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>> well . >> well. >> well. >> a very very good afternoon to you. it's 3:00 pm and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news we're broadcasting live from the heart of westminster and all across the uk. on today's show, sir keir starmer is in brussels today as part of his reset with the european union. now the eu wants britain to accept tens of thousands of asylum seekers per year, plus open borders for the under seconds and greater access to british fishing waters. the big question is this will sir keir starmer buckle to brussels? is today the day that brexit finally died? we'll be live from the european union throughout
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today's show and later i'll be joined by the brexit guard dog, ben habib. and today, the final four leadership candidates made their pitch to a packed conservative party conference. and with tough talk and tantalising promises on borders, immigration, net zero and taxes, the big question is this why don't they deliver on any of those things they're promising today, while they're while they're in power for the past 14 years? and as the middle east is poised on the verge of all out war today, i'll be joined in the studio by an extraordinary iranian activist who's currently on the 588th protest day at camps outside the foreign office. earlier this year, he went on a 72 day hunger strike that hospitalised him for two weeks. he'll tell me why he wants the iranian islamic state destroyed before it takes out the entire west . and the new the entire west. and the new survey by fairfueluk exclusively revealed to gb news shows that
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85% of drivers fear labour will ramp up fuel duty in october and 60% of all voters think labour's performance has been disastrous since they came into power. i'll be joined by howard cox. that's all coming on today's show. be joined by howard cox. that's all coming on today's show . what all coming on today's show. what was the show always a pleasure to have your company. will starmer buckle to brussels? that's the only question that matters today. don't forget, for years he headed up the people's vote campaign to overturn the brexit referendum. did boris johnson really get brexit done, or did he leave the cat flap and screwed to brussels? and now sir keir starmer can unscrew it and allow ursula von der elianne and the bureaucrats in brussels to come scurrying through. we'll be live from brussels throughout the show. 5 pm. keir starmer will address the eu and will be carrying that live and reacting in real time. is this the day when brexit finally died? send
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your views the usual way. gb news dot com forward slash you're safe now your headlines. here's cameron walker. >> martin thank you. good afternoon. the top stories from the gb newsroom at 3:02. breaking news in the last few minutes. labour peer lord alli is under investigation by the lords commissioner over alleged non—registration of interests leading to a possible breach of the members code of conduct. this has just broken in the last few minutes, so when we have more details on this story, we will bring it straight to you . will bring it straight to you. and in more breaking news this hour, and in more breaking news this hour , police in denmark have hour, police in denmark have confirmed that an explosion outside the israeli embassy in copenhagen was caused by hand grenades. there are no injuries reported and it's too early to say how big the blasts have been, according to a police spokesperson. meanwhile, police in sweden have also confirmed that loud bangs outside the israeli embassy in stockholm
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last night were the result of gunfire aimed at the building . gunfire aimed at the building. there are fears that the middle east is on the cusp of an all out war, after israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu swore that iran will pay for the large scale missile attack it launched on israel yesterday evening. and in uk news, all four tory leadership candidates have given their speeches on the final day of the party conference in birmingham, shadow security minister tom tugendhat saying the tories have led the fight for freedom. the conservative candidate says he'd had enough of a lack of principle and clarity. mr tugendhat said the general election was bruising and that the tories needed to restore trust as he set out his pitch to be the next leader. >> leadership is not about empty promises. it's not about cheap rhetoric or government by management consultancy. it's not about managing decline and it's not about talking our country down. leadership is about making
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choices that serve our country and our people best. i promise you that as your leader, i will serve our country. i will lead with conviction. i will act decisively. my mission is the prosperity and happiness of the british people. together we can win . win. >> well, james cleverly opened his speech at the conservative party conference with an apology to members, adding that the parliamentary wing of the party had let them down. >> sorry on behalf of the conservative parliamentary party, who let you down and we have to be better. much better. and under my leadership we will be.the and under my leadership we will be. the british people are never wrong. the british people told us to go and sort ourselves out . us to go and sort ourselves out. let's not make them tell us
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again. >> robert jenrick says the tories need to create a new conservative party that is built on the rock of our proudest traditions and noblest values. mr jenrick said we must stand for our nation, our culture and our identity. >> why is it that so much of the british establishment seems to put britain last? i'm told that we only have enough munitions to last a few weeks in war, and yet our country is giving foreign aid to parts of the world richer than our own. so if i am your leader, i will stand for cutting our bloated foreign aid budget and for spending 3% of gdp on our defence. >> kemi badenoch has vowed to make the chancellor wriggle, and the prime minister sweat. she rounded up the speeches, adding young conservatives have been let down by the party.
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>> a new political force has risen , something i have been risen, something i have been fighting all my political career identity politics, like the 19705, identity politics, like the 1970s, we face a battle of ideas against the left and its desire for ever greater social and economic control. it is socialism , returned socialism in socialism, returned socialism in a suit. >> well, the prime minister, sir keir starmer, says he wants to put the uk, eu relationship back on a stable, positive footing as he met european commissioner, commission president ursula von der leyen in brussels. von der lie—ins said the close alignment on international matters was a good foundation for talks on the uk—eu relationship. the prime minister is in brussels to meet european union chiefs with a promise to put the brexit years behind us and form a closer relationship with the bloc. he aims to push for a better trading relationship and greater cooperation on defence and
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security measures. it's his first visit to brussels as prime minister. >> i firmly believe that the british public wants a return to pragmatic, sensible leadership when it comes to dealing with our closest neighbours to make brexit work to and deliver in their interests, to find ways to boost economic growth, strengthen our security and tackle shared challenges like irregular migration and climate change. >> a metropolitan police marksman is due to go on trial over the fatal shooting of chris kaba 40 year old martin blake is accused of the murder of the 24 year old mr kaba in south london in september 2nd years ago. mr kaba died after being shot once in the head through the windscreen of an audi car in streatham. blake has denied the charge against him. his trial is expected to go on for up to three weeks. well, those are the latest gb news headlines. for now i'm cameron walker. more in half an hour for the very latest
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gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> thank you cameron. now we've got some breaking news coming in right now. and labour peer lord alli is under investigation by the lords commissioner over alleged non—registration of interests leading to a possible breach of the member's code of conduct. just to repeat that for you, lord ali, of course, been the centre of the huge scandal around the labour party. the free gear scandal as it became known. labour peer lord ali is now under investigation by the lords commissioner over alleged non—registration of interests, leading to a possible breach of the member's code of conduct. more on that story as the news comes in. moving on now , because comes in. moving on now, because sir keir starmer is in brussels
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today as part of his reset with the european union. now the eu reportedly wants britain to accept tens of thousands of asylum seekers per year, plus open borders for under 30s and also greater access to british fishing waters. will sir keir starmer buckle to brussels? well that's the big question. i want to put now to gb news political correspondent olivia utley, who joins us live from brussels. olivier, welcome to the show. you're standing outside a place that gives me the shivers. i used to be my old workplace, the european union . there in european union. there in brussels. all eyes on keir starmer. what's the latest? a lot of people thinking this could be yet another surrender to brussels . to brussels. >> well, he's had his meeting with ursula von der leyen this morning. there was a press conference afterwards. very little concrete came out of that. there were warm words from both sides. keir starmer has repeatedly talked about his desire to reset relations with the eu and the eu does seem more keen to enter into discussion with this government than they were with the last one. the
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problem is, of course, the eu are very, very tough negotiators indeed and it sounds as though, as you mentioned in your introduction there, if there were to be any closer ties between britain and the eu, it would involve the uk giving up quite a lot. so a few of the opfions quite a lot. so a few of the options on the table are a youth mobility scheme, whereby young adults under 30 in britain and the eu could go freely between one. one jurisdiction to another to live , work or study for a set to live, work or study for a set number of years. now obviously that would go down very badly with brexiteers, many of whom voted for brexit in to order take back control of the borders. and actually there are those in labour who aren't too sure about that either. yvette coopen sure about that either. yvette cooper, the home secretary, is very worried about the impact that a youth mobility scheme would have on overall migration numbers, which she has said she would like to see go down. another option on the table. but keir starmer has pretty much poured cold water on it in
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recent weeks. is the idea of the uk joining the eu's quota for migrants? so in exchange for sending back migrants who come to the uk on small boats, the uk would sign up to take a quota of the migrants who arrive in the eu. now that could end up in a situation where actually we see far, far more migrants coming in because that eu quota could end up dwarfing the number of people who come over here on small boats. so that is quite a worry. as well for particularly brexiteers, but also plenty in the labour cabinet who are worried about soaring migration. those are two things that keir starmer is talking about. another issue that france are pushing on, and apparently spain and sweden are backing them, is that they would like to see britain open up its waters, its fishing waters to eu countries. so keir starmer is being asked for a lot here, whether he's going to give on any of that remains to be seen . but there's remains to be seen. but there's quite a lot of pressure on him too, because he did promise that
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he was going to reset relations with the eu . with the eu. >> okay. thank you very much. olivia utley there live from brussels? of course will cross to you throughout the show and that big announcement expected shortly before 5 pm. today. we'll have that live on the show where we finally see brexit die. today all eyes on that later on. now, earlier on today, the final four tory leadership candidates made their pitch to a packed conservative party conference in birmingham. and our political edhon birmingham. and our political editor, christopher hope is there at the venue. welcome to there at the venue. welcome to the show, chris. so i have to say, there are four very, very polished speeches. no doubt been through many speechwriters, gem polishing machines, great promises being offered on net zero, on immigration, on the echr on protecting british culture, on cutting foreign aid and spending 3% of our gdp on defence. my question is simple. great promises. defence. my question is simple. great promises . why didn't they great promises. why didn't they do all of the above when they were 14 years in power ? were 14 years in power? >> martin. hi. welcome to the
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icc here in birmingham. as this conference winds up the final conference winds up the final conference of the party season and that, of course , is the and that, of course, is the exact question to ask 14 years in power until july 1st, do all these things when he had the chance. why talk about it after the event? we heard all four candidates speaking to members moments ago . i think james moments ago. i think james cleverly did the best in the hall. i interviewed a dozen or so members as they left, and nearly all of them were backing james cleverly. some had come over from kemi badenoch, tom tugendhat and robert jenrick. so clearly he's the winner in the hall on the tv. was he as good? some are saying on social media kemi badenoch came across better on the on the screen. i think he had in the hall there. he had a podium in front of him. james cleverly the other three leaders spoke without notes, but it looked to me a bit lost on this cavernous space. but joining me now is john cooper, who's the mp for dumfries and galloway. you're backing robert jenrick, aren't you? mr cooper, why do you think he did well in that?
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>> i think he did very well. i think he was powerful. i think he was passionate, he was personal and he was patriotic. and he's got a plan which i think is one of the key things. when you're electing a leader, you need someone with a plan that's ready to go. he's talking about renewing the conservative party. that's what we need. >> he's calling you the new conservatives, isn't he? mr generic, like new labour. is that really the example you want to follow? >> there's nothing like new laboun >> there's nothing like new labour. i think that's fairly clear. but he has got a plan and that's important. and one of the things he's very clear on is the european convention on human rights. and although i think voters in my rural area in dumfries and galloway and scotland are not obsessed with immigration, it is an issue. why is it, though, that you can do this when you're in power? >> martin daubney in gb news is saying correctly, why on earth couldn't the tories do all this kind of thing back over the 14 years you've been in power ? why years you've been in power? why wait till you've left to say it all? >> yes. i mean, i think that's a point that rob touched on as well. >> and he he quit over what we were getting wrong. >> he said we would stop the boats and we failed to do that. and we paid a price for that. >> now i want to say, of course, keir starmer is in brussels meeting ursula von der lie—in today. do you worry about the
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future of brexit? yes. >> i mean, i do worry what he's doing there. what is he accepting a quota of immigrants. what's going on? and the other thing i worry about as well is fishermen, because scottish fishermen, because scottish fishermen put the fish supper on our dinner tables and i worry that he may be bargaining away scottish fish. we do not want to see foreign boats coming in and hoovering up all the fish, and maybe a deal for under 30. >> freedom of movement? >> freedom of movement? >> yes, freedom of movement. this is all predicated on the idea that europe is close to us. this is nonsense. personally, my son is at university and he did his first semester from a scottish university at the university of bologna in italy. so the idea that there's no movement is absolute nonsense. >> now politics is getting going again . already we're hearing again. already we're hearing reports that 3 pm. today that lord waheed alli lord alli is facing a probe over potential breaches of parliamentary rules surrounding openness and accountability in the in the in the members code of conduct for the members code of conduct for the house of lords. do you think this is going to be a real problem for the labour? can't shake off this row about freebies from this very rich peen >> yeah, it comes out piece by
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piece and obviously we can't prejudge any investigation. it's fantastic news. i think from our point of view that finally a light is being shown onto what's going on over there, and it's obviously not going to be sue gray that's investigating this. but i think those labour mps who shouted long and loud about investigating the tories, i'm sure they'll welcome this investigation as well. >> but don't you all accept freebies? if you do accept freebies? >> i've not been in long enough to have any freebies, i have to say, but i mean, you know, the idea of lobbying and accepting donations and things like that. >> yes, that's fine, but when it gets to the level of passes for glasses, then it's right. >> there's an investigation into what is going on. >> and just back here to this, this conference, who do you think will get through to the final two next thursday? mps are voting on tuesday and wednesday for the final two. who's your money on? >> so i think rob is there. i think that was the prize here today was to get into those final two. and i think rob certainly has done that, the other the other person is very, very difficult to call. it's so tight. it's unbelievable. look it's the tories have got talent here. we've got it in spades. it's great that we've got an embarrassment of riches. it's a long road back though. >> do you think you can overturn
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labour's majority in one term of parliament? >> it's i think we're in a different place even now. i think when the election on the morning of the 5th of july, people thought they were in for ten and 15 years. i think it's a different position now. i don't think talk of us returning in five years is quite so outlandish . outlandish. >> but labour will get their act together again. this conference has felt to me like it's a break from the normal day job for the government , but for the tory government, but for the tory government, but for the tory government as well. but you could be out of power for ten years and by then we'll all be a lot older. >> the country can't afford to us be out of power for ten years. socialism doesn't work. it bankrupts the country. that's what will happen. i would hope that we are aiming to be back inside five years. absolutely. and we need a plan to do that. >> look, john cooper, the mp for dumfries and galloway, with his his thoughts on why robert jenrick should be the leader of the party. and it's very noisy here, martin. they're taking down this conference. >> yeah. i thought a forklift truck might sweep you away halfway through that there, chris hope. superb stuff as even chris hope. superb stuff as ever. live from birmingham. had a great conference mate . a great conference mate. seriously superb work. thank you for everything you've done there. thank you. now moving on. now we've got some astonishing
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breaking news and that is that the danish police have confirmed that explosions outside the israeli embassy in copenhagen were caused by hand grenades. let's get all the latest now with gb news homeland security editor mark white. mark last night on the end of my show, we saw that that astonishing barrage of missiles from iran into tel aviv. netanyahu responded , saying iran will pay responded, saying iran will pay a price. hezbollah saying, we are only in the first round. and now this breaking out in copenhagen . there's been trouble copenhagen. there's been trouble also in spain, as i understand it. what's the latest? >> well , i it. what's the latest? >> well, i think proof, if any, were ever needed that although that war in the middle east is thousands of miles away from the uk and other western nations, it is still being felt in those western nations . as you say, the western nations. as you say, the police in denmark confirming that, explosions that were reported outside the embassy
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building in the capital copenhagen late last night, where they believe caused by two hand grenades that were thrown towards the building and also confirmation coming through from the police in sweden that the sound of bangs that were heard outside the embassy building in stockholm was, according to the police in stockholm , gunfire police in stockholm, gunfire aimed at that israeli embassy building there, as well. so some real concerns in western nations about the potential for israeli and jewish targets, in to particular be targeted by these iranian aligned extremist groups. and of course, we're now looking at these incredible images of the ballistic missiles that came raining down across israel last night, and the
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israeli government confirming as we watched these, martin with increasing alarm, because we saw so many impacts that the israeli government confirming that the majority of those explosions that did hit the ground were in open areas and caused no damage, and the other missiles were taken out in the air by the aerial defence systems that israel employs to such great effect . what we can also tell effect. what we can also tell you about martin is the first israeli military casualty. the first death being reported now out of lebanon in that ground incursion, captain eitan auster, an officer in command of a commando unit that was involved in a ground incursion to take on hezbollah in one of the villages that they have described as a
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hezbollah stronghold , lost his hezbollah stronghold, lost his life. a number of other idf soldiers injured and medivacked out of that area . and throughout out of that area. and throughout the day, airstrikes are continuing in lebanon. in the caphal continuing in lebanon. in the capital, beirut, and elsewhere in lebanon, as israeli air force jets and missiles and artillery continue to target these hezbollah positions in that area. so, of course, israel taking in fire from iran as he did last night, but also fighting now in gaza and on that northern front against hezbollah in southern lebanon. >> thank you very much for that update, mark wyatt. and later in the show, we'll speak to sir malcolm rifkind, the former foreign secretary and defence for secretary his take on the perception there could be an increased terror threat, perhaps here in the united kingdom . now,
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welcome back. it's 326. i'm martin daubney on gb news now. there are fears of an all out war in the middle east, as iran has launched hundreds of missiles towards israel. but let's not forget that before iran's 1979 revolution, it used to be a very , very different to be a very, very different country to how it is now . this country to how it is now. this is an iranian woman in the 1960s by a beach on the caspian sea. look at it . a beautiful liberal look at it. a beautiful liberal country. and this snap, look at it. a beautiful liberal country. and this snap , also country. and this snap, also from the 60s, shows glamorous locals kicking off their heels to do the tehran twist to iranian rock n roll. music of
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the day looks like saint—tropez in the middle east, and this photo is of students at tehran's national university in the mid 19705. national university in the mid 1970s. what a wonderful liberal country that was! but things changed rapidly, and one man who knows just how iran's changed is a human rights activist, vahid beheshti, who joins me now in the studio. he left around 27 years ago. and for the last 588 days has been camping outside the foreign office to protest about the regime. he also went on hunger strike for 72 days. earlier this year until he was hospitalised. an astonishing story. thank you very, very much for coming into the studio and standing up for your country. can i first ask you your thoughts ? last night the thoughts? last night the missiles were flying into tel aviv. it happened on the show. what are your thoughts about what iran is doing in the middle east? >> so we knew this is going to happenin >> so we knew this is going to happen in the past five months. in all my interviews and speeches, i have said this is an inevitable war. it's going to
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happen because the leaders of this evil regime, they have no choice than get involved directly with israel. so they created all these proxies for all these years around israel. now israel is cutting the hands of these octopus of terrorism . of these octopus of terrorism. one by one, hamas, hezbollah neutralised them. islamic jihad going to houthis. they know israel next one is going to go for the head of octopus. as naftali bennett stated yesterday . naftali bennett stated yesterday. so they knew this is going to happen. so they are coming to war. this before they go in for the head of octopus. so, as you said, and you showed the iran before 1979. and forgive me for this, i don't call it the revolution so that i call it the international military coup against iran , islamism, against iran, islamism, occupation. so let me give you the very short story about few seconds, 1979, before all these
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chaos in iran. it was a meeting in guadeloupe, in france, between giscard the seine, james callaghan. from here, jemmy carter from america, and helmut schmidt from germany. so they decided in that three days meeting for regime change in iran, because the shah of iran says he's not going to sell the oil with the same price anymore. that was first reason. the second reason they were going to create an ideological wall in front of soviet soviet union in that time, in front of communism. so very soon after that, they created a character from khomeini, and they transferred the reformist movement that we had in iran. and the shah of iran was on top of that to the revolutionary movement and end up, changing regime in iran and very soon, few months later, after the regime , by the encouragement of regime, by the encouragement of soviet union, attack us embassy,
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the whole project fall in the hands of soviet union. and we are where we are now after 45 years. now that threat is not there anymore. it's here. look at our street. look at our youth. they are radicalising our youth. they are radicalising our youth here. irgc is based on in here, this mosque, these islamic centres, these organisations. look what they are doing here. and the only country and the only country understand the true nature of this evil regime is israel. and is doing the great job. israel is not fighting only for themselves . they are for themselves. they are fighting for us. they are fighting for us. they are fighting for us. they are fighting for our civilisations. i can explain more a little bit about this , but let's go with about this, but let's go with your question. >> it's an extraordinary situation, vahid, that a citizen of a country is almost willing a war upon it, because you want the regime change, not the country, to be destroyed. of course you want the country to be returned to how it was. are you currently in exile? i'm assuming you can never go back. your life would be in danger.
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>> exactly. so the clergies of irgc issued fatwa for my head. so when i was in hospital after 72 days hunger strike, we understand the fatwa has been issued for my head. so of course we are not, pro—war. we are. we are not warmonger. however, this war has been imposed to us. so we have no choice than to stand together and win this war against this evil regime. because let me explain something. the nature of this regime is this they believe they have a divine mission. this is their belief system, and they believe their 12 saints, which is named mahdi , is alive after is named mahdi, is alive after 1400 years. and they're going to and he's going to return. so they have to prepare the world for his return. so they have to turn our modern world into islamic state. so for in order to do that, the first step to destroy our civilisation, western civilisation, they have to eliminate, eliminate the state of israel. so the israel
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elimination of israel is not the goal elimination of israel is not the goal. it's the first step toward destruction of western civilisation. >> and that brings me to my next point. we've just seen hand grenades thrown at the israeli embassy in copenhagen. we've seen gunfire outside the israeli embassy in stockholm. we've seen repeated week after week after week marches in britain, parliamentarians leaving office, firebombing of offices. are you saying that that this is a coordinated action, that the iranian islamic forces want there to be chaos in the west and britain should be very careful. >> this is part of hybrid warfare strategies of iranian regime . they worked on this for regime. they worked on this for the past 37, 38 years. they invested billions on this, on this , you know, hybrid warfare this, you know, hybrid warfare for today. you think it is it just going to is it just happening overnight that they can mobilise 200,000 people? you think this chaos in university
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campuses from america, canada to europe is just happening overnight? no, this is an alliance of islamism. and marxism together. not today , marxism together. not today, yesterday. this is a result of many years, but today israel is not fighting only for themselves. they know, as i explained before, the aim is our civilisation, western civilisation. so israel is fighting for all of us, and in the end , my advice to world the end, my advice to world leaders is this stand behind israel and give up your short and quick interest with this evil regime , i can assure your evil regime, i can assure your interest will be much greater with a normal regime in iran. >> astonishing guest. thank you, vahid beheshti. superb sir. thank you so much. thank you. and stay safe out there, mate. it looks like you're going to be in a spot of bother. thank you very, very much. amazing. now we'll continue this conversation soon. but first, here's your latest news headlines with cameron walker .
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cameron walker. >> good afternoon. the top stories from the gb newsroom and more on that . breaking news now more on that. breaking news now the labour peer at the centre of a row over donations to sir keir starmer, is under investigation by the lords standards watchdog over an alleged failure to register interests. lord waheed alli is facing a probe over potential breaches of parliamentary rules surrounding openness and accountability in the members code of conduct. it comes after a backlash over tens of thousands of pounds worth of gifts accepted by the prime minister from the peer, a major who is a major party donor. police in denmark have confirmed that an explosion outside the israeli embassy in copenhagen was caused by hand grenades. there are no injuries reported andifs there are no injuries reported and it's too early to say how big the blast had been, according to a police spokesperson. police in sweden, meanwhile, have also confirmed that loud bangs outside the israeli embassy in stockholm
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last night were the result of gunfire aimed at the building. there are fears the middle east is on the cusp of an all out war. after israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu swore that iran will pay for the large scale missile attack it launched on israel yesterday evening . now, all four evening. now, all four leadership candidates have given their speeches on the final day of the party conference in birmingham , shadow security birmingham, shadow security minister tom tugendhat saying the tories had led the fight for freedom. the conservative candidate said he had enough of a lack of principle and clarity. mr tugendhat said the general election was bruising and that the tories need to restore trust, as he set out his pitch to be the party's next leader . to be the party's next leader. >> leadership is not about empty promises . it's not about cheap promises. it's not about cheap rhetoric or government by management consultancy. it's not about managing decline. and it's not about talking our country down. leadership is about making choices that serve our country
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and our people best. i promise you that as your leader, i will serve our country. i will lead with conviction. i will act decisively. my mission is the prosperity and happiness of the british people. together we can win . win. >> james cleverly opened his speech at the conservative party conference with an apology to members, adding that the parliamentary wing of the party had let them down. >> sorry , on behalf of the >> sorry, on behalf of the conservative parliamentary party, who let you down and we have to be better. much better. and under my leadership we will be.the and under my leadership we will be. the british people are never wrong. the british people told us to go and sort ourselves out . us to go and sort ourselves out. let's not make them tell us
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again. >> the metropolitan police marksman has gone on trial over the fatal shooting of chris kaba. 40 year old martin blake is accused of the murder of 24 year old mr kaba in south london in september 2nd years ago. mr kaba died after being shot once in the head through the windscreen of an audi car in streatham. blake has denied the charge against him. his trial is expected to go for on up to three weeks. well, those are the latest tv news headlines. for now, i'm cameron wahaca more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward alerts
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exclusively revealed to gb news today, shows that 85% of drivers fear that labour will raise fuel duty next month and even worse, 60% of all voters think that labour's performance has been disastrous since they came into power. well, joining me now on this is the founder of fairfueluk, my good pal howard cox . howard, welcome to the cox. howard, welcome to the show. you came into the studio last night of course, to do this, but of course, war broke out in israel. here we are today. tell us about your survey. how many people have taken part? what it's shown, and how can gb news viewers get involved to help you get those numbers up? >> thank you martin, thank you for having me again. yeah, it's simple. we're looking at about 2020. oh well 25 days now to to the the actual budget and we are going to be hit. i'm talking about drivers are going to be the hardest hit sector in that budget. it's no doubt about it. we've had 14 years of a fuel duty freeze in that time and we decided to do as we do every yeah decided to do as we do every year. this is our 14th opinion
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poll on the budget. we ask supporters and anyone can take part because we put it out on all of the social media. and we had in that analysis, you read about the fact that 85% are fearful of a fuel duty rise. that was 48,934. i can reveal today it's now up to 55,000. and the figures are sort of moving up in a similar sort of magnitude. but the worry is drivers are worried sick. now, i think i've told you before that i've actually got some credible information that rachel reeves is going to put fuel duty up by something like £0.10 per litre, i don't think she'd do that now. i don't think she'd do that now. i think it would be more like £0.05, which would restore rishi sunaks actual cut he did in 2022, but again, we didn't see much of that on the forecourts that wasn't passed on. but people are genuinely worried sick about it and i'm very worried that a lot of them, and ithank worried that a lot of them, and i thank you to gb news and a few other media channels, but the bbc, itv and sky are not taking
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the threat of the cost of motoring and the impact on the economy, but that will have on the motorist. >> well, of course they won't because they want to push the agenda that cars are the root of all evil. everyone should be going around on pushbikes and everyone should be powered by windmills. aside from the fact that you've got the concerns of the great british public about fuel duty rises a huge concern. you also asked the members of the public who responded and that 55,000. that's substantially bigger than any yougov poll. how they felt the labour party had been performing . labour party had been performing. tell us more. >> well, it's interesting we are actually. what? who did they for vote in the general election? and we so we obviously broke down by labour, by lib dems, by the tories and by reform. et cetera. et cetera. no doubt. obviously the greens think labour are doing quite well, but the rest of the people, and particularly the ones that did not vote or would not say we're looking at something like 90 to 87% who actually said that the labour are disastrous. and really, when you look at the
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whole poll, you know, look at laboun whole poll, you know, look at labour, they're saying the same sort of thing, the magnitude you're looking at something like 4 to 5. well half of the labour voters think labour are disastrous. and i think there might be a bit of buyer's remorse there, in terms of actually what's going on. the fact is, you know, people need their car. there are 37 million drivers in this country, and every political party should consider how important they are to the economy and the social aspect of the community. you know, it's the biggest actually gift to us moving around the country is having a car. and the last 100 years, you know, it is one of the greatest gifts to, you know, and what i get very angry, martin, when people say to me, we've got to get people out of their cars, i say, why? and they can't answer that. it's purely emotional, ideological position they're in. so, you know, i would really like people to take part in this poll because we're going to present it to all the media. and above all, every single mp will get a copy, including rachel reeves. and so they can they can actually sign up to take part at
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fairfueluk. com >> yeah. and i'll make sure that i put a link to that survey out on my social media afterwards. i know you've been slapping me to get on with that. howard have been a bit busy with other stuff, but i promise you, my old son, i will. fascinating thing you told me, howard. very quickly, is that the bigger the vehicle, the more annoyed drivers are. so truck drivers , drivers are. so truck drivers, freight drivers, all the rest of it, they're absolutely livid off the scale. >> yeah, exactly. i mean, obviously we've just touched about 5% of this poll. we ask about 5% of this poll. we ask about pay per mile and we ask people what they drive. everything from a bicycle, all the or if you walk all the way through to a big hgv 44 tonne truck, we're asking what you do and there's no doubt about it, doubt about it because people forget that a 44 tonne truck does about eight miles to the gallon. so any increase in fuel duty , the magnitude of 5 or duty, the magnitude of 5 or £0.10 is tens of thousands of pounds a year to a small haulage company . and that means they company. and that means they can't employ people. they can't even buy a cleaner hgv vehicles. it's a complete and utter stupid lack of common sense. we need to
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actually cut the cost of motoring because that will cut inflation and add to growth. and guess what? you know, you know what we buy in the shops. inflation would rocket downwards. but hey, who am i to say that i'm not the prime minister? >> well, maybe one day howard cox. but certainly for now. excellent work on fairfield, uk. i'll make sure we get that link out later on. howard cox, thanks for joining us. always forjoining us. always a pleasure. now then coming up, do you have a dog and do you think you've got them trained? well apparently it's the other way round. his master's voice might not be the one in control. by martin daubney on gb news. britain's news channel this sunday. >> join me camilla tominey for an exclusive interview with one of the most controversial , of the most controversial, influential and unique political figures of our time. boris johnson will be in studio discussing his new memoir, unleashed, the gripping story of how he dealt with plotting politicians problematic princes and a pandemic. from boris bikes to brexit and everything else in between . this sunday at 9:30 between. this sunday at 9:30 am, only on gb news, people's channel. britain's news
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>> welcome back. it's almost 10 to 4. i'm martin daubney on gb news now. i absolutely love this song because a round of applause for our clever hounds. there's a new study has found that dogs have taught us to speak slower. our furry friends can only process two sounds a second. so apparently we've learned to slow down when talking to our pooches. and joining me now is the dog welfare campaigner debbie matthews. debbie. absolute delight to see you with your wonderful dog there. i believe your dog's name is peppen >> that's right. hello. >> that's right. hello. >> nice to see you. tell us about this. this study . i always about this. this study. i always thought it was his master's voice that was in control. it seems all along, debbie. no surprise to you. it's actually the pooch that's pulling the strings. tell us more. >> well, anybody who's a dog
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owner will know that the amazing bond that you have with your pet. and what happens is you start to work as one. so they'll be talking to you , telling you be talking to you, telling you what they want, which is they normally get their way . and then normally get their way. and then there's us who will be throwing out the occasional word which, you know, they understand, like treat going out walkies all the normal things. but then you've got like police dogs, guide dogs, amazing dogs that learn amazing commands and they're just incredible dogs. i love them . them. >> and it says here it's a serious study. this was done at the hearing institute at the pasteur institute in paris. this is a proper academic study. they put electrodes on dogs heads. no dogs were hurt during the study , dogs were hurt during the study, of course. and what they did is they they they read out instructions and the dogs responded to them more when they were slower. and over time, the masters, the humans have learned that we just need to slow down,
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get down onto the dogs level as it were, and have a better communication. and i think what a great piece of advice. slow down a bit , have a great piece of advice. slow down a bit, have a chat a great piece of advice. slow down a bit , have a chat with down a bit, have a chat with your dog and just embrace that wonderful interface between dog and human. >> yes, they're very intelligent, you know, they and they do tell you what you know, if you're prepared to listen and watch what they're telling you, you do learn from them , i can't you do learn from them, i can't praise them enough. i just adore them. and that's right, isn't it, that they should tell us what to do? >> yeah . and i think it's just >> yeah. and i think it's just a great thing that we just slow down and communicate. and it seems they understand. they understand also, but not by the intonation . so if we change the intonation. so if we change the way we speak, the intonation, apparently that's not the thing. it's all about just slowing down and just being calm. isn't that wonderful? >> yes . and i think also it's >> yes. and i think also it's a lot of visual as well. i think they pick up an awful lot. i think when in the morning the dogs will know what i'm going to
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be doing for the day, if i'm going out, if i'm staying in, you know, they pick up on on so many things that we do and we, we do work as one in the house. >> now, debbie, i've, i've just learned that your father was the legend, the maestro, bruce forsyth. what a wonderful thing. i mean, i've met bruce a bunch of times when i used to edit a magazine called load that i gave him an award as the loaded legend. he won our first comedy award. i spent a day with your dad, and i've got to say, it was magnificent. my dad has still got a photograph of me and bruce by his front door. got a photograph of me and bruce by his front door . your dad was by his front door. your dad was an absolute treasure, an absolute joy. and, you know, i grew up with bruce from from as high as pepper there. and when i met him , he was an absolute god met him, he was an absolute god to me. i mean, what a father to have. >> yeah , he was wonderful. he we >> yeah, he was wonderful. he we miss him terribly. >> yeah, he was wonderful. he we miss him terribly . and he was miss him terribly. and he was a great dog lover as well. i mean, he was the one who got us all started. we've all got dogs, had dogs, all our lives, and he
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actually was responsible for getting my stolen dogs back home. so he . he became the home. so he. he became the godfather dog. father to us all. >> superb. so and he even laughed at my joke. i was so nervous about introducing a comedy award to your dad. i thought, what do i do? so i went to the greengrocers and i got. i got a pair and i said, you got, you got nothing for a pair, not in this game. and your dad looked at me and i knew my joke was really bad, but he went, oh, great, great, great. and he even kind of, you know, ushered me along. so, you know what wonderful, wonderful talent. and thank you so much for joining wonderful, wonderful talent. and thank you so much forjoining us on the show, debbie matthews and of course, pepper. thank you so, so much. wonderful. thank you. have a great day now. coming up, sir keir starmer is in brussels today as part of his so—called reset with the european union. but will he buckle to brussels . but will he buckle to brussels. that's the big question. is today the day brexit finally died? i'm martin daubney. today the day brexit finally died? i'm martin daubney . gb news. >> expect a warm front moving
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from the kitchen right through to the rest of the house. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello . good afternoon and >> hello. good afternoon and welcome to your gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. well, we've got a cold night ahead with some frost and fog in places, but as we head into tomorrow, plenty of fine and settled weather for many, the south will have to wait though for that as we head into this afternoon. still, plenty of cloud here as low pressure dominates, but as high pressure builds from the north that's bringing us that fine and settled weather. as i say though, as we head into this evening , there will still be evening, there will still be some cloud across the south and southeast, and still a few showers feeding into some east and southeastern coasts , but and southeastern coasts, but these will generally ease away as we head overnight, and this leaves plenty of clear skies overnight as well. so it is going to be turning cold, and we're likely to see some fog , we're likely to see some fog, particularly in northern rural spots and likely to see some frost by the time we wake up tomorrow as well. so to start tomorrow, as i say, most of that
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cloud generally breaking through the course of the night, but still some showers just feeding in to the south—east coast. still, by the time we reach tomorrow morning. but elsewhere, plenty of clear skies , so plenty plenty of clear skies, so plenty of fog patches in places and it will be feeling chilly with some frost in places too, but generally largely dry just away from those showers. just feeding into the southeast coast tomorrow as well. we've got high pressure building and that means generally a better day for all, largely dry and settled with plenty of sunny spells around, as i say. still, the odd shower just moving into the southeast coast, but you'll probably be unlucky if you catch any of those generally dry, just perhaps a build of higher cloud just moving into western parts of scotland. northern ireland later on into the afternoon, but with much lighter winds, generally feeling more pleasant where you do catch the sunshine as we head into the evening as well. that cloud will continue to build in the west, perhaps some light rain here at times, but overall generally another dry night. plenty of clear spells, so more mist and fog to come. and feeling cold once
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>>a >> a very good afternoon to you. it's 4:00 pm and welcome to the martin daubney show here on gb news. we're broadcasting live from the heart of westminster and all across the uk. on today's show, sir keir starmer is in brussels as part of his reset with the european union. now the eu wants britain to accept tens of thousands of asylum seekers per year, while sir keir starmer buckle to brussels. is today the day that brexit finally died? we'll be live from the eu throughout today's show and later i'll be joined by the brexit guard dog ben habib . and today, the final ben habib. and today, the final four leadership candidates made
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their pitch to a packed conservative party conference. but the big question is this why didn't they deliver on any of the things they're promising today while they were in power for the past 14 years? all the tories, all mouth and no trousers will former chancellor of the exchequer george osborne told gb news, which leadership hopeful he thinks should win . hopeful he thinks should win. >> james cleverly did the best speech and had the best audience reaction. and that's interesting because i think anyone observing the contest would say he probably came into the conference maybe in third or fourth place. >> centrist backed centrist. meanwhile benjamin netanyahu warns iran it will pay for last night's missile attacks on israel and this as the idf. israel and this as the idf. israel sends more troops into southern lebanon. how will israel retaliate and has this latest escalation in the middle east raise a domestic terror threat here in the united kingdom ? well, to show always a
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kingdom? well, to show always a pleasure to have your company. well, in about one hour's time, sir keir starmer is expected to address the european union and of course, the world telling us what his great reset with brussels means. now brussels want, of course, more concessions from the uk on fishing, on borders, on accepting freedom of movement for under 30s . would that be a for under 30s. would that be a betrayal of brexit, a surrender? doesit betrayal of brexit, a surrender? does it prove we never really got brexit done? let me know your thoughts and of course we'll have that reaction live in today's show with reaction from ben habib. you're not want to miss it? get in touch gbnews.com/yoursay but now here's your headlines with cameron walker . cameron walker. >> good afternoon. the top stories from the gb newsroom. the labour peer at the centre of a row over donations to sir keir
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starmer is under investigation by the lords standards watchdog, lord waheed alli is accused of alleged non—registration of interests leading to a possible breach of the members code of conduct. it comes after a backlash over tens of thousands of pounds worth of gifts was accepted by the prime minister from the peer, who is a major labour party donor. police in denmark have confirmed that an explosion outside the israeli embassy in copenhagen was caused by hand grenades. there are no injuries reported and it's too early to say how big the blast had been, according to a police spokesperson. police in sweden, meanwhile, have also confirmed that loud bangs outside the israeli embassy in stockholm last night were the result of gunfire aimed at the building. there are fears the middle east is on the cusp of an all out war, after israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu swore that iran will pay for the large scale missile attack, it launched on israel yesterday evening, britain's defence secretary john healey, has
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reiterated calls for a ceasefire in lebanon to bring the fighting to an end . to an end. >> well, i said to israeli minister galant this morning, we totally condemn the iranian missile attack . we continue to missile attack. we continue to support steadfast their right to security. but our biggest concern is to avoid this conflict spiralling out of control and into a wider regional war. and our view remains, and i made this argument to him that the best route to scale back the fighting is for a ceasefire in lebanon , is for a ceasefire in lebanon, and to back a un plan for a negotiated settlement. >> all four tory leadership candidates have given their speeches on the final day of the party conference in birmingham , party conference in birmingham, shadow security minister tom tugendhat saying the tories have led the fight for freedom. the conservative candidate said he had enough of a lack of principle and clarity. mr tugendhat said the general election was bruising and that
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the tories needed to restore trust, as he set out his pitch to be the party's next leader. >> leadership is not about empty promises. it's not about cheap rhetoric or government by management consultancy. it's not about managing decline and it's not about talking our country down. leadership is about making choices that serve our country and our people best. i promise you that as your leader, i will serve our country. i will lead with conviction. i will act decisively. my mission is the prosperity and happiness of the british people. together we can win . win. >> james cleverly opened his speech at the conservative party conference with an apology to members, adding that the parliamentary wing of the party had let them down. >> sorry, on behalf of the conservative parliamentary party, who let you down and we have to be better. much better.
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and under my leadership we will be.the and under my leadership we will be. the british people are never wrong. the british people told us to go and sort ourselves out . us to go and sort ourselves out. let's not make them tell us again. >> robert jenrick said the tories need to create a new conservative party that is built on the rock of our proudest traditions and noblest values. mr jenrick said we must stand for our nation, our culture and our identity. >> why is it that so much of the british establishment seems to put britain last? i'm told that we only have enough munitions to last a few weeks in war, and yet our country is giving foreign aid to parts of the world richer than our own. so if i am your
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leader, i will stand for cutting our bloated foreign aid budget and for spending 3% of gdp on our defence. >> kemi badenoch has vowed to make the chancellor wriggle, and the prime minister sweat . she the prime minister sweat. she rounded up the speeches, adding young conservatives had been let down by the party. >> a new political force has risen, something i have been fighting all my political career, identity politics, like the 1970s, we face a battle of ideas against the left and its desire for ever greater social and economic control. it is socialism, returned. socialism in a suit. >> sir keir starmer says he wants to put the uk eu relationship back on a stable, positive footing as he met european commission president ursula von der leyen in brussels. von der leyen said the close alignment on international
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matters was a good foundation for talks on the uk—eu relationship . the prime minister relationship. the prime minister is in brussels to meet the european union chiefs with a promise to put the brexit years behind us and form a closer relationship with the bloc. he aims to push for a better trading relationship and greater cooperation on the defence and security measures. it's his first visit to brussels as prime minister and a metropolitan police marksman has gone on trial over the fatal shooting of chris kaba. 40 year old martin blake is accused of the murder of 24 year old mr kaba in south london in september. two years ago. he died after being shot once in the head through the windscreen of an audi car in stretham. blake has denied the charge against him. his trial is expected to go on for up to three weeks. well, those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm cameron wahaca more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news
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alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> thank you cameron. now sir keir starmer is in brussels today as part of his reset with the european union. the eu wants apparently britain to accept tens of thousands of asylum seekers per year as part of a returns deal, plus open borders for under 30s and greater access to british fishing waters. the big question is this will starmer buckle to brussels? is today the day that brexit finally dies? well, joining me now is the chief executive of european movements uk , sir nick european movements uk, sir nick harvey. sir nick. absolute delight to have you in the show. a lot of brexiteers are nervous today, anxious that the democratic mandate of 17.4 million was never really done by the conservatives. there were holes in the withdrawal agreement. there were certainly
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holes in the windsor framework, which allowed precisely this kind of wiggle room for a future government. sir keir starmer is in brussels today. what would you like to see coming out of today's meeting? well, i think regardless of how people vote or felt about brexit in the first place, the one thing most people agree on is that it really isn't working out very well. and therefore i think keir starmer is absolutely right to have said he wants to press a reset on relations with the eu. one of the things driving this is, of course, the fact that we have war in mainland europe and europe is going to have to do more on its own account in terms of its future security, and we can't avoid the basic geography. the uk is part of europe and if we're going to defend ourselves as a continent and stand up to russian aggression, we are going to have to work more closely with our european allies. that's what nato has been doing. yeah, and this is in the context of nato. but europe's got to do more within nato, nato, because we can't expect america to just
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keep bailing us out the whole time. nato's job, as you know, spending also part of our gdp on defence. we already do that. we don't have the european union to defend us against russia. there are nato does there are 50 states in europe . many of them states in europe. many of them are part of nato. but because they do things in 50 different ways, we are not contributing as much to nato as we should. i agree neither, and nor are we doing as much as the americans want us to do. so. europe's got to get its act together, and it gets its act together by working in union, not by working as 50 separate nations. so, sir nick, you'd like to see them today, a concession or a more, more alignment on defence? well, that's the european army we were told was a dangerous fantasy. no, no, you've just made the point yourself. nato is the model here. nato shows that you can have countries cooperating on defence without forming a single army. i'm not talking about forming a single army. i don't think the european union are. i'm sure keir starmer isn't. i'm talking about a more
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effective organisation of europe within nato and getting more bang for our buck. you know, europe is the third largest defence spender in the world after america and china, but we don't get very good value for it because it's all over the place and it needs pulling together. well, the european union does want an eu army because i was at ursula von der leyen's maiden speech in 2019 when she precisely said that was one of her mandates. well, i can guarantee you it's not what keir starmer is going to sign up to. there's no way he's going there looking for a european army. well good. at least on that we can agree. let's turn our attention to freedom of movement, open borders. one of the much mooted ideas is that if we want anything out of the eu, michel barnier masterful negotiator from the very beginning, he tricked us. yeah, he absolutely did out trick us at the time. masterful negotiator said no cherries if you want anything from us, freedom of movement or some form of open borders is the price. let's talk about the first opfion let's talk about the first option a potential tens of thousands of asylum seekers coming into the uk. if we want to do any sort of returns deal
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from, say, for example, those coming to our coast from france. i mean, i think this is a decision we have to make a national sovereign judgement on if we want to have the cooperation of the eu and our neighbours in taking people back then, it's not entirely unexpected that they're going to want something in exchange for that. and i mean , to be honest that. and i mean, to be honest with you, whether we take a quota from them or do what the last government did was just pluck some number out of the air as a target and then completely miss it. >> it doesn't make that much difference. >> but, sir nick, if the european union cannot control their own borders, which they manifestly can't. no, indeed , manifestly can't. no, indeed, no. germany has got 2.2 illegal immigrants in the last nine years. why should britain take a share of that? we left the eu because people come through mainland europe to get to the to get to the british borders. and i mean , it's a choice. we either i mean, it's a choice. we either cooperate with the europeans or we try and do it on our own. but it's as bad as king canute trying to do it on our own. the reality is the migrants that come to our shores have come
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through mainland europe, and we either work with them or we or we don't. it's a decision that we don't. it's a decision that we can make. okay, let's turn now to the next idea that's been mooted and that's the under 30s freedom of movement work plan. i'm assuming you'd like to see that happen, too. i certainly would like to see that happen. it's certainly not freedom of movement. freedom of movement is something which is unrestricted. a youth mobility scheme is something that is time limited, andifs something that is time limited, and it's something that's for specific purposes. it would be very positive. i think british young people have had the right taken away as a result of brexit to travel freely , work freely, to travel freely, work freely, study freely in the european union. and we find that when we ask the public this in polls, that as long as it is a reciprocal arrangement. yeah, but it isn't. people would support this. and that includes people who voted for brexit, including people in the red wall. >> it includes people who voted for reform. >> but when you look at the numbers, the fact of the matter is it's one way traffic. there are about 6 million, 6.1 million
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eu nationals that applied for the settlement scheme to remain in the uk. there are less than a million brits living in the entire 27 eu member states. if you exclude ireland. so it's one way traffic. no no no no, come on. if we have a youth deal, more people come here than would ever go to europe from britain. no, you're looking at a totally different thing. the people who were and i don't recognise the figures, but the people who were there. well, the ons figures over the period of decades are of all ages, and they're largely people who've retired. a youth mobility scheme is something we have with australia. we have it with new zealand, we have it with new zealand, we have it with the americas. and australia is one nation. this is 27 member states. it's guaranteed to be a much bigger number coming into britain than we would get. going back to the eu and it goes back to one of the pre—brexit things of under under 30, largely unskilled work hammering british working classes in hospitality, in bricklaying , in those of in bricklaying, in those of those sort of jobs. come on, my
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people voted to take back control. you're as aware as i am that the hospitality sector, the agriculture sector, the bricklayers and everybody else are desperate for more labour. and if we could have some young europeans coming in here, we get a huge economic benefit from that. and if the if the brits more rather than be dependent on cheap foreign labour, who are all these people? we've got a chronic labour shortage. they're on the dole . who, who is on the on the dole. who, who is on the dole? who would be capable of filling these jobs? i mean, we've got the lowest unemployment levels we've ever had. we've got a desperate labour shortage and politicians need to say this loud and clear. the reason people come in is not because of social engineering. it's because our capitalist economy desperately needs more laboun economy desperately needs more labour. it does. it's reliant on cheap labour. sir nick harvey, please stick with us because we're going to have a quick now, quick look now at the conservative leadership candidates moving on because all four of the conservative leadership candidates are groaning already have made their final rallying calls to voters today entering the stage. first was tom tugendhat. he focused on
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creating a conservative revolution to drive growth, stating migration has cost too us much in the last 30 years. he even adopted david cameron's famous 100,000 cap on net migration. >> but a cap alone won't work. this is about visas, not about foreign courts . let me tell you foreign courts. let me tell you something that my opponents probably won't. this isn't simple. we issued the visas because businesses need the staff for our care homes and our hospitals to look after our families. so how do we square this circle? well, we need to fix migration by fixing the gaps in education and skills, in transport and in housing, so that we can recruit at home and not abroad . not abroad. >> but there's one man who was quite proud of the conservative party legacy. shadow home secretary james cleverly , he secretary james cleverly, he reminded conference the tories
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delivered brexit and he wanted to make sure that everyone remembered his own record in government. >> you have to be willing to be tough . it's why, within weeks of tough. it's why, within weeks of becoming home secretary, i introduced immigration controls that are now cutting net migration in half. i didn't complain about immigration or walk away from the challenge. i got it down by 300,000 people a year. yeah >> dig there. i think at robert jenrick and not everyone was as positive about the past. front runner that man robert jenrick admitted the country doesn't trust the tories, saying we should never fail our people again and help to build a new conservative party. he went on to set out his main policies, including securing our borders. >> the way to do that, we all know , is to detain and swiftly
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know, is to detain and swiftly deport everyone who comes into our country illegally . but we our country illegally. but we will never do that . we will will never do that. we will never do that. it is impossible unless we leave the european convention on human rights and to close the show was kemi badenoch, and she called for renewal by taking the shackles off the economy . off the economy. >> and she wasn't happy with the direction of the country. >> a new political force has risen, something i have been fighting all my political career , fighting all my political career, identity politics, like the 19705. we face a battle of ideas against the left and its desire for ever greater social and economic control. it is socialism returned. socialism in a suit. >> well, they're all promising the world there. but who came
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out on top? well, one former conservative chancellor gave his verdict. here's george osborne. >> i think there was a clear winner, actually. and by the way, i'm not signed up to any of these candidates . i thought these candidates. i thought james cleverly did the best speech and had the best audience reaction. and that's interesting because i think anyone observing the contest would say he probably came into the conference, maybe in third or fourth place. whether that translates into votes from mps, which is the critical next stage, who knows? but i think he delivered the goods. and i also thought the format worked. i guess! thought the format worked. i guess i was a bit there was a question i had on the train coming here this morning, which is does the device of giving everyone a chance to give a speech, going to work in the same way it did 20 years ago with the conference in which cameron got elected, or got himself in a position where he was the front runner? and the answer is, i think it did work. and the strengths and weaknesses of all the candidates was on display. >> he's back. george osborne now. by next week, only two will be left and then they'll go head to head here on gb news on
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october the 17th, before the tory membership then decides who will become the next leader of the conservative party. well, sir nick harvey stuck with me throughout all of that. through gritted teeth, i hasten to add. cynic, what's your take on the runners and the riders? it seems to me a lot of them are promising things that they could have done in the past 14 years and didn't. well that is certainly true. i mean, we've got two candidates here from the hard right. we've got two from the centre right, and that demonstrates that the conservative party is on the horns of a dilemma. they lost votes at the election on the right to reform. they lost them in the centre to the liberal democrats. they lost them on the left to labour. and they may convince themselves that they can fight on all these fronts at once. but the reality is they can't. they're going to have to make some big strategic decisions on are they going back towards the centre ground from which they have traditionally won , or are they so obsessed won, or are they so obsessed about the challenge of reform that they're going to veer out right to take them on, on that
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ground? and in a sense, we've got a beauty parade. my god, if you can call it that, of this rogue's gallery of candidates. but it's a strategic decision they need to make as to which direction they're going to head. and another demographic missed out there. sunak is those who simply stayed at home. the none of the above. the huge kind of apathy amongst the conservative electorate . so, nick, you've electorate. so, nick, you've rubbed shoulders with people in power all the time. do you think that the conservatives, i mean , that the conservatives, i mean, they seem convinced that this is just a minor blip? yes, just a minor blip. and they can just waltz back into power in five years time. what's your take? they do. i hear tales from the commons tea room. that that's just exactly their mindset. they think it's all just been a temporary blip. that. yes. okay. they made a few mistakes in office. normal service will resume in five years and they'll be back. and i to be honest with you, i think they just haven't woken up and smell the coffee. and because the new government's going through a bit of a rocky patch, they're convincing themselves that this is all
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working for them. and it's all going back into their laps. and i really don't believe a word of it , sih nick i really don't believe a word of it, sih nick harvey, i really don't believe a word of it , sih nick harvey, excellent. it, sih nick harvey, excellent. thank you for coming into the studio today. great to have your opinions. superb. we can disagree, but we can do it with a good spirit. thank you. now us vice president hopefuls tim walz and jd vance went head to head in their first televised debate overnight. but who won? we'll have all the brilliant analysis next. i'm martin daubney on gb news fryston news
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channel. welcome back. it's 426. i'm martin daubney on gb news now. hundreds of you have been getting in touch so far. of course the. keir starmer is in brussels. will this be the day when he buckles to brussels and brexit finally dies on fishing? a lot of you really, really getting passionate about fishing and why not? understandably, it was a great surrender to our coastal communities. giving fishing quotas to european union
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member states. that was one of the big red lines for brexiteers that once again was thrown away by boris johnson's government. dean says this if starmer announces a deal with the eu that involves our fisheries or ers taking more migrants , i ers taking more migrants, i can't help but wondering how much more of this people will accept. i think keir starmer is really pushing his luck. if i'm honest, a lot of brexiteers will no doubt concur with that. now to america, because vice president hopefuls tim walz and jd vance , they went head to head jd vance, they went head to head in their first televised debate overnight and they clashed over a range of issues , including a range of issues, including international politics and abortion rights. moderators at one point, even muted their microphones during a heated exchange over immigration. >> have so much to get to. senator, those have so much books. since 1990. thank you gentlemen. we want to have app has not been on the books since 1990. it's something that kamala harris created . margaret. harris created. margaret. gentlemen, the audience can't hear you because your mics are
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cut . cut. >> well, it's the mute. is all the time in the european union, especially nigel farage were well used to that kind of treatment. let's discuss this further with the chair of republicans overseas, greg swinton. i'm delighted to say joins me in the studio. greg, always an absolute pleasure. so let's just cut to the chase. who won? >> well, that's jd vance by a mile. i mean, you'd have to give it to kamala harris on points in the presidential debate. not a knockout. this was almost a knockout. this was almost a knockout to say the least. >> and on what particular issues do you think jd vance, when he had a lot of criticism before, and of course, he was talking about dogs and cats being eaten in america, and he was kind of acting like a bit of a troll. but last night he turned on the charm. we saw a very, very different republican vp. >> absolutely. it wasn't 1 or 2 issues.i >> absolutely. it wasn't 1 or 2 issues. i mean, i think he basically won on all the all of the issues and on the on the springfield, ohio one. he handled that perfectly. and then
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and then, of course, you saw tim walz outright lie. and of course, the moderators were trying to protect him. so, you know, this was a win for jd vance. it was a win for the campaign, a win for the party. he won on just about every metric or maybe all of the metrics. it puts him on the map for sure. it also changed the narrative that jd vance, you know, that the media created around jd vance, that he, you know, they dug up some old tapes on him. they made him sound like he hated women. he hated everybody. and you know, that's the media activists in the us that that were trying to create that. and he dispelled that completely. he just gave suburban women permission to vote for trump. >> and i think one of the telling tales that the republicans did pretty well is there's been next to no media about it in britain. there's no attack line on trump. so they've gone a bit shturm. >> yeah, it's only good to cover trump when trump is in trouble or there's bad news about trump . or there's bad news about trump. so you know, they they many of us were booked for media. and it's interesting that all of the
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legacy media dropped us after the results came in. is that true? it was absolutely it's true. >> so they wanted to get you in. if the republicans had a bad night, but when they had a good night, but when they had a good night, you weren't booked. >> they didn't say it that way. but but they booked us ahead of time because it was. well, you know , anticipated. and then it's know, anticipated. and then it's interesting. now, i know there was obviously there's big news in lebanon and the middle east, i get that. but last night i was on a few times, you know, pregame and then it's just interesting how, you know, my guess and i'm just guessing i can't prove it. but you know that if jd vance had fallen on his face and talked about cat ladies and eating dogs, this would have been we would not have been dropped. and it wasn't just me. it was many of us. >> so there's an extraordinary moment and part of me wanted to die for mr waltz there. when he talked, he was called out. he basically lied that he was at tiananmen square for that epic moment, that unforgettable moment, that unforgettable moment of chinese democracy. he wasn't there. he told a complete pork pie. he was caught out, right?
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>> and it's happened to him on many occasions about his war record, about his he he slipped again last night stating that this law was not, you know, has beenin this law was not, you know, has been in place. you know, since 1990. he slips up quite a bit. it wasn't a good and good for you and gb news for actually covering it even though he won orjd covering it even though he won or jd vance won, covering it even though he won orjd vance won, in a sense trump won. so good for you for doing that. i know that, you know, jennifer was dropped a few times. sarah was not even called. i was dropped a few times. it's an interesting conclusion to draw now , greg. conclusion to draw now, greg. >> obviously it's not they're not the presidential candidates. how important are these things in america? do they actually sway any voters, or is it largely just a spectacle, something to talk about people like you and i. yeah, it's a great question. >> quite often the vice presidential debate doesn't matter. and it just it's an afterthought . this year matter. and it just it's an afterthought. this year is different, though, for a few reasons. one is it's a really short campaign. you know , the short campaign. you know, the biden wasn't kicked to the kerb until late july . so it's a until late july. so it's a really short presidential campaign . two, it's really campaign. two, it's really close. and so i think this can
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move the needle. if jd vance again gave permission to people, he turned out to be, he came off as a really nice guy, genuine, super smart. you know, the guy you know , finished college in you know, finished college in two years. it's usually four in the us and at some schools, five. and then went to yale law school. he's a smart guy. he came off as brilliant. he came off as likeable, he was graceful. and so i think this is going to flip and you don't need to move. many people, all you need to move is a few thousand. in the key states. >> it's worth pointing out not everybody agrees with you. cbs poll carried out straight after the debate only had waltz 1% behind jd vance. >> that's that's really interesting . i was amazed at how interesting. i was amazed at how many mainstream media outlets came out, admitting that jd vance won, that. that might have been the exception. i didn't see that, but i think that it was a pretty clear victory for jd . you pretty clear victory for jd. you saw a lot of legacy media people come out and say, not a good night for tim walz. you know , night for tim walz. you know, they're not going to come out cheering for donald trump ever.
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all right . so you have to always all right. so you have to always take it with a grain of salt. but i think the outcome was pretty clear okay. >> greg swenson, thank you very much for joining >> greg swenson, thank you very much forjoining me, as always. an absolute pleasure. thank you. thanks. lots more still to come between now and 5:00, including a former defence secretary who will tell me whether we ought to be worried about a potential terror attack on british soil after explosions were heard near the israeli embassy in copenhagen and also in stockholm. but first, here's your latest news headlines with cameron walker . cameron walker. >> good afternoon. it's it's half three. i'm cameron walker in the newsroom. the labour peer at the centre of a row over donations in sir keir starmer is under investigation by the lords standards watchdog. lord waheed alli is accused of alleged non—registration of interests leading to a possible breach of the members code in members code of conduct. it comes after a
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backlash over tens of thousands of pounds worth of gifts was accepted by the prime minister from lord peer, who is a major labour party donor. police in denmark has confirmed that an explosion outside the israeli embassy in copenhagen was caused by hand grenades. there are no injuries reported and it is too early to say how big the blast has been, according to the police spokesperson. police in sweden, though , have also sweden, though, have also confirmed that loud bangs outside the israeli embassy in stockholm last night were the result of gunfire aimed at the building. meanwhile, there are fears that the middle east is on the cusp of an all out war after israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu swore that iran will pay netanyahu swore that iran will pay for the large scale missile attack, it launched on israel yesterday evening , sir attack, it launched on israel yesterday evening, sir keir starmer says he wants to put the uk—eu relationship back on a stable, positive footing as he met european commission president ursula von der leyen
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in brussels. von der leyen said the close alignment on international matters was good. a good foundation for talks on the uk—eu relationship. the prime minister is in brussels to meet the european union chiefs with a promise to put brexit's brexit years behind us and form a close relationship with the bloc. he aims to push for a better trading relationship and greater cooperation on defence and security measures. it's his first visit to brussels as prime minister. the conservative leadership candidates have reflected on their general election defeats in their final speeches at the party's conference in birmingham. tom tugendhat james cleverly , robert tugendhat james cleverly, robert jenrick and kemi badenoch are all appealing to members in their bids to replace rishi sunak after their speeches. the former conservative chancellor. chancellor george osborne gave his verdicts on the candidates performances. >> james cleverly did the best speech and had the best audience reaction. and that's interesting because i think anyone observing
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the contest would say he probably came into the conference maybe in third or fourth place. >> and the duke of sussex has called for people at the top to start listening in order to make a difference , as he joined a difference, as he joined a chat around a bonfire on a trip to lesotho, prince harry reunited with his close friend prince seeiso, who described the duke as my younger brother, the warrior. the pair co—founded the charity sentebale in 2006, which helps young people living with hiv and aids and cope with other challenges like health, wealth inequality and climate . the king inequality and climate. the king son has travelled to the african country without his wife meghan, and plans to visit south africa. two before he returns to california with those of the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm cameron walker. more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , sign up to news smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com >> forward slash alerts
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>> welcome back. your time is 4.39. i'm martin daubney on gb news. now let's bring you some breaking news now. some major breaking news now. some major breaking news now. some major breaking news about sir keir starmer and the gifts he's been receiving. of course it was called free gear care by the press. it'sjust called free gear care by the press. it's just been announced that the prime minister paid back more than £6,000 worth of gifts and hospitality. he received since entering number 10 after a row over ministerial donations. the prime minister is covering the cost of six. taylor swift tickets for to the races and a clothing rental agreement with a high end designer favoured by his wife , lady favoured by his wife, lady victoria starmer. now it comes after sir keir and other cabinet members who vowed to clean up british politics. if you recall, faced weeks of criticism for accepting tens of thousands of pounds worth of freebies from
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wealthy donors. an astonishing state of affairs. you've even got to read that out . paying got to read that out. paying back taylor swift tickets? why, oh my. moving on, benjamin netanyahu warns iran it will pay for last night's attack. missile attacks onto israel , and this as attacks onto israel, and this as the idf. israel sends more troops into southern lebanon. how will israel retaliate and has its latest escalation in the middle east, raised the domestic terror threat here in the united kingdom? let's get the thoughts now of the former foreign secretary, sir malcolm rifkind. sir malcolm , absolute pleasure sir malcolm, absolute pleasure to have you on. you, of course, are one of the goliaths of british government in the past, throughout the thatcher and major cabinets. and of course, trouble in the middle east has been going on since i was a boy. so you are no stranger to this on your watch, do you think? however, as well, there we go. some some outcome. so do you think that this time though , think that this time though, things are different? things feel more sinister ? and in feel more sinister? and in particular, sir malcolm, what could this mean for britain?
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we're seeing right now in copenhagen and stockholm. the terror threats are being raised there over to you. okay. >> right. i think first of all, the issues in the middle east are always controversial. but i think what is happening between israel and hezbollah is probably much less controversial in reality than the whole issue of gaza , because there is no gaza, because there is no dispute about the facts , dispute about the facts, hezbollah have been sending rockets into israel. over the their various grievances for the last year, and israel has had to evacuate the whole northern part of its territory. now, no country could live with that indefinitely. and i think there will be overwhelming support. and indeed, there is support from other arab governments. it'5 from other arab governments. it's quite clear. i mean , jordan it's quite clear. i mean, jordan yesterday, for example, was helping intercept some of the iranian missiles. and it's well known that other countries like eqypt known that other countries like egypt and the united arab emirates , they loathe hezbollah, emirates, they loathe hezbollah, as do probably more than half of the lebanese population. so we're dealing with a different situation , but that doesn't mean
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situation, but that doesn't mean it isn't risky , but it means it isn't risky, but it means that the who's right and who's wrong is much clearer than it might often be. >> okay, and back to the terror threat in the uk. as i said, we're seeing incidents in copenhagen and stockholm at moments like this, and we had a guest on earlier who's warning that the iranian regime has been funding and fuelling the hatred on british streets throughout the pro—palestine marches. could this escalation in the middle east precipitate something more sinister on our own streets ? sinister on our own streets? >> sure. i for five years chaired the intelligence and security committee. we had oversight with mi6 security committee. we had oversight with m16 and m15, gchq and therefore part of their role is to identify potential threats within the united kingdom as well as from overseas . and we're well as from overseas. and we're not talking about a huge number of people , but there are always, of people, but there are always, in any country, a small number of fanatics, of people who have got their own prejudices and whatever. and even smaller proportion of them are prepared to use violence and using guns.
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now, fortunately, we're the sort of country where people don't have easy access to automatic weapons and things of that kind. it'5 weapons and things of that kind. it's not the united states where they have very poor gun laws, so it's less likely to happen, but it's less likely to happen, but it always can. and what we have seen over the last 20 years is the disappearance of most of the pre—planned, things like you know, the london bombings or 9/11 that's thankfully seems to have disappeared, keeping fingers very firmly crossed, but what you can't eliminate entirely is the odd individual crank or fanatic or whomsoever who will try and kill people, not just because of middle east. we've seen this in other areas as well. so i can't i can't give you an exact answer on that because there's none that is available. >> do you think that the rise of islamist terrorism is one of the biggest threats currently facing the western world, and in particular in the united kingdom? >> it has been a very major threat, but it's worth putting
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this in perspective. the biggest threat was when what is called islamic state not only were carrying out terrorist acts, they had seized control of a very large part of iraq and a large part of syria, and declared an islamic state an actual new country in northern iraq and northern syria. now the international community work extremely well and has effectively destroyed islamic islamic state. they still exist, but they don't control any territory in the way they did then for the threat they can pose is a serious one. but it's not one that is a threat to the stability of other countries. i think we're in a similar situation here that these terrorists , i mean, for example, terrorists, i mean, for example, hamas is much less of a threat to israel and hezbollah. hamas is a threat. it can kill people. as we saw on october 7 last yeah as we saw on october 7 last year, over 1000 israelis brutally slaughtered. but it can't actually damage the existence of the state itself. is hezbollah can't either. but
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he can do an awful lot more damage in between their relationship with the iranians in particular, who virtually invented them. a good number of years ago, have used them as their proxy. exactly. for this purpose, that is what makes hezbollah a very serious threat because of the link with iran. virtually all their weapons come from iran, and there is no secret about that. >> and, sir malcolm, as i have you here. could i briefly ask you here. could i briefly ask you about the breaking news that sir keir starmer had to pay back £6,000 of freebies on taylor swift tickets? it is funny in one sense, but of course the labour party always said that the tory party were the party of sleaze. and of course, at the end of the meiji era that became a major headache. how badly do you think the labour party have played this freebie gate situation? sir malcolm ? situation? sir malcolm? >> well, i don't know whether to cry or to smile because inevitably you take some pleasure in your opponent's discomfiture. but also it does no good to the reputation of the united kingdom quite apart , the united kingdom quite apart, the reputation of the labour
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government . what i'm really government. what i'm really surprised about starmer. i don't have any animus against him. i think he's a pretty intelligent, straightforward sort of guy. i suspect he's got a reasonable amount of integrity. what i very much question is his appalling judgement. you know , as soon as judgement. you know, as soon as this became an issue, he should have said then what he's saying now, this has had to be dragged out of him over the last 2 or 3 weeks. and i'm very pleased he's made this announcement. it covers, i think, 6000 of the freebies. i'm not quite sure what happens to all the remaining ones and why. taylor swift is being discriminated against, which seems very unfair , against, which seems very unfair, but that's a matter for him to explain . explain. >> superb. so thank you for sharing your insights. an absolute pleasure to have you on the show. sir malcolm rifkind, thank you very much for joining us on gb news now. still to come, sir keir starmer will shortly be speaking from brussels and i'll be joined by brexit guard dog ben habib in the studio on martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel >> this sunday join me camilla tominey for an exclusive interview with one of the most controversial , influential and
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>> welcome back. it's 451. i'm martin daubney on gb news now. any moment now we're expecting to hear from sir keir starmer who of course is in brussels today as part of his so—called reset with the european union. but really is this the day when brexit could finally die? will starmer buckle to brussels? well, i'm joined now by the brexit god dog ben habib . and brexit god dog ben habib. and that's a nickname i know you absolutely will love because that's what you've been doing,
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to be fair, all the way through since that withdrawal agreement was published on the 17th of october 2019, when you and i were colleagues in the brexit party, going through treaties, going through documents, analysing the fine print, looking for potential ways back through the cat flap. ben habib on that day in 2019, you and i both spotted ways back on fishing on the irish border, on the level playing field, on taxation. the cat flap was left open by boris johnson and now sir keir starmer is in brussels. what do you think is going to happen today, and how do you think we got to this point? >> it's funny you mention if i can just say the 17th of october, because it's a date that's emblazoned on my mind. when we got that draft withdrawal agreement and after all the table thumping that bofis all the table thumping that boris johnson had done about delivering brexit over his dead body , would he, you know, would body, would he, you know, would brexit be betrayed ? et cetera. brexit be betrayed? et cetera. you and i both read the agreement straight away, and i
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think you were on question time later that day, weren't you? yeah. the paper was still warm, the paper was still warm. and we saw instantly that actually we were going to be hitched at the regulatory hip with the eu. we were going to give up our fishing waters. northern ireland was going to become annexed by the european union and by the way, our military was also going to be hitched at the hip with the european europol european defence union. and so since that moment, we've had to fight it. and sadly, the withdrawal agreement was put in place. bofis agreement was put in place. boris johnson got that thumping majority in significant part because the brexit party stood down against the tories and now we are fighting. we have been fighting this rear guard action to try and get brexit properly done. we haven't got it done. that has opened up the opportunity for starmer now to go back to the european union and these these concessions that we've heard mooted by ursula von der leyen, giving up fishing for beyond 2026, giving freedom of
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movement to the youth, and you know, this closer military cooperation and so on. these are not concessions she's going to be giving us in return for anything that we get. that's not how it works with the european union. these are all concessions that starmer will willingly give up and get absolutely nothing in return. the only way to have really got out of the european union was to leave with no deal. no deal was the best deal. union was to leave with no deal. no deal was the best deal . and no deal was the best deal. and what our politicians had to have done back in 2017 through to 2019 was get this country fighting fit both on the international trade stage as well as domestically to compete with, if necessary , a with, if necessary, a belligerent european union when it comes to trade, fine. you want a trade war because we want to become independent, because we want to exercise our democratic right to be independent. well, let's have it . independent. well, let's have it. we'll deregulate, we'll cut taxes, we'll take all our fish back, we'll jettison the echr,
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we'll put up our borders, and let's have it out with you. that's what we should have done in 2019. we didn't do it. and we're still fighting the same battle. >> and then that didn't happen. in fact, none of the project fear happened either. in fact, imports and exports of the european union have increased. they have brexit. so the sky didn't come crashing in. which begs the question even more why would we want to give any more concessions back if it's worked out okay. >> well, starmer, i mean starmer in my book is anti—british. and the reason i say he's anti—british is because he seeks for the united kingdom to be governed by a foreign power. he's prepared and willing in and desirous to take down our borders . and he was caught off borders. and he was caught off camera. you might recall this , camera. you might recall this, martin, in september 2023, in montreal. he thought the cameras weren't off him, and he said, actually , if i become prime actually, if i become prime minister, i'm going to take us into very close regulatory alignment with the eu on the trade front. you know, we all said it many, many times just to
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remind viewers, at worst, it was going to be a bit of an extra charge because you want to buy a german cah charge because you want to buy a german car. and the reality was we needed to check european imports into this country because we were running a £100 billion trade deficit, largely because of those german cars. everything could have been fixed. we could have become the nimble, independent, prosperous, sovereign nation that we should be. and instead, our politicians threw us under a bus. and starmer's going to make it even w0 i'se. woi'se. >> worse. >> let's look at some of the detail that's on the table today. so the notion, you know, barnier was a masterful negotiator, wasn't he? you know, they said at the time, no cherries on the cake. it was a one way ratchet. one of the things that barnier said subsequently is that any renegotiation will involve the united kingdom having to accept a quota of asylum seekers from the european union. the european union cannot control its own borders. 27 member states. there are more than 2.2 million
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illegal immigrants in germany alone. now. the labour government have said no way will they countenance such a deal. but you know, as i do brussels say, well, you might say that, but i'm afraid here comes the rough end of the pineapple. they want us to accept asylum seekers as part of our deal. do you think there's any way that sir keir starmer could relent and accept that starmer will willingly do it? >> i mean, you say that the europeans can't control their borders. they don't want borders. they don't want borders. they don't want borders. the european union doesn't want its taken them down. one of the reasons we have such a problem with illegal migration is because there are literally no borders in europe, because of the schengen zone. once you land in italy, you're at calais within within the time it takes to get there by train or some other mode of transport, the germans are waking up to it. they're putting their borders back in place. but this is a pernicious scheme. this resettlement of illegal migrants is a pernicious scheme. and the reason i say that is, well, first of all, it effectively
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legalises illegal migration. what it signals to the people smugglers and the would be people that they would trade is that you can enter the europe illegally, but actually we will then settle you legally somewhere there, telling them that if you can make it in, you'll be saved. and that is encouraging. more people to come to europe and to the united kingdom. so it's pernicious at that level. it's also pernicious. and we mustn't forget this. when people enter our country , it's basic, but we our country, it's basic, but we mustn't forget it when people are enter our country without papers of whom we know nothing , papers of whom we know nothing, they could be criminal, they could be terrorist. many are, and we are taking them into our bosom, if you like, into civil british society and exposing ourselves to assault. i call that uncivilised . and just going that uncivilised. and just going back to my comment on elianne starmer being anti—british. when you take down your borders and you take down your borders and you expose your country to that kind of assault that is
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fundamentally anti the national interest, if you're doing things willingly that are against the national interest, you must be against the nation state. and this is the problem also with the european project. they eschew nation states. that's why they've taken down borders . they they've taken down borders. they don't want france to be france or germany to be germany. and italy to be italy. they want all those borders gone and they want brussels in charge. and that is what starmer is , is chasing. what starmer is, is chasing. he's chasing his , his misplaced he's chasing his, his misplaced belief in some global order and some european order, which he thinks will be for the prosperity of europe and the globe over and above and to the detriment of this country. and we've got to stop it. the cry from the british people in 2016 was, please, for goodness sake , was, please, for goodness sake, start governing the united kingdom with the interests of the united kingdom and british citizens at heart. stop doing it for other nefarious reasons. >> okay, so sir keir starmer would no doubt argue that today
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he is protecting british interests or trying to increase them on the world stage? one of his ideas is the youth mobility scheme. so the ability of under 30s in the european union and the uk to choose where they would like to work. now, as i remember , taking back control of remember, taking back control of our workforce was a primary dnveh our workforce was a primary driver, particularly amongst the working classes across britain. it'5 working classes across britain. it's okay to say i know a few people can go to university in barcelona , but the fact of the barcelona, but the fact of the matter is they've it tends to be benabib one way traffic. there are 6 million eu citizens resident stayed in the united kingdom, but there's only less than a million brits live across the entire member state. sir keir starmer would argue this is to fill sectors of employment that we can't fill with brits. what would your response be to that? >> well, that is a fundamental, vote of no confidence by the prime minister in the british workforce. you mentioned we've got 6 million eu member state citizens living in the uk at the
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moment. having settled or or i think they're all settled status now, we've also got 6 million brits not working. you know, we've had record migration not just from the european union, but from across the globe. and this is a failure of government policy to have an industrial and labour policy for the united kingdom. that actually makes it worthwhile for people to get into work. i don't buy the nofion into work. i don't buy the notion that brits won't do certain jobs, that we've got to bnng certain jobs, that we've got to bring people into this country. i don't buy that. if you pay someone a fair wage for a fair day's work, and they're allowed to keep that which they earn legitimately in their back pockets, they will come to work . pockets, they will come to work. what we've done in this country, and by the way , the root causes and by the way, the root causes of the european union is overregulate, overtax, overburden. our small and medium sized enterprises made it very difficult for people to make a fair wage, undermine their wages with cheap imported labour, and then whatever little wage they get, tax it to hell. i mean, thatis get, tax it to hell. i mean, that is no recipe to get the british worker back into the workplace. >> but of course, sir keir starmer would say , well, the
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starmer would say, well, the brits don't want to do the work, they don't want to pick potatoes or strawberries or do that work. i would your response be to that i would your response be to that i disagree, make it worthwhile, allow their wages to grow , don't allow their wages to grow, don't tax them to hell on it and allow those farmers and so on that are growing these potatoes also similarly to flourish so that they can all pay on you know, farmers are under real pressure at the moment, in part because of net zero, because of the cost of net zero, because of the cost of all their fuel and everything else going up, which is another eu borne ideological project which is so damaging to the united kingdom. >> so many ills come out of europe, and if we had just brexited properly, if we can brexit now properly take back control to this country and jettison these ridiculous policies that have come to us from europe, we'd be such a prosperous country. >> the problem with that, though , >> the problem with that, though, is that we won't get a second chance. even sir keir starmer wanted a second vote. he was the people's vote champion. but now, perhaps something more
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pernicious is happening. and thatis pernicious is happening. and that is they won't put it to the people again, but they'll just be death by a thousand treaties. do you think that's the way it's going, particularly benhabib fishing once again , fishing once again, astonishingly, is on the table now when we brexited at the time, you and i at the time went through those quotas, and it was , through those quotas, and it was, by any reckoning, not what people thought. we were getting. taking back control of our sovereign waters was absolutely fundamental, something tangible, particularly to the coastal communities that were on their knees. they were just decimated . knees. they were just decimated. from the 19705 onwards, the common market was just common bad news for our coastal destinations. fishing once again could be up for grabs and benhabib. you can only feel once again this will be a one way ratchet. we'll have to give more away , we will give more away and away, we will give more away and we will allow them to do more damage to our fishing waters. >> the european union wraps itself up in a cloak of environmental friendliness, which is completely false, and you can see that when you look at the way that they fish our
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waters, they turn up with these massive trawlers, they electrocute all sorts of everything within a square mile. then they'll fish out that which they're allowed to keep , which they're allowed to keep, which they're allowed to keep, which they will have to have audited, and so on. when they go back to port and they throw everything else dead back into the water, that and they dredge up, you know , the areas of the seabed know, the areas of the seabed where fish lay their spawn and so on. the eu is a mercantilist, exploitative entity when it comes to resources , including comes to resources, including our fish and the 2026 deal was bad enough with the eu . i know bad enough with the eu. i know remainers used to say, oh, get off the fishing thing , it's only off the fishing thing, it's only 0.7% of gdp. well actually it's 186 coastal constituencies we have in this country , and it have in this country, and it would be 3% of gdp if we kept the fishing rights for those coastal communities. and remember, when you've got a vibrant fishing industry out at sea, you get vibrant industry on
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land because you've got to process the fish, you've got to sell it and so on. so that was a massive give up by boris johnson to the european union. and it's obviously up for further grabs at the moment. >> and it's also worth pointing out that as a percentile of those coastal communities, it's a huge part of their huge enterprise. and that was the point. you know, coastal towns, in fact, many of which have fallen to reform in the recent election . five of them, well, election. five of them, well, four, including ashfield fishing is absolutely sort of central to the mindset. the quotas are up for grabs 2026 and back to that withdrawal agreement, back to the protocol fishing is, as you know, it's enmeshed . anything know, it's enmeshed. anything else we try and unpick? if we try and unpick fishing, the eu will say, well, you can't do that. will say, well, you can't do that . absolutely. because if you that. absolutely. because if you want to put something back on fishing, then you lose here, here and here. spell that out for us. yeah. >> so the agreement on fishing, basically it's a lie, by the way , basically it's a lie, by the way, when you know, another lie from bofis when you know, another lie from boris johnson when he said that we get total control back of our
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fishing waters in 2026, we don't. what happens is that the quotas that are established for 2026 go on in perpetuity. we could unilaterally vary them, but then there are punitive impositions on us by the european union. for example, we give up the right for our lorries to drive across europe in order to pick up goods and bnng in order to pick up goods and bring them back to the uk. >> they exchange. i mean, basically everything, everything in the protocol penalise us, falls apart if we decide to say no on one point, right? yeah. >> and aviation, we won't be able to fly our jets into europe, which would be interesting because we had this debate back in 2017, 2018. we could just block planes flying over ireland in that case, and that would make transatlantic flying quite interesting for the european union . but flying quite interesting for the european union. but i flying quite interesting for the european union . but i mean, the european union. but i mean, the whole thing actually, martin fundamentally is born out of a political class that hasn't got a backbone, that doesn't believe in the nation state of the united kingdom and isn't prepared to stand up for british national interests. that's what the awful brexit deal reflects.
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it'5 the awful brexit deal reflects. it's a political class that doesn't care for this country, and we've got to get rid of them. we've got to change the people in westminster and get in a decent set of politicians who actually are capable , believe in actually are capable, believe in this country and wish to promote this country and wish to promote this country. now if you're just joining us here on gb news, we are waiting to hear from sir keir starmer. >> he is in brussels today. he's beenin >> he is in brussels today. he's been in meetings for most of the day with ursula von der leyen and other top brass at the eu. we're expecting an announcement from sir keir starmer imminently. in fact, he's already a few minutes late . already a few minutes late. perhaps he's having his extra croissant in the canteens there, as we used to do so often, ben. they can't get their nose out of those free buffets once they get going in brussels. >> ben, you could jump the queue. do you remember if you had our badge, you could jump the queue. you certainly could. >> champagne lobsters subsidised bars, the whole shebang. but on a serious point , sir keir a serious point, sir keir starmer has said that brexit has been done and we're not going to unpick it. he said time and time again we will not betray the
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vote. do you believe him? no, of course not. >> i mean, as i mentioned, he was caught on camera thinking he was caught on camera thinking he was off camera in montreal just a year ago , saying that he would a year ago, saying that he would augn a year ago, saying that he would align us very closely with the eu if he became prime minister, the man is a europhile through and through. he thinks and breathes brussels. he doesn't think and breathe westminster. when he was asked by emily maitlis, where would you rather be, davos or westminster? there was no hesitation. he said davos, what kind of prime minister of this country would choose davos over westminster? >> it's pretty hard to think of any brexiteers, any key brexiteers within the labour party, certainly not in the cabinet. there are no ministers i can think of that were brexiteers. so the direction of travel. >> i know you're looking very perplexed, but i'm trying to think. >> i'm trying to think i'm just spelling out in terms of the, the political makeup of this labour government. i mean, the brexiteers are very, very thin on the ground. >> yeah. i mean, i can't name a single brexiteer. left in the labour party. perhaps there are but a parliamentary members who are pro—brexit. but the funny
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thing here though, you know, just musing for a bit while we wait for sir keir to come on, is that labour should be a more interventionist form of government, and labour should therefore wish to have a free hand with state aid rules. for example , and it should be able example, and it should be able it should wish to be able to buy british first and promote british first and promote british workers and british business and, and, and, and under the agreement we have with the eu, of course, we can't do any of that. >> yeah. and a huge part back in the day was why not be able to subsidise british industry, for example, british steel. we've just seen this week you know tata steel the last i think actually we've now got sir keir starmer. we can cross live to brussels here is the prime minister taking to the stage. >> i've just had a very productive meeting with ursula von der lie—in, president of the european commission. first, we took part in a call with fellow g7 members where we all condemned iran's abhorrent
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attack on israel. last night , we attack on israel. last night, we agreed on the importance of israel's security and right to defend itself in the face of this unacceptable aggression . this unacceptable aggression. and we call on all sides to show restraint and avoid escalating further . no restraint and avoid escalating further. no one wants a regional furtheh no one wants a regional wah we also agreed on the urgency of ceasefires in lebanon and gaza to allow the for space political solutions, and last night's events have highlighted more than ever that, at a time of escalating conflict , of escalating conflict, including russia's ongoing invasion in ukraine, it is vitally important that we ensure we work ever more closely with our partners and allies in the pursuit of peace and security . pursuit of peace and security. asa and i have agreed that we can do more together in a few key areas, in particular promoting growth and prosperity, working together on shared
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challenges like climate change, energy security and illegal migration, and strengthening our shared security and stability . shared security and stability. so we're putting our relationship with europe on a more solid, stable footing. that's what the british people want a return to pragmatic , want a return to pragmatic, sensible leadership when it comes to dealing with our closest neighbours because they know that this matters for growth, for jobs and for security . the detailed work to security. the detailed work to take this forward starts now. we've agreed to hold regular uk eu summits at leader level to review progress , starting with a review progress, starting with a summit in the first half of next year. summit in the first half of next year . now, of course, there will year. now, of course, there will be issues which are difficult to resolve and on areas on which we will stand firm, there will be
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no return to freedom of movement, no return to the customs union, no return to the single market. but we will find constructive ways to work together and deliver for the british people . and now i'd like british people. and now i'd like to take some questions. i think starting with katya . thank you. starting with katya. thank you. >> sorry . thank you, prime >> sorry. thank you, prime minister. prime minister improved mood. music really only goes so far. what trade offs are you willing to make with the eu? because i'll ask for them in to order improve economic relations. they've asked for a youth mobility scheme, for example. and if you forgive me, prime minister, you've decided to repay £6,000 worth of gifts . to repay £6,000 worth of gifts. why now? why? those gifts are not all of them. have you decided it was wrong to take them? or did you come under pressure? >> thank you. well, on the question of the discussions i've had this afternoon with the president, with ursula, tone, does matter. resetting does
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matter. and that has been a very important part of the message that i have carried into the meeting today , a return to meeting today, a return to pragmatism , to doing business in pragmatism, to doing business in a respectful way, and in a way which i think will focus on deliverables rather than charging to the nearest camera to use a megaphone. so that does matter, in terms of the details of the challenges, look, of course there will be challenges along the way, but this was about a good faith step forward to constructive deliverables, which i think are achievable. the nature of the discussion wasn't in the sort of individual items, it was much more sort of setting the framework for the summits that will follow. in relation to your second question, look, we came in as a government of change, we are now going to bring forward principles for donations because until now, politicians have used
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their best individual judgement on a case by case basis. i think we need some principles of general application . so i took general application. so i took the decision that until the principles are in place, it was right for me to make those repayments. thank you. i'll go to adam. thank you. adam parsons from sky news. prime minister, a couple, if i may. >> lord alli is facing an investigation. i wonder how concerned you are that your biggest donor was not fully transparent with the british public. and also , this statement public. and also, this statement is full of good intentions, but very short of any concrete proposals. just on one, lots of people would like to see an agreement about youth mobility, giving young people the chance to move into europe, to spend some time there. would you like to see that and what progress has been made? >> well, look, i'm not going to comment on the lord alli, investigation. it'll run its
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course, on on the nature of the discussions today and the points you put to me . discussions today and the points you put to me. i discussions today and the points you put to me . i mean, firstly, you put to me. i mean, firstly, on youth mobility, i've answered and put our position pretty clearly on a number of occasions, but that really wasn't the nature of today's debate. today's debate was, the first step down to a path which will then lead to negotiations to the summit. in the early part of next year and focused on the deliverables and what we can do rather than what we can't do, but by its very nature, it was not a discussion that went into the details at this stage. it was about setting the parameters, setting the tone, agreeing how this would be done , agreeing how this would be done, and the sort of milestones, if you like, along the way. and in that sense it was very constructive and positive. and with evident good faith on both sides. thank you very much. i've got robert . got robert. >> robert peston, itv , prime
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>> robert peston, itv, prime minister, the israeli prime minister, the israeli prime minister has said that he will retaliate against iran. what is your position on whether he should? what is the g7 position on all of that and related to that, the mod has said that it helped israel defend itself . are helped israel defend itself. are there circumstances in which british forces would help with an attack on iran ? and then just an attack on iran? and then just briefly on this issue of the repayment , british voters will repayment, british voters will see your repaying £6,000 plus of gifts as an admission by you that you were wrong to accept those gifts. are you saying you made a mistake? >> look on the question of iran. i mean, we have condemned in the
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strongest terms the attack by iran last night. and it is not to be tolerated, and i think it's very clear that we stand firm with israel. israel does have the right to security . have the right to security. israel does have the right to defend herself. and that is absolutely cleah i'm not going to get drawn further than that , to get drawn further than that, nor to get drawn on the role of our own service personnel. last night, obviously in april, we saw the role that was taken, but i'm not going to get drawn beyond that. but that is not any indication that we're going any further on this occasion. on the on the repayment. i can't say any more than i did. we're going to draw up some principles until there, which will guide everybody until they're in place. i thought it was right to repay these particular payments. that's the long and the short of
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it, thank you. olivia >> olivia. olivia gb news, just on the specifics of a potential reset deal with the eu, can you rule out granting eu fisher access to uk waters and also briefly on this on this £6,000, would you consider paying back any more money, >> on the question of fish, etc? again, that wasn't the nature of the discussion today. this was very much a discussion at leader level to set the tone, set the ambition, to make clear we were focused on deliverables, to set in place how we would go about these discussions and where we thought the appropriate timelines were starting with the summit in the early part of next yeah summit in the early part of next year, which obviously gives a sort of marker as to when we accept some progress to be made by. but we were not, you know, it wasn't in the nature of a
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discussion about some of the issues which will have to be part of the discussion, of course. but the question is about the tone and the good faith in relation to the repayments. i can't add to the answer. i've given twice now. thank you. bruno >> i'm going to come back at two for fishing. i know you didn't talk about it, for fishing. i know you didn't talk about it , today, just talk about it, today, just because you gave us some categorical , categorical categorical, categorical assurances on free movement , assurances on free movement, customs union and the rest. >> so i'm looking for a couple of categorical, assurances. >> will britain hold the line on marine protection areas, bans on bottom trawling? we know that the french are unhappy with that . the french are unhappy with that. can you give us a categorical, assurance that britain won't overturn the sandeel fishing ban, in the north sea that the eu is demanding that britain drops? >> thanks. >> thanks. >> yeah. i mean, look, on the first point you make , you know, first point you make, you know, the red lines that we have , we
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the red lines that we have, we have set out and we've been very open and public in relation to them, and they set the parameters of the debate that we can have. but i do think that we can have. but i do think that we can be ambitious. i do think we can be ambitious. i do think we can make progress. and today was about making sure that, as it were, from the very get go, both sides are agreed that we want to act in good faith. we want to make progress. we want deliverables, and we want it to be constructive, the issues you raise, marine issues. et cetera. et cetera. that literally was not the nature of the discussion today. i'm not suggesting that these things won't, at some stage need to be addressed. of course they will. but that wasn't what today was about. and ihope wasn't what today was about. and i hope not to disappoint. but in the past, i'm not sure the sort of running commentary assisted this process, and therefore there'll probably be a bit less of it as we go through it this time around. thank you very much. and then max delaney , much. and then max delaney, thank you very much, prime minister >> max delaney afp , you just
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>> max delaney afp, you just spoke about these talks being the beginning of a long path towards negotiations, towards a reset . can you admit now that reset. can you admit now that your much vaunted reset with the eu is not going to be easy? it's not going to be quick, and it's not going to be quick, and it's not going to be quick, and it's not going to be particularly extensive, after all. and then on a second issue on youth mobility , are you sacrificing mobility, are you sacrificing the opportunities for british youth on a altar of freedom, of movement? and, and a refusal and wanting lower immigration figures ? thank you. figures? thank you. >> well, max, if you're putting to me that there are going to be challenges we'll have to deal with, then of course i accept that, that is obvious, but i think one acknowledging that there are going to be challenges is a good thing up front, a lot of it is to do with the tone and
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the intent and the good faith. and in a sense , today was as and in a sense, today was as much about turning the page on the old way of doing these negotiations. and starting a different way of doing it, a much more constructive way of doing it. it doesn't mean the challenges aren't there. it doesn't mean it's going to be easy, on the timing, look , we easy, on the timing, look, we are putting in place milestones in order to make sure that we make progress. and therefore you know, we will hope to keep to those timetables. and that means we'll be heading for this summit in the early part of next year on youth mobility. look again, i have made it clear what our position is and in particular that free movement is a red line. but today wasn't about those individual issues. it was about the way in which we will conduct these negotiations and the emphasis it was on what we can do, not what we can't do, and on deliverables, rather than sort of running commentary.
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thank you very much for being here. thank you for your questions . questions. >> okay. that was sir keir starmer. there addressing the press, including our own olivia utley in brussels, cutting back to the studio here. i'm still joined by ben habib. let's just go over some of the details in case you missed that. he started off by saying he spoke with the fellow members of the g7, talking about israel's right to defend itself . and it's vitally defend itself. and it's vitally important that we work, important that we work, important that we work, important that we work with our partners when specifically pressed on what today's conversation was about, i don't really think ben habib got any detail whatsoever out of that, he said he spoke in, in in brussels word salads in many senses. he talks about promoting growth on climate change, illegal immigration, our relationship with the eu on a more stable foundation. he did say there had been no return to the single market or the customs union or freedom of movement, and he talks about regular eu,
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uk summit. so there's going to be a lot more cosiness with mrs. von der and etcetera. what were your takeaways from it. >> so the three big headings that he gave growth and prosperity for that i read , an prosperity for that i read, an attempt to, you know, have easier trade between europe and the united kingdom. that can only happen at a price. he then went on to talk about climate change, which in my view stands in opposition to growth and prosperity. the net zero agenda, by the way, they always couch the debate about net zero in, in in terms of climate change because they don't want you to challenge their policy of net zero. but he was basically referring to net zero illegal migration. i see that his disclosure about cooperating, cooperating on illegal migration as his his preparing to us concede the position on their resettlement scheme that we discussed in the earlier part of the programme. in other words, taking illegal migrants from europe and settling them in the
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united kingdom. he talked about closer security cooperation in these uncertain times and that for me is the european defence union for and viewers who aren't familiar with this, the permanent structured cooperation that the eu champions and his established is not, people often say that's the equivalent that the european equivalent of nato. it'5 the european equivalent of nato. it's quite different to nato in one two significant senses. the first is that nato is the coming together of nation states, sovereign nation states, cooperating pesco will be under the control of brussels, and it prohibits any members of pesco from challenging eu foreign policy. so you come under the umbrella completely of what the eu wishes to do. that would be the subjugation of our armed forces. we would literally be giving up an independent defence of the united kingdom. that's why i say he's anti—british. so i see this as sure he may get a
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closer trading relationship. it'll come at large cost to our security, to a net zero, our economy. and of course, we'll be giving into their illegal migration, resettlement programme, the other thing he said that there wouldn't be a return to freedom of movement. he didn't once rule out the youth mobility scheme, by the way. he didn't rule it out. and thatis way. he didn't rule it out. and that is , that is freedom of that is, that is freedom of movement through the back door, because once you've established for the up to 30, all you have to do is move the age limit and you know, you're heading towards freedom of movement again. then he talked about us not going into the customs union and single market. part of the united kingdom is already in the single for market goods for the european union, which is northern ireland, which is why i carry this badge, because i've been fighting the irish sea border that puts northern ireland in the single market for goodsin ireland in the single market for goods in the european union . so goods in the european union. so i'm afraid i take no heart that
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this man is going to respect the vote of the british people to leave the european union, and the successive four elections that took place after that , that took place after that, reaffirming that that decision, he is taking us step by step back into the eu. >> what was fascinating when he was pushed on specific details repeatedly, even by friendly media people that like like the prospect of getting back into the eu on freedom of movement , the eu on freedom of movement, on youth mobility and on fishing, he got quite tetchy . fishing, he got quite tetchy. today wasn't about details. he was saying, well, why not? and particularly on fishing, when he was asked a very good question. can you categorically assure us that britain will not will hold the line on marine protection, on things like sand eels ? he on things like sand eels? he thought said well, we haven't got into those sort of details now this is more about deliverables anyway. some more word salad about putting in place milestones , keeping to place milestones, keeping to timetables a bit more like david brent than a than a prime minister, but was getting quite
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touchy on deliverables and wouldn't actually say no, no, no . wouldn't actually say no, no, no. these are red lines. i will protect the british fishing industry. he didn't say that. >> no he didn't. and it's protecting our british environment. you know the sand eels. i mentioned it in the earlier part . it's the way the earlier part. it's the way the europeans fish, you know, they dredge up the bottom of the sea and they kill the habitat in which these fish live. live. we used to catch , by the way, in used to catch, by the way, in this country, three tons of fish. 3000 tons of fish , sorry, fish. 3000 tons of fish, sorry, 3 million tonnes of fish. make my mind. i've got to get the numbers right. 3 million tonnes of fish in 1910. we now catch under a million. and that's because we've damaged the environment. that's right. they talk about the sustainability, the importance of sustainability, of the environment. we are damaging it repeatedly. and the european union is at the heart of it. repeatedly. and the european union is at the heart of it . and union is at the heart of it. and he wouldn't say no categorically to giving up our fish, so no, i took no heart from that. he talked about deliverables. there was not a single deliverable that he really focused on. >> and what i thought was also
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particularly embarrassing for the prime minister. he was asked again, even by friendly media, about those £6,000 of taylor swift tickets , because it was swift tickets, because it was breaking news that just came out. he'd agreed to pay only six grand was 107 grand, i thought, so the 101 grand is presumably okay, let's let's go into the detail of that at another point. but he was then saying, we need to draw up some principles. we promised to change politics. do you think it's embarrassing for a prime minister? this is the moment in brussels on the stage to represent british interests in europe. and he's being asked about the tawdry fact he was taking giveaways. not a good look. >> not not a good look and a very hypocritical look, given that they spent years and years rightly in my view, criticising the conservatives for the cronyism and self—enrichment and so on, that took place when they were in government, and they said they would change that. it's hardly been a few weeks since they won the general election, and he can't make an international appearance with other heads of state without being questioned over his
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£6,000. taylor swift tickets. it'5 £6,000. taylor swift tickets. it's not a good look for a british prime minister. >> superb stuff. so ben habib marks out of ten no four fs keir starmer. how confident are you that he's not going to roll back? he keeps saying no single market, no customs union, no freedom of movement. brexit will not be overturned. he keeps making all the right noises in broad terms. but do you think actually there's going to be a more sinister ratcheting back ? more sinister ratcheting back? >> martin we've heard this so many times. i mean, go back to nigel farage's debate with nick clegg in 2014. there will be no european army. well, they have a ten 000 strong frontex border force and they've got permanent structured cooperation. european defence union, a european defence fund for the development of interoperable weaponry. they're a full fledged state. that's why i say that anyone who wishes to get in with this project is basically anti—british, because you're anti —british, because you're getting anti—british, because you're getting into something that is run by brussels against the interests of the nation states,
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of its members, and certainly of the of the united kingdom. no, i take no heart from any of the dodging of questions that he did his little word salads to avoid actually making firm declarations, and to the extent he made any declarations, i don't believe him because they will do it and we will have a video. we'll have a clip of him making declarations that he won't do this, that and the other. we'll have that played back to us in five years time when he's done exactly that, it better be superb. >> thank you forjoining us in >> thank you for joining us in the studio. excellent. the guard dog of brexit, my fellow brexit party mep colleague ben habib. always a pleasure. thank you very very much. busy day in brussels now. lots more still to come between now and 6:00, including a former labour defence minister's reaction to what sir keir starmer just said in brussels. but first here's your headlines and it's cameron walker . walker. >> good afternoon. the top stories just after 5:30. and as you've been hearing, the prime minister has confirmed there
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will be no return to freedom of movement in any reset of relations between the uk and the european union. sir keir starmer has been speaking at a press conference in brussels in the last few minutes, where he is meeting european union chiefs with a promise to put the brexit years behind us and form a closer relationship with the bloc. it's his first visit to brussels as prime minister >> now, of course, there will be issues which are difficult to resolve and on areas on which we will stand firm , there will be will stand firm, there will be no return to freedom of movement , no return to freedom of movement, no return to freedom of movement, no return to the customs union, no return to the customs union, no return to the customs union, no return to the single market. but we will find constructive ways to work together and deliver for the british people well. >> meanwhile, sir keir starmer has paid back more than £6,000 worth of gifts and hospitality received since becoming prime minister. downing street has confirmed he's he's covering the costs of six taylor swift tickets for to the races and a clothing rental. agreements with
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a high end designer favoured by his wife, lady victoria starmer. it comes after sir keir and other cabinet members who vowed to clean up british politics, faced weeks of criticism for accepting tens of thousands of pounds worth of freebies from wealthy donors, donors . and it wealthy donors, donors. and it has actually been confirmed that labour peer at the centre of the row over donations to sir keir starmer is under investigation by the lords standards watchdog. lord waheed alli is accused of alleged non—registration of interests leading to a possible breach of the members code of conduct. a labour spokesperson says lord alli will cooperate fully with the lords commissioner and he is confident all interests have been registered. it is understood the investigation does not relate to donations, rather a clerical element of already declared interests . police in denmark interests. police in denmark have confirmed that an explosion outside the israeli embassy in copenhagen was caused by hand grenades. there are no injuries reported and it's too early to say how big the blasts had been, according to a police
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spokesperson . police in sweden, spokesperson. police in sweden, meanwhile, have also confirmed that loud bangs outside the israeli embassy in stockholm last night were the result of gunfire aiming at the building. meanwhile, there are fears in the middle east is on the cusp of an all out war after israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu swore that iran will pay netanyahu swore that iran will pay for the large scale missile attack, it has launched on israel. yesterday evening , and israel. yesterday evening, and conservative leadership candidates have reflected on their general election defeat in their general election defeat in their final speeches at the party's conference in birmingham . party's conference in birmingham. tom tugendhat, james cleverly robert jenrick and kemi badenoch are all appealing to members in their bids to replace rishi sunak. >> stand for cutting our bloated foreign aid budget and for spending 3% of gdp on our defence. >> a new political force has risen , something i have been risen, something i have been fighting all my political career. identity politics. >> we have to be better. much
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better. and under my leadership, we will be my mission is the prosperity and happiness of the british people. >> together we can win. >> together we can win. >> well, those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm cameron wahaca more in half an hour for the very latest gb news to direct your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gb news. >> .com. forward slash
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>> welcome back. your time is 538. i'm martin daubney here on gb news now. we've just heard from keir starmer who's been in brussels today as part of his so—called reset with the european union. speaking to journalists, he finally declared that there will be no return to freedom of movement, although he wouldn't be drawn on the youth
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mobility scheme. let's now get the thoughts of the former labour minister ivor kaplan. ivor welcome to the show. always a pleasure. so you were listening in there, no doubt with bated breath. we are expecting some detail that was thin on the ground. what was your take on sir keir starmer's utterances in brussels? >> i was about to say hello to you , martin, and then i realised you, martin, and then i realised ineeded you, martin, and then i realised i needed to listen to it as well, so actually there wasn't very much to say, was there? >> that's that's the point . and very much to say, was there? >> that's that's the point . and >> that's that's the point. and i and i'm not surprised that >> that's that's the point. and i and i'm not surprised that he's made sure that with, with he's made sure that with, with young people, i think that's the young people, i think that's the key area now the under 30s as to key area now the under 30s as to how we can at least do something how we can at least do something in the future. and i think that in the future. and i think that will come in a in a way that the will come in a in a way that the that much to say, was there? parties will need to do. and i parties will need to do. and i think that's why the think that's why the conversation today with, with conversation today with, with ursula and everything else was ursula and everything else was really quite important. i think really quite important. i think it's not happened before in the it's not happened before in the three and a bit months. so it's three and a bit months. so it's
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good for the party to have had good for the party to have had that conversation as a starting point . point. >> and yet, ivor, sir keir starmer was saying no return to the single market or the customs union or freedom of movement, but was repeatedly pushed by even friendly journalists on this youth mobility scheme. and again , before today, mr starmer again, before today, mr starmer made it perfectly clear that he wants to open up the continent, wants to open up the continent, wants to open up the continent, wants to open up britain to the european union, potentially millions of under 30s, but wouldn't be drawn on that today. why won't you give us any detail? why is he hiding? >> i don't think he's hiding at all, martin. you know, look , all, martin. you know, look, this is the. this will be something that i think is now being dealt with by number 10 and by keir and by the by the obviously the cabinet. and they'll be looking at all the details. you can't do this . i details. you can't do this. i know i've said this before and i'm sure your viewers will start to get bored if i keep saying it, but you can't just do it all
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in, in one hit. it's just not how it works . government doesn't how it works. government doesn't work like that. never has. we both know that anyway. and but, but i think there is a desire amongst labour. labour supporters. definitely. and i think probably conservative supporters that we should have some youth arrangement with the, with, with the with brussels and i think that's probably where we will get to in time, but it's not going to happen quickly . not going to happen quickly. >> you say that labour voters might want it and they might. it wasn't in the manifesto. it wasn't in the manifesto. it wasn't pledged at all. it's come from nowhere. after the event . from nowhere. after the event. so nobody got the chance to vote on this. it's been plucked out of a hat after the event, a bit like the winter fuel allowance being axed. that wasn't in the manifesto either. so you say that people might want it saying that people might want it saying that conservative voters want it, i think is extraordinary. we
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had four people today. potential leaders set out their stall ehheh leaders set out their stall either, and they all said that controlling borders was paramount. and the conservative party, i think, would be insane to appoint somebody who wanted something like freedom of movement for under 30s something like freedom of movement for under 305 because, you know, there are millions and millions of people, 18 to 30 in the european union . we, we have the european union. we, we have a paucity of people prepared to do jobs in britain because they're on benefits. the answer isn't to import more people from the 30 in from the eu. the answer is to get people off benefits and into jobs. >> i didn't think it was about that. i think it was more about what what young people want to do in terms of understanding that what they were able to do up until 2020, you're not allowed to do at the moment in the same way. but i just i just think that that's that's where thatis think that that's that's where that is going. and i think it's been like that for a while, and i don't think it's really a surprise. >> he was pushed as well, sir keir starmer on fishing, something that was on the table
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before, today. you know, the details on fishing, the rights, the fishing rights of the access of european union fleets to british waters are up for grabs. renegotiation in 2026, as explained with ben habib, my previous guest, i went through the withdrawal agreement, you know, for my sins and it's set in stone. ivor caplin if we want to row back on fishing, as in make those waters more sovereign, more british, we'll have to surrender something to the eu. so there's only going to go one way, and that is giving the eu more access to british waters. and many people see that as yet more of a betrayal of brexit, >> well , i'm, brexit, >> well, i'm, i'm a remainer, so i don't know whether i'm the person to make comment on this , person to make comment on this, look, the so, so for example, ivor, as a as a former labour minister, if you were in government now, would , would government now, would, would surrendering more rights to british waters to the european union be a price you'd be prepared to pay ? i think if, if,
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prepared to pay? i think if, if, if that was the case, i would want to see all of the information before we got anywhere close to that . and i, anywhere close to that. and i, i think this the, the fishing issue is going to have to be deau issue is going to have to be dealt with in 2026, i think. isn't it . yeah, and if that's isn't it. yeah, and if that's the case, you know, there's going to have to be quite a lot of work in the next few months leading up to, to, to those , leading up to, to, to those, those conversations. and i think we should have those conversations. i think for, even for the, for the fishing people who've been saying very constantly, if you go to cornwall or other places, you know, they're complaining about the fact that they don't have what they would be expecting to see. so let's get it all out and get it, get it ready and then see what everyone says. and i think there is there is a case for having that kind of approach towards the future, because that's what we're we're trying to do . to do. >> but but ivor cameron, the reason that the fishing communities in britain are saying they weren't given what
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they wanted is because we didn't get a proper brexit for our fishing communities. those quotas, they were bodged by boris. there wasn't taking back control of our sovereign waters, and that left the door open for sir keir starmer to go back and give even more away. that's the point. >> well, i was about to talk about boris and what he he gave to the united kingdom. but you're right. if you look at what happened in 2016 with the actual , vote what happened in 2016 with the actual, vote and then what happenedin actual, vote and then what happened in 2020, there is quite a big difference between those two things and i think it's fair to say that there was no real understanding of what was going to happen in, in 2020 onwards. and i think that's the mess that we are in, and we're going to have to find a way out of it, in particular on fishing , because particular on fishing, because in 2026 we have to have that. those conversations with the eu
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andivoh those conversations with the eu and ivor, can i quickly ask you about the fact that this was this was keir starmer's big day in brussels as a stand up, serious leader. >> he was getting asked about six grands worth of taylor swift tickets, even by friendly media. it'5 tickets, even by friendly media. it's a terribly embarrassing look , isn't it? look, isn't it? >> well it is, i was i was along the looking of all the all the sort of prime ministers etcetera , sort of prime ministers etcetera, etcetera who've done this. i see that david cameron was getting some grief as well in the last few days about some clothes that he had. i think we should just start to stop this and move on. you know , everyone knows that you know, everyone knows that there's clothes and all that sort of thing . let's just get on sort of thing. let's just get on with the important parts of
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“m“ were with the important parts of m“ were you with the important parts of “m“ were you when we where were you when we were getting high? sorry, but they did tell me to sing. oasis fans , did tell me to sing. oasis fans, apparently, are secretly buried drugs in heaton park ahead of their massive manchester comeback gig. you've got to admire their gumption. if nothing else, i martin daubney on gb news fryston news
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channel. >> i was looking for some channel. >> i was looking for some action. action. >> sorry. welcome back. it's >> sorry. welcome back. it's 550. i'm martin daubney on gb 550. i'm martin daubney on gb news now. oasis fans are news now. oasis fans are apparently burying their drugs apparently burying their drugs in a park ten months ahead of in a park ten months ahead of the band's big reunion gigs. the band's big reunion gigs. they've been boasting to drugs they've been boasting to drugs counsellors, of all people. counsellors, of all people. they've hidden their stashes in they've hidden their stashes in manchester's heaton park. got manchester's heaton park. got to
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say, this may be a laugh. and here's a man who enjoyed the story too. james mcmahon, host of the james mcmahon music podcast. i'm so sorry to inflict my terrible singing on you, but nevertheless, you've got to say one thing about the drug dealers of manchester. they know about forward planning . forward planning. >> they do. i feel this
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forward planning. >> theyhumanael this forward planning. >> theyhuman hybrids. and i'm squirrel human hybrids. and i'm for it. this whole story has made me feel very proud to be british, because, of course, it's an outdoor park. >> they know where the gig is going to be, and locals have been and they've used their testimony to just how difficult it is to hathey've kind testimony to just how difficult it is to hathey've used their gumption and look, no worries, been and they've used their gumption and look, no worries, nobody is saying this is a good nobody is saying this is a good idea. but of all things, jemmy idea. but of all things, jemmy the local drug addicts have been the local drug addicts have been telling their counsellors that telling their counsellors that they're going to bury their they're going to bury their statues. not the smartest thing statues. not the smartest thing the sniffer dogs might be out in the sniffer dogs might be out in force. got a quick minute, jim? force. got a quick minute, jim? >> yeah, i'll be honest. you >> yeah, i'll be honest. you know, like the amount of times know, like the amount of times i've been to festivals and, you i've been to festivals and, you know, as the years have gone on, know, as the years have gone on, they've become. they've become they've become. they've become much heavier policed. i don't much heavier policed. i don't think the idea of the free, think the idea of the free, festivals aren't what they used festivals aren't what they used to be like. people know what to be like. people know what happens at these things. so i do happens at these things. so i do feel like, again, not saying feel like, again, not saying it's a great idea, but i do feel it's a great idea, but i do feel like this enterprising nature is like this enterprising nature is testimony to just how difficult testimony to just how difficult
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it is to have that kind it is to have that kind of, carry on, if that makes sense . carry on, if that makes sense. >> okay, super. so jim mcmahon always a pleasure to see you, and i hope you get a ticket for the gig. i haven't yet, mate. best of luck with that. always a pleasure. let's cross. now back to brussels as gb news political correspondent. olivia utley . and correspondent. olivia utley. and you asked the question to keir starmer. tell us about your question. and were you happy with the answer ? with the answer? >> yes. i asked keir starmer firstly about the details of this new reset relationship with the eu. he claimed that he would be to talking ursula von der euanne be to talking ursula von der elianne opening discussions, but there would be no return to freedom of movement. i asked him about fishing. would he consider giving the eu access to uk fishing waters? he said he wouldn't be drawn on that. well, that's something in the past that's something in the past that he said he would be very, very reluctant to do, and rightly so , given how many rightly so, given how many fishing and coastal communities in the uk voted for brexit precisely because they did not
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want the eu to have access to british fishing waters? i also asked him about that £6,000 that he has now paid back for some of the donations that he's received in the last few years. i asked him, will he be thinking of paying him, will he be thinking of paying back any more? he wouldn't be drawn on that one ehheh wouldn't be drawn on that one either. he said that there's going to be a new principle in place for ministers accepting donations. so in the meantime
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honour critic. >> there will be a light breeze in the morning leading to a warm front . boxed heat pumps, front. boxed heat pumps, sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello. good afternoon and welcome to your gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. well, we've got a cold night ahead with some frost and fog in places, but as we head into tomorrow, plenty of fine and settled for weather many. the south will have to wait though for that as we head into this afternoon. still plenty of cloud here as low pressure dominates, but as high pressure builds from the north, that's bringing us that fine and settled weather. as i say though, as we head into this evening, there will still be some cloud across the south and southeast, and still a few showers feeding into some east and southeastern coasts, but these will generally ease away as we head overnight, and this leaves plenty of clear skies overnight as well, so it is going to be turning cold, and we're likely to see some fog, particularly in northern rural spots, and likely to see some frost by the time we wake up tomorrow as well . so to start tomorrow as well. so to start tomorrow, as i say, most of that
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cloud generally breaking through the course of the night, but still some showers just feeding in to the south—east coast still by the time we reach tomorrow morning. but elsewhere , plenty morning. but elsewhere, plenty of clear skies, so plenty of fog patches in places and it will be feeling chilly with some frost in places too, but generally largely dry just away from those showers. just feeding into the southeast coast tomorrow as well. we've got high pressure building and that means generally a better day for all. largely dry and settled with plenty of sunny spells around , plenty of sunny spells around, as i say. still the odd shower just moving into the southeast coast , but just moving into the southeast coast, but you'll probably be unlucky if you catch any of those generally dry just perhaps a build of higher cloud just moving into western parts of scotland, northern ireland later on into the afternoon, but with much lighter winds, generally feeling more pleasant where you do catch the sunshine as we head into the evening as well. that cloud will continue to build in the west. perhaps some light rain here at times, but overall generally another dry night. plenty of clear spells , so more
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was that the right move for us? and what do you think the consequences of some of this stuff will be for us here in this country? also, given that there's so much talk now about there's so much talk now about the potential for another war. how self—reliant are we when it comes to things like energy? do you think we've got our strategy right here in this country or not? also today, the tory leadership contenders gave their
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