as far as i'm same thing for as far as i'm aware anyway. really, we don't have like a kind of muslim history month, do we.7 i have like a kind of muslim history month, do we? i don't think we have a hindu history month or a british indian history month or things like that. why, why, why black history month ? history month? >> i think one of the things we have to recognise that when you had a massive transfer of people in the millions during the slave trade, you lose your identity and you don't necessarily know where you're coming from and it can affect how you go in the future. so as a result of that, black history month is there to say, listen, we have contributed through the 100 years, which my colleague has just highlighted. and it's not just from the windrush generation in 1948. and so our young people need to understand that they contributed or their ancestors have contributed, and it actually helps them to have a stronger sense of identity, not just on social media or peer pressure. they know where they're coming from. so that hopefully helps

them to know where they're going. and i think it prevents this thing called self—loathing, because sometimes when you don't understand where you're coming from, my brother here is from africa. he will know his identity. there's a lot of people like myself from canbbean people like myself from caribbean extraction won't know their identity. and so they're lost and they can have that self—loathing, and they can and it can lead to all sorts of problems. so that's why it's really important. but as i said, it's not just the month . it it's not just the month. it should be all the year round. as i said, with voyage and other initiatives that have been doing similar work. okay, great. >> so both of you look, thank you very, very much. it was a fantastic discussion as leroy logan there. of course, the former chairman of the black police association and councillor ron mackey. so there tory councillor and a teacher as well. great stuff coming up. i'll bring you the very first of tomorrow's newspaper. front page is hot off the press and there appears to be yet more evidence. a two tier policing. so they were warning leader of terrorist organisations. >> your opinion is up to you.

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welcome back to patrick christys tonight. i've got some front pages for you. let's do it. so we start with the metro. labour's war on waste . but labour's war on waste. but they've spelt waste differently because they're hilarious . now because they're hilarious. now the prime minister backs jabs to get the jobless working. so we've already covered that. let's deal with the independent now they've got the picture there of thomas tuchel who is now

workers, reeves told the daily express . time workers, reeves told the daily express. time is running out. i need your help to change the cruel law. this is dame esther rantzen. this is the assisted dying vote and we go with the daily telegraph. reeves u—turn on dangers of national insurance rise. she admitted that it will hit workers pay this of course, is off the back of them, saying they're not going to tax workers. they've also got thomas to call their big picture of the beer at an oktoberfest, because we now have a german in charge of the english national team. so what do we all make of this ? do what do we all make of this? do we think that that's actually a good thing or not? i know people will probably be popping off on this. should we have a german in charge of the english national team that ten german bombers songis team that ten german bombers song is going to be a bit awkward now, isn't it? >> stephen, you took that line out. me? who's going to? oh, sorry. who's going to sing? two world wars and one world cup with the german manager? >> unless he's like one. i think. yeah, well, we were talking about this bill and i in the green room and we were saying, can we sing this? but actually, i find that a lot of germans do actually enjoy our sense of humour. and when i was in the

european parliament, some of the german meps who were friends of mine actually did quite enjoy the way that we'd sing that song. >> sorry, just to clarify, mate, so you in the european parliament used to sing two world wars and one world cup to the germans. yeah, but. >> but you wouldn't sing it because i don't have a great singing voice, as you heard earlier on. but we'd say over coffee. are things like that, right. okay. >> i was telling you, stephen, i can bet that story i was at the un general assembly, met two old school friends, one of whom came out with a memorable two world wars and one world cup. and then i realised the chief of staff to the german foreign minister was sitting at the next table. rafe. but we managed to smooth it oven but we managed to smooth it over, smooth it over. >> just. >> just. >> yeah. casually. yeah. >> yeah. casually. yeah. >> casually brushed it aside and dude, look, should we not have an english manager? you don't care, do you know i mean, i feel like i think we should speak on a more general thing. >> i think we should. i mean, because you wouldn't normally. see, i haven't seen german team with an english manager or an italian with a spanish manager. they tend to be able to succeed with their own managers from their own countries. and i think that's part of the parcel of

someone who should be able to stand there alongside the team and sing the national anthem. yeah , but look along with him. yeah, but look along with him. >> will he sing the national anthem? will he sing the national we just had? was it lee carsley, the bloke who i just don't have no words for him, was have no words for him. yeah. english, but played for ireland and refused to sing the national anthem. so i mean we'd never have employed him a lot worse than that. >> i'm a passionate football fan. i want a decent manager. i think gareth southgate was a decent manager. he's the best we've had in donkey's years. yeah, but if you look at the alternatives to tuchel now , alternatives to tuchel now, eddie howe and graham potter, neither of whom in my view are capable of managing at the highest level. so, you know, tuchel has succeeded at the top level. and you know we do have a history in this country of germans having significant influence over our institutions and i say nothing more than that. so it's nothing new. >> that's occurred. >> that's occurred. >> well we've got to get controversial again okay. >> all right . well hey that's, >> all right. well hey that's, that's that's one of the big stories today that thomas tuchel is now the england manager supposedly trousering about 4.5

million, only a mere four and a half, only a lot less than he'd earn in the premier league. yeah, a lot less, a lot less. >> apparently he's on £9 million at bayern munich. but anyway, i'm being told to keep it moving. so this is something that emma is, i think more qualified to talk about in a sense. and it is an unfortunate one, but it's the shocking moment that met police officers seemingly refuse to acknowledge what they do acknowledge, refuse to acknowledge that hezbollah is a terrorist organisation, arguing instead that that is a matter of opinion. so they were mourning a leader of terrorist organisations. >> your opinion is up to you. but that is a legally a terrorist organisation. so your opinion is your opinion? no , opinion is your opinion? no, that's it's not my opinion. >> it's the opinion of the government. okay. well your opinions. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> sorry we're not allowed. we don't take opinions. we're just here. >> it's not an opinion. >> it's not an opinion. >> it's not an opinion. >> it's a it's an opinion that is not a fact . okay . is not a fact. okay. >> yeah. i mean, what do you make of that? are they are they a bit thick or do they not read

the news. do they not care? >> badly trained, badly trained. we've seen some pretty appalling police incompetence over the last year or so, particularly since october. the seventh. last year. since october. the seventh. last year . and even i was gobsmacked year. and even i was gobsmacked seeing this footage because it the idea that you could send police officers to police, a vigil being held for the leader of a terrorist organisation, and those police officers think that it's a matter of opinion that that group are a terrorist saying earlier, you have, you know, all these cases going to you know, weasel their way around definitions of jihad and that sort of thing and not picking up people on the street until twitter causes enough of a storm around it that they're effectively forced to do their job and actually police. i think that it's a genuine worry that there are police officers on our street who are so badly educated on the law that this and like we were saying earlier, i don't

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