hard left mp5 like >> dozens of hard left mp5 like diane abbott demand change5 >> dozens of hard left mp5 like diane abbott demand changes to our raci5t immigration laws and to clean up politic5. >> no more vip fa5t lane5. >> no more vip fa5t lane5. >> and you were there. >> and you were there. >> i paid for my tickets, and i paid for my tickets. well, he'5 paying paid for my tickets. well, he'5 paying for his ticket5. eventually you paid for it. but, you know he's paying for his ticket5. >> and he's eventually, in the last few minutes , it'5 >> and he's eventually, in the last few minutes , it's been last few minutes, it's been revealed that taylor swift got a taxpayer funded blue light e5cort. on the same night, our home secretary , yvette cooper home secretary, yvette cooper went to her gig for free. some 5eriou5 went to her gig for free. some serious questions need to be an5wered. >> plu5, an5wered. >> plus, 50 a5 a result of that, that ballot jame5 cleverly i5 that ballot jame5 cleverly is eliminated from the contest and kemi badenoch and robert jenrick now go forward to the ballot of member5. >> it'5 badenoch ver5u5 generic in the final two to be the next tory leader. who do you prefer? >> and my uncle nearly l05t tory leader. who do you prefer? >> and my uncle nearly lost his life when his ship was torpedoed defending the falkland5 .

defending the falkland5. >> ha5 defending the falkland5. >> has the prime minister defending the falkland5. >> has the prime mini5terju5t lied about his uncle being torpedoed in the falkland5 war? there . are . and is labour about there. are. and is labour about to go 50ft there. are. and is labour about to go soft on the eco loon5? i'm joined by the director of the popular con5ervative5, mark littlewood, bu5ine55man popular con5ervative5, mark littlewood, businessman and activist adam brooke5, and activi5t adam brooke5, and writer and broadcaster nina my5kow. oh , and yes, a5 writer and broadcaster nina my5kow. oh , and yes, as i was my5kow. oh, and yes, as i was saying, labour are about to sack 5aying, labour are about to sack the man, it appears, who wanted to clamp down on those eco criminal5. have they caved in to the cru5ty mob? al50 tonight . the cru5ty mob? al50 tonight. reform lee ander50n the cru5ty mob? al50 tonight. reform lee anderson is live to discuss how we should handle the rise of i5lami5t terrori5m. >> and god told me to come out here and get a boat. i came out here and get a boat. i came out here and get a boat. i came out here and got a boat and everything that you've been telling me over the last two days is, i'm doing the right

thing. he'5 days is, i'm doing the right thing. he's got my back. i'm in good shape. i ain't 5weating it. >> hurricane milton i5 hurtling toward5 florida. but that man is refusing to leave. we're going to catch up with him and go live to catch up with him and go live to tampa. get ready britain. here we go . here we go. did labour take police off the streets to protect their mate? taylor swift next. >> very good evening to you. the time has just gone. 9:00. i'm katie bowen in the gb new5room. tory mp5 have now 5elected katie bowen in the gb new5room. tory mp5 have now selected the final two candidates in the conservative leader5hip con5ervative leader5hip election, with kemi badenoch and robert jenrick making it through to the members vote. kemi badenoch received 42 votes. robert jenrick picked up 41 and james cleverly received 37, jame5 cleverly received 37, meaning he has now been

eliminated from the race. in a tweet, cleverly ha5 thanked hi5 tweet, cleverly ha5 thanked his colleagues , party members and colleague5, party members and the public for their support. gb new5 political editor chri5topher hope 5poke new5 political editor chri5topher hope spoke to robert jenrick earlier on. >> i have a very specific plan as to how we do that, whether it's improving the nhs, getting it'5 improving the nhs, getting growth, going again in our economy or ye5, 5ecuring our borders. i do not believe in border5. i do not believe in platitude5. i want us to have a serious plan now as to how we 5eriou5 plan now as to how we move forward and get this party back into gear for the good of our country. >> well, jenrick'5 rival kemi badenoch had this to say a short while later . while later. >> it doesn't matter. people are heanng >> it doesn't matter. people are hearing what i'm saying, and they think my approach is right, that you start with principle5 fir5t that you start with principle5 first and then policy. we need to unite behind a real con5ervati5m. that means something to the country. >> and you can watch the final two battle it out in a special live event here on gb new5 two battle it out in a special live event here on gb news on the 17th of october. to the us, hurricane milton, the biggest hurricane milton, the biggest hurricane in a century, is set

to make landfall later this evening. if you're watching on television, the5e evening. if you're watching on television, these are live televi5ion, these are live picture5 we're bringing you from fort myers in the united states, where the hurricane i5 fort myers in the united states, where the hurricane is now impacting. a short while ago, the president of the united states, joe biden, urged state5, joe biden, urged re5ident5 state5, joe biden, urged residents to follow all safety advice as he held a press conference where he also expressed 5ympathy conference where he also expressed sympathy for those who expre55ed sympathy for those who were recently battered by hurricane helene. >> many communitie5 hurricane helene. >> many communities and hurricane milton'5 path do not have a moment to catch their breath. between helene and milton , two hi5toric 5torm5 breath. between helene and milton , two hi5toric storms in milton, two hi5toric storms in two weeks. i want to thank everyone who has followed local guidance to evacuate ahead of landfall . i guidance to evacuate ahead of landfall. i know guidance to evacuate ahead of landfall . i know it's really landfall. i know it's really tough leaving behind your home, your belongings, everything you own, but i urge everyone in hurricane milton'5 path to follow all safety instructions as we head into the next 24 hour5. >> back at home, it'5 hour5. >> back at home, it's been announced this evening that volodymyr zelen5kyy will visit downing street tomorrow as part of a tour to european nations 5eeking of a tour to european nations seeking support for ukraine'5

re5i5tance seeking support for ukraine'5 resistance against ru55ia. seeking support for ukraine'5 resistance against russia. the ukrainian pre5ident resistance against russia. the ukrainian president will meet sir keir starmer and secretary—general of nato, mark rutter, with the prime minister expected to underline the uk'5 commitment to the defence of ukraine. the prime minister's official 5poke5man ukraine. the prime minister's official spokesman said tonight that the meeting will involve broad 5trategic that the meeting will involve broad strategic decisions on allied 5upport broad strategic decisions on allied support for ukraine. it will be the second time the world leaders have since sir keir starmer wa5 world leaders have since sir keir starmer was elected in july. and finally, 50me 5ad keir starmer was elected in july. and finally, 50me sad news this evening. holocau5t 5urvivor lily ebert ha5 this evening. holocau5t 5urvivor lily ebert has died at the age of 100. tribute5 have been paid to ebert, who has been described as a trailblazing advocate for a5 a trailblazing advocate for holocau5t education. king charles prai5ed her charle5 prai5ed her extraordinary re5ilience charle5 prai5ed her extraordinary resilience and courage, and said that she has become an integral part of the fabnc become an integral part of the fabric of our nation . th05e become an integral part of the fabric of our nation . those are fabric of our nation. those are your latest gb new5 fabric of our nation. those are your latest gb news headlines for now, i'm katie bowen. more from me in an hour for the very latest gb new5 direct to your late5t gb new5 direct to your 5martphone, 5ign late5t gb new5 direct to your 5martphone, sign up to news

alert5 5martphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnew5.com forward 5la5h alert5 . 5la5h alert5. >> ma55ive que5tion5 5la5h alert5. >> ma55ive questions for the home secretary yvette cooper. tonight, taylor swift wa5 home secretary yvette cooper. tonight, taylor swift was given a taxpayer funded blue light e5cort to her wembley concert on the same day. yvette cooper attended that concert for free. reportedly, it'5 believed that the police initially refu5ed reportedly, it'5 believed that the police initially refused to provide an armed guard for the special e5cort group, which is 5pecial e5cort group, which is normally re5erved 5pecial e5cort group, which is normally reserved for the royal family and government mini5ter5. thi5 family and government mini5ter5. this is the same level of protection the home office has refused to provide for prince harry, but this is where it gets really interesting. taylor swift and her mother reportedly threatened to cancel the gig5 following a terror threat in vienna. a source 5ay5 following a terror threat in vienna. a source says that home secretary yvette cooper then 5tre55ed secretary yvette cooper then stressed to our police force that it would be embarrassing and economically damaging if swift cancelled, but it has been

revealed that the home secretary went for free to a taylor swift concert a5 a guest of swift'5 mu5ic label, univer5al concert a5 a guest of swift'5 mu5ic label, universal music, becau5e mu5ic label, universal music, because her husband, ed balls wa5 because her husband, ed balls was given four ticket5 because her husband, ed balls was given four tickets and she went with him . s0 was given four tickets and she went with him . so she did not went with him. so she did not declare this because apparently the tickets were only worth £170, which is less than the £300 that would make it a declarable intere5t. £300 that would make it a declarable interest. and on that same night, taylor swift got a taxpayer funded blue light e5cort to the gig. there are also reports that sadiq khan was involved. the same mayor khan, who unveiled the swift step5 involved. the same mayor khan, who unveiled the swift steps and a mural to her and then attended the concert a5 a mural to her and then attended the concert as well for free laboun the concert as well for free labour, 5eemed confu5ed the concert as well for free labour, 5eemed confused about what went on here. really. culture secretary li5a nandy 5eemed culture secretary li5a nandy seemed to admit that labour politician5 were involved with discussions with police over that taxpayer funded e5cort, and she then got mauled by sky news kay burley thi5 she then got mauled by sky news kay burley this morning . kay burley this morning. >> sky new5 kay burley this morning. >> sky news was at these events in these same boxe5 >> sky news was at these events in these same boxes as well. to be completely fair. who was there and you were there. i paid

for my tickets, but i paid for my tickets. well, he'5 paying for his ticket5. eventually. you paid for them, but he's paying for his ticket5. and he eventually cleared out because he thinks it's eight months earlier, but he. s0 he thinks it's eight months earlier, but he. so please don't do that. no, but he genuinely doe5 think it's important. and he is paying for it from sky. well, i mean, i went and i've declared that in line with the ministerial code, but you don't. mini5terial code, but you don't. but but your suggestion is that somehow they shouldn't be going. 50mehow they shouldn't be going. my 50mehow they shouldn't be going. my point, my point grave. >> a statement from the home office initially 5ugge5ted >> a statement from the home office initially suggested that labour wa5 office initially suggested that labour was involved in discussions about a police e5cort. thi5 discussions about a police e5cort. this statement read5. of course, when event5 e5cort. this statement read5. of course, when events of this scale take place, you would 5cale take place, you would expect the government , the expect the government, the mayor's office and the met mayor'5 office and the met police to work together to ensure that they can be held 5afely ensure that they can be held safely and securely. well, ex tory leader5hip candidate and the former home secretary, jame5 cleverly, wrote a letter to yvette cooper to get clarity on this, a5king did you or any of thi5, a5king did you or any of your mini5ter5 5peak thi5, a5king did you or any of your mini5ter5 speak to 5ir mark rowley at the met police about protection for miss swift? what advice did you or your mini5ter5

receive from 5ir mark or other senior met police officers? he 5enior met police officers? he went on to say that the role of this e5cort group is not for use thi5 e5cort group is not for use by p0p thi5 e5cort group is not for use by pop stars. well, now labour are backing off a bit, 5aying are backing off a bit, saying that they weren't really involved. this is a police matter. nothing dodgy ha5 matter. nothing dodgy has happened at all and even if they were involved, it had nothing to do with the fact that a load of labour mp5 were looking forward to seeing taylor swift for themselves. it comes off the back of numerous 5leaze allegation5. starmer him5elf back of numerous 5leaze allegation5. starmer himself has finally u—turned and paid for his own ticket5 finally u—turned and paid for his own tickets to that concert. but now 59% of the british pubuc but now 59% of the british public think that labour is 5leazy. and if the police and labour mini5ter5 thought the terror threat against taylor swift wa5 terror threat against taylor swift was really 50 bad, then why did 50 many labour politician5, including the prime minister? and as it turns out mini5ter? and as it turns out now, the home secretary , go to now, the home secretary, go to her concert5 them5elve5. surely they can't have been that worried by the terror threat, can they? i mean, there'5 can they? i mean, there's another thing as well to keep an eye on with sir keir. remember when he said this about beer and

comer gate during lockdown ? corner gate during lockdown? >> but if the police decide to issue me with a fixed penalty i55ue me with a fixed penalty nofice i55ue me with a fixed penalty notice , i would of course do the notice, i would of course do the right thing and step down. >> well now he has been referred to police over a potential breach of electoral law regarding lord waheed ali'5 £18 million covent garden penthou5e, starmer told parliament that he was living at lord ali'5 in covent garden, but on his nomination form before and after the election, he appears to have declared as a sworn truth on his election nomination form that he was actually living in kenti5h was actually living in kentish town. that is, according to the guido fawke5 web5ite. town. that is, according to the guido fawke5 website. they say that the law is clear. you must list a current address or you are committing a criminal offence . keir starmer denie5 are committing a criminal offence . keir starmer denies any offence. keir starmer denies any wrongdoing , offence. keir starmer denies any wrongdoing, but let's offence. keir starmer denies any wrongdoing , but let's watch this wrongdoing, but let's watch this space. either way, i just don't 5pace. either way, i just don't think labour can recover from this horrendous 5tart. and i will 5tre55 this horrendous 5tart. and i will stress as well that yvette cooperi5 will stress as well that yvette cooper is currently denying any

wrongdoing a5 cooper is currently denying any wrongdoing as well . let'5 cooper is currently denying any wrongdoing as well . let's get wrongdoing as well. let's get the thoughts of my panel. the director of the popular con5ervative5, mark littlewood. we're also joined by bu5ine55man we're also joined by businessman and activist adam brook5 we're also joined by businessman and activist adam brooks and broadcaster and journalist nina my5kow. and yeah, mark, i'll start with you on this. so the idea that one of two nights where taylor swift wa5 idea that one of two nights where taylor swift was given a taxpayer funded blue light police e5cort happen5, ju5t police e5cort happen5, just happens to be one of the nights when our home secretary wa5 when our home secretary was attending. what do you think about that ? about that? >> if you want to be kind, it'5 >> if you want to be kind, it's a startling coincidence, i5n't a startling coincidence, isn't it, patrick? if you want to be very kind, look, what labour has done here is they have dug their own grave on public ethic5. and then ab50lutely dived in headfir5t. they could not have been. you've 5hown headfir5t. they could not have been. you've shown some clips already. they could not have been clearer that everything was going to be cleaned up in politics once and for all. we politic5 once and for all. we heard keir starmer, ju5t politic5 once and for all. we heard keir starmer, just a clip earlier. n0 vip fa5t lane5. well, what was this if not a vip fa5t what was this if not a vip fast lane if they had not been holier than thou on every single thing

the conservatives took, i don't think they'd be anything like this, this sort of trouble. they could actually say, look, it's sort of normal practice for politician5 sort of normal practice for politicians to meet at quite high grade event5. politicians to meet at quite high grade events. we shouldn't be ashamed of it. but when you start to be able to piece together at least prima facie, on the face of it, that there's a connection between entertainment of politicians and different 5ecurity deci5ion5 entertainment of politicians and different 5ecurity decisions or at least some influence exerted by the home secretary on a procedural p05ition, by the home secretary on a procedural position, it looks ab50lutely terrible. labour here is being hoi5t by their own petard. >> what do you make of this, then, adam? you know yvette cooper 5aying, well, i couldn't declare this at the time because it was only £170. i'll 5tre55 again. the ticket5 it was only £170. i'll 5tre55 again. the tickets were given to for free to her husband, ed balls , by taylor swift'5 mu5ic ball5, by taylor swift'5 mu5ic label. she then went along. and i mean, if they were that worried about the terror threat for taylor swift, 5urely worried about the terror threat for taylor swift, surely they wouldn't have gone them5elve5. >> you know, i wouldn't let you,

wouldn't let children go there, wouldn't let children go there, would you? you would put a stop to the concert or there would be some sort of mass policing there. but look, i don't think anyone thought the first 100 days of this labour government would be 50 chaotic. i expected them to be bad. i didn't expect them to be bad. i didn't expect them to be this bad. now i speak to people out and about and it's very much now. it's u5 to people out and about and it's very much now. it's us and them. these were meant to be for the working man, for the working woman. but they're getting freebie5. they're getting u5e woman. but they're getting freebie5. they're getting use of an £18 million penthou5e. they're getting free clothe5, free gla55e5. you know, lord alli i5 free gla55e5. you know, lord alli is like an atm machine. they can just go and withdraw money. this is embarrassing. and i don't think labour are going to get rid of this. this label how. >> now. >> well, on that, 59% of the pubuc >> well, on that, 59% of the public apparently think labour are 5leazy, which i don't think many people had on their bingo card5 when labour fir5t many people had on their bingo card5 when labour first came into office. to be fair, nina, can they recover from this? >> they will eventually recover, but of course they're 5tuck

>> they will eventually recover, but of course they're stuck with the label becau5e but of course they're stuck with the label because they've really 5crewed the label because they've really screwed up. they have 5crewed up. >> and part of that was because they didn't have the right team in place. they've now hopefully moved towards that. the other thing is that, you know , the thing is that, you know, the election was called earlier than everybody thought it was going to be. so they're kind of 5crambling to be. so they're kind of scrambling to get, you know, to get themselves elected. but then they didn't have the right team in place and they have 5crewed in place and they have screwed up. sue gray wa5 in place and they have screwed up. sue gray was a woman who thought journali5t5 were 5cumbag5, which she said that in cabinet. now the thing is with with the media, thank you with the media. but your too media. and you're a journalist, i assume you're going to say i was assume you're going to say i was a 5cumbag then for a second. n0 a 5cumbag then for a second. no no no no no. 110 110 110 110. >> no no no no. >> but the thing is, the lunatic, the thing is between politician5, between politician5 politician5, between politicians and media, there is a game that has to be played. >> and she wasn't going to play that game. and now they're hopefully going to play the game. now can we get to the taylor swift thing? becau5e game. now can we get to the taylor swift thing? because it's all gone completely over the top. there is some thinking that taylor swift doe5 top. there is some thinking that taylor swift does not deserve an

escort. doe5 taylor swift does not deserve an escort. does that count? well, e5cort. does that count? well, let me just tell you why she does de5erve let me just tell you why she does deserve it . fir5t let me just tell you why she does deserve it . first of all, doe5 deserve it. first of all, it's therefore royal5 . yeah. it'5 therefore royal5. yeah. senior politician5 vi5iting head5 senior politician5 vi5iting heads of state. okay. who might be in danger? >> which one is she? >> which one is she? >> well, wait a minute, taylor swift. and this is you being 5nobby. now, taylor swift i5 swift. and this is you being 5nobby. now, taylor swift is the largest pop star in the world. large5t pop star in the world. >> oh, well, she could pay for herself then. her5elf then. >> hang on a minute. she'5 her5elf then. >> hang on a minute. she's the. she can't provide armed motorcade, okay? she'5 she can't provide armed motorcade, okay? she's the largest pop star in the world. large5t pop star in the world. she has just come from a threat in vienna, which had three concert5 cancelled. she has , concert5 cancelled. she has, what, half a million fan5 coming now when ariana grande gave a concert in manchester, it wasn't ariana grande that was harmed . ariana grande that was harmed. it was, unfortunately, our young people who died. right. s0 it was, unfortunately, our young people who died. right. so it's not just it'5 people who died. right. so it's not just it's not just to protect taylor swift, it'5 not just it's not just to protect taylor swift, it's to protect taylor swift, it's to protect her audience. now hang on a minute. >> she also brings how does it protect her audience? >> becau5e. becau5e protect her audience? >> becau5e. because if somebody

will will get in the way of her. look, look. hang on. >> the blue. the blue light5 look, look. hang on. >> the blue. the blue lights to get her to wembley i5 >> the blue. the blue lights to get her to wembley is clearly for taylor swift, not for the fans. there was not a suggestion fan5. there was not a suggestion that there should be, i don't know, another 300 armed 5ecurity know, another 300 armed security guards out5ide know, another 300 armed security guards outside of the stadium, guard5 outside of the stadium, but this was directed to protect taylor swift. >> can i just get right to the nub of this, though? becau5e, look, there is a to case 5ay look, there is a to case say that taylor swift 5hould look, there is a to case say that taylor swift should have a blue light e5cort. okay, 50 there is that case of it that there is that case of it that the issue here really is whether or not the home secretary at the time decided that taylor swift 5hould time decided that taylor swift should have one on the day that she was due to attend that concert. >> i don't know that you don't know. well, we do know that the point we do we do know that what we do know is that she did attend that concert for free on the day that she was given that the day that she was given that the point being that taylor swift brought £1 billion. >> i'm sorry. no, no, no no no no. nina. nina. and for her to cancel. >> no, 5he threatened to cancel. >> no, 5he threatened to cancel. >> well, she 5he 5he >> no, 5he threatened to cancel. >> well, she 5he she may do, but i'm afraid thi5 >> well, she 5he she may do, but i'm afraid this is cancelled.

nina, thi5 i'm afraid this is cancelled. nina, this is private enterprise. i dare say that adam enterpri5e. i dare say that adam occa5ionally ha5 enterpri5e. i dare say that adam occa5ionally has to pay for security at his pub. it'5 occa5ionally has to pay for security at his pub. it's not paid for by the taxpayer. de5pite paid for by the taxpayer. despite the fact that adam'5 pub generate5 income for the economy. football matche5 generate5 income for the economy. football matches and the security around them are paid by the football team. if you are holding that, it cost was paid back by the organisers, the entire cost of this should be borne by private enterprise. s0 be borne by private enterprise. so it was by the state. >> eventually it was eventually right, but eventually no. >> but the cost of security for a big concert. by and large, unle55 a big concert. by and large, unless you've got a specific terror threat that m15 identified 5hould terror threat that m15 identified should be paid for , identified should be paid for, it wasn't as if there was a short i'm just going to bring. 5hort i'm just going to bring. >> ever been with a pop5tar in a car that'5 covered with 5creaming fan5? becau5e car that'5 covered with 5creaming fan5? because i have, but that's a private matter. not not a private matter. >> i won't a5k, not a private matter. >> i won't ask, i won't a5k >> i won't ask, i won't ask about that. but i tell you , it'5 about that. but i tell you, it's all right. >> we haven't got time in south america with with a with a motorcade e5cort with guns. >> you pay for security, adam. >> you pay for security, adam. >> it'5 >> you pay for security, adam. >> it's how it looks, though, i5n't >> it's how it looks, though, isn't it? and again, you know, yvette cooper had ball5. anyone else have dared to mention this?

will deny any wrongdoing, but it looks as though a load of different labour mp5 had ticket5 different labour mp5 had tickets to go and see taylor swift, and they were de5perate to go and see taylor swift, and they were desperate for that concert to go ahead. >> there'5 concert to go ahead. >> there's a word. it 5tink5. it completely 5tink5. and if this if this was part, this is if this was the tories, if this was bori5, if this was any of the high ranking tory mp5, thi5 high ranking tory mp5, this would be all over the mirror. thi5 would be all over the mirror. this would be all over the guardian. >> this would be 50 many freebie5. it wasn't even this would be a big deal. >> and look, it might not be. it looks very 5u5 but and the key thing is labour a5ked looks very 5u5 but and the key thing is labour asked to be judged by a higher level of criteria. >> they a higher criteria 5crewed >> they a higher criteria screwed up. >> but you bet they have going for taylor swift and saying she didn't just going for taylor swift, going for this particular item 5he 5he swift, going for this particular item 5he she did de5erve. d0 swift, going for this particular item 5he she did de5erve. do you like taylor swift? ye5 item 5he she did de5erve. do you like taylor swift? yes i do. >> what'5 like taylor swift? yes i do. >> what's your favourite song? >> what's your favourite song? >> i am not going to go into this. thi5. >> on that note, for want of a better phra5e, right? that was a lively 5tart. thank you very much. n0

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after he said that far left group5 after he said that far left groups like just stop oil 5hould groups like just stop oil should be treated like terrori5t organi5ation5. s0 be treated like terrori5t organi5ation5. so as labour now caved in to the eco mob going head to head on this, the head of policy at the global warming policy foundation, harry wilkin50n, policy foundation, harry wilkinson, and a ju5t stop oil 5poke5per50n, doctor ben jones. don't go anywhere

welcome back to patrick chri5ty5

tonight. now, coming up after the tory leader5hip candidate5 the tory leader5hip candidates will whittle down to two who would reform uk fear m05t. lee ander50n join5 me very soon. but first, has labour ab50lutely caved in to the eco mob? it'5 caved in to the eco mob? it's time for the head to head. all right, 50 rumour5 5wirling tonight that the government's anti—extremi5m t5ar, lord walney , anti—extremi5m t5ar, lord walney, could be facing the axe ju5t month5 could be facing the axe ju5t months after he warned that far left group5 months after he warned that far left groups are wreaking havoc on britain. lord walney ha5 left groups are wreaking havoc on britain. lord walney has been an outspoken critic of groups like just stop oil and palestine action, claiming in a report earlier this year that they should be treated like terrori5t organi5ation5 should be treated like terrori5t organisations and that it should be an offence to belong to such a protest group. well, 5urpri5e, a protest group. well, surprise, surprise, the government is now reportedly reviewing hi5 surprise, the government is now reportedly reviewing his role. it comes after the anti—brexit anti—tory pre55ure group led by donkey5 la5t anti—tory pre55ure group led by donkey5 last night called for labour to release 50—called climate activi5t5 from jail. >> among those currently held in uk jail5 are five ju5t stop oil

activi5t5 5erving 5entence5 between 4 and 5 years. >> meanwhile , two other >> meanwhile, two other prote5ter5 who threw 50up on the glass of van gogh'5 sunflower5 have just been sentenced to 20 months and two years in prison. well, now there's a new parliament and a new government led by a man who used to understand the role prote5t play5 understand the role prote5t plays in making the uk a better place to live. it'5 plays in making the uk a better place to live. it's time for labour to remember its roots and rein5tate labour to remember its roots and reinstate the right to peaceful prote5t . prote5t. >> indeed, labour'5 bigge5t corporate donor in the run up to the election was none other than climate change campaigner and former ju5t stop oil donor dale vince. s0 former ju5t stop oil donor dale vince. so as rumour5 5wirl that the government's anti—extremi5m t5an the government's anti—extremi5m t5ar, lord walney, i5 the government's anti—extremi5m t5ar, lord walney, is facing the chop tonight, i'm asking ha5 labour caved in to the eco mob? make sure you go to gbnew5.com forward, 5la5h your say. tweet me @gbnew5. and when you're there, have a little vote in our poll. but going head to head on this now are the head of policy at the global warming policy foundation, harry wilkin50n. and ju5t stop oil 5poke5per50n doctor bing jone5. shapp5, thank

you very much. great to have you both on the show. harry, i'll start with you. i mean, doe5 start with you. i mean, does this look a little bit like they are? they are trying to appease the eco mob by shifting lord walney to one side. >> well, there's been a lot of confusion about this story. we heard ye5terday thi5 confusion about this story. we heard ye5terday this report from the by—line time5 heard ye5terday this report from the by—line times that he was out of a job. then we heard from the government. he was still in post. and 50 now there's a lot of confusion around this particular story. i think we should go back to what the key problem5 should go back to what the key problems were here. we saw extinction rebellion, ju5t stop oil. the5e extreme green group5 oil. the5e extreme green groups who were actually really threatening public safety. we've seen ambulance5 blocked from 5een ambulance5 blocked from going down the road. we've seen per5i5tent illegal behaviour. we've seen extinction rebellion activi5t5 jailed for a plot that would have actually brought the south—east of england to deadlock by freezing traffic on the m25. the5e deadlock by freezing traffic on the m25. these are really dangerou5 action5 the m25. these are really dangerou5 actions that could cost live5 dangerou5 actions that could cost lives and, and ruin, you

c05t lives and, and ruin, you know, many livelihood5 c05t lives and, and ruin, you know, many livelihoods and do real damage to the economy. s0 real damage to the economy. so there was a need for him to address this and address how the police re5pond5 address this and address how the police responds to this, because they haven't nece55arily been acting in the most robust way. when we see these deva5tating prote5t5, we see prote5ter5 who are committing offence5 again and again and again and not seeing ju5tice faced. 5eeing ju5tice faced. >> fine. doctor jone5, ju5t 5eeing ju5tice faced. >> fine. doctor jone5, just stop >> fine. doctorjone5, just stop oil 5poke5per50n i will bring you in here. pre5umably ju5t stop oil would welcome the removal of lord walney. think5 that you're ba5ically extremi5t. should be treated as extremi5t group5 . group5. >> yeah. lord walney i5 group5. >> yeah. lord walney is not independent. he'5 paid. he'5 part of a group that'5 paid for by f055il part of a group that'5 paid for by fossil fuels and arms intere5t5 . appointing him is intere5t5. appointing him is a kind of a corruption of the democratic process. it's basically allowing the fossil ba5ically allowing the fossil fuel indu5try ba5ically allowing the fossil fuel industry to have a voice in 5ilencing people who are trying

to warn , warn u5 5ilencing people who are trying to warn , warn us all of the most to warn, warn us all of the most awful. >> sorry, didn't delve into donate to labour. 15 that not what you're doing ? what you're doing? >> pardon? >> pardon? >> well, dale. dale, vince gave the labour party a load of money when he was a big backer of just stop oil. 15 that not quite a similar thing? money, ve5ted similar thing? money, vested interests? influence? intere5t5? influence? >> no , dale, vince doe5n't intere5t5? influence? >> no , dale, vince doesn't have >> no, dale, vince doesn't have an official p05t whereby he advises the government. right. and look, we're looking at we're looking at the collapse of the climate. patrick, are you not looking at your television screen? we're looking at 5creen? we're looking at 5cienti5t5 5creaming, 5creen? we're looking at 5cienti5t5 screaming, and we're looking at hurricane5 5cienti5t5 screaming, and we're looking at hurricanes in america, which are the worst ever hurricane5 that have ever hit that part of the of the country. we're looking at hundreds of people dying. we're looking at billion5 hundreds of people dying. we're looking at billions of pounds worth of damage. we're looking at human mi5ery on a massive 5cale . and we're all you want to 5cale. and we're all you want to do is to quibble about whether or not this is a right. >> no, no, the thing, the thing i'm quibbling over is something i'm quibbling over is something

i think actually cut5 right to the very core of our democracy, harry, which is whether or not a pressure group, an environmental pre55ure group, an environmental pre55ure group, an environmental pre55ure group, an environmental pre55ure group like just stop oil, which has by many people's metric , employed relatively metric, employed relatively extreme action over the course of the years, been able to have some influence over the current government that we've got. d0 government that we've got. do you think they do , harry? you think they do, harry? >> well, if this decision has in fact been made, then it would suggest, unfortunately, they do 5ugge5t, unfortunately, they do that they're ignoring the risk that they're ignoring the risk that some of these groups p05e. and we've heard much extremi5m from these kind of groups. it'5 from these kind of groups. it's sad to hear these doom and gloom warning5 repeated . the reality warning5 repeated. the reality is that fewer people are dying in extreme weather. and children, you know, are being poi50ned by this cata5trophic narrative. they're being , you narrative. they're being, you know, they're leaving school to go on prote5t5 . and, you know, go on prote5t5. and, you know, adult5 go on prote5t5. and, you know, adults who should know better are facilitating children leaving 5chool5. so, you know, these groups . these groups. >> non5en5e. that'5 ab50lute

non5en5e. the mi5ery cau5ed >> non5en5e. that'5 ab50lute non5en5e. the mi5ery caused by climate change, by the climate warming, the heating of the climate is absolutely dire. there are millions of people who are being di5placed there are millions of people who are being displaced from their their homes. they can't grow the food that their grandchildren. why do you keep throwing 50up over a van gogh then? >> what'5 over a van gogh then? >> what's the point of that? >> what's the point of that? >> becau5e >> what's the point of that? >> because the essence of the problem is that people have no. the government and you guys in the media are not conveying the urgency of this problem. it is getting worse by the minute. and the van gogh 5tunt, you might call it, got million5 the van gogh 5tunt, you might call it, got millions and millions of hits. we are managed to be able to raise this issue. patrick. thi5 to be able to raise this issue. patrick. this is absolutely dire. i've told you before, i'm a doctor. i've watched people dying unnece55arily, nece55arily becau5e dying unnece55arily, nece55arily because they did not know how bad their their problem was. this is the world's 5ituation how. >> now. >> sorry. just clarify that for me. sorry, 50rry, >> sorry. just clarify that for me. sorry, sorry, sorry. what do you mean? s0

me. sorry, sorry, sorry. what do you mean? so what? sorry. i don't quite understand what you mean. a5 a doctor, you watch people dying. what? becau5e mean. a5 a doctor, you watch people dying. what? because of climate crisis in this country? sorry, did i mi5under5tand that? sorry. >> i watched people with cancer5 who did not realise how bad their cancer5 who did not realise how bad their cancers were. right. i see late and they died unnece55arily. and that is the situation that we're in at the moment. and people like harry, who are paid to advocate for the fossil fuel indu5try, who are paid to advocate for the fossil fuel industry, which is causing the collapse of our climate. thi5 causing the collapse of our climate. this is this is absolutely terrible becau5e ab50lutely terrible because people do not realise the cause of the hurricane5 people do not realise the cause of the hurricanes and the it's complete non5en5e. we need to do that. >> it'5 complete non5en5e. if i may interject there to say i'm being paid by f055il may interject there to say i'm being paid by fossil fuels, that'5 being paid by fossil fuels, that's not the case. i am concerned about climate change, and i want to see 5en5ible policie5 and i want to see 5en5ible policies to respond to that threat. what we would have, what would happen if we follow the

green extremi5t5 policie5 would happen if we follow the green extremi5t5 policies is that, you know, the global economy would collapse. million5 economy would collapse. millions of people would die because the anti—growth agenda is 50 dangerou5. >> the global economy is going to collapse. it'5 collap5ing right now. the copernicu5 in5titute okay. >> all right, guy5? well, i'm afraid we are. we are out of time and but just not quite in the same way that doctor bing jone5 think5 the same way that doctor bing jone5 thinks we are. and you're going to go to your poll now. but thank you very much to the head of policy at the global warming policy foundation, harry wilkin50n, warming policy foundation, harry wilkinson, and just stop oil 5poke5per50n doctor bing jone5. until next time . s0 5poke5per50n doctor bing jone5. until next time . so who do you until next time. so who do you agree with? ha5 labour caved in to the eco mob? albert on x as typical labour more concerned with appea5ing noi5y prote5ter5 than 5tanding with appea5ing noi5y prote5ter5 than standing up to the silent majority. another example of their inability to make tough deci5ion5. sarah 5ay5 caved. they are the eco mob. all right. okay, well, your verdict is now in. 97% of you think that labour has in. 97% of you think that labour ha5indeed in. 97% of you think that labour has indeed caved to the eco mob. 3% of you say labour has not. it will be interesting to see whether or not lord walney i5

whether or not lord walney is still in post this time tomorrow, won't it? but coming up, thanks to your generous donations, my fundrai5er up, thanks to your generous donations, my fundraiser for donation5, my fundraiser for friends of the elderly ha5 friends of the elderly has reached ju5t friends of the elderly has reached just over £220,000. but i'm not going to stop here. we've got to raise a5 i'm not going to stop here. we've got to raise as much money as possible this winter. i'm going to be joined by a pen5ioner very, very soon who'5 worried that she will freeze to death. she'5 worried that she will freeze to death. she's in. apparently, britain'5 colde5t town or england'5 colde5t town. i should say. storie5 like hers that make 5ay. storie5 like hers that make your donations all the more important. and i am going to need a bit of audience participation 5hortly from you. so 5tay participation 5hortly from you. so stay where you are. but s0 stay where you are. but first, a stark warning from the boss of m15. >> ye5terday, fini5h here with a terrorist trend that concerns me terrori5t trend that concerns me most. the wor5ening threat from al—qaeda and in particular from 15lamic al—qaeda and in particular from islamic state. >> yeah, it couldn't have been clearer. but somehow the media wound up blaming the 50—called far right for britain's 5ub5tantial terror threat level. shouldn't we be more worried about 15lami5t extremi5m shouldn't we be more worried about 15lami5t extremism and what should we do about it? well, reform uk'5 lee ander50n , well, reform uk'5 lee ander50n, he'5 live and he's next. i'm going to ask reform would fear more kemi

welcome back to patrick chri5ty5 tonight. so the head of m15, ken mccallum, i55ued tonight. so the head of m15, ken mccallum, issued a stark warning ye5terday mccallum, issued a stark warning yesterday about the uk'5 terror threat level. in a speech, he said that the main threat was unque5tionably about al—qaeda and isis. but headline5 managed to blame extreme right wing ideology. radicali5ing kid5 to blame extreme right wing ideology. radicali5ing kids as young as 13. i ideology. radicali5ing kids as young a513. i mean, you'd be

forgiven for thinking that he was totally blaming the 50—called far right, wouldn't you?i 50—called far right, wouldn't you? i mean, it is really strange, actually. seriou5ly, 5trange, actually. seriou5ly, becau5e 5trange, actually. seriou5ly, because this is what he actually said . 5aid. >> we've seen appalling l055 5aid. >> we've seen appalling loss of life in gaza and now lebanon, and conflict 5piralling in the wider region, with all the implications that brings for middle eastern and uk 5ecurity . middle eastern and uk 5ecurity. today, we are powerfully arrived alive to the risk that events in the middle east directly trigger terrori5t action in the uk. i'll fini5h here with a terrorist trend that concerns me most the worsening threat from al—qaeda. wor5ening threat from al—qaeda. and in particular from 15lamic state. >> lee ander50n join5 me now. the reform uk mp. lee, i mean, are you more worried about the threat of 15lami5m than the threat of 15lami5m than the threat of 15lami5m than the threat of the far right? >> i think you know, my answer to that, patrick. we've seen over the past few years, we've let everybody and his dog into this country. we've had uncontrolled border5. we've seen people 5neaking in the country through the back door. we've seen people being radicali5ed in

this country. and i am actually very, very concerned. we see the events going off in the middle east. we see the events going ea5t. we see the events going off in gaza, you know, and we've seen i think it was a poll thi5 seen i think it was a poll this week where, you know, lots of young people have you know, 5ympathy young people have you know, sympathy with what's going on in, in, in palestine. it'5 sympathy with what's going on in, in, in palestine. it's very worrying , patrick. and, you worrying, patrick. and, you know, i fear for this country 50metime5 know, i fear for this country sometimes i really do. and we've 5at idly by over the past few years and absolutely nothing to stop this threat. >> it'5 stop this threat. >> it's another thing that i'm pretty convinced that we're going to ignore becau5e pretty convinced that we're going to ignore because we have ignored it. look, he made the point that, you know, something like 25% of their time is taken up like 25% of their time is taken ”p by like 25% of their time is taken up by far, right. he'5 worried about, you know, far right radicali5ation by young people. i don't want to dismiss that entirely. but that does mean unequivocally, yet again, that the major problem is 15lami5t terrori5m. you mentioned there another report that came out, which 1 in 10 young people, 18 to 24, ba5ically 5upport hama5. we've had mp5 killed by 15lami5t terrori5t5, you know, and i just

wonder what what would you do? what would you do, lee? becau5e what would you do, lee? because if we are going to see it ma55ively kick off in the middle east, it is going to impact u5 ea5t, it is going to impact us on the streets here. so how do we deal with that? >> well, look, we've seen sir keir. he was very robust. patrick. you know, just a few months ago a few weeks ago. sorry, when people were out there, you know, demon5trating, throwing brick5 there, you know, demon5trating, throwing bricks and being nui5ance5 in society, there was arrested , charged and put in arre5ted, charged and put in prison within a matter of days. pri50n within a matter of days. if he took the same sort of robust action with this robu5t action with this demographic, we're talking about it would stop very, very quickly. >> well, of some of the people who we actually 5howed >> well, of some of the people who we actually showed on this show, on this very program, we showed people being raci5t 5howed people being raci5t again5t jewi5h 5howed people being raci5t again5t jewish people. we also showed people it could not have 5howed people it could not have been clearer. holding a sign 5aying, been clearer. holding a sign saying, i love hezbollah. people calling hama5 freedom fighters and pledging their allegiance to them. if any of those people have been arrested, well , we're have been arrested, well, we're not sure. but will they then go

to prison for the same amount of time as some people who were just in and around some of the disturbances that we saw di5turbance5 that we saw previou5ly? we'll have to wait and see. but, lee, i want to wizard on to a story that was, you know, certainly, certainly one of the biggest 5torie5 you know, certainly, certainly one of the biggest stories of the day. and the tory leader5hip candidate5 the day. and the tory leader5hip candidates have been whittled down to just two. >> kemi badenoch , 42 votes. >> kemi badenoch, 42 votes. jame5 cleverly , 37 votes and jame5 cleverly, 37 votes and robert jenrick, 41 votes. so, as a result of that, that ballot, jame5 cleverly i5 a result of that, that ballot, jame5 cleverly is eliminated from the contest and kemi badenoch and robert jenrick now go forward to the ballot of members . member5. >> i mean, i don't know if you clocked it, but the guy on the right couldn't even do his suit up properly there. but jame5 cleverly i5 up properly there. but jame5 cleverly is out. kemi badenoch and robert jenrick, they're going head to head before a winner is announced on the 2nd of november. lee, who do you

fear m05t? >> i don't fear any, to be honest with you , patrick. honest with you, patrick. i mean, it's going to be i mean, i know rob very, very well . cla55 know rob very, very well. cla55 him as a friend. he'5 know rob very, very well. cla55 him as a friend. he's a good quy- him as a friend. he's a good guy.soi5 him as a friend. he's a good guy. s0 is kemi. rob'5 going to campaign quite clearly on leaving the echr. and kev'5 not come out and actually admitted she will do that. the problem rob'5 got patrick is yes, he might want to campaign on leaving the echr, but the parliamentary party, the shadow cabinet, whoever he picks will never back him on that. and it's going to be interesting, patrick, to see how many people are actually left in the conservative party member5hip. conservative party membership. i suspect it's not as many as reform uk. we'll have to wait and see. but which type of members are actually still in the conservative party? 15 it the conservative party? 15 it the wet5 , the liberals, the the wet5, the liberals, the remainer5, the remoaner5? becau5e remainer5, the remoaner5? because i tell you what, patrick, 1 think the vast majority of the true con5ervative5 have left and come to reform uk . to reform uk. >> that is going to be a massive que5tion >> that is going to be a massive question that will be answered when they have this vote. and i think you're ab50lutely 5pot when they have this vote. and i think you're ab50lutely spot on. i was at tory

think you're ab50lutely spot on. iwa5 at tory party think you're ab50lutely spot on. i was at tory party conference and i was quite surprised by some of the views that i heard there. it did make me wonder whether or not actually quite a lot of them had gone to reform. and when it comes to robert or kemi, which one do you think reform would most likely do a deal with? >> oh, i don't know. >> oh, i don't know. >> i think kemi to be honest with you, patrick, 5he'5 50rt >> i think kemi to be honest with you, patrick, 5he'5 sort of said she doesn't want anything, anything to do with nigel farage. i think that's a pretty fooli5h thing to say. i think robert'5 been a bit more open about this. he'5 5peaking our 50rt about this. he'5 5peaking our sort of language, but like i say, patrick, who knows? i mean, 5ay, patrick, who knows? i mean, the membership has probably changed ma55ively over the past year or 50. since reform uk have been on, been on the march. and i think like i said before, a lot of the true con5ervative5 in the conservative party member5hip have probably come over to reform uk. s0 kemi may well get it. >> d0 well get it. >> do you think that that would actually be a bad thing though? i mean, i do look forward, you know, i, you know, i would look forward to the idea of starmer trying to deal with with kemi.

in a sense it would probably 5top in a sense it would probably stop him being able to, you know, 5ay everyone on the right is a racist. >> well, it might be a little bit lively on a wednesday afternoon . patrick at the afternoon. patrick at the de5patch box, becau5e afternoon. patrick at the de5patch box, because at the moment let'5 de5patch box, because at the moment let's be honest, pmqs i5 moment let's be honest, pmqs is quite boring, you know. but kemi ha5 quite boring, you know. but kemi has got a little bit of fire in her belly. rob'5 pretty good at the de5patch box as well. but you know what? i think? i think the conservative party at the moment are a bu5ted flu5h. i really think they are. i mean, cleverly going out. i'm disappointed. i wanted him to actually win the leadership conte5t becau5e actually win the leadership conte5t because if he'd have won, i tell you what, patrick, i'd have been in that place for another 20 years. >> well, well, well, there you go. all right, lee, thank you very, very much. lee ander50n. there . reform uk rempe right . there. reform uk rempe right. and on that note, gb new5 there. reform uk rempe right. and on that note, gb news will be hosting a live debate with the final two tory candidate5. kemi badenoch, up against robert jenrick on the 17th of october at 7:00 pm. now i'm going to be watching the debate with my very own studio audience right here, and i want you to join me. so go

to w—w—w dot 5 r 0 audience5 dot com to sign up. i think it's there. there it is. there you go. have a look at that and then type it in and do it. i'll get reaction after the debate from a panel of political heavyweight5 a5 panel of political heavyweight5 as well. and my own 5uper5tar panelli5t alli50n pear50n will be here. lord shaun bailey will be here. lord shaun bailey will be here. lord shaun bailey will be here. matthew laza will be here as well. you could be a part of all of that to make sure that you get your tickets before they sell out. well, with that in mind coming up and that would give us, i think, 170 how 50rry , give us, i think, 170 how 50rry, dozen5 give us, i think, 170 how 50rry, dozens of hard left mp5 like diane abbott and dawn butler have written to the home secretary demanding change5 have written to the home secretary demanding changes to our, quote, raci5t immigration laws. s0 our, quote, raci5t immigration laws. so will keir starmer law5. so will keir starmer li5ten law5. so will keir starmer listen to them and more importantly, what is 50 raci5t about wanting to just control our borders? that'5 at 10:00 pm. but first, well, thanks to you, my fundrai5er but first, well, thanks to you, my fundraiser for friends of the elderly ha5 my fundraiser for friends of the elderly has reached £220,000. a bit more than that actually .

elderly has reached £220,000. a bit more than that actually. i'm going to be joined next by a pen5ioner from england'5 colde5t town who'5 got a few home truth5 town who'5 got a few home truths town who'5 got a few home truths to say about the 5crapping of the winter fuel allowance. 5tay stay tuned, becau5e going to need some help from you

welcome back to patrick chri5ty5 tonight . now welcome back to patrick chri5ty5 tonight. now coming up, is it really raci5t to want to just control immigration? i'm not sure it is. but first, thank5 control immigration? i'm not sure it is. but first, thanks to you, my fundrai5er sure it is. but first, thanks to you, my fundraiser for friends of the elderly ha5 you, my fundraiser for friends of the elderly has hit more than £224,000. look at that. the target is 260 grand. it'5 £224,000. look at that. the target is 260 grand. it's all for friends of the elderly. you can go to ju5tgiving.com forward 5la5h page forward 5la5h. save our seniors. now i'm going to keep doing everything i can to raise a5 keep doing everything i can to raise as much money as i can, rai5e as much money as i can, which is why i'm going to embark on a cold water 5wim. all right. and i want you to tell me where to do it. i think it's time that i get a bit cold my5elf, talking about pen5ioner5 freezing in

their own homes. and you can email me your suggestions. g0 to gb view5 @gbnew5. .uk. g0 email me your suggestions. g0 to gb view5 @gbnew5. .uk. go there, email in and tell me where in the country you think i should do that 5wim. ju5t the country you think i should do that 5wim. just put pen5ioner5 in the subject line and i'll read out some of your suggestions a bit later on in 5ugge5tion5 a bit later on in the show. but why am i doing this? well, it's for stories like this. we've got 79 year old su5an men5forth, who'5 from apparently one of the coldest town5 apparently one of the coldest towns in britain. it'5 buxton in nonh towns in britain. it'5 buxton in north derby5hire, where it gets as cold as i think it was minu5 ten or 50 last winter, and she's l05ing ten or 50 last winter, and she's losing her winter fuel payment . losing her winter fuel payment. and frankly, 5he'5 terrified becau5e and frankly, 5he'5 terrified because not just her, it'5 plenty of other people as well that she knows are going to be in real 5trife over this. i'm very pleased to say su5an join5 me now. su5an, thank you very much . great to have you on the much. great to have you on the show. and now i think you think it's a bit unfair, thi5 show. and now i think you think it's a bit unfair, this cut in the winter fuel payment, don't you? >>i you? >> i think that the threshold ha5 >> i think that the threshold has been set far, far too low. there are far people on pen5ion credit are in poverty. in any

case, but people just above that are also in poverty. i have quite 5ufficient are also in poverty. i have quite sufficient to live on. although the pensions and lifetime saving5 a550ciation 5ay5 lifetime saving5 a550ciation says that you need for a minimum life5tyle, £14,400 a year to live on. now th05e life5tyle, £14,400 a year to live on. now those who are just above the pension credit, they're ab50lutely deva5tated above the pension credit, they're ab50lutely devastated by this and i call it utter cruelty. i've got 5aving5 , 50 cruelty. i've got savings, 50 i'm lucky, but i believe in fighting for other people , for ju5tice. >> and that's that'5 ju5tice. >> and that's that's why i wanted to talk to you, su5an, about this. i know we spoke earlier becau5e actually there are loads of people that you know around that area, which is going to be one of the coldest part5 going to be one of the coldest parts of england. certainly this winter. who who are really going

to struggle, aren't they, su5an, who are going to have to wear outdoor clothe5 indoor5? yeah . outdoor clothe5 indoor5? yeah. >> i mean, i was brought up as a lot of people were that you put on an extra layer of clothes, but when you get to my age as a pen5ioner, you can't take the exercise you used to get to get the circulation going . it'5 the circulation going. it's going to lead to excess death. i belong to an organisation who takes campaign5 belong to an organisation who takes campaigns for the elderly take5 campaigns for the elderly called silver voice5, and there are other campaign5 called silver voice5, and there are other campaigns for the elderly, you know, the national pen5ioner5 convention, age uk and they've got member5 pen5ioner5 convention, age uk and they've got members who are absolutely terrified about how ab50lutely terrified about how they're going to get through the winter. price5 they're going to get through the winter. prices have just gone, energy prices have just gone up again. older people tend to

spend much more of the day and obviously evening in their obviou5ly evening in their homes, 50 they need lighting, they need heating , but people they need heating, but people are having to take the choice between eating and heating. and i've cut back on things . but i've cut back on things. but there are some people who are having to ab50lutely cut out all but e55ential5 having to ab50lutely cut out all but essentials and when you've worked and paid into the system all of your life , it seems all of your life, it seems totally unju5t. yeah , my own mp totally unju5t. yeah, my own mp for high peak, who'5 totally unju5t. yeah, my own mp for high peak, who's a ex—london lawyer who was brought up in the derby area, not in this area, and he seems to think that anybody above the pension credit

limit is a millionaire. >> yeah, exactly. and that's wrong. well, look, su5an , thank wrong. well, look, su5an, thank you 50 much for coming on to talk to us tonight and for making your points and hopefully helping to raise a bit of money and awareness for other people. all the best, su5an. you take care and we'll 5tay all the best, su5an. you take care and we'll stay in touch. and you can go to ju5tgiving.com forward 5la5h page forward 5la5h 5ave forward 5la5h page forward 5la5h save our seniors to donate. it'5 save our seniors to donate. it's the weather next, but i'll see you in. >> ooh, a chilly 5tart will give way to a lovely warm afternoon. boxt heat pumps 5p0n50r5 way to a lovely warm afternoon. boxt heat pumps sponsors of weather on gb new5. weather on gb news. >> good evening. i'm here with your gb new5 weather from the met office as we go through into tomorrow it is going to turn dner tomorrow it is going to turn drier for many of us with some clearer or brighter 5kie5. drier for many of us with some clearer or brighter 5kie5 . but clearer or brighter 5kie5. but with that, it is also going to be a bit chillier becau5e with that, it is also going to be a bit chillier because as the low pressure that'5 be a bit chillier because as the low pressure that's been dominating the weather acr055 dominating the weather across the uk recently drift5 away toward5 the uk recently drift5 away towards the east, we will then get a northerly flow and that northerly air is going to bring something a little bit colder for the time being, though,

still some clouds, 50me outbreak5 still some clouds, 50me outbreaks of rain acr055 still some clouds, 50me outbreaks of rain across many parts of england and wales. all of this though 5hifting further 50uthward5 with clearer 5kie5 developing acr055 50uthward5 with clearer 5kie5 developing across scotland, northern england and northern ireland. and under these clearer 5kie5, temperature5 ireland. and under these clearer 5kie5, temperatures are going to take a bit of a drop. turning pretty chilly could be a touch of frost in some places. a milder night, though acr055 of frost in some places. a milder night, though across the south here it is going to be 50uth here it is going to be a cloudier 5tart 50uth here it is going to be a cloudier start to tomorrow morning. there will be some outbreak5 morning. there will be some outbreaks of rain. could be the odd heavier bur5t, but most of this will clear through as we go through the morning. for central part5, thing5 brightening up quite quickly and also some decent bright sunny weather acr055 part5 decent bright sunny weather acr055 parts of northern ireland, northern england and scotland. but all the time there will be some 5hower5 around. the 5hower5 will be most likely in areas exp05ed 5hower5 will be most likely in areas exposed to that northerly area5 exposed to that northerly wind, 50 parts of northern ireland, northern scotland and down the eastern side of england and scotland as well. but even a few 5hower5 and scotland as well. but even a few showers are possible el5ewhere. few showers are possible elsewhere. we may see 1 or 2 5hower5 developing in some inland place5 too, but for many it is going to be a much drier day than the last couple of

days, and it's going to be a bit brighter. but like i said, we do have that cold air pu5hing it5 have that cold air pu5hing its way in, 50 temperature5 markedly lower and feeling pretty cold indeed, e5pecially lower and feeling pretty cold indeed, especially in those bri5k northerly wind5. a5 we go towards the end of the week and a bit of a north south 5plit, developing wetter weather acr055 northern parts of scotland, 5eeing northern parts of scotland, seeing some outbreak5 northern parts of scotland, seeing some outbreaks of rain, perhap5 seeing some outbreaks of rain, perhaps some wintrine55 over the higher ground, 5taying drier and brighter acr055 higher ground, 5taying drier and brighter across the southern two thirds of the uk. however, again through the weekend, 50me thirds of the uk. however, again through the weekend, some rain is likely, mainly in the north. i'll see you again soon. bye bye . i'll see you again soon. bye bye. >> expect a warm front moving from the kitchen right through to the rest of hou5e. boxt sponsoi's sponsors of

gb new5. gb news. >> it'5 gb news. >> it's 10 gb news. >> it'510 p.m. gb news. >> it'510 pm. on patrick >> it's 10 pm. on patrick chri5ty5 tonight and that would give us, i think, 170. >> how 50rry.

>> how 50rry. >> dozen5 >> how 50rry. >> dozens of hard left mp5 like diane abbott demand change5 >> dozens of hard left mp5 like diane abbott demand changes to our raci5t immigration laws, including 1 take this oath under prote5t including 1 take this oath under protest and in the hope that one day my fellow citizens will democratically decide to live in a republic. anti—monarchy clive lewi5. >> and you are the wrong one, the violent one, the weird one. wherea5 i, i am the chosen one permanently. >> race ob5e55ed dawn butler. s0 >> race ob5e55ed dawn butler. so will keir starmer, cave in to them? >> and 50 a5 a result of that, that ballot jame5 cleverly i5 that ballot jame5 cleverly is eliminated from the contest and kemi badenoch and robert jenrick now go forward to the ballot of member5. >> it'5 badenoch ver5u5 jenrick in the final two to be the next tory leader who do you prefer? >> plu5 my uncle nearly l05t tory leader who do you prefer? >> plu5 my uncle nearly lost his life when his ship was torpedoed defending the falkland5 .

defending the falkland5. >> not quite, though, ha5 defending the falkland5. >> not quite, though, has the prime minister >> not quite, though, has the prime mini5terju5t lied there prime minister ju5t lied there about his uncle being torpedoed in the falkland5 war? on my panel tonight is the director of popular con5ervative5, mark littlewood , landlord and littlewood, landlord and activist adam brook5 littlewood, landlord and activist adam brooks and activi5t adam brooks and journalist nina my5kow. oh, and journali5t nina my5kow. oh, and god told me to come out here and get a boat. >> i came out here and got a boat and everything you've been telling me over the last two days telling me over the last two day5i5 telling me over the last two days is i'm telling me over the last two day5i51'm doing telling me over the last two days is i'm doing the right day5i51'm doing the right thing. he'5 day5i51'm doing the right thing. he's got my back. i'm in good shape. i ain't 5weating it. >> american5 good shape. i ain't 5weating it. >> americans are a different breed, aren't they? hurricane milton i5 hurtling toward5 florida. in fact , thi5 milton i5 hurtling toward5 florida. in fact , this is the. florida. in fact, this is the. this is the scene at the moment. all right, 50 it's hitting land as we speak. we are going to take you live to tampa where it's all about to kick right off. so make sure you stay tuned for that. get ready britain. here we go. why do 50 many labour mp5 think just protecting

our borders i5 raci5t? next . our borders i5 raci5t? next. >> a very good evening to you. the time has just gone. 10:00. i'm katie bowen in the gb newsroom. i'm katie bowen in the gb new5room. tory mp5 have now 5elected new5room. tory mp5 have now selected the final two candidates in the conservative leader5hip election, with kemi badenoch and robert jenrick making it through to the members vote. kemi badenoch received 42 votes. robert jenrick picked up vote5. robert jenrick picked up 41 and james cleverly received 37, meaning he has now been eliminated from the race. in a tweet, cleverly ha5 thanked hi5 tweet, cleverly ha5 thanked his colleagues, party members and colleague5, party members and the public for their support. gb new5 political editor chri5topher hope 5poke new5 political editor chri5topher hope spoke to robert jenrick earlier on. >> i have a very specific plan as to how we do that, whether it's improving the nhs, getting it'5 improving the nhs, getting growth, going again in our economy or , ye5, 5ecuring our economy or, ye5, 5ecuring our borders. 1 don't believe in platitude5. i want us to have a serious plan now as to how we 5eriou5 plan now as to how we move forward and get this party

back into gear for the good of our country. >> well, jenrick'5 rival kemi badenoch had this to say a short while later it doesn't matter. >> people are hearing what i'm saying and they think my approach is right, that you start with principle5 fir5t approach is right, that you start with principle5 first and then policy. we need to unite behind a real con5ervati5m that means something to the country. >> and you can watch the final two battle it out in a special live event here on gb new5 two battle it out in a special live event here on gb news on the 17th of october. to the us hurricane milton, the biggest hurricane in a century , i5 hurricane in a century, is making landfall thi5 hurricane in a century, is making landfall this evening. if you're watching on television, the5e you're watching on television, these are live picture5 we're bringing you from fort myers in the united states, where the hurricane i5 the united states, where the hurricane is now impacting. a short while ago, the president of the united states, joe biden, urged re5ident5 of the united states, joe biden, urged residents to follow all safety advice as he held a press 5afety advice as he held a press conference where he also expressed 5ympathy conference where he also expressed sympathy for those who expre55ed sympathy for those who were recently battered by hurricane helene . hurricane helene. >> many communitie5 hurricane helene. >> many communities in hurricane milton'5 path do not have a

moment to catch their breath between helene and milton, two hi5toric 5torm 5torm5 between helene and milton, two hi5toric 5torm storms in two weeks. i want to thank everyone who has followed local guidance to evacuate ahead of landfall . i to evacuate ahead of landfall. i know it's really tough leaving behind your home, your belongings, everything you own, belonging5, everything you own, but i urge everyone in hurricane milton'5 path to follow all safety instructions as we head into the next 24 hours. >> back at home, it'5 into the next 24 hours. >> back at home, it's been announced this evening that volodymyr zelen5kyy will visit downing street tomorrow as part of a tour to european nations 5eeking of a tour to european nations seeking support for ukraine'5 re5i5tance seeking support for ukraine'5 resistance against ru55ia. seeking support for ukraine'5 resistance against russia. the ukrainian pre5ident resistance against russia. the ukrainian president will meet sir keir starmer, with the prime mini5ter'5 official 5poke5man 5aying tonight that the meeting will involve broad 5trategic di5cu55ion5 will involve broad 5trategic discussions on allied 5upport discussions on allied support for ukraine. it will be the second time the world leaders meet 5ince sir keir starmer wa5 meet 5ince sir keir starmer was elected in july , and briefly to elected in july, and briefly to the middle east. now, where the israeli defence mini5ter the middle east. now, where the israeli defence minister has 15raeli defence minister has said that 15rael'5 retaliation

again5t said that 15rael'5 retaliation against iran will be lethal, preci5e against iran will be lethal, precise and surprising. the comments come as foreign secretary david lammy i5 comments come as foreign secretary david lammy is in the region where he will reiterate call5 region where he will reiterate calls for a cea5efire region where he will reiterate calls for a ceasefire in lebanon and gaza. the us president, joe biden, 5poke and gaza. the us president, joe biden, spoke with israeli pre5ident benjamin netanyahu earlier this evening and the president affirmed 15rael'5 pre5ident affirmed 15rael'5 right to protect its citizens from hezbollah. th05e right to protect its citizens from hezbollah. those are your latest gb new5 from hezbollah. those are your latest gb news headlines. for late5t gb news headlines. for now, i'm katie bowen. more from me in an hour for the very latest gb new5 direct to your late5t gb new5 direct to your 5martphone, 5ign late5t gb new5 direct to your 5martphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnew5.com forward 5la5h alert5 . 5la5h alert5. >> a load of labour mp5 think it's raci5t to control our it'5 raci5t to control our borders, 50 25 labour mp5 and border5, 50 25 labour mp5 and independent5 have written to home secretary yvette cooper to tell her that she must acknowledge the link between raci5m acknowledge the link between racism and hostile immigration

policies. they say immigration policie5. they say immigration policy and legislation has been designed to exclude and other people of colour in the uk for decades, while in london, 46.2% decade5, while in london, 46.2% of residents identify as a5ian , of residents identify as a5ian, black, mixed or other ethnic groups. and i do imagine that group5. and i do imagine that the people of birmingham, greater manchester and luton would be very 5hocked greater manchester and luton would be very shocked to find out that our immigration laws had in fact excluded people of colour. you know this is rubbish, don't you ? really? rubbi5h, don't you? really? becau5e rubbi5h, don't you? really? because all you have to do is go outside and have a look for yourself in fact, 5ince brexit, we've seen an increase in immigration from non—european non—white nation5. s0 immigration from non—european non—white nation5. so what are the racial demographic5 non—white nation5. so what are the racial demographics of people coming across the channel a5 people coming across the channel as well? and labour is now letting all of them claim a5ylum. i mean, this hard left bunch of mp5 al50 a5ylum. i mean, this hard left bunch of mp5 also appear to want the school curriculum to be drawn up along5ide racial ju5tice organi5ation5. s0 drawn up along5ide racial ju5tice organi5ation5. so what does that mean? this math5 cla55 does that mean? this math5 class has been brought to you in conjunction with black live5 matter. the mp5 include clive lewi5, matter. the mp5 include clive lewis, who prote5ted when he had to swear allegiance to the king.

>> i take this oath under prote5t >> i take this oath under protest and in the hope that one day my fellow citizens will democratically decide to live in a republic . until that time, a republic. until that time, i do 50lemnly , 5incerely and truly do 50lemnly, 5incerely and truly declare and affirm that i will be faithful and bear true allegiance to his majesty king charles. according to law . charle5. according to law. >> great dawn butler, who sees raci5m every time she open5 >> great dawn butler, who sees raci5m every time she opens her eyes but was forced to apologise actually, and certainly retract 50mething actually, and certainly retract something after accidentally including rapi5t5 and murderer5 including rapi5t5 and murderer5 in a social media p05t including rapi5t5 and murderer5 in a social media post that appeared to suggest appeared to suggest that black people were 5uperior. >> you are the wrong one, the violent one, the weird one, wherea5 violent one, the weird one, whereas 1, i am the chosen one because i am of the first ones. >> you see this skin? because i am of the first ones. >> you see this 5kin?1'm in this beautiful mahogany brown, thi5 this beautiful mahogany brown, this skin you don't like. i believe 50 why do you try 50 hard to achieve by burning your5elf hard to achieve by burning yourself in the sun? for me,

there's no diane abbott'5 climbed on board. >> to be fair, 5he climbed on board. >> to be fair, she might have struggled to add up the number of ethnic minorities that we have let into britain every single year. >> that would give us, i think, 170. how 50rry >> that would give us, i think, 170. how sorry we would find the money, we would find the money because we'd look at capital becau5e we'd look at capital gains tax. the torie5 have cut capital gains tax and we want to restore it. and that would give us, i think, 170. >> yeah. the problem is this they've written to the home secretary now to try to pre—empt the government's border security, a5ylum and immigration 5ecurity, a5ylum and immigration bill. so do you think that yvette cooper and keir starmer would rather appea5e yvette cooper and keir starmer would rather appease the people who think controlling immigration is raci5t, who think controlling immigration is racist, or people who want to actually control immigration? now, it is not raci5t to want to control your border5. and i and millions of other people are sick of being told that it is. let'5

other people are sick of being told that it is. let's get your thoughts on my panel now. the director of the popular con5ervative5, mark littlewood. we've got landlord and activist adam brooke5 and of course, as well we've got journali5t adam brooke5 and of course, as well we've got journalist and broadcaster nina my5kow. mark, broadca5ter nina my5kow. mark, i'll start with you on this. what do you make of these the5e what do you make of these these 25 mp5? they're chiming in and saying that that our immigration laws are inherently linked to raci5m. >> even worse than that , >> even worse than that, patrick, they're saying that you can't decouple immigration policy and racism. and i would say that we must decouple the two things. it's completely extraordinary. i mean, they haven't 5aid extraordinary. i mean, they haven't said this in terms , but haven't said this in terms, but one 50rt haven't said this in terms, but one sort of think5 haven't said this in terms, but one sort of thinks that what they're leaning towards i5 one sort of thinks that what they're leaning towards is the uk is about 80% cauca5ian. the world population as a whole is about 16% cauca5ian. and you sort of sense that 5ubcon5ciou5ly they think we'll be a racist country until we've got exact proportional repre5entation got exact proportional representation of the united colour5 representation of the united colours of benetton. and only

16% of people in the uk are white. it'5 16% of people in the uk are white. it's nothing to do with race. i say , let'5 white. it's nothing to do with race. i say , let's get back to race. i say, let's get back to martin luther king'5 doctrine that people should be judged by the content of their character , the content of their character, not the colour of their skin. and by the way, i wouldn't mind our immigration policy being based on that. if you judge it on the content of character and being colour—blind on the rest of it. quite. >> and adam, you know, i do wonder whether or not it's quite concerning now because they've, they've made quite a big 50ng they've made quite a big song and dance over this about writing to the home secretary. it'5 writing to the home secretary. it's the head of some, you know, 5upp05edly new immigration laws that we're, we're going to get. and i can't help but wonder whether or not our home secretary is going to be more inclined to listen to them , or inclined to listen to them, or the millions of people who actually want something done about the levels of immigration. >> and i think the home secretary will listen to them. we always said that labour wa5 we always said that labour was going to be woke and weak, and i think they're going to pander to this noise. can you imagine 5aying this noise. can you imagine saying to the leader of china, to japan or nigeria, 5aying you're raci5t, you know, you've got too many of your own kind or, you know, ethnicity in your

your country. you'd be laughed at. now why does britain everything has to be about race and colour and these, the5e mp5, all i see from them is anti—white rhetoric. a lot of the time it 50w5 divi5ion . it the time it 50w5 divi5ion. it puts race relations back decade5 put5 race relations back decades and it needs to stop what they were saying . were saying. >> well, i mean among5t were saying. >> well, i mean amongst other things, to be fair, you know , we things, to be fair, you know, we need to make sure that something like the windru5h 5candal never happens again right now. now, happen5 again right now. now, yeah, obviou5ly we do . but i yeah, obviou5ly we do. but i don't know if we can really, in all honesty, 5ay don't know if we can really, in all honesty, say that our current immigration laws are inherently raci5t . inherently raci5t. >> are they not necessarily inherently raci5t? but the windru5h 5candal inherently raci5t? but the windru5h scandal is the key to this whole thing , becau5e windru5h scandal is the key to this whole thing , because they this whole thing, because they want to make sure that nothing like that would ever happen again. and the truth is that the policies that produced the windru5h 5candal are still there, embedded in the home office. they are, they are. they haven't been. the laws haven't been changed at all or the policy ha5n't

been changed at all or the policy hasn't been changed. the report on this was was suppressed until recently. the 5uppre55ed until recently. the h05tile 5uppre55ed until recently. the hostile environment which, which which made that meant that life was made 50 imp055ible they would make people go back home. well, the trouble was these people were already home. they've been living here for 40 years. and there was an enormous 5candal . let'5 years. and there was an enormous 5candal . let's just work out. 5candal. let's just work out. can we just quickly 5ay 5candal. let's just work out. can we just quickly say what the windru5h 5candal can we just quickly say what the windru5h scandal is? becau5e windru5h scandal is? because i think everyone knows what the windru5h 5candal think everyone knows what the windru5h scandal is. i don't think they necessarily do. i mean, this is these are the people who came here on the windru5h. yeah. at the after the end of the to war help build britain up. yeah. a5 part of the commonwealth. they were then given citizen5hip commonwealth. they were then given citizenship and allowed to live and work here. >> exactly, exactly, exactly. and then and then unfortunately we ended up deporting 50me and then and then unfortunately we ended up deporting some of them wrongly . them wrongly. >> more than that, they ruined live5. >> more than that, they ruined lives. they ruined get jobs. they couldn't get medical. >> well, what'5 what'5 they couldn't get medical. >> well, what'5 what's the law? you want changed then, nina? >> i don't want a law changed. >> i don't want a law changed. >> but you're saying the same law5 >> but you're saying the same laws are still in place. so what do we need to change? >> policie5 have not. have never been revoked. are they in? >> this is the thing, though,

because, mark. look, i look at becau5e, mark. look, i look at it now. we've only deported 50mething it now. we've only deported something like 3% of channel migrant5 something like 3% of channel migrants in the last six years, 50 that doesn't seem particularly h05tile. a5 far as i can gather. i just wonder i can gather. iju5t wonder whether this is a classic attempt of people who really, if you 5cratch attempt of people who really, if you scratch the surface, fundamentally believe in open border5 fundamentally believe in open borders to use a historic wrong or an example of a wrong which has not yet been righted, right to try to influence current policy, that'5 to try to influence current policy, that's exactly it. >> s0 policy, that's exactly it. >> so the windru5h thing, i think you'd find the four of us would actually agree on what a disaster nightmare and how di5a5ter nightmare and how immoral it was. but we are now going back a few generation5. but i mean, this is a bit like saying we've got to go and fight 5aying we've got to go and fight the germans in terms of the history of it. >> there are still people who have not been compen5ated that are waiting for people to die off before they get the money, but that's not to do with a 2024 immigration policy. >> ju5tice 5hould immigration policy. >> ju5tice should be served, recompen5e 5hould >> ju5tice should be served, recompen5e should be given. but thati5 recompen5e should be given. but that is nothing to do with what our immigration policy should be here in october 2024 to new people coming in, we're not only fighting ye5terday'5 war. if we look at that as being the basis of our present immigration

policy, we're fighting a war with three generations ago. no we're not. >> we're talking about people who live here who have have recompen5e them. >> but how does that inform what our policy should be? >> the other thing they called for was for the compensation to be paid. >> the5e be paid. >> these are the same sort of mp5 that would want to go back and pay reparation5 for things that happened 300 years ago. >> i'm talking about 300 years, adam. we're talking about a few decades ago. >> let him talk at the end of the day, they're our borders and we are filling up and services are failing. you know, 50ciety are failing. you know, society is failing a5 a whole. we need to put the walls up and we need to put the walls up and we need to have 5tronger immigration laws. the dominican republic have just started ma55 deporting haitian5. are they raci5t? come on. why can every country in the world, germany, have just started deporting syrian5 and 5tarted deporting syrian5 and afghanistan from people from afghani5tan from people from afghanistan, deported people afghani5tan, deported people from afghanistan? why is there no mass 5houting from the left of them? why is it always britain? why are we always

raci5t? and it's always the5e raci5t? and it's always these type of people that want to label u5. adam, you can't talk about immigration becau5e label u5. adam, you can't talk about immigration because you're raci5t. no, i'm just a worried father that doesn't want to bnng father that doesn't want to bring kid5 father that doesn't want to bring kids up in, you know, with people that i don't know that are coming over and you don't care whether they're black, white or anything in between, right? >> yeah. same here. it is about the quantum and the type and, you know, for all of the, you know, hi5tory, you know, for all of the, you know, history, it is about what sort of immigration policy do we need today. and we've got to understand the country. the uk is a bit like joining a club. and if you want to join the club, you've got to abide by the club, you've got to abide by the club rule5. whatever your colour i5. is. >> d0 is. >> do you know, do you not think that some of the people around greater manchester, a5 that some of the people around greater manchester, as the people around birmingham, around luton and around london, would be quite 5hocked luton and around london, would be quite shocked to learn that our immigration policies had di5criminated our immigration policies had discriminated against people who were non—white , i think were non—white, i think everybody would be shocked to learn that because we absolutely did. >> we did do that and why? >> we did do that and why? >> why did it look like that around certain parts of the uk? >> s0 around certain parts of the uk? >> so you're saying that certain parts of the uk look more black

than white? >> no, that's totally true. >> no, that's totally true. >> that'5 >> no, that's totally true. >> that's a fact. and what i'm not saying, by the way, and i want to know what is wrong with that. >> no, there'5 that. >> no, there's nothing wrong with it. you know, that's not what i'm saying. my point is that it indicates that maybe we haven't been di5criminating. >> it prove5 our point, not their5. >> windru5h ha5 were people who were completely di5criminated again5t. >> that was the windru5h. >> that was the windru5h. >> ye5, >> that was the windru5h. >> yes, but that's thou5and5 , >> yes, but that's thou5and5, thou5and5 >> yes, but that's thou5and5, thousands of people. >> but that's that'5 thousands of people. >> but that's that's a that'5 >> but that's that's a that's about ju5tice >> but that's that's a that's about justice and compensation. that'5 about justice and compensation. that's not about today's immigration policy. >> becau5e immigration policy. >> because the policy, the policies are still within the framework. s0 policies are still within the framework. so that's why they're a5king framework. so that's why they're asking the framework policy. >> which policy do you want changed the policies that do that di5criminate changed the policies that do that discriminate against one against black and asian, which policie5? >> we don't well we don't. well why did they di5criminate why did they discriminate against the windru5h people. >> that'5 against the windru5h people. >> that's 60 years ago. >> that's 60 years ago. >> no, it's not 60 years ago. it is not the hostile environment policy was instituted in 2012. >> s0 policy was instituted in 2012. >> so which is the particular clau5e >> so which is the particular clause of which. >> and that's because we have got a bad immigration problem that needs to be sorted out.

>> i agree that everybody knows that. you're not very clever to say that, because everybody knows i'm not very clever to say know5 i'm not very clever to say that. but no, because one thing is this these, the5e labour mp5 are the same, under5tand5 is this these, the5e labour mp5 are the same, understands that these labour mp5 are the same the5e labour mp5 are the same mp5 that would fight brexit. >> and as you said in your monologue, brexit opened up the to world people of colour, not just, you know, preferential treatment for immigrants from the eu. the5e treatment for immigrants from the eu. these same people tried to stop brexit to make their minds up. mind5 up. >> what are we 5weeping 5tatement5 here? you can't say they're all you know. you know, you you you tout the5e they're all you know. you know, you you you tout these things as fact5, you you you tout these things as facts, but you don't know that all labour people thought that or all leftwing people, although you could see that those 25 mp5 include none or very few brexiteer5. >> s0 brexiteer5. >> so what? so it's about a world view that proves my point. >> it doesn't prove your point at all. >> it'5 at all. >> it's about a world view. >> it's about a world view. >> prove your point. and i want to go back to a point. earlier we said that they're talking again5t white people who has spoken out against white people. >> well, to be fair, dawn butler

did appear to do something which which which appeared to suggest that black people were of a superior race. now, she might 5uperior race. now, she might deny that, but some of the lyrics of the poem were like, you're the weird one, i am the chosen one. all of that stuff which, which. >> and i can have the opinion that i feel like it's anti—white rhetoric. >> well, you know, that's that'5 >> well, you know, that's that's one woman doing a kind of poetic thing. and there are, there are all sorts of well, let's just let'5 all sorts of well, let's just let's just be colour—blind and get serious about the issue, which is essentially about economic5, demographic5 which is essentially about economic5, demographics and number5. >> yeah . and what they really >> yeah. and what they really want is from what i can gather anyway, is for our current home secretary to openly acknowledge in the framing of whatever immigration or border law5 5he immigration or border law5 she is about to submit to the house of commons, that there has always been and will always be a linking to immigration laws and raci5m. >> and it's vital that yvette cooper 5tate5 exactly the opposite, that our immigration approach will be colour blind, not only decoupled from it, completely detached. >> that'5 completely detached. >> that's what they said. >> that's what they said. >> they can't be. they can't be

uncoupled. they're 5aying >> they can't be. they can't be uncoupled. they're saying they can't be uncoupled. >> it'5 can't be uncoupled. >> it's been proven. all right. >> it's been proven. all right. >> okay, well we're going to the home office report proved it. >> all right. okay. >> all right. okay. >> we will be back with you . we >> we will be back with you. we will be back with you in a few minutes time, because we're going to have all the tomorrow'5 new5paper front pages. but yes, yet again, it's time for the great british giveaway, your chance to win the equivalent of an extra three grand in your bank account every month . it'5 bank account every month. it's a whopping 36 k in tax free cash. here'5 all the details you need to make that money your5. >> this is your chance to win a £36,000 5ecret 5alary >> this is your chance to win a £36,000 5ecret salary in the latest great british giveaway. late5t great british giveaway. that'5 late5t great british giveaway. that's like having £3,000 each month for an entire year. extra ca5h month for an entire year. extra cash in your bank account that you can do whatever you like with. take a year off and keep it to yourself. you don't even need to tell the taxman, a5 it to yourself. you don't even need to tell the taxman, as it's totally tax free for another chance to win £36,000 in tax free cash. text ca5h chance to win £36,000 in tax free cash. text cash to 632321. entry c05t free cash. text cash to 632321. entry cost £2 plu5 free cash. text cash to 632321. entry cost £2 plus one standard network rate me55age entry cost £2 plus one standard network rate message or text bonu5 network rate message or text bonus to 632325 entrie5 c05t

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leader who would make the better leader? i have got a former tory mini5ter, steve baker, joining me live in the studio next and he's going to reveal for the first time who he'5 backing. stay tuned .

welcome back to patrick chri5ty5 tonight. i've got all of tomorrow's new5paper front pages tomorrow'5 new5paper front pages very shortly. but first, a bit of a shock today. jame5 cleverly wa5 of a shock today. jame5 cleverly was out of the tory leader5hip conte5t, was out of the tory leader5hip contest, which meant that kemi

badenoch and robert jenrick are left to battle it out. badenoch fini5hed left to battle it out. badenoch finished in first place with 42 votes from tory mp5. gemerek . votes from tory mp5. gemerek. well, it was a close second, wa5n't well, it was a close second, wasn't it? 41. s0 well, it was a close second, wasn't it? 41. so a rizla paper between them. but the result has sent 5hockwave5 through 5ent 5hockwave5 through we5tmin5ter. jame5 cleverly won 39 votes in comparison to jenrick'5 30 and badenoch 31. that was that was the last round of voting. but neverthele55, tory member5 of voting. but neverthele55, tory members will now have to decide between badenoch and jenrick . online voting for tory jenrick. online voting for tory member5, jenrick. online voting for tory members, i believe, open5 tomorrow. s0 members, i believe, open5 tomorrow. so the new leader will then be announced on the 2nd of november. i'm joined now by former tory mini5ter steve baken former tory mini5ter steve baker. now, steve, you've you've kept your powder dry on telly 50 far, haven't you? you've kept your cards cl05e far, haven't you? you've kept your cards close to your chest. but who are you going to back? >> i shall vote for kemi and with a good heart too. why? because 5he'5 authentic and becau5e 5he'5 authentic and she's got a ferocious pa55ion she's got a ferocious passion for what she believes. s0 for what she believes. so i think for a long time the conservative party'5 been all con5ervative party'5 been all over the place because it's kind of lacked an intellectual keel.

it'5 forgotten what it believed and sort of followed poll5 rather than trying to lead them . rather than trying to lead them. and what kemi doe5 rather than trying to lead them. and what kemi does is she truly believe5 and what kemi does is she truly believes in con5ervative idea5, believes in con5ervative ideas, and she 5he argue5 believes in con5ervative ideas, and she 5he argues for them with great pa55ion . and it's that great pa55ion. and it's that authenticity which for me tell5, tell5 authenticity which for me tell5, tells me it should be. kemi. >> what robert jenrick certainly want5 >> what robert jenrick certainly wants to make this about and it may well turn out to be this way, is essentially a decision for the tory member5hip over whether or not they want to leave the echr. >> well, yeah, but that's a couple of things about that. first, the uk leaving the echr i5 first, the uk leaving the echr is not itself the policy objective. the policy objective is to control immigration and in particular illegal migration. now, we might need to leave the echr, but the other european nafion5 echr, but the other european nations who are convention nation5 who are convention member5 nation5 who are convention members have got 5imilar members have got similar problems, particularly italy, for example, with people coming across the med. s0 for example, with people coming across the med. so it ought to be possible to renegotiate. and let me tell you, as somebody who'5 let me tell you, as somebody who's been a northern ireland office mini5ter, we would have very considerable political difficultie5, even if we could navigate the legal difficultie5 navigate the legal difficulties of extricating the convention

from the belfast good friday agreement. s0 from the belfast good friday agreement. so it's not trivial to do it. but also the other point is, in five years of a labour government, i'd be very surprised if the echr i5 labour government, i'd be very surprised if the echr is still the biggest issue when we go into the next general election. >> quite possibly. quite possibly, ye5. >> quite possibly. quite possibly, yes. but where is kemi p055ibly, yes. but where is kemi when it comes to immigration in general? becau5e when it comes to immigration in general? because i do believe that she was quite happy with our actual immigration level5 that she was quite happy with our actual immigration levels as of a year or 50 ago, wa5n't 5he? >> well, i think you'll find that if kemi win5, 5he control5 migration. the idea that anyone could lead the conservative party into a general election without pledging to control migration and get the numbers down, that is fanciful. >> unle55 down, that is fanciful. >> unless you were pledging, pledging that when you were in office. steve. >> yeah, well, con5ervative partie5 cried wolf for too long, and that is one of the problems that we've had. that'5 and that is one of the problems that we've had. that's one of the reasons why we earned the hiding that the electorate gave us. so yeah, you're ab50lutely us. so yeah, you're absolutely right. it's got to be sorted out andif5 right. it's got to be sorted out and it's going to be a long journey, a tough journey to persuade the public that this time we're going to get number5 down. >> look, i can see the appeal 100% by the way, of keir starmer having to stand at the de5patch

box opp05ite kemi badenoch every wednesday and her kind of, you know, 5itting him on her knee and knocking him around a little bit. i think most people would quite enjoy seeing that in the way that she's done with angela raynen way that she's done with angela rayner, etc. a concern, p055ibly rayner, etc. a concern, possibly for kemi badenoch, i5 rayner, etc. a concern, possibly for kemi badenoch, is that maybe 50metime5 for kemi badenoch, is that maybe sometimes she puts her foot in it a little bit. we had the maternity pay comment5, didn't we, at a conference. i know she feels they were mi5repre5ented, but the point was that for the next couple of days, it was all about that in the media. d0 next couple of days, it was all about that in the media. do you really want another leader where they come out and they say something and then you end up cleaning up after them? >> no, you don't want that. obviou5ly >> no, you don't want that. obviously you don't want that. but that's a choice that she it'5 but that's a choice that she it's a choice for her to deal with that. i mean, we all have to engage brain before we speak. and in an interview like this, obviou5ly it'5 and in an interview like this, obviou5ly it's a dynamic conver5ation. and i'm sitting here all the time thinking, what do i do? i really want to say that do i want what you know? and you've just you've just got to manage what'5 and you've just you've just got to manage what's going on in your brain and make sure that you're only taking on fight5 your brain and make sure that you're only taking on fights for which you're well prepared and that's obviou5ly what went wrong that'5 obviou5ly what went wrong with the maternity pay . and that

with the maternity pay. and that to me. yes, of course, you've got to be able to communicate well, but that to me is a problem that can be dealt with. but it's a choice for her to just decide that she's not going ju5t decide that she's not going to do that anymore. but the thing for me that the thing you can't fix in a politician i5 can't fix in a politician is true belief. you know, they say there's two kinds of politicians. the wind50ck5, who believe whatever they need to believe, depending which way the wind is blowing and the 5ignp05t5. and she's a 5ignp05t. s0 5ignp05t5. and she's a 5ignp05t. so you read between the lines there, steve, you don't entirely believe everything that robert jenrick 5ay5 believe everything that robert jenrick says now, because he's he he would deny thi5, jenrick says now, because he's he he would deny this, but i suppose you could argue that he's had a slight tran5formation, i he's had a slight transformation, 1 think i think, in fact, i kind i think i think, in fact, i kind of know, having 5poken i think i think, in fact, i kind of know, having spoken to him, i think his angle really is that he's kind of cry5talli5ed by he'5 kind of cry5talli5ed by actually being in the home office and seeing 5eeing actually being in the home office and seeing seeing the scale of the problem . well, i scale of the problem. well, i would take robert at face value. he'5 would take robert at face value. he's a good man and i'd take what he says in good faith. and i've obviou5ly known him since he was elected, and i hope i haven't ever had a bad word to say about him. but i mean, obviou5ly it'5 say about him. but i mean, obviou5ly it's true that this observation that he has shifted hi5 observation that he has shifted his position. but equally, if you can't in life learn

something and move what you believe, then really you're not on a journey like anyone ought to be. so, you know, i think i'll forgive 50mebody changing their views. but the thing for me, i have watched cl05ely their views. but the thing for me, i have watched closely for 14 years as tory leader5 really haven't believed, with enough 50rt haven't believed, with enough sort of conviction, what they were doing. and the result is that the ship of state get5 t055ed about. so for me, kemi i5 t055ed about. so for me, kemi is a true believer in solid con5ervative principle5. somebody who wants renewal . somebody who wants renewal. she'5 somebody who wants renewal. she's the person for me and i will back her wholeheartedly . will back her wholeheartedly. >> doe5 will back her wholeheartedly. >> does she win voter5 back from reform? becau5e >> does she win voter5 back from reform? because that's a big i55ue. >> well , 5he'll i55ue. >> well , she'll have to, but >> well, she'll have to, but 5he'll >> well, she'll have to, but she'll have to do more than that. she'll have to win back con5ervative voter5 that. she'll have to win back con5ervative voters who went to the lib dems or went to labour in 50mewhere the lib dems or went to labour in somewhere like wickham. you know, alm05t in somewhere like wickham. you know, almost half of my previous voter5, con5ervative, previou5 voter5, con5ervative, previou5 voter5 5tayed voter5, con5ervative, previou5 voter5 stayed at home in di5illu5ionment. yeah, that's a problem. and you know , people problem. and you know, people have got to come out. they've got to come back from the lib dems. it'5 got to come back from the lib dems. it's a it's a very, very dem5. it's a it's a very, very steep and tough road very quickly, very finally on this. >> and you said if you lost, which unfortunately you did. sorry about that . but you, you sorry about that. but you, you would spend your days 5kydiving .

would spend your days 5kydiving. >> i think motorcycling fa5t catamaran 5ailing. >> yeah, yeah. truth is quite the best response. to be fair, you kept it pg. but how are you getting on with all of that? >> well, i can't go 5kydiving becau5e >> well, i can't go 5kydiving because i've had the covid 100 day cough and if i adopt the position, i start coughing. s0 position, i start coughing. so i haven't 5kydived, but i've fidden haven't 5kydived, but i've ridden my motorcycle around scotland with one friend and wales with another. i'm having a good time. i'm starting a company, i'm 5igning good time. i'm starting a company, i'm signing up to another one. so i'm having a good life. >> good stuff. well great to see you and all the best. i hope to see you again. very , very soon. see you again. very, very soon. thati5 see you again. very, very soon. that is steve baker there. right. well, on this note, gb new5 right. well, on this note, gb news will be hosting a live debate with the final two tory candidate5. it'5 kemi badenoch. it'5 robert jenrick. it'5 candidate5. it'5 kemi badenoch. it'5 robert jenrick. it's as it stands, 1 it'5 robert jenrick. it's as it stands, i believe the only televi5ed stands, i believe the only televised debate between these two, and it's going to be on the 17th of october at 7:00 pm. i'm going to be watching that debate with my very own audience right here in the studio. and i would like you to come and join me. so go to w ww, dot sro audience5 dot com to sign up. i'm going to get reaction after the debate from a panel of political

heavyweight5. i'm yet to ask steve, but maybe i will when we go to an advert break and my own 5uper5tar panelli5t5 a5 go to an advert break and my own 5uper5tar panelli5t5 as well alli50n pear50n, lord bailey and matthew laza, you can be a part of all of that. so come on, go and get your tickets now before they sell out. but coming up, we're going to have all of the front pages for tomorrow. i'll bnng front pages for tomorrow. i'll bring you them next. and million5 bring you them next. and millions of evacuated a5 hurricane milton i5 hurtling toward5 florida. one man, who's been nicknamed lieutenant dan, is refusing to go. >> god told me to come out here and get a boat. i came out here and get a boat. i came out here and got a boat and everything they've been telling me over the last two days is i'm doing the right thing. he'5 last two days is i'm doing the right thing. he's got my back. i'm in good shape. i ain't 5weating it. >> i've an update from dan to bring you in a couple

welcome back to patrick chri5ty5 tonight. and i've got the very first look at tomorrow'5 new5paper front pages. so here they are. the metro tory fight veer5 to the right leader5hip

conte5t. shock. they say we've 5poken conte5t. shock. they say we've spoken about that. it's going to be a close run thing. now between robert jenrick and kemi badenoch and the i between robert jenrick and kemi badenoch and the 1 workers get right to flexible working . under right to flexible working. under new rayner law, employer5 right to flexible working. under new rayner law, employers must give one of eight rea50n5 new rayner law, employers must give one of eight reasons for refusing to allow them, i believe, to work from home more. i think it is essentially a flexible working can include 5tarting later or allow for taking children to school as well. other childcare rea50n5 . well. other childcare rea50n5. s0 well. other childcare rea50n5. so there we go. let'5 well. other childcare rea50n5. so there we go. let's go to the daily express now . winter fuel daily express now. winter fuel pen5ioner5 now face a tax raid. pen5ioner5 are going to lose the winter fuel payment5, pen5ioner5 are going to lose the winter fuel payments, and they're also going to be apparently an extra 120,000 people being hit with tax demand5 people being hit with tax demands for the first time, as this is a freeze in the amount of income allowed before the tax man claw5 the cash away. so more retiree5 man claw5 the cash away. so more retirees are going to be clobbered with this. it's a never ending whammy for pen5ioner5. the guardian pm'5 vow to end au5terity need5 pen5ioner5. the guardian pm'5 vow to end au5terity needs a £25 billion tax ri5e. s0 vow to end au5terity needs a £25 billion tax ri5e. so you know ,

billion tax ri5e. so you know, here we go. oh, what'5 billion tax ri5e. so you know, here we go. oh, what's on the telegraph? same thing . £25 telegraph? same thing. £25 billion tax ri5e. pain is on the way. that's what the if5 i5 . way. that's what the if5 i5. warning the institute for fiscal studies. i mean , it'5 warning the institute for fiscal studies. i mean , it's hard to studies. i mean, it's hard to see how they do all of this without hiking taxe5 see how they do all of this without hiking taxes to be honest. but there we go. let'5 hone5t. but there we go. let's go to the sun. they're going to round u5 go to the sun. they're going to round us off with cooper, admit5 wembley. jolly 5wift gate, home 5ecretarie5 free gig after pressing for vip police e5cort. look, we spoke about this at 9:00, 50 if you're just joining us, i'll. 9:00, 50 if you're just joining u5,1'll. i'll fill 9:00, 50 if you're just joining us, i'll. i'll fill you 9:00, 50 if you're just joining u5,1'll. i'll fill you in on it a bit. but the home secretary went to watch taylor swift for free because her husband had ball5. got free tickets from taylor swift'5 mu5ic label on the day that yvette cooper went to watch taylor swift, it is reported that taylor swift got a taxpayer funded police e5cort thati5 taxpayer funded police e5cort that is normally re5erved taxpayer funded police e5cort that is normally reserved for the likes of the royal family , the likes of the royal family, etc. it's not a great look . it etc. it's not a great look. it is, of course, denied that there was any wrongdoing in all of

that. but again, it's not a great look and i am going to introduce my panel again here onto this. now, i think we should start to be honest with you. it's kind of all rolled into one, the £25 billion tax ri5e. but also what'5 into one, the £25 billion tax ri5e. but also what's on the front of the express, which is winter fuel pen5ioner5 now face tax raid. s0 winter fuel pen5ioner5 now face tax raid. so when keir starmer 5aid tax raid. so when keir starmer said during the election when he wasn't telling us what his dad wa5n't telling us what his dad u5ed wa5n't telling us what his dad used to do, he was saying i won't tax working people . i won't tax working people. i actually now just think whether or not he should have just said i am going to grind pen5ioner5 into the dirt. >> well, i mean, they 50rt into the dirt. >> well, i mean, they sort of go arm in arm, don't they? once politician5 of any 5tripe rule out, i'm not going to tax a, b or c, you pretty much know they are going to tax d and f. it'5 are going to tax d and f. it's worth pointing out though, here on the. my understanding i haven't read the express, but the issue here is that people on the issue here is that people on the state pension are being dragged into paying income tax. and that is true because we've frozen the threshold. s0 and that is true because we've frozen the threshold. so it's about 12,500 pounds a year there or thereabout5. you start paying

income tax. well, if you do keep the triple lock on state pen5ion5, eventually more and more people are going to get dragged into that band. s0 more people are going to get dragged into that band. so it's in part a reflection that the state pension ha5 in part a reflection that the state pension has become more and more generous. but tying that in with the 25 billion, patrick, you said , well, you patrick, you said, well, you know, god only knows how they balance the books without this tax rate. i still think we're looking at the problem down the wrong end of the telescope. pubuc wrong end of the telescope. public 5pending wrong end of the telescope. public spending is out of control. it is unsustainable. yeah . tax is probably can't go yeah. tax is probably can't go up much more. this tax rate will probably 5care off as much economic activity as it will tax. and that is a huge problem. and labour actually politician5 of all 5tripe5 have got to be honest. we've got to get hone5t. we've got to get 5pending down when we go into a bit of detail on this and i'll put this to you, adam. >> s0 put this to you, adam. >> so the institute for fiscal studies, the ifs, ha5 >> so the institute for fiscal studies, the ifs, has said that the chancellor's pledge to protect government spending meant that she was on course for a tax rai5ing budget that could 5urpa55 a tax rai5ing budget that could surpass the p05t—election raid5 launched by both gordon brown in

1997 and george osborne in 2010. this is 5tark. they've warned that it would push the tax burden up to 37.9%, it5 that it would push the tax burden up to 37.9%, its highest 5hare burden up to 37.9%, its highest share in peacetime. that'5 a5toni5hing, i5n't share in peacetime. that'5 a5toni5hing, isn't it? >> it is astonishing, and it's worrying becau5e, again, when i speak to people, they are 50 negative about the future of this country . negative about the future of this country. now we negative about the future of this country . now we need to this country. now we need to grow our way out of the problem and the hole that we're in. all that labour are going to do is dig u5 that labour are going to do is dig us further. targeting the pen5ioner5 . it'5 unforgivable. pen5ioner5. it'5 unforgivable. there'5 50 many worried out there. again, if we'd known this before the election, they wouldn't have got the landslide that they got. s0 wouldn't have got the landslide that they got. so they really were really lying to us pre—election. >> there'5 pre—election. >> there's another there'5 >> there's another there's another thing buried in this as well, which i've just seen now. so rachel reeve5 i5 well, which i've just seen now. so rachel reeve5 is expected to s0 rachel reeve5 is expected to announce yet a tax hike on

pen5ion5 , capital gains and pen5ion5, capital gains and inheritance tax as well. i mean, nina, if they'd have said they were going to do this when they got elected, that they wouldn't they wouldn't have been elected dunng they wouldn't have been elected during the election campaign. >> they would have been elected becau5e >> they would have been elected because nobody was going to elect re—elect the tories. the torie5 have made such a complete me55 torie5 have made such a complete mess of everything. and the reason all this pain is going to rea50n all this pain is going to be inflicted. if all that's true, this is 5upp05ition. thi5 true, this is 5upp05ition. this is not fact, this is 5upp05ition. people are theori5ing about how they're going to do this. >> well, the institute for fiscal studies, which is quite good. but it's not just me. >> that'5 their job. they've got to come up with a good guess. but it's still a guess, i5n't to come up with a good guess. but it's still a guess, isn't it? i bet they do. well, you can bet all you like, but nobody knows until the until rachel reeve5 5tand5 there and says, this is what's going to happen. and the point being that that all of this has been caused by the last 14 years because there is no you're right about growth. of course we need growth. but how come there was no growth under the under the tories? thi5 come there was no growth under the under the tories? this is just ridiculou5 the under the tories? this is just ridiculous to blame ju5t ridiculous to blame everything on labour. yeah, they have got to sort the mess out. >> part of the reason there was

no growth under the tories, nina. and i'd say this as a member of the conservative party is the conservatives 5pent too much and taxed too much. and if you have col055al government spending going up and up and up 5pending going up and up and up and tax is going up as they did under the conservative government, you are unlikely to get growth. now. the labour party, the labour party has looked at this failed 5trategy looked at this failed strategy and has decided to double down on it. we don't know that yet. all right. we're 5peculating on the basis of this newspaper 5tory, the basis of this newspaper story, but i will bet you any money you want that taxes will go money you want that taxes will 9° up money you want that taxes will go up and spending will go up. and that was the great failure of 14 years of conservative government. >> how else would you do it then? >> i'd go 5pending down. >> i'd go 5pending down. >> well, how would you do that? >> well, how would you do that? >> what would you cut your spending on the welfare budget at £230 billion is kwa5i of the welfare budget. >> the pen5ioner5? i'd 5ack about 100,000 civilian5. >> the triple lock on pen5ion5. >> the triple lock on pen5ion5. >> there you go then. that'5 >> there you go then. that's interesting, i5n't >> there you go then. that's interesting, isn't it? intere5ting, isn't it? >> yeah. i would end the triple lock on pen5ion5. okay. >> and taking money out of my pocket by saying that. >> well yes, we've got to get

5pending down. you can't just say that as a wish. you've got to start to say the poor old pen5ioner5. >> let'5 pen5ioner5. >> let's bring out our violin5 >> let's bring out our violins and then say i'm >> let's bring out our violins and then 5ay1'm going to >> let's bring out our violins and then say i'm going to cut the. >> i didn't say that. i didn't say that you didn't. >> i'm paraphra5ing. >> i'm paraphra5ing. >> we've got to have a serious di5cu55ion >> we've got to have a serious discussion about how the £12 trillion that the government 5pend5 every year is cut to something like a trillion. now we can argue about to where prioriti5e for the disabled. >> are you going to cut back? >> are you going to cut back? >> i'm not present. you were just saying that rachel reeve5 ha5 just saying that rachel reeve5 has got. i'm not pre5enting just saying that rachel reeve5 has got. i'm not presenting a budget. we need to agree. we need to save about 200 billion 50me need to save about 200 billion some way or other. >> can i just bring him into >> can iju5t bring him into this because. becau5e >> can iju5t bring him into this because. because if when i look at things like this, iju5t think load5 look at things like this, iju5t think loads of people are going to leave the uk. oh, god. >> you know, i would leave the uk if i had the funds and the ability to take my three kids out, not just for safety, becau5e out, not just for safety, because i think this country is going downhill fa5t under under this regime. now, the thing is, what worrie5 this regime. now, the thing is, what worries me, this these tax hike5 what worries me, this these tax hikes and this doom and gloom from this budget that is going to hit very soon, i5 from this budget that is going to hit very soon, is going to hit con5umer

to hit very soon, is going to hit consumer confidence that means people are not going to mean5 people are not going to come to the pub and spend their money. they're not going to go to the shops and spend their money. we are going downhill very fast and you're going to see a lot of bankruptcie5, a lot of in50lvencie5 in the early part of next year and this is going to get very, very me55y happening under the conservatives guy5. con5ervative5 guy5. >> we are con5ervative5 for years now. >> we're going to have to get on because becau5e important stuff, becau5e becau5e important stuff, thi5 becau5e becau5e important stuff, this important stuff. we're going to go now acr055 this important stuff. we're going to go now across the pond to florida. hurricane milton i5 to florida. hurricane milton is expected to be the biggest hurricane in a century. it'5 hurtling toward5 florida. million5 hurtling toward5 florida. millions of residents have evacuated. they're bracing for the worst, and it's 5upp05edly going to hit landfall in under two hours time. but one man is refusing to leave. meet lieutenant dan. >> god told me to come out here and get a boat. i came out here and get a boat. i came out here and got a boat and everything they've been telling me over the last two days is i'm doing the right thing. he'5 last two days is i'm doing the right thing. he's got my back. i'm in good shape. i ain't 5weating it. >> s0 5weating it. >> so he's on a boat in tampa

harbour and people thought he would just leave once it got really bad, but he hasn't. he'5 really bad, but he hasn't. he's still there tonight, dad. we need an interview. >> there he is. there's our guy. oh, look at him i yayi oh, look at him! yayi >> how oh, look at him! yay! >> how are we doing? get the. get the people an update. >> s0 get the people an update. >> so far, 50 good. we're 5taying >> so far, 50 good. we're staying on this side of the pole, but it's actually still low tide. if you. >> he says it's still low tide when it's in three hours. high tide . but his when it's in three hours. high tide. but his boat when it's in three hours. high tide . but his boat is on the concrete. >> let'5 concrete. >> let's just show you some live image5 >> let's just show you some live images that we've got at the moment from florida. oh, well, i'll tell you what. i'm in florida as well. look at me. look at that. oh , there we go. look at that. oh, there we go. all right. okay, 50 that is that is florida. there , which is in i5 florida. there, which is in clearwater, florida, or sara50ta, clearwater, florida, or sarasota, florida. there we are. and i mean , look, it's well, and i mean, look, it's well, it's 5upp05edly going to get it'5 5upp05edly going to get a heck of a lot worse than that. guy5. what do you reckon to lieutenant dan there. ha5 guy5. what do you reckon to lieutenant dan there. has he been a bit 5elfi5h? someone might have to come and rescue him. >> yeah, i think he is. look,

each to their own. i'm a live and let live kind of person. but it seems to me that the guidance and the prediction is pretty clear here. and you are being foolhardy, i think to behave in this fashion and, you know, there is an expense on other people. you're not just you're not just taking that risk your5elf. not just taking that risk yourself. so, you know, i sort of in some ways admire the bravery, but it seems to me 5heer folly a5 bravery, but it seems to me 5heer folly as well. >> stupidity that that is having a death wi5h >> stupidity that that is having a death wish that boat could end up three miles inland by tomorrow. >> yeah. not not a fan of lieutenant dan. look, we're gonna have to take this break becau5e gonna have to take this break because i've got to. we've got to bring you the rest of tomorrow's new5paper front pages tomorrow'5 new5paper front pages and reveal greate5t britain and jacka55. >> s0 tuned.

okay. welcome back. look, ju5t okay. welcome back. look, just before i get to the last couple of newspapers, there was obviously a little bit of

confusion ju5t obviously a little bit of confusion just before we went to confu5ion just before we went to the break there. we were hoping to speak to someone who is in florida, live about the nature of the hurricane that'5 hitting there. and we also were due to have a couple of live feeds. well, unfortunately, the live feeds appear to have gone down. feed5 appear to have gone down. this is as that hurricane i5 this is as that hurricane is hitting land and unfortunately we couldn't actually get through any more to the person we were hoping to talk to. s0 any more to the person we were hoping to talk to. so we do hope that they're okay. but it does appear that things are indeed very, very serious in florida. s0 very, very serious in florida. so we'll bring you more updates as we get it. and let's just go to the last couple of papers now, the times threat of £25 billion tax bomb after reeve5 vow. well, we've 5poken billion tax bomb after reeve5 vow. well, we've spoken about this already. the yvette cooper freebie for taylor swift, of course, is also leading the way there. the daily mail bu5ine55 fury a5 labour'5 revolution for workers. this is essentially making it easier, well, for workers to sue for unfair dismissal from day one. flexible di5mi55al from day one. flexible working to be default for all a red tape nightmare, they say that will kill job5. s0 red tape nightmare, they say that will kill job5. so much for starmer'5 growth agenda. 1 mean, look, it does appear at face

value to favour people who, you know, would be quite keen to sit on their back5ide and do as little work as possible all day. but anyway. right, we're going to go straight to great britain and union, jacka55. now who'5 and union, jacka55. now who's your greate5t britain, plea5e. >> it'5 collective. britain'5 millionaire5 . i think we don't millionaire5. i think we don't prai5e our millionaire5 enough. we've talked about all of this sort of tax black hole. all of the rest of it. how are we going to finance public services? we gear our tax p05ition to finance public services? we gear our tax position to take as much as possible from the rich. unfortunately , millionaire5 are unfortunately, millionaire5 are now fleeing britain at a faster rate than any other country in the world, bar china. let'5 actually give them a bit of praise and let's try and attract more of them to britain. >> i am not a millionaire and probably never will be, but what i will say is, it seems quite perver5e that we say we demand 50 much money from them, and then treat them like ab50lute dirt. we need more. >> we need more of them. >> we need more of them. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> all right, go on then. mine is paul staine5, aka guido fawke5 on x for his relentle55 pur5uit fawke5 on x for his relentle55 pursuit of the truth with starmer and the penthouse arrangement5 . starmer and the penthouse arrangement5. he'5 starmer and the penthouse arrangement5. he's going starmer and the penthouse

arrangement5 . he's going nowhere arrangement5. he's going nowhere and i think there's more to come out. >> oh, okay. all right then, nina, who'5 >> oh, okay. all right then, nina, who's your greatest briton? >> john lennon. today would have been his 84th birthday. and we should always celebrate the fact that we had such a musical geniu5 that we produced and an advocate for peace and even if his life was cut short and yoko ono'5 imagine peace tower of light will be lit in the bay in iceland and dedicated to john. it'5 iceland and dedicated to john. it's been going for 17 years. it's been going for 17 years. it's lit every night on this it'5 lit every night on this day, every year, and i went to the installation of it, invited by yoko. >> s0 by yoko. >> so you're a friend of yoko? >> so you're a friend of yoko? >> i'm on the christmas card li5t. >> i'm on the christmas card list. yes, you're on yoko'5 chri5tma5 list. yes, you're on yoko'5 christmas card li5t. christmas card list. >> you've been to south america with freddie mercury, and you've. you're on yoko ono'5 chri5tma5 you've. you're on yoko ono'5 christmas card. >> and i'm stuck on the sofa with. >> i was just about to say this. >> i was just about to say this. >> how the mighty have fallen. how the mighty have fallen. >> you know what i yeah, we've got, we've got. i need to pull a few favour5 with you . right. few favour5 with you. right. okay. today'5 winner of the greatest britain , guido fawke5. greate5t britain, guido fawke5. i think . why not? hey. well done

i think. why not? hey. well done guido. okay , who'5 i think. why not? hey. well done guido. okay , who's your union? guido. okay, who's your union? jacka55? plea5e. >> bridget phillip50n, education secretary. another 50rt >> bridget phillip50n, education secretary. another sort of twinge of hypocrisy here. she was playing hockey on a5troturf while 5aying was playing hockey on a5troturf while saying that actually, private schools don't need any a5troturf . but she's also a5troturf. but she's also leading the charge against private schools . again, going to private schools. again, going to trying to get public spending down. we need more people like adam to keep his kids in private school, not to put them in the state 5ector. she'5 school, not to put them in the state 5ector. she's my villain 5tate 5ector. she's my villain of the week. >> all right, go on then. mine is rachel reeve5 for her i5 rachel reeve5 for her unforgivable attack on pen5ioner5 5ince unforgivable attack on pen5ioner5 since the election. and it's only going to get w0 i'se. woi'se. >> w0r5e. >> well, it sounds like it is only going to get worse. >> nina, the two wagatha chri5tie idiot5, coleen rooney and rebekah vardy. yeah, which shows what happens when you have too much money and not enough brain5 too much money and not enough brains and mix that with inflated eg05. and they do women no favour5 . no favour5. >> s0 no favour5. >> so i might 5hock people with this . in my defence, i have, this. in my defence, i have, i think, gone for both bridget phillip50n and rachel reeve5. probably at least five times each in the last. in the last

few weeks , and i back that few weeks, and i back that de5ervedly 50. i could have very easily have gone for them again tonight. but i do think this wagatha chri5tie thing that ma55ively get5 wagatha chri5tie thing that ma55ively gets on my proverbial5, you know, the idea, the legal bill5, the cost, the time, the effort for no minibar5 for nothing, for no reason. s0 two wag5 can just go at each other in a court. hone5tly, ju5t other in a court. hone5tly, just let it go. it's pathetic . let it go. it's pathetic. >> but also, if footballer5 weren't paid 5uch ludicrou5ly grote5que 5alarie5, thi5 weren't paid 5uch ludicrou5ly grote5que 5alarie5, this would never happen or generate that money. >> they do generate . they'll be >> they do generate. they'll be fleeing the country too. >> s0 fleeing the country too. >> so let's be honest, wayne rooney, you know, can no longer tell his mi55u5 to not do stuff like this on account of the fact that he's no doubt 5till like this on account of the fact that he's no doubt still very sorry about a load of other stuff. right? okay. well done 5tuff. right? okay. well done everybody. thank you very much. i've had a great show this evening. i've thoroughly enjoyed it. i will see you tomorrow at 9 pm. p.m. >> expect a warm front moving from the kitchen right through to the rest of the house. boxt boiler5 5p0n50r5

to the rest of the house. boxt boiler5 sponsors of weather on gb new5. gb news. >> good evening. i'm here with your gb new5 weather from the met office as we go through into tomorrow, it is going to turn dner tomorrow, it is going to turn drier for many of us with some clearer or brighter 5kie5. but with that , it is also going to with that, it is also going to be a bit chillier becau5e with that, it is also going to be a bit chillier because as the low pressure that'5 be a bit chillier because as the low pressure that's been dominating the weather acr055 dominating the weather across the uk recently drift5 away toward5 the uk recently drift5 away towards the east, we will then get a northerly flow and that northerly air is going to bring something a little bit colder for the time being, though , for the time being, though, still some clouds, 50me outbreak5 still some clouds, 50me outbreaks of rain acr055 still some clouds, 50me outbreaks of rain across many parts of england and wales. all of this, though 5hifting further 50uthward5 with clearer 5kie5 developing acr055 50uthward5 with clearer 5kie5 developing across scotland, northern england and northern ireland. and under these clearer 5kie5, temperature5 ireland. and under these clearer 5kie5, temperatures are going to take a bit of a drop. turning pretty chilly could be a touch of frost in some places. a milder night, though acr055 of frost in some places. a milder night, though across the south here it is going to be a 50uth here it is going to be a cloudier 5tart 50uth here it is going to be a cloudier start to tomorrow morning. there will be some outbreak5 morning. there will be some outbreaks of rain. could be the odd heavier bur5t, but most of this will clear through as we go through the morning for central park5. thing5 brightening up

quite quickly and also some decent bright sunny weather acr055 part5 decent bright sunny weather acr055 parts of northern ireland, northern england and scotland. but all the time there will be some 5hower5 around . the will be some 5hower5 around. the 5hower5 will be most likely in areas exp05ed 5hower5 will be most likely in areas exposed to that northerly area5 exposed to that northerly wind, 50 parts of northern ireland, northern scotland and down the eastern side of england and scotland as well. but even a few 5hower5 and scotland as well. but even a few showers are possible el5ewhere. few showers are possible elsewhere. we may see 1 or 2 5hower5 developing in some inland place5 too, but for many it is going to be a much drier day than the last couple of days, and it's going to be a bit brighter. but like i said, we do have that cold air pu5hing it5 have that cold air pu5hing its way in, 50 temperature5 markedly lower and feeling pretty cold indeed, e5pecially lower and feeling pretty cold indeed, especially in those bri5k northerly wind5. a5 we go towards the end of the week and a bit of a north south 5plit, developing wetter weather acr055 northern parts of scotland, 5eeing northern parts of scotland, seeing some outbreak5 northern parts of scotland, seeing some outbreaks of rain, perhap5 seeing some outbreaks of rain, perhaps some wintrine55 over the higher ground, 5taying drier and brighter acr055 higher ground, 5taying drier and brighter across the southern two thirds of the uk. however, again through the weekend, 50me thirds of the uk. however, again through the weekend, some rain is likely, mainly in the north. i'll see you again soon. bye bye .

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gb new5. gb news. >> very good evening to you. i'm katie bowen and these are your latest headlines from the gb newsroom. tory mp5 have now selected the final two

candidates in the conservative leadership election, with kemi badenoch and robert jenrick making it through to the members vote. kemi badenoch received 42 votes. robert jenrick picked up 41 and james cleverly received 37, meaning he has now been eliminated from the race. in a tweet, cleverly has thanked his colleagues , party members and colleagues, party members and the public for their support. gb news political editor christopher hope spoke to robert jenrick earlier on a very specific plan as to how we do that, whether it's improving the nhs, getting growth, going again in our economy or yes, securing our borders. >> i don't believe in platitudes. i want us to have a serious plan now as to how we move forward and get this party back into gear for the good of our country. >> well, jenrick'5 rival kemi badenoch, had this to say a short while later. >> it doesn't matter . people are >> it doesn't matter. people are heanng >> it doesn't matter. people are hearing what i'm saying and they think my approach is right. that you start with principles first and then policy. we need to unite behind a real conservatism that means something to the country .

country. >> and you can watch the