when he is sentenced. prison when he is sentenced. he's today entered his plea dunng he's today entered his plea during an appearance in a court in los angeles. he's one of five people charged in connection with perry's death, two of which are scheduled to go on trial in march. perry died at the age of 54 last october. and finally, the king has been showing off his dance moves tonight ahead of his dance moves tonight ahead of his trip to samoa for the commonwealth heads of governments meeting later this month . holac well, it was a month. holac well, it was a guest at his majesty's commonwealth reception who successfully persuaded him to join in a samoan dance lesson the king and queen were hosting around 300 guests at saint james's palace in london, including the singer grace jones, the strictly judge motsi mabuse and the rugby player theo mcfarland . and i suspect i'll be mcfarland. and i suspect i'll be reporting on a lot more of his majesty's moves in a few weeks time. that's it from me for now. now it's time for headliners for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to

news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> hello and welcome to headliners. it's your first look at thursday's top news stories with three comedians. i'm andrew doyle. that's one of the comedians. and joining me tonight are two headliners favourites pretty boy steve n allen and hired for his rugged good looks nick the big dog dixon , are you both. dixon, are you both. >> well i'm looking forward to a very positive show because it's been a difficult day and i want something to cheer me up. so are you going to be all jolly and you've hired the wrong man.7 have you've hired the wrong man? have you've hired the wrong man? have you never met me before? yeah. you're very miserable and cantankerous, aren't you? >> the intros are very positive. i'm an upbeat guy, andrew. >> yes. maybe put a bit more energy into the delivery of those lines. >> no, i'm really just. just a happy 90 >> no, i'm really just. just a happy go lucky. easygoing chilled out entertainer. >> you are very chill, very chilled out. and we're going to

prove it in this show. let's see what happens. okay. well first we're going to look at the front pages. thursday's daily telegraph leads with uk forces not up to defending israelis. the i has got israel vows rapid revenge strike on iran. the guardian also with that story us warns israel we won't support attacks on iranian nuclear sites. the daily express has security chiefs fear rise in terror attacks in uk. the daily mail is running with starmer coughs up six grand to pay for his freebies . and finally, the his freebies. and finally, the daily star has some nonsense about sandwiches. and those were your front pages . okay, we're your front pages. okay, we're going to take a probing look at the front pages. now we're going to start with thursday's daily mail. and steve has got the deets we should mention at the top the you know, what's inside this this amazing story i told my husband to choose between me and his bossy mother. he chose her. yeah, but you said. i told him so. he was choosing between

two bossy outfits. absolutely, absolutely. but very little difference between it. >> but the main headline. >> but the main headline. >> starmer coughs up £6,000 to pay >> starmer coughs up £6,000 to pay for his freebies. yes, i saw that and i thought, pay for his freebies. yes, i saw that and i thought , well, that's that and i thought, well, that's that and i thought, well, that's that solved that isn't it? this story is going to go away. that's very much dealt with it, the thinking is they're trying to bring in some new rules about the way that this is all policed, and you're saying you've got to clear the decks, got to make sure it's all sorted. yes, i mean, true, but you know, what would have been more true is to think i'm the guy standing on the platform of very much being against sleaze and corruption. yes. why don't i take no freebies from i. no freebies. we all like freebies. thank you. captain hindsight, but maybe at the time he was just too tempted by the taylor swift tickets. i mean, come on, who would. who would say no to that? you'd be mad. i don't know, i think i mean, i didn't go and i survived. you're all right, are you? yeah. okay. but, nick, you're a huge taylor swift fan. i mean, you must understand where starmer was coming from. >> fan of the music, not the politics. is that right? yes, yes. and in fact, the politics is so bad i might even just

throw the music in the metaphorical bin, separate the art from the artist. spotify. shake it off. i have to throw my actual phone. oh, i see you. i can't even extend. but there's a line, isn't there? p diddy might be the line. maybe. where is the line? great >> let's have a look at starmer. because you know. yes. is it good enough. good point. well i'm just saying because it is the, you know, the story. the story. yeah, it is the story. and we have a job to do. do you not think is it, is it enough now at this point to just give back the money and say and pretend it never happened? >> no, it's not enough. and it's amazing. he didn't do it earlier. really? because he was so much pressure. and to be honest, i've never really minded gifts that much. it's the hypocrisy, a sort of, i'm paraphrasing, an old norm macdonald show, but it is the hypocrisy that bothers me more because i think politicians are underpaid, so i don't actually mind gifts that much. but what i mind gifts that much. but what i mind is, of course, it's relentless going on about tory cronyism. and then just does this himself and then didn't see any problem with it. and i think also this shows they are worried about popularity because he's sort of been above the fray. so it's like he doesn't care about

what anyone says. like i've got my majority, i don't care. but this shows they do care and they will buckle under pressure. and also i think the way it's been covered reveals a kind of underlying hatred for this labour party. the media has kind of gone after him. there hasn't been this honeymoon period we had with blair. no, i think no one actually likes this government. it was just kind of waiting to get them. >> well, the polls are very bad even among traditional labour voters. people people really want him to stand down, don't they? do you think that just on a pr level, the fact that it was taylor swift is going to save him? you know, if it had been ed sheeran, might this be a bit more unforgivable? yeah, he'd have been gone by now. exactly. that's what taylor swift effect. yeah. unbelievable. and the idea of the boxer. whichever. football. i'm not into football, but i can kind of. >> i know what people who like football are like. >> is it arsenal? i've seen football people. no wonder. of course, he'd bite someone's hand off at some free football because he wants to box. rather because he wants to box. rather because if you don't have the box you have to stand in. what are they called? the rows? the stands? yes. or the terraces? >> paid for the box. anticipating this, have he really thought he was going to win? yes, of course. he's quite a high profile figure anyway. why not just pay for a box ahead of time? yeah. >> no. okay, well, some some

thoughts there. we're going to move on to the express now nick, what has the express got on thursday's front cover? >> maybe you're not allowed to just pay for a box. the express has security chiefs fear rise in terror attacks in uk. and this comes from the community security trust, which is a charity looking out for the safety of jewish people. and they're very concerned with the october seventh anniversary approaching that this, combined with the ongoing situation in the middle east, will lead to attacks on british jewish people. and it seems of course, fairly likely given or very possible, given the kind of scenes we've seen on the streets over the last few years. >> well, i mean, it's not rocket science that happens a lot. you know, whenever there's international conflicts, you get the terror level tends to rise. yeah. >> especially if you filled your country with people who identify more with other countries and then who are backed up by far left people who don't actually commit the terrorist acts, but just celebrate them on twitter. yes. >> controversial. do you think nick's right? do you know what i'm going to i'm going to quote simon evans, but i listened to him on a different podcast, not on this show. he was saying an interesting thing. he does other things. >> i think this is a podcast. >> i think this is a podcast. >> the it used to be, didn't it,

he pointed out that when it comes to this particular issue, it's the only the only one where if israel do some sort of attack, there'll be some anti—semitism increase . yes. and anti—semitism increase. yes. and if people attack israel, there's an anti—semitism increase. yes. you can't win either way. all kind of filters into that. yes. there was a spike in anti—semitism after the pogrom on october the 7th. yeah. so they absolutely there is absolutely nothing they can do in this situation. so i mean, like the headlines, right? you read the story, it just says increase vigilance. that's also the only thing we can do. well, seems sensible enough to me. we're going to move on to the front cover of thursday's telegraph. what have they got. they've got a story. £1 billion fleet of trains in sidings. as unions whined about the wipers. the wipers aren't the right size. that seems valid. so we can just quickly move on to uk forces. nope, not up to defending israelis. this. the first couple of paragraphs are so upsetting. so the raf typhoon jet fighters are thought to lack the firepower needed ? yes, sir. the firepower needed? yes, sir. ben wallace said that the uk's type 45 anti—missile destroyers would struggle to respond. the royal navy carrier strike groups

do not have enough sailors. how about we don't say this out loud because they're going to think of invading us now? sure, i'd invade us now and probably get away with it , but at least we away with it, but at least we now we're reminded we have a navy. i thought we'd got rid of that ages ago. but the thing is about that. i mean, we do need some sort of i mean, last night, was it not the case that in the iran bombardment against israel the other night, that it was there was a us interception going on when they have a higher technology even than the iron dome? yes. i mean, yes, this is simply saying that we aren't going to be that much use, but we're not being asked. no. well, we're not being asked. no. well, we're not being asked. no. well, we're not that much use, are we? and our navy and our military has been depleted for a number of years now. was that a mistake, nick? >> yeah, it's a bit embarrassing. i mean, number one, i agree with steve. i was going to say the same thing. there's a balance between raising the alarm and raising funding and admitting to the world that we can't do anything. yes. so that's a bit of a problem. but. but i see why he's doing it. wallace and the other thing is it is a bit embarrassing. we've only been able to be assist the us is all we can do now. it's basically all right. you guys come along. we're just coming along for like, the kind of fake gold star, like the participation trophy. we're not really doing

anything that is embarrassing. >> adaptors. i think that's probably what happens. right we can help. that's a two pin thing. the three pin. >> yeah. we've got the plugs but and we invented the language. but the other thing is do we really want to be a kind of a military power. this is what we have to think about as well. you know, we're a poor country now. we've got so many problems of our own domestically. do we want to be is it is it better to like, double down and try and be switzerland and just focus on banking or are only our best? our best industry is financial services. why not just become switzerland and say we don't care about the world? >> we can't do chocolate. i mean, you just the comparison isn't even there. >> well, we've got financial services. yes, quite . we've got services. yes, quite. we've got fish and chips, quite cold weather. yes we like tennis. >> we do quite like tennis, croquet. some people like that. >> skiing. people like it. yeah. i don't like it. >> i mean, look, i think we need in a sense, i think it's probably a good idea to have a sound security services anyway, but i think maybe one of the reasons why wallace is making this point is to try and get more money. yeah. of course. well, that's fair enough, isn't it? i was just going to say the swiss army have the knives.

that's true, didn't they? didn't they sell a version of the swiss army knife without the knife ? army knife without the knife? yes. that's available. >> they never used it. there's always neutral, but they just like. oh we've got the best knife, but we're not going to get involved. >> they came out with one of those. if they did, that's why no one messes with it. >> if they ever rose up with those there. >> no, they can open bottles quicker than any other army. so you know, scary stuff. we're going to move on now to the daily star. let's get this over with. nick, what's going on? >> no, this is important, andrew. it's line of duty stars sahni torment. and this is anna maxwell martin. and i've never watched his show because i believe it's on the bbc. of course, i would never watch as i'd be a traitor. course, i would never watch as i'd be a traitor . but she won't i'd be a traitor. but she won't have sandwiches anywhere on set. and you sort of understand, like, you know, you're working with a louis shaffer, only eats raw meat, doesn't brush his teeth. you go, okay, that's. i can understand that having a problem with that sandwiches seems very mainstream. she can't be near an open fridge. this seems like a real problem. she says it stems from her pregnancy when everything was making her feel sick. so i have some sympathy there. and she compared it to a friend who said they couldn't take the chewing of gum. but that's actually a condition because i knew someone

that had that. that's misophonia, which is a thing this i don't think is a thing. fear of sandwiches. she's got fear. >> it's a phobia of sandwiches, a phobia of sandwiches and open fridges stemming from her difficult pregnancy where she was accosted by sandwiches. well, i don't want to sound unsympathetic, but it sounds like a bunch of nonsense . yeah. like a bunch of nonsense. yeah. i mean, when are you ever going to. well, i'm just pregnant. >> why do you hate. >> why do you hate. >> i don't hate pregnant women. i want to establish that right now. it does, however, remind me of the scene in young sherlock holmes when watson hallucinates an open fridge and a bunch of a eclairs come out and try and kill him. >> she cited mayonnaise as a way to go . to go. >> sorry, i'd say take the sandwich, open it up. you've got two pizzas. stop moaning. you know it's about how you perceive the world. so this misophonia thing, i. i think, you know, the people who don't like the sound of other people chewing, they need to be told it's not all about you. other people need to eat. yeah, they need to stop moaning about chewing. is never going to sound graceful. yeah, it's something that has to be done. stop being so aggressive about mastication. that would be my suggestion. okay. >> well pronounced.

>> well pronounced. >> i pronounced it perfectly. so those are the front pages out of the way. do join us in part two for updates from the tory party conference. shocking news from the tavistock clinic yet again and we find out what, 17 years old that really shouldn't be. i don't know what that sentence means, but said it anyway. see you in two.

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lucky things. we're going to be looking at thursday's newspapers. i'm andrew doyle, i'm still joined by steve n allen. and the big dog. so we're going to begin this section with thursday's guardian. kemi badenoch would like to see prisons even more crowded. steve. yep. some civil servants so bad they should be in prison. gosh, says kemi . well, kemi, gosh, says kemi. well, kemi, technically civil servants include people who work in prisons, so they are. it's not the strongest takedown i've ever done on this show. no brought some weak. you need more trash talk.i some weak. you need more trash talk. i googled your armoury. the so at the tory party conference, one of those fringe events. she said that some of them leak secrets and undermine ministers. we all know that that is the job of other ministers like them getting involved . now, like them getting involved. now, people will always say, even on shows like this , oh, it's the shows like this, oh, it's the blob in it. oh, we know what the blob in it. oh, we know what the blob is like. but the general secretary of the fda union, dave penman, says this. i'm going to read the quote i think it's great. these are serious accusations from a former secretary of state if she has evidence to back up those claims, she should publish it. otherwise withdraw the statement. there's nothing wrong in that sentence. that's absolutely bang on. it seems fair enough. and if it's true

that, oh, we all know what the blobs like, she must be swimming in evidence to bring it. or maybe we start thinking about how much of a convenience thing it is to blame the civil servants. two things, though, steve. i mean, for one thing, dave penman, this guy who said this, he may regret that because i imagine she does actually have quite a lot of evidence of this sort of stuff. and i also imagine it's not the sort of thing she would have said without having some basis for it. i mean, i know that kemi badenoch has talked before about being obstructed by civil servants in quite an ideological way. and she definitely has evidence for that. but the other thing is this was she not joking a little bit? i mean, the phrase the quote here says , oh, there's the quote here says, oh, there's about 5 to 10% of them who are very, very bad. you know , should very, very bad. you know, should be in prison. bad sounds a bit like a quip, is that not am i misreading that, nick? no i think i think that's reasonable. >> i didn't actually see this part. i have watched a lot of the conference. you at the conference? maybe she was on stage. yeah, maybe you're making a joke. it's exaggeration. it's like that guy who said, i'm not saying it's exactly the same when he said diane abbott should should be shot or something. it's not literal. this doesn't

seem literal to me. she's just saying that they're awful. i was surprised it was as low as 10%, frankly, given what the blobs like . yeah, and this is the kind like. yeah, and this is the kind of thing this is , this is pure of thing this is, this is pure kemi. so this is the bluntness that i like from her, which is one of her selling points. she's an engineer. she keeps saying she's just tells it like it is, but also it makes things politically difficult for her because now she's gonna have to if she wins, or even if she doesn't win, she has to continue working with these people. yes. and now they all hate her even more. >> well, let me just ask you, steve, a bit further about the blob. i mean, the point is, though, that there is quite a lot of evidence of and there have been a number of whistleblowers from the civil service who say that that it is ideologically captured, that a significant proportion of the civil service don't implement the job they're meant to. they don't implement what the ministers tell them to for partisan reasons. so there is a problem. yeah. and it's a it's a problem. yeah. and it's a it's a problem. it's a their problem. if you're in charge of this, get it fixed. in the 14 years that you just had or the interview that i heard, liz truss do, it really informed. why. because she's been speaking for ages about how the, you know, the blob part of the thing this this

conspiracy against her and when she was pushed on it, the only example she could come up with is they drag their heels and implementing things. no, there's a lot more in the articles i've read from whistleblowers. well, you know, she was only there for 49 days. yeah. to be fair, listen to stephen edgerton's pieces on on them saying that farage should be assaulted and things like that. >> these are beliefs that go around in the civil service. when you say 14 years to fix it. not that simple. as people like dominic cummings have pointed out, it's very hard to actually sack a lot of these people. you don't have the power to sack them, is it, nick? >> i mean, because i often think, you know, they always talk about the bonfire of the quangos and they never actually light the fuse, i think just blow the whole thing up. >> yeah. cummings has said he said something like a minister can only sack three people or something. there's all these, you know, rules with byzantine complexity in terms of actually getting rid of really. it's not so easy. you can just go in and clear them out or it would have been done by now. >> yeah, maybe. okay. well, i will defer to your judgement. i know very little about it. we're going to move on now to this terrible story in the daily mail. nick, you've got the details on this. >> yeah. this is psychologist, 53, who works at tavistock clinic, remains free to practice despite being caught grooming a

schoolboy, 15, for sex in a park. and it's as bad as it sounds. this is doctor ross kennard, and he was entrusted to treat youngsters mental health as lead psychologist at the tavistock and portman nhs foundation trust, which we've heard so much about . foundation trust, which we've heard so much about. but he was caught by a group of hunters because this is the kind of dystopia we have now. when law enforcement fails , you have to enforcement fails, you have to just have roaming hunters because you've got roaming , apparently. >> vigilantes. >> vigilantes. >> exactly. and they caught him. but actually aside from that, he has pled guilty. yeah yeah. on july 29th to attempting to meet a child following sexual grooming. the child clearly said he was 15, but they met anyway for sex in a park and he was sacked by tavistock. but he's still he's not been suspended by the regulator, so he still remains free to practice his insanity. so i mean the tavistock has not been covered in glory recently . in glory recently. >> it's been utterly disgraced, following the cass review, forced to shut down. we hear all sorts of terrible things about the institutional homophobia there and all of the problems, you know. well, this is a group that were medicalizing kids

because they weren't gender conforming. you know, so not a great place to work for a start . great place to work for a start. whistleblowers ignored left, right and centre ideological capture. the lot, but this is surely, i mean , steve, i can't surely, i mean, steve, i can't imagine you're going to give a contrary position on this, but if you have been if you have found guilty, well, actually pleaded guilty to a paedophilic act , or at pleaded guilty to a paedophilic act, or at least intending to meet up with a young person under the age of consent, he should never work with children again. it should be a no brainer. i'm not going to disagree with that. the only pushback, i would say, is the tavistock did suspend him. they sacked him and they sacked. and so in terms of height of bar, that's so low. that bar is yeah. it's the kind of thing that holds carpet down. you know one of those bars. i'm not blaming the tavistock for him by the way. i'm just saying that this is adding to this litany. this is adding to this litany. this is the council. >> can you blame them for hiring him in the first place? perhaps. >> but they wouldn't have known this. but this is the health and care professional council, though. if you go on their website and they're there to try and make sure that they they only have on their books the proper non. i mean , this is the proper non. i mean, this is the case, not only is he working with children, but working with

vulnerable children. so it's all doubled up there. yes. the health and care profession council said this has been forwarded to the relevant department for their attention. so at least now they've sent an email about it. so at least now they've sent an email about it . well, maybe email about it. well, maybe they'll rethink this. following they'll rethink this. following the publicity . so you would hope the publicity. so you would hope so. okay. we're going to move on now to a bombshell in the express. steve, you got this number of tory members wanting merger with farage. as reform revealed in bombshell poll. we can't use that word enough, can we? really kind of excites every. it makes every headline sound more exciting because this this is a survey of 470 people. yes, that's less exciting than bombshell poll. yes, more than half , 53% of those 470 people of half, 53% of those 470 people of conservative members want the party to merge. i mean, i'm not sure why most reform mps say no. all the people running to be tory leaders say no. they would hate each other so much . but hate each other so much. but like abbott and costello. but this was a survey for the liz truss right wing populist popular conservatism group. oh, so now she'll listen to the opinions of other people, but i mean, look , i'm not sure it mean, look, i'm not sure it would be the wisest of moves in

terms of general election. yeah, you get all the reform votes back, but you would be risking the big lump of people in the centre ground who wouldn't vote for you. if you're trying to win a general election and appeal to the nation, that's that's one thing. meanwhile, nigel farage says he doesn't want to merge with the tories. and this is a man who said he wouldn't stand in the election and is now the mp for clacton. so he's a man of his word, is what i'm saying. >> and your esteemed colleague you left out there, nick, i mean, you know, you predicted that farage would be leader of the tory party. >> they call you a nostradamus . >> they call you a nostradamus. yeah. don't they, or dixons? yeah. don't they, or dixons? yeah. it doesn't really work, does it? listen i think that you had a point and maybe this is edging towards your worldview. yeah. >> i said in 2029 it will happen. and it looked impossible. but maybe it could happen.though impossible. but maybe it could happen. though farage does deny it as steve just said, something's got to happen because we're going to get labour again. so are we a strategic? well, everyone hates laboun strategic? well, everyone hates labour, but unless you do something, the next election i believe is going to be very strategic. look at all those independent candidates that popped up independent candidates that popped up and basically said, i hate israel and almost won. so it's going to be about strategic. it's going to be about strategy, seat by seat ,

about strategy, seat by seat, which is how labour did so well. partly there were these unofficial sort of alliances and so on. i think reform and tories have to do that because people wanted the tories to be destroyed. some people zero seats, etc. given that that didn't happen, i don't think it's going to happen. and given that neither of them is going to back down the only way to avoid labour winning again is to be strategic and do something like that.in strategic and do something like that. in my opinion, unless they sort it out by then. but it's interesting. at the conference, kemi said that reform are not a serious party. she said she's looked at their manifesto. she doesn't think they're serious. she said she respects the voters because they are tory people and she's on the doorstep, but she thinks the party are not serious. she thinks they're too pro state intervention and it kind of it kind of difference emerged in that conference. every tory was talking about small state and thatcherism and reform, even though farage is seen as a kind of thatcherite now start to see more like sort of they're prepared to do more state intervention, maybe part of the sort of more of the natcon kind of. right. so the distinction starts to emerge, something probably does have to happen, doesn't it? >> but, i mean, i just wonder >> but, i mean, ijust wonder whether it is i mean, the starmer's numbers are tanking , starmer's numbers are tanking, you know, and as you say, nick,

everyone wanted to punish the tories last time. and so is it just the case that we can have these massive swings from one massive majority to the other, massive majority to the other, massive majority, until eventually in about 20 years time, people will realise both parties are a waste of time and they'll all vote for the sdp and we'll live happily ever after. if you want to cash in on that though, you have to be stood ready to catch those centre ground voters who are going to be like, i'm appalled by the tate tickets. if you want to get those, there's no point moving further to the right and then not being able to catch those voters when they become available. >> it doesn't work that it's tacking to the centre thing. it just doesn't work well. it worked for labour, for the tories. it hasn't worked if you look at it. jacob rees—mogg is very good on this. he went through historically and pointed out it hasn't worked. actually, conviction politicians is more like thatcher have actually done better. so i don't believe in. >> so you need tories to go to the right. correct. okay, we'll see what happens. we're going to move on now to the independent. the home office deserves a visit from the guinness world records. people nick. >> yeah. this is oldest asylum claim is nearly 17 years old. home office records show . so home office records show. so i mean this is mad. this was there's also another 19 cases

between 10 and 16.5 years old. so this was a guy who was being reviewed. i don't know if it even says guy, but we can imagine because he they were trying to figure out if he'd been involved with war crimes and crimes against humanity, and i might say, if it takes you 17 years to figure out the nuance of whether he's actually done war crimes, maybe we don't need this person in the country anyway. it's not the death penalty where it has to be absolutely bang on. it's like we've got an overcrowded country anyway. maybe we don't take the war crimes, the maybe war crimes people. >> yeah, maybe that would be a good shortcut. yeah, just an idea. just filter out the potential war crimes. >> and there are other cases where prisoners were serving life sentences. another was a convicted sex offender. so we're just letting in or taking ages to decide about these awful people. >> and what a terrible headline. the independent's oldest asylum claim is nearly 17 years old. it sounds like they're saying the oldest asylum claimant is a 17 is almost 17 year old. yeah, just badly phrased, but that's the independent for you. what do you think of that this steve. well my favourite bit is it says in some cases these people are in some cases these people are in jail overseas or deceased. i could speed up your system for

you. yeah, the deceased ones. let's just get rid of them. let's just get rid of them. let's say no because they're not going to go to appeal overseas already. not here. feels like you've done the job already. in jail and actually in jail is the interesting one. that's why it's taken 17 years. they've not been sat around going war crimes though. and it is that you can't you can't follow through on processing these while people are in prison. it's just mad bureaucracy, basically. >> my idea was funny though , but >> my idea was funny though, but not accurate. >> not true. yeah. >> not true. yeah. >> although the deceased ones are less what i'm going for. the deceased ones won't commit crimes at least that's. let's have those. we'll take the deceased. yeah, but we'll get rid of the rest. yeah. solve a lot of our problems, okay? they could work in the civil service. they'd do just as good a job. anyway, we're going to close this section with thursday's telegraph. now, robert jenrick talking tough. who's got this world and his wife cannot come to britain, says jenrick. he's he's the front runner in the leadership thing. and he said that mass migration is putting immense pressure on housing, hospitals and roads. that's the conversation to be having the infrastructure one. i reckon you can frame that in a way that the left and the right can actually do some good and having that conversation, but he's also

realising if you want to get down to the final two, or if you down to the final two, or if you do get down to the final two, you've got to appeal. lean to the right because it will be the conservative voters picking between you and your other person or maybe he just genuinely believes in these principles. yeah no, robert jenrick said. there is no future for the tories unless they confront the small boat crisis. meanwhile, this might be awkward, but in today's sun, here's a headline migrant channel crossings fall to lowest in four years in boost to home secretary yvette cooper. and that's not like the sun's going to be. i can't think of a non bottom related being big fans of the labour party. so who knows. no one knows how this is happening. but somehow labour might be shooting the fox before the hunt. okay now jenrick, the world and his wife cannot come to britain. it's very heteronormative phrase, isn't heteronorm ative phrase, isn't it? heteronormative phrase, isn't it? i don't think that would go down well with the membership, but it says here he was the only candidate to speak without notes. that seems to be the clincher these days. >> yeah, i watched his speech. i thought he spoke slightly better, but jenrick was very goodin better, but jenrick was very good in the q&a with gb's choppers afterwards, he i liked he he steve's being cynical but

he he steve's being cynical but he did resign over the rwanda bill because he felt it wasn't going to be effective . he's going to be effective. he's recognised the need to sort immigration. he mentioned the small boats , but he also talks small boats, but he also talks about essentially freezing net migration. he talks about borders, net zero building, having a small state again , having a small state again, that's at thatcherite stuff and our nation and culture, which is more vague. we have to get tough on immigration. i kind of resent it. i mean, i like the 90s world we had where we could all have like interesting books and films and stuff, and we didn't have to be too hard line, but because of neglect and obscene immigration policy for years, we now all have to, like, end up sounding like the afd and these parties and i have to anyway, because something has to be done and chennai six recognise that you can't just be like nice and fluffy anymore . you've got to fluffy anymore. you've got to say, right, we have to do something about immigration as priority number one. >> well, we'll find out, won't we? that's the end of part two. do join us after the break to find out what children are learning at school, what schools feel they need to apologise for, and what are doing to improve mental health. don't go

welcome back to headliners. it's your first look at thursday's newspapers. we're going to begin this section with the express and sex education. that's nick's speciality. >> thank you andrew. yeah it's miriam cates that's my side job. miriam cates that's my side job. miriam cates that's my side job. miriam cates accuses activists of hijacking uk's sex education curriculum with inappropriate material. and it's nothing really new. it's just it's these things we've seen before the relationship, relationships, health and sex education. rhc coming up with all this stuff that there's nothing really new about it. it's these horrible things where they're being taught things like rough sex and things in school, and you go, why are they being taught this? people talk about a six year old being taught about masturbation . being taught about masturbation. so miriam cates has been raised for years. that's what i say. yeah, that's what i'm saying. it's not new, but it is completely awful. and what you see is you go, why are they teaching this to kids? and i'm left with sort of two main conclusions. one is that the

ideology just wants to take the children off the parents. essentially, this prevailing ideology we have and the second part is that it's degenerate. >> so isn't there a lot of it external, like people they brought in, like, you know, stonewall or the equivalent, i mean, the prevailing ideology, whatever you want to call it, wokeness that pervades so many institutions. >> yes. one thing we know about it is that it likes to take authority from the parents and say, oh, don't report this and so on. and the other thing we know about it is that it's degenerate. >> so that's why you get i mean, the thing about it, the thing about it, i mean, i've seen some of the a parent, someone i know who is a parent, showed me some of the stuff that was being shown to her. i think six year old kid, and it was pretty grim. and then when she contacted them, the school said, well, we've got no choice. the government makes us do this, and i'm sure that's not right. i'm sure it is. these outside companies. i imagine they've mandated that you have these type of lessons . yes, but i'm type of lessons. yes, but i'm sure they're not down to the level. there's a one of the things listed here. the dice game , which apparently has game, which apparently has different pictures of body parts. you roll two dice and then you have to come up with a position that would link those. i that sounds like an adult. i

don't think i could do that. there are certainly some that if you rolled, i wouldn't work out what to do with it. and i've been around, i've seen. >> i thought you were going to say you couldn't find it in your heart to teach kids that. that's what i'd be thinking. i'd be like, i'm not going to teach this sick stuff to kids. but don't you? don't you find yourself asking why? that's what i well, yeah. badly tried to articulate. >> that's what i mean. i think i think it's these outside activists. i don't think it's i think the teachers are kind of relieved not to have to do this. >> and why do the activists want to do it? >> well, i mean, i can't probe inside the minds of strangers, but i would say that perhaps they think that perhaps they genuinely it's like that. you remember that show that theatre show, the family sex show where they had nudity on stage. this show was aimed at five and six year olds. they had very explicit language about sexual activity and then, you know, i heard some of the people talking abouti heard some of the people talking about i think they genuinely think that if you introduce kids to this stuff, then they will have healthier, happier adult lives in later years. but it's obviously deranged. yeah, although they'd be better at that dice game than i am. and i'm a grown man, so, you know, you win some. i think it's unpleasant. i think miriam cates is right to flag it. yeah. you

know. anyway, let's move on another filthy show. this is the daily mail. this is, what's this one about. oh, this is, oh, no, this is another. this is. sorry. wrong story. this is lgbt relationships. what's going on with this one? >> you want to do that one? i can do that one. go on. is that you, nick? yeah. this is school assistant sacked for her christian beliefs after she criticised plans to teach lgbt+ relationships to pupils, fights, dismissals in court. so relationships to pupils, fights, dismissals in court . so this was dismissals in court. so this was a christy higgs who's 47, who was sacked for gross misconduct by farmers school in fairford, gloucestershire. and it's not exactly clear what was going to be taught about these lgbt+ relationships. but she objected to it. >> but it was on facebook . it >> but it was on facebook. it was a private friends. >> it was, you know, it was silly. it was, yeah, trivial. but she said they were brainwashing our children, which of course they are. i don't know specifically what with in this case, but no one seriously could deny they're not trying to indoctrinate children into the prevailing ideology . prevailing ideology. >> so have you read what she wrote on facebook?

>> i read that she was. she said they were brainwashing our children because the school apparently said they defended their decision by saying it's to do with the language that she used, not the sentiments in other words, they're saying we're not criminalising her opinion or judging her opinion. opinion orjudging her opinion. >> we're saying the language was the problem. >> yeah, it's hard because it doesn't say exactly what the proposals were and exactly what her riposte was. so it's a little bit tricky in the article, but in general, one feels she's she feels she's been discriminated against as a christian in general. surely it's pretty obvious that yes, christians are discriminated against in this culture. now in favour of this prevailing ideology, sometimes called woke . ideology, sometimes called woke. >> why, steve, would it matter what a teacher puts on their private facebook page to 100 odd friends and family? the thing, the problem is she's saying something on facebook. all those caveats about her employer and her employer might might think, i don't want someone who thinks i'm brainwashing children as an employee. it's not necessarily i know the headline is saying sack for her christian beliefs, but she's sacked for her actions. and the actions were to call the employer a brainwasher. so that's a good point, nick. i

mean, if that is the case that that because part of many contracts is you can't off your employer publicly. i mean, that's kind of kind of a reasonable thing, isn't it? >> yeah. i mean, and is one's facebook public if you're saying it's your friends on facebook, i mean, i guess it is. >> it's not that public, is it. because you can you have you have to be a friend to see the posts, see, you know, no, you can't. it's not you can't go on someone's facebook page and just read their posts. if you're not a friend of theirs, then i suppose you're defining what pubuc suppose you're defining what public is. and yeah, it's a it's a thin end of the wedge. if it's 100 people. but i suppose where would you where would you draw the line? it's definitely not private. if 100 people can see it. okay, i've done worse gigs . it. okay, i've done worse gigs. okay, okay. well, let's move on to this one. this is the telegraph. next. durham students union tries to stop free speech and open debate getting in the way of university life. yeah. free speech row durham university after debating society blocked from campus events. this is freshers week and they i mean you'd think they would be able to put together an argument to win that one. it's what if you can't win that argument, why should you be

there? but the durham union society, 182 year old debating society barred from taking place, taking part in the intake, trying to recruit as in the freshers fair. yeah. the free speech union claims that it's because the debating society isn't left wing enough . society isn't left wing enough. the organisers of freshers week, durham student union, say it's because they haven't met dei criteria. what does that mean? well, i think it's that they're agreeing. they seem to be falling out, but they both seem to be saying they're not left wing enough. so is that what it is, nick? it can't be that, can it? >> well, it's more nuanced. i mean, they wanted them to improve their track record or show that they were making progress. on what on on equality, diversity and inclusion. but of course, that inclusion. but of course, that in itself is an ideological statement. yeah. they claim here that toby young is making a free speech union. is that actually you could see from their website that they just didn't like this, this society, they sort of were mocking them and calling them a tuxedo clad provocateurs. and this because they invite right wing people onto campus. that's what it seems like . but my claim what it seems like. but my claim is that even on their own premise, that they hadn't done enough to improve the i, that in

itself is an overtly ideological premise that should be rejected anyway, because why should they adhere to that if they're a free speech organisation? >> isn't one of the principles thatis >> isn't one of the principles that is related to dei. the woke movement is no debate. so i guess by even having a debating society, you're violating some of their principles . yeah, it of their principles. yeah, it very much seems like for some people, the concept of debate seems right wing. yes. which means because they're winning. >> yeah. you're winning . well, >> yeah. you're winning. well, they don't want any debate if you're. >> yeah. i mean i always say you can't win an argument if you refuse to have it . so actually refuse to have it. so actually they're not winning, but they're not losing. >> if you've already won then it's like, i'm just going to take my ball and not play because we've already won. >> it's like, if you don't turn up to the battlefield, you can say, well, i would have won that. yeah, if i'd have gone and lose it. well, yeah. okay. very depressing though, isn't it? we're talking about universities. anyway, we're going to close this section with the times now and labour taking action. that sounds off brand. >> yeah. this is a job advisers in hospitals to get mental health patients back to work. and it's essentially their

solution to mental health problems is get a job, get on your bike and get a job. and so that's what that's why you say off brand for labour. it's essentially talking about the dignity of work and how work actually helps you. it was done at maudsley hospital in south london, and they allegedly found that 55% of patients got back to work, or this model shows that versus 28% offered normal treatment. i'm not exactly clear what the treatment is, but as far as i can see, it's saying stop moaning work. then your mental health problems will be cured if they get by the way, we desperately need that for the economy brackets. >> yeah, the economy boost is almost a side effect isn't it? if they go in there on a bike, labour would like it, so that's good. but i mean the idea of like if you've got mental health issues work is good for you. it issues work is good for you. it is the research shows you and you know, from our own existence, we know working can make you feel good about things. >> is there a caveat about working with lewis schaffer that makes you feel worse? >> i'll give you that. but the fact that it's in hospitals, you do think like be careful about which if you're in hospital with mental health issues, be careful about which job you get. like, don't go down the joke shop. he doesn't like loud noises. and

there was a bit i was listening to this on the way in. it said, there's a pilot scheme, and for a second i was like, don't make them pilots. don't, don't do that. this is your captain speaking. i think i've reached the end of my tether. i know land first. okay well, look, we've got one more section to 90, we've got one more section to go, so please do join us after the break. we're going to be talking about the cunning plans of oasis fans. a revolutionary dog product and a mushroom fit for halloween. don't go

welcome back to headliners. it's your first look at thursday's newspapers. we're going to have a look at this filthy story in the daily mail. who's got this? ihave the daily mail. who's got this? i have and it is so dumb, this story that it feels like it should be a headline from the mash report. and i can do quite a good impression of the guy who used to be a newsreader on there. yes primary school, which introduced muddy play area , introduced muddy play area, apologises to parents after children come home covered in mud. excellent. you've got the

intonation just right. it's exactly how he used to do it. it wasn't great, was he? but this is halesworth primary school in devon. they've got a new feature in their playground. muddy areas? yes and somehow a note top scientists can't fathom this . top scientists can't fathom this. it meant that the kids got muddy. right. and that's an actual story here. they've now written to the parents and say, please be reassured that plans are in place to limit the amount of exposure to the muddy areas until the hopefully drier season is upon us. do they know how mud works? it won't be a muddy area in the dry season. mud requires water and soil, and soil is the one that's got the bacterium that makes kids go blind. parasite. rather is this. that's the one to pick. is this just a school run by vegetables? i mean , school run by vegetables? i mean, honestly, this is this is no animal level stupidity. >> no, i think there's a lot more to it. i mean, i like this quote that they say this journey is new. the school has now said sorry to mothers and fathers saying this journey is new. it's not that new, is it? mud and kids and mud. but surely that bit was amusing. but what is interesting here is in the past we had kids naturally, organically playing with with

mud sometimes, but not all the time . what what's happened now time. what what's happened now is we've gone so far the other way and kids were developing asthma because things were too clean and so on. now this is like kind of prescribed mud. so it's like we've got an actual muddy area go in it. so now they get excessively muddy. and of course parents complain. it's like, why have you told my kid to get muddy? what works is letting kids sort of do what they want within reason, which we used to have. but now we've gone so far. now we've gone like, okay, we need to force them into mud. and then that becomes weird because it's too much mud. >> see, we as kids, we used to go and play in the woods. in the park. >> yeah. and you do a reasonable amount of mud, but now it's like, go in the mud area. you can you can see why parents are affronted because they're saying, oh, you know, we're sending your kids into like, pure mud, and we're telling them to get in and then you've got to wash it. >> yeah, but if the kids enjoy it, just wash the darn clothes. i mean, i can i get to say this as a parent now, who does all the laundry? >> yeah, use the clothes. you're wrong. because also the second theme here is that we now are led by children rather than adults. and we're we're in this helicopter. we're terrified about children and they run the society. >> you only get this much of life when you can enjoy mud and

then you get to my age. >> i enjoy mud in moderation. naturally not by force designated. >> enjoy mud in moderation. that's that should be the slogan of this show. we're going to move on to this story now, and this is, oasis. what's this one about? dig out your hole. i mean, i don't know why they phrase it like that. at the start, oasis fans bury drugs in park ten months before reunion gigs are held there. this is either a great way to get your drugs, or a great way to get some squirrels off their face there. they're going to be up all winter. dancing fans boasted about burying the drugs in heaton park in manchester to addiction counsellors. is this because they all get frisked on the way in? basically. so you'll just turn up and it'll be buried there and it feels like, well, either they don't put this in a newspaper because right now, if you go to the park and see some recently moved earth, that's where all the drugs are. but also this was a these are addiction counsellors, i think you're not very good at your job. no. you're the people you're counselling are burying drugs ready for a massive oasis. i mean they're not going to be able to keep this out anyway are they. i mean it's a it's a brit

p0p - p0p- >> it's oasis. it's a waste. that's right. liam will be bringing most of them. i mean, can i make that claim? that's a satirical claim. liam, don't sue me, members. the phrase that struck me is members of the addiction community. they have a community now. i didn't know that. that's nice. >> and it's not just drugs. >> and it's not just drugs. >> they have a mood area they play >> they have a mood area they play in. yeah, it's really nice. they do. >> it's lovely. very sweet . >> it's lovely. very sweet. express. now great news for dog owners. nick. what's this? >> this is boffin, which you normally expect to see in the star, but this is in the express. boffin invents high tech drone poop boffin invents high tech drone poop copter that picks up dog mess. minnesota based inventor caleb olson says it's fully self—guided, fully capable of retrieving poop from grass, and it's full of word. i probably can't even say at 5 am. when this goes out, but can we even say poop? anyway? he's unsure how he's a prototype so he doesn't know to where take it, whether to sell it direct to consumer or whether there'll be a kind of poop man who drives around neighbourhoods like the bin man. >> okay , steve, what are your >> okay, steve, what are your thoughts on this? the best thing is apparently it can then lift the poop and leave it somewhere. or it can just go high and spin around this. oh, what could

possibly go wrong? this has been invented to do hate crimes, hasn't it? surely this is just from the comfort of your own home. but also, you know, i worry about getting drones to do these everyday, quotidian activities that we should be able to do ourselves because it is the thin end of the wedge. this is how the computers poop. well i mean, there's no need to be disgusting. the terminator prequel, where they start off by picking up poops, but i think there's something in it. you know, arnie just dragged himself. what's that? what's that film with? is it tom selleck, the one with set in the future , written by michael future, written by michael crichton, where it's the it's the robots looking after your hoovering and the basic and washing up . they turn and kill washing up. they turn and kill acas acid in the face from those spidery things. exactly. it's what's it called? runaway. runaway i think it's called runaway lawnmower man. it's not lawnmower man. nick. we know lawnmower man. nick. we know lawnmower man. nick. we know lawnmower man. we say it's runaway with kirstie alley in that as well. it's a good film, but it's chilling because it's coming true . we are going to be coming true. we are going to be destroyed by toasters and things like that. toasters full of poop. okay well, that's all we

got time for. on that note, let's have another quick look, though, at thursday's front pages before we go. so the daily telegraph is leading with uk forces not up to defending israelis. the eye has got israel vows rapid revenge strike on iran. the guardian us warns israel we won't support attacks on iranian nuclear sites. the daily express has security chiefs fear rise in terror attacks in uk, and the daily mail is running with starmer coughing up £6,000 to pay for his freebies. finally, the daily star line of duty star's sandwich torment , which we spoke sandwich torment, which we spoke about earlier. for some reason that's all we've got time for. thanks to steve and nick st giles'. simon evans will be here tomorrow with nick and lewis, but if you're watching the 5 am. repeat, do stick around a.m. repeat, do stick around because right now it's time for. breakfast. >> there will be a light breeze in the morning leading to a warm front boxed heat pumps, sponsors

of weather on gb news. >> hello. good evening and welcome to your gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. well, it's going to be a cold night ahead with some frost and fog in places, but generally high pressure is building in bringing plenty of fine and settled weather to come. still low pressure dominating across the south, so cloudier here with some showers but high pressure in the north is building across the country, bringing plenty of fine and settled weather. now as we head into this evening. still some cloud across the south, but it is generally breaking up as we head into the overnight period, so leaving plenty of clear spells largely dry, though still the chance of a few showers just poking into southeastern coasts, but otherwise a dry night for many. plenty of clear spells, so it will be feeling cold with some fog in places too, particularly in northern areas. might just be a little bit slow to clear by the time we reach tomorrow morning as well. so as i say , morning as well. so as i say, particularly across scotland, it will be feeling cold. likely to see some grass frost. may even see some grass frost. may even see a little bit of frost on your cars during the early hours of the morning, and there will

be fog in places too. so do take care when travelling. this generally lifting and breaking through the course of the morning. but as i say, there may be some stubborn fog which is slow to clear, largely dry across the south. still those showers just feeding in to the southeast coast. but as i say, high pressure building in bringing plenty of fine and settled weather across the country, there is still the chance of the odd shower across the southeast, but you'll probably be unlucky if you do catch any largely dry, plenty of sunny spells and some lighter winds as well. so even though temperatures are generally round about average with highs of around 16 or 17 in the southeast, it will probably feel more pleasant in those lighter winds as we head into friday. still plenty of fine and settled weather around , but low pressure weather around, but low pressure is trying to edge its way into the west, so cloudier here with some outbreaks of rain across northern ireland and western parts of scotland, and there will still be plenty of fine dry weather across the country as we head into the weekend, but we are expecting some more unsettled spells as well. so as always, stay tuned for all the details. bye for now .

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blaming a lack of military investment. well meanwhile, the new defence secretary clarifies that british military jets weren't involved in shooting down iranian missiles. >> but were ready to do so. >> but were ready to do so. >> well, this comes as president biden confirms the us. will avoid involvement in potential strikes against iran's nuclear sites, as israel vows to retaliate.

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