all across the uk in around and all across the uk in around 30 minutes time. the final two tory leadership candidates will be announced. will they play it safe and go for centrist james cleverly, or will they move to the right to try and eliminate the right to try and eliminate the threat of nigel farage.7 will any of it make any difference? anyway, we'll have the results live and then full expert analysis from both westminster and here back in the studio. and first, the labour party acts, the winter fuel allowance. next chancellor rachel reeves is eyeing up a £2 billion tax grab by lowering the tax free cap on pensions withdrawals. today's uncomfortable question is simply this does the labour party hate pensioners? that's all coming up in your next hour. welcome to the show. and three will become two in around about 30 minutes time. who do you want to be the future leader of the

conservative party? do you care? what does it mean for the political landscape? i'll be joined in the studio by gwen taylor, the legendary reform brexit party and ukip press guru, and also by matthew talbot from the labour party. what will this mean for both the labour party and reform, and indeed the conservatives? what will it do to your vote? who do you want to be? the leader? let me know your views. the usual ways gbnews.com/yoursay. but that's your headlines. and here's katie bowen . bowen. >> martin, thank you very much and good afternoon to you. the time has just gone 3:00 i'm katie bowen in the gb newsroom. now as you've been hearing the final stages of the tory leadership battle are getting closer and we're expecting the results of the next round of voting imminently. james cleverly , robert jenrick and cleverly, robert jenrick and kemi badenoch all remain in the contest as mps have been voting this afternoon to select the final two contenders. tom tugendhat was eliminated during

the latest round of voting yesterday , while james cleverly yesterday, while james cleverly came out on top with 39 votes once the final two candidates are selected this afternoon , are selected this afternoon, voting will open for conservative party members in the online ballot tomorrow. we'll bring you those results very shortly. elsewhere in politics, sir keir starmer faced questions in the house of commons this lunchtime as prime minister's questions returned. the leader of the opposition, rishi sunak , probed sir keir on rishi sunak, probed sir keir on whether tax rises were on the honzon whether tax rises were on the horizon in the upcoming budget. the tory leader, in one of his last pmqs, questioned the prime minister on if a promise not to raise taxes in the chancellor's budget applies to national insurance contributions from both employers and employees. here's what the prime minister had to say. >> we made an absolute commitment in relation to not raising tax on working people. he, of course, was the experts expert on raising taxes . and expert on raising taxes. and what did we get in return for it?

we've got a broken economy, broken public services and a £22 billion black hole in the economy. we're here to stabilise the economy and we will do so while the prime minister also faced questions from the lib dem leader , sir ed davey, about leader, sir ed davey, about british fishermen in the falklands amidst the controversial decision to hand the chagos islands back to mauritius. >> sir keir said that the falklands, which are personal to him , are british and they will him, are british and they will remain british. as to will gibraltar to the us, the biggest hurricane in a century is hitting florida today, with american president joe biden warning it's a matter of life and death for residents. if you're watching on television, these are live pictures we're bringing you from fort myers in the united states . around the united states. around a million people living in the path of hurricane milton are being evacuated with concerns that lives are in danger. others are choosing to stay put. have been securing their homes with

sandbags and wooden boards. the us weather service has classified the storm to the highest rating. that's category five, with winds of i75mph. expected flights between the uk and florida have also been cancelled . north yorkshire cancelled. north yorkshire police have issued an update this afternoon into the disappearance of victoria taylor , disappearance of victoria taylor, releasing a new cctv photograph of the 34 year old. a spokesman said that there was no information to suggest any form of third party involvement in the missing persons case at this time, and that there is now a high likelihood that victoria may have entered the river derwent. >> then the investigation. >> then the investigation. >> we are very open minded and will continue to explore all lines of inquiry based on the discovery of victoria's belongings so close to the water's edge, we must accept the significant possibility that victoria has entered the river derwent. >> searches are currently

underway and taking place in the river, and those searches have been taking place above and below the water surface . below the water surface. >> and finally, rebekah vardy has been ordered to pay coleen rooney a further £100,000 following their high profile wagatha christie libel battle. mrs. mrs. vardy sued mrs. rooney for libel but lost the high court legal action in 2022. mrs. rooney had earlier accused mrs. vardy of leaking her private information to the press , with information to the press, with wednesday marking the fifth anniversary of the viral social media post at the heart of the dispute . those are the latest dispute. those are the latest headunes dispute. those are the latest headlines from the gb newsroom. i'm katie bowen. now let's go back to martin for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone. >> sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts .

gbnews.com forward slash alerts. >> now, very shortly we'll find out who will be the final two candidates to be the next conservative party leader. will tory mps play it safe and go for the centrist james cleverly? will they keep kemi badenoch in the race, or will they move to the race, or will they move to the right in to order try and eliminate the threat of reform's nigel farage and keep robert jenrick in the contest? well, it's all to play for. and ahead of the announcement, we can now speak with gb news political editor chris hope, who joins us live from the historic westminster hall. live from the historic westminster hall . chris, welcome westminster hall. chris, welcome to the show. so this morning, the bookies had james cleverly nailed on. he was evens money to win the entire thing, let alone today. but there's been a lot of movement today chris hope the money is going towards kemi badenoch. tell us more . badenoch. tell us more. >> that's right. it feels i'm welcome here again to historic westminster hall that sees a lot of drama over the past centuries and a little bit of that drama

will be played out today in parliament, when we find out which of the final two to go to, the members , those numbers the members, those numbers overnight to remind viewers and listeners, james cleverly on 39 mps backing him, robert jenrick 31, kemi badenoch 30. it does feel to me that that robert jenrick voting vote has declined through the through recently and certainly over the past round, when he fell back to two mps to 31 and kemi badenoch gained some. and in fact today we've seen iain duncan smith come out for kemi badenoch. so it's interesting, i think that you have got a feeling of momentum behind kemi badenoch for the final two. but no question, most people now think that james cleverly is going to be in the final two. in fact, we heard from robert jenrick on gb news this morning, he said. the arithmetic suggests that james cleverly will be in the final, so his question for mps was do they ? who do they want? they? who do they want? alongside james cleverly? would it be kemi badenoch or him? all

i mean , it is genuinely a hard i mean, it is genuinely a hard to call this one. it feels the momentum with kemi badenoch. but last night those people close to robert jenrick was suggesting that some will come back from james cleverly and go towards him , or indeed some being lent him, or indeed some being lent to tom tugendhat support. even though he's knocked out yesterday, there could be a tie there. there is a possibility of a 40, 40, 40 tie because 120 mps are voting, rishi sunak, of course the outgoing leader is not voting. were that to happen, the 22 committee yesterday agreed to keep voting until it ends and it would not. as someone joked to me just now, a former aide to the tugendhat to the tom tugendhat campaign , he the tom tugendhat campaign, he said jokingly if it's a 40, 40, 40 tie, tom tugendhat wins. well, that's not going to happen. they're going to keep voting here until we get the final two to go forward to the membership. >> chris, we can't have a tie. we can't have a toss of the

coin. we can't have a repeat of the brexit nightmare. we need a result today. and i'm sure chris, hope, for all the drama aside, we're going to get one. and then the big question, chris, as we've been talking about for many, many weeks, is the party itself faces that fork in the road . does it stick with in the road. does it stick with the establishment choice ? james the establishment choice? james cleverly the safer of the two pair of hands, or does it take a gamble on a more right wing and potentially more populist candidate that might take the party in the direction of where the members want? and what do you think will happen? it's almost certain we're going to get cleverly. he's 16 to 1 on to get cleverly. he's 16 to 1 on to get through today. he's nailed on barring a lightning strike. james cleverly is through. so it's going to be cleverly versus one of the two right wingers. and then chris out the party has got a big choice to make . got a big choice to make. >> yes, a huge choice. i think the mps, if you take a step back, martin, have done their job here. they're offering a left wing left of centre candidate and a right of centre candidate and a right of centre candidate in james cleverly or

and kemi badenoch or robert jenrick. that's what the mps had to do to give the vote. the membership 140,000 or so tory members, the choice and which way to go and make that choice, that fork in the road. as you describe it, there's 4.1 million people who voted for reform uk party. probably three quarters of them were were tories. how to pull them back ? now james pull them back? now james cleverly thinks he's being bold and firm and staying firm as a tory will just draw them back as the unelectability in terms of forming a government of reform uk becomes clear. kemi badenoch and robert jenrick would also go towards reform and try and attract those voters in a more aggressive fashion, whether that works, i don't know. and the question is how much trouble do you think the tory party is in? they are down to 121 mps. is that the floor or is there more to fall in which case james cleverly is somebody who could restore the party in one turn? but would he have have it in him

to try and overhaul the party over ten years? someone like kevin badenoch, as an engineer, you know, she knows what she feels. she's someone who has made a big play for trying to reconstruct a new coalition to vote tory. she could be the answer. so the real question for mps, for me, with half an hour to go to the result is how much trouble are they in? >> well, that's the question and we'll be back to you in about 20 minutes time. chris, hope for that historic result. thank you very much. we're back soon to you, chopper. now joining me in the studio for analysis. the former labour adviser matthew talbot and the former head of comms for reform uk, gordon taylor . gentlemen, welcome to taylor. gentlemen, welcome to the show. gordon. i'm going to start with you. so that fork in the road, the tory party has to make a choice . the members seem make a choice. the members seem to want it to go more into the direction of reform and actual conservative conservative party. what do you think will happen today and what opportunity does that represent for the reform party? >> i think as as chris has been

saying, the like the very strong likelihood as is james is going to make his way through cleverly, he's going to make his way through. >> he's likeable, nice. he doesn't scare horses unless he pinches them and he. >> and in some ways, is that actually what the tory party needs? they've had years of infighting and they've had years of nastiness. they've had years of nastiness. they've had years of terrifying. the public, their grandmothers and any local neighbour and having someone like james, who is affable and decent and homely and friendly , decent and homely and friendly, perhaps as a sort of they need to hug, they need a hug, and james can provide that sort of hug, and they might not be so ruddy toxic to the general public. whereas if you look at genenc public. whereas if you look at generic robert jenrick, he i don't think anybody actually believes this damascene conversion to a sort of reform lite that came out of the out of

the i remember the newark by—election, and i believe i actually coined that nickname because i went to two hustings and i came away just i could not think of a thing. and i came away just i could not think of a thing . i left the think of a thing. i left the room and forgot everything he'd said. he looked like a tory mp. he looked everything you expected from a tory mp and has behaved his entire career as everything expected from a tory mp until that moment. >> suddenly he's a mini nigel farage and suddenly. >> yes, but why ? why but why go >> yes, but why? why but why go for the soft, the soft version, the one that you don't actually believe? at least nigel has stuck by his convictions for years, despite the opprobrium of the country in many parts of the country, he has stuck with it. and i mean , we were we were and i mean, we were we were often obviously, i worked with him for many years and we were often described as a populist party. trust me, mate, we were an unpopular party, a deeply unpopular party, and stuck to our guns. and it's because plenty of people, people like to say the same about about somebody like thatcher is they don't necessarily like her or like her views, but they trusted

her to stick to them. and you knew where you stood with them, and there was a level of integrity and honesty there. and if we are all talking about integrity in politics and we are and all parties claim it, that's complete volte face does throw all sorts of questions at okay, matthew, in terms of the aspects, the landscape for the labour party, who the labour party would like to see most get in, who would be the easiest to take on out of for example, kemi badenoch or james cleverly? >> i think jenrick, i think precisely because of what gordon just outlined. >> i think kemi would make the culture war aspects of politics very uncomfortable for keir starmer, who isn't very good on that sort of stuff anyway, and from labour mps i spoke to yesterday, they see james cleverly as the most , the one cleverly as the most, the one that they should fear the most, the one that's got any sort of credibility in the public eye. >> and i think that that might be the key thing where the conservative party needs to not necessarily focus on its members, because having been through several election defeats as a as a labour member , we probably a labour member, we probably chose the wrong miliband brother

in 2010 and we may have won an election otherwise . election otherwise. >> labour members also thought jeremy corbyn might be the best opfion jeremy corbyn might be the best option in 2015. and it goes to show, and i've always thought members don't always know best in political parties and what you need to do, which is what i think cleverly would probably do, is reach out to the whole country because it's the country you need to win over, not the members at the end of the day, but goodwin, wouldn't that feel like history repeating itself? >> haven't the tory party for all these years? certainly since brexit, tried to be all things to all voters and the last election, for that precise reason, they were trounced. >> yes, they were, but in the case of corbyn, he got what, one and a half, 2 million more votes than starmer. so he wasn't that unpopular in the country. in fact, he was significantly more popular than the current government. so i'm not sure if that argument actually works. you were just, i suppose , you were just, i suppose, unlucky in that boris at that point was hugely popular, unlucky in the fact that any threat of starmer, sturgeon and that woman from dumbarton, whose

name i've forgotten had a chance. yes, thank you. had the had the opportunity of forming a government. so the brexit party, as you will remember, very well, stood down against the tories and completely changed the game, wiped out the lib dems, put the labour from an aggressive campaign to a defensive campaign and made the difference. so corbyn was unlucky and starmer was lucky in the people they were fighting . were fighting. >> can i ask you just in a name? who do you think the reform party would most like to win today?i party would most like to win today? i don't care, really don't care. >> we have to deal with what happens. whatever happens, we have to deal with it. i think kemi, she's ideological, but i think she's brittle. she loses her temper, she annoys her colleagues like nobody's business and as i say, generic, it doesn't feel authentic and cleverly . is a great amorphous cleverly. is a great amorphous blob is nice, but i don't think he's ever going to inspire. but he's ever going to inspire. but he could actually steady the ship. so i don't think it

matters to us. we have to. we have to plough our own furrow. whatever we do, it doesn't matter because it's going to be four years hence. and honestly, do you really think whoever wins this is necessarily going to lead the tory party into the next government, the next election? i'm not so sure. >> okay, gentlemen, thank you very much for now and coming up imminently, we'll find out which of james cleverly robert jenrick all kemi badenoch will not make it to the final two of the leadership contest. we'll bring

welcome back. it's 3:20 now, and around about ten minutes time. we'll get the live results of the final mp voting round of the tory leadership contest. and ahead of this result and ahead of that, we've got in the studio the former labour adviser matthew talbot, and the former head of communications for reform, gawain towler. gentlemen, welcome back to the show. what do you think is going to happen today? let's start

with you, matthew. who do you think so cleverly nailed on his 16 to 1 on to get through. but it's all to play for. for the right wing candidate, either badenoch or jenrick. who do you think's going to make the grade. >> i think with today in mind there will be some lending of votes and i think it may be him if he wants it , how he wants it, if he wants it, how he wants it, be him and jenrick because i think he sees him as the weaker candidate. >> many tories have said the mps are the most duplicitous sort of voters that they've ever known , voters that they've ever known, and i imagine there'll be lots of lending votes from tugendhat yesterday and actually i think it'd be interesting. that means a little bit of if it doesn't go his way, it'll be a little bit of history because we're going to get the first black leader of a mainstream political party, which, you know, i think for all and sundry of how divided the country is, it shows, you know , country is, it shows, you know, something positive and it shows that the labour party still haven't been that good on diversity, despite all of the cap wearing. >> what do you think will happen today, gwen? >> and if it was kemi, the first black woman? yep . beat the black woman? yep. beat the americans. yes , yes.

americans. yes, yes. >> but so we've got some live pictures there. that is committee room 14. that is where the results will be announced around about eight minutes time. you can see they're filing in now. of course we'll cross live to that for that result as it happens. but until that time, gawain, what do you think will happen today? is there a scenario where there might be that horse trading to make sure jenrick makes the final two, so he won't get the membership ? the he won't get the membership? the members favourite seems to be kemi badenoch will james cleverly try and stop that? >> i think that's entirely possible. i mean, as you were saying, the horse trading they are maybe duplicitous, but i think the word they prefer to use is. it's gone well, but think the word they prefer to use is. it's gone well , but the use is. it's gone well, but the they like to see themselves the most sophisticated electorates in the world. but the. i can't believe a single one of the 20 that voted for tom tugendhat is voting for kemi badenoch out of choice. yeah, out of a bent arm , choice. yeah, out of a bent arm, perhaps, but certainly not. >> two different way, two different. >> and so they would naturally swing almost entirely to

cleverly, which allows cleverly's campaign managers and team to have a bit of leeway of how they want to play it. so i think the person who comes second is the one that cleverly wants to fight, right? and so because of that ability to, to, to use their majority to, to suit their purposes. >> so team cleverly could be saying to team tugendhat. right. so the 20 votes you got stick them on jenrick . so we keep them on jenrick. so we keep badenoch off the ticket and then you'll get your man. >> but though i have heard noises out of the generic team saying that they were not happy and that was an hour ago, they were very unhappy with where things were looking. >> so and that's because they may sense that that horse racing momentum is happening, that momentum is happening, that momentum that chris was talking about. >> but i think the horse trading aspect, as you say, the they are sophisticated , they are sophisticated, they are duplicitous. and as i say, the power now lies in cleverlys campaign managers and also explains why only 16 of cleverlys backers have actually come out publicly , so you can come out publicly, so you can get away with loading quite a

lot of votes if you wish to do so. and i think somebody actually said the last time that happened was liz truss in 2022. so it may well be the same, same outcome. >> it's interesting how she should lose after the general election. the conservative brand seemed so damaged it seemed almost at a point it was irretrievably damaged. and yet a poll out yesterday, astonishingly, has the tories only one point behind the labour party. i guess that's because sir keir starmer let's be let's be frank, he's had a nightmare since to become the prime minister. and so all the tories hoping that they just need to be not as bad as labour and therefore, if cleverly gets back in, as you said, to steady the ship, there's that possibility by just not being as bad as laboun by just not being as bad as labour, they might hang around and try and get in again. >> well, 2024 showed that's how you can potentially win an election , and i'd love to say election, and i'd love to say i was surprised that the tories are a point behind. i think that would that would suggest that , would that would suggest that, you know, keir starmer was ever a popular as a leader. he's never been popular as a leader. i think he had his sort of high tide mark during the brexit era

and trying to push for a second referendum with a certain group of people, but ultimately he's not popular, and i always felt the tories were 20 points behind that. labour weren't 20 points ahead.soi that. labour weren't 20 points ahead. so i think it doesn't surprise me and i think what we will see, regardless of who wins, is reform overtaking the conservatives in the polls and then actually not long after, probably around christmas time or the new year, they'll overtake labour as well, which which will put more pressure on labour to get their act together. >> and i hope, goodwin, do you think there could be everyone looks at the local the first wave of local elections after general elections, when the incumbent government usually get its backside kicked . this time its backside kicked. this time around, they expect that to be with bells on. >> my memory suggests that it's about two down the line. the first one they're normally on, they're still on the honeymoon . they're still on the honeymoon. the honeymoon is well and truly oven the honeymoon is well and truly over, but they are normally on a honeymoon, so i'm not sure it is the smallest of the various. and it is the county's. it's the tory seats. it's the tory held councils. the remaining few tory held councils, the county councils, the things like

lincolnshire and somerset and things of this sort which wiltshire now obviously the lib dems will be snapping at the heels. the tories. but labour and it is not a strong set of council elections for labour. and honestly it's not. there are there are regions of the country for reform. you've got to look at kent, you've got to look at essex, lincolnshire, you've got to look at bits of norfolk, staffordshire, derbyshire, a place like this where you can see reform putting in a good fight and we should be picking as long as we select the candidates, as long as we have the of the people we should be putting up a good show. but i don't think this is going to be that much of a referendum on this government because it's not labour areas , as i say, wales labour areas, as i say, wales and scotland. that's where things become interesting in 2026. >> matthew, i think there have been 10 or 11 council or by elections now . labour party elections now. labour party hasn't won a single one. it's been a dismal turn of affairs. are you expecting there to be a punishing wave of defeats for labourin punishing wave of defeats for labour in may? >> i think maybe because of the

areas, not necessarily. >> so they might be able to get away with it, but i think there's so much yet to come that will, even if it's not labour's fault, we'll be blamed. we're looking at a third of councils likely going bankrupt. there's almost certainly going to have to be another release of prisoners to free up some spaces . prisoners to free up some spaces. thames water i'll be astounded if they don't go bust and that will be left on the government's plate. and that's before you get to things like donors and the budget no doubt being panned because rachel reeves thinks she can cut her way to growth, which doesn't make sound economics to me. so i would have thought so. and i think gawain is probably more right, the more interesting ones for the labour party would be ones in scotland and wales, which is more of a natural home for them. >> and just to interrupt there, that's live pictures of committee room 14. we're expecting an announcement in just over two minutes time. matthew, on that point of labour's unpopularity, could i ask you that question? i mentioned at the top of the show about pensioners, the winter fuel allowance cuts has been, by any reckoning, it's been a terribly unpopular decision. perhaps no one that they may regret. october the 30th. all

eyes are on the budget announcements. the news today, a raid on pensioners bringing down the pension cap. what's what's going on with the with the labour party and pensioners? is it because pensioners don't vote for labour? you don't care about them? >> i don't know about not caring. >> i do think the cynic in me thinks that pensioners have money and the labour party needs money. pensioners don't tend to vote labour now the people that do vote labour are is normally a safe voter base is public sector workers. so it isn't a great surprise. i don't think it's very wise because voters, pensioners almost certainly always vote. but to take from peter to pay paul almost to shore up your votes for future elections. and i think that is potentially what it is. >> okay. we got a quick minute before we cut to committee room 14 there. gwen, final word to you before we go for this announcement. >> i think you're right there does look like a piece of paper, paul does look like a piece of paper, paul. it really does. but i think that is also has it. it's another danger is if what one sees now in the under 25 seconds. there's this assumption

that the under 25 will always be left wing. they'll always be green. no. and if we look across the continent and we're beginning to see here the tiktok generation are not necessarily reform are overtaking the greens in the under 25 seconds. they've left the tories well behind and they're not they're not close to labour yet. but we're looking at you in a very interesting way. >> and that's a similar political movement to what we've seen in france and in germany. and we're 20 years behind the netherlands, we're 20 years behind the continents on this. >> but it's definitely moving andifs >> but it's definitely moving and it's got to be. and you mentioned various things which i think are very real, but immigration is still going to be have an impact even at local level, because in those councils which have had to have hostels, have to have places like this, these are big local issues though. the winter fuel allowance last week , when reform allowance last week, when reform won its first county district council election, or city council, in the case of blackpool, it was the winter fuel allowance on the doorstep. absolutely. talking to our campaign team up there, that was what made the big difference very quickly before they come

in, you know, it's not an election winner because we've seen dozens of labour councils bringing in their own version of the winter fuel allowance because they know they're going to get a kick in and actually to regardless of economics, it's just not fair. and it doesn't feel right. it's not good politics. no, i agree there we go and there we go. >> let's cross now live to the result of the next round of the tory leadership contest. here we go. right. thank you for that warm reception as as chairman of the 1922 committee and returning officer in the leadership contest, i can now give you the results of the fourth and final parliamentary ballot, which is good news for all of us in that respect. >> so 120 mps voted, and i can report the numbers of votes for each candidate as follows. kemi badenoch, 42 votes. james cleverly 37 votes and robert

jenrick 41 votes. so as a result of that, that ballot, james cleverly is eliminated from the contest and kemi badenoch and robert jenrick now go forward to the ballot of members . thank you the ballot of members. thank you very much for your attendance . wow. >> well, that was a result i don't think few people saw coming. the bookmakers certainly did not see that coming . just to did not see that coming. just to repeat, james cleverly, who was the bookies favourite. he was 16 to 1 on to make the final two this morning. he was odds on 1 to 1 to be the next leader . to 1 to be the next leader. dramatically kicked out of the final three, scraping through, scraping 37 votes together, only putting on from yesterday. he went actually from 30. what do you have yesterday he went down. so 37 votes for cleverly, 42 for kemi badenoch, who took the most

votes? robert jenrick on 41 votes. that means we've got a we've got a head to head for the leadership contest. of the two right wing candidates. i don't think anybody saw that one coming and going. and here was threw his head back in exhaustion in laughter. nobody saw that coming whatsoever. now we can speak with gb news political editor chris hope. chris hope that was a result. i think very few people saw coming. everybody expected, as we said, there to be a centrist versus a right winger. instead, we've got a head to head between the two right wing candidates. chris, i can see you're astounded. tell us your reaction . astounded. tell us your reaction. >> i'm very rarely surprised. in politics. i am astounded by what has just happened because no one, literally no one, thought that james cleverly would go out at this round. he looked like he was going to hoover up the 20 spare votes from tom tugendhat. he's a moderate centre left candidate. instead .

candidate. instead. unbelievably, he has gone back by two. jenrick has gone ahead by two. jenrick has gone ahead by ten and badenoch badenoch has won. kemi badenoch has won the tory mps vote, which no one saw coming . i tory mps vote, which no one saw coming. i don't tory mps vote, which no one saw coming . i don't know what's coming. i don't know what's happened. i'm going to have to explain this to viewers and listeners. at some point. we will get guests over here to explain these tory mps. they are the most extraordinary electorate. i am sure gawain is chuckling away in the studio at this, but no one saw kemi badenoch winning the vote after what was a difficult conference. no one saw robert jenrick coming through as second place and now james cleverly, whoever everyone thought was amassing votes, piling up, piling them up, ready to dispense them to, to work out who he wanted to face in the final two. he's out . it who he wanted to face in the final two. he's out. it is extraordinary. >> and chris, maybe this has got something to do with the fact. last night there was an op ed by allison pearson in the telegraph ,

allison pearson in the telegraph, and it had thousands and thousands and thousands of comments. and she said this if james cleverly wins, i'm off to the reform party because basically it means the conservative party haven't listened to anything that anybody said these past years about the conservative party actually being conservative. we need to go towards the right, and that means it must be badenoch or i'm not saying that allison pearson has swayed this, but thousands and thousands and thousands of conservatives seem to agree. you can't keep just putting the centrist candidate out. hope to please everybody and have any chance of winning and have any chance of winning and that's been acted upon. but everybody is flabbergasted at this. most of all, you . this. most of all, you. >> yes. i mean, maybe allison pearson does have that influence. the daily daily telegraph, who she writes for, is, of course, the house paper of the conservative party. so it could well be the case that that influenced mps. seeing that i saw earlier today, ian duncan—smith declaring for kemi badenoch, that was why i felt that she had momentum. i never i

do not understand how robert jenrick has added ten votes overnight, unless somehow there was some jiggery pokery and people were lending votes to tom ngannou and to cleverly to to, lull the centre of the party into some some form of, of some, some form of support that it would be okay and to my left now has arrived. andrew bowie, who is the spokesman for the kemi badenoch campaign. if you'll bear with me, martin, i will ask him now. what the hell just happened? andrew bowie, welcome, gb news. it's good to see you. what on earth? what on earth just happened? >> well, i mean, you tell me. >> well, i mean, you tell me. >> what did happen, though, was quite clear. the members favourite topped the ballot. kemi won the vote of mps, demonstrating that she has support from across the party, a majority of mps backing her now, and we look forward to taking the arguments out to the membership and seeing how she gets on. >> i know, i know what just happened. i can read numbers, but how the how did that happen?

>> i mean, once again, your guessis >> i mean, once again, your guess is as good as mine. i'm just delighted that 42 mps saw fit to back kemi badenoch today. quite clear she's the members favourite . quite clear she's who favourite. quite clear she's who keir starmer fears most and quite clear she's the only one with the plan to renew this party and take it into the next election. >> this party is now lurching to the right, isn't it? the two centrist candidates have gone. it's a choice between a right wing candidate and a second right wing candidate. >> i don't i don't think that's true. but we need to become a conservative party once again . i conservative party once again. i think there are a lot of people out there who don't really understand what the conservative party stood for in the last election. some people have accused it of being too far to the left, other people accused of being too far to the right. kemi's plan is to bring everybody together and develop a policy platform that will appeal to the majority of the british people. that is what she's going to do. >> and just very finally, kemi badenoch was the one candidate who wanted to go to the full distance to the 2nd of november. there's no chance now of ending this early, is there? >> i don't think so, purely because the mechanics are already set in process and the machinery is all set in. train for a 2nd of november result, and i look forward to it. >> andrew bowie, their spokesman

for kemi badenoch, equally in the dark. i will come back with more intelligence later. martin. >> well, we're going to try and make sense of this in the studio . make sense of this in the studio. also, a lot of just exasperation, laughter , gasping exasperation, laughter, gasping the whole gamut. thank you very much. chris. hope will come back for more soon. lots more to come between now and 4:00, of course, including all those reaction to the immensely shocking news that former home secretary james cleverly has not made into the final two of the tory leadership

welcome back . what a show welcome back . what a show welcome back. what a show welcome back. what a show already. it's 340 on martin already. it's 340 on martin daubney on gb news. now let's daubney on gb news. now let's continue our reaction to the continue our reaction to the news that james cleverly has news that james cleverly has been dramatically eliminated been dramatically eliminated from the tory leadership from the tory leadership contest. a sharp intake of contest. a sharp intake of breath and let's go back now to breath and let's go back now to gb news political editor chris gb news political editor chris hope. hope. gb news political editor chris hope . chris, have you calmed gb news political editor chris hope . chris, have you calmed hope. chris, have you calmed down a bit yet? yet when we hope. chris, have you calmed down a bit yet? yet when we

spoke to you a moment ago, you spoke to you a moment ago, you were simply flabbergasted. now you've got another guest. let's try and make sense of this over to you . to you. >> i'm very rarely surprised. in politics, you can see most things coming. labour's landslide look pretty obvious in the polls from a few weeks out, but literally no one saw james cleverly going out. basically , cleverly going out. basically, as an mp told me a few moments ago, he was the effective leader

e—n— n i think what kemi. i mean, i think what happenedis kemi. i mean, i think what happened is enough people decided that those were the right two to put to the membership. >> i think the members want one of those. >> two, by the way, is my sense from my local association. >> i think people will be pleased with this outcome, but they're both from the right, though, aren't they? >> you've got two right wing candidates for the bass. how will that appeal to all of britain at an election which is broadly more centrist? >> well, actually, i think what they both stand for is change, and i think robert stands for it best because he has a comprehensive plan for how to win back the voters that we lost to reform on one side, to the liberal democrats and labour on the other. so actually, i think we've now got a choice between two candidates, both promising to to be be the change candidate. i only think rob is the is the genuine one, in my view. >> and then whoever wins, we can then go to the country with a real commitment. we're going to deliver for them in the way that i'm afraid to say. despite a lot of good work, we did in the last government, we didn't successfully do, we have got to rebuild our trust with the public, and that does mean changing ourselves. >> it means shifting down a generation. these are younger. you have a much younger leader than keir starmer going into the next election. that's

interesting. certainly more to the right . you've got robert the right. you've got robert jenrick promising echr withdrawal. kemi badenoch promising a rewiring of the entire parliamentary party. maybe this is the moment at which the party woke up to the state. it's in. it needs to have some kind of radical surgery . some kind of radical surgery. >> i think that's right. >> i think that's right. >> i think in 2019 we were elected on a mandate to change the country. and i think kemi is right to talk about rewiring the state. robert jenrick makes the same point. fundamentally, the british government does not work for the british people. and one element of that, by the way, is the echr. it's our entanglement in international legal frameworks we need to get out of. but there's more to do as well about reforming the public sector, getting the economy working properly , making working properly, making whitehall work, reducing the size of government so that it works better for the people. and i think we can go into the next election with a very coherent, proper plan for reform. >> just one final question. can you explain how your candidate went backwards yesterday and then leapt forward ten votes today to come second? >> that's what happens in these races. >> we're talking about small numbers of mps. sadly, we only have 120 people and i'm afraid to say they move around during

the race to decide who they're, who they want to put forward. i mean, these races are always difficult. i'm glad to say robert picked up support consistently through the race. we started way behind. he's now emerged as one of the top two and i'm very pleased about that. i think he's demonstrated his seriousness and his hard work and his commitment to a broad church that the conservative party is. while having a very coherent plan for the changes that we need. okay. >> well , that we need. okay. >> well, danny kruger there, again with no real explanation, i shall bring you more intelligence on what on earth just happened. it's a surprising afternoon. >> chris hoban, danny kruger, thank you very much for that. and let's get back to the studio now to try and make some sense of it here. i'm still joined by the labour adviser, former labour adviser matthew talbot, and the former head of comms for reform uk, gordon taylor. gents . reform uk, gordon taylor. gents. well, they're all stunned. we're all stunned yesterday robert jenrick the wheels were coming off today's turbo boosted ten extra votes. he's come from nowhere. cleverly was nailed on with the bookies with the pundits, with everybody. he's dramatically out the question

now to you, gawain, is there are a lot of mps out there who won't agree with either of these two leaders. politics. the remainer tories, the shire tories, the wet tories, as you may unfavourably call them. how will they react to having one of these two as their as their new leader? >> i suppose one could call it the wet rump, but i hope not. >> but moving swiftly onwards. >> but moving swiftly onwards. >> but moving swiftly onwards. >> but the point the point is, is well made , astonishingly, in is well made, astonishingly, in the duplicity and the sophistication of this , of this sophistication of this, of this electorate is such that they may have actually woken up to the fact that nobody likes them any more as a party. and if they wish to do anything at all, they have got to look at the country as it is and see where that that that mood is switching in those who are on the centre right. and it is certainly switching in an area into the area led by farage. and you have the sort of even the tories, if they want to keep their seats going forward

and there's no guarantee that they will, despite the attempts of the labour party to resuscitate them with every roadside, is that they , they, roadside, is that they, they, they went for them because but they went for them because but the question is, do they believe in the future? >> okay, matthew, quickly, before we head to break, the future might be bright, but the future might be bright, but the future is on the right. how did that go down with the labour party? i think, well, i've just had a text from a labour mp who said, grab your passport, we're all going to have to leave the country if either of these two end up. >> prime minister. so i think that, safe to say, the labour party are probably pleased at this. i think cleverly probably was the biggest threat in the sense of trying to win over so—called sensibles. i think also we probably know the viewers a bit of an apology. you promised them expert analysis at the top of the show. we've totally called it all wrong. >> well, the bookies got it wrong, everybody got it wrong, everybody in westminster is surprised. thank you gentlemen. now don't go anywhere. we'll have more reaction to the shock. news with james cleverly has been dramatically eliminated from the tory leadership race. i'm martin daubney on news, britain's news

welcome back. it's 10 to 4. i'm martin daubney on gb news now. joining me in the studio. i'm still with the former labour adviser matthew talbot, and the former head of comms for reform uk, gordon taylor, trying to make sense of what's just happened matthew, the bookies called it right though the bookies shifted dramatically this morning. they had kemi as the favourite at 8 to 11, cleverly slipped 11 to 8. the bookies got it right, we got it wrong. the mps got it wrong all the so—called experts got it wrong. onto what this could mean for the labour party. you made an excellent point during the break about kemi is very good at the dispatch box and people remember and notice that. >> yeah, i think most the general public who aren't political geeks like the rest of us and living for it will mostly normally see things like the news at ten and prime minister's questions, and that will be their sort of political insight . their sort of political insight. she is very effective at the despatch box because she is a

black woman and a very proud conservative and very forthright in her views. it makes it puts labour on the back foot a bit, a little thing. i think labour have always been seen as a little bit condescending towards race and the sort of diversity sort of stuff, and i think the tories are a lot better on race than certainly historically used to be. and with that, it will put keir starmer in a very uncomfortable position on things like immigration, black history month, any sort of diversity stuff that's raised and that can be painted as sort of quote unquote woke . and she would be unquote woke. and she would be out of the two now that i think would cause a larger headache for keir starmer. and i think whether it be for good reasons or bad, would show something different on offer compared to the fact that people sort of said that you couldn't get a cigarette paper in between rishi sunak and keir starmer. so she's certainly going to offer something if she wins. i think generally it will remain to be seen. he doesn't strike me as that much of a threat at the moment. >> gordon, politicians, journalists, they like to make a big you know, song and dance about, oh, it should be the first black woman to the

electorate care about any of that anymore. they just want the best person for the job. >> honestly think that the vast, vast , vast majority of the vast, vast majority of the people of this country really don't care. can they do a good job? really? that we passed, that we really are ? people said that we really are? people said that we really are? people said that in 1976, when thatcher became leader of the tory party before she won the general election, are the tories ready to vote for a woman? well, yeah, they were, weren't they? and so, frankly, i don't think this is the issue that some people would like to make it. i do think that my concern for badenoch tory party is showing concern for a party i have no concern for, of course, is that she has and i know plenty of tory mps who she has knifed in the back in the past. >> she has she may have support i the mathematics of having 40 being a majority of 120 being fascinating to me but the but she having support . she having support. >> yeah she has support there but day to day working with her all the time knowing that she's

going to leak , knowing she's going to leak, knowing she's going to leak, knowing she's going to leak, knowing she's going to brief against you, knowing she's going to stick him in in the ribs because she's been doing it before. we all know that the beginning of this campaign, the leaking of the of the meetings notes and all the rest of it, they may support her because she might do exactly what matthew has been saying and be that difference and look different and be different and create create clear blue water, as they say , between the two as they say, between the two parties. >> matthew, final word to you this hour. so it could be the case that the conservative party have the first black woman leader, and that's rather embarrassing for the diversity card players in the labour party. >> yeah, i've always said, i don't know how much longer the labour party can call themselves the progressive party when the fact that, you know , the fact that, you know, the conservatives will have had three women prime ministers , three women prime ministers, they've had an asian, asian prime minister. we're getting ready to go, potentially for the first black female and the fourth female regardless. and we're still electing posh men from london. so it's no, it's not a great look and they may get another i think cleverly will get a second bite of the cherry. i think if she goes

dunng cherry. i think if she goes during the locals they have a bad locals. in two years they might have another one. >> okay. superb. matthew talbot, gordon taylor, thank you very much for our so—called expert analysis this hour. now, plenty more reaction to the news that robert jenrick and kemi badenoch will be the final two candidates in the tory leadership contest. who with membership pick next. i'm martin daubney on gb news now is your weather with alex burkill . burkill. >> expect a warm front moving from the kitchen right through to the rest of the house. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello again. here's your gb news weather update coming to you from the met office. for many of us, it has been a pretty wet few days and we are actually going to see a lot of that rain. those showers easing as we go through the next 24 hours or so. we do still have low pressure nearby, and we are still seeing some rain for the next couple of hours, but a lot of that rain is pushing its way southwards and

breaking up. most of the showers will be easing and clearing away as well. as we go through this evening with some clearer skies developing, particularly across parts of scotland, northern ireland and later northern england overnight. all of that happening because we have a brisk northerly wind and that could lead to some blustery conditions for some of us in the north, where we get those clear skies, it is going to be a chilly night. could be a touch of frost in some places. still a bit milder though towards the south here it's actually going to be a bit of a damp start to the day, but further north, away from areas exposed to that northerly wind, it's largely dry across central southern scotland, with some bright sunshine, but elsewhere where we have that northerly wind we are going to see some showers pushing through some showers across parts of northern ireland. first thing, and down the eastern side of england as well . elsewhere, many places well. elsewhere, many places across central, northern england starting the day largely fine. a few showers for parts of wales and, like i said, across the far south of england, a bit of a damp start, but that rain will clear away as we go through the day. and so for many, tomorrow is going to be a much drier and

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the uk. a shock result in the tory leadership contest . tory leadership contest. >> kemi badenoch , 42 votes. >> kemi badenoch, 42 votes. james cleverly 37 votes and robert jenrick, 41 votes. >> yes . robert jenrick, 41 votes. >> yes. former home robert jenrick, 41 votes. >> yes . former home secretary >> yes. former home secretary james cleverly has been dramatically voted out and will not be the leader of the conservative party. kemi badenoch, who won today's round, will face off against robert jenrick in the final two. and the finalists will take part in a live exclusive event on october the 17th. live here on gb news. and meanwhile, across the pond , millions of people in the pond, millions of people in florida are rushing to leave their homes as hurricane milton races towards the state's west coast. and this is what florida governor ron desantis had to say a short while ago. >> we are bracing and are prepared to receive a major hit .

prepared to receive a major hit. >> once the show. a pleasure to have your company. well, they are expecting a major hit in florida today. james cleverly took a massive hit in westminster. he was nailed on this morning 16 to 1 on to make the final two. a late surge on kemi badenoch and the rest is history. kemi badenoch 42 votes. putting on plus nine overnight. james cleverly 37. he lost two votes. overnight, robert jenrick came from nowhere. yesterday we were saying the wheels were coming off his campaign. he put ten votes on 41. that means the membership will now choose between generic and badenoch. that means there will be a right wing candidate, the leader of the conservative party, james cleverly, the bookies favourite. until this morning, dramatically ousted from this race. what do

you make of that? send your views and post your comments by going to gbnews.com/yoursay. but now it's your headlines and here's katie bowen . here's katie bowen. >> martin, thank you and good afternoon. the time has just gone 4:00 i'm katie bowen in the gb newsroom. now as you've been heanng gb newsroom. now as you've been hearing breaking news this afternoon, tory mps have now selected the final two candidates in the conservative leadership election, with kemi badenoch and robert jenrick making it through to the members vote. kemi badenoch received 42 votes. robert jenrick picked up 41 and james cleverly received 37, meaning he has now been eliminated from the race. cleverly has thanked his colleagues, party members and the public for the support he received during his campaign. voting will open for conservative party members in an onune conservative party members in an online ballot tomorrow , closing online ballot tomorrow, closing online ballot tomorrow, closing on october the 31st. elsewhere

in politics, sir keir starmer faced questions in the house of commons this lunchtime as prime minister's questions returned. the leader of the opposition, rishi sunak, probed sir keir on whether tax rises were on the honzon whether tax rises were on the horizon in the upcoming budget. the tory leader, in one of his last pmqs, questioned the prime minister on if a promise not to raise taxes in the chancellor's budget applies to national insurance contributions from both employers and employees. here's what the prime minister had to say. >> we made an absolute commitment in relation to not raising tax on working people. he, of course, was the experts expert on raising taxes. and what did we get in return for it? we've got a broken economy, a broken public services and a £22 billion hole in the £22 billion black hole in the economy. we're here to stabilise the economy and we will do so to the economy and we will do so to the us. >> the biggest hurricane in a century is hitting florida today ,

century is hitting florida today, with american president joe biden warning it's a matter of life and death for residents. if you're watching on television, these are live pictures we're bringing you from fort myers in the united states. around a million people living in the path of hurricane milton are being evacuated with concerns that lives are in danger. a few moments ago, florida governor ron desantis held a press conference where he updated residents on the measures in place for their safety. >> there is high confidence that this hurricane is going to pack a punch and an a major, major punch and do an awful damage. the state awful lot of damage. the state is actively fulfilling over 1400 missions. we've delivered massive amounts of supplies, meals, water bottles, sandbags, tarps, generators to be able to help our local communities. >> north yorkshire police have issued an update this afternoon into the disappearance of victoria taylor, releasing a new cctv photograph of the 34 year old. a spokesman said that there

was no information to suggest any form of third party involvement in the missing persons case, and that there is a high likelihood that victoria may have entered the river derwent, but any investigation. >> we are very open minded and will continue to explore all lines of enquiry based on the discovery of victoria's belongings so close to the water's edge. we must accept the significant possibility that victoria has entered the river derwent . searches are currently derwent. searches are currently underway and taking place in the river, and those searches have been taking place above and below the water surface. >> and finally, rebekah vardy has been ordered to pay coleen rooney a further £100,000 following their high profile wagatha christie libel battle. mrs. vardy sued mrs. rooney for libel but lost the high court legal action in 2022. mrs. rooney had earlier accused mrs. vardy of leaking her private information to the press, with wednesday marking the fifth

anniversary of the viral social media post at the heart of the dispute . those are your latest dispute. those are your latest gb news headlines for now, i'm katie bowen. more from me in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com. >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> thank you katie. wonderful stuff. now a shock result in the race to become the next leader of the conservative party. former home secretary james cleverly has been dramatically knocked out of the race to become the next leader of the tories. and we can now speak with gb news political editor chris hope, who's still trying to make sense of it himself over there in westminster hall. chris, a variety of guests you've spoken to from team genenc you've spoken to from team generic team badenoch . danny

generic team badenoch. danny kruger, i thought, summed it up wonderfully. he said, it's inexplicable to try to understand tory mps. chris, try and help us to make sense of this . this. >> yeah. martin, welcome back to the historic westminster hall. this place has seen some political drama in its centuries of existence, but i wager not as much a surprise as the removal of james cleverly from the tory leadership contest. well, it feels that way anyway. i appreciate that it's maybe not the same as being trying a king for treason or whatever it might be, but anyway, it's a big deal here. and with andrew griffiths now, who's a spokesman for the kemi badenoch campaign, andrew, what happened? what has just happened? >> what's just happened is >> well, what's just happened is that has topped the members that kemi has topped the members of parliament ballot. so kemi is through to the members round. that's on top of having led all of the polls. independent polls of the polls. independent polls of members throughout. so she's in a very strong position. i feel for james in a very strong position. i feel forjames and all of the feel for james and all of the excellent colleagues who put themselves forward in this contest. but we members of parliament have now done our

job. we've put forward two excellent candidates, which i think kemi is the one that can really cut through. >> andrew, we know all that. come on, you and me talking now, how on earth has has james as kemi badenoch gone from 30 votes to 42 votes in one sitting? and how earth robert jenrick how on earth has robert jenrick who now gone who going backwards now gone forwards votes? and how forwards by ten votes? and how on leader gone out? >> e chris, you're you're >> well, chris, you're you're far in these ways far more versed in these ways than me. my view of life is you play than me. my view of life is you play what's in front of you, you manage what you can manage. and kemi has put on votes in each round. so each time somebody else has left, kemi got more support. that's what we've seen again today. topping the ballot. on top of topping the ballot of members. so we've had a really good contest here. i applaud all the colleagues who have put themselves forward, but i think kemi is now in a really strong position and she's always been the one that members wanted to see in that final. >> haven't you failed though, as a gang of 120 or so voting mps, the membership want a choice between left and right. you've given them a choice between two right wingers. that's not a

choice, is it? for the next leader? >> no, i don't accept that. the both both candidates are drawing support from across the party. kemi in particular has got support from every intake from david davis right to some of those people who've only been in parliament a few weeks. so she's got that ability to cut through. those are the sort of qualities, i think, that make her the candidate that labour fear the most. but now it's up to the party members up and down the country. they will have the final choice. members of final choice. we, members of parliament have put two candidates now in front of them. >> i mean, just on that isn't she a gaffe prone leader who will cause the party embarrassment? we saw problems over the remarks about maternity pay, over the remarks about maternity pay, in which you had to eventually clarify the position after three attempts. >> no, i don't think that's fair. i do think she speaks with an authenticity, and sometimes with a first principle that cuts through. but cutting through is an important attribute of being an important attribute of being a leader of the opposition, as is diagnosing what it is that we did wrong. >> and i don't think that the reason we were voted out by a historic defeat was because our

policies were wrong. >> people want low crime. they want our borders controlled. they want their economy growing. but we didn't deliver. so we do have to have some hard conversations as party about conversations as a party about how we relitigate the blairite legal settlement that we never got around to in power, how we break out of the gordon brown orthodoxy, things that really held us back from delivering what ordinary people wanted. kemi, i think is the one to do that. >> okay. andrew griffiths, thank you martin. andrew griffiths, a supporter of kemi badenoch. i'm just joining me now is a supporter for the team. robert jenrick mark francois, the chairman of the european research group of tory mps, known to many of our viewers as a regular guest on gb news, mark francois, you're smiling. what on earth has just happened? how how is these votes happen? i mean, civilians, people outside your world of tory mp politics are looking on aghast that your guy robert jenrick goes back to votes yesterday and then leaps forward. an extraordinary ten votes today to come second. >> hello again chopper.

>> hello again chopper. >> well, there was actually there was a gasp in the room. >> i was there. so you know rob is the comeback kid. >> some pundits, not you, but some of them are. >> you know, this morning had written him off and now he's in the final. so i've seen a few of these leadership contests , as these leadership contests, as have you. >> and i think we both know you can never take anything for granted. >> so rob is in the final and he's done brilliantly. and i think have given a think the mps have now given a really clear good choice to our voluntary party members. you have got two strong candidates. personally, i think rob is the stronger of the two, but our job was to give two credible candidates to the members. i believe we've done that and commiserations to james, who did run a good campaign, but they're both from the your wing of the party. >> they're both from the right of the party. they're not. what is a centrist got to? who who will they vote for? there are two right wing offers to be the next leader of the party. members might be worried. >> well, we're a centre right party chopper, but, you know, actually, robert has got support

across the if you like, the spectrum of the parliamentary party. so you've got john lamont and victoria atkins at one end. you've got maybe nick timothy in the middle, then you've got andrew rosindell, john hayes, myself, perhaps on the right. so the point is rob's support goes right across the party. and that's really important because whoever wins this has got to be a healer. they've got to bring a party that's had a difficult history back together . and i history back together. and i believe rob has sufficient breadth across the parliamentary party to do that with a voluntary party as well. >> i'm not looking towards a remain leave campaign. remain in echr or leave the echr depending on who wins. of course, your campaign, your guy robert jenrick wants to leave the echr. >> well, i think i think there will be an element. there will be an element of that. you're quite right. rob, from the word go has had a distinct position on the echr, which is he believes we should leave it . believes we should leave it. kemi ultimately, i think

believes we should remain in it. so there's a very clear choice. our job so there's a very clear choice. ourjob as mps was so there's a very clear choice. our job as mps was to so there's a very clear choice. ourjob as mps was to give so there's a very clear choice. our job as mps was to give the voluntary party the people who slog their guts out for six weeks to get us re—elected. a clear choice. i think we've performed our duty . performed our duty. >> you've also dropped down in generation. i mean, now it's going to be a shift in generational leadership for the tory party. will that allow you to project maybe a younger image? it might attract more younger voters, given the average age of the voter who turned tory at the last election was 63 years old? yes. >> and i think we definitely need to get younger voters back. and i think rob's the younger of the two candidates, too. >> well. mark francois, thanks for joining us. that's mark forjoining us. that's mark francois of course, a supporter of robert jenrick for the tory leadership, i think. joining me now is the man himself. martin, if you'll bear with me , robert if you'll bear with me, robert jenrick is here. robert jenrick . jenrick is here. robert jenrick. congratulations on getting to the final two. thank you very much, chris. you'll be facing some members. you'll be there at the event next thursday, debating with kemi badenoch to be the future leader of on gb

news. you'll be debating with with her to be the next leader of the party. how does it feel? >> i'm absolutely delighted to have got the trust and the confidence of so many parliamentary colleagues, and i think that they have respected resonated the message that i have been delivering for weeks now. over the course of this campaign trail, that the country needs to change and the party has to change as well. and i have a very specific plan as to how we do that, whether it's improving the nhs, getting growth, going again in our economy or yes , securing our economy or yes, securing our borders. i don't believe in platitudes . i want us to have a platitudes. i want us to have a serious plan now as to how we move forward and get this party back into gear for the good of our country . our country. >> you were written off this morning. you were going backwards in the votes yesterday. you've leapt forward by ten votes to come second by one to the winner, kemi badenoch . how the winner, kemi badenoch. how has that happened? >> i think in the privacy of the ballot box, my colleagues have voted for who they think is the best person to take this party forward, and i'm honoured that so many of them have put their faith in me. >> were any of your team lending

support to another candidate and they came back to you in the final ballot? is that what has happened? >> i don't think so. i think thatis >> i don't think so. i think that is in the conspiracy theory box. chris. it didn't happen. there were too few votes . you there were too few votes. you know, this was a very small electorate. we had to fight for every single vote. >> and is it right to characterise this election between the battle between you and kemi badenoch as leave or remain, battle to reprise the argument of the brexit battle over the echr? >> well, certainly on immigration, we do differ. i believe that we should leave the echr. in fact, i think it's the only way in which we will control our borders. we'll get foreign criminals out of this country, we'll get terror suspects out and we'll actually restore sovereignty to parliament. and also , we do parliament. and also, we do disagree on whether we should have a capped system of migration . we have got to have migration. we have got to have that democratic lock so that we can look the public in the eye this time and say immigration is actually going to come down. i have a very clear plan as to how we fix these problems with our borders and restore the trust and confidence of the british public. but it's not just about that. it's also about the health service, the economy, getting homes built for young people. i

want our party to be the serious party once again of british politics, with answers to the questions that the public really demand of us. >> and this leadership campaign now goes the full distance, because i think kevin badenoch was not willing to end it early. so the result on the 2nd of november? >> well, i don't i don't know that for certain. my position is very clear on that point. i think that it should be the next leader, whether that is myself or kemi. at the despatch box. taking the fight to rachel reeves in that very damaging budget that we expect at the end of the month. so i hope we can bnng of the month. so i hope we can bring this contest forward by a few days so that we can give the country the energetic, fresh opposition that we need. >> very. finally, what's your plan for tonight? >> a drink, there will be drinks involved, but i'm also going to an event in suffolk to meet members of the party. so the campaign doesn't stop. >> robert jenrick, thank you for joining us today on gb news robert jenrick there a surprise and delighted mp going forward to the final two against kevin badenoch as they try and find someone to take on sir keir starmer as leader of the opposition. >> thank you chris. so get

robert jenrick to put some numbers on the lottery by the way. get his numbers off him . i way. get his numbers off him. i think he's one heck of a lucky guy today. thank you very, very much there chris hope. and let's move on now to speak about this further with the former conservative mp daniel kaczynski, who has been backing kemi badenoch all along. daniel, welcome to the show. an astonishing chain of events. i mean, kemi badenoch putting on an astonishing 12 votes overnight. robert jenrick putting on ten. and it was james cleverly's turn to go backwards, losing two votes. that means that all of tom tugendhat's votes went into two right wing candidates, for want of a better phrase , not many people saw this phrase, not many people saw this coming. there was a late surge on kemi in the betting markets. you must be delighted i am i am absolutely delighted because i can see how dangerous and difficult this the situation that the united kingdom is facing, particularly after 4 or 5 years of a labour government under sir keir starmer. >> we now have we now have a

society where 22 million britons are taking benefits and the overall welfare bill for the united kingdom this year will be 258 billion. i recently wrote an article for gb news to say how concerned i am about the precarious financial situation that the united kingdom finds herself in, and i think that kemi has the guts, quite frankly, and the courage to take these very, very difficult decisions, whether it's taking on the trade unions or whether it's slimming down the state. so that we can actually afford these bills and not continue to rack up massive debts for future generations to have to grapple with. i see thatcher in her when i was first elected in 2005, i had the great privilege of meeting margaret thatcher. nobody has come anywhere near margaret thatcher in terms of balancing the books, repaying the national debt, taking on the

trade unions, making britain competitive and productive. and i really do see in my interactions with kemi, i see the same fire, the same courage and the same conviction that we had in margaret thatcher that a lot of people will be saying, okay, it's down to the final two. >> allison pearson in the telegraph said if cleverley wins, i'm to off reform. so the centrist candidate in james cleverly that's off the radar. you've got two right wingers, as i said, but the big question is this both of these candidates were in power for a substantial amount of time. the conservatives were in power for 14 years. all of those promises on immigration, on welfare, they weren't met. why should we trust either of these candidates this time around? >> well, there's no doubt in my mind that the elephant in the room is what they will say and do with regards to dealing with illegal migration in the english channel. >> but let's not forget one

thing ahead of the last general election, only 3% of the electorate believed that the rwanda deal was sustainable. appropriate and could work. unfortunately, the conservative party got itself too rather close, somewhat incestuously with rwanda, and so clearly there was great concern about about whether or not this country was the appropriate jurisdiction to send illegal migrants. i very much hope that we will pull out of the european court of human rights. and it's not correct. what mark francois says the position of kemi badenoch. she has not ruled out pulling out of the european court of human rights. we need to ensure that criminals and people who have come to this country illegally are deported, but they are deported to a jurisdiction that the british people have confidence in. australia is a classic. case in point, their deal with nauru, a tiny pacific nation in the in

the pacific ocean, a population of only 11,000 is working. it's proved to work the accommodation facilities in nauru are now empty because the criminal gangs are not targeting australia, because they know that the their customers, the illegal migrants , customers, the illegal migrants, will be shipped out to nauru, where there are no job opportunities. so this, this contract that australia continues to pay nauru for maintaining the buildings is absolutely brilliant because it acts as a deterrent . we've got acts as a deterrent. we've got to send illegal migrants abroad. it's just got to be to the right country and to not rwanda. >> okay. well i think the time for all the talking is over daniel kawczynski because that's the decision those candidates are going to have to make when they duke it out on gb news. of course, on october the 17th and exclusive head to head between kemi badenoch and robert jenrick. daniel, thank you very much for having having your company on the show. always a pleasure. now coming up first,

it was the winter fuel allowance and next, chancellor rachel reevesis and next, chancellor rachel reeves is eyeing up a £2 billion tax grab by lowering the tax free cap on pensions withdrawals. today's uncomfortable question is simply this does the labour party hate

welcome back. time is 525 but for even on martin daubney on gb news now, labour's war on pensioners shows no sign of abating after it emerged today that rachel reeves is considering a cut on the tax free lump sum that savers can withdraw from their personal pensions. the chancellor is reportedly considering the move following recommendations by two major think tanks, and hopes it could raise or plunder around £2 billion for the treasury.

however, there are concerns the policy could open the door to legal challenges and further damage the government's image. following the controversial cuts to the winter fuel allowance for 10 million british pensioners. and to discuss this further, i'm now joined by the founder of the pensioner votes .com and that's david anneliese. david, welcome to the show. absolute pleasure as always to have your company. you've been fighting hard for pensioners , finding the pensioners, finding the pensioners, finding the pensioners vote, speaking to thousands and thousands of pensioners across the land. when we spoke last time, it was about the desperation of the winter fuel allowance being cut and now there's a fresh misery. the pensions rate. tell us, david, do you think, quite simply, this government has got a problem with pensioners? >> well, martin, your question is does the labour government hate pensioners? and my initial answer is you could be forgiven for thinking so . labour is using for thinking so. labour is using the £22 billion black hole. the claimed billion pound black hole to tax anybody to oblivion. what

is your group to go for than pensioners who are vulnerable and defenceless. first of all they go for the winter fuel allowance . only labour mps voted allowance. only labour mps voted to scrap it. no mps from other parties voted to scrap it and now they are considering reducing the tax free lump sum you can take from your private pension. from the age of 55. now, as you probably know , now, as you probably know, martin, this was capped at £268,000 and the proposal is to reduce it to £100,000. so first of all, they went for poor pensioners, poor existing pensioners, poor existing pensioners and now they're talking about going for future pensioners. now some of your viewers may be saying, well this new proposal is only going to affect wealthy pensioners. well, i can tell you, martin, i was contacted by one of our members today actually asking for financial advice. and i don't give financial advice, but what he was saying was that he has a large mortgage. he's just coming up to retirement age, and his

plan was to take the tax free cash and to pay off his mortgage. and then he could live without any mortgage repayments and his monthly outgoings. and he says if this proposal is adopted, then he won't be able to retire. he'll have to keep on working . and as i say, i'm not working. and as i say, i'm not qualified to give financial advice. i wouldn't do so. i wouldn't advise for it or against it. but anybody coming up to a retirement age must be wondering, should i take my tax free cash now if i'm over 55? and the risk is that people will possibly start to make start to have a knee jerk reaction and make inappropriate, maybe financial decisions that affect their financial future. okay, so you know, we've got if you compare, say, pensioners and train drivers . train drivers are train drivers. train drivers are unionised. train drivers are can withdraw their labour. pensioners can't withdraw their laboun pensioners can't withdraw their labour. train drivers did withdraw their labour. the government didn't negotiate.

they capitulated. pensioners cannot withdraw their labour. so this is why i formed the pensioners. com so that existing and future pensioners can unite together to act in the interests of pensioners. and you know , of pensioners. and you know, martin, politics is all about choices . labour have chosen to choices. labour have chosen to spend , give £11.5 billion to spend, give £11.5 billion to overseas climate aid whilst raiding the accounts of uk taxpayers. so there is a perception, i feel in the country that there's more good being done abroad than there is being done abroad than there is being done abroad than there is being done at home, and you have to ask the question what are they going to go for next? will it be the means testing of the state pension itself? will the retirement age be raised to 70? will free prescriptions to the over 60s in england be? and you know will they end. and you know worst of all the most cynical amongst us are starting to feel that the upcoming assisted dying bill, which is possibly going to be rushed through parliament.

does anyone really think that a broken, overstressed nhs is going to be trusted to administer assisted dying? this is how we are feeling. i think this is how the country is feeling. >> martin and david, when we spoke last time, of course, we were referring to the fact that the labour party's own data from 2017, their own estimates 4000 pensioners would perish if the winter fuel allowance was cut . winter fuel allowance was cut. they did that anyway and we spoke at the time , david spoke at the time, david pinellas, about how there was a huge sense of outrage amongst pensioners getting politically motivated . old people vote, but motivated. old people vote, but they don't particularly vote for they don't particularly vote for the labour party. i think at the last general election, david was only around about 14%. are you getting contacted by any pensioners about how they voted and about how they're looking to change that vote? >> well, actually, when people join the website, one of the questions we ask on joining is, how did you vote at the last general election? a number of pensioners have written in to us saying that they've changed their minds about how they are going to vote. so although we

don't intend to influence, to try and persuade people to vote for a particular party, we present people with the facts and we let them choose how they vote. of course, we encourage them to register to vote, because actually 50% of our members and we now have a very large number who are not registered to vote. wow. and so we encourage people to become politically engaged . politically engaged. >> and do you think there could be a grey revolution? we've got a quick 30s. could there be a grey revolution of pensioners deciding to vote en masse? and as we saw before, potentially unseating some of these labour party mps who voted to kill their winter fuel allowance. >> i think there is going to be a grey backlash to use your your terminology. you started off by asking me, do i think, do i think labour hates pensioners? and i conclude by saying, well, having said all the things i've said, my conclusion is they do . said, my conclusion is they do. >> wow. astonishing strong words . >> wow. astonishing strong words. thank you very much for joining us as ever. and thank you,

especially david pinellas, the founder of the pensioner vote for sharing the anecdotes of your users. and let's make sure we keep this conversation going. thank you so much for your work. thanks. thank you for having me. lots more still to come between now and 5:00, including reaction to the news that immigration has fuelled the fastest rise in the uk's population in over five decades. we'll be asking just how consequential this could be. and do we need much tougher border controls? of course we do. when we actually get them. but first, here's your latest news headlines. and it's katie bowen . bowen. >> martin thank you and good afternoon to you. the time has just gone 4:30. i am katie bowen in the gb newsroom. now as you've been hearing this afternoon tory mps have now selected the final two candidates in the conservative leadership election with kemi badenoch and robert jenrick making it through to the members vote. kemi badenoch received 42 votes, robert jenrick picked up 41 and james cleverly received

37, meaning he has now been eliminated from the race. cleverly has thanked his colleagues, party members and the public for the support he received during his campaign. voting will open for conservative party members in an onune conservative party members in an online ballot tomorrow, closing online ballot tomorrow, closing on october the 31st. elsewhere in politics, sir keir starmer faced questions in the house of commons this lunchtime as prime minister's questions returned . minister's questions returned. the leader of the opposition, rishi sunak, probed sir keir on whether tax rises were on the honzon whether tax rises were on the horizon in the upcoming budget. the tory leader, in one of his last pmqs, questioned the prime minister on if a promise not to raise taxes in the chancellor's budget applies to national insurance contributions from both employers and employees. here's what the prime minister had to say. >> we made an absolute commitment in relation to not raising tax on working people. he, of course, was the experts expert on raising taxes . and expert on raising taxes. and what did we get in return for

it? we've got a broken economy, broken public services and a £22 billion black hole in the economy. we're here to stabilise the economy and we will do so to the economy and we will do so to the us. >> the biggest hurricane in a century is hitting florida today with american president joe biden warning it's a matter of life and death for residents. these are live pictures on your screens. we're bringing you from fort myers in the united states. around a million people living in the path of hurricane milton are being evacuated with concerns that lives are in dangen concerns that lives are in danger. a few moments ago, florida governor ron desantis held a press conference where he updated residents on the measures in place for their safety. >> there is high confidence that this hurricane is going to pack a major, major punch and do an awful lot of damage. the state is actively fulfilling over 1500 missions. we've delivered massive amounts of supplies, meals, water bottles , sandbags,

meals, water bottles, sandbags, tarps, generators to be able to help our local communities. >> well, those are your latest gb news headlines for now. i'm katie bowen, more from me in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> thank you katie. now i want to hear from you. get your views in gbnews.com/yoursay. two big questions can kemi badenoch or

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surging immigration has fuelled the quickest rise in britain's population for more than five decades. the number of uk residents hit 68.25 million mid last year, having added over 660,000 to its ranks in the year 12 months prior, marking an increase of 0.97%. now, the numbers produced by the office for national statistics have sparked fresh calls for much stricter border controls. and let's discuss this now with my good pal. and that's the research director at the centre for migration control, robert bates. robert, welcome to the show. let's start with the bafics show. let's start with the basics. more people are dying in britain than are born. so our indigenous population is on the wane . that's a fact. and yet the wane. that's a fact. and yet the numbers are going up. they've gone up by 1.2 million in 8 years. and that's solely down to net migration. we've got a

problem with our borders . we problem with our borders. we can't control them. tell us how we got to this position . we got to this position. >> we've got a huge problem with our borders and let's be perfectly clear about what these figures actually tell us. >> they tell us that the reason why there is a crisis in the housing market, the reason why people are struggling to get gp appointments, the reason people can't get their children into the school places that they want is because of immigration. we've had for far too long in this country an economic consensus that exists that allowing hundreds of thousands , over hundreds of thousands, over a million people to come into our country every year will only help grow the economy. if you look at the actual statistics on gdp per capita, they're in a huge, huge period of decline. we are all less well off as this as this experiment continues. >> and rob bates also, we covered just a couple of weeks ago, the fact that there is now £8 billion per year spent on benefits , unemployment benefits benefits, unemployment benefits to people born overseas. £8 billion. we just got rid of the winter fuel allowance , £1.4 winter fuel allowance, £1.4 billion. so the notion that open

borders, as we more or less have is bringing the economy up is for the birds. that isn't the case. we're getting poorer, we're getting more crowded and yet there seems to be no appetite to control it. do you have any faith that today's announcement, the conservative party have a new leader in either kemi badenoch or robert jenrick? is that a silver bullet to control this? i promise in a good fight. do you believe them ? good fight. do you believe them? >> so i was personally very relieved to see that james cleverly had fallen by the wayside in this competition. i think he tried to talk a tough game on immigration. he clearly claimed that his endeavours on reducing the net migration figures by a couple of tens of thousands were huge, huge seismic wins. there were nothing of the sort because we are still expected to have a mass migration into this uk, into the uk of over a million each year for the foreseeable future . for the foreseeable future. robert jenrick is, in my personal view, the candidate perhaps understands the issues posed by mass migration the most

out of many, many conservatives that we've seen for a long time. but i think that the trouble he will face is that people just don't trust the conservative party on this issue. and why would they? we've had 14 years now of absolute, absolute anarchy at our borders. >> another story that caught my eye today, rob. and i know it did yours. and that's there's been a development in the european union. in fact , 15 european union. in fact, 15 countries out of 27 member states have written an astonishing letter to brussels. rob demanding stricter immigration controls in the free schengen zone. the open borders loving european union. rob bates, tell us more about this . bates, tell us more about this. >> yeah, this is a horrid irony that as brexit britain drifts further leftward and, you know, the promises that were made dunng the promises that were made during the referendum to bring back control of our borders are looking less and less likely that the european union and european nations seem to be actually gripping this issue. and that's because as far as i can decipher, we have politicians that are actually

responding to the electorate. they're responding to the concerns germany , netherlands, concerns germany, netherlands, hungary, they all have politicians that seem to be recognising that the pressure thatis recognising that the pressure that is being posed by illegal migration is something that is causing huge, huge societal tension and huge, huge unease in the population at large. on our side of the channel, we seem to just have a political class that walk around european capitals, talk a good talk and then do absolutely nothing about it. and it's really, really miserable to see that as the europeans are getting their act together, we're going to be facing another five years of sheer incompetence. >> yeah. rob bates, this announcement today is 15 of the eu member states, led by the netherlands and austria, signed by the big nations. germany , by the big nations. germany, france, italy. they're proposing the notion that the police can arrest anybody in any of their member states who is there illegally, and then they will deport them to either their home nafion deport them to either their home nation or if that's not safe, to the european member state from whence they came. this is arrest

them and deport them . this is them and deport them. this is far right politics. this is further, far right than even nigel farage. and yet this is coming from the beloved eu member states. i wonder what the remainers have got to say about that. rob. well, it was always a misnomer that the remain campaign somehow were able to pitch the eu as this kind of liberal, fluffy , cosmopolitan entity. >> it's obviously an area with very, very different populations and a fluctuation in political temperament that i think we would find on on this side of the channel are quite startling and quite . well, in many ways it and quite. well, in many ways it opens up a lot more opportunities for them because they're clearly now having a conversation about immigration. they're clearly moving in a direction that a lot of the, a lot of the populations of europe would feel very comfortable with, whereas we are stuck with effectively five years of a labour government that don't know how to even begin on redressing this issue. and on the topic of deportations, you know, that's something that just simply doesn't come up in our

conversation. we have 1.2 million illegal migrants in this country, and yet no one seems to be setting out any agenda through which they could actually reverse this huge , actually reverse this huge, staggering criminal number. >> it's an astonishing state of affairs. rob bates, we've we voted for brexit to take back control of our borders. we didn't . and the european union didn't. and the european union member states are voting to take back control of their borders. and now we're the weak man of europe. what a state of affairs. thank you very much for joining us.rob thank you very much for joining us. rob bates . always a pleasure us. rob bates. always a pleasure to have your company now. coming up, we'll be live across the pond as millions of people in florida are rushing to leave their homes as hurricane milton races towards the state's west coast. as you can see, live pictures on your screen there from tampa, florida. we'll get all the very latest on this in just a on martin daubney on martin daubney on gb

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late tonight or early tomorrow morning. we are bracing and are prepared to receive a major hit. we're facing this with the seriousness it deserves, but also with the determination that we will get through this. >> well, it's do or die. it's big and we can now cross the cape coral in florida and speak with florida residents. brent gardner. brent, welcome to the show. you're live on gb news. can you tell us how close you are to the hurricane landing and what situation is like out there right now? it's kind of a fluid situation, but we think we're definitely inside the cone. >> it's going to land anywhere from where we are here to just north of us in sarasota. or potentially if something changed, it would return to its initial track back north in tampa. but it's hitting here. >> and brent, you seem safe now. we spoke to another resident yesterday, a guy called aaron pilkington. he was knuckling down in his in his flat. he said

his place was hurricane force five rated. what kind of property are you in? and do you expect there to be damage? are you going to be safe ? you going to be safe? >> yeah, i've we've evacuated. my >> yeah, i've we've evacuated. my home is actually on the water in the caloosahatchee, a place that's expecting to get a lot of storm surge. so we've evacuated east of i—75, which is a major artery here, about 20 miles or so from the gulf of mexico. so i am in a house that is highly rated, and we're hopeful that here we'll see very limited damage and that we won't see the type of storm surge. we'll see near the water. >> and brent, we just got some pictures on our screen now. some live pictures from fort myers of a poolside palm trees bending rather savagely. the rain lashing in heavy winds. so how long is this expected to go on for brent before you can go back to your original property and check out its status ? check out its status? >> yeah, we don't expect the actual eye of the storm to hit until sometime late this evening, at which point

following that, we'll start to see that really high storm surge. our hope and our expectation is that sometime tomorrow, once it's peaked, we'll have an opportunity to go back, assess damage and start repairs and remediation so it'll probably be tomorrow morning when the light comes out for sure . sure. >> and in terms of the numbers of people , i mean, we've got of people, i mean, we've got some live pictures now on the screen from sarasota in florida. extreme amounts of wind and rain lashing in off the coast there. how close is sarasota to where you are right now? brent ? you are right now? brent? >> that's about 50 or so miles north of us. but, you know, as far as this hurricane goes , far as this hurricane goes, given its width and the size of the wind field, we're in the same situation right now. so fortunately, it sounds like a lot of folks heeded the evacuation. the traffic certainly indicated that yesterday and the day before, but , you know, truthfully, but, you know, truthfully, wherever this hits, it's not going to just be where it comes in, but really a significant area to the north and south are going to feel substantial impacts similar to what we saw from ian just two years ago. >> and brent , joe biden said at

>> and brent, joe biden said at the time, to evacuate is now. it's do or die, you're knuckling down, you're staying put. what made you decide to stay? brent ? made you decide to stay? brent? >> i was fortunate we had a fairly good understanding of where we thought the initial safety area would be, and though the advice has been to evacuate, the advice has been to evacuate, the advice has been to evacuate, the advice is to move only far enough away so that that way you find your way to safety. and fortunately, i had a friend's mom who took us in and has a house that that should be relatively safe in a safe place out of an evacuation zone. and it's a substantial build. so it gave us an opportunity to stay as close by as possible . as close by as possible. >> and brent, we've got a quick 30s left. how much damage are you expecting on your property? are you expecting it to be quite hammered in? >> you know, we're we're hopeful. you know, again this this storm has taken a couple of different shifts in the last 12 to 24 hours. i do expect that there will be substantial flooding. and i'm hopeful that ultimately the wind field, which is newly expected, doesn't do

the same kind of damage that we saw during ian. so we're hopeful. but, you know, someone, either us or one of our neighbours will have a chance to lose everything tonight . tonight. >> okay. thank you very much. you stay safe out there. please. brent godwin, thank you so much for joining us and updating us forjoining us and updating us here on gb news. now, plenty more coming up in the final hour of the show, including all the reactions to the dramatic news james cleverly has been kicked out of the tory leadership race. i'm martin daubney on . gb news. okay. >> hello again. here's your gb news weather update coming to you from the met office for many of us, it has been a pretty wet few days and we are actually going to see a lot of that rain. those showers easing as we go through the next 24 hours or so. we do still have low pressure nearby, and we are still seeing some rain for the next couple of hours, but a lot of that rain is pushing its way southwards and breaking up most of the showers will be easing and clearing away as well as we go through this evening, with some clearer skies developing, particularly across parts of scotland , northern parts of scotland, northern ireland and later northern

england. overnight, all of that happening because we have a brisk northerly wind and that could lead to some blustery conditions for some of us in the north, where we get those clear skies, it is going to be a chilly night. could be a touch of frost in some places. still a bit milder though towards the south here it's actually going to be a bit of a damp start to the day, but further north away from areas exposed to that northerly wind, it's largely dry across central and southern scotland with some bright sunshine, but elsewhere, where we have that northerly wind, we are going to see some showers pushing through, some showers across parts of northern ireland first thing, and down the eastern side of england as well . eastern side of england as well. elsewhere, many places across central northern england starting the day largely fine. a few showers for parts of wales and, like i said, across the far south of england, a bit of a damp start, but that rain will clear away as we go through the day. and so for many, tomorrow is going to be a much drier and much brighter day than of late. a few showers inland, but the showers will be most frequent around areas exposed to that northerly wind and in that

northerly wind and in that northerly wind and in that northerly wind it is going to feel quite chilly, temperatures dropping compared to how high they have been recently. 13 or 14 celsius at best. towards the south, and feeling a bit colder than that in that wind . more than that in that wind. more fine weather to come for many of us as we go through the end of the day, but still some showers in some places, particularly towards the far north—west of scotland, a bit of a north south split as we go towards the weekend. wettest towards the north there could be some wintriness, some sleet or snow over the higher ground by. >> a chilly start will give way to a lovely warm afternoon. >> boxt heat sponsoi's sponsors of weather on gb

>> very good afternoon to you. it's 5:00 pm on this dramatic afternoon of politics and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster and all across the uk on today's show, a shock result in the tory leadership contest.

>> kemi badenoch, 42 votes james cleverly 37 votes and robert jenrick 41 votes. >> yeah, shock news this morning. the bookies favourite, former home secretary james cleverly, has been dramatically voted out and will not be leader of the conservative party. kemi badenoch will now face off against robert jenrick in the final two and the final is, of course, will take part in a live event on october the 17th, exclusively live on gb news and across the pond, millions of people in florida are rushing to leave their homes as hurricane milton races towards the state's west coast. as you can see, live pictures on your screen now from tampa, florida. the rain and the wind battering in to the coast on florida and this is what florida governor ron desantis had to say. a short while ago. >> we are bracing and are prepared to receive a major hit .

prepared to receive a major hit. >> once a show, always a pleasure to have your company so bracing for a major hit in florida. well, james cleverly got a major hit earlier on today in westminster. a hurricane pulled him out of the leadership race. nobody saw that coming. this morning. he was 16 to 1 on with the bookies to make it into the final two, but inexplicable alchemy, dark arts happened a shock. surprise, cleverly, is now out on his ear. the final two, kemi badenoch and robert jenrick , will go head to head on jenrick, will go head to head on october the 17th, live on gb news. let me know your thoughts on that surprising result. get in touch gbnews.com forward slash usa. now it's your headunes slash usa. now it's your headlines and here's katie bowen . headlines and here's katie bowen. >> martin thank you very much

and good afternoon to you. the time has just gone 5:00 i'm katie bowen in the gb newsroom. now as you've been hearing this afternoon tory mps have now selected the final two candidates in the conservative leadership election with kemi badenoch and robert jenrick making it through to the members vote. kemi badenoch received 42 votes, robert jenrick picked up 41 and james cleverly received 37, meaning he has now been eliminated from the race. in a tweet, cleverly has thanked his colleagues, party members and the public for the support he received during his campaign. voting will open for conservative party members in an onune conservative party members in an online ballot tomorrow, which will close on october the 31st. elsewhere in politics, sir keir starmer faced questions in the house of commons this lunchtime as prime minister's questions returned. the leader of the opposition, rishi sunak, probed sir keir on whether tax rises were on the horizon in the upcoming budget. the tory leader, in one of his last pmqs,

questioned the prime minister on if a promise not to raise taxes in the chancellor's budget appues in the chancellor's budget applies to national insurance contributions from both employers and employees. here's what the prime minister had to say . say. >> we made an absolute commitment in relation to not raising tax on working people. he, of course, was the experts expert on raising taxes. and what did we get in return for it? we've got a broken economy, a broken public services and a £22 billion black hole in the economy. we're here to stabilise the economy , and we will do so the economy, and we will do so to the us. >> the biggest hurricane in a century is now hitting florida, with american president joe biden warning it's a matter of life and death for residents. if you're watching on television, these are live pictures. we are bringing you from fort myers in the united states, where the hurricane is now impacting around a million people living in the path of hurricane milton are being evacuated with concerns that lives are in

dangen concerns that lives are in danger. a short while ago, florida governor ron desantis held a press conference where he updated residents on the measures in place for their safety . safety. >> there is high confidence that this hurricane is going to pack a major, major punch and do an awful lot of damage. the state is actively fulfilling over 1500 missions. we've delivered massive amounts of supplies, meals, water bottles, sandbags, tarps, generators to be able to help our local communities , help our local communities, survivors of accidents across london's transport network have today accused transport for london of being rotten to its core over a failure to address safety issues on trains and buses across the city. >> campaigner sarah de lagarde, who lost her right arm and leg after being run over by two trains in 2022, warned mayor sadiq khan that if change does not happen, someone else could be seriously injured or killed. >> we believe that tfl is

failing to meet its most fundamental obligation to ensure the safe transit of commuters . the safe transit of commuters. our findings indicate that the safety issues within tfl are not merely isolated incidents, but are indicative of systemic and institutional failings stemming from the incompetence at the leadership level. >> and finally , rebekah vardy >> and finally, rebekah vardy has been ordered to pay coleen rooney a further £100,000 following their high profile wagatha christie libel battle. mrs. vardy sued mrs. rooney for libel but lost the high court legal action in 2022. mrs. rooney had earlier accused mrs. vardy of leaking her private information to the press, with wednesday marking the fifth anniversary of the viral social media post at the heart of the dispute . those are your latest dispute. those are your latest gb news headlines for now i'm katie bowen. more from me in half an hour for the very latest

gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> thank you katie. now a shock result in the race to become the next leader of the conservative party. former home secretary james cleverly has been sensationally knocked out of the race to become the next leader of the tories. and let's remind ourselves of the moment that that dramatic result was announced . announced. >> kemi badenoch , 42 votes. >> kemi badenoch, 42 votes. james cleverly, 37 votes. and robert jenrick 41 votes. so, as a result of that, that ballot, james cleverly is eliminated from the contest and kemi badenoch and robert jenrick now go forward to the ballot of

members . members. >> well, that result took a lot of people by surprise in the last hour. james cleverly has taken to social media to thank all of those who supported him . all of those who supported him. >> we didn't do it. i didn't make it through and that is massively disappointing for me. but one of the things that has really lifted my spirits is how many people have given me and the team so much support. so i want to say a huge thank you to you all. could not have done any of this without you. makes me proud to be a conservative. makes me proud that we can pull together as a team. thank you, thank you, thank you . thank you, thank you. >> well, we can now speak with gb news political editor chris hope, who's live with us now from the westminster hall there, chris, welcome back to the show. so we have at the moment, chris, a hurricane ripping through florida, a political tornado

pred florida, a political tornado ripped through westminster. who saw this coming? nobody saw this coming this morning. saw this coming? nobody saw this coming this morning . james coming this morning. james cleverly was 16 to 1 on to make the final two a day of high drama. have you made any sense of it for us yet ? of it for us yet? >> no. i think it's very hard to understand what quite happened. 120 tory mps voted . let's remind 120 tory mps voted. let's remind our viewers and listeners what happened yesterday . you saw happened yesterday. you saw their robert jenrick slipping back to 31 mps from 33 kemi badenoch gaining two to 20 to 30 and james cleverly surging forward from 21 to 39, up 18 votes. so that looked like the direction of travel many people thought, mps told me this, that robert jenrick was trending backwards . kemi badenoch had a backwards. kemi badenoch had a degree of momentum. in fact, robert jenrick was on gb news today , telling us on our today, telling us on our breakfast programme that it looked like you saw james cleverly had had got there into the final two and mps had to choose between robert jenrick

and kemi badenoch. so even robert jenrick himself was effectively in a way conceding that one of the two places had gone to james cleverly and that has completely been overturned. it looks like possibly that james cleverly supporters may have got a bit cocky and felt that they can lend. voters lend support to either jenrick or badenoch to stop one of those two getting through, and managed to let both those through on on the by the by mistake killing off james cleverly. that is possible. it seems extraordinary. no one can quite understand it. for his part , understand it. for his part, james cleverly was at a book launch last night with robert with boris johnson. i photographed him with him. it looked like, you know, to an extent it was not definitely was not boris johnson saying, support this man. but it wouldn't have wouldn't have hurt him. you'd have thought amongst the base to see boris johnson in the base to see boris johnson in the same room as james cleverly at the same time robert jenrick was hosting an event. he had a dnnks

was hosting an event. he had a drinks party. he phoned dozens of tory mps last night to convince them to come. come oven convince them to come. come over. it seems to have worked, he surged in these numbers by ten points, ten mps to 41. and guess what? kemi badenoch has gone from third to winning with 42. it's extraordinary. it's the biggest surprise in tory politics, i think, and i was there since boris johnson announced shortly after the 2016 eu referendum that he was pulling out of the leadership race. that was a similar gasp that you heard in the in the committee room 14 just now, when you played out that result being read out by bob blackman to when that announcement was made in rusi up at 80 whitehall and i was in the room for that and that was the moment. but i can't think of a more dramatic moment in conservative party politics in conservative party politics in the past. whatever it is, eight years until this moment now, it means that the two surviving candidates, miss badenoch and mrjenrick, will duke it out on gb news on october. >> the 17th. in that exclusive head to head it now means,

chris, that the leader of the party will be on the political right. the centrist candidate , right. the centrist candidate, mr cleverly. he's now bitten the dust. so what will that mean for the future direction of the party? what can we expect to see from them in terms of policy direction, and how might that land with a lot of tory mps out there in the shires who don't agree with their hard line on things like immigration and perhaps even leaving the echr . perhaps even leaving the echr. >> so there are some takeaways from this. martin. we are now dropping down a generation to a younger leader taking on a labour leader in his 60s. i think they are in their early 40s. robert jenrick and kevin badenoch. that's 20 year age gap.so badenoch. that's 20 year age gap. so the tory party can look more like the future of the country rather than older people. and that's a big issue for the party given the average age of a tory voter converting from a labour supporter was 63. in last month's election. there's that i think you are

seeing a lurch to the right in the leadership. the leader , it the leadership. the leader, it looks like, will be more in tune, i think, with the electorate choosing that individual. there's around 140,000 or so conservative members . they will now be more members. they will now be more in tune with their with their leader. but the conversely, it looks like this new leader may be out of tune with a lot of the of the moderate base of the tory party here and how that plays out, i do not know, but it certainly looks like this kind ofidea certainly looks like this kind of idea that you have this, these, these leaders who aren't really in tune with them, with their the members, we saw that, didn't we, when rishi sunak was, was appointed as leader against without any vote by by party members and of course liz truss was pushed out by her own mps and boris johnson lost confidence of his mps. so you're aligning that together , but you aligning that together, but you may have other problems. it also looks like we are faced with a leadership battle, a leave and remain battle , if you like, of remain battle, if you like, of the european convention on human rights. robert jenrick told us on gb news. he will on day one

start pushing for an idea on how to leave the echr if he gets elected prime minister in 2028 2029. we have not got that commitment yet from kemi badenoch and we are yet to hear from kemi badenoch, which she is recording a clip with her reaction to this extraordinary moment in tory politics today. we have, of course, heard from robert jenrick an hour ago of high drama and massive surprises in westminster. >> thank you very much, chris hope for being there for us and trying to help us make sense of the drama. thank you. i can now speak with the welsh conservative member of the senate, james evans, who is backing robert jenrick . welcome backing robert jenrick. welcome to the show, james. you got to be delighted. your man yesterday was absolutely the wheels were coming off his campaign. somehow he put 12 votes on overnight, so he put 12 votes on overnight, so he put 12 votes on overnight, so he put ten votes on overnight and came in at 41. if i were you buy a lottery ticket, mate. >> well, i should go out and buy

a lottery ticket now. >> i'm very, very pleased. >> i'm very, very pleased. >> you know, robert's always come across. he's got a clear set of policies , not warm words set of policies, not warm words of how he's going to change the conservative party, how he wants to change the country. i'm just so pleased that robert's got over the line here. polling has showed that robert is the candidate to unite all sides of the party to win back those millions of voters that we lost to to reform, win back liberal democrat voters. i just can't wait to get forward to look at working with robert now to get members out to support him. it's going to be a long, a long week till the ballots come out. but we're all looking forward to the challenge of getting robert elected as the next leader of the conservative party and james as a welsh conservative. >> you've got to be breathing a sigh of relief because a lot of people thinking if the party was going to go towards the centre with with someone like mr cleverly at the helm, that could spell trouble for people like yourself in wales, where reform party are expected to make gains. but can we see the conservative party actually deliver on the tough talk? 14 years in power, all the promises

made then none of them were delivered, i think, is rob roberts got the right diagnosis of how to put the party right. >> he understands where we went wrong. the voters. i speak to, you know, when i was out during the general election in the new constituency, which is brecon, radnor country, especially in that country area, people didn't think that we delivered for the hard working people of this country, regard to tax rather than jobs and everything else. but robert has the right policies to address that . and at policies to address that. and at the senate election, it's going to be very, very important that we have a leader who can take the fight to reform that can put reform to bed. you know, we need to be the party unapologetically. the party that supports hard working people, those people who pay their taxes to fund our public services, that fund the nhs, fund our education system. we need to be on their side. we're the union for the working people. they don't have no lobby group supporting them, they said. we are the party that supports the working people and i think if we can get that message across with

a strong leader in westminster, and i sincerely hope that that's robert jenrick, because i think robert jenrick, because i think robert will be first and foremost supporting us here to get labour out of power. robert gets wales i worked with him when i was a councillor. you know, i have regular conversations with him about the failings that welsh labour are doing and i know he's going to raise a lot of that going forward. just, you know, what labour have done to wales here after 25 years in power, james, at the start of this campaign, robert jenrick said he wanted to retire nigel farage. >> he wanted to make reform redundant. the big question is, has robert jenrick started to wear the clothes of nigel farage? talk like nigel farage, act like nigel nigel farage to try and see reform off. but i put it to you again when he was the immigration minister, when the immigration minister, when the tory party were in power, you talked tough and all of those things then and didn't deliver. what's going to be different this time around ? different this time around? >> robert jenrick is robert jenrick. he is not nigel farage. i don't think anybody could be nigel farage, but robert's

record in the home office speaks for itself. he got immigration down. robert wanted to be tougher on immigration. on leaving the echr the current, the cabinet that was there at the cabinet that was there at the time didn't want to back robert. robert left government because robert is principled. robert knew that. that's what we had to do to win back voters, to regain the trust of people who didn't trust us anymore on immigration and that's why one of the key things why i support robert is because he's got principles. he stands up for what he believes. he left government because the cabinet wouldn't back him. what he thought was right to address immigration. now, i think robert's got the right solutions to the problem. i said every member across the conservative party needs to back robert jenrick, because back in robert jenrick, because back in robert jenrick will get us to success in the senate elections. the local government elections, and i believe he'll return us to power at the next general election as well. >> okay. well, we had net 785,000 immigration when your man was the immigration minister. but let's forget that for one day and enjoy your champagne tonight. james evans, thank you very much for joining

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malachy steenson, an independent dubun malachy steenson, an independent dublin councillor, solicitor and a criminologist who became the founder of the working class. ireland is full movement and the man that some are even dubbing ireland's nigel farage. i'm delighted to say that malachy now joins me in the studio here in westminster. malachy, welcome to the show. >> thank you martin, and thanks to gb news for actually covering this issue in a way that the irish media refuses to do. i mean, i haven't been on any mainstream tv or radio programme in the irish republic since november 2022, when this all kicked off. >> isn't that astonishing in itself? but just give people a flavour here on the mainland about the political earthquake that's happened in in ireland and what's been driving it. and give us a scale, if you for can, starters, of the of the scale of the immigration and the political backlash. >> well, if you take ireland 15 to 20 years ago, the population was 3.5 million. now it's 5.5

million. we haven't done as much as build one hospital or one school in that amount of time. we have a huge housing shortage and this is where the real pressure comes with 14,000 people homeless in emergency accommodation, with many more tens of thousands of people who are still living in their mother's box rooms, who can't move out of their homes and create a life for themselves . create a life for themselves. and that brought huge pressure on on the system . but the on on the system. but the political class, to give you a small example, when we proposed building modular homes to solve our indigenous housing problem, we were told, oh, you can't do that now for ukrainians and for asylum seekers , the government asylum seekers, the government is now building modular homes, which they had costed at 220,000, which now, for some reason , which is not uncommon in reason, which is not uncommon in ireland, have cost 450,000 each. and i mean it seems that, you know, the government asked you to provide them with something, you send them a cost and then they just double or treble it. and in fact, we have a you may have heard about this. there's a children's hospital being built

in dublin , started off at less in dublin, started off at less than 100 million or it's now 2.5 billion. >> and even today we have heard that the contractor costed some work at 200,000. >> well, put in a bill and as far as i know received it for 25 million. that just beggars belief with no infrastructure and let's talk, if we can, about the incident that brought a lot of this to attention . of this to attention. >> and there was a riot in dubun >> and there was a riot in dublin last november that was precipitated, of course, by a stabbing, a stabbing of some children and their teacher. vehicles were set alight and of course the media. we can see pictures of that on our screen now . and of course, malachy, the now. and of course, malachy, the media will be no surprise to you, leapt on this as evidence of a country gripped by the far right, by racism , by fascism. right, by racism, by fascism. even. we've heard all of this before, and yet in ireland you seem to have a particularly hostile media. they seem to have

completely fallen into line. maliki with the theory that immigration can only be a good thing. and as a consequence, you've seen hundreds and hundreds of peaceful protests before anything like this happened. before anything like this happened . maliki, are people happened. maliki, are people saying enough is enough ? ireland saying enough is enough? ireland is full, and yet nobody was listened to ? why not? listened to? why not? >> well, i suppose the initial protest began in eastern ireland in november 22, almost a year before the particular incident and the riots in parnell street. there had been 250, according to the guardian's figures, 250 protests. almost every one of them had been peaceful. the only time that there was trouble at them was in fact, when the left attacked protests and in fact , attacked protests and in fact, on one of our protests, they drove a car into a rally and injured a man and, you know, if you look at what happened in parnell street in november 2023, almost a year ago , three young almost a year ago, three young children were stabbed coming out of a of a creche or a

playschool. day—care worker, the girl collecting them was stabbed. that girl will never be the same again. two of the children were thankfully recovered . mainly the other recovered. mainly the other child will never be the same again and will never have any quality of life . and the state's quality of life. and the state's reaction to that and the police visited some of the witnesses to that case at that incident and told them not to speak about it because they would be then responsible for trouble and violence on the streets. i would say that the pent up anger in dubun say that the pent up anger in dublin city, which is a tinderbox at the best of times , tinderbox at the best of times, if somebody comes along, whether they're a non—national or not, and stabs three kids coming out walking down the street, there will be trouble. and i would suggest that any main city in england, wales , scotland or england, wales, scotland or anywhere else in europe , the anywhere else in europe, the same reaction would happen. >> we saw a similar reaction, of course, in southport. nobody is condoning riots or anything. i

know you don't. you know this isn't that you've had hundreds, as you say, of peaceful protests. let's talk now. malachy, about the political movement. there is a movement going on. you've been elected in dublin. we've got big elections coming up. can the island is full? can the working class movement that you're spearheading get seats and affect actual real political change in ireland? >> well, and the local elections in june there were three of us elected to dublin city council of like mind. before that we didn't have anybody . we probably didn't have anybody. we probably a dozen councillors around the country, which is a huge breakthrough. we expect to have a general election on the 7th or the 22nd of november, you know, and this government keeps talking about misinformation and lies. they're continually telling us we won't have an election until next year. and the dogs in the street know that there will be an election this yeah there will be an election this year. we've beaten them by already in june by getting a number of councillors elected. we beat them in two referendums earlier in the year. we got rid of leo varadkar, who's gone because of the because of the groundswell of opinion against immigration. and he's replaced

with a total idiot, simon harrison. you think your politicians are bad? do you want to come over and see ours ? but to come over and see ours? but the problem with the political class here is that they're all indoctrinated with woke liberalism. they've all come through the universities with the exception of harris. i have to say , and they all think the to say, and they all think the same and speak the same. and anybody who disagrees with the orthodoxy or with what the state says you're supposed to believe is somehow far right. and, you know, i'm saying that migration is leading to a problem with housing. i'm saying that since november 2022, the taoiseach , november 2022, the taoiseach, the prime minister, is now saying the same thing. so is he far right? and we do know that the blueshirts fina gael were the blueshirts fina gael were the original fascists and brownshirts in ireland when they were created . but the other were created. but the other problem, i mean, you talk about the riots and law and order. there is no law and order in dubun there is no law and order in dublin or in any major town. and city in ireland. we have a huge drugs crisis. we've now we have drugs crisis. we've now we have drug addicts fighting amongst themselves and we have a political class and a we have

ngos, 33,000 ngos who are anything but an ngo . they get anything but an ngo. they get 6.5 billion to lecturers and the government just follows what they say. just as the opposition people did have some faith in provisional sinn fein, that they would be some kind of an opposition and that they were on track to go into government. that ship has now sailed because the people see, particularly in working class communities, people see themselves as having been abandoned by the provisionals. and indeed one of their tds. last night on radio said that the people's mistrust of the government was because of the far right. now, i would only hope that the far right would , hope that the far right would, if they exist, would have that much influence. but the mistrust of the government is because of the government's continual lies and the government's continual rejection of the people's wishes. >> okay, malachy steenson, thank you for coming to the mainland and talking to us here @gbnews. and of course, we'll keep a close eye on all those elections as they emerge later this year.

thank you for your time, sir. always appreciate it. thank you . always appreciate it. thank you. now, lots more still to come between now and 6:00 and prepare to be terrified because later in the show, i'll be joined by emma parsons reid, who calls herself britain's meanest granny. she keeps her five grandkids in check with a whistle and even deliberately makes them cry to stop them becoming snowflakes. i think i'm going to really, really like her. but first, here's your headlines with katie bowen. >> martin. thank you. very good afternoon to you. the time has just gone 5:30. i'm katie bowen in the gb newsroom. as you've been hearing tory mps have now selected the final two candidates in the conservative leadership election , with kemi leadership election, with kemi badenoch and robert jenrick making it through to the members vote. kemi badenoch received 42 votes, robert jenrick picked up 41 and james cleverly received 37, meaning he has now been eliminated from the race. cleverly has thanked his colleagues , party members and

colleagues, party members and the public for the support he received during his campaign. in a tweet. voting will open for conservative party members in an onune conservative party members in an online ballot tomorrow , closing online ballot tomorrow, closing online ballot tomorrow, closing on the 31st of october, and you can watch the final two battle it out in a live event exclusively here on gb news on the 17th of october. elsewhere in politics, sir keir starmer faced questions in the house of commons this lunchtime as prime minister's questions returned. the leader of the opposition, rishi sunak, probed sir keir on whether tax rises were on the honzon whether tax rises were on the horizon in the upcoming budget . horizon in the upcoming budget. the tory leader, in one of his last pmqs, questioned the prime minister on if a promise not to raise taxes in the chancellor's budget applies to national insurance contributions from both employers and employees . both employers and employees. here's what the prime minister had to say. >> we made an absolute commitment in relation to not raising tax on working people. he, of course , was the experts he, of course, was the experts expert on raising taxes. and what did we get in return for

it? we've got a broken economy, broken public services, and a £22 billion black hole in the economy . we're here to stabilise economy. we're here to stabilise the economy and we will do so to the economy and we will do so to the us. >> the biggest hurricane in a century is hitting florida today , century is hitting florida today, with american president joe biden warning it's a matter of life and death for residents. if you're watching on television, these are live pictures we're bringing you from fort myers in the united states. around a million people living in the path of hurricane milton are being evacuated with concerns that lives are in danger. a short while ago, florida governor ron desantis held a press conference where he updated residents on the measures in place for their safety. >> there is high confidence that this hurricane is going to pack a major, major punch and do an awful lot of damage. the state is actively fulfilling over 1500 missions. we've delivered massive amounts of supplies, meals, water bottles, sandbags, tarps, generators to be able to

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gbnews.com forward slash alerts. >> okay stand by. because joining me now is bev turner who is in for dewbs& co tonight. 617 dewbs& co bev turner. welcome to the show . what's on your menu? the show. what's on your menu? >> thank you martin. well, we are going to be reflecting on this shock result in the conservative leadership race. obviously now we've got these two final contenders. kemi badenoch robert jenrick, the party will vote on the party members, of course. are they the people to take the conservatives into the future? take the fight to starmer. we're going to be talking about this population growth figures as well. more deaths than births in the uk . deaths than births in the uk. for the first time, we're relying heavily on migration to keep our population afloat. or are we just frankly too full? you go out on the roads anywhere in this country. it feels like there are just too many people here at the moment. what's it going to be talking, martin, about sex education? we've got two panellists who feel very differently about what should be on the curriculum at schools, and there's a report out to say that we're letting down our kids. we're not informing them properly or telling them about the right sorts of things, particularly when it comes to women's health and climate

change. is it a threat to our national security? of course, that's how it's been sold to us now. the eco agenda, we're being told it's not only just to save the planet, it's to keep us safe. is that all a load of nonsense? that and a lot more between 6 and 7. >> a magnificent menu . of >> a magnificent menu. of course, covid was going to kill us all. now it's the climate as even us all. now it's the climate as ever. superb stuff coming up. bev turner standing in for dewbs& co. 617. marvellous. thank you. now, if you wanna get in touch with me here @gbnews, simply go to gbnews.com/yoursay loads already. i'll make sure to read out the best the end of the i'm martin daubney on gb

welcome back your time is 541. i'm martin daubney on gb news now. the number of confirmed gas thefts across england , wales and thefts across england, wales and scotland has rocketed by over 25% last year. now in most

cases, gas theft involves either bypassing the gas metre, leaving the gas supply unregulated and uncharged, or even tampering with the gas metre. so an incorrect amount of gas is recorded. now, as things stand, gas fraud carries a maximum penalty of five years in nick or a fine of up to two grand. this is something that really gets my goat. and now we can speak with the chief operating officer at cadent, howard foster. howard, welcome to the show. i'll call you the gas man. if i could . you the gas man. if i could. howard. howard, this is something that really annoys me . something that really annoys me. and people move in to properties. they bypass the gas. my properties. they bypass the gas. my mate barber sean, they plugged into his gas with a plastic pipe , siphoning his gas plastic pipe, siphoning his gas off. how prevalent is this and how these con men are getting around it ? around it? >> yeah. thanks, martin. i mean, the first point to make is stealing gas is dangerous. it puts lives at risk . i have, you puts lives at risk. i have, you know, 5000 engineers who are

sadly, on occasions do attend properties for which tampering with the metre and bypassing the meat as a resulted in, you know, a danger to people within that property. and you know , property. and you know, sometimes with serious consequences and, you know, gas getting into the building and an explosion occurring. so it's not something we ever want to see. thankfully, it is a relatively rare activity. if you look at the sort of broader we have 11 million customers at the end of our network, but it is something we have seen an increase in over the last, over the last 12 months or so as you've, as you've described. >> and howard, in terms of the methodology, what people are just like in the old days, what you put a magnet on your leccy metre to stop the wheel going round, how are people tampering with metres to siphon off gas? >> yeah, the most prevalent. i think you said it in your introduction, martin is actually a by bypass of the of the metre.

so it's attaching a pipe to the, to to the the pipe that connects under your metre. and then bypassing the metre and obviously the concern there is our engineers are highly experienced at undertaking activities and working on gas appliances and gas pipe work. you know, most people aren't . you know, most people aren't. and it's what we do discover is as we attend there you see leakage. you see poor poorly installed notwithstanding the fact it's theft and it's illegal. it's the unsafe nature in which some of those bypasses are installed. and that's where the that's where the risk occui's. >> occurs. >> and now there's no surprise this is happening. most in big cities the hotspots west midlands, birmingham, 660, coventry 135. 372. in london, what kind of properties are

doing this? what is this like? slum landlords who are just trying to game the system ? is trying to game the system? is there a pattern to the rag bags who are doing this? >> you know there isn't. i think we're finding it much more broad based. there isn't anything from as i said, it's quite small numbers. so in reality it's a, it's a relatively broad, broad church. martin. the key thing and i guess what the purpose of wanting to really send this message today that, you know, steel and glass will put people's lives at risk is, is really to ask everyone to be vigilant. it's in it's in all towns and cities and it is potentially in your street . so potentially in your street. so there is an opportunity to report this. there's a there's an anonymous telephone number for which , if you believe you for which, if you believe you have observed or are aware of people tampering with the metre and or bypassing the metre, you can you can contact the number which is stay energy safe, which

is our 800 0232777. that's an anonymous an anonymous line. and we're encouraging people to contact that number if they are suspicious because of how foster and you know, you can always see those yellow pipes just mysteriously crop up where people are siphoning off. >> and of course, if there's a squat, people are just putting cables across and nicking the electric as well. it's got to be stamped out. thank you for your work. howard foster, the chief operating officer at cadent. thank you very much. we've got to turn off the supply to you now, i'm afraid. now, coming up in just a moment. you're going to be terrified as i'll be joined by emma parsons. reid , joined by emma parsons. reid, who's calling herself britain's meanest granny. i think i'm going to like her a lot. you won't want to miss it. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel

welcome back. it's approaching 10 to 6. i'm martin daubney on

gb news now. emma parsons reid has become known as britain's meanest granny, and she employs a strict, no nonsense approach to raising her five granddaughters. hughes's novel methods like a military style whistle system and withholds treats to enforce discipline, believing tough love prepares them for life's challenges. now , them for life's challenges. now, despite even making her grandchildren cry, emma is totally unrepentant, arguing that kids need to toughen up to avoid what's becoming. she calls as snowflakes now her approach. her approach has sparked some debate, with some applauding her discipline, while others are criticising her harsh methods. and i can now speak with britain's meanest nanny, emma parsons. read emma, welcome to the show. now i've got to say i saw your story this morning. i think you're absolutely bang on. you're doing the right thing. a lot of people now are just to

softly, softly tell us your methods and tell us how it works for you . for you. >> well, i was strictly brought up. so, you know, there were times i didn't like that. but i appreciate now as an adult that i can hold my own in society. so i've always been able to talk to anybody of all ages. i would like to think i'm very polite, obviously with my daughter, i was very strict with her. i was the breadwinner, so i didn't i didn't have time to mess around really. i was out at work and then i'd come home and she was my second job, and she knows i didn't have to raise my voice with her. she knew a look was all it took, and she could see that look now. oh yes. yes . that look now. oh yes. yes. >> so obviously i can see that look now . look now. >> yeah. oh, yes. i hope you've been good today, martin. >> so tell us, emma, about things like blowing whistles and making them right. grammatically perfect apology letters. if they mess up, i love it. >> yeah. i mean , obviously if

>> yeah. i mean, obviously if they're rude to me and obviously they're, you know, especially they're, you know, especially the teenagers, they're getting to that stage where they are going to answer back. >> and, you know, i'm prepared for that, but i won't speak to them. i send them to coventry and that's where they stay. and they know. and the older one who's 17, you know, she is you know, she really fights my, my discipline. but i won't speak to for her weeks and weeks. and she knows unless she sort of writes to me and apology, i will accept an email. you know, i won't . an email. you know, i won't. just doesn't have to be pen and papen just doesn't have to be pen and paper, but i expect an apology . paper, but i expect an apology. and she knows i won't budge until i have that. so she's now passing on to the children. the younger ones just just apologise because noone will do this for weeks and weeks and weeks and you won't get a treat. you won't get taken out anywhere. you know , get taken out anywhere. you know, i'm quite. i'm a very loving grandmother as well. i'm not all just horrible, otherwise they wouldn't want to see me at all. >> but but i enjoy. go on. >> but but i enjoy. go on. >> so emma, my favourite bit. i

mean, i can see why they listen to you. by the way , because i'm to you. by the way, because i'm bristling myself . so. so when bristling myself. so. so when you blow your whistle, the thing i like about this. apparently they stand in a line. oh, here we go. go on, give us a blast. go on, give us a blast. >> it's giving the cat a fright. >> it's giving the cat a fright. >> yeah! yes! yeah! stand up ! >> yeah! yes! yeah! stand up! martin! stand up. yeah, well, it's working right now. >> the sound of music, you know where they all line up anyway? look, let's. >> let's carry on. so. so what i'm saying is people respond to your tough love your fire granddaughters and your methods work. >> they do. they. i can take them anywhere. they are very polite. all their teachers from from the eight year old up to 17 say that they they really well behaved. they know how to toe the line. and i mean, obviously with me and their parents, sometimes they'll try it on. but i am very strict and i think parents these days, because they're working full time, they don't have time to be on it all the time. and that's where i

come in, because i have the time now to discipline them and to make sure that they're not deck chairs that fold at the first sign of weight. you know, it's a tough world out there and they're all, you know, they're all that. we hate this. we can't cope with that or we're having the vapours. my lot won't be like that. my lot will rule the world. >> and emma, before before you 90, >> and emma, before before you go, could i ask you one final question? are you available for hire? can i get you to come round and sort my kids out? >> oh , yes. i think i should >> oh, yes. i think i should have my own tv programme. you know, my whistle. keep them all in line. oh, yeah. i can train any child, any child . any child, any child. >> excellent. so thank you very, very much. you know , a lot of very much. you know, a lot of people, you sparked a huge debate. i think this kind of discipline is sadly missing in britain. i think you're absolutely right. kids are mollycoddle. they're wrapped in cotton wool. that everyone gets a rosette. everyone's told they're special, that doesn't work. perhaps the emma parsons reid method . a bit of tough reid method. a bit of tough love. that's what we need. an absolute pleasure to have you on the show. you weren't at all terrifying . honest. thank you terrifying. honest. thank you

very much, emma. that's all for today. but please don't go anywhere because up next is dewbs& co. tonight it's with bev turner full reaction to that amazing result today. james cleverly sensationally knocked out of the tory leadership race, leaving kemi badenoch and robert jenrick to fight it out. who wins? do you care? thanks for joining me. i'll be back tomorrow, three till six. now it's your weather and here's alex burka. >> there will be a light breeze in the morning leading to a warm front . boxt heat pumps sponsors front. boxt heat pumps sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello again. here's your gb news weather update coming to you from the met office for many of us, it has been a pretty wet few days and we are actually going to see a lot of that rain. those showers easing as we go through the next 24 hours or so. we do still have low pressure nearby, and we are still seeing some rain for the next couple of hours. but a lot of that rain is pushing its way southwards and

breaking up most of the showers will be easing and clearing away as well as we go through this evening, with some clearer skies developing, particularly across parts of scotland, northern ireland and later northern england overnight. all of that happening because we have a brisk northerly wind and that could lead to some blustery conditions for some of us in the north, where we get those clear skies. it is going to be a chilly night. could be a touch of frost in some places. still a bit milder though towards the south. here it's actually going to be a bit of a damp start to the day, but further north, away from areas exposed to that northerly wind. it's largely dry across central, southern scotland with some bright sunshine, but elsewhere where we have that northerly wind we are going to see some showers pushing through, some showers across parts of northern ireland first thing, and down the eastern side of england as well . eastern side of england as well. elsewhere, many places across central northern england starting the day largely fine. a few showers for parts of wales and, like i said, across the far south of england, a bit of a damp start, but that rain will clear away as we go through the day and so for many, tomorrow is going to be a much drier and

much brighter day than of late. a few showers inland, but the showers will be most frequent around areas exposed to that northerly wind and in that northerly wind and in that northerly wind and in that northerly wind it is going to feel quite chilly, temperatures dropping compared to how high they have been recently. 13 or 14 celsius at best towards the south and feeling a bit colder than that in that wind. more fine weather to come for many of us as we go through the end of the day, but still some showers in some places, particularly towards the far north—west of scotland. a bit of a north south split as we go towards the weekend, wettest towards the north. there could be some wintriness, some sleet or snow over the higher ground by despite the morning rain it'll be a nice warm, cosy day

race, leaving the tory members to choose between kemi badenoch and robert jenrick. it's certainly a lean to the right, but are either of them capable of taking the fight to starmer? for the first time in 50 years, the uk has had more deaths than births. despite that, our population has seen a record increase due to you guessed it, net migration. let's have a frank conversation about the pros and cons of letting lots of people come and live on this beautiful island. a new report is telling the government that they are neglecting to view climate change as a national security emergency. how scared should we all be of what we used to call the weather and you need the government to take the risks more seriously. plus, a new study suggests that students across the country are being depnved across the country are being deprived of up to date sex education. our schools denying our kids access to important information. or is this taking our curriculum to a more graphic and inappropriate place ?