of what you said in terms of it should be people's choice. you shouldn't be told, have this jab or you lose your benefits. but then again, we were told that about the covid, weren't we.7 we about the covid, weren't we? we didn't really know much about that. so. so for me, i lost 12 stone, £4. i was enormous, the size of an elephant, a big fat bed for 22 years i was injecting insulin for 18 years, three times a day. now it's easy for us all to say, get off the couch, go running. when you're enormous. you don't want to be seen running around the block jogging, seen running around the block jogging, because that makes your mental health even worse, right? so it's a spiral and you do eat. i eat a lot healthier. but all this thing, all the things we say about spending money on education, let's be honest, you all know the difference between all know the difference between a salad and a burger. we all know it. i mean, it's really

insulting to talk to the working classes as if they're thick. i think this is an opportunity thatis think this is an opportunity that is incredible . and, you that is incredible. and, you know, i don't really know where they stand about moving the economy. but if it gives people confidence , gives them an edge, confidence, gives them an edge, gives them, you know, healthy lifestyle choices to get back on track . i get a good thing. track. i get a good thing. >> i get that . the thing i >> i get that. the thing i absolutely agree with you on is this this notion that if we just if we just clone jamie oliver and send him into every school, then the world would be fine. you know, it's ridiculous. but suzanne, i do wonder. i do wonder if this rewards laziness. like so instead of, you know. yeah, encouraging motivation . yeah, encouraging motivation. >> people are lazy. >> people are lazy. >> no, but some of them are . no, >> no, but some of them are. no, but some of them are. tina, come on, that's not. it's not controversial. tina, i'm not going to have you suggesting it's controversial to say that some fat people are lazy. all right. >> aren't lazy. some some mental health issues. i've done everything in abundance. all right. >> yeah. okay, fine. again , i >> yeah. okay, fine. again, i will emphasise not talking about

all suzanne does it, does it, doesit all suzanne does it, does it, does it disincentivize people from taking matters into their own hands and working out themselves? you know, do they think it might encourage an overreliance on the taxpayer? suzanne. >> no, i don't think it does. and i'm sorry , patrick, as much and i'm sorry, patrick, as much as i respect you, i don't think you know it is the case. i think there is this stereotype about fat people being lazy, and that simply isn't true. actually, there are a lot of very skinny people who are lazy too. i mean, people who are lazy too. i mean, people with different personalities. let's let's be honest about that. but my worry is also, you know, we're talking about a four day difference here in time taken off work. when you put that into a larger perspective, four days isn't actually that much. it's four days. really a serious enough issue to try and tell overweight people to have these jabs, which, as i've already said, have serious side effects, which let's be honest, are going to make you sick, potentially , and make you sick, potentially, and make you sick, potentially, and make you sick, potentially, and make you take even more days. >> i think it was more i felt it was more to do. sorry. i felt it was more to do. sorry. i felt it was more to do. sorry. i felt it was more to do with not people having time off for people who need to get up off the couch to use your metaphor and get back

to work. give them some confidence, some goals, some aims. and if this is a kickstart and a boost, i think it's a good thing. >> yeah, like oh go on. final word. final word here. >> yeah. let me tell you what i think would give larger people more confidence at work is if we eradicated from our society this idiotic idea that they are lazy, that they are stupid, that they are overweight because it's their own. get rid of the prejudice, stupid or lazy ? prejudice, stupid or lazy? >> just fat. >> just fat. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> i a wonderful point to end the show on that both of you. thank you very much. that is our political consultant, suzanne evans and the actress tina malone. i always love having you both on. so great stuff. thank you so, so much. and who do you agree with should the unemployed be given? obese? unemployed? i should say not everyone is unemployed. that'd be. that'd be loads of people anyway. be given weight loss jabs free on the nhs to get them back to work. sean onyx says they need to diet and exercise . we shouldn't be using exercise. we shouldn't be using taxpayer money on something that might not work. tracy says. just because they aren't fat, just because they aren't fat, just

because i'm presuming that means just because they are fat doesn't mean they can't work anyway. alex says we should provide incentives to work and to lose weight. if this works, it could save the economy. your verdict is in, right? i'm quite excited to see what the result of this is. 12% of you think that the unemployed who are obese should be given weight loss jabs. 88% of you say they shouldn't be given the weight loss jabs. fascinating. we'll see how this one plays out. coming up, a school in county durham has been forced into an embarrassing u—turn after an email was sent to parents telling them that the school's heating would be turned off on friday to teach pupils about climate change. yep, you heard me right. but this isn't hysteria, you know. no, no, no, it's not climate change. it's just more, i think, of a danger to kids, isn't it? former tory mp miriam cates certainly thinks so. she joins me next. and last night i did grill the tory leadership hopeful robert jenrick. tonight it's the turn of kemi badenoch supporter, burghart mp. he'll tell me why kemi would

yeah. welcome back to patrick christys tonight. coming up. it's climate hysteria actually damaging kids brains. i'm going to talk about that in a second. but first i'm joined now by the shadow northern ireland secretary alex burghart. now alex thank you so much for joining us tonight. you are backing kemi aren't you? yeah. i will be absolutely lighting up our television screens on thursday night right here on gb news as she does battle with robert jenrick . so why is she

robert jenrick. so why is she better than him? >> i'm really looking forward to gb news debate on on thursday. i think it's going to be really good opportunity for all of your viewers to see, you know, the quality of both candidates. there are two very good candidates i've picked kemi, i, we were elected at the same time in 2017, and it was immediately apparent that we had like a future star amongst us. she was always so on it. i mean, in the chamber attacking the labour party, but also, crucially, standing up for conservative values and she gave this amazing, you know , maiden speech amazing, you know, maiden speech where she said, look, i was born here, but i grew up abroad and i've seen what it's like when a country falls apart under socialism. we can never let the left forget that. and we can never let that happen here. and it was it was sort of this moment where we thought, hold on. there's someone who's got the potential to lead us in the future . and i've just always future. and i've just always been struck by how honest a

politician she is. you see a lot of talented people in westminster, but they're always trying to work out what the pubuc trying to work out what the public want to hear and then repeat it back to them. don't get that. >> is there a criticism that maybe at times she's a bit too honest? and by that i mean that sometimes she can not put her foot in it, but say something a bit clumsily or a bit too direct and that that you end up in a situation where you're having to fend that off for a few days in the media afterwards. >> oh, look, there are obviously lots of people who try and be very, very kind of over careful. and she will always tell you what's on her mind and what she's thinking. being a couple of things recently that i think have been taken out of context, but the maternity pay stuff, yeah, yeah, i watch you all the only point she was making is that. yeah, there are a lot of small businesses in this country that are overregulated. and if you want people to set businesses up, you want people to take a risk. if you want to have entrepreneurs. i mean, my seat, my constituency is in essex. we've got a lot of really great small businesses there, some of them not so small anymore. and i'm always hearing about every little thing that

the government is doing to get in their way. we shouldn't, shouldn't be getting in the way of those people sh