the money might be invested that the money might be invested in, in trashing the planet rather than saving it.7 >> or is there a third option here that this isn't actually about genuine investment, that this is money that is going to parts of the world that are notoriously corrupt , that don't notoriously corrupt, that don't have high transparency index ratings, that actually a lot of this money might not be going to any infrastructure at all, whether it's green or fossil fuels. a lot of this money might just be going into the pockets of demagogues, dictators and their allies. >> well, that's always been the challenge with aid is how do we help the poorest countries in the world, which have very poor and damaged governance structures? and one of the ambitions for the world bank is to bring renewable energy to 100 million people in africa. that is really important that those people are lifted out of poverty. and actually what i think is really important in this issue, and i link it with the previous topic that you were discussing about migration , discussing about migration, asylum is the un air says 32 million refugees are were were

caused by climate, extreme weather in in in 2022. the prediction is a billion by by 2060. so what we're actually looking at is we have to make sure the investment is done properly and must be done rightly, but it also must be ramped up. the link between the impacts on the global south of fossil fuel use and refugees is really crucial, in our opinion. >> i mean, this is just outrageous, though. i mean, this is what oxfam is saying. no, clear public record showing where this money went or how it was used, which makes any assessment of its impacts impossible. now, i'm of the belief that if you give money to something, you should be able to then follow that money and find out exactly where it's going and what it has achieved. there needs to actually be a net benefit from this money going to something. otherwise, it's just our hard earned cash or wherever else going towards something that we have absolutely no proof if it's actually helped anyone. >> well, again, tom and emily and myself, we're on the same

page. totally 100% agree with you.the page. totally 100% agree with you. the question is, and must be transparent. but also, you raised another issue, i think, which is important. you talked about hard pressed taxpayers. i think it's really important that we remember that the vast majority of emissions come from the richest 1% in society. the estimate is that the 1% emit more than 70% of the world's poorest population. so what we should be looking at is that making sure the rich polluters are funding this. brazil has a really interesting proposal for cop, for the for the coming cop. they're proposing next year that the cop should agree that just putting a tax on the 100 richest families in the world. >> oh, here we go, here we go. we'll take away your property. we'll take away your property. we'll take away your property. we'll take away your wealth, and it will fix the world's woes. what are you going to do about china and all of their fossil fuels? >> emily, no. hang on. let's let's ask the moral question here. 100 families own 12.5 trillion. >> and once you've spent that cash, what happens next? once

you've spent that cash, once you've spent that cash, once you've spent that cash, once you've spent that cash, what happens? >> the proposal is to invest 1% of the 100 families richest wealth in protecting humanity from climate destruction. >> well, what happens the next year once you've taken 1%? okay, the next year they have 1% less. okay. this wealth isn't going to suddenly re—emerge. you're not. it's not exactly a sustainable solution, is it? to take 1%. >> what happened? i've looked at what happened since the 1970s. since the 1970s, working class and middle class people's wealth has remained stagnant. the top 1% wealth has soared. and all we're saying is for them to invest a fair position to protect us, because the impact on poor people in britain is disastrous. >> i think if you're going to be, i think you're measuring share rather than absolute terms there, because of course, since there, because of course, since the 1970s, the number of people who have what we would define as good standards of living has soared in this country. i mean, the percentage of people in this world, i should say, the percentage of people living on less than a dollar a day has

gone down from around 80% to less than 10%. i mean, it's been miraculous what's happened in the last 30 or 40 years. >> the question here is if you accept a climate science from from the oil companies, which predicted that we would be damaging the climate in the 2020s, if you accept that premise, something has to fund it. and what we're saying is that the 1%, 1% tax on the 1% would help fund it, rather than poor tax . poor tax. >> that wouldn't work. it wouldn't. it sounds lovely, but it wouldn't work. donna mccarthy. we'll have to leave it there. we'll argue about this again, i'm sure. i do enjoy talking to you. donna mccarthy, director of the climate media coalition . coalition. >> well, much more to come. much more to discuss on this program. but we've got to get to the news. we're going to be talking about keir starmer's cabinet rebelling against proposed spending cuts after this . spending cuts after this. >> very good afternoon to you. 12:34. tributes continue to pour in for liam payne this afternoon as fans and fellow stars remember the former one direction singer after his death

last night at the age of 31. his career soared during his time in one direction, but in recent years he also spoke openly about his struggles with mental health and addiction, admitting to hitting rock bottom . social hitting rock bottom. social media has been flooded with tributes. you can see some of them there on your screen, with many sharing their memories of his iconic performances and his personal struggles . in other personal struggles. in other news, thousands of uk troops are being put on standby to deploy to estonia's border with russia as part of a crucial new agreement being signed today by the defence secretary, john healey. it means the army's fourth brigade will remain on high readiness to defend against rising tensions from the ongoing war in ukraine. currently, about 1000 british soldiers are in estonia and if called upon, the fourth brigade could arrive within ten days, equipped with advanced tanks and missile systems. as nato ministers are gathering today in brussels, the defence secretary said earlier the new deal will enhance the

group's defences in the face of what he described as escalating global threats here. thousands of migrants could be granted asylum as the government pushes to clear a huge backlog of applications. the refugee council estimates the number of pending asylum claims could reach almost 120,000 by the new year , following labour's year, following labour's decision to scrap the rwanda plan. new analysis suggests that processing the backlog could see over 62,000 more people recognised as refugees in the uk. it comes as downing street says it's committed to ending the use of asylum hotels, despite reports the home office may reopen some that were previously closed . kemi badenoch previously closed. kemi badenoch says her bid for conservative leadership is a grassroots campaign taking aim at her rival robert jenrick. more media focused approach in recent weeks, as the two contenders compete to replace rishi sunak, the shadow housing secretary says the tories need to regain voters they lost in july's election to reform and the

liberal democrats. meanwhile, though, robert jenrick has outlined his vision for a smaller state and lower taxes, arguing that returning the spending on benefits to pre—pandemic levels would help a tax cut from 7 pm. tonight, they'll be making their pitches to tory members in a special programme moderated by our political editor, chris hope, and you can catch all the action live here on gb news seven till 9:00 tonight. a new weight loss jabs touted as potential boost for britain's economy by getting people back into work may also help treat alcohol addiction. that's according to researchers in chicago, who found that drugs like ozempic reduced intoxication rates by 50% in individuals with alcohol use disorder. experts believe the jabs, which target both appetite and brain function related to addiction, could be a promising new treatment for both alcohol and opioid addiction . that's the and opioid addiction. that's the latest from the newsroom. for now , a full round up at 1:00 for now, a full round up at 1:00 for the very latest gb news direct

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>> good afternoon britain. it's now 1241 and keir starmer is feeling the pressure today because members of his cabinet are fighting back against cuts to their departmental spending. >> yes, letters from senior ministers have been sent to both 1514