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martin daubney show on gb to the martin daubney show on gb news. we're broadcasting live from the heart of westminster and of course all across the uk on today's show in around about 30 minutes time, the tory leadership finalists will be whittled down to the final three. the bookies favourites is james cleverly, with robert jenrick a close second, but could kemi badenoch go long shots tom tugendhat pull off a last minute surprise. we'll be live from the commons for the results as soon as they come in, and the european court of human rights is under fire today on two separate fronts. firstly, it's allowed an illegal albanian immigrant to remain in britain to be with his lithuanian wife, who he got pregnant. so article eight protected his human rights to a family life. what a disgrace . and secondly, three disgrace. and secondly, three sas veterans have blasted the echr on the same day , saying it echr on the same day, saying it is hounding our betrayed military heroes over allegations of historic wrongdoings. i'll be
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joined by a former sas hero to ask him. the echr protects illegal immigrants and prosecutes national heroes. is it time to bite the bullet and scrap the echr .7 and later on scrap the echr.7 and later on today's show, i'll be joined by michael levy, an israeli whose brother was kidnapped and his sister in law executed by hamas terrorists on october seventh last year. in his tireless quest to free his brother, michael has met with over 50 presidents and ministers and has even prayed with the pope. he'll join me on today's show and a top university professor at oxford has claimed it takes students an astonishing three weeks to read astonishing three weeks to read a single book because they have no attention span these days. well , to discuss the decline of well, to discuss the decline of reading, i'll be joined by a bloke who sold quite a few books, 320 million. in fact, the legendary author sir jeffrey archer. that's all coming on today's show . what's the show?
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today's show. what's the show? so all eyes on the house of commons in around about 30 minutes time. we'll find out who the final three are in the conservative party leadership race. the drama will be played out in real time. our man, chris hope, will be there to deliver the results as they happen, and also to pounce on any parliamentarians he can get his mitts on as they go past for their reaction. also be joined in the studio by heather wheeler and denis macshane to get a live reaction from a conservative and a labour grandee. where's it going? does any of it matter? we'll find out in around about half an hour's time. get in touch. who do you want to be? the next leader? does it make any difference? will the party go back towards the centre with somebody like james cleverly, or will they lurch towards the right to try and out reform nigel farage with somebody like robert jenrick? where should they go ? what's your opinion? they go? what's your opinion? get in touch gbnews.com/yoursay. but now it's your news headlines with lewis mckenzie .
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with lewis mckenzie. >> good afternoon . it's 3:03. >> good afternoon. it's 3:03. i'm lewis mckenzie here in the gb newsroom. >> we start this hour with some breaking news. the director general of mi5 has warned that isis and al—qaeda are on the rise again, with an increased terror attack risk linked to conflict in the middle east. in a stark warning at the counter—terrorism operations centre, ken mcmullen revealed that iran has been linked to at least 20 deadly plots in the uk over the past two years. he says both groups are attempting to export terror , highlighting the export terror, highlighting the recent deadly attack in moscow as a brutal demonstration of what isis is capable of. as the conflict between israel and iran intensifies, mi5 is on high alert for potential domestic repercussions . sir keir starmer
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repercussions. sir keir starmer is set for crucial talks in berlin, joining leaders from the us , france and germany this us, france and germany this saturday. the meeting will focus on the ongoing war in ukraine and the escalating situation in the middle east. it comes as tensions rise in lebanon, prompting urgent diplomatic efforts among the so—called quad nations. efforts among the so—called quad nafions.the efforts among the so—called quad nations. the prime minister's spokesperson says the meeting highlights the uk's commitment to tackling international issues alongside its allies . water alongside its allies. water companies in england and wales have been ordered to return more than £157 million to customers for failing to meet crucial targets on pollution and interruption to supplies. ofwat has demanded. the money comes off bills for households and businesses from next year. it follows a previous order to repay £114 million last year.
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the uk population has seen its largest annual increase in size since 1971. the for office national statistics estimates the total population grew by 1% in just a year, reaching 68.3 million by mid 2023, covering england, scotland , wales and england, scotland, wales and northern ireland. the ons says migration was the main factor behind the latest rise, as deaths exceeded births by around 16,300. in the same period . the 16,300. in the same period. the race to lead the conservative party is in its final stages with just with just days left to decide the next opposition leader. four candidates are battling it out robert jenrick kemi badenoch, james cleverly and tom tugendhat. but by tonight , one and tom tugendhat. but by tonight, one sorry one will be eliminated. rather tomorrow, the big final two will be selected, leaving the conservative members
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to make the ultimate choice. this morning, shadow minister for education damian hinds told gb news there's a field of four standout candidates to choose from . from. >> we've not made a declaration. i think we've got four really strong candidates. obviously we've got we've got around today, another round tomorrow and then there will be the and then there'll be the members round. i took a decision at the start of the contest not to make a declaration until we got to that final, until we got to that final stage. but i think it's been a very well contested election. obviously, the party conference last week, that was a really important opportunity for people to set out their stall. and i think both party members and of course, the wider public got a chance to see all four of them in action. >> in the us now, donald trump marked one year anniversary of the hamas terror attacks on israel, calling it a nightmare. speaking to a packed ballroom at his miami golf club, the former president addressed a group of supporters blaming the rise of anti—semitism in the united states on the democrats.
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>> a lot of that has to do with the leadership of this country. this attack . on the october 7th this attack. on the october 7th attack would never have happened if i was president. i can tell you . you. >> and with just 29 days until the us elections, kamala harris has been facing questions on critical issues, including the middle east. in a one on one interview with cbs news. amid growing criticism over her limited media appearances, the vice president addressed topics like ukraine, gun ownership and immigration in one tense moment, she refused to call israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu a strong ally. after recent disagreements between the white house and jerusalem. >> but it seems that prime minister netanyahu is not listening. >> we are not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for the united states to be clear about where we stand on the need
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for this war to end . for this war to end. >> and finally, a 5051 florida counties are under a state of emergency. satellite images show the storm churning through the gulf of mexico, with winds reaching 180 miles an hour. forecasters are warning of an 8 to 12 foot storm surge, the highest ever for the region , and highest ever for the region, and widespread flooding. it comes just two weeks after hurricane helene claimed over 200 lives in the southeastern part of the united states . well, those are united states. well, those are your latest gb news headlines. i'm louis mackenzie. more from me in half an hour's time for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , sign up to to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com . code, or go to gbnews.com. >> forward slash alerts .
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>> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> thank you very much, louis. now it's nearly crunch time. the tory mps have voted and within the next half an hour, we'll find out who the final three candidates for the party's leadership race are the bookies favourites at the moment is mr james cleverly, with robert jenrick, a close second, but could kemi badenoch or even longshot tom tugendhat pull off a last minute surprise? well, for all the drama, let's get more now from our political editor chris hope, who is over there in westminster in parliament. chris, welcome to the show. so we're on the final furlong. this is what we've all been waiting for. the runners and the riders are ready to burst out of the traps. chris, what's the mood in parliament? who's most likely to win ? who's most likely to win? >> hi martin, welcome to the historic westminster hall where charles i was tried. all sorts of history has taken place here, and a small bit of history, tiny bit of history will be written . bit of history will be written. written today in history of the conservative party. there are
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four candidates to replace rishi sunak, the prime minister or the former prime minister. the leader, now robert jenrick kemi badenoch james cleverly and tom tugendhat . last time in the last tugendhat. last time in the last round of voting , chennai six round of voting, chennai six ahead on 33 mps backing him , ahead on 33 mps backing him, badenoch second on 28 and cleverley and tugendhat tied at 21. all . mel stride dropped out. 21. all. mel stride dropped out. so the big choice now for mps. here is where, to his 16 votes go to. it looks like some are going to jenrick. a lot will go to james cleverly, so i expect james cleverly to emerge. the leader after this. the third round of round of voting with probably generic second place, and i think you're going to see tom tugendhat dropping out, which means that overnight tonight, i expect badenoch and jenrick to be battling it out for second place. and the final two announced in 24 hours. time to go forward to the members, to the to the members who will then get the final say after we give them a chance to debate it on gb
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news on the evening of october 17th. so we're getting into the end game of a marathon so far. >> and chris, precisely our predictions for the for the final two were mr cleverly and mr jenrick and that if that happens will put the party at an existential crossroads, a fork in the path. does it go back towards the centre with james cleverly? he's the king of the centrists in this race, you'd have to say. or does the party move to the right to try and get into the territory now occupied by nigel farage? as reform can robert jenrick out farage mr farage, where do you think the party will go? morten morland where do the members. they're the most important people after the most important people after the final two are decided tomorrow. where do you think the members want to take the party? chris? >> well, the members have around 120,000 or so members. they are right at the centre. that is why they voted in liz truss. of course, when they had the last
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chance, the last time this vote was put to members and boris johnson before that, although he turned into quite a left wing prime minister with some of his policies on on immigration and tax. but i think yeah, i think it's a choice here. you've got the 4.2 million voters who backed reform at the last election . maybe three quarters election. maybe three quarters of them were former tory mps who are tory supporters. forgive me, who were having a demonstration against their own mps upset about the way that liz truss was removed and before that, boris johnson, and also the direction of travel and the policies of the government, of course. so, yeah, there's a choice here. i think. i mean, robert jenrick has been on his own journey and do mps here believe in him in that journey? he's now one who wants to advocate for the withdrawal from the european convention on human rights. james cleverly is not there yet, certainly not as tom tugendhat and kemi badenoch will review it. so he is to the right, certainly, of mps in the house, i mean, but maybe more in tune with the grassroots. and it goes back to the original problem with this party. the party is
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broadly centrist. the parliamentary party, but the base is to the right. parliamentary party, but the base is to the right . and how do base is to the right. and how do you square that circle? and that's what the next leader of this party will have to work out. >> and chris, isn't that the quandary we've seen since brexit? the party almost becoming two parties, the remain side, the leave side, and then the pro—immigration side, the pro—net zero side. the party has been divided. can there be one ring to rule them all, one ring to bind them? can james cleverly bnng to bind them? can james cleverly bring the party together, or does the party need to have a rebirth to decide it needs to go in a new direction with robert jenrick. that is the big question. is it not? yeah. >> and don't forget kemi badenoch and tom tugendhat two. they'll have a say over it. as things stand, there are still four contestants for this top job, but where they go next isn't clear. i mean, i interviewed all four of them for an hour each in front of 2000 members last week's conference, and i would ask them, you know, how will you deal with farage?
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is he welcome in the party? of course, rishi sunak said it's a broad church, the tory party almost offering a role for him for, for, for nigel farage. that's before he , he took over that's before he, he took over the part that reform uk and energised weaponised its membership to take out those chunks of support for the tory party. so the view is from from anyone who wins is they want to be more authentically conservative and stop almost apologising for being a tory. if you quote them back . james you quote them back. james cleverly from the party conference speech last week and stop apologising for being who they are again. we'll see how it plays out. i think last week you know, i think tom tugendhat had a difficult time in his final, his final speeches to members robert jenrick was enthusiastic but he is believable. but james cleverly spent the most money. he said he would act stamp duty off residential properties. he would lift spending on defence to 3% and kemi badenoch was more maybe authentic. i think she cut through the most to the viewers at home in the hall. james
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cleverly won, but some found him a bit a bit arrogant. so i think it's all to play for all four of them could lead the party. the party is spoilt for choice slightly, but it looks to me like we should see james cleverly emerge triumphant at 330, followed by robert jenrick. and then it's a battle between him and i think kemi badenoch to go to the final two. i think tom tugendhat drops out, but we'll wait and see. it could be wrong. there's only 119 tory mps voting here. it's not a big vote here of people, so it can be swayed by only a few going either way. >> okay, chris, so we'll keep your powder dry and be ready to leap like a cobra. we'll be back to you in about 15 minutes. time for when that results comes through. thank you very much for joining us there. from the historic westminster hall and joining me in the studio now, the former labour mp denis macshane and the former conservative mp heather wheeler . conservative mp heather wheeler. welcome to the studio to both of you. heather, i'd like to start with you, as a former conservative mp yourself, who's your money on and why? >> first of all, i haven't got a bet on. but secondly , i still
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bet on. but secondly, i still don't know how it's going to end up. i think it's actually going to be quite close and i understand, you know, the momentum that kevin got from conference, his speech was the most entertaining and gave you hope to the future. and that's what we absolutely need, because if we don't believe in ourselves, why should people vote for us? so that was really, really good generic. i still think is going to get there because he's talking to the base, the members and so although there were 2000 people in the room, all of whom were members, the cheers were more for cleverly because he was so upbeat and he actually captured the mood because all the usual media people have been saying, oh, this is going to be a doom fest, and everybody's going to be crying in the corner and all the rest of it. it wasn't. it was a great conference because you know, if this is the lowest point ever, you can only go up. can't you? >> yeah, i think then it's part
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of the problem, part of the issue there. while the conservatives seem to be having their wedding ceremony and the labour party having the funeral was because the labour party are doing so utterly, utterly, dismally. i mean, the poll today has the conservatives only one point behind. they haven't even got a blooming leader. and here we go. so they're pushing at an open door. but on a serious point from a labour perspective, as i said to chris, the party has a choice . now does it go has a choice. now does it go back towards that centre . and back towards that centre. and you've been saying all the time you've been saying all the time you win from the centre or do they go where the members want more for the red meat, more to water, right. what's your take? where should the party go and which avenue would the labour party most fear ? party most fear? >> impertinent for me, i think, to sort of give the conservative party any advice. >> but since you insist, martin, i'll. i'll try very simply. i mean, robert jenrick is the jeremy corbyn of this contest dedicated keen. his eyes swivel. he knows what he wants. he's got a belief. he's got a belief in trump. he's got the ghost of enoch powell there. he's sound on race, sound on muslims. sound on race, sound on muslims. sound on right. sound on joining up with president putin outside.
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nothing like corbyn then. so . nothing like corbyn then. so. well, you said it. you said it, you said it, not me. so in all seriousness , paradoxically, seriousness, paradoxically, i thought of all the four candidates, the one i worried about the most was tom tugendhat, because he just spoke to me as in the day, tory leaders once did like david cameron, or maybe even going back. cameron, or maybe even going back . heathrow is far too cameron, or maybe even going back. heathrow is far too young. she's only in her nappies then, but harold macmillan and alec douglas—home and people like that , and i douglas—home and people like that, and i think that would set a new tone in politics. but other than that , it'd be very other than that, it'd be very interesting if cleverly, sierra leone and english parents, tories had done pretty well. i mean, they've given us the first women pm, the first asian pm, indian pm and cleverly gets it the first afro—caribbean, afro—caribbean and english pm. labour hasn't even managed to find a woman to be leader yet.
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>> and it's almost like your labour party isn't the party of diversity. i digress, heather, you've been involved in these things before. you cast your votes, can you give us a flavour of what would be going on now? the skulduggery, the manoeuvring, the kind of favours, the grace in favours, what goes on now ? they're all what goes on now? they're all knuckling down. we're 20 minutes, ten minutes away from the decision. what's going on now? >> so ten minutes away from the decision. the voting will have stopped. and so it's run by the 1922 committee. and as you know, iused 1922 committee. and as you know, i used to be on the 1922 executive and ran for chair of it. and so the new chair, poor old bob blackman, has inherited this coming in because sir graham brady has retired. and so they actually the executive run they actually the executive run the votes. they borrow a big committee room and the supporters and the candidates stand outside in the corridor and try and nab you on the way in and give you a wink or pat you on the back as you go in to try and think that that last second will twist your vote to, to their benefit . there are to their benefit. there are stories from previous leadership
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elections that certain very successful people in the whips office who have got nothing to do with the voting whatsoever. the whips always stay out of it, and i was a whip as well, and that that they might have suggested that maybe if you lend that vote to somebody that'll knock out somebody else and i don't know if you could ever prove any of that, but it does obviously go on this kind of backroom manoeuvring and skulduggery in terms of just the mechanics of how the candidates find out how the mps find out how is the announcement made. they the chairman of the 22 committee stands up in the classic committee room 14 and has it live on television and will read it out in truth , i will read it out in truth, i don't remember the candidates being told beforehand, but maybe they've changed the rules because bob blackman is the new chairman of the 22 and he can invent the rules as he pleases. >> so the most likely thing is they will find out at the same time as every other member of parliament. >> yeah, it could be that
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they've been tipped the wink just to, you know, keep smiling or sit next to the next person they want to win next to make sure that people see where the vote should go, perhaps. >> and in terms of the metrics we talked about with jim rig on 33 badenoch on 28 mel stride, of course , drops out 16 votes course, drops out 16 votes floating there , as chris hopes floating there, as chris hopes that they'll most likely fold into james cleverly the same political viewpoints. tom tugendhat, if he is to fall out, he's got 21. if you add all of that up, it just about has robert jenrick ahead . if all of robert jenrick ahead. if all of kemi badenoch votes as a right wing candidate fold into robert jenrick, but you don't think that will happen, do you think that will happen, do you think that they'll they'll be split there and that could start to put that could start to put james cleverly actually just nosing it. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and but i mean i'm really pleased about that because the it means that the parliamentarians have had a vote, but it will be close, which means that whoever the last two are, everybody will accept. and that's what's really
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important. it's about party unity and about everybody coming behind whoever the new leader is. >> so it's is.- >> so it's a is. >> so it's a great show. heather and dennis. now don't go anywhere. they'll be crossing live to the palace of westminster as we find out the final three tory candidates for party leader. and that's next. i'm martin daubney on gb news. president sukarno
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welcome back. 3:25. i'm martin daubney on gb news now. it's nearly crunch time. we're minutes away from finding out the final three candidates in the final three candidates in the tory leadership race, as the party's mps vote to further whittle down the field. now, the former immigration minister, robert jenrick, remains the favourite as he still has the most public backers. but shadow home secretary james cleverly appears to be gaining momentum after a strong showing at the
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conservative party conference. in fact, he has now got the bookies favourite. he's he's coming up as the favourite to win. he is currently at 11 to 10. he has also been given a major boost with the endorsement of mel stride, who of course his 16 supporters in the last round could be key in such a tight race. well, let's come to the studio now before we go back to chris. hope for those results live. i'm joined by the former labour mp denis mcshane and of course the former conservative mp heather wheeler . welcome back mp heather wheeler. welcome back to the show. heather . so can we to the show. heather. so can we expect this result to be announced on time, or could there be some manana and some faffing? >> no. bob blackman is a very strict new chairman of the 2022 and i'm sure he'll get it on time. >> so that's coming up round about three and a half, four minutes. i want to go live for that result as it's announced. so tell us about the butterflies, the nerves, the drama . what literally stood in drama. what literally stood in the corridor now waiting to see the corridor now waiting to see the tv feed. >> everybody will be back in committee room 14 and it'll be
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live. i believe it'll be live in committee room 14. so the candidates tend to sit on the front row of the committee chairs and the chairman of the 22 and the secretary and the and the treasurer stand up on the dais and people will be standing right at the back. the whips and other friends like that, and everybody else will be crawling in. now, as it happens, there's a really important debate going on opposition day debate in the chamber about putting vat on school fees. so, i mean, i've got private schools in south derbyshire, but the majority of the private schools in south derbyshire have sen kids that the county council pay to go for. i mean, what a complete waste of everybody's money. i mean it's ridiculous. >> we can talk more about that in a bit. heather, you're clearly passionate about that. but let's get more now on the leadership race and go straight back to gb news political editor chris hope live there for us in the historic westminster hall. chris, what's the latest? we're moments away . moments away. >> the moment awaits. yeah . i >> the moment awaits. yeah. i mean, i've been talking to
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senior tory mps just over there in central lobby and the view is that robert jenrick has to show movement forward. i mean, the feeling is that the kemi badenoch campaign is slightly stalling. that tory mps are worried about the misspeak over maternity pay on the first sunday of the tory conference. you have to do a video and a tweet and then a clip with a with a broadcaster to explain what she meant about an attack on angela rayner's plans on business regulation . so the view business regulation. so the view is that tory mps are now nervous about her, when it should really be her contest to lose , because be her contest to lose, because she's so far ahead amongst the membership who do warm to her authenticity. so the feeling is we're going to see votes surge towards james cleverly. robert jenrick edges forward slightly and then it'd be then badenoch in third place and tugendhat falling out is still the view here in central lobby. but as heather knows, as a former senior whip , anything can senior whip, anything can happen. it's a very, very
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sophisticated electorate. the tory party, particularly when it's so small, 119 mps voting. but that's the way it looks at the moment, martin, and we can see live pictures on the screen there. >> heather wheeler that's committee room 14. is it . that's committee room 14. is it. that's where the announcement will take place. talk us through what happensin place. talk us through what happens in that room, the dynamics of it. we're about a minute away now okay. >> so either side normally where you're having a committee, it would be the left hand side would be the left hand side would be the government side, the right hand side, the opposition. but on these on this occasion it's everybody together. and the chairman of the 22, secretary of the treasury , 22 stand on top of the treasury, 22 stand on top of the dais. and they're just coming in now. how. >> now. >> looks like they're just coming in now , chris, hope the coming in now, chris, hope the announcement looks to be a matter of moments away . chris. matter of moments away. chris. >> okay. yeah. just just watch closely. so basically robert jenrick on 33. he's got to move forward . here we go. forward. here we go. >> let's go to it . election. >> let's go to it. election. >> let's go to it. election. >> i can declare the result of the third ballot in the
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leadership contest. >> 120 votes were cast and the votes for each candidate were as follows . kemi badenoch 30. james follows. kemi badenoch 30. james cleverly 39. robert jenrick 31 and tom tugendhat 20. so as a result of that ballot, tom tugendhat is eliminated from the contest and the next ballot, the fourth ballot, will take place tomorrow between 130 and 3:00 pm. in this space between the top three candidates of kemi badenoch james cleverly and robert jenrick. the result will be announced tomorrow at 330. thank you very much for your attendance . just hold that over attendance. just hold that over for a second. >> can you ? >> can you? >> can you? >> and that's the historic banging of the desks there. to those in attendance , just to those in attendance, just to quickly go over those votes. there was a gasp in the studio from heather wheeler. dramatic swing towards james cleverly,
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now 39 votes as the winner . now 39 votes as the winner. second place robert jenrick and third place kemi badenoch and in fourth place. now eliminated. tom tugendhat, bob blackman there, the chairman of the party making the announcement, chris hope. we predicted that that would maybe the pecking order, but a dramatic surge there towards james cleverly, who's done very, very well in this round of voting . round of voting. >> yeah. well, what we forecast that that cleverly would win if i'm robert jenrick, i'm worrying right now because he was on 33 mps. he's now falling back by 2 to 31. kevin badenoch has gained 2 to 30. and i'm i'm not sure why i'm heather wheeler is gasping i mean i think that jenrick is now in trouble and he wasn't in trouble until now because it looks like kemi badenoch has momentum that robert robert jenrick may not have. he's losing momentum and that's and in this game you want to always have forward motion in all of politics, particularly
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with the tory backbench mps, james cleverly is now for me, he's one short of the 40. you need to be a candidate in the final two. he's nailed on, i think to be in the final two with 20 mps overnight. now deciding where to put their x in the box, i reckon half of those from tom tugendhat might go to james cleverly. he is now the winner. i think of this contest but the battle now is for second place. is it robert jenrick or kemi badenoch? and for me badenoch narrowly has momentum and that wasn't what i was expecting . expecting. >> now chris very, very surprised. and i think that in fact, heather wheeler was saying she was gasping for that precise reason that we seem to have gone into reverse with the jenrick team and in fact, all the talk at conference was of kemi badenoch putting her foot in it. as you said prior about maternity, but that hasn't transpired . so there's been some transpired. so there's been some wheelie dealing behind the scenes and we now have a clear decision to make. who's going to
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vote for who in that second round? before, it looked like robert jenrick would be the nailed on right wing candidate. if you like. but now it's all to play if you like. but now it's all to play for with kemi badenoch, team. >> that's right, jenrick is losing momentum. i mean literally losing momentum. he's lost two two mps in support between the voting before the conference season and now badenoch is adding support. she has momentum .james badenoch is adding support. she has momentum . james cleverly has momentum. james cleverly he's he's a front runner. he's won basically as far as i'm concerned. but the battle overnight, the battle in the in the bars here in westminster, all the all the tea, the drinking. and so it goes on late into the evening will be where do those 20 votes for tom tugendhat go overnight. will and will. enough go to badenoch to mean she beats jenrick and we are now looking at what i wasn't expecting, which was a james cleverly versus kevin badenoch final two. but it's so narrowly divided between jenrick and badenoch, it's impossible to call that right now. but for me, as things stand, i think james cleverly has won the right to take one of the berths going
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forward to the to the membership this time tomorrow and the crucial point, the fascinating task ahead, chris, is when this goes to the membership, let's just play a game here. >> let's just say that this is mr cleverly and it's versus miss badenoch. and you said before that the membership or excited they're moved by miss badenoch. it doesn't really matter who wins the mps vote when it goes to down the members. there still could be a late surprise in this . could be a late surprise in this. >> well, it really could be now. i was i was i was on >> well, it really could be now. iwas i was i was on i >> well, it really could be now. i was i was i was on i was on stage for four hours each of the candidates a week ago , grilling candidates a week ago, grilling them on behalf of the 2000 members in the hall there, the official tory party hustings. there's no question that james cleverly was the best performer. they loved him. he pushed all the right buttons . they loved him. he pushed all the right buttons. he's they loved him. he pushed all the right buttons . he's buttons. the right buttons. he's buttons. he's a former party chairman. he knows how to make it work with, with those in the hall. but
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there's a very interesting focus groups done that night by more in common, and they found that kemi badenoch won that , that kemi badenoch won that, that that battle because she came across as much more authentic . across as much more authentic. and james cleverly, i'm afraid to say, was seen to be a bit arrogant on the tv on that narrow sort of tv footage that the focus group were watching. so in the hall cleverly carries the day, but maybe what one, what might really matter when it goes to down it, down the line on on tv? there can authenticity of kemi badenoch, who is a work in progress in a way that james cleverly isn't cleverly, of course, a former home secretary, party course, a former home secretary, party chairman, foreign secretary and a miss one of his jobs there. but he had all these all these roles. he's well experienced in being a leader and at the very, very top table of cabinet kemi badenoch less so, obviously, a former business secretary, but someone who who is an engineer, she says she wants to fix the party. and if they do choose kevin badenoch and she gets the final two, that shows the party maybe is being honest with itself about the
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challenges facing 109 121 mps miles away from labour. they might need a complete overhaul, which someone like kevin badenoch would do, but with her comes risk. she says what she thinks she can't abide a lot of journalism or journalists in the way we pursue stories. she finds it frustrating, she has no patience with us and that's maybe why a lot of the members quite like her. so i think a lot, a lot to play for. but right now, though, martin and heather guests kevin, kevin badenoch is back in the game and she wasn't earlier . she wasn't earlier. >> an excellent summary and chris hope maybe is a good judge of character. she doesn't like journalists. there's lots more still to come between now and 4:00, chris, and we'll keep bringing you more reaction as tom tugendhat has now been eliminated from the tory leadership contest. well, eliminated from the tory leadership contest. well , james leadership contest. well, james cleverly topped the voting
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welcome back. it's 340 on martin daubney on gb news. now let's return now to the breaking news that tom tugendhat has been dramatically eliminated from the tory leadership contest, while james cleverly topped the voting, the results of the latest round of voting were as follows. kemi badenoch on 30 votes. james cleverly way out in front on 39 . robert jenrick front on 39. robert jenrick second place on 31, but dropping two votes in the process and tom tugendhat eliminated on 20 votes. now let's get the latest reaction now with our political edhon reaction now with our political editor, chris hope, who is still there with us in westminster hall. chris, i believe you have a guest for us. >> that's right. martin. well, welcome back to westminster hall, which has seen some drama over the centuries, but maybe not as not as big a surge in support overnight as as james cleverly has got 21 to 39 mps now, almost certain to make the
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final two. and with me is one of his supporters, greg smith mp. greg, are you amazed about this huge 18 mp support for your man? >> we're really pleased with the result. it builds on the hugely positive week james had at party conference in birmingham last week. colleagues are getting behind his vision. they accept, they see the polling that's come out today that shows he is closest to already going ahead of keir starmer in some of the numbers. we've got to have a leader who's ready to go from day one. james built that momentum. momentum in birmingham last week and we've seen the results of it today. but i'm equally mindful we've got to do it all over again overnight for the vote tomorrow. >> do you? isn't he a shoo in now for the final two? >> we're taking nothing for granted. we're going to be talking to colleagues again overnight. james will be making many phone calls because to take anything for granted in this game is a really stupid thing to do. and so, yeah, we're delighted with the result, but we're taking nothing for granted and we've got to do it all over again tomorrow. >> he's had a bit of a wobble the past few days since the conference over the chagos,
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chagos islands sovereignty issue being handed to mauritius. those talks started on his watch when he was the foreign secretary. is that not damaged him? >> look, james inherited that position as foreign secretary. no deal was done while he was foreign secretary . it's only foreign secretary. it's only taken the labour government a couple of months and they've rolled over. james did no such deal >> but do you think tonight, james cleverly. where will he be? he'll be in the bars. will he be strong arm people to vote for him tomorrow? look, there'll be conversations happening. >> i'm sure there'll be conversations happening from all of the remaining leadership contenders. we're going to remain relentlessly positive as we have been throughout this whole campaign. james will be to talking people. people on james's behalf will be talking to people because we know we've got to do it all over again tomorrow. taking nothing for granted but building on the positive result we've had today. >> just you and me talking now, greg smith, who would you rather face in the final two? robert jenrick or kemi badenoch? >> they're all great colleagues. i believe james is the best placed candidate to lead our party, to get us back into a position where we can excite the british public about the conservatives again and win the next general election. but they're all conservatives in this race. i think james is the
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best one to do it. >> and if he gets there, will he demand this contest ends before the budget? so you've finally got james cleverly or whoever leads the party to take on rachel reeves budget, which will set the tone for the entire next five years. >> look, we'll play by the rules of this contest that have been set out. we're not going to be demanding anything about that. the rules have been set out. we're playing by the rules of the game, and we're going to set out to win this and to get james to be the leader of the conservative party. >> and just finally, james cleverly has got what it takes, do you think, to lead? i mean, he was seen as a bit arrogant if i can say so. according to some of the focus groups, last week he won the hall at the conference. but maybe, maybe there's something about him which people don't like. >> no, james has the experience from the great offices of state he's taken. he's a proven winner. he was our party chairman when we last won a big majority in the country in 2019. the polls that have been coming out today have his numbers the best of any of those contenders up against keir starmer, up against this failing labour government. and i think he is ready to go from day one. he is ready to go from day one. he is ready to go as leader of the opposition and get us back into
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government in five years. >> greg smith, thank you. that's greg smith there. a victorious greg smith there. a victorious greg smith there. a victorious greg smith a key ally there of james. james cleverly in what was a dramatic day here in westminster. and with me now is john cooper, who's a supporter of robert jenrick john cooper. your guy is losing momentum, isn't he? >> no, not at all. i mean, this was always going to be quite tight, this vote. and it's likely there's going to be a little bit of tactical voting. so i think we've probably seen that. the key thing is to get through and we're back in tomorrow still in the fight absolutely confident. >> but he's slipping back. his votes fell from 33 to 31. we thought after i thought he'd be more like 3536. >> well i think we our game plan was to get through and we've done that. and there's a slight slippage. as i say, i think that's tactical voting different, different position. tomorrow. >> would you say that it's a basically a straight fight now, a fist fight if you like, between robert jenrick and kevin badenoch for second place. >> i think more likely i think roberts through to to the the final. i think it's pretty i'm pretty confident of that. who is with him in that final? i think that's that's still very much up in the air.
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>> it's those tom tugendhat votes, the 20 mps now who backed him in the third round. where will they go? will they fall equally. and which could could mean it could go either way. >> so this is the big question obviously is what happens to those people who supported tom and what i think is great about robert is that he has drawn support from both the right and the left of the party. he's got people like mark francois, who i think would say is on the right, john lamont, who i would think is more on the left. so rob, i think has got the ability to pull together those people. and i think he will attract a lot of those. tom tugendhat voters, but he makes people nervous. >> he's quite a moderate tory party threatened to withdraw from the echr, while popular with the base, may alienate a lot of voters at the next election. >> so i think there's lots of issues out there and this idea of the lurch to the right that rob represents, i think that's nonsense. i think rob is all about common ground, and he talks a lot of sense. and i think one of the key things is that echr, i think renegotiating derogating from parts of it, it's not going to fly. we've got to get out. >> and what will he be doing tonight? will he be with him in the bars wandering around gladhanding trying to get those those missing 20 to come towards his, his flag? >> well, if there's any justice,
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ihope >> well, if there's any justice, i hope there's a drink in it for us. somewhere along the line. but yeah, i mean, obviously, you know, we will be talking to colleagues and just seeing where we are. and, you know, it's a shame because i've said before this is like the tories have got talent. how marvellous it is that we've got wonderful talent. we've lost tom. he is a great potential leader, there is no doubt about that. he was in it to win it as well. but i think rob is coming through strong. >> how will that happen? will it be drinks, parties? is there a meeting planned? >> so we've got votes tonight. so a lot of us are still going to be on the estate. so i think we'll be seeing a lot of our colleagues in the lobbies. >> and the question now is who will tom tugendhat back? i guess there'll be lots of offers from there'll be lots of offers from the from the three remaining candidates to him. >> yes. i mean, i think that's again, obviously what you know, what tom says is likely to sway some of his supporters. absolutely. i'm not sure whether he will say anything at all. he's not obliged to. of course, he may keep his own counsel, but i think as i say, we've got a lot of talent within the party. and i think it's great that we've got such great people and whoever wins. >> the numbers are so tight now with james cleverly on 39 robert jenrick 31 kemi badenoch 30, the
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possibility of a tie is now possible . possible. >> theoretically that was always possible, but i think, as i say, a bit of tactical voting today, i think this will concentrate people's minds. i think we'll have a decisive result tomorrow, and then we go forward with two people, one of whom i am confident will be robert jenrick. okay. >> john cooper there, john cooper there. one of the mps supporting robert jenrick. and we're waiting for a spokesperson or an mp supporter of kemi badenoch to come to our place here. >> chris hope. excellent reaction there. live in the palace of westminster. we'll come back to you throughout the show for more as you grab those guests as they go by. excellent work. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel now. tomorrow three will become two in the race to become the next tory party leader. then they'll go through to head to head on the 17th of october. here exclusively on gb news. stick with
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reminder of the breaking news. tom tugendhat has been eliminated from the tory leadership race, remaining or kemi badenoch, james cleverly and robert jenrick and let's get the latest reaction now with our political editor chris hope, who's still there in the palace of westminster. chris, what's the latest ? the latest? >> yeah, martin, we're expecting to get a spokesman for kemi badenoch campaign after the 4:00 news break. but i think it's fascinating. i think it's all about tonight now. i mean, with just with 20 votes to be shared out amongst the final three, you could have it that there's a tie between. well, any of them could tie. i mean, we could , we could tie. i mean, we could, we could see january kemi badenoch tied or even all three tied because 120 mp5 or even all three tied because 120 mps voted in that ballot rather than 119 last time. the one who isn't voting i know is richard fuller. he's the chairman. he told me he won't vote. that means that rishi sunak has voted. looks like for the first time we think he hadnt the first time we think he hadn't voted in previous rounds. you could have 40, 40, 40. quite possibly. if that happens, we go
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into another round of voting tomorrow night and again until we get to the final two. this battle has just got very interesting. i think . interesting. i think. >> is that likely, chris, that we'll have this dramatic, you know, triple header , dramatic know, triple header, dramatic photo finish or will the shenanigans be going on now? the horse trading begins. >> well, there's no question that horse trading has begun. if it hadn't started already james cleverly, he's eight ahead of robert jenrick and nine ahead of badenoch. so i think he looks like he should get there. but as i say, all these these votes could fall difficultly i think for both jenrick and badenoch. but for me cleverly is in the final two. >> okay, great. thanks chris. we'll come back to you of course, after the news break. let's get back to studio now for the reaction of denis macshane former labour mp and the former conservative mp heather wheeler. dennis, let's get straight back to you. what would you do now if you were one of these remaining three candidates? >> i think where i robert jenrick, i would say i'm not
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going to get it. i've lost votes. the penultimate round, thatis votes. the penultimate round, that is it. and i urge all my followers to support the candidate closest to my worldview of what should happen for the tory party, and that is kemi badenoch . and they should kemi badenoch. and they should think very seriously about voting for her. james cleverly is a dear friend and colleague , is a dear friend and colleague, will always have a high position in the tory party, but the person who is our margaret thatcher, this year and the next few years, i think, is kemi badenoch. okay. >> heather wheeler, final word to you . what happens next? to you. what happens next? >> well, if we're going to do horse trading, if i was generic, i would say to tugendhat, give your votes to me. i will make your votes to me. i will make you shadow defence secretary, and then we will bring your people along and because that's the job i think that two cannot really wants. >> do you? i bet today makes you miss politics, doesn't it? >> i don't miss politics. i miss being there. >> superb. thank you very much. heather wheeler, denis macshane and excellent hour we have there now . coming and excellent hour we have there now. coming up a lot more between now and 6:00, including the story of a convicted
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albanian thief, a burglar who used an echr loophole to stay in the uk despite having already been deported. guess what? he married a lithuanian and had a child and he had ot under article eight. under article eight of the echr, the right to a life in britain paid for by the british taxpayer. happy days. i'm martin daubney on gb news british news channel. now here's your weather with alex burkill . burkill. >> expect a warm front moving from the kitchen right through to the rest of the house. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news . gb news. >> hello. very good day to you. here's your latest gb news weather update coming to you from the met office on what could be quite a thundery tuesday for some of us. yes , tuesday for some of us. yes, there will be some sunny spells around, but also plenty of showers because low pressure is dominating the story and this low pressure is leading to quite an unsettled , unstable picture
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to you. it's 4:00 pm and welcome to you. it's 4:00 pm and welcome to the martin daubney show here on gb news. we're broadcasting live from the heart of westminster and all across the uk. on today's show. in the last half an hour, the quartette of candidates for the conservative leader has now become a trio, with shadow security minister tom tugendhat the latest to be eliminated. we'll have the reaction to this news throughout prosecutes national heroes. is it time tt0)ite the bullet prosecutes national heroes. is it time tt0)ite tnewsillet prosecutes national heroes. is the rest of today's show and the it time tt0)ite tnews throughout reaction to this news throughout the rest of today's show and the european court of human rights european court of human rights is under fire today after it is under fire today after it allowed an illegal albanian allowed an illegal albanian immigrants to remain in britain immigrants to remain in britain to be with his lithuanian wife, to be with his lithuanian wife, who he got pregnant. so article who he got pregnant. so article eight protected his human right eight protected his human right to a family life. happy days. to a family life. happy days. and secondly, three sas veterans and secondly, three sas veterans have blasted the echr, saying it have blasted the echr, saying it is hounding our betrayed is hounding our betrayed military heroes over allegations military heroes over allegations of historic wrongdoing. i'll be of historic wrongdoing. i'll be joined by a former sas hero to joined by a former sas hero to ask him the echr protects ask him the echr protects illegal immigrants yet illegal immigrants yet prosecutes national heroes. is prosecutes national heroes. is
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it time to bite the bullet it time to bite the bullet and scrap the echr ? and yesterday, scrap the echr? and yesterday, foreign secretary david lammy was heckled and even laughed at in the commons as he surrendered the chagos islands to mauritius. one of the mps there, mark francois,
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one of the mps there, mark fran(the pope. it's an with the pope. it's an astonishing story and that's all coming on today's show. astonishing story and that's all coming on today's show . welcome coming on today's show. welcome to the show. well, it seems the clever money was on. james cleverly romped to home victory with 39 votes, putting on an astonishing 18 votes as the clear runaway winner in today's tory leadership . final three. tory leadership. final three. what does that say to you? the party it seems now, is going back towards the centre ground. can they win from the centre? should they go towards the right? will they be happy at reform party hq? let me know your thoughts. go to gbnews.com/yoursay. but now it's your headlines and here's lewis mckenzie . mckenzie. >> thank you very much, martin. good afternoon . it's 4:00. i'm good afternoon. it's 4:00. i'm lewis mckenzie here in the gb newsroom. now we'll start this
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hour with the breaking news from just about half an hour ago. james cleverly has overtaken robert jenrick to the top spot in the latest round of voting to be the next leader of the conservative party. cleverly leads the pack with 39 votes, robert jenrick second with 31 and kemi badenoch third on 30. tom tugendhat has now been eliminated from the race, with only 20 votes. the final two will be decided at the next round of voting tomorrow afternoon . now the director afternoon. now the director general of m15 has warned that isis and al—qaeda are on the rise again, with an increased terror risk linked to the conflict in the middle east. in a stark warning at the counter—terrorism operations centre, ken mccallum revealed that iran has been linked to at least 20 deadly plots in the uk over the past two years. he says both groups are attempting to export terror. highlighting the recent deadly attacks in moscow
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as a brutal demonstration of what isis is capable of. as the conflict between israel and iran intensifies. m15 is on high alert for potential domestic repercussions . sir keir starmer repercussions. sir keir starmer is set for crucial talks in berlin, joining leaders from the us, france and germany this saturday. the meeting will focus on the ongoing war in ukraine and the escalating situation in the middle east. it comes as the rise in tensions in lebanon , rise in tensions in lebanon, promoting urgent diplomatic efforts among the so—called quad nations. efforts among the so—called quad nafions.the efforts among the so—called quad nations. the prime minister's spokesperson says. the meeting highlights the uk's commitment to tackling international issues alongside its allies . now, water alongside its allies. now, water companies in england and wales have been ordered to return more than £157 million to customers for failing to meet crucial targets on pollution and
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interruption of supplies. ofwat has demanded that money comes off bills for households and businesses from next year. it follows a previous to order repay £114 million last year. the uk population has seen its largest annual increase in size since 1971. the office for national statistics estimates the total population grew by 1% in just a year, reaching 68.3 million by mid 2023, covering england, scotland , wales and england, scotland, wales and northern ireland. the ons says migration was the main factor behind the latest rise, as deaths exceeded births by around 16,300. in the same period . in 16,300. in the same period. in the us now. donald trump marked one year on since the anniversary of the hamas attack on israel, calling it a nightmare. speaking to a packed ballroom at his miami golf club,
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the former president addressed a group of supporters blaming the rise of anti—semitism in america to the democrats . to the democrats. >> a lot of that has to do with the leadership of this country. this attack . on the october 7th this attack. on the october 7th attack, would never have happened if i was president. i can tell you , staying in america can tell you, staying in america now, it's just 29 days until the us elections. >> and kamala harris has been facing questions on critical issues , including the middle issues, including the middle east amid a growing criticism over her limited media appearances. the vice president addressed topics like ukraine, gun ownership and immigration in one tense moment, she refused to call israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu a strong ally. after recent disagreements between the white house and jerusalem. >> but it seems that prime minister netanyahu is not listening. >> we are not going to stop
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pursuing what is necessary for the united states to be clear about where we stand on the need for this to war end . for this to war end. >> and finally, 51 floridian counties are under a state of emergency due to the incoming hurricane milton. satellite images show the storm churning through the gulf of mexico, with winds reaching 180 miles an houn winds reaching 180 miles an hour. forecasters are warning of an 8 to 12 foot storm surge, the highest ever in the region. and of course , widespread flooding. of course, widespread flooding. it comes as just two weeks after hurricane helene claimed over 200 lives in the southeastern parts of the united states . parts of the united states. well, those are your latest gb news headlines. i'm lewis mckenzie. there's more from me in half an hour. now it's back to martin for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts .
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gbnews.com forward slash alerts. >> thank you, lewis mckenzie. smoother than an otter's wallet. now, in the last half an hour , now, in the last half an hour, shadow security minister tom tugendhat has been eliminated from the conservative leadership race, meaning the quartette of candidates has now become a trio. here is the moment the result was announced and declare the result of the third ballot in the leadership contest. >> 120 votes were cast, and the votes for each candidate were as follows. kemi badenoch, 30. james cleverly 39. robert jenrick, 31, and tom tugendhat, 20. so as a result of that ballot, tom tugendhat is eliminated from the contest . eliminated from the contest. >> well, that's a dramatic
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change of fortunes there for james cleverly. let's get more on this now with gb news political editor chris hope. chris, an astonishing surge into pole position by james cleverly putting on 18 votes. he took every every vote. it seems that mel stride had to offer from the previous round the wheels seem to be coming off of the jenrick camp. meanwhile, kemi badenoch still could have the champagne on ice to all play for. >> it is indeed marginal. welcome back to the historic westminster hall, which has seen its own fair share of political drama over the centuries, and today the tory party has added just a bit of its own. with this result in the third round of voting in the tory leadership contest. just to summarise there, james cleverly surging ahead with nearly doubling his number of mps backing him from 21 to 39. robert jenrick down two at 31. kemi badenoch up two at 30 so the former security minister, tom tugendhat, drops out. we've got reaction now from
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the main players. kemi badenoch says. it's a very tight race and i'll continue fighting for every vote, she says. it's also clear from every independent poll and survey that support from members is surging . that kemi badenoch is surging. that kemi badenoch james cleverly now the very clear front runner, he's saying the job isn't finished. i am excited to keep spreading our positive conservative message . positive conservative message. no word yet from robert jenrick camp, which we're waiting to see a tweet or a text message. nothing at all. also, very interestingly, a spokesman quote here from kemi badenoch team and this for me summarises what's going to happen tonight in parliament. the spokesman says for kemi badenoch, bev turner badenoch , there are three badenoch, there are three candidates left in this contest. two are gaining votes. that's her. and james cleverly, and one's going backwards and losing support. that's jenrick, the right of the tory party. the spokesman says now needs to coalesce around kemi, who can reach across and unify the party, has the star quality to cut through in opposition and is
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indisputably the members choice for leader. so very clear to me that tonight it's all about where do the right wing go? do they go to jenrick or badenoch? and right now badenoch has momentum. >> an astonishing turnaround of events chris. thank you very much for that excellent update. of course we'll track back to you in westminster hall throughout the show for more reaction. as james cleverly , now reaction. as james cleverly, now the clear front runner, will robert jenrick reconsider, perhaps, and tip into the badenoch camp in return for the promise of something down the line. certainly all to play for now. moving on to another huge story today. an albanian criminal who sneaked back into britain after being deported has won the right to stay under the european convention on human rights to be with his pregnant lithuanian girlfriend. now can you believe this? it's an astonishing story. and let's move on. because is tory leadership robert jenrick right. this debate now is about is the only way to stop the boats, to leave the echr. and joining me
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now to discuss this case is the human rights lawyer, david hay. david, welcome to the show . david, welcome to the show. david. so once again, we talk about the beloved european convention on human rights. this time all day it's been a 32 year old albanian deported after six months of a two and a half year jail sentence for burglary, simply came back to the country , simply came back to the country, got his girlfriend pregnant and now we can't get him out of the country because of his rights to a family life. david hay, tell me. try and make me some. make some sense of this insanity. >> good. good afternoon. martin. i think i think on this one i think certainly we can't yet blame the european courts. you know, this case started ten years ago. and if you look back into the case when it started, ten years ago, when the man came illegally, i believe, on a on in the back of a truck to, to the uk. and you've seen ten years of basically complete failure. so a decade of failure from the home office, from our british
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judiciary, from the politicians , judiciary, from the politicians, even, you know, back in i think it was in 2014 or 2015, theresa may, when she was home secretary, tried issued a note to the judiciary to try and stop article eight, which is a right to family life, from being a bar to family life, from being a bar to deporting foreign criminals. but that wasn't done properly. it was a note , not actual it was a note, not actual legislation. nothing ever happened. and ten years on in the conservative government, they didn't address the issue. so the reason why this man has been able to gain the system, i think we need to look a little bit closer to home at this stage. yes, it's still the human rights laws that's in enabling to stay here, but nothing was donein to stay here, but nothing was done in those ten years. >> but the fact of the matter remains this does it not. david sends out a clear message that even if you're deported, even if you've been to jail, even if you've been to jail, even if you've got no right to remain in the country, you can simply somehow get your way back in and get somebody pregnant . and you get somebody pregnant. and you can't be kicked out. the way to stay in the country is just to
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get married and have a baby. it doesn't matter if you came here legally in the first place. at that point, we become simply toothless to deport anybody. >> well, absolutely. i agree with you. i mean, you know, this is not this is, you know, certainly, on the face of it, a man gaming human rights laws which were there to protect the most vulnerable. and he certainly doesn't seem to be the most vulnerable. and that sends obviously a very bad message to, to others wanting to game the system. but it's our politicians and our judiciary that you know, at the end of the day, it was our judiciary that came to the conclusion that he couldn't be deported because of his lithuanian wife and his child. here. it was their interpretation of the laws. it was also the failure of the politicians to address issues in not being able to deport people under under human rights law. so until those things are fixed and their medium to long term things, they're not quick fixes. we're going to keep seeing this problem again and again and again. and here we are again. and i don't see any changes any time soon, because there's so
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much work that needs to be done. >> and yet also today, david hay, the echr is under the in the crossfires because it's been utilised against sas members. again, it's like it's like historic cases of where there may have been perceived wrongdoings in the field of battle by national heroes. you know , servicemen, the echr can know, servicemen, the echr can be weaponized against them because of the human rights of those who must been, who may have been killed on duty. so i put it to you. the echr came out post war. winston churchill supported it to protect the human rights, to stop the tragedies of anything happening again, like happened in world war ii. now we're in a situation where it protects the human rights of illegal immigrants and is weaponized against sas heroes. this law surely needs to be kicked into touch . be kicked into touch. >> i agree it does need it needs to be reformed. i don't think we need to come out, but it
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absolutely needs to be reformed because those examples that you've just mentioned, martin, are not what it was intended to enable and protect when it was put in place. and that's changed considerably to where we are now. and again, a lot of that is down to the judiciary and the interpretation of the law, and that includes our judiciary as well. so we need to address and reform that institution, whether or not that's going to happen any time soon. i doubt that very much because i think keir starmer is probably going to be in charge for quite a while. >> david, we've spoken about this same situation before. the echr reigned supreme in countries like italy, where they just tow boats back to libya in germany, where they're now sending illegal immigrants, criminals , convicted terrorists criminals, convicted terrorists from afghanistan back to the taliban. poland is closing its borders there in the echr and the european union. but they have politicians who say, no, we're not going to listen to strasbourg. we're going to have our own rules to reign sovereign. is it the case, david, that we could do that here? but we just don't have
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politicians with the guts to do so? >> absolutely. i mean, i've said it before. i mean, you know, these these are laws. we can break them if we want. other countries are breaking or ignonng countries are breaking or ignoring them. and that's obviously, as a lawyer, you shouldn't recommend people doing that. but other countries are doing it in europe. it's as i said at the start, it's a failure of our politicians, a failure of our politicians, a failure of our judiciary as to where we are today. and this man's case, the chap we're talking about today is an exact a very good example of all the failures of all the various parts of the state of the uk that have put us in this situation to enable this man to game the system and others will follow him . follow him. >> hey, david. hey, it's always a delight to have your expertise. thank you very much for joining us on the show. and you always look so dapper. thank you always look so dapper. thank you very much for joining us today on gb news. thank you. now moving on. shocking news coming out of m15 earlier today. and they foiled more than 20 deadly iranian terror plots on the uk on british soil in the past two years alone. and they're now warning that the country is under an increased islamist
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terror threat due to tensions in the middle east. dramatic development. and joining us now with the latest is our homeland security editor, mark white. mark, a huge announcement. we've been speaking about this for many, many months now. the simmering tensions in the middle east could that filter down onto british streets. and it seems today, mark, this announcement from m15 says that could happen. >> yeah. this is a highly alarming assessment from the director general of m15, ken mccallum, talking in particular about the resurgence of al—qaeda and isis. i mean, remember, isis, these images from a decade ago, almost now when isis came to prominence , declared its to prominence, declared its so—called islamic state, its caliphate in syria and iraq and launched many , many terrorist launched many, many terrorist attacks right around the world in its name. and, of course , was in its name. and, of course, was then dismantled, largely by
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coalition forces. and airstrikes that have been taking place and are still taking place to this day, although we're told will be winding down soon, including uk forces that regularly carry out attacks over syria and iraq aimed at degrading isis. well, isis is now on the rise. it's more diffuse in different countries, but just as determined to launch attacks. one particular attack, launched in march of this year in moscow , in march of this year in moscow, targeting a concert hall and leading to a massive loss of life. 145 people killed and some 500 injured and ken mccallum really warning that this terror group, and indeed al—qaeda, could well try to inspire or launch other attacks, in particular linked to the ongoing conflict in the middle east. this is what he said earlier
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today. >> today we are powerfully arrived alive to the risk that events in the middle east directly trigger terrorist action in the uk. directly trigger terrorist action in the uk . as we saw with action in the uk. as we saw with last october's knife attack in hartlepool, the ripples from conflict in that region will not necessarily arrive at our shores in a straightforward fashion. they'll be filtered through the lens of online media and mixed with existing views and grievances in unpredictable ways . grievances in unpredictable ways. >> now, ken mccallum, martin said that the vast majority of the terrorist threat cases that his officers are investigating, 75% are islamist inspired terror threats, 25% could be categorised as far right. but it's not just the terror threat . it's not just the terror threat. it is a very complex picture that mi5 it is a very complex picture that m15 and indeed counter—terrorism police are
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deaung counter—terrorism police are dealing with now state actors, a particular risk as well . iran, particular risk as well. iran, he revealed, had been responsible for some 20 plots over the past two years that m15 and the police were responsible for thwarting, and some real concern that iran, as it comes under increasing pressure from israel with more targeted strikes. we believe in the coming hours or days that it could direct its proxies to carry out attacks in the west. this is what he said about the threat from iran since january 2022, with police partners, we have responded to 20 iran backed plots presenting potentially lethal threats to british citizens and uk residents as events unfold in the middle east, we will give our fullest attention to the risk of an increase in, or a broadening of
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iranian state aggression here in the uk . so clearly, martin, the uk. so clearly, martin, a very worrying picture and other state actors as well, of course, in the form of russia and china still posing a significant threat , still posing a significant threat, particularly russia intent on causing more in the way of chaos in the uk and other european countries. >> concern report mark white. and as you've been saying for a long, long time, iran or the agents of chaos in palestine and lebanon , could the same be lebanon, could the same be happening on british soil? mark white thank you very much for joining us today on the show. pleasure. thank you. now, security guards have been introduced on dublin's buses to tackle anti—social behaviour for the first time in the city's history. i wonder what's changed. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel
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welcome back 426 i'm martin daubney on gb news now. let's return now to the breaking news that tom tugendhat has been eliminated from the tory leadership race. and let's get more on that by going back to gb news political editor chris hoy in westminster hall. chris, what's the latest what you got for me ? for me? >> hi, martin. yeah, we've got reaction here now from the genenc reaction here now from the generic campaign source. they're telling you gb news this hour. robert is now in prime position to make the final two mps want seriousness and competence. that is why he's won support from across the party so far from danny kruger on the right to vicki atkins on the left. so be in no doubt. tonight is a battle for the soul of the right of the tory party. i can also confirm that rishi sunak did not vote in that rishi sunak did not vote in that campaign. he did not vote in the voting today, which means that richard fuller, the party chairman, has voted in it and that's now happened. that's been. and so i think it's
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interesting what happens next. earlier i spoke to james cartlidge, who's a spokesman for the kemi badenoch campaign . the kemi badenoch campaign. james cartlidge, your candidate, has momentum i totally agree. >> i think actually it's a very good result because she's only one behind robert jenrick. >> obviously tom did a great campaign, but obviously there are 20 votes there now have to be reallocated. and so my key message is this i think kim has got a really good chance of getting to the final two. and if she does, my experience is she is overwhelmingly the members favourite and therefore a really good chance of winning. >> why is robert jenrick slipping back? he's down from 33 to 31 supporters. you're up , to 31 supporters. you're up, your team is up from 28 to 30. >> i think that's really important. it's about momentum and progress at this stage, isn't it? i just think that, you know, for all the talk and chatter as i said when i came out to back kemi, she is the candidate who's got what we call cut through. she's just got that ability to really, you know , cut ability to really, you know, cut through all the noise and communicate those key conservative principles. and certainly for my membership, what they love about her is the
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way she's willing to speak her mind, speak her. and yes, sometimes she'll say things that get misinterpreted , wrongly get misinterpreted, wrongly interpreted or whatever. but fundamentally, she's passionate , fundamentally, she's passionate, she's got energy, and i think she's got energy, and i think she's the future of the party. >> that's james cartlidge, a former treasury minister, now a spokesman for the kemi badenoch campaign . and those numbers are campaign. and those numbers are so tight. 39 forjames campaign. and those numbers are so tight. 39 for james cleverly, 31 for robert jenrick to down kemi badenoch up to at 30. and those key numbers are 20 supporters there for tom tugendhat. there's several in there who will simply will not vote for either robert jenrick or kevin badenoch. so it pushes james cleverly over the 40 mark, which means he will be in the final two. so i think we can bank james cleverly in the final two. martin but right now it's a battle royale between robert jenrick and kemi badenoch for the right to take on. i think james cleverly in the battle to be tory leader, a battle on the right to take on james cleverly. >> chris hope excellent analysis
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as ever. we're back to you soon for more in the show. thank you . for more in the show. thank you. now moving on. the rise of anti—social behaviour is causing havocin anti—social behaviour is causing havoc in dublin. it's particularly bad on buses where incidents of anti—social behaviour have more than doubled since 2019. and now the battle to improve safety will see bodyguards placed on bus routes around the irish capital. well, join us now for feedback on this. is the president of the irish freedom party and a friend of the show, herman kelly. herman, welcome to the show . herman, welcome to the show. always an absolute delight. we've been covering for many, many months here on gb news. the seeming disintegration of the social fabric in dublin. now there are security guards on buses. what on earth's going on? >> well, there was in july of this year, there was a female bus driver who was shot in the face with an air gun in july. so ireland has moved very quickly from a high trust, low friction
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society to one where criminality has now, i wouldn't say gone through the roof, but it's increased very, very quickly. last year, in 2023, the rate of murder almost doubled. now this yean murder almost doubled. now this year, to according stats from the central statistics office , the central statistics office, extortion, robbery and hijacking has gone up in the first quarter of this year by 18%. recorded crimes involving weapons and explosives have gone up by 10%. this is like, what's this becoming like, sweden or something? i got there in 2021. 12 women were murdered . five of 12 women were murdered. five of those were were murdered by non—irish nationals. and i think ireland is now replicating the trends which we saw throughout europe. if you allow in large numbers of unvetted males and you don't know who they are, where they're from, do they have a criminal record ? well, odds a criminal record? well, odds show that it's likely that the crime rate will increase . there
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crime rate will increase. there have been numerous incidents in over the last number of years of increased thuggery and people being beat up on buses and in pubuc being beat up on buses and in public transport, and i think with this female driver being shot , look, action just had to shot, look, action just had to be taken . be taken. >> i've got a picture on screen now, herman kelly from a video which we couldn't show because there's an active police investigation, but there is a bunch of what appear to be non—indigenous people, shall we say , having a right old tear up say, having a right old tear up on a bus. herman , the evidence on a bus. herman, the evidence of security guards on bus drivers, not really about safety on buses. it's about a visible sign that dublin seems to be falling apart. and time and time again, people like yourselves, people like malachy steenson, who we've got coming in to the show tomorrow, keep saying to the authorities, will you take nofice the authorities, will you take notice of us? is there any evidence that the authorities, the police are getting the message, or are they simply burying their heads in the sand
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about the impact of immigration on places like dublin ? on places like dublin? >> no, no. even in the latest, as they talk about the latest crime statistics, which have increased dramatically, all drew harris, the head of the gardai, wants to talk about is the increase in arson carried out on these deep centres, like the increase in murder, robbery , increase in murder, robbery, theft and the like. the use of guns and explosives in ireland . guns and explosives in ireland. yeah. do you know what they refuse to admit because of political reasons and the gardai, andrew harris in particular, is very highly politicised under the influence of the justice minister, helen mcentee, they refuse to acknowledge that taking in large numbers of unvetted males from god knows where leads to an increase in crime. but it's ordinary people who have to suffer the consequences. and yes , suffer the consequences. and yes, the politicians, fianna fail, fine gael are starting to make noises now because they can see
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the vast majority of the people, 75%, according to the polls, are opposed to mass immigration, but they're just making noises. but they're just making noises. but they're doing very little about it. in practical terms . it. in practical terms. >> yeah. herman kelly, thank you for joining us. it's a shame. forjoining us. it's a shame. it's about such sad news. a beautiful city, dublin seems to beautiful city, dublin seems to be going into something of a decline. herman kelly, thank you very much for joining decline. herman kelly, thank you very much forjoining us on the very much for joining us on the show. it's always a pleasure to have your company. thank you. there's lots more still to come between now and 5:00, including a 14 year old girl has been accused of trying to stab to death two teachers and a pupil. so how do you stop knives in schools? is it time for us style metal detectors? but first, here's your latest news headunes here's your latest news headlines with lewis mckenzie . headlines with lewis mckenzie. >> thank you very much, martin. it's 4:33 o'clock. i'm lewis mckenzie here in the gb newsroom. james cleverly has overtaken robert jenrick to the top spot in the latest round of voting to be the next leader of
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the conservative party. cleverly leads the pack with 39 votes, robert jenrick second with 31 and kemi badenoch third on 30. tom tugendhat has now been eliminated from the race with only 20 votes. the final two will be decided after the next round of voting tomorrow afternoon . and the director afternoon. and the director general of m15 has warned that isis and al—qaeda are on the rise again, with an increased terror risk linked to the conflict in the middle east. in a stark warning at the counter—terrorism operations centre , ken mccallum revealed centre, ken mccallum revealed that iran has been linked to at least 20 deadly plots in the uk over the past two years. he says both groups are attempting to export terror. highlighting the recent deadly attacks in moscow as a brutal demonstration of what isis is capable of. as the conflict between israel and iran intensifies. m15 is on high alert for potential domestic
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repercussions . and the prime repercussions. and the prime minister is set for crucial talks in berlin as he joins leaders from the us, france and germany this saturday. the meeting will focus on the ongoing war in ukraine and escalating tensions in the middle east. it comes as tensions are rising in lebanon , tensions are rising in lebanon, prompting urgent diplomatic efforts among the so—called quad nations. efforts among the so—called quad nafions.the efforts among the so—called quad nations. the prime minister's spokesman says the meeting highlights the uk's commitment to tackling international issues alongside its allies . and alongside its allies. and finally, as hurricane milton makes its way across florida towards florida, governor ron desantis says if you stay, you will die. satellite images show the storm churning through the gulf of mexico with winds reaching 160 miles an hour. forecasters are warning of an 8 to 12 foot storm surge. the highest ever in the region, with
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widespread flooding. it comes just two weeks after hurricane helene claimed over 200 lives in the southeastern parts of the united states . well, those are united states. well, those are your latest gb news headlines. i am lewis mckenzie. more from me in half an hour's time for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com. >> forward slash alerts
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>> welcome back. >> welcome back. >> your time is 4.39. i'm martin daubney on gb news. a 14 year old girl accused of trying to murder two teachers and a pupil has admitted that she'd been carrying a knife to school almost daily since primary school. so what? on earth needs to change to stamp this out? and
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is it time for us style metal detectors at our british schools? well, joining me now to talk about this is a headteacher at the saint thomas the apostle school , sir at the saint thomas the apostle school, sir cfi. welcome, sir. always a pleasure to have your company. this is a very, very concerning case. and we all know that there are many, many more cases of knives being taken into school. in fact, a report out just in may surge is saying we are facing a national emergency of knives in school. there are there were 174 knife attacks in schools last year in the uk for every week. what on earth is going on surge and how do we stop this? >> well, how do you stop it? well, i think we all need to agree that bearing in mind how often this comes up in the media, your program and other programs , whatever is going on programs, whatever is going on at the moment simply isn't working. i think we need to go right back to basics in terms of parenting ,
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right back to basics in terms of parenting, in terms of the youth justice system system. and the bottom line is we must now adopt as a society a no tolerance view to children , anyone but children to children, anyone but children in particular, carrying knives. i think there must be no tolerance in schools, certainly in my schools there are simple red lines. you bring a knife into school, you're never coming back into that school. you know, you bring drugs in the same thing. you hit one of the teachers, the same thing. i'm afraid. and it's quite sad. and i don't mean to trivialise it, but, you know, the trendy wendy approach to bringing up children has clearly not worked. so we need to be doing something different, something with a bit of common sense that makes sure children know when they're doing right and when they're doing wrong. and i would plead to all parents, no more no go areas in your household. you know, if you suspect something going on, look under their beds, check what they're looking at on the phones and take action. because i think this laissez faire attitude to
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bringing up children, well, it's not working for us. >> serge, you are channelling absolute common sense there. i think many people listening in will agree with you. but the thing is, in this particular instance, the father was aware that the girl had been excluded from school. this is all in the court report and the father would routinely search the girl's bag for knives every day. but in this particular day she had a knife in her pocket. she was determined for whatever reasons, we don't know, to get a knife into school . even when the knife into school. even when the parents were aware and attempted to be responsible and attempted to be responsible and attempted to intervene, it didn't work. that brings me on to my next question. my sister lives in texas. it's unpleasant, but they have metal detectors on schools there to try and stop kids taking weapons into school . taking weapons into school. could something like that work in britain? even like one of those you just swipe over somebody, like, for example, you see at airports or is that too far? yeah. >> no, i'm not sure it's too far, but what would have to happen? you'd have to be in all schools as a headteacher, i can tell you now, if you set up a
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knife arch in your school, parents will automatically think you've got a knife problem in that school. as a parent yourself, you do not want to send your child to that school, so that's counterproductive. so it would have to be all schools. secondly, you've mentioned the word the girl was determined to bnng word the girl was determined to bring the knife in. you know , bring the knife in. you know, she'll throw it over the fence, hide in the hedge for later on. children aren't completely stupid once they're determined to do something, they will do it. however, what we must determine to do as a society is when these children get caught, we must take action. no more trendy windiness about. there's an excuse. why you did it, you were scared, etc. no tolerance, but as you keep mentioning on your programme and i watch it regularly, you know this softly, softly approach to crime, especially when it comes to children, has to stop. we must make sure that children know what's going to happen if they want to get up to such nonsense, andifs want to get up to such nonsense, and it's no good waiting till they're 18 and then bang about, we are setting them up for a life in prison. we must act as
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early as possible. but as i said at the very beginning, it's our youth justice system that's simply not working. if that parent did everything they possibly could. i mean, it's hard to know if the dad knew that the girl was carrying a knife , if she's determined knife, if she's determined enough and ignores her parents. i'm not sure whether this is an isolated case, but you mentioned some of the numbers. they're quite appalling, but it's very difficult . but we need to start difficult. but we need to start from scratch and let's get things right from scratch. no more pussyfooting around the fact that some of our kids are going down the wrong road. >> but some critics will say to you, yeah, but you're going to you're going to put these poor kids into into schools where they're excluded. they'll suffer for the rest of their lives. you're them to a life of going down the wrong track. and that's because they need to be hugged. they need to be understood. we need to get inside their head a bit more. i can see you wincing, but that, you know, that's what will be said . will be said. >> yeah, i know, and i've dealt with these people for 40 odd years and they don't really care about the kids, you know, they
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pretend to. again, i call them the trendy wendy's. i could think of a couple of other terms that you wouldn't want me to repeat on your program. you know, i know these people. they do not care about the children. you know, if they really cared about the children, they'd make sure that these children knew that there were consequences to the actions that they are carrying out . and we must all carrying out. and we must all get together. we must stop abdicating our responsibility, bringing up children and these people again, i don't know how to describe them properly. you know, they're the last people that need to have anything to do with our children, because all they do is provide excuses for those children to do things again , which means the children again, which means the children grow up not really thinking that whatever they've done well, it's not their fault. i've been told i've got a label of some kind. my i've got a label of some kind. my dad's in prison, my mum's an alcoholic, whatever it is, and they are all victims , aren't they are all victims, aren't they? never mind the person that they? never mind the person that they might indeed stab. so i've had 45 years of it. you sound like you've had a good deal of it as well. but if we're really serious, if we're really serious about bringing up our children
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properly, properly. let's get back to basics and make sure these children know the difference between right and wrong and when they do wrong. let's make sure they understand there are consequences to their actions rather than treat them like victims. >> so we've got to leave it there. the headmaster mainline in common sense. thank you very much. always a pleasure. now, apparently joe biden surrendered the chagos islands because he was he pushed britain into it. and a man who asked the question yesterday just walked in. mark joins me next on
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welcome back. almost 10 to 5. i'm martin daubney on gb news now. joe biden apparently pushed the uk into giving up the chagos islands to mauritius over concerns that the us would lose control of an important air base. well , control of an important air base. well, yesterday, foreign secretary david lammy was heckled and laughed at in the
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commons for the government's surrender after mauritius elections, the government will move towards treaty signature and it is then our intention to pursue ratification in 2025 by and then others rowed in behind. and time and agai in 2025 by pursue ratification in 2025 by submitting the treaty and the submitting the treaty and the bill to this house for scrutiny. bill to this house for scrutiny. >> this is a historic moment, a >> this is a historic moment, a victory for diplomacy. we saved victory for diplomacy. we saved the base. we secured britain's the base. we secured britain's national interests for the long national interests for the long term. i commend this statement term. i commend this statement today. today. >> but one crucial question that >> but one crucial question that wasn't asked was a basic one. wasn't asked was a basic one. how much will this cost? great how much will this cost? great britain? and that's exactly what britain? and that's exactly what the conservative mp for rayleigh the conservative mp for rayleigh and wickford, mark francois, and wickford, mark francois, asked the foreign secretary asked the foreign secretary yesterday. and mark joins me now yesterday. and mark joins me now live in the studio. mark, live in the studio. mark, welcome to the show. hello. it's welcome to the show. hello. it's a basic question. you're giving a basic question. you're giving this away at the moment. it's this away at the moment. it's free in the future. it won't be. free in the future. it won't be. what's it cost? you asked that what's it cost? you asked that question . did you get an answer? question . did you get an answer? question. did you get an answer? question. did you get an answer? >> no. >> no. >> and i sort of kicked it off. >> no. >> no. >> and i sort of kicked it off. and then others rowed in behind. and then others rowed in behind.
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and then others rowed in behind. and time and again and then others rowed in behind. and time and again he refused to answer the question. where mps? we're there to safeguard taxpayers money. so there are two possibilities. one is he actually doesn't know . and with actually doesn't know. and with it being david lammy, that's not inconceivable. you know, this is the man who famously thought that, you know, henry the eighth was succeeded as king of england by henry the seventh. so option one is he doesn't know an option two is he does know and he's so embarrassed that he won't tell parliament. and i'm not absolutely sure which is worse. and oh, by the way, i think this you know, biden leant on us is all foreign office spin. yeah . all foreign office spin. yeah. but if it were to be true and i'm not sure that it is, well, we should have had a love actually moment and said, no, thank you, sir, but on a serious point, there must have been some sort of financial impact assessment or at least a packet maths about what this will cost. well, he said yesterday we have
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concluded a deal, but the government didn't publish the text of a treaty. it's an international treaty, so it would have to be ratified by an act of parliament that mps could debate and ultimately vote on. so if they've concluded the deal so if they've concluded the deal, they must have sorted out the money, right? otherwise the deal isn't "contests. i
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leadership contests. i remember in 2001 when i had just come into the house of commons, ids famously kept michael portillo out of the final by one vote. ken clarke had more votes than ian going in, but ian won in the end , so generic is currently in end, so generic is currently in the last two. if he gets into the last two. if he gets into the final two tomorrow, which i hope and believe he will, he has every chance of winning in the end. >> should the party go back to the centre, or does it need to go to the right? >> i've got 20s. i think robert is the man with a plan. i think he's the best guy to defeat keir starmer . so i hope and believe starmer. so i hope and believe that in the end it will be robert jenrick. that's my view. >> mark francois, always an absolute pleasure to have you in the studio. thank you very, very much. now still to come, more reaction to that announcement. the final three tory leadership candidates as tom tugendhat is eliminated, eliminated from the race, even cleverly on 39 votes. robert jenrick putting on 18. robert jenrick putting on 18.
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robert jenrick putting on 18. robert jenrick on 31, going down from 33, kemi badenoch on 30, up from 33, kemi badenoch on 30, up from 28. tom tugendhat eliminated on 20 votes. those 20 votes. all to play for . where votes. all to play for. where will they go? what does that mean for the battle for the future soul of the conservative party? as mark francois said, should the party go back to the centre? he reckons not. it should go towards the right, maybe to try and take out a certain mr nigel farage. stick with us now. here's your weather with us now. here's your weather with alex bercow. >> heavy showers. first thing will be followed by a warm, cosy day . boxt will be followed by a warm, cosy day. boxt boilers will be followed by a warm, cosy day . boxt boilers sponsors of day. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> good evening. here's your latest gb news. weather update coming to you from the met office . looking ahead. and by office. looking ahead. and by thursday things are looking largely dry but quite a bit colder than of late . for the colder than of late. for the time being though, still plenty of wet weather around . low of wet weather around. low pressure dominating the story across the uk. it's this low
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pressure that has brought all the heavy, thundery showers many of us have seen through today, and there will be some further showers as we go through the next few hours across england and wales, but many of them clearing away towards the east overnight. some persistent rain continuing though across parts of northern england and eastern scotland. so staying pretty soggy here with quite a bit of cloud around. temperatures won't drop a huge amount, especially in the towns and cities. many places holding up in double figures. there will be generally fewer showers around tomorrow, but there will be some in fact, even from the start, across far southern parts of england, a few showers quite likely, perhaps a little bit drier across central southern parts of wales and the midlands for a time, but further north northern england. plenty of wet weather around some outbreaks of rain, which could be quite heavy and more persistent rain affecting eastern parts of scotland. a very soggy start to the day here as we go through the day. the rain across parts of scotland and northern england will continue for a time, but it should start to break up as we
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go through into the afternoon and early evening. elsewhere, a scattering of showers around . scattering of showers around. not as many as we've seen through today, and they're not looking quite as intense. less likely to have the odd rumble of thunder, but still some heavy ones possible. and temperatures in the north starting to drop down as we get a northerly wind making its way across the country. that northerly wind then will push its way southwards across pretty much the whole of the country as we go through thursday. and so that means it is going to be a chillier day, but much fewer showers around . in fact, it's showers around. in fact, it's looking largely dry. yes, some showers around coastal parts, but many places having a dry day on thursday and sticking with that drier theme until the weekend. by by. >> ooh, a chilly start will give way to a lovely warm
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to you. it's 5:00 pm and welcome to the martin daubney show here on gb news. of course, we're broadcasting live from the heart of westminster and all across the uk. on today's show, four has now become three as shadow security minister tom tugendhat is dramatically eliminated from the conservative party leadership race. and we'll get reaction to this news from our political editor, chris hope , political editor, chris hope, live there in westminster hall . live there in westminster hall. and the european court of human rights is under fire today on two counts, after it allowed an illegal albanian immigrant to remain in britain to be with his lithuanian wife, who he got pregnant . so article lithuanian wife, who he got pregnant. so article eight protected his human right to a family life. welcome to modern britain. and secondly , three sas britain. and secondly, three sas veterans have blasted the echr , veterans have blasted the echr, saying it is hounding our betrayed military heroes over allegations of historic wrongdoings. i'll be joined by a former sas hero to ask him. the echr protects illegal immigrants and prosecutes national heroes. is it time to bite the bullet
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and scrap the echr? and in a short while on today's show, i'll be joined by michael levi , i'll be joined by michael levi, an israeli whose brother was kidnapped and his sister in law executed by hamas terrorists on october the 7th last year. in his tireless quest to free his enslaved brother , michael has enslaved brother, michael has met with over 50 presidents and global ministers and has even prayed with the pope and a top university professor has claimed it takes students an astonishing three weeks to read a single book because they simply do not have the attention span to discuss the terminal decline of reading, and perhaps even human intelligence. i'll be joined by an author who sold a few books himself. in fact, 325 million of the things. that's the legendary sir jeffrey archer. that's all coming up in your next hour.
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once the show . so four became once the show. so four became three james cleverly is the romp away leader in the tory leadership race. but of course, next it will go to the members should the party go back towards the centre. mr cleverly is that person, or should the party to have any chance of heading off nigel farage reform party go more towards the right, and who might that be? robert jenrick lost two votes, slipping behind losing momentum, kemi badenoch gaining two votes. is kemi the future of the conservative party? what would you like to see? or does none of this matter? is the tory party a spent force? they need to stand aside for nigel farage's reform party. let me know your thoughts on this crucial question. gbnews.com forward slash your save. but now it's your headlines. and here's lewis mckenzie . mckenzie. >> thank you very much martin. good afternoon. it's just after
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5:00 i'm lewis mckenzie in the gb newsroom james cleverly has overtaken robert jenrick to the top spot in the last round of voting to be the next leader of the conservative party. cleverly leads the pack with 39 votes. robert jenrick second with 31 and kemi badenoch third on 30. tom tugendhat has now been eliminated from the race, with only 20 votes. the final two will be decided at the next round of voting tomorrow afternoon . now the director afternoon. now the director general of m15 has warned that isis and al—qaeda are on the rise again, with an increased terror risk linked to the conflict in the middle east. in a stark warning at the counter—terrorism operations centre, ken mcmullen revealed that iran has been linked to at least 20 deadly plots in the uk over the last two years. he says both groups are attempting to export terror. highlighting the recent deadly attack in moscow
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as a brutal demonstration of what isis is capable of as the conflict between israel and iran intensifies. m15 is on high alert for potential domestic repercussions . and keir starmer repercussions. and keir starmer is set for crucial talks in berlin, joining leaders from the us , france and germany this us, france and germany this saturday. the meeting will focus on the ongoing war in ukraine and the escalating situation in the middle east. it comes as tensions rise in lebanon , tensions rise in lebanon, prompting urgent diplomatic efforts among the so—called quad nations. efforts among the so—called quad nafions.the efforts among the so—called quad nations. the prime minister's spokesperson has said that the meeting highlights the uk's commitment to tackling international issues alongside its allies . water companies in its allies. water companies in england and wales have been ordered to return more than £157 million to their customers for failing to meet crucial targets
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on pollution and interruption of supplies. ofwat has demanded the money comes off the bills for households and businesses from next year. it follows a previous to order repay £114 million last year. to order repay £114 million last year . the uk to order repay £114 million last year. the uk population has seen its largest annual increase in size since 1971. the office for national statistics estimates the total population grew by 1% in just a year, reaching 68.3 million by mid 2023. covering england, scotland, wales and northern ireland, the ons says migration was the main factor behind the latest rise, as deaths exceeded births by around 16,300. in the same period . and 16,300. in the same period. and finally, as hurricane milton makes its way towards florida, governor ron desantis says if you stay, you will die. satellite images show the storm
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churning through the gulf of mexico, with winds reaching 180 miles an hour. forecasters are warning of an 8 to 12 foot storm surge. the highest ever for the region, with widespread flooding. it comes just two weeks after hurricane helene claimed over 200 lives in the southeastern part of the us . southeastern part of the us. well, those are your latest gb news headlines. i'm lewis mckenzie. more from me in half an hour. now it's back to martin for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> thank you lewis. now earlier on this afternoon, tom tugendhat was eliminated from the conservative leadership race, meaning the quartette of candidates has now become a
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trio. let's remind ourselves of the moments that the result was announced and declare the result of the third ballot in the leadership contest. >> 120 votes were cast, and the votes for each candidate were as follows . kemi badenoch, 30. follows. kemi badenoch, 30. james cleverly 39. robert jenrick, 31. and tom tugendhat , jenrick, 31. and tom tugendhat, 20. so as a result of that ballot, tom tugendhat is eliminated from the contest. >> well, let's get more now on that dramatic news with gb news political editor chris hope, who joins us live from there in the palace of westminster. chris, a dramatic surge forward for james cleverly putting on an astonishing 18 votes. he's the man who surged into first place robert jenrick the wheels are wobbling somewhat on his campaign. kemi badenoch putting two on. what's the latest ?
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two on. what's the latest? >> hi, martin. yeah, welcome back here to the historic westminster hall, which has seen its own fair share of drama over the centuries. and a bit of that has been added tonight by the third round of voting in the tory leadership contest. that's right. james cleverly surged ahead with 18 more supporters. that means he looks like he's hoovered up all of the 16 that went to mel stride in the previous round, and taken a couple more from other others. i'm not even sure that the team around james cleverly know where they've come from , but the two they've come from, but the two are tied now, nearly tied or certainly fighting it out for second place or robert jenrick on 31. kemi badenoch on 30. i should tell you that robert jenrick team seem very relaxed. they think they think some votes will come back from kemi badenoch to him ahead of the big final. the final two voting tomorrow , and he's hosting tomorrow, and he's hosting a dnnks tomorrow, and he's hosting a drinks party some way away, somewhere away from westminster
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tonight, as he wants to project a calming influence. but he is slipping back. he's lost the vote. the support of two mps and kemi badenoch, his his rival for the right, has gained two. so tonight in westminster, it's all about the battle for the right wing of the tory party . can mps wing of the tory party. can mps unite around one of these two candidates to take on james cleverly from the more centrist part of the party in the final two? kemi badenoch has said it's a tight race. i'll keep fighting for every vote. it's also clear from every independent poll and survey that the support for me is surging . and james cleverly, is surging. and james cleverly, for his part, says that the job is not finished. i'm excited to keep spreading our positive conservative message a robert jenrick campaign source tells us tonight that robert , they think, tonight that robert, they think, is in prime position to make the final two mps want seriousness and competence and that's why he's won the support they say, from across the party from danny kruger on the right to vicky
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atkins on the left. so right now, a real battle as this battle to present members with two candidates comes to a head . two candidates comes to a head. >> and what happens next, chris? there's horse trading, there's all these drinks party, there's the wining , there's the dining, the wining, there's the dining, there's the schmoozing. perhaps there's the schmoozing. perhaps there's the schmoozing. perhaps there's the arm bending as well to try and get people rallying behind their candidate. and a repeat performance tomorrow. same time, same place. right, chris? so then we'll be announcing the final two. and at that point, chris, maybe the bigger question is this what's the fork in the road the conservative party should go down. will it be to the more back to the centre with someone like mr cleverly, or will it be going to the right with mr jenrick or miss badenoch , jenrick or miss badenoch, because nigel farage has nicked 4 million votes off the party, as well as the two finalists tomorrow the party itself, chris, has got a big, big question to ask itself . question to ask itself. >> well, that's right , question to ask itself. >> well, that's right, martin. i mean, what do you do with those
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4.2 million people who voted reform at the last election just in july? now by most accounts, the majority of those will be tory voters who are just cheesed off with this tory government and wanted to get them out of office. so how do you appeal to them? do you present yourself as being more as being authentically tory, or do you chase those votes and go off to the right? robert jenrick is offering withdrawal from the echr. the european convention on human rights. that's the bait he's putting down for those tory voters. kemi badenoch is more for many more authentically conservative. although she's not offering echr withdrawal just yet. but she's reviewing most things. she's offering a complete rewiring of the tory party against james cleverly to the left of both those two, his who is saying, i'm just going to be proud about being a conservative and he's saying, let's stop being embarrassed about about the party we've been supporting. you know, this is his tribe, he told members last week at the party conference. so a real choice going forward and whether it's cleverly against
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badenoch or cleverly against against jenrick, there's a choice there for members. and of course , that's a debate you will course, that's a debate you will see played out on gb news because next thursday the 17th we are hosting an event for the final two. when tory members will be quizzing both those individuals before the vote takes place on the 2nd of november. >> chris. so excellent work today as ever, my friend there from the palace of westminster . from the palace of westminster. same time, same place tomorrow. and then three will become two. chris hope, thank you very much. always an absolute delight. thank you . now moving on. just thank you. now moving on. just over a year ago, in fact, on october the 7th, last year, yesterday daniel or levi attended a music festival. and that's where hamas terrorists executed his wife, the mother of his three year old son, in front of his very eyes. and they kidnapped to all gaza, where he remains to this day. now joining us now is his brother michael levi, who hasn't stopped his campaign to try and bring his
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missing brother home. welcome to the show. it's an absolute delight to have you on. it's an astonishing story started with the tragic events of october. the seventh last year. could you please would you mind telling us what happened to your brother on that day ? that day? >> yeah. my brother and his wife, arnav left their then two year old son almog at home and headed to a music festival that nova music festival. they got to the festival at 6:20 am, nine minutes before the all hell broke loose. there they immediately had to run into a bomb shelter and to hide from the missile attack. a few minutes after , a group of minutes after, a group of terrorists arrived to the same bomb shelter and started throwing grenades into it and sprayed it with bullets. they even fired an rpg into it, and i'm not sure if you know how
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those bomb shelters look like, but it's basically a bus stop made of made out of concrete and with not even a door . and it's with not even a door. and it's a tiny space and only enough squeezed inside. together with 27 other people and inside . and 27 other people and inside. and yeah, when the terrorist arrived, all that to witness his wife being executed in front of his eyes before he was taken into gaza and since then, this is what we do . is what we do. >> and, michael, the images of that day are truly horrific . the that day are truly horrific. the barbarity of the hamas terrorists knew no bounds. they they were seemingly proud of their work, of what they did , of their work, of what they did, of their work, of what they did, of the anarchy they spread into israel. that day. and this impacted you in a way you nobody ever could have seen coming.
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michael , how ever could have seen coming. michael, how did you first learn of your brother's plight on that day ? day? >> when the first missile attack started , i called my mother and started, i called my mother and she told me, olena went to the festival and when we tried calling him and we couldn't reach him, the last call was at 7:39 am. he spoke to my mother, who was completely terrified and just repeated the sentence , mom, just repeated the sentence, mom, you don't want to know what's going on here. and you know, at first they were missing , and first they were missing, and then four days after we discovered that that the army recognised zainab's body and that only after eight days we found out that o was kidnapped. >> and since then, you've been
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tirelessly campaigning, you've been around the world. you're one of the most travelled relatives of anyone who was taken hostage on that day. you've met, what, over 50 ministers and presidents, and you even prayed with the pope. an astonishing thing to have done. could you tell us about that moment and the hope that that moment and the hope that that gave you ? that gave you? >> unfortunately , i had to do >> unfortunately, i had to do it, and i'll keep doing it until when the rest of the hostages are back . and what can i say are back. and what can i say that moment was a very emotional moment. i'm not a religious person, but praying with such an important figure is an emotional moment . he just had a put important figure is an emotional moment. he just had a put his hand on his face in the picture and prayed. and it was an amazing moment, gave me a lot of strength . strength. >> and michael, you're obviously
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keeping your hope alive by staying as busy as you can. and spreading the word. and thank you. i'm truly i feel truly blessed to have your company on your on my show here today on gb news to and help spread the word. but can i ask you, may i ask you, has there been any indication of your brother's status? has there been any information whatsoever given to you, or are you living in an absolute vacuum of information when your brother or any family member is in the hands of those monsters, you leave those uncertainties every second of your life because even if you know something , nothing your life because even if you know something, nothing is guaranteed with those monsters . guaranteed with those monsters. >> but unfortunately, all we know is that paul was taken alive and that he wasn't severely injured. and the some that the idf assumes that he is
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still alive. and that's all we need. >> and may i ask you , michael, >> and may i ask you, michael, as well as travelling and as well as spreading the message and as well as speaking to world leaders and getting the hope there , what else gives you gives there, what else gives you gives you hope? do you do you feel that you have a connection with your brother? do you find yourself talking to him ? yourself talking to him? >> first of all, when i look at almog, the three year old son, i get all the hope and strength i need and. but yes, i often speak to all and think about him. and i know he can feel that we are here doing everything that we can in order to bring him back. and he knows us. he knows that we won't give up and we will turn the world upside down if needed to get him back . needed to get him back. >> and, michael, may i ask you
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about the ongoing conflict? there's been a lot of reports, a lot of demands from western leaders who perhaps don't understand the full situation, and particularly when we think back to the horror of october the 7th in in countries far away, like great britain, saying, lay down your arms , saying, lay down your arms, there must be peace talks. and yet in your position, michael, the thought that your brother could be in a subterranean tunnel inside gaza. what's your take on the ongoing conflict? do you want israel to press on? >> i keep telling those leaders, those foreign leaders and everyone who thinks like this, that i'm with them. i also want peace.i that i'm with them. i also want peace. i also want my girls to grow up in peace here. but for this to happen, the hostages must come back. when once they are back, this war will end and the suffering for both sides
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will end. and we can start talking about peace and i can start talking about what's next, and we can start talking about a two state solution. i would love to live here in peace. we all wanted to live here in peace. but you cannot live in peace when you have a terrorist organisation who declare that they want to basically commit genocide to your people, they will do it again if they can, and they will do it and they will do the same in london and in new york and in berlin. they already promised it. so i think that the international community needs to wake up. they it has they have to understand that we were just the first. if you don't put your foot down now and stop this whole and get all the hostages back, it will happen again and again and again. but
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next time, not in israel, anywhere in the world. >> and michael, when you think back to the barbarity of that day and the images were were circulating again yesterday , the circulating again yesterday, the very, very most evil thing that anybody could ever have done to other human beings was , was other human beings was, was acted out on october the 7th. it was acted out onto your brother's wife. and yet, michael, you still believe in your heart that these people are capable of compassion, are capable of compassion, are capable of compassion, are capable of admitting that they have to hand these hostages back. what gives you that to hope carry on? >> as i said, i have a two year old nephew who already lost his mother and needs to grow up with his father , and i will not rest his father, and i will not rest until his father is back with him . it's as until his father is back with him. it's as simple as until his father is back with him . it's as simple as that. and him. it's as simple as that. and a final question, if i may intrude, you know , if you could
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intrude, you know, if you could intrude, you know, if you could in any way get a message to your brother, what would you say ? no. brother, what would you say? no. i want him to know that we are strong. we will keep almog safe and happy. and we will do everything to bring him back . everything to bring him back. >> michael levi, it's been an absolute pleasure and a privilege to talk to you , and i privilege to talk to you, and i really, sincerely and truly wish you the very, very best of luck. and i wish you peace in your life and your endeavour and your amazing mission to try and get your brother returned home safely to you. thank you for joining us today on gb news here in london. and i know, i know, the audience watching will be very, very much on your side . very, very much on your side. god almighty. you just can't imagine, can you? what goes on? thank michael, thank you joining us on
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now in the united states of america, 51 florida counties are now under a state of emergency as what's been described as a monster hurricane sweeps closer to an already embattled coast. as you can see on your screen, there . and it comes just two there. and it comes just two weeks after hurricane helena claimed over 200 lives in the us.and claimed over 200 lives in the us. and joining us now from the scene is a resident in florida. aaron pilkington . we've got live aaron pilkington. we've got live pictures there of what you can see on your screen of the evacuation, because, of course, governor ron desantis in florida said it's time to leave florida now or die now. let's go to our guests. aaron pilkington, who joins us from florida . aaron, joins us from florida. aaron, welcome to the show. so it seems relatively calm behind you there, my friend. i want to know how close are you to the storm and what are you doing? are you getting out ? getting out? >> so actually, right now we've had to go to several gas stations because as you can see behind me, there is no gas at pretty much 90% of any of the
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stations we went to. and right here we just got plywood to go board up some of the houses. and with that we went to 4 or 5 different places to get plywood. so right now everybody's just in a frenzy trying to, you know, get all their ducks in a row and make sure that they're safe. but for the most part, i'm seeing that most people are evacuating right now and yeah, it's quite the event here. >> so as far as the plywood goes there, aaron, i'm assuming you're going to batten down the hatches to stop your windows getting caved in. what is that of your home? is that of your business. and then are you going to go inside and try and take shelter? are you going to batten down the hatches and try and evacuate? >> well, it's actually a airbnb. that's it's a property near the beach. well, we actually stay downtown, so we're going to be staying there for the hurricane . staying there for the hurricane. but we're just taking preparation here, moving everything inside the house and trying to board up windows up if you went through the neighbourhood, since we just got hit last week with the hurricane, pretty much all of everybody's appliances are out in their front yard. so it's going to be a devastating effect
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with getting hit by two back. >> so terms of the geography just for british viewers, like whereabouts are you on the florida peninsula? where is the hurricane due to land? how near to you are that? and how bad is it expected to be in your area ? it expected to be in your area? >> yeah, so we're in downtown saint petersburg . so the saint petersburg. so the hurricane from the last that i heard is coming towards either saint pete or sarasota. i'm not exactly sure where it's going to make landfall , but if it does make landfall, but if it does make landfall, but if it does make direct contact with saint petersburg, it's going to be extremely bad. a lot of the houses are probably going to be wiped off and but yeah, so we're right next to the ocean and i assume most of the houses that are on the beach are not going to. it's going to be a bad scene for them. but we are in the dead centre of where the hurricane is supposed to hit. >> so, aaron, you're you're you're going to, you know, you're going to, you know, you're going to persevere and try and protect that property there on the beach. but by your
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own admission, there you're right in the eye of where this is going to be making its landfall, and it's going to have a pretty big impact. so how far are you planning to get away from where you are now in saint petersburg? i mean, how far do you need to go to get away from this devastation ? this devastation? >> well, most of the people i know, they're planning on going to georgia, up to north carolina. me , i'm i'm staying carolina. me, i'm i'm staying right here. i'm i'm not going to leave. we're going to see how this goes. and. yeah, our apartment that we live in is hurricane resistant up to category five. so i think we're going to be fine. it's more of the power outages and not having access to go anywhere. that might be the issue later on. >> and aaron, we've heard here that ron desantis, the florida governor, is saying leave now or die . you're not doing that. die. you're not doing that. you're staying put. could i ask you category five hurricane protection? what does that mean? well, you've got some kind of nuclear bunker down there . nuclear bunker down there. >> no, it just means i am a degenerate. and i love adrenaline. we're going to see how this goes. and i'm here for
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you guys to report along the way . you guys to report along the way. >> well, aaron, that's an offer. i'll certainly take you up on if you if you manage to sort of keep it all together. but on a serious point, if you're right in the middle of the of the eye of the hurricane , adrenaline of the hurricane, adrenaline might not do you much good. i mean, i mean, this has got to have the power. what, to pick up cars and throw them about right. >> yeah. we're going to look we're going to see what happens. i'm. yeah. like i said, we're going to see how this hurricane hits the last couple ones that came through. it hasn't been too bad. but from what we're hearing, this one's going to be quite the storm. >> so we need to do is make sure you need to make sure you stay safe, make sure you get some footage and get it through to us here @gbnews. we'll be making sure that we make stay on your team. aaron, what kind of provisions have you got in? are you going to knuckle down? you've got you've got a few beers on the go or what? i mean, you seem like you're having a bit of a party. >> hey, it's florida, we're having a hurricane party. we got a couple cases at the house. you know, we're. yeah, we're having a good time over here. hopefully
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we survive. i think we will. and i'm going to be out there reporting just for you guys . reporting just for you guys. >> well, well aaron pilkington that's an astonishing revelation. you stay safe. and of course, to repeat, the governor of florida is saying leave or die. you're not doing that. you're staying put. aaron pilkington got to say, wow, brave man. thank you very much for joining us live from florida forjoining us live from florida here on gb news. what do you say to that? what an astonishing interview. wow. got a case of beer and just just ride it out. that's one way of doing it. certainly there's lots more still to come between now and 6:00, including three veterans have blasted the echr, saying it is hounding our betrayed military heroes over allegations of historic wrongdoing. i'll be joined soon by former sas hero for his views. but first, here's your headlines. lewis mckenzie . your headlines. lewis mckenzie. >> thank you very much, martin. good afternoon. it's half past five i'm lewis mckenzie here in
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the gb newsroom. james cleverly has overtaken robert jenrick to the top spot in the latest round of voting to be the next leader of voting to be the next leader of the conservative party. james cleverly leads the pack with 39 votes. robert jenrick in second with 31 and kemi badenoch in third with 30 votes. tom tugendhat has now been eliminated from the race, with only 20 votes. the final two will be decided in the next round of voting tomorrow afternoon . and the director afternoon. and the director general of m15 has warned that isis and al—qaeda are on the rise again, with an increased terror risk linked to the conflict in the middle east. in a stark warning at the counter—terrorism operations centre, ken mccallum revealed that iran has been linked with at least 20 deadly plots in the uk over the past two years. he says both groups are attempting to extort terror. highlighting the recently deadly attacks in
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moscow as a brutal demonstration of what isis is capable of. as the conflict between iran and israel intensifies. m15 is on high alert for potential domestic repercussions . keir domestic repercussions. keir starmer is set for crucial talks in berlin, joining leaders from the us, france and germany this saturday. the meeting will focus on the ongoing war in ukraine and the escalating situation in the middle east. it comes as tensions are rising in lebanon, prompting urgent diplomatic efforts among the so—called quad nations. efforts among the so—called quad nafions.the efforts among the so—called quad nations. the prime minister's spokesperson says the meeting highlights the uk's commitment to tackling international issues alongside its allies . and alongside its allies. and finally, as hurricane milton makes its way towards florida, governor ron desantis says if you stay, you will die. satellite images show the storm
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churning through the gulf of mexico with winds reaching potentially up to 180 miles. an houn potentially up to 180 miles. an hour. forecasters are warning of 8 to 12 foot storm surge. the highest ever for the region, and widespread flooding. it comes just two weeks after hurricane helene came claimed over 200 lives in the southeastern part of america . well, those are your of america. well, those are your latest gb news headlines. now it's latest gb news headlines. now wsfime latest gb news headlines. now it's time for your finance. >> for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> cheers! britannia wine club proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . financial report. >> and here's a quick snapshot of today's markets. the pound will buy you $1.3104 and
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,1.1937. the price of gold is £2,009.05 per ounce, and the ftse 100 is at 8204 points. >> cheers ! britannia wine club >> cheers! britannia wine club proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . financial report. >> thank you louis. now. joining me now is miriam cates , who is me now is miriam cates, who is standing in for michelle dewberry tonight on dewbs& co. it's going to be kate. sancho, what's on your what's on your menu miriam. >> good evening martin. well first of all, we'll be looking at the tory leadership race. >> quite a surprising result. >> quite a surprising result. >> tom tugendhat out. >> tom tugendhat out. >> i think people expected that. but cleverly now clearly in the frontrunner and perhaps the favourite kemi badenoch may not make it through the voting tomorrow night. so we're going tomorrow night. so we're going to have michelle donelan former cabinet minister who's supporting kemi badenoch on the show, discussing that we're also going to be discussing children and tech. so news today that
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kids just don't have the concentration spans that they used to. they can't read books anymore. but at the same time, the labour party have got a tiktok executive in number 10. it calls into question can labour properly regulate tech for children? so really exciting show coming up. lots of politics. bit of economics and some great great panellists . some great great panellists. >> miriam, as i've got you here, i've got to press you. who would you voted for today? >> i am completely neutral, martin. >> oh, come off it. who would you have voted for today? >> i'm honestly not. i'm honestly, i'm not neutral. but i'm not going to say. but i do think it is quite surprising. and i saw a really interesting article today saying that there are three groups out there. there's the public as a whole who prefer cleverly. there's the mps who we thought until today preferred robert jenrick, and there's the members who prefer kemi. so nobody's going to be happy. >> well, everyone's going to be happy when they tune in. >> see you 617. >> see you 617. >> that's miriam cates on the dewbs& co cover. fantastic. so thank you very much, miriam. good luck tonight. now stay with us as i'll be joined by an sas
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hero shortly for his views whether the echr betraying our military heroes
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welcome back. your time is 540. i'm martin daubney here on gb news now. three sas veterans have blasted the echr, saying it is hounding our betrayed military heroes over allegations of historic wrongdoings. now the echr seems to protect illegal immigrants and prosecutes national heroes. is it time to scrap this? dratted bill? well, joining me now to discuss this is a military veteran and former sas operative, matthew hellier. matthew, welcome to the show. it's always an absolute delight to have your company. a man i've got huge admiration for. here we got huge admiration for. here we go again. it just seems to always be the case, matthew, that the government, particularly the weapons in terms of the human rights
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legislation, is now being turned upon our own citizens, particularly those who risked their lives , gave their their lives, gave their everything, put themselves at great personal risk , made great personal risk, made decisions in split seconds in, in battles, battlefield conflicts. normal people can't understand that kind of pressure. you can. what's your take on this? on this legislation being weaponized against military heroes? >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> the echr was not adopted by this government or successive governments to hound our troops who are facing extreme danger in battle zones. >> you know , it is there to >> you know, it is there to protect, you know, human rights within society. >> but the three senior officers that have written to the government recently on this, on this matter, you know, asking to activate article 15, which gives special forces and british soldiers not, you know, anonymity from prosecution, but
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they're giving us the, the, the right tools, the right methods to work and be able to act on behalf of the government in dangerous war zones without the threat of being prosecuted. every time we come home. >> and the trouble with this kind of legislation, it's a bit like firearms officers who are being prosecuted for, again, split second decisions made in a very, very highly pressurised environment that the general public, and certainly human rights lawyers have no comprehension of that kind of arena. and yet this is being weaponized. how does that make you feel? i mean, i mean, you're the elite, the sas is the elite, and yet you're being treated worse . actually, matthew elliott worse. actually, matthew elliott than albanian illegal immigrants. today we've seen audh immigrants. today we've seen audit ben& jerry's and albanian illegal. who was thrown in jail for burglary, kicked out of the country ? rightly so. deported country? rightly so. deported came straight back to britain,
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got his missus pregnant, a lithuanian and the echr is protecting him. he's allowed to stay in britain so he can have a family life. but the same legislation being weaponized against people who serve their country. matthew haniyeh, how does that make you feel? >> what the public and what you know, what the general public does not understand and are not aware of the process and protocols that sas soldiers and british soldiers in warzones in war zones go through just to activate an operation against a terrorist. this is a is a very intricate, detailed protocol, which means that we have to we have to submit a business case for every time we go on an operation. that business case has to be cleared by legal representatives of the government. and then once it's once the process, it could take up to two weeks. sometimes longer, for us to actually get on the ground. when we got on the ground, we think we are acting within the within the laws and the regulations that the british government has put
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upon us. these young soldiers, even the sas guys, are carrying a lot of weight on their shoulders. you know, they face death and destruction each day just to uphold this government's policy. you know, the policies that we're sent to war and we're putting in conflicts to uphold this process. you know what? what is happening now with the echr is that it's disregarded all of the legal cases that we've put in to actually put our boots on the ground. and they're they're going to prosecute us when we come back of these operations. it'sjust when we come back of these operations. it's just ludicrous. absolutely ludicrous. we need to activate article 50 now. >> it's an astonishing revelation that you told me there. so when you go down boots on the ground, you've got a target . you've been it's been target. you've been it's been signed off by, by the very highest lawmakers in the land. it's been signed off by the mod. it's been signed off by the mod. it's been signed off by the prime minister. presumably it's been signed off by lawyers. you're going down boots on the ground . you think, matthew, ground. you think, matthew, you've got belts and braces . you've got belts and braces. legal cover. you do your job,
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you risk your life only to find out later on, sometimes years later on. actually, they changed their mind. they might throw the book at you. matthew haniyeh is an utter disgrace , complete an utter disgrace, complete disgrace. >> you know, we need to support our troops. we don't need to persecute them and chase them . persecute them and chase them. you know, we've had china that's just been done for falsifying claims against british soldiers. this has become a trend. it's not a very good trend. successive governments need to stop this or they've been, you know , activating this. we need know, activating this. we need to stop this now. this trend needs to stop. we need to support our troops. we need to give them, you know, the support and the courage that they they show on the battlefield. we you know, this this needs to end . know, this this needs to end. >> and matthew, in a word, could i ask you, do you think it's time to ditch the echr ? time to ditch the echr? >> i mean, it could be, but if we don't need to ditch it, then then of course we don't. that's why article 15 sits in the echr and that's why three senior officers of the special air service have written to the government asking for this to be
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activated . how easy is that? the activated. how easy is that? the general public do not want to see british soldiers victimise and then put in put in courts of law for stuff that they thought was right. and we have already fought a legal case against. they want to support our british soldiers by supporting british soldiers, by activating the article 15. this will get our recruitment and retention . recruitment and retention. >> well, well, well. the. okay. we're going to have to leave it there. i'm afraid . well, you there. i'm afraid. well, you know, the terrorists couldn't take down matthew haniyeh, but an internet connection did. but it's an absolute pleasure having you on the show. thank you very much. now, in a moment, i'll be joined by the legendary jeffrey archer after an oxford professor has claimed that university students are no longer able to read books in less than three weeks. you couldn't make it up. i'm martin daubney
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gb news. welcome back. it's 10 to 6 now. here's one for you. do we have a generation of complete and utter idiots? well, an oxford university professor has claimed that university students , even that university students, even literary students. english students. can you believe it? are no longer able to read books long books that they used to be able to read? three books, a week. now he claims they struggle to get through one book in three weeks. why? apparently it's because mobile phones have wrecked their poor brains , and wrecked their poor brains, and they've given them a much shorter attention span. well, let's discuss this now with a literary legend. that's the best selling author, sirjeffrey selling author, sir jeffrey archer. sir jeffrey, welcome to the show. an absolute pleasure to have your company on this afternoon. >> thank you very much indeed. good to be on the show. >> okay, so we have an audio link to you here. could you comment on the fact that, i mean, what's going on with students? they're meant to be the most educated in the land. oxford university literary students , university literary students, they can't even manage to read a
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single book . now, you've sold single book. now, you've sold 320 million books in your time . 320 million books in your time. what on earth's going on with them? >> well, it's interesting you say in your time, because the truth is that cain and abel came out on television 30 years ago when there were only three television stations bbc one, bbc two and itv. >> now there are 200. >> now there are 200. >> in fact, i'm sure i'm not sure there aren't 200 on netflix . sure there aren't 200 on netflix. and indeed the fashion has changed. >> even ten years ago , only 1% >> even ten years ago, only 1% of my books were on audio. >> now 9% are on audio. so the world has changed. >> and let's face it , charles >> and let's face it, charles dickens didn't have the problem of the things you've just mentioned. >> tick tock and other things . >> tick tock and other things. neither did alexander dumas, who managed to write the count of monte cristo and the three musketeers in the same year.
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>> and i wonder, sir geoffrey, if you were if you were trying to write books these days, you might need to switch off all of your devices, because that's the problem, isn't it? we're constantly interrupted by bleeps, by the, the, the, the desire to see what's going on in the world. but do you think this is actually having a bigger effect on human intelligence, or are we going backwards? >> yes , i think you've hit it in >> yes, i think you've hit it in one that that . one that that. >> sir geoffrey, sir geoffrey has been interrupted. see, we were just saying that gadgets always interrupt our lives. and sir geoffrey archer there was just getting into his flow. because i think that's the point here. it's not just that students take three weeks to read a book. it's they can't be bothered to read a book. they'd rather like, play on tiktok and kind of around, as it were, on social media, because that is just what they do these days. and i think this is having a measurable effect. and impact on
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human intelligence. i think people aren't reading books anymore because do you know what? when i was a kid, i used to get bored all the time, like sir jeffrey archer just said. there was like, there was nothing to do, especially on sundays. top of the pops. that was about it. you had to be creative. you had to sit down, read books. lord of the rings, get lost in adventure. use your imagination. use your noggin, and actually think, what could i do better in my life? when i was a student, i used to do that all the time. read books before going to the pub of course. now let's just have a quick update . let's just have a quick update. if you're if you're joining us at the end of the show about today's big news, and that was about the tory leadership race now down to three james cleverly on 39 votes. he puts 18 votes on dramatically surge into pole position. robert jenrick a lot of people thought he was the favourite. on the right of the party, the wheels are wobbling on his campaign. he's on 31 votes. he lost two kemi badenoch on 30, up from from 28 votes.
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tom tugendhat, meanwhile , he's tom tugendhat, meanwhile, he's been eliminated. those votes are all to play for same time tomorrow, 3:00. i'll be back at 330 tomorrow. we will know who the final two are. there will be two and we'll let you know who they are in the show. that's it. i'm done. dewbs& co is up next. and of course, it's with miriam cates tonight standing in for michelle dewberry. be back tomorrow at three. see you then. but now it's your weather. here's alex bercow . here's alex bercow. >> there will be a light breeze in the morning leading to a warm front . boxt heat pumps sponsors front. boxt heat pumps sponsors of weather on gb news. >> good evening. here's your latest gb news weather update coming to you from the met office. looking ahead. and by thursday things are looking largely dry, but quite a bit colder than of late . for the colder than of late. for the time being though, still plenty of wet weather around . low of wet weather around. low pressure dominating the story across the uk. it's this low
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pressure that has brought all the heavy thundery showers many of us have seen through today, and there will be some further showers as we go through the next few hours across england and wales, but many of them clearing away towards the east overnight. some persistent rain continuing though across parts of northern england and eastern scotland. so staying pretty soggy here with quite a bit of cloud around . temperatures won't cloud around. temperatures won't drop a huge amount, especially in the towns and cities, many places holding up in double figures. there will be generally fewer showers around tomorrow , fewer showers around tomorrow, but there will be some. in fact, even from the start, across far southern parts of england, a few showers, quite likely, perhaps a little bit drier across central southern parts of wales and the midlands for a time. but further north northern england. plenty of wet weather around, some outbreaks of rain , which could outbreaks of rain, which could be quite heavy and more persistent. rain affecting eastern parts of scotland. a very soggy start to the day here as we go through the day, the rain across parts of scotland and northern england will continue for a time, but it should start to break up as we go through into the afternoon
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and early evening. elsewhere, a scattering of showers around . scattering of showers around. not as many as we've seen through today, and they're not looking quite as intense. less likely to have the odd rumble of thunder, but still some heavy ones possible. and temperatures in the north starting to drop down as we get a northerly wind making its way across the country. that northerly wind then will push its way southwards across pretty much the whole of the country as we go through thursday. and so that means it is going to be a chillier day, but much fewer showers around in fact, it's looking largely dry. yes, some showers around coastal parts, but many places having a dry day on thursday and sticking with that drier theme until the weekend. by by. >> despite the morning rain, it'll be a nice warm, cosy day ahead. boxt pumps
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robert jenrick and kemi badenoch make it through to the next round in the conservative leadership election. as tom tugendhat bows out of the race. what do you make to the final three contestants and our children worse off under labour? labour has ruled out a smartphone ban in schools, while at the same time the government has hired a new comms chief from chinese owned tiktok. there's also the ongoing row about imposing vat on private schools, and a top professor is warning that students can't read long books anymore . so are we doing books anymore. so are we doing enough to protect our children in the online world? plus, as we wait for rachel reeves much anticipated budget, do labour have a handle on our finances? while a report out today says that we're facing the biggest exodus of millionaires in the world with higher taxes apparently driving the wealthiest away, and it seems that labour's raid on the bank
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