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gb news. >> a very, very good evening to you. i'm martin daubney and this is gbn. tonight on october the 7th, 2023. hamas launched the largest ever terrorist attack on israeli soil. the terrorist group killed 1189 people and took 251 hostage, one year on. we'll be taking a look back at the event that shook the region andindeed the event that shook the region and indeed the world. i'll be joined in the studio by the israeli ambassador to the uk to commemorate the event, and to discuss what next for the region . discuss what next for the region. and up next, as almost 1000 people crossed the channel illegally, this weekend, a shock new study conducted by oxford university shows that britain is the illegal migrant capital of europe. the research shows that up to 745,000 illegal migrants are now in the country. i think it's much more than that, to be honest. accounting for around 1 in 100 people have we.7 how honest. accounting for around 1 in 100 people have we? how have we let it get to this point? and
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what can be done about it? and after weeks of turmoil, hostile briefing and bitter infighting at the heart of number 10, sir keir starmer's chief of staff has been dramatically ousted and the government has been forced to institute a reset in just 100 chaotic days since being in power. we'll be discussing what exactly has happened and why it matters for you . all of that and matters for you. all of that and much more on gb news tonight . much more on gb news tonight. as well as the show. always a polite pleasure to have your company. now all that coming. please get in touch with your thoughts on all tonight's topics. and of course you can do that by visiting gbnews.com/yoursay. but first though, here's your news headunes though, here's your news headlines with will hollis . headlines with will hollis. >> good evening. the time is
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7:01. i'm will hollis with your top news stories. a major incident has been declared in northern ireland after a bus crash in county down. according to the ambulance service. police in northern ireland say that two children who were trapped on board the bus have sustained serious hand injuries. 27 children have been taken to the royal hospital in belfast with minor injuries, while 70 people were on board. it's understood there have been no fatalities. gb news spoke to passenger alex hagan at the scene . hagan at the scene. >> the bus starts wobbling a wee bit and everyone gets a bit, you know, weary , a bit scared, and know, weary, a bit scared, and then we go down a bit more and then we go down a bit more and the bus just topples over and i like i can't remember what happenedin like i can't remember what happened in between, but it's like it was like i woke up and i climbed up one of the seats so everyone under me could get up and i looked under me and everyone else was freaking out and screaming . and screaming. >> people across israel have
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gathered to mark the one year anniversary of the october 7th attacks in jerusalem . israelis attacks in jerusalem. israelis carrying flags and placards with the faces of missing people gathered outside president netanyahu's home at the time of 629. local time, a siren rang out to mark the hour that hamas led militants launched rocket attacks into israel last october, according to israeli figures, they killed 1200 people and took some 250 hostages into gaza. and new polling carried out on behalf of the campaign against anti—semitism has found what they called concerning levels of support for hamas among young people in britain. the yougov poll found that 9% of 18 to 24 year olds in the uk had a so—called favourable view of hamas , compared to 3% across the hamas, compared to 3% across the general public. in politics, parliament is back following a
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recess for the various party conferences, which have been taking place over the last few weeks. members are now back in westminster, but their return coincides with further controversy for the government after yesterday's departure of the pm's chief of staff, sue gray. sir keir has since reworked his inner team, with the leader of labour's general election campaign, morgan mcsweeney , taking on the top mcsweeney, taking on the top role. instead . former police role. instead. former police officer david carrick has been charged with sex offences against two women. the cps said the former met officer has been charged with five counts of indecent assault, two counts of rape and one count of sexual assault. plus one more count of coercive and controlling behaviour . a coercive and controlling behaviour. a gp has been jailed after a string of indecent assaults against seven female patients in berkshire. doctor stephen cox has been sentenced
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to 22 years in prison at reading crown court. cox was found guilty of 12 counts of indecent assault between 1988 and 1997. the jury was told he made patients undress unnecessarily and touched their breasts without gloves. and your final story for you at this hour, reform uk is preparing a private prosecution of the men involved in a violent altercation with police officers at manchester airport in july. members have written to the home office secretary claiming that officers involved have been thrown under the bus, and that the alleged assailants are being given special different treatment. in their letter, they also claim that a senior police officer overruled a recommendation to release footage of the incident, which was later leaked to a newspaper . at just past 7:00, newspaper. at just past 7:00, those are your latest headlines, and i'll be back in an hour with many more for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone,
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sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . gbnews.com forward slash alerts. >> thank you. well, now, a year ago today marked the darkest day for the jewish people since the holocaust. and hamas terrorists? yes, terrorists. they entered israel and brutally murdered nearly 1200 people, taking a further 251 hostages. of those , further 251 hostages. of those, 97 still to this day remain unaccounted for. this act of war, backed by the iranian mullahs, sparked a conflict that continues to this day, with victims on both sides. more israelis have been killed, and more than 41,000 palestinians have died, according to the hamas run gaza health ministry. in recent, the war has expanded to iran's other proxy in
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lebanon, the hezbollah terror group. israeli forces have bombed beirut, group. israeli forces have bombed beirut , taking out bombed beirut, taking out hezbollah's leader, nasrallah, while hezbollah has targeted locations in the north of israel, such as haifa. now, today , commemorations were held today, commemorations were held across the to world mark this important and tragic anniversary. in israel, among the many vigils, one was held at the many vigils, one was held at the site where 364 people were killed at the nova music festival. the last song played that day was replayed, stopping abruptly at the same time as last year. and here in the uk, in hove, during a service of the names of the victims were read aloud, while the foreign secretary visited a synagogue in nonh secretary visited a synagogue in north london, joined by the chief rabbi of the uk, rabbi ephraim mirvis. in westminster, the prime minister had this to say . say. >> mr speaker, 15 british citizens were brutally slain that day. another has since died in captivity . our thoughts today
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in captivity. our thoughts today are with the jewish people around the world. the jewish community here in the united kingdom and all those that we lost a year ago. and we stand with all communities here in the united kingdom against hatred of jews or muslims , because any jews or muslims, because any attack on a minority is an attack on a minority is an attack on a minority is an attack on our proud values of tolerance and respect . tolerance and respect. >> now, as in the 1930s, you may be wondering why this matters to us here in a far, far away , safe us here in a far, far away, safe land. well, that horrific day caused reverberations around the world, including in the uk. instead of condemning the violence carried out by hamas and expressing empathy for the victims, many celebrated their actions and even tried to justify them. almost weekly, we've seen thousands of pro—palestine protests and the rise of the term two tier
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policing, with police seemingly treating pro—palestine protesters better than pro—israel activists. well, i've been on these protests and i've experienced them all firsthand , experienced them all firsthand, including, as you can see on your screens, when the genocidal slogan from the river to the sea was projected onto big ben. i begged police to take that projector down. they simply ignored me. they didn't care. just this weekend, there were shocking scenes, including people mocking the deaths of israelis. signs defending hezbollah, one saying even i love hezbollah, another saying hezbollah are not terrorists. as you can see on your screens, you disgusting images. one person, even dressed up as a hamas paraglider a year on from paragliders going in and murdering so many israelis. now the situation has also seeped into our politics. in may, dunng into our politics. in may, during council elections, a green party councillor who won a seat shouted allahu akbar, claiming his victory was a win
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for the people of gaza. in the july general election, labour lost several previous strongholds to independent candidates , campaigning solely candidates, campaigning solely on the pro gaza vote. nigel farage had previously warned that the war in the middle east had led to sectarian politics in this country, and astonishingly today polling revealed that 9% of 18 to 24 year olds have a favourable view of hamas, compared to just 3% of the general public. now, we also learned that anti—semitic hate crimes have overtaken islamophobic incidents for the first time in the uk, and even on today. that's significant. and important. unforgettable anniversary and milestone. the pro—palestine lot just cannot give the jewish people a day of mourning . they were seen outside mourning. they were seen outside a university in the uk chanting from the river to the sea. this is why it matters to you. do we really want this poison any more
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in our country? well, i'm delighted to say on this momentous day i'm joined in the studio by the israeli ambassador to the uk, tzipi hotovely, who joins me. good evening. my studio. thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> thank you for having me. >> it's an absolute delight to have your company. can we start, tzipi, for starters, by looking back on that day, a year ago today, i was on the news desk as it broke. it was just an incredible situation, seeing those paragliders going in and then the videos as they emerge. the horror began to emerge. and still to this day, a year later, those images haunt us. tell us your reflections on that day. >> well, i was in israel with my family. it was a jewish holiday. it was supposed to be a very festive day, the 7th of october changed israel forever. i don't think there is even one israeli that will say his mindset . think there is even one israeli that will say his mindset. his life will be the same after what we have experienced as a nation. the barbaric attack from hamas came from the same ideology that
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dnven came from the same ideology that driven the nazi regime back then in germany. it's a genocidal ideology that doesn't want the jews to exist. it's as simple as that. this is anti—semitism in its highest level, that they don't want jews to exist in their homeland. and they came to israel to commit those atrocities, including sexual violence , horrible actions of violence, horrible actions of rape , butchering , violence, horrible actions of rape , butchering, burning to rape, butchering, burning to death, people, families have been devastated and shattered. i feel at this day i feel that the first thing i'm thinking about is our 101 hostages. the fact that they are still there. every israeli knows someone that was in 7th of october in the battlefield because the country became a whole battlefield. and now, ten months after, i can tell you that israel is actually a stronger country because we are facing our enemies with no
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illusions about their intentions. their intentions were exposed at the 7th of october, and now, when we see those people that are coming to commit a genocide and the jewish people we are protecting the israeli people by eliminating those terrorists and we started with hamas, and now we are going to make sure that the other benefit the most from a ceasefire sure at least from benefit the most from a ceasefire sure thatast from benefit the most from a proxy of iran, hezbollah , won't ceasefire sure that the rom benefit the most from a ceasefire sure that the other to make sure that the other proxy of iran, hezbollah , won't proxy of iran, hezbollah, won't be functioning on our northern proxy of iran, hezbollah, won't be functioning on our northern border. so the people of the border. so the people of the nonh border. so the people of the north can go back to their nonh border. so the people of the north can go back to their homes. there are 60,000 israelis homes. there are 60,000 israelis have been evacuated. so i have been evacuated. so i believe the middle east will be believe the middle east will be actually a better place after actually a better place after israel will finish the mission israel will finish the mission of eliminating those terror of eliminating those terror groups. >> tzipi, can i ask you about groups. >> tzipi, can i ask you about the political response from the the political response from the west? because 1200 people were west? because 1200 people were killed a year ago today, killed a year ago today, hostages were taken. the deaths hostages were taken. the deaths in the most unimaginable manners in the most unimaginable manners had a had a father whose son is had a had a father whose son is still held captive. his boy guy still held captive. his boy guy still held captive. his boy guy still doesn't know if he's dead still held captive. his boy guy still doesn't know if he's dead or alive or in what perilous or alive or in what perilous state. and yet , surely those who state. and yet , surely those who state. and yet, surely those who benefit the most from a state. and yet, surely those who benefit the most from a
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ceasefire, or at least from ceasefire, or at least from backing out of the area, would be hamas. why is it that benjamin netanyahu seems resolute in his mission to wipe out hamas, to eliminate hezbollah? no grey area there yet. today the british prime minister, sir keir starmer, said we need a political solution. we must have an immediate ceasefire, put down the arms. we don't want any more conflict. that seems to be echoed by all of the western then and we
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with germany back then and we are dealing today with iran and its proxies. it's the same ideology you need to understand. it's the same imperialistic way of thinking taking over against any liberal values. western leaders need to understand that if we want to make sure that iran will pay the price for its attack, for sending, for firing 180 missiles, cruise missiles to a populated areas like tel aviv and jerusalem in israel if they want to pay the price. now, this is a pure appeasement and we know how appeasement ended up. we know that europe was occupied under germany because people were appeasing the leaders back then, were appeasing hitler. we cannot appease the evil sides of the world. we cannot appease all the world. we cannot appease all the countries that want to eliminate western values. and i believe that israel is in the front line of our shared enemies. you were asking your the people that are watching us now, what's in it for us as
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british people? those are the same countries that are threatened, that are threatening you. those are the same iranian drones that are hitting ukraine. when you're worried about the future of the continent, those are the same terror attacks that are the same terror attacks that are hitting you on the manchester arena and on the seven over seven attack. it's the same values that we all feel that are under our threat, under radicalism, and we need to fight them together. >> tzipi, that brings me on to my next point . frankly my next point. frankly astonishing poll today, a yougov poll conducted in conjunction with the campaign against antisemitism, gideon falter, the ceo on my show earlier on today , ceo on my show earlier on today, just staggering information to learn that 9% of 18 to 24 year olds in britain have a favourable view of hamas, a favourable view of hamas, a favourable view of a terrorist organisation that a year ago today wiped out 1200 israelis, 18% of young people disagree that israel has a right to exist as a homeland . this is shocking
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as a homeland. this is shocking for the jewish people. it's really, really shocking, gideon told me, tzipi, that that equates to 4.5 million brits, 4.5 million brits. don't think israel has the right to exist. what on earth is going on? >> firstly, this is a pure anti—semitism. if the only country in the world that cannot exist is the jewish state, and it's a pure anti—semitism. so people need to be well educated about anti—semitism, about where anti—semitism is coming from. this is a racism just like any other racism. but going deeper, i'm afraid that in the last few years you've seen more and more young people around the world that are adopting a very radical ideology, and they prefer to support terror organisations rather than a democracy. what does that come from? and honestly, it's very hard to understand their psychology behind it. i believe it's coming from a lot of ignorance. so i have offered to those young people, come take a tour, take a visit in israel and then take a tourin visit in israel and then take a tour in gaza. see those hospitals that those terrorists turn into terror hubs, see israel, a flourishing democracy
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thatis israel, a flourishing democracy that is developing now. so many good things that are helping all of us because israel is a country that loves life, loves peace, and see the cult of death thatis peace, and see the cult of death that is happening on the other side. the education for hatred and choose where do you want to live? where do you want to be a woman? where do you want to be someone that your rights are being preserved? i think this type of things will enlighten everyone because we're in a point where people don't realise what type of dark ideology they support by carrying those signs of i love hezbollah. hezbollah executed so many terror actions against americans, against israelis and against jews around the world. i was in argentina. i was in a memorial for the embassy and the jewish community that was attacked by hezbollah. our embassy, as israel was attacked by hezbollah at 1994. so this is a terror organisation that wants to kill innocent people, innocent civilians. and when you're supporting terrorism, in the end of the way, you lose your moral clarity and i believe if those young
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people will get the context of everything. and i want to say one more thing about how the israel story is being told. many times people start the story from the middle. what happened at the 10th of october? at the 8th of october? remember the 7th of october and remember the 6th of october and remember the 6th of october, the 6th of october. there was a complete ceasefire. israel didn't do nothing. people just lived their life. they wanted to celebrate a jewish houday. wanted to celebrate a jewish holiday . but at the 7th of holiday. but at the 7th of october, this barbaric attack , october, this barbaric attack, unprovoked attack came from hamas invading people's houses, living rooms , bedrooms. i think living rooms, bedrooms. i think the most devastating thing for me as israeli, we've been through wars. we're very resilient people. but the idea that your own home is not safe, the idea that you can be invaded into the children's room and babies cradles can be burned to death . babies were burned to death. babies were burned to death. babies were burned to death in the 7th of october by hamas terrorists. this heartless behaviour of the barbarism we've seen. those are things that really are breaking my heart. we need to deal with this radical
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ideology to make sure it's been eradicated from our region, because only then we will have peace and a better future . peace and a better future. >> zebby we have a quick minute before we have to finish. sadly. could i ask you, as an israeli ambassador to the uk, what this means for british jews? how are they feeling about all this right now? >> well, first of all, i want to thank all the british jews that came yesterday to hyde park and all the non—jewish people that came to stand with us with israeli flags proudly supporting israel, standing in solidarity. yesterday was the main rally in hyde park. i think the jewish community is really united now, supports israel . they do supports israel. they do understand that the anti—semitism they see in the streets of london is unacceptable, and they're fighting it. i believe we all should fight anti—semitism in the streets of london. no jew should feel like it needs to hide his head cover or his star of david when he walks in the streets of london. >> you would agree with that. thank you very much for joining us on the show. thank you. welcome to be a guest on the show. thank you very much. that's tzipi hotovely in the studio with me now. coming up after the break, protests have
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welcome back to gbn. tonight with me martin daubney. now, westminster was the scene of a passionate protest today as british indian ocean territory citizens gathered to demand that britain halts labour's plan to hand over the chagos islands. chanting hear our voice and waving banners, the protesters directed their ire squarely at keir starmer and foreign secretary david lammy, accusing them of ignoring the will of the islanders and bypassing democratic process. and the rally comes in response to labour's controversial decision to negotiate the return of the chagos islands , home to the chagos islands, home to the strategic diego garcia military base to mauritius, a move the
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protesters decry as undemocratic and dangerous. while some well—known faces attended the rally , including former rally, including former conservative minister dame andrea jenkins and the former ukip leader henry bolton, who i'm delighted to say joins me now. but before we get to him, let's hear from the foreign secretary, who was speaking in the commons earlier this afternoon. >> i want to reassure the house and all members of the uk family worldwide that this agreement does not signal any change in policy to britain's other overseas territories . british overseas territories. british sovereignty on the falkland islands , gibraltar and the islands, gibraltar and the sovereign base areas is not up for negotiation. the situations are not comparable . are not comparable. >> and i'm joined now by henry bolton. henry, you were at the protest outside parliament earlier on today. in fact, on my show earlier, i spoke to one of those gentlemen who was there, very, very passionate. can i ask you to respond first of all to
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something that david lammy said? he was laughed at? he was heckled in parliament when he said that this is critical for britain's national security. in fact, it's a deal that benefits is all in an increasingly volatile world. that memo wasn't passed on to the protesters outside henry. >> no, no . and it's not even >> no, no. and it's not even worth the hot air that he spouted it with. look , maybe if spouted it with. look, maybe if it was, maybe the foreign secretary could answer this question for me. why is the base on diego garcia, which is the largest of the islands concerned? why is that base now more secure than it was under when it was part? well, it still is at the moment, but as part of the british indian, indian ocean territory, it is british territory as much as gibraltar or the falklands. but now i it's beyond me , martin. how giving beyond me, martin. how giving that territory away , giving the that territory away, giving the sovereignty of that territory away, giving us legal
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jurisdiction over that territory away to mauritius. how does that in any way make that base more secure? i mean, what he's saying is just hot air, and i can't say it with, you know, it's public, you know, please don't don't go . you know, please don't don't go. don't go there, mate. >> please. i'm enjoying my job. henry, can i please just quickly ask you? you were there. you spoke to the protesters on the ground. what were they saying? >> well, they asked me to go along, martin, because i'd been speaking to them, sort of giving them a little bit of advice on, you know, how to do a few bits and pieces, but not very much, but a little bit. and they asked me to go along. they are the best way to describe it is upset. they're deeply upset . upset. they're deeply upset. they are ordinary people whose families were forcibly displaced from those islands in 1968 by the then labour government, at the then labour government, at the request of the united states, who wanted to use diego garcia as a military base. we've got vietnam and so on, all sort of bubbling away. so they were displaced by the labour government and they've been
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trying to get back ever since. but they are ordinary people. they don't really fully understand the workings of the constitution here or the legal niceties or anything else. they just simply they see themselves as chagossian . that is their as chagossian. that is their homeland. they've been living there for generations until they were booted out. i spoke to some who were born there, and they just want to go home. they believe that they are british to the core. they tell me that they want to remain under the protection of the crown, under under the protection of britain. and but they want the right to self—determination. and here's something, martin, on last monday they met a delegation from the met, the one of the four. i don't know which one, but one of the foreign ministers, one of the foreign office ministers. and at the beginning of that meeting , beginning of that meeting, apparently they were told, listen, we will talk about support to yourselves here in the uk, but we are not going to discuss sovereignty. when they insisted on bringing up the topic of sovereignty, they were
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told, well, that the meeting's got to end. we've got other , got to end. we've got other, other appointments that we've got to make, you know, the this government a personal comment. now, martin, if i may, as a former soldier , as a former former soldier, as a former police officer, as somebody who worked for 20 years working on security diplomacy for this nation, i have always been proud to regard it as a bastion, as a standard bearer of, of justice, of freedom, of democracy, of human rights, of fairness around the world. and i personally think speaking to these poor people who are lost in all of this and being ignored, thinking about the security implications and thinking about the implications for uk standing around the world. this government has ridden roughshod over all of those values and that reputation in this one move. now, i for hope the sake of these poor people who i'll say, i'll tell you something else shocking in a moment. i hope for their sake that somehow
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people who oppose this in parliament can delay it and overturn it because one of these people, some of them, live in the seychelles. they were displaced to the seychelles. they are not even able now on their passports to say they were born there. they have to say they were born in mauritius. the passports that they receive say that they were born in mauritius . that they were born in mauritius. they were not. this is this is ethnic cleansing, martin. this is the eradication, the erasure, an erosion or the it's the eradication of their of their identity as a people. and i think that is deeply shocking and should concern every single person living under the governance of the labour party at the moment. >> henry bolton, thank you very much for an impassioned defence of the locals there. thank you very much. and joining me now in my panel in the studio is my panellist nigel nelson, gb news senior political commentator and trevor kavanagh, the former political editor of the sun. gentlemen, welcome to the studio. nigel, going to start
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with you. david lammy, andretti. nobody likes as something that benefits everybody. clearly doesn't benefit british strategic interests. and it definitely doesn't benefit thousands of chagossians who are saying they want to remain under british rule. >> yes. i mean, what the trigger that it rather depends on which chagos islands you're talking about. and because they're obviously all over the world, an awful lot of them are here. but as henry was saying, some in mauritius, some in seychelles, the last survey of them that was done was they want to go back to their islands and the one thing about this deal is that will allow them to return. so that's part of the deal as far as the security aspect of diego garcia goes, this should make it safer. at the moment, we're facing a whole problem of under international law, the united nafions international law, the united nations general assembly said that mauritius had should have sovereignty over the islands . sovereignty over the islands. the same thing came out of the
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international court of justice . international court of justice. so we were running into these constant legal problems . now we constant legal problems. now we have a proper treaty. >> those bodies particularly support british position on the foreign stage. >> well, i mean, the un general assembly have to be listened to because obviously we're a member of that. but but because of that , of that. but but because of that, we had to do something. it was started under the conservative government, quite rightly. now we have a deal. if the treaty gets signed and ratified, we have a deal that will protect diego garcia as a military base for the next 100 years, 100 years. >> that's the blink of an eyelid in the epoch of the red dragon of china. trevor. >> yes, and that's the first mention of china in this debate so far. even with henry bolton. china is the brooding menace on the in the in the background here. and i think the what the people of mauritius or chagos or whatever you want to however you want to describe them, they are not independent now that they
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are in the acting as catspaws for the chinese. the chinese will basically run this operation because they have the financial power and the clout to do so . and until we see the do so. and until we see the terms and conditions of this deal terms and conditions of this deal, which was being kept secret for some reason, we don't know exactly how and where this is going to be applied legally and otherwise. nor do we know how much money we're funnelling into the pockets of the mauritian government in order to keep it going. so i think a huge number of question marks. i mean, this is a very strategic point on the compass for chinese to build themselves their own diego garcia, and that's probably what will exactly happenin probably what will exactly happen in about 100 years time. >> nigel trevor, thank you very much. now, just over 100 days since taking power, the government is being forced into a reset following the ousting of sir keir starmer's chief of staff, sue gray. what exactly is going in the heart government, and why does it
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welcome back. now , i've got some welcome back. now, i've got some of your views after the israeli ambassador to the uk joined me earlier on in the show for a very moving interview. patricia says this i support israel's existence, but i cannot support them taking over the palestinians homes and their land. fair point. and a&e says this if starmer was serious about a ceasefire between israel and palestine, then why has he made lammy foreign secretary? another good point . gary has another good point. gary has this now. the reason young people believe israel or the monsters is because, like the anti—british people here, anti —british people here, they've anti—british people here, they've been educated , stroke, they've been educated, stroke, brainwashed at schools and universities. thank you very much for all those opinions . much for all those opinions. always welcome. moving on now, because keir starmer is on a mission to reset his government after a turbulent first 100 days marked by policy misfires and a
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freebie scandal in a weekend shake—up at number 10, starmer replaces chief of staff sue gray after weeks of hostile briefings, including leaking that she was being paid more than the prime minister and grey has been replaced by morgan mcsweeney , architect of the mcsweeney, architect of the labour party's election campaign. the starmer restructures his top team amid scrutiny over gifts received by senior ministers. questions remain will these changes be enough to demonstrate a clear vision for labour's future, or is it a sign of simply more turmoil at the top of the government? well, i'm still joined in the studio by my panel joined in the studio by my panel. nigel nelson, gb news, senior political commentator, and trevor kavanagh, former political editor of the sun. trevor, i'm going to start with you. let's face it, we're almost a hundred years in. the labour party don't seem to be able to get a decent headline out of anybody. can they do anything right? it started badly, and frankly, it just got worse. >> well, downing street is frantically scrambling now to portray this as an act of
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ruthless , decisive and resolute ruthless, decisive and resolute government when in fact it's an admission of complete chaos and failure in the first 100 days of their term in parliament. theirterm in parliament. i mean, nobody's ever seen anything like this before, simply because nothing like this has ever happened before. >> and nigel, it's fair to say even labour party insiders i've had. labour party mps on my show repeatedly . john mcternan, repeatedly. john mcternan, a former senior adviser to tony blair, said earlier today that the party has simply lost its grip. alastair campbell, as somebody who few people that watch this channel will no doubt agree with on anything, even he says that the labour party have to get a grip on their messaging. it feels like they're just drifting towards, frankly, oblivion . oblivion. >> well, i mean, that's the whole point . the whole point of whole point. the whole point of this, of this reset is to get a grip. so we have to see how it goes. it was quite clear that someone like sue gray, not very well known to the british public
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until she did the report into lockdown parties by boris johnson. although well known to people like like trevor and myself in westminster , so she myself in westminster, so she was always going to be problematic because after the partygate stuff that her name did begin to be known. when it comes down to what went wrong, alastair campbell used to say that the important thing was policy and presentation have to be the flip side of the same coin, and that's what what had failed. they were doing policy, but they weren't able to present it. so the idea now is to have this dealt with by a proper communications team. so when they come up with something, they come up with something, they will communicate it properly. >> when's that going to happen? because let's face it, they were dogged by the freebie gates rolling on and on and on. the story they threw out was the chagos islands. that was meant to make us think positively about the labour party . i do about the labour party. i do think it was. we are once again saying it was in foreign policy disaster. >> in fairness, in fairness, i don't think they think chagos was actually there for as a
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positive for labour. it was something that had to be done. the question obviously, is whether they should have done it this week when parliament had returned, given that they had a bit of a rollicking from the speaker today, trevor, all eyes of course, are on october the 30th. >> that's really the main event. and we're expecting to brace for a lot of pain , particularly a lot of pain, particularly pensioners, motorists, anybody , pensioners, motorists, anybody, perhaps the gas boiler, who knows where this will end . knows where this will end. pensioners, savers, isas , a lot pensioners, savers, isas, a lot of people getting very, very concerned. with that in mind. is there any way that the labour party can spin anything positive out of any of this? can they pull a rabbit out of the hat and make people like them again? >> well, i think that actually rachel reeves is probably as chancellor, rapidly revising and maybe even rewriting her budget, and has been ever since the explosion over the heating allowance . there seem to be allowance. there seem to be having second thoughts about the vat on private education and on pension reform to save money,
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because the public sector will kick up a fuss and the unions in particular. but getting the budget right is going to be a difficult task. basically , difficult task. basically, they've got all their eggs are in this one basket, but in the meantime are the disobliging briefings going to stop and who is responsible for them ? because is responsible for them? because this wasn't simply a spat between sue gray and morgan mcsweeney , because the person in mcsweeney, because the person in the firing line, in the crosshairs through all of those briefings was keir starmer , not briefings was keir starmer, not sue gray. it's keir starmer who's been personally embarrassed by these very hostile briefings from the heart of the labour party. >> and so in that sense, you think sue gray has been chucked under the bus and they hope it all goes away? >> well they may do, but it's not going to simply because the, the ingredients for all this remain in place. whoever talked to the media, the bbc about the covid broadcast in which keir starmer was seen in lord alli
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flat with his family portraits behind him , new details of that behind him, new details of that which were known to very few and also the person who was most embarrassed by that disclosure was keir starmer. has that sort of antagonism? was his sabotage effectively from the very heart of this government? has that gone away? we what remains to be seen, nigel, quick moments with you . you. >> will this go away? i mean, do people have short memories? renee five minutes into the labour party's tenureship or will things like the winter fuel allowance be long, long remembered? >> no, i think the winter fuel allowance will be so. i mean, if she does something to make that eafien she does something to make that easier, like, for instance , not easier, like, for instance, not scrapping it, but taxing it for the richer pensioners, that might help. >> so a bit of a u—turn required to save the ship. >> yeah, i think so, because that's the kind of thing that will that will dog dog labour all the way through. just as tuition fees dog the liberal democrats, plus the freebies plus the freebies. >> yeah, there's that as well. superb stuff trevor. nigel. excellent as ever. now up next,
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welcome back gb tonight with me martin daubney now britain has been revealed as the illegal migrant migrants capital of europe, with a shocking new study from oxford university estimating up to 745,000 asylum seekers are currently in the country. that's accounting for 1% of the total population. now, this figure surpasses france's 300,000 and places the uk even ahead of germany, which has around 700,000. finally, we've beaten germany at something. but today, in separate exclusive research by gb news reveals a foreign prisoners league of shame that shows albanian
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nationals are by far the worst offenders. astonishingly, this is research that i did with my son over the weekend. astonishingly , albanians are astonishingly, albanians are 14.5 times more likely to be jailed in britain than brits. now, all of this research coincides with a surge in dangerous channel crossings, as 973 migrants braved the perilous journey on saturday, the highest daily total this year. well, joining me now to discuss this is my panel , joining me now to discuss this is my panel, nigel nelson, gb news senior political commentator and trevor kavanagh, former political editor of the sun. trevor, let's start with you. i think these figures are wrong. i think they're woefully underreported 745,000in the uk. we routinely hear from migration watch. it could be even more like 1.5 million. we don't know how many people are here. we've got no idea who they are. and this is just the tip of the iceberg. >> and the home office won't help you either. and it's
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interesting because those 750 or 1.5 million will be adults. so as a percentage of the adult population, it's a lot more than just 1%. and they are people, many of them who've come here for nefarious reasons and cannot be relied upon to be good citizens. i think that's dangerous. >> nigel, what's your take on this? the we were promised change. we were promised smashing the gangs. the gangs aren't listening in fact, the gangs are filling their boots. record numbers. since the labour party have been in power, there's no end in sight. >> well, i mean, the border security command is only just getting off the ground, so i wouldn't expect results immediately. we'll have to see if that works there. certainly they've transferred a lot of civil servants over from the from the rwanda scheme to clearing the backlog that we've got of asylum seekers, because while rwanda was going on, we just built up a backlog because we couldn't do anything with them. so they couldn't stay, but they couldn't go anywhere. now thatis they couldn't go anywhere. now that is being dealt with, no , we
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that is being dealt with, no, we haven't seen a result yet and it may take some time to actually see it. will it stop the boats? probably not. i think that's going to be a long term problem. and the idea you're going to be able to stop them in a month or able to stop them in a month or a year is just very unlikely. >> trevor, another report i carried earlier on today was that we've deported just 3% of illegal immigrants that arrived in britain . 3%. the message is in britain. 3%. the message is clear. we're open for business. our borders are open, open season and there's nothing. it seems that any government can do to stop it. >> well, i think this government, in fairness, is stopping it because they're cunng stopping it because they're curing the backlog by giving them all visas. so basically there's an asylum . agreement there's an asylum. agreement here. and anyone who comes across the channel knows that unless they're very unlucky indeed, they will be here. once they set foot on british soil, they set foot on british soil, they will stay permanently. >> and i wonder if we can just call up that graphic of some work i did with my son over the weekend. this is the worst foreign offenders league of
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shame. this shows that we are 39th. there it is. it's crude, graphic, but effective. you can see at the top albania, kosovo, the black are balkan countries , the black are balkan countries, the black are balkan countries, the red are middle east and nonh the red are middle east and north african. other african is the gold colour. you can see that right at the very bottom. gentlemen that's britons. you can see we are in this actually 39th in this league table, 38 other nationalities more likely to be in british jails. trevor, this shows once again albanians kosovans. they shouldn't even be in the country. if they're in germany, we should deport them. surely. >> absolutely . and the great >> absolutely. and the great thing is that we can't be accused of racism in that particular regard as well, because that is the biggest single problem here. the home office will not operate the rules of the country because everything is deemed to be racist, islamophobic, whatever . racist, islamophobic, whatever. so yes, we our hands are tied behind us, and the idea of this new border patrol or whatever it is that labour's conjuring out of the clear blue sky is going to make any differences for the birds.
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>> nigel david blunkett, previous labour regimes , they previous labour regimes, they had something of a thirst for deportation. might yvette cooper develop the same thirst, or is it just very, very different times now? we're just destined to have this as a part of our culture now. no. >> if you've got people in in jail for crimes, then they will be deported. i mean that the only question there is was 11,000 of them. yeah. the only question there is that the countries that are going to be deported to we have to have an agreement to with go and do that. so the people who have goneis that. so the people who have gone is because of that agreement. and when it comes to the, the, the numbers you're talking about, we won't know the numbers of people who are here unless we have a system like they do in the us , where you they do in the us, where you monitor people leaving the country as well as arriving. >> trevor, final word to you? >> trevor, final word to you? >> well, i think that we are unfortunately not able to blame the labour government for this because this is the legacy of 14 years of tory conservative rule, and they have failed. in fact , and they have failed. in fact, not just failed to cut the numbers, but have presided over the enormous expansion of the
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numbers . so the enormous expansion of the numbers. so this remarkably, although i think tony blair opened the gates to mass uncontrolled immigration, it's been fuelled by 14 years of conservative government, which puts me neatly in the position of handing over to sirjacob rees—mogg. >> state of the nation coming. it's all your fault, sirjacob. it's all your fault, sir jacob. >> well, we've seen in the last three months that it can get worse. so you may have thought the tories didn't do everything that they should have done, but the chaos of the last three months has been quite extraordinary, with sue gray being heave hoed out, sent into exile in the regions. i mean, it sounds like some russian novel, doesn't it, by one of those gloomy russian novelists . and gloomy russian novelists. and it's very bad for the government of this country. and it's fascinating because when you look through history, you go back to nero. nero gets rid of seneca. and when he does that, everything goes wrong. when leaders get rid of their closest advisors, they are in trouble themselves. somebody referred to sue gray as a lightning rod. you don't get rid of lightning rods. you keep them because what do
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they do? they take the lightning away from you. and starmer is now leaving the lightning going straight for him. >> we've got a quick 10s do you think this is the worst first hundred days of any prime minister in history? >> we're not necessarily . >> we're not necessarily. wellington had a second period of office where he only barely got beyond 100 days, so that wasn't enormously successful. >> okay, superb. we're just about to launch the massive history lesson there i was looking forward to. we've simply run out of time. so jacob, nigel, trevor, thank you very much. now coming up next is state of the nation. but first there's your weather with alex deakin. >> ooh a chilly start will give way to a lovely warm afternoon. boxt heat pumps sponsors of weather on gb news evening. >> welcome to your latest weather update from the met office here on gb news. further heavy showers to come this evening. some places seeing some thunderstorms and some gusty winds too. the reason? low pressure just sitting to the west of the uk. not really
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moving very far, but spiralling around it. these bands of showers drifting north with some very heavy downpours at the moment for south wales and south west england. we do have a met office yellow warning in place. those downpours head across the south—east. they'll be easing a little but still turning up some heavy showers over east anglia, the midlands, north wales and northern ireland. by the end of the night. clearer skies in southern scotland northern england will allow temperatures to dip to single figures, but for most a pretty mild night actually. and then tomorrow it's actually. and then tomorrow it's a case of watching more heavy showers with some brighter spells in between. may well be a fine start across east anglia, much of the south—east, but showers will quickly start to spread back in here. grey start for northern ireland some outbreaks of rain pushing north and that will spread into parts of scotland during the day. but through the central belt, probably a dry start. notice the northerly winds across northern scotland still been dull and damp here today. it won't be quite as wet tomorrow, but staying pretty grey and feeling
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cold with those winds. whereas in the south the winds are coming up from the south, bringing mild air but also bringing mild air but also bringing heavy showers. again, potential for some thundery downpours, some sunny spells in between but staying pretty drab across southeast scotland and north—east england. feeling cool here as well with the winds coming in from the sea, but in the south with a bit of sunshine we could again get 18 or 19 wednesday. again we'll be dodging the downpours, particularly over central and eastern england and this zone of wetter weather over southeast scotland and northeast england. a drier day, maybe for wales and southwest england. a little bit brighter as well, with some sunny spells, but again, with that wind coming down from the north, temperatures are going to struggle, going to turn colder for all of us by the end of the week . week. >> we can expect clear skies leading to a light and warm day ahead. lovely boxt
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well. >> hello. good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg on state of the nation. tonight. the labour government is in a crisis as sue gray loses the power struggle with morgan mcsweeney and is exiled to the regions. >> things can only get worse. >> things can only get worse. >> meanwhile, as today marks the anniversary of the 7th of october terrorist attacks on israel by hamas, israel has declared military victory over hamas. all eyes now turn to hezbollah and iran. labour's failure to deal with illegal migration gets worse. it sees another daily record for the year of channel crossings notched up on saturday, with nearly 1000 migrants, while a study reveals 1 in 100 people in the uk are here illegally. this is more than any other european nation. plus the relentless march of net zero de—industrialisation is putting hundreds of jobs at risk. tonight we will be assessing the impact of the closure of the grangemouth oil refinery, state of the nation starts now.
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