is about to be released , abedi, is about to be released, despite the parole board saying that he was still a risk. on my panel tonight, it's the columnist and broadcaster esther cracker who got the director for the centre of migration and economic prosperity, stephen wolf, and the political commentatorjonathan lis. get ready britain here we go . ready britain here we go. get ready for a load more refugees from the middle east . next. >> good evening. the top stories at just after 9:00. now, the prime minister says iran has menaced the middle east for far too long as he condemns this evening's missile attack on israel. sir keir starmer said he was deeply concerned that the region is on the brink and for the risk of miscalculation. iran

launched around 200 missiles, but a significant number were actually intercepted by israel's iron dome. an israeli military spokesperson says he is not aware of any injuries from the iranian missile attack. in other news, the conservative leadership hopefuls robert jenrick and james cleverly have hit out at nigel farage's reform uk party. mrjenrick has suggested the party's popularity is down to tory failure and broken promises, and james cleverly ruled out a deal with to farage win back voters. the candidates were speaking on stage earlier today at the conservative party conference. >> i think it's a symptom, not a cause.it >> i think it's a symptom, not a cause. it exists in its current state because we failed and by that i don't mean you, the members of the party. i mean we in westminster. >> we need to demonstrate that we are a proper conservative party because reform is a pale imitation of us. we don't need to be a pale imitation of them . to be a pale imitation of them. >> a 14 year old girl has been left with potentially life

changing injuries after a suspected acid attack outside a school in west london. a boy aged 16 and a 27 year old woman were also injured after the substance , believed to be substance, believed to be acidic, was thrown at the victims outside westminster academy yesterday afternoon. police believe the teenagers were approached by a lone suspect who was on an e—scooter, with a member of staff left injured after she rushed to help. the suspect is described as a tall , slim black male as a tall, slim black male wearing dark clothing with his face obscured, possibly by a mask or balaclava, and theatres across the country dimmed their lights earlier this evening to honour the legacy of dame maggie smith, the star of stage and screen who died in hospital on friday morning aged 89. dame maggie had multiple olivier award wins, having appeared in the national theatre's debut season in 1963, with tributes from the world of theatre remembering her greatness on the stage . and finally, buckingham stage. and finally, buckingham palace has announced her royal highness princess beatrice and

her husband edoardo mapelli mozzi are expecting their second child together, due in the early spring. the new arrival will be the sibling for the couple's daughter sienna, and the princess's stepson wolfie . the princess's stepson wolfie. the king has been informed and both families are delighted with the news. well, those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm cameron walker. more in an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> good evening and welcome to patrick christys. tonight and tonight the world holds its breath .

breath. iran has bombarded israel with missiles, many piercing the iron dome. it came shortly after this law was know at the island shortly. after a mass shooting in tel aviv leaves at least eight people dead. many others injured. but concerningly. there is also this, but also at home. >> we need to take note of what is happening. over the last 24 hours, hezbollah have said that they are now considering launching international terror cells around the world to harm friends of israel. that does mean the uk, the home office, is to make sure that we are making sure that what is taking place in the middle east does not cause blood on our streets are iranian backed terrorist sleeper cells about to attack us here in britain and other countries around the west supporting israel to kick us off tonight, i am taking us live to the epicentre of what, frankly, could prove to be the start of

world war three. >> i'm joined by the information warfare analyst hal hagan, who is in tel aviv. tal, thank you very much. i understand that you are now out of the bunker. very much. i understand that you are now out of the bunker . and are now out of the bunker. and could you just describe to us, please, the moment that you were told about these missiles? >> yeah. so, because a part of my work as an information analyst is to essentially review mis and disinformation that comes online constantly. i've been following the reports for the past few days with slowly realising that there were sources that were becoming a lot more legitimate in terms of concerns for what was going to happen. a few hours before we got the actual official alerts that there was going to be an impending ballistic missile attack from iran, we started to see much more reliable sources. suddenly, the idf changed its tone from commands that now everybody who was around major cities like haifa, jerusalem and tel aviv had to get near bomb shelters. we saw that iran was suddenly making a lot more, straightforward threats. and we also saw sources high up in different governments, all reporting at the exact same time

that the americans were warning about an impending attack. and these are the types of sources that we look out for, not for random unnamed sources from random unnamed sources from random anonymous accounts and once that happened, i told the people around me, it looks like we're we're going to be seeing the retaliation strikes from iran tonight. and then shortly afterwards, we got alerts directly to our phone from the government telling us to get into shelter. and a few minutes after that, the sirens went off. >> yeah, exactly. now, a lot of people very concerned, as indeed i was looking at social media to see that the iron dome was pierced. as yet it appears that nobody has been killed in israel. as far as we're aware anyway. do you think that the mood amongst the vast majority of israelis is that they want serious repercussions to this? >> i think before we can talk about repercussions or how they're going to react, we need to first understand what actually occurred, we need to first remember that when we're viewing for example, a lot of these missiles striking obviously a lot more damage was caused in this retaliatory

strike by iran. then on april 14th, a few months ago , when 14th, a few months ago, when they conducted a different type of retaliatory strike, were much less damage was caused. but it's hard for us to know whether or not we're seeing, for example, the a part of the ballistic missile that has been blown up hitting the ground is are they hitting the ground is are they hitting a military target? are they hitting a civilian target , they hitting a civilian target, were there actually people that were there actually people that were killed? but simply the authorities haven't been contacted yet, and i think it will take a while, probably another day. you know , once the another day. you know, once the sun rises and people start going out with their phone cameras and taking photos of the damage, as well as analysts like myself who will be looking at satellite imagery and actually being able to pinpoint where we can see the differences in the damage. and only then i think that once the israeli public and i think the more general world governments who are looking at the situation will have a better picture as to what actually occurred. and then i think it'll be a proper assessment to look at how the israeli public will react. okay. of course, we already see that the israeli government is going to react to that .

to react to that. >> yeah, i know 100%. look, tal, thank you very much. i'm very glad that you're safe. and thank you for taking the time to talk to us from tel aviv today. great to us from tel aviv today. great to have you there on the ground. ihope to have you there on the ground. i hope to talk to you again very, very soon. right. let's just bring this back home, okay? because i want to talk to gb news home security editor, mark white. mark i am concerned. i know a lot of people are concerned about what this means here for us in britain. now, we've heard rumours there. and one former tory mp, alicia kearns, was talking about it as well, about the idea of iranian backed terrorist sleeper cells here in britain being told to coordinate some, some kind of attack. how worried about this should we be given what's going on in the middle east? >> well, there's lots of issues around this becoming a wider regional war in the middle east that should worry people back home in the uk. terrorism, of course, is one element of that. and we know that the police and security services have been concerned for some time with regard to the situation in gaza . regard to the situation in gaza. we have seen a terrorist attack here in the uk, in hartlepool,

in which an elderly gentleman was murdered by a terrorist who was murdered by a terrorist who was acting out of, revenge, he said , for what was going on in said, for what was going on in gaza at that time. we've seen attacks in france and in germany in recent weeks, all linking back to gaza as well. so we should be very concerned when hezbollah is indicating that terror cells around the west could be activated to go after potentially israeli or jewish targets, but maybe uk citizens as well. but it's not just that the terror threat that should concern people here. there is the issue of what that does for our cost of living in the uk. we are seeing again today a civilian cargo ship targeted in the red sea by another one of iran's proxies, the houthis , iran's proxies, the houthis, firing missiles and striking

that ship . so many ships now are that ship. so many ships now are not using the suez canal and taking a much longer route around africa, which adds many thousands of pounds to the cost of transiting these vital stocks that come to western countries , that come to western countries, including including the uk, that has inflationary pressures. we are seeing the oil price already. it surged by 4% this evening after these attacks as well. it will impact us here. it's a faraway war. yes, in terms of its geography, but it will be felt very significantly here in the west 100% mark. >> absolutely. look, you raised some great points there . i know some great points there. i know i'm incredibly concerned about domestic terrorism as a result of this. also the idea now that our labour government is monumentally split over israel and the middle east society, our multicultural society is split on it as well. we've already had incidences of people walking through the streets of london

every other saturday, sometimes waving what appeared to be terrorist flags. you've mentioned the oil and gas prices there. well why can't we start drilling for more oil in our seas here and try to mitigate that? that's not going to happen. does that put us in mercy? is that but but our our prime minister keir starmer has actually spoken on this tonight. i believe we can just play a little clip of that and then i'll get you to summarise it. mark. okay. >> but i utterly condemn this attempt by the iranian regime to harm innocent israelis, to escalate this incredibly dangerous situation and push the region ever closer to the brink . region ever closer to the brink. it cannot be tolerated . we stand it cannot be tolerated. we stand with israel and we recognise her right to self—defence in the face of this aggression. iran must stop these attacks together with its proxies like hezbollah . with its proxies like hezbollah. >> yeah, fine. but, mark, you know, iran doesn't fear any reprisals. you've got joe biden, who arguably doesn't doesn't

know what day of the week it is in the white house. and you've got keir starmer there, who the foreign secretary has just withdrawn some funding for for, arms here. i mean, we're incredibly weak on on iran etc, aren't we? i mean, would would this have happened if starmer hadnt this have happened if starmer hadn't have been so soft ? hadn't have been so soft? >> well, certainly there's some real concern in israel about the stance that the labour government has taken cancer counselling. some of those arms sales to israel being one of the most worrying issues, and also some of the rhetoric that they are seeing from the likes of our foreign secretary, david lammy, but in terms of what the british government involvement this evening has been, well, the prime minister is not prepared to go there just yet. he says that they are still trying to assess what the, the, the military situation on the ground was and what our involvement might have been. we can reveal that raf typhoons and a

refuelling tanker aircraft was up over the region and of course, back in april when there were, iranian missile strikes on israel , the uk did play a part israel, the uk did play a part in downing a number of those missiles. we know that the americans have taken part in the operation. this evening, downed a significant number of the missiles heading for israel, but as yet we do not know what, if any, involvement the uk had. >> mark, look, thank you very much. i'm going to talk to you again, hopefully at the top of the next hour. israel have said that they will respond. so if there's any update, we'll bring it to you. that's our home security editor, mark white. i'm going to whizz on over to the panel here, because there's a question that i think we're all going to be having to answer very, very soon in the coming weeks and months. i'm joined, of course, by esther krakue, stephen wolff and jonathan liz, stephen, i'll start with you as this escalates as it inevitably will, do you think we're going to be asked to take in a load more refugees from the middle east? >> well, i think we have already

got a substantial number of refugees that are coming across from different parts of the world. we have we saw what happened with syria, where we had roughly around 3 to 4 million people left that country, and across different places. i wouldn't be surprised if we start to see particularly the pressure in lebanon for people to try and escape from there. i wouldn't be surprised if those in syria start to get worried again, because if israel starts to go up and we see this escalate, as i anticipate it will, i think this is part of a long term plan to get iran and to also nullify syria. i think there will be an expansion, whether it will be this week or whether it will be this week or whether it will be this week or whether it will be over the next coming weeks, i think so, but as a consequence of that, whenever you get human tragedy in this level, we see people fleeing. so i suspect we will get people coming here. >> how do you feel about that? because i think that the british pubuc because i think that the british public not all, of course, but quite a lot of them are frankly at their wits end with the amount of humanitarian work we do in terms of taking people be

it legal or illegal. >> yeah, i mean, that's obviously a concern. the idea that we would see an influx potentially , of migrants or potentially, of migrants or refugees from this part of the world, particularly on the question about the values and whether, you know, there's a higher risk of extremism and radicalisation. but i think the bigger threat really is radicalisation here at home. so not necessarily sleeper cells , not necessarily sleeper cells, because i don't think, you know, hezbollah has the sophistication to have hundreds of sleeper cells. but it doesn't really take sleeper cells. it takes one madman who's willing to risk their lives. and the lives of other people to terrorise the public. that's the definition of terrorism. and i think that's what concerns me, because whenever you have situations like this and people feel very, very strongly one way or another about the situation in israel and the middle east more broadly, you know, the questions of people within, particularly across many western cities that really feel an allegiance to what's going on there and, and are willing to make a statement against the lives of the people that they live with in the country that they're residing in. that's what concerns me. it doesn't really take, you know, hundreds of people in sleeper

cells with the sophistication of a of a modern military to, to really wreak havoc. it just takes 1 or 2 people acid attacks on school, children's, you know, bombing concerts, you know , bombing concerts, you know, taking a gun and shooting people in a supermarket. i mean, the ideas are are endless. yeah, absolutely. >> and jonathan, just on that, i mean, how concerned should we be? it seems like in this fabulous multicultural country that we live in now, actually, sometimes that means that you have a lot of people who are potentially quite sympathetic sometimes to groups like hezbollah. >> i presume you're being sarcastic when you talk about fabulous multicultural country that we have. >> well, sometimes when i think it means that we have things like we've seen on the streets, like we've seen on the streets, like people, you know, with terrorist flags, etc. yeah. >> what terrorist flags are you talking about? >> yeah . so we actually have >> yeah. so we actually have clips of them that we're going to play later on at 10:00 pm, where people during some of these marches will have the hizb ut—tahrir flag and the flag of islamic state, etc. >> well, obviously i would oppose that, if there is a proscribed organisation , people proscribed organisation, people shouldn't be flying the flags. but i'm slightly puzzled by the

angle you're taking on this. if there's an urgent humanitarian catastrophe , i don't think it catastrophe, i don't think it reflects very well on us to the first. the first question we ask is what does that mean about people who are demonstrably fleeing desperate situations? what how could they possibly what if they what if they dare to come and ask for help from us? i mean, it's not a very sort of charitable response, is it? the first thing we need to worry about is, first of all, that people are not being killed in their thousands, which fortunately israel has the capacity to stave off attacks. the people of lebanon are far less fortunate. and what we're seeing in lebanon is hundreds, thousands, potentially in the next few weeks of people who have nothing to do with hezbollah but who are unfortunate enough to be in the vicinity of potential hezbollah fighters who are going to lose. >> i wonder if it's that security concern, really, that i'm trying to get at here. i know we're going to talk about it a little bit later on in the show, and potentially tie that in a bit to some of the comments that kemi badenoch made as well. but about whether or not we actually will have any idea when it comes to this notion, if israel do decide to plough on

into lebanon, which seems quite likely and seems like i mean, almost, almost definite now there's going to be a humanitarian risk there. there's going to be people who say, can we come to britain? we may well say, yes. do we know who those all those people are? you know, this is a difficult situation for us, isn't it? >> well, we didn't know who they were when they were leaving syria. to be fair, we didn't really know who they were when they were leaving ukraine ehhen they were leaving ukraine either, which is why we knew that our own security services were monitoring those so that we didn't have, in that case, russian sleeper cells. jonathan is right in the sense that we do have to be aware now that this actually falls fully under the un convention on refugees. it's this is exactly the same sort of concerns that we would have. and if we are going to look at expanding a war across the middle east, which i think that we're going to see, then all the european countries are going to have to be aware of the numbers coming through. but you're right in the sense that we won't know accurately how everybody who everybody is, what their intentions will be. and we do know that small numbers of them will start causing big,

problematic issues , just as we problematic issues, just as we saw in my hometown of manchester. and i do not want that to happen. >> but the reason why i'm going to pause this now is because we're going to return to a similar topic a little bit later on with you all, and we're going to have another panel chat on that, because that i think is a is a massive story. and on that look, still to come in the next houn look, still to come in the next hour, what's not all cultures are equally valid cultures that believe in child marriage, for instance, or that women don't have equal rights. so tory leadership hopeful kemi badenoch has claimed that some cultures are less valid than others. is she right on that? yeah, that's the topic that my panel are going to be thrashing out in the next few minutes. but up next, tory leadership hopeful, another one robert jenrick, has been slammed for claiming that britain's membership of the echr could would have stopped us killing the next bin laden. look, i think he's got a point, though, hasn't he? isn't the echr actually making britain less safe? have a look at some of the people who we've been forced to keep as a result of the echr going head to head on that former ukip leader, henry bolton, and the human rights lawyer shoaib stay tuned.

this is patrick christys. tonight we are only on gb news. now is the echr making us all less safe? it's time for the head to head . well, after tory head to head. well, after tory leadership hopeful kemi badenoch was criticised yesterday for her comments about maternity pay,

today it was the turn of her rival robert jenrick, who was unden rival robert jenrick, who was under, in my view , unfair under, in my view, unfair criticism for claiming that the sza quotes not killing, sorry are killing and not capturing to prevent the echr judges from setting terror suspects free. speaking to gb news political editor christopher hope , robert editor christopher hope, robert jenrick defended his comments. >> i don't want our human rights apparatus to be standing in the way of taking the right operational decisions for our national security and for protecting the lives of the brave men and women who serve in our special forces. >> there's all this confected outrage here now about what he's had to say. let's have a look at the receipts, shall we? back in september 2023, the former defence secretary, ben wallace , defence secretary, ben wallace, said the exact same thing. he said the exact same thing. he said that human rights laws, including the echr, have become a serious risk to national security. the thwarting efforts to stop terrorists in fact, the european courts have been meddling in britain's national security for years. back in 2012, echr judges stopped the uk

government from sending radical cleric abu qatada back to jordan. in 2011, the court ruled that the uk could not deport a nigerian man convicted of rape, and just this month, a ugandan man who beat a man to death in london escaped deportation because his lawyers successfully argued that deporting him would breach the echr. so we now all have to live amongst these people. don't we, because of the echr. so tonight i'm asking is that making britain less safe? going head to head on this now the former ukip leader henry bolton, and human rights lawyer shoaib khan , both of you. thank shoaib khan, both of you. thank you very much. great to see you again, henry. i'll start with you. is the echr making it more difficult for us to deport terrorists? >> yes , absolutely, >> yes, absolutely, >> yes, absolutely, >> there is no question of that, >> there is no question of that, >> there is no question of that, >> the echr requires a whole range of legal, hoops that have to be jumped through in order to deport anybody who wants to resist that deportation. >> so, appeals, processes and so on.and >> so, appeals, processes and so on. and there are also a whole

range of, of precedents. there's precedent law. and so on. it's a complex piece, but ultimately the echr is designed to protect human rights, including of the offender, now where we've got a problem is where the human rights of the offender clash with the national security and safety interests of the citizens of the country concerned, which is the problem we have here now in terms of what robert said, i don't think he actually mentioned the sas . correct me if mentioned the sas. correct me if i'm wrong. he mentioned special forces, but i was when i was in afghanistan, i was involved sitting alongside the general officer commanding who was responsible for making the operational go no go decisions on targeting what we called high value individuals. now i'm not going to talk about much of the mechanics there, but suffice to say there were a couple of different nations, 3 or 4 different nations, 3 or 4 different nations, 3 or 4 different nations represented in that group of about 30 officers who were briefing on

intelligence, operational opfions intelligence, operational options and so on for attacking people who were in the command and control chain of people who wanted to do our people harm. and there was legal advice provided to british commanders , provided to british commanders, other united states commanders and others . and they varied and others. and they varied because different countries were under different constraints. and the united kingdom and the european forces were under tighter constraints because of the echr. there we go. the americans were. >> i'll come back to you. i'll come back to you. so on that point exactly, though, you've heard it straight from the horse's mouth that chap in afghanistan seen it firsthand. we are under tighter constraints because of the echr. we need to leave it. do we? >> i know, i mean, we may well be under tighter constraints, but good for us. that's good. that's the whole point. we need to jump through hoops. if you're going to kill someone, capture someone, you know, i mean, we're basically talking about rendering someone across borders, you know, go to afghanistan, iran, iraq , any afghanistan, iran, iraq, any country. just pick up someone, put them in a plane, bring them to britain, then you should jump

through hoops. it shouldn't be a matter of, well, that's what the officer or the soldier decided at the time. no, you have to justify it. and that's what the echr says. and it's surprising you know, after everything that happenedin you know, after everything that happened in iran, iraq, our forces, american forces, the way they treated prisoners, are we still having this conversation? how are we still having the conversation ? of course, you conversation? of course, you should have to jump through hoops. the point is, and that's exactly what the echr says. you have to balance it. i mean, like henry was just saying, it says, yes, you have to balance their rights with theirs. and there's always exceptions for national security, if you can, if you can demonstrate it was essential or important for national security , important for national security, then that's fine. and also, i mean, just really quickly on jenrick's point , generally, jenrick's point, generally, i think, i mean, to be honest, i mean, i was about to say i'm not sure quite, you know, what he was saying, but to be honest, i don't think even he knew what he was saying. on the one hand, he's saying, you know, we're not allowed to capture people. that's why we have to kill them. on the other hand, well, if we carried out an operation on bin laden, we would not have been allowed to kill him. we'd have to capture him. so i'm not quite sure what you're saying. >> yeah. okay. all right. i think there's other aspects to

this, though, henry, aren't there? you know, when it comes to national safety, terrorists are one thing, all right? but, you know, a nigerian rapist, we can't deport them. we've got a ugandan murderer. we can't deport him. we want to. but then a foreign court tells us that we can't, and we stick to that. surely that's wrong. >> yeah, i believe it is wrong. i think we should have a sovereign. our government should have a sovereign right and ability to take the decision decisions it needs to keep british citizens, particularly at home, but also abroad, safe and secure. and if an individual threatens that, then i'm sorry his rights or her rights come . his rights or her rights come. they're subordinate to the rights of the british citizens in the uk. to be safe. rights of the british citizens in the uk. to be safe . and, you in the uk. to be safe. and, you know, we've got a problem here. and you know, the echr sadly has got, i think, 47 is it signatories. and to open it up for, for, for change and amendment would be diplomatically impossible. i mean it would take many, many

years and we haven't got years. we've got people here now who are constituting a threat. >> i get that the sense of urgency show, but i want to throw this over to you because, look, i think if people felt as though that the echr was a completely objective body, like i would argue it's supposed to be an arbitrator of the law, then maybe we'd be inclined to accept it. but, you know, i look at in april 2024, european court of human rights ruled that the swiss government's climate policies violated human rights. they sided with a bunch of swiss geriatrics because they felt as though the country wasn't going far enough when it came to tackling climate change, many people felt that that was an overtly political decision, the kind of decision that the likes of greta thunberg would have made. so is this not actually very much a political court? are we just seeing now here kind of activists in robes telling us who we can and can't keep in our country? >> no, of course not. i mean, firstly, i mean just a few of the cases that we spoke about and firstly, even generally robert jenrick studio e, i think

he mentioned 3 or 4 cases, three of them, as far as i know, aren't even european court cases. they're actually domestic uk court cases. so i mean, that's the first thing. but secondly, we talked we spoke about abu qatada. the whole point was you have to do things properly. that's why eventually he was when we renegotiated our treaty with jordan, theresa may actually deported him and properly . and that's the point. properly. and that's the point. you know, the jordanians had evidence that they had obtained by torture. the echr said you shouldn't be using torture evidence. the jordans finally promised jordanians promised not to use it. so we deported him. and in fact, we actually helped to reform the jordanian prison system because now they don't use torture evidence. so of course that's a good thing. same with like for instance, we saw with like for instance, we saw with rwanda. the point is, that was a disastrous treaty that priti patel had signed, and then eventually even our supreme court said, that's absolutely awful. go and look at it again. and we negotiated with rwanda and then eventually the parliament said, yes, now it's an awful. yeah. >> i mean, it was it was so awful. it was so awful that the germans are possibly now going to do the exact same thing with the facilities of the british taxpayer. is as well. we'll have

we'll have to wait and see. i'm afraid so. or both of you. thank you.thank afraid so. or both of you. thank you. thank you very much. good stuff as ever. former ukip leader henry bolton and the human rights lawyer shoaib khan. great. thank you very much. coming up, phillip schofield's made his tv comeback. and can you believe this? he has played the pity card. it was an unwise and unprofessional thing to do . and unprofessional thing to do. >> i'm be forever sorry. >> i'm be forever sorry. >> yeah. so does anyone actually really feel sorry for him? that's what i'll be asking . the that's what i'll be asking. the crisis manager and experienced pr expert edward karam. james, when he joins me very soon, but yes, we are also going to be doing a heck of a lot of talking about what on earth is going on here in britain. kemi badenoch picked up, she said that some cultures are less valid than others, so we're going to be talking about all of that. i'm also going to be talking a lot as well, about what the domestic terror threat is like here. why? well, the person who is believed to have radicalised the

manchester arena bomber is about to walk free, despite the parole board saying that he still poses what is going on with all this madness,

welcome back to patrick christys welcome back to patrick christys tonight . now tonight . now welcome back to patrick christys welcome back to patrick christys tonight. now coming up, phillip schofield, believe it or not, tonight. now coming up, phillip schofield, believe it or not, appears to be playing the pity appears to be playing the pity card. i'll show you some clips i card. i'll show you some clips i think will turn your stomach. think will turn your stomach. but first, not all cultures are but first, not all cultures are

equally valid when it equally valid when it comes to immigration and failing to recognise that is naive. that is according to the tory leadership hopeful kemi badenoch, writing over the weekend in the sunday telegraph, badenoch, said we cannot be naive and assume that immigrants will automatically abandon oh, here we go . ethnic abandon oh, here we go. ethnic hostilities at the border or that all cultures are equally valid . they are not. i am valid. they are not. i am struck, for example, by the number of recent immigrants to

equally valid. >> yeah. i mean, what's controversial about that child marriage, fgm, throwing gay people off buildings? i don't think they're valid, are they? >> i mean, i think i share her sentiments here. i think it's incredible that people feel offended about that. you know, culture in germany in the 1930s wasn't valid when it sort of terrorising jewish people. i mean, it's obvious that cultures evolve and hopefully for the better . you rarely see cultures better. you rarely see cultures trying to regress and going back to the days of like child sacrifice, for example. but i think, i think the, the, the fact that the optics of that was quite interesting that you have this black british woman explaining that to a white female journalist and on some level you were thinking, okay, if i were, if i was in issues, you're a woman. there are some cultures that would have forced you to get married at 15. is that a culture that you would think is valid? i mean, i think the optics of that was quite interesting because you wouldn't expect for her to ask such a naive question, like, what do you mean by that? >> that speaks a lot to the psychology, actually, of a lot of the kind of chattering media

classes sort of thing. you're pulling a face. what's going on? >> which culture throws gay people off buildings? patrick? >> well, we see it, don't we, in parts of the middle east culture does that because. >> no. okay. it's a really important point. >> i can tell you a really important point, because a political party or a regime is not the same as a culture, a point there, but i am making a point there, but i am making a point where fine, but but we talk. >> we talk about the culture. you talk about it in football clubs. what's the culture like in the dressing room or in workplaces? what's the culture in the workplace? which doesn't necessarily mean a race of people. it means a culture or a set of norms in that particular. >> so fine. so for that reason, you could say that a leader, a commander from isis, should not be allowed to come to britain. if that's the point that you're making. i completely agree with you. fine. that's the point . but you. fine. that's the point. but that's not the point that she was making. and you know it perfectly well. she was saying that some cultures she was saying that some cultures are better than others. and what she's read, that's true. she's really doing is sticking the boot into people. the easy targets, the low hanging fruit for the conservative right. such as muslim people such as cultures that she thinks are.

and what is it? what does it actually mean? if we look at the vast if you look at the vast, the vast, it's very clear what it means. >> if you look across history, where you can look at the incas, the incas had a culture that was clearly brutal. stephen, let's fine. >> let's look at history. >> let's look at history. >> if you look. yes. and you can go through our own culture. what you've got here is a cultural view of the liberal media, as shown by their interviewer, that it says and believes that all people are exactly the same wherever they are in the world, irrespective. >> no one is saying that people are the way you live. >> no one is saying the people are the same. >> the point is, in some cultures you do recognise that life is different. if you go to afghanistan, that is a country run by a leadership, but it's got a culture, and in that culture they do. women can't show their faces very, very acceptable. do you accept that thatis acceptable. do you accept that that is a culture in afghanistan, or are you just simply saying it's a lord dannatt? >> if you look at afghanistan, you will find that there are all kinds of people in that culture who hate the taliban and who want equal rights for women in all kinds of things. it is such. it is such an imperialist

attitude to say, well , those attitude to say, well, those values are inferior to ours, and obviously we need to go and save them. we need to go and say, no, it's not. and look, if you look at the vast, if you look at the vast majority, look at the vast majority of british situation, you look at the vast majority of british history, you will find that child marriage was completely normalised , that gay completely normalised, that gay people were completely vilified. the women didn't have equal rights. how did that become so when so what? how do we decide what british values are? what british culture is, where the vast majority of british history, those have been our values as well. >> but what you're saying, jonathan, they're looking at history is actually reversal of what your initial point is. you're accepting that there were some cultures that had bad issues in them, although it was britain in the past, a reverse colonialism, by saying that it doesn't. it's not there. how is that the reverse? >> how is that the reverse? >> how is that the reverse? >> you're not because you're not saying it accepts across the world this idea, this idea that there are people, there are some people in afghanistan that don't agree with the taliban. >> and therefore the idea that the statement that that culture, the statement that that culture, the predominant culture is invalid is ridiculous. are we supposed to pick out and cherry

pick? and how do we know when someone has changed their views legitimately? are we supposed to take the risk? the bottom line here is a culture is a set of values and ideas that that is normalised within a certain group of people . yes, you always group of people. yes, you always have people that that don't necessarily agree with it because of how it affects them, or they just stand out, but that or they just stand out, but that does not that does not negate does not that does not negate the fact that you have such a the fact that you have such a thing as a culture, a thing as a culture, a predominant culture. and i'll predominant culture. and i'll give you an example. i grew up give you an example. i grew up in a culture where i basically in a culture where i basically didn't even talk about didn't even talk about homosexuality until i was 14, homosexuality until i was 14, and i moved here. they didn't and i moved here. they didn't even want to speak about it to even want to speak about it to me, because they were so scared me, because they were so scared that if you talk about it, that if you talk about it, you'll make children curious, you'll make children curious, and then they'll somehow become and then they'll somehow become become gay themselves. that is a become gay themselves. that is a culture, right? i could have culture, right? i could have members of my own family that members of my own family that didn't agree with it, but that didn't agree with it, but that is a culture that i grew up in. is a culture that i grew up in. now you can say that i now you can say that i personally didn't agree with it. personally didn't agree with it. i didn't even have i didn't even i didn't even have i didn't even ever talk about it or think ever talk about it or think about it. but that was the about it. but that was the culture within which i grew up. culture within which i grew up. now, if you have people, 20 now, if you have people, 20 people from that culture and people from that culture and bnng people from that culture and bring them to britain and they bnng people from that culture and bring them to britain and they say, well, the culture that i say, well, the culture that i grew up in is i don't even grew up in is i don't even recognise gay rights. don't you recognise gay rights. don't you think that would necessarily think that would necessarily affect people in this country that say, actually, you can't affect people in this country that say, actually, you can't

come here stand out, but that come here with those attitudes because that is not part of our culture. that's what's being said here. >> i don't think that you can say that people should not be allowed to come here. i think that it's i do think you should. >> well, okay. >> well, okay. >> well, okay. >> well, i'm disagreeing with you and i'm saying that people i don't think that you should essentialize culture and say this is awhen, when you when

anyone. when, when you when a crime is committed by a white christian person, that's a reflection on them. it's not a reflection on them. it's not a reflection on them. it's not a reflection on white people or christian people disagreeing with skinheads. >> look at literally what happened with the riots recently. all of a sudden, everybody seems to have white privilege. >> yeah, yeah. no white skinheads. i've seen this since the 80s. >> we're gonna have to. we're gonna have to whiz this on. i'm afraid we're massively over running here. yeah, we're going to be talking a bit about obviously, what's been going on in iran and israel. crucially . in iran and israel. crucially. yeah, i'm going to be talking about whether or not keir starmer is actually the right man to steer britain through this crisis. talk now as well, of hezbollah sleeper cells here in britain. what is the level of threat? but next phillip schofield made his tv comeback. he's played the peta card. >> it was an unwise and unprofessional thing to do . i'm unprofessional thing to do. i'm will be forever sorry . will be forever sorry. >> well, i've got a crisis

manager on shortly. do you feel sorry for phillip schofield?

welcome back. now last night phillip schofield's tv comeback aired on channel five as he was cast away on a madagascan desert island to reflect on his departure from showbiz last year after it emerged he lied and later admitted to an affair with a younger employee at itv . a younger employee at itv. schofield had much to say now. he started with, well, a bit of an apology. >> it is like the biggest grenade going off in your life and you know , you let people and you know, you let people down, you know you've let yourself down, and you know that , yourself down, and you know that, yourself down, and you know that, you know, it's it was an unwise and unprofessional thing to do. >> i reportedly goes on to talk about you know, feeling like he

was thrown under the bus by holly willoughby, saying that, you know, he feels as though he was sacked because actually his brother was found to have been a. et cetera. all of that stuff. but does anyone actually really feel sorry for him? live from los angeles, pr guru, ceo of go up los angeles, pr guru, ceo of go up edward james. edward, thank you very much. great to have you on the show. does anyone actually feel sorry for schofield's petty card here? >> well, if they don't, they should, >> i think it's very, very easy from a position of someone watching television to forget that these are human beings and quite often quite fragile human beings at that. >> but, what schofield has been through in the last year is, by all accounts , probably one of all accounts, probably one of the worst things, mentally, that a human being can put another human being through the level of media assassination has been absolutely extraordinary. and if you're a human being and everywhere you look, you are seeing tens of thousands of

negative beyond negative press pieces, media interviews, social media posts about you, it pushes people to the absolute. >> edward can i just put you in there? he's made millions off being in the public eye. he's made millions of opening himself up to being in people's living rooms every single day. and he's done very, very well out of it. and unfortunately for phillip schofield, there are consequences to that. if it all goes wrong, it means that the blow up is very public and i'm afraid that's what you get if you behave in the way he did. now >> no, that's not what you get. that's what you get in a broken society, if people behave in a particular way that you don't approve of . again, not to go approve of. again, not to go back to his talking cards, and i have no personal interest in phil schofield whatsoever . but phil schofield whatsoever. but the thing that we have found extraordinary within our community of crisis managers is we're very much scratching our heads and looking for what it is that people think that he did wrong. >> well, we know what people think. he did wrong. come on. >> well, no, we know the worst

of people's imaginations about what happened . but we also know what happened. but we also know that there was a consensual affair between two consenting adults. we know that there's a big age difference. well guess what? that's very common. winston churchill was having an affair with someone 30 years younger than him. i've been looking at some stats right now. you know, 17 years difference between george clooney and amal clooney , 30 years difference clooney, 30 years difference between rufus sewell and his wife. 26 years between leonardo dicaprio and his girlfriend. >> so when did leonardo dicaprio meet his girlfriend, though? >> you know, yes, but you're making a massive inference there that there was something nefarious about that meeting. you're letting your imagination run wild when actually you have noidea run wild when actually you have no idea about the circumstances of what happened in between the penod of what happened in between the period when they met and when they had the affair. it may well be of course, that there's something nefarious that went on, but it also could be completely harmless. and there has been no allegation that it was anything other than harmless. no victim has stood up and said, i'm a victim here. there was predatory behaviour . there was predatory behaviour. there was predatory behaviour. there was predatory behaviour. there was a very thorough inquiry by a very senior kc that

looked for predatory behaviour and didn't find any. there's no pattern of behaviour. there are no other alleged victims coming out of the woodwork saying he has done this to me , he's done has done this to me, he's done this to me. and so we have made a massive assumption about a society and as a society. and that assumption has led to the absolute destruction of a man. and either we believe in the presumption of innocence or we don't. and i think that's something that as a society, we need to really think long and hard about. is it mob justice or is there actual justice because this isn't justice. >> all right. okay look, fantastic. can i also compliment you on probably the best background that i have seen in in years of working @gbnews. fantastic stuff. thank you very much. edward jones there. who is the ceo of go up? he's a pr guru, crisis manager. to be fair, i think we can all disagree, maybe with what he's had to say there about phillip schofield. but i think if we were all in a personal crisis, he probably would go to that guy because he could put you could put your side of it up quite well, couldn't he? but anyway,

with the middle east on the bnnk with the middle east on the brink of all out war, where is keir starmer? the right man to steer britain through this crisis? i'm going to tackle that. and i'm also, crucially, going to be taking to task the question of whether or not we have allowed sleeper cells from the likes of iran and hezbollah here into the uk and what that means for us now, because apparently they are being instructed to actually go on the offensive . so are we now less offensive. so are we now less safe because of decisions we've made at the border? stay tuned . made at the border? stay tuned. >> despite the morning rain, it'll be a nice, warm, cosy day ahead. boxed heat pumps, sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hi there and welcome to the latest forecast from the met office for gb news drier. for many of us over the next 24 hours, clearest in the north, but elsewhere there will be still some cloud and some showers, especially across eastern and southeastern parts of england, as the area of low pressure responsible for all the

rain over the last few days, slowly pulls away as it pulls away. we've got this cold wind coming in from the north sea to affect eastern parts of england, affect eastern parts of england, a lot of low cloud for the north and east of england, as well as the midlands, parts of east wales. and with that low cloud, some showery , drizzly rain at some showery, drizzly rain at times. but in the far west and certainly across scotland and northern ireland, we've got clear skies and a chilly start to wednesday, but that's where the best of the sunshine will be. northern ireland, much of scotland, blue skies from the word go and having seen a few showers in the north—east of scotland during tuesday, it's a dner scotland during tuesday, it's a drier spell on wednesday and thursday here, with mostly just sunny spells and western scotland barely a cloud in sight. first thing 1 or 2 mist patches for northern ireland, otherwise largely fine. however, as we get into england and wales here we've got more extensive cloud cover and the rain that we started the week with. well that's turned to showers. nevertheless, through the wash parts of norfolk, suffolk, perhaps kent will see quite a

number of showers continuing through the day , along with through the day, along with a brisk northeast breeze and a lot of cloud that's going to make it feel considerably cooler than elsewhere across the uk. so low to mid teens on the east coast where we've got some sunny spells elsewhere. 15 to 17 celsius we start thursday with widespread clear skies. still 1 or 2 showers through the day across the far southeast , but across the far southeast, but otherwise for many, it's simply a sunny day . best day of the a sunny day. best day of the week widely across the uk and feeling pleasant enough in that sunshine with light winds as well . friday starts off on well. friday starts off on a similar note, but there will be some rain in the far west later, and an unsettled weekend to come. >> expect a warm front moving from the kitchen right through to the rest of the house. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on

gb news. >> it's 10 pm. on patrick christys tonight, but also at home. >> we need to take note of what is happening over the last 24 hours, hezbollah have said that they are now considering launching international terror cells around the world to harm friends of israel. >> our iranian sleeper cells in britain are preparing to attack us on the streets . us on the streets. >> make no mistake, britain stands full square against such violence . we support israel's violence. we support israel's reasonable demand for the security of its people . security of its people. >> well, keir starmer's labour party is totally split on israel and our multicultural society is split as well. are we in real trouble? >> also tonight, our continued membership of the european convention on human rights is making it impossible for us to deport terrorists who are here walking our streets to remove dangerous foreign criminals like rapists and murderers and, who we need to get out of our country to protect the public. >> well, after robert jenrick said that we couldn't deport

terrorists, well, it turns out that we can't lock them up ehhen that we can't lock them up either, because the man who radicalised the manchester arena bomber is going to be released. i've got all of tomorrow's newspaper front pages tonight with my wonderful panel columnist and broadcaster esther krakue, the director of the centre of migration and economic prosperity, stephen wolf, and the journalist jonathan lewis. oh, and what do you think that the peace loving people of gaza are celebrating here? oh get ready britain. here we go . ready britain. here we go. it's a terrorist trojan horse about to attack us here in britain. next. >> good evening. the top stories . >> good evening. the top stories. at 10:01, the prime minister says iran has menaced the middle

east for far too long as he condemns this evening's missile attack on israel . sir keir attack on israel. sir keir starmer said he was deeply concerned that the region is on the brink and for the risk of miscalculation. downing street has confirmed he's spoken to france's president macron and germany's chancellor olaf scholz. all three leaders condemn iran's attack. in a televised address tonight, the prime minister publicly supported israel's right to self—defence. >> make no mistake , britain >> make no mistake, britain stands full square against such violence. we support israel's reasonable demand for the security of its people . security of its people. >> in other news, conservative leadership hopefuls robert jenrick and james cleverly have hit out at nigel farage's reform uk party. mrjenrick has suggested the party's popularity is down to tory failure and broken promises , and james broken promises, and james cleverly ruled out a deal with farage to win back voters. the candidates were speaking on stage at the conservative party conference this afternoon in

birmingham . birmingham. >> i think it's a symptom, not a cause. >> i think it's a symptom, not a cause . it exists in its current cause. it exists in its current state because we failed. and by that i don't mean you, the members of the party. i mean we in westminster, we need to demonstrate that we are a proper conservative party because reform is a pale imitation of us. >> us. >> we don't need to be a pale imitation of them. >> a 14 year old girl has been left with potentially life changing injuries after a suspected acid attack outside a school in west london, a boy aged 16 and a 27 year old woman were also injured after the substance, which is believed to be acidic, was thrown at the victims outside westminster academy yesterday afternoon. police believe the teenagers were approached by a lone suspect who was on an e—scooter with a member of staff left injured after she rushed to help the suspect is described as a tall, slim black male wearing dark clothing with his face obscured , possibly by a mask or obscured, possibly by a mask or balaclava . theatres across the balaclava. theatres across the

country dimmed their lights earlier this evening to honour the legacy of dame maggie smith, who died on friday at the age of 89. the star of screen and stage had multiple olivier award wins, having appeared in the national theatre's debut season in 1963. on screen, she was perhaps best known for her roles in the harry potter film series and the downton abbey tv series . and downton abbey tv series. and buckingham palace has announced. her royal highness princess beatrice and her husband edoardo mapelli mozzi are expecting their second child together, due in the early spring. the new arrival will be a sibling for the couple's daughter sienna, and the princess's stepson wolfie. the king has been informed and both families are delighted with the news were those of latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm cameron walker. now it's back to patrick for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts .

forward slash alerts. >> is the conflict in the middle east about to play out on the streets of britain? iran has bombarded israel with hundreds of missiles . of missiles. well, as you can see, it looks as though many did pierce the iron dome. we've not seen anything like this really for decades. israel will surely strike back. and then what happens? but as i sit here in britain, my main

concern is how this affects us now. intelligence agencies believe that iran has organised and funded sleeper terror cells across europe, including the uk and could green light attacks in response to a conflict in the gulf. the cells are operated by radicals linked to hezbollah, the lebanese militant group . the lebanese militant group. counter—terror police disrupted a cell in 2015 that was caught stockpiling tons of explosive materials and businesses on the outskirts of london. a source told the telegraph iran has hezbollah operatives in position to carry out a terrorist attack in the event of a conflict. well, whose side of this conflict will many people in britain be on? we've seen scenes like this on the streets every other week. for months, the pro—palestine brigade run amok. we've got a serving mp, a former leader of the labour party, jeremy corbyn, who was present at a wreath laying ceremony for the munich terrorist david lammy, has already rowed back on arms sales to israel .

arms sales to israel. >> there are certain uk arms exports to israel. there does exist a clear risk that they might be used to commit or facilitate a serious violation of international humanitarian law and our current prime minister, sir keir starmer, has a labour party that's completely split over israel. >> i mean, the threat to britain is absolutely massive and we've never had a government or a society. so divided when it comes to issues of the middle east. well, i'm joined now by political commentator and broadcaster mahyar tousi meir. thank you very, very much. and the reason i wanted to bring you on is because you have some experience of iranian sleeper cells and bad actors acting on the streets of britain . how the streets of britain. how worried should we be about an attack here? >> well, the ordinary people in this country should be worried. and what the iranian regime have been doing for the past few decadesis been doing for the past few decades is that they've planted their people and they're on different levels . so you different levels. so you actually have some of them

publicly. the sons and daughters of the irgc leaders are living in luxury in places like chelsea and kensington. they go to nightclubs, they do drugs and alcohol. they do whatever they want while their parents are oppressing the people in the country. and there have been some people in the past, the analysts have said, well, that might have been m15's tactic to keep them close here, to keep an eye on them. but that's just one layer. you actually have the rest of them who are not necessarily iranian, but they are the proxies. so there could be, for example, hezbollah members. they are all not currently activated, and these people would be activated if the islamic republic of iran is about to fall. and the other problem is that there's a third layer, which is basically the rest of the brainwashed islamists, who some of them would join the pro—palestinian protests. and these are the people who would cause trouble . people who would cause trouble. but the good thing about the islamist, islamist side are that is that they're going to say, oh, it's just a lone wolf. it's just an isolated incident. they're not going to take responsibility . responsibility. >> so what would that look like then? do you think that we could seriously now be on the brink of

not just here in britain, by the way, but i would imagine right across western europe, iran being able to activate sleeper cells? >> yes. i mean, we haven't really taken seriously threats from others, including the chinese communist party, that have had secret police stations in manhattan, in london and other places. the iranian regime as well. and they have their own versions of these sort of entities. and the canadian government, the british government, the us democrats, for example, they've been funding these islamists, they've been giving them money. they've been giving them money. they've been actually cooperating behind closed doors because the tactic is the strategy is always to de—escalate. they didn't really think about the consequences. we can actually have problems. for example, myself, a lot of people would know if they watch my channel that i've been targeted outside where i live by people who are linked to the embassy. of course, the authorities help keep me , keep me safe. we had keep me, keep me safe. we had another british iranian journalist who was also stabbed in london a few months ago.

these things will happen on a regular basis and it's not really just about those with links to iran, but it will be other people as well. >> yeah, the threat would be any country that supports israel in what it's doing in any way, shape or form can get it as far as they are concerned. mayor, thank you very, very much for coming on tonight. great to have you. right at the top of the 10:00, it's mahyar tousi their political commentator broadcaster. also, make sure you do check him out on youtube. and now gb news home security edhon now gb news home security editor, mark white is back with us. mark, look, thank you very much. you know, we've been talking a bit there about the threat of those sleeper cells on the streets of britain. i mean, it is a massive concern. i mean, how stretched are our intelligence services when it comes to that kind of thing ? comes to that kind of thing? >> well, they're working flat out. of course, they have an islamist problem, a very significant islamist problem that they're dealing with in this country anyway. and that was long before the situation in gaza arose , which added a new gaza arose, which added a new dimension to that. remember, in october of last year, we saw a pensioner murdered, stabbed to

death and two others injured by an asylum seeker up in hartlepool. he was later convicted, sentenced to life in prison . that attack was revenge prison. that attack was revenge for gaza. we've seen other attacks in germany and in france in recent months , again linked in recent months, again linked to gaza. so every possibility the security services are working on the potential for there to be a reaction to what is happening in southern lebanon and iran's involvement there . and iran's involvement there. now, the terror threat level in the uk at the moment remains at moderate , meaning an attack is moderate, meaning an attack is likely. that's at the kind of median point. likely. that's at the kind of median point . there is no median point. there is no indication that will rise. but clearly , as the situation on the clearly, as the situation on the ground in the middle east changes day by day, there is every possibility that we could see the terror threat level here in the uk rise at some point, as well. >> well, look, let's just say as

pictures now are , for anyone pictures now are, for anyone who's watching us on, on television, you know, are showing that attack earlier launched by iran, hundreds of missiles, some of them appearing to get through and what next, mark? you know, the world has been holding its breath here. israel is presumably going to hit back at some point. what's that going to look like? >> well , interestingly, the >> well, interestingly, the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, has said this evening that iran has made a big mistake and will pay the price. vice admiral rear admiral daniel hagari, who is the military spokesman in israel, also saying that that, response from israel would be at a time and of a manner of israel's choosing. so we await to see what that response will be. iran has said that it response will be. iran has said thatitis response will be. iran has said that it is ready for whatever the retaliation is from israel , the retaliation is from israel, and clearly, if israel do launch

and clearly, if israel do launch a significant attack on the regime in tehran, then there is real potential for this to escalate even further. the hope is that it won't. keir starmer. of course, the uk prime minister saying tonight that he stands firmly behind israel but not giving us any indication , giving us any indication, patrick, as to whether uk military personnel were involved in defending israel tonight. >> look, mark, thank you very much. not just for this, but for everything you've been doing for us over the course of the day. it's mark white. now, our homeland security editor, two main points for me now that i'm going to put to my panel. i'm going to put to my panel. i'm going to put to my panel. i'm going to be talking about this threat of iranian backed terror sleeper cells, but also whether or not sir keir starmer actually can deal with this. can he even deal with his own party when it comes to this issue? stephen, i'll start with you. you know , i'll start with you. you know, keir starmer has got a divided party on this. they had to lean on allegations he denies lindsay hoyle over a gaza ceasefire

vote. david lammy has just withdrawn some arms sales to israel. now he's standing up saying i support israel full scale. i mean, he can't even control his own backbenchers on this. if it kicks off, we're in trouble, aren't we? >> i'm going to say something that you think will surprise you. from my view about keir starmer. and i'll say it because i think keir starmer is a managerialist. i think he's part of the view that is pretty much elitist and establishmentarian, and i suspect he will do exactly what he's told about israel, give it full support, because that's what the americans want. and expect you to do. and that's what he will do. and i think he will carry on doing that just as tony blair did. >> but can the foreign secretary do that, though? >> well, that's the point. and this is where i think i think keir starmer will probably see this as an opportunity for himself, just as tony blair did, that if people start stepping out of line on the israeli issue, he can put the foot down and get rid of them or move them away. and he's still got enough power at the moment because he's so new in the job that a lot of

people are still trying to find their feet. so i people are still trying to find theirfeet. so i suspect people are still trying to find their feet. so i suspect he will be in power and he can segment his own rule here. very strongly. he will not veer from supporting israel and he won't allow others to try and step in. others will try , but i think he others will try, but i think he will have an opportunity to do otherwise. >> i mean, i think that's an interesting take considering his biggest challenge, if your theory is correct, would be david lammy, because i do think that he kind of does have a different opinion from keir starmer in kind of this unquestionable support for israel. i mean, that sort of 30 arms embargo fiasco, it was basically a symbolic gesture because it doesn't really mean much. sort of embargoed , like 30 much. sort of embargoed, like 30 relevant parts of different equipment, i do think, though , equipment, i do think, though, the bigger question here is not necessarily on keir starmer and his ability to manage his party in this, but it's really david lammy. does david lammy inspire confidence in this kind of precarious time in the world? and my answer to that is no , and my answer to that is no, because i think he's way out of his depth. i think that sort of symbolic act of the arms

embargo, i mean, you either sell them the arms or you don't, right? but when you do that, when you straddle the fence, when you straddle the fence, when you straddle the fence, when you seem more concerned with with gesture politics and with with gesture politics and with sort of identity politics, going to the un and talking about how you're a black man being there, i'm like, okay, have you ever heard of kofi annan? like, what are you what are you talking about? like, why is this relevant? right. and i remember watching this being like it was like a badge of honoun like it was like a badge of honour. as a ghanaian, i was like, oh, kofi annan, un secretary—general, you know, ghanaian and all of that. and then you have this man who's who's got to a very high office in british politics. and that's his kind of claim to fame. >> yeah. the idea , the idea >> yeah. the idea, the idea would be this, jonathan, that, you know, we're about to see one of the greatest foreign policy cnses of the greatest foreign policy crises that we have ever seen. and now in charge of that, we have an appalling foreign secretary. >> oh, you're such a troll, patrick. >> i kind of feel like it's groundhog day. i do not understand the absolute obsession with david lammy. it is completely baffling. he's the

foreign secretary. i do not understand. we've had we've had we've had a conversation about whether david lammy is out of his depth three times. my goodness , this is this complete goodness, this is this complete time. >> he turned up no , i feel like >> he turned up no, i feel like i feel like we've another time he's, you know, there's all sorts. >> this is completely ludicrous. there's nothing wrong with david lammy. you might disagree with his politics. doesn't mean he's out of his depth in politics. liz truss was out of her depth from the job. david dominic raab was out of his depth from the job politics on this are squiffy on israel. >> they're not just i don't know what that means. that trip to israel, then that could be a bit of an issue. >> it's completely ludicrous. do you think he's fully lammy? lammy? >> jonathan, do you think david is fully , squarely behind israel is fully, squarely behind israel in the hole, or do you think he might have slightly different views? >> i don't actually care what is going on inside david lammy's head because what? that may be a problem. what david lammy did on that limited arms embargo, i think he should have gone further , was that he was further, was that he was literally following out, following through the recommendations of a report that david cameron had actually commissioned, i believe, about

whether british exports could were guaranteed not to be involved in war crimes because that would implicate britain. thatis that would implicate britain. that is completely legitimate for a british government to do . for a british government to do. >> all right. okay, fine. be interesting to see how israel feels about this because, you know, iran clearly don't feel the consequences, do they? joe biden allegedly still in charge? well, i don't think we're supplying exports. >> i mean, exporting arms to iran. patrick is exporting arms to iran, a labour government. >> but i don't think biden's beenin >> but i don't think biden's been in charge for a long time. it's a problem. yeah, quite. let me just we've got a couple of minutes left on this. i just want to touch on what we were heanng want to touch on what we were hearing from mahyar tousi there, as well as a, just to resurrect as well as a, just to resurrect a report that was in the telegraph a couple of years ago about m15 actually getting hold of a sleeper cell here that was trying to plot explosives on the outskirts of london. they were related to hezbollah . so this related to hezbollah. so this this notion that we have got sleeper cells here in this country that could pose a massive problem, could be activated at a time like this if iran suffers. are you concerned about that? >> well, i think if the idea that there are sleeper cells is not something that i would

generally have thought is something iran can do, but if mi5 something iran can do, but if m15 are saying it's there and they've got evidence to do so, then we should be concerned about it. i know what's happened to my i've seen that in particularly. i watched the issue with him and i know particularly that's of concern not just to him but other activists who oppose iran. and that's something that's deeply concerning because i go back, go back to the point of esther. it's individuals that can just step out and they're the ones who are likely to go, and they are the biggest threat as well, because you can you can you can monitor sleeper cells. >> you can follow them around. you can you can see what they're planning. you can you can intercept communication and all of that. you can't do that for a madman that wakes up one day, takes a knife from his kitchen and goes to stab an old man running at five, slightly worried about m15 because they've got a track record of failure on this. well yes. i mean, there's always there's always that risk in london. >> they actually actively supported the person that caused the attacks in manchester by bringing them over and doing nothing about it . nothing about it. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so, you know, they've got

blood on their hands and they either have to step up on their game to make sure it doesn't happen again. i'd like to make sure that i have confidence in them. but after manchester, i still don't . still don't. >> there's also there's also the risk won't they? >> but there's also the having blood on their hands is they actively supported bringing in the person. hold on. they were charged with the nation's security. but there's also the risk of political correctness actually impeding their their efficacy. we know that 1 in 5 people convicted of terrorist offences since 1998 have been an asylum background. that's not insignificant. that's 20%. and yet, if you mention the risk of people coming over from with asylum backgrounds that have a higher than average level of extremism, you know, you're sort of maligned as saying, oh, but you don't want to bring in, you know, poor refugees from other parts of the world. but what we are saying is actually young males that are refugees are a bigger threat than, let's say, women. and children, which i think should be favoured. >> it would be a concern, especially if we look at issues that are taking place in another part of the world. it would be a concern as to whether or not we had imported people who happen to support people that we

weren't in, that conflict. of course it would be. but look, coming up, i'll bring you the very first of tomorrow's newspaper front pages. my panel will be back for that. but first we alluded a bit to this actually. so, so the islamist terrorist accused of radicalising, the manchester arena bomber salman abedi, is going to be released within weeks. that's despite the parole board branding him high risk to the public, concluding that he could radicalise others as well. look, should we be locking this guy away for life? what's going on? i'm going to be joined by the former extremist turned extremism prevention educator , extremism prevention educator, suhail ahmed. stay tuned

you're welcome back to patrick christys tonight. now very shortly, i'll have all of tomorrow's newspaper front pages for you . but first, stark for you. but first, stark warnings tonight about the pubuc warnings tonight about the public safety after it emerged today that a convicted islamist terrorist who was instrumental in radicalising the manchester arena bomber, salman abedi , will arena bomber, salman abedi, will be released from jail in just a few weeks. islamic state extremist abdul rauf abdallah has been serving a nine and a half year jail sentence for masterminding an isis recruitment network from his family home in manchester. the official investigation into the manchester arena attack found that abdul rauf had a significant influence on the bomber obe, with the two exchanging more than 1000 text

messages. abedi went on to kill 22 people and injure a thousand more when he detonated a bomb at the end of an ariana grande concert in manchester back in 2017. but because abdul rauf will be at the end of his full sentence in november, officials are now powerless to stop his release. that's despite the parole board , who let's be parole board, who let's be honest, sometimes it's quite easy to pull the wool over the parole board's eyes. but the parole board's eyes. but the parole board's eyes. but the parole board rejected his bid for early release, concluding that he still actually posed a high risk to the public that he continued to pose a risk of radicalising others. joining me now is sohail ahmed, who is a former islamist, an extremist and is now an extremism prevention educator. you've been on a journey yourself, my good man. so great to have you on the show. thank you very much. this person now we're letting him out because at the end of his sentence, is he still definitively for you going to be a risk, do you think? >> absolutely. i have no doubt about that whatsoever. i've come across . so having been an across. so having been an islamist, i've come across

people like that before. these sorts of people are they mastermind the kind of stuff that happens, whether it's sending people to syria or providing them weapons, and they're very difficult to de—radicalize it's almost impossible, if not impossible, to de—radicalize that type of islamist . why? it's because islamist. why? it's because they're somewhat they're so deep into the ideology. they're not the ones that are being groomed , the ones that are being groomed, they're the ones doing the grooming. so they really believe in the ideology. and given the religious dimension to it, it becomes something that is fervently believed. >> yeah. and i suppose if you're ultimately, in their view, i suppose only accountable to something, you know, much greater than anything that we could have here. very difficult to get that out of someone's head. do you think they're exploiting our liberal values? they get out. >> they absolutely are, they're exploiting our values, our

openness , freedom of speech, openness, freedom of speech, equality before the law, human rights. they exploit all of those despite despising them, despite hating those values. and the liberal west , they the liberal west, they hypocritically use those values to further advance their ideology, which in the end means bringing the downfall of the west, bringing the downfall of britain. so essentially, we've kind of they hijack our society to destroy our society. >> and >> and how >> and how many >> and how many more >> and how many more people >> and how many more people like this guy do you think there are out there? is the problem much bigger than we realise. >> far bigger in fact. in fact, the official statistics refer to a subset of terror sympathisers and terror activists actively involved people . but, the actual involved people. but, the actual real number is far larger, far, far larger. >> so presumably he will have had to have gone through . well, had to have gone through. well, i mean, i'm saying this i don't know for sure, but they will have attempted to have done some

kind of de—radicalisation scheme with him. can i ask, do you have anyidea with him. can i ask, do you have any idea what that kind of thing looks like? i know that you've been on your own journey yourself. was there any of that for you? what happens there? >> for me, there was no de—radicalisation program. i self radicalised , but in terms self radicalised, but in terms of the de—radicalisation programs, they do work quite softly and it's kind of one on one support and it's very much about exploring ideas and challenging them, but most of these people won't change their minds. they won't change their mind. >> and that's the that's the key line because 22 people died here. that was a concert at manchester that was full of a lot of like, young girls as well. the nature of that concert, you know, in ariana grande concert, that kind of person there, you know, who decided to attack them. and also just scar both mentally and physically. about a thousand more people, or probably more than a thousand people. the victims there and their families have seen this guy who

supposedly radicalised the bomber do nine and a half years, and now he's back out. i mean, this is an insult to the people who've had to suffer already, isn't it? >> it's absolutely reprehensible that he's being released. it's aninsuh that he's being released. it's an insult to the memory of those who died. it's an insult to everyone who is affected. i've appeared on panels alongside victims of the manchester arena attack. i wouldn't want to speak on their behalf, but i'd imagine they'd be infuriated and it's where we're kind of it's showing our weakness somewhat in that our weakness somewhat in that our we're so liberal that we're almost allowing ourselves to be harmed. >> and just finally and quickly on this then look is the only answer to lock people like this away forever. do you think. >> i think that when sentencing there should be a clause that allows for if there's still a

risk then indefinite imprisonment and not only that they need to be sequestered from they need to be sequestered from the general prison population. the reason why i say that is because his majesty's prisons are one of the largest breeding grounds of radicalisation, islamist radicalisation. what happens is that the islamists form gangs and then both non—muslims and muslims join that gang for protection. and what happens when you're surrounded by a certain type of people, you're more susceptible to believing them? >> no. thank you very much. tonight, absolutely fascinating stuff. it's always a pleasure to have you on the show. i hope to talk to you again very, very soon. so thank you. that's the hell. ahmed, that former islamist now an extremism prevention educator coming up. yes. it's the very first of tomorrow's newspaper front pages. they've landed there is one story dominating, as i'm sure you will expect. it's iran's missile strike on israel. are we on the cusp of world war three? also, do you trust this labour government to protect britain? i am also going to be playing you a little clip from kemi badenoch, who appears to that between 5

10% of civil servants should

next. welcome back to patrick christys tonight. it's time now for the first look at your front pages. so we start with the metro. i'm sure you can all guess the theme here, but iran's new blitz on israel . revenge attack over israel. revenge attack over raids on lebanon. the telegraph goes. iran attacks israel. very dramatic picture. there on the front of the telegraph. of those missiles. well, you know, raining down from the sky, really? and the us has vowed there'll be consequences. it ties in, doesn't it, with the idea that there are going to be follow up actions , interesting. follow up actions, interesting. let me witness change his mind on baby's death. a key medical witness in the lucy letby trial has said he's changed his mind about how one of the babies was killed. all right, let's go to the independent again. israel invades iran retaliates. the world looks on in horror, and

the i iran missile attack on israel sparks fears of new war. there's also a story at the top. there's also a story at the top. there tory centrists launch their stop. jenrick campaign. so there we are. let's go to the guardian. israel vows to retaliate again after iran launches missile attack. so look, those are all of your front pages we have covered at length so far the situations abroad, but also what that could mean for us domestically here. but i wanted to bring this to your attention because you might have missed this. speaking at a spectator magazine event this evening, tory leadership hopeful kemi badenoch has made some eyebrow raising remarks about our civil service. have a little listen . listen. >> it is not all civil servants. i don't want people to get me wrong. there's about 5 to 10% of them who are very, very bad, you know, should be in prison. bad leaking, you know, leaking. official secrets, you know, undermining their ministers,

telling, you know, you know, agitating . i had some of it in agitating. i had some of it in my department, usually union led, but most of them actually want to do a good job. and the good ones are very frustrated by the bad ones. >> so has she got a point? should civil servants who leak things, whether it's government secrets or just anything , really secrets or just anything, really be sent to prison? >> i don't know if i would put someone in prison for that. i mean, there's obviously there are degrees of this. it depends on the significance of the national secrets. but can you imagine being imprisoned by someone who, like , murdered someone who, like, murdered someone? like, what are you in for? leaked a secret . for? leaked a secret. >> like i leak the minutes of a meeting. exactly. >> or i leaked boris having a sandwich during lockdown or something like that. >> i mean, i think that went to prison for a facebook and twitter. >> well, exactly. >> well, exactly. >> i think that's a bit excessive. >> a little new channel. >> a little new channel. >> i think that's excessive. however, i do think one, there should be targets for civil servants. i do think there should be consequences for if you're a civil servant that performs badly. i have friends who work in the civil service.

and really, you couldn't run a private company. the way that a lot of government agencies are run. there are no sort of very limited kpis. it's very difficult to actually get fired, of course, you know, getting the best out of people that work for a lot of government agencies is very, very difficult because you don't have to because they don't have to. >> there is zero pressure. there is simply not the same degree of pressure that you have in a private company where you have to survive on a day to day basis. you don't get that in the civil service. what do you think, steve? you know, whether she was being entirely serious about actually physically dragging people to prison ? i'm dragging people to prison? i'm not quite sure. i can't work that out. but she's making a point, isn't she, that there's a good number of civil servants who clearly just want to leak and destroy? >> i think she was attempting to try and make a joke by saying, with the off hand, they should be in prison, but there is a realistic element to it all. the senior civil servants who who are in those roles have to sign the official secrets act. and i'm aware of that because at one stage in my life, i had to sign that exactly myself. so if they are leaking information, the

question is whether it falls within the official secrets act. and of course, if they do so, then it can be an imprisonable offence. and in my view, if they leak certain information, perhaps they should go to prison. the most likely thing is that really, we should have had a change to the employment contracts if it's not already there , that if they are caught there, that if they are caught leaking, they should lose their jobs and not only that, but more importantly to me, i'd like to see them lose their pensions because that is the biggest cost for senior civil servants to our country. unfunded pensions by those at the top. >> should people be sacked for leaking ? leaking? >> i mean, look, if that was the case, then half half of the ministers in any government, more than half would have been sacked. there should be or in badenoch case, sent to prison themselves. i wonder what the penalty should be for computer hacking. by the way . say, for hacking. by the way. say, for example, harriet harman, because kemi badenoch actually confessed to that crime and received. and that was sort of like dismissed as a kind of a joke before she got into parliament. so perhaps

a journalist might like to ask her about whether all kinds of crimes should be subject to penalty, or just the ones that she doesn't like. >> most crimes are subject to penalty . penalty. >> badenoch admitted to a crime and nothing was done about it. >> i just i'm not, by the way. i'm not trying to paw paw a bucket of proverbial over what you said, but i think i think at this point, i do have to say kemi badenoch is not here to defend herself against allegations of she admits to having committed crimes. yeah, fine. but i have to say she's not here to defend herself against that. so that's been said. >> even if she did go to prison, she'd be they'd be out in a few weeks anyway. >> well, maybe she was under coercion, she could argue. >> the point is, the series, the serious point here, patrick, is it kemi badenoch is a loose cannon . i cannot think of cannon. i cannot think of another politician who has sabotaged themselves. are you joking? more progressively, with every single statement, the badenoch badenoch . badenoch badenoch. >> liz. >> liz. >> liz truss . everyone always >> liz truss. everyone always knew that she was that she was mad, right? but but so that's the thing. when. so when liz truss opens her mouth, no one's

surprised because you expect what comes out of it to be garbage. but with badenoch, there was an idea in the left that she was actually, while repellent in every in every way. but she was actually quite sensible and smart. >> she's actually just how can you be repellent, repellent and sensible? >> look, it's a loose cannon . >> look, it's a loose cannon. i'm not okay. >> i'm not sure she's a loose cannon. >> i wonder with i wonder with kemi whether or not the difficulty that she's got is that she says certain things that she says certain things that make it easy for people to make a massive deal over that. i think i think the maternity pay thing. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and which she didn't actually really say, but she she allowed herself to be drawn in that situation. the culture is being valid than others thing, that thing there about prison. well i listened to it and i see it maybe with slightly different eyesin maybe with slightly different eyes in the job i'm in now. and |, eyes in the job i'm in now. and i, i don't really think that there's much wrong with i think i think i think there's a slight ish, not slight. >> there's an issue of a lack of polish. i think actually being a politician, you have to be very, very, very good at language. you have to speak in complete sentences and you have to be aware of all the tricks that

exist in media. no seriously. so the maternity pay one, when you look at it in its entirety, you think, oh, she's talking about regulation on businesses, right? because i was thinking, hold on, you're a woman, you're a mother. like, why would you be against. why would you want to make mothers lives more difficult? and then when you look into it more in depth, you realise that's kind of a stitch up, but that's kind of a stitch up, but that does the other side that being said, i'm not saying this to excuse it. i'm saying it to say that that says something about the quality of a politician. the quality of a politician. the quality of a politician she is. and i make the same case against suella braverman as well, because i said she was very shoddy. she was very unpolished, and she made statements that i just think, how did you get past any selection, their own worst enemies, because it makes people. >> it makes it so for easy people to attack them. >> we want them to be speaking normally at a level that the pubuc normally at a level that the public understand and say. the things that really matter to them. that's the kind of openness that we have, what they have to be careful about is how those who are their opponents manipulate that. >> i reject that you can you can be open said for most prime minister, i reject that because you can be open. >> you can be you can speak , you

>> you can be you can speak, you can be very down to earth, but you can also be very precise with your language. and that's something that, i mean, you know, journalists and people that work in our industry have to be very good at that. people that do front facing people, like people like us, for example. however, i think things that we say, for example, it's a lot harder to be taken out of context because we have that kind of practice and skill, and a politician has to have that. >> i wonder if there's a sense, jonathan, that if kemi badenoch, you know, she, she may well go on to be the next she may well go on to be a good tory leader. we don't know. but there's a sense that if she is tory leader, you're going to end up seeing a heck of a lot of headunes seeing a heck of a lot of headlines and follow up, clean up operations about stuff, she said, which is not necessarily what the tories want or need. >> she is a complete loose cannon and she's got this really bad habit, patrick, of saying stuff then gets challenged by journalists and then a kind of accuse the journalist of bad faith for simply repeating her words back to her. it's happened many, many times. it has happened many times. she's saying, i didn't say that. you're you're kind of like you're you're a lot of the time they have they can do because she's quoting her some journalists try to think that

they're being overly clever by by quoting their words. >> take that out of context, where we've just seen her there about sending them to prison. to me, it's clear that she's attempting to make a joke, but a journalist would turn around and say, you're not making a joke. >> you want to send them to journalist? >> no, no, that's not the onus. >> no, no, that's not the onus. >> shouldn't be on the journalist. this is why i said the skill of the politician matters. if i was a politician and you're trying to stitch me up as a journalist, you have to be skilful enough as a politician to turn it back on them. not to say you're trying to stitch me up, but i'm like, what do you mean? or what do you do? >> you have to take responsibility for the words you say. we all have to take responsibility for the words we say on this programme. >> absolutely. yeah, 100%. yeah absolutely. all right. sometimes i wish we didn't. but then. all right, look coming up, labour have got a bit of a battle on their hands when it comes to the unions. yes. because now they're going to bake thousands of people and employees at places like port talbot, places like aberdeen for example. that's going to be a big problem for them . so how are they going to them. so how are they going to deal with that? i'm going to be deaung deal with that? i'm going to be dealing with labour's union problem and crucially, an ed miliband as well.

soon. welcome back to patrick christys tonight and some more from pages for you. now just to round us off. so the daily mail middle east in flames. the iron dome holds firm against iran's 200 missile blitz. now israel vows vengeance. let's go to the daily express us threatens severe response as iran attacks

express us threatens severe response in. iran attacks 7—7 — ————~ express us threatens severe response in teln attacks 7—7 — ————~ express us threatens severe response in tel avivacks 7—7 — ————~ express us threatens severe response in tel aviv earlierei—f—f — ————~ shooting in tel aviv earlier today. i believe that at least eight people have been killed and several others injured. so look, i'm actually going to talk about something that's been much closer to home because that story is leading everywhere . story is leading everywhere. today is the 1st of october, and as we head into the first start of the colder months, today is also the day that the energy price cap rose, resulting in higher energy bills for millions across the country. there are two people, though, who won't feel the effects of the energy price hike. our prime minister and our chancellor, sir keir starmer, and rachel reeves only pay a starmer, and rachel reeves only pay a taxable benefit on what it costs to run their grace and favour flats in downing street, heat their own homes. now, as you knflats am heat their own homes. now, as you knflats inn heat their own homes. now, as you knflats in downing a payment capped at 10% of their favour flats in downing street, a payment capped at 10% of their ministerial salaries. and the ministerial salaries. and the sum won't be impacted by the sum won't be impacted by the ofgem increase today. this is ofgem increase today. this is all happening, of course, as all happening, of course, as pensioners across the country pensioners across the country face a desperate winter without face a desperate winter without the winter fuel allowance to the winter fuel allowance to heat their own homes. now, as heat their own homes. now, as

you know, i am you know, i am fundraising for the friends of the elderly to help the most vulnerable pensioners over the next few months. you can go to justgiving.com forward slash page, forward slash , save our page, forward slash, save our seniors. we've gone over £200,000 now, so thank you very much everybody who's given whatever they can. there's a qr code on your screen as well. if you hold your phone over that, something magic happens and you can give a little bit of money. and we're at £201,850. it's just giving.com/page/save our seniors. stephen, do you think it's a disgrace that starmer and co. they don't have to worry about their heating this winter do they. but some old people they do. >> of course they do. it's a double whammy on old people . double whammy on old people. it's a double whammy that we're going to see the increases in their their electricity and gas bills , whilst also seeing the bills, whilst also seeing the winter fuel allowance removed . winter fuel allowance removed. it's a double whammy on those who are going to try and keep themselves alive this christmas, when we know that there are reports that say thousands will die, a report from the government that's actually taking away these benefits. and at the end of the day, i can

just turn around and say, i think that's a disgrace. i think it's an utter, utter disgrace. >> just quickly on on this, jonathan, do you think that there is a hypocrisy issue here? you know, starmer's one of starmer's homes and there are several now quite nice and toasty. meanwhile you've got some pensioners who'll be freezing. >> i don't know how many homes he's got. i thought he just had one other. >> well, in terms of you've got downing street, got used to chequers, he's got his kentish town one. >> right. okay. so i mean look i don't think, i don't think it's, i don't think it's a story that starmer and reeves have got the same system for paying for their utilities. that every other chancellor and prime minister have had. it's not something that they've brought in to benefit themselves. yeah, but obviously there's an issue about pensioners. and i would point out that the very poorest pensioners are going to get their winter fuel allowance. and obviously people need to apply for pension credit if they're not taking it at the moment. but i completely i oppose that policy. as i said to you, many times, and i think they should reverse it. okay. >> just

reverse it. okay. >> _about how that's going you about how that's going i wonder you look so trim. thank you very much . there we go. you very much. there we go. okay, right now we're going to whiz ourselves onto greatest britain union jack. so. so let's let's crack on with that. that's your greatest britain. please, kemi badenoch. >> because it's been a slim pickings this week . but but i do pickings this week. but but i do agree with her on some of the culture comment. i think she actually did have a good sort of media hit with that bbc interview by saying not all cultures are valid, just because i thought the optics of that really worked in their favour. i think it sparked a very necessary conversation about actually, you know, the values that different cultures have and whether it's completely whether it's compatible with british culture. >> all right . >> all right. >> all right. >> stephen, well, i'm going from pierre poilievre, who is the leader of the conservative party in canada, in a position now that he is trouncing trudeau all across canada in a position where people believe that he is the best conservative leader across the world. and in this week of the conservative party, we're messing around trying to choose their leader. they should be looking over to canada and seeing how he has increased the

votes from 18 to 26 year olds to 40%. >> yeah, getting the young people on board is crucial. and go on. who's your greatest britain? >> some surprises here, patrick. it's liz truss because no matter how bad things get with this labour government, the moment that truss opens her mouth , she that truss opens her mouth, she reminds people how terrible the conservatives were. so in the last couple of days, she's talked about the tories going woke. that's what lost in the election. she's called for universities to be defunded if they don't support conservative values, which is obviously a very pro—free speech comment and then the highlight for me was talking about a transgender, an underground transgender mafia that apparently cost her the election. she is absolutely crackers. >> okay. all right. well, three strong choices there . and i strong choices there. and i think i'm going to go for a i'm going to go for. oh pierre i'll make pierre as the as the winner this time. he's certainly leading the way at the moment. anyway, when it comes to conservative leaders of places

of parties, i should say around the world. right. who's your union? >> jackass. please. iran. >> jackass. please. iran. >> yeah. good. okay. you can't have a country, a country . have a country, a country. >> i just i just need to just do a different country every week. come on, that's not fair. >> i get very competitive about it. it'sjust a game. so >> i get very competitive about it. it's just a game. so of course, stephen is yours. >> i'm going for phil shiner, the lawyer who tried to take all our soldiers to court, who's been faced with a criminal case and bankruptcy and has been expelled very quickly, very quickly on that. >> he did. he did he try to he put forward false evidence? yes. >> in terms of false evidence and arranged for people to give false, false evidence , accepting false, false evidence, accepting that whilst trying to get legal aid contract at the same time, so that he could then challenge all our soldiers militarily and saying that they've been committing crimes in afghanistan. no, no, he he he lost the court case, he's become bankrupt and they've expelled him as a solicitor. >> i see. right, okay, fine, fine . jonathan, who's your fine. jonathan, who's your union? jackass? please. >> well, it's a very tough, sort of pool, because it could have

been generic. it could have been any of them, actually, i've. i've gone with badenoch just because if they're completely foul things, she said. but in particular, there was a comment i just saw recently, which was sort of sort of attacking migrant care workers and saying that we need to get other people to wipe our bottoms and just talking in a very disparaging way about people who are coming here to do the work the british people won't do. >> okay . all right. fantastic, >> okay. all right. fantastic, so today's winner of the union jackassi so today's winner of the union jackass i mean, it could be. i mean, it could be iran, couldn't it? really? but, i mean . it? really? but, i mean. >> expect a warm front moving from the kitchen right through to the rest of the house. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hi there, and welcome to the latest forecast from the met office for gb news drier. for many of us over the next 24 hours, clearest in the north, but elsewhere there will be still some cloud and some showers, especially across eastern and southeastern parts of england, as the area of low

pressure responsible for all the rain over the last few days, slowly pulls away as it pulls away. we've got this cold wind coming in from the north sea to affect eastern parts of england, affect eastern parts of england, a lot of low cloud for the north and east of england, as well as the midlands, parts of east wales. and with that low cloud, some showery , drizzly rain at some showery, drizzly rain at times. but in the far west and certainly across scotland and northern ireland, we've got clear skies and a chilly start to wednesday , but that's where to wednesday, but that's where the best of the sunshine will be. northern ireland much of scotland, blue skies from the word go and having seen a few showers in the north—east of scotland during tuesday, it's a dner scotland during tuesday, it's a drier spell on wednesday and thursday here, with mostly just sunny spells and western scotland barely a cloud in sight. first thing 1 or 2 mist patches for northern ireland, otherwise largely fine. however, as we get into england and wales here, we've got more extensive cloud cover and the rain that we started the week with. well, that's turned to showers . that's turned to showers. nevertheless, through the wash parts of norfolk , suffolk,

parts of norfolk, suffolk, perhaps kent will see quite a number of showers continuing through the day along with a brisk northeast breeze and a lot of cloud that's going to make it feel considerably cooler than elsewhere across the uk. so low to mid teens on the east coast where we've got some sunny spells elsewhere . 15 to 17 spells elsewhere. 15 to 17 celsius we start thursday with widespread clear skies . still 1 widespread clear skies. still 1 or 2 showers through the day across the far southeast, but otherwise for many it's simply a sunny day. best day of the week widely across

>> good evening. the top stories at 11:00 the prime minister says iran has menaced the middle east for far too long as he condemns this evening's missile attack on israel. sir keir starmer said he was deeply concerned that the region is on the brink and for the risk of miscalculation. downing street confirmed he's spoken to france's president macron and germany's chancellor olaf scholz. all three leaders condemn iran's attack in a televised address tonight, the prime minister publicly supported israel's right to defend itself . defend itself. >> make no mistake , britain >> make no mistake, britain stands full square against such violence. we support israel's reasonable demand for the security of its people . security of its people. >> conservative leadership hopefuls robert jenrick and james cleverly have hit out at nigel farage's reform uk party.

mr jenrick has suggested the party's popularity is down to tory failure and broken promises. and james cleverly ruled out a deal with farage to win back voters. the candidates were speaking on stage at the conservative party conference this afternoon . this afternoon. >> i think it's a symptom, not a cause.it >> i think it's a symptom, not a cause. it exists in its current state because we failed and by that i don't mean you, the members of the party. i mean we in westminster. >> we need to demonstrate that we are a proper conservative party because reform is a pale imitation of us. we don't need to be a pale imitation of them. >> a 14 year old girl has been left with potentially life changing injuries after a suspected acid attack outside a school in west london, a boy aged 16 and a 27 year old woman were also injured after the substance, believed to be acidic, was thrown at the victims outside westminster academy yesterday afternoon. police believe the teenagers were approached by a lone

suspect who was on an e—scooter