>> good evening. the top stories from the gb newsroom. kemi badenoch says she'll tell hard truths to both the country and her party as she began her first full day as conservative leader . full day as conservative leader. she's vowed to ensure a fresh start for the party ahead of announcing her shadow cabinet. she's also said partygate was overblown and the government should not have fined people for everyday activities during lockdown. kemi badenoch won more than 53,000 votes in that contest , whilst her rival robert contest, whilst her rival robert jenrick received 41,000 votes. miss badenoch is expected to name her shadow cabinet in the coming days. ahead of their first meeting on tuesday with former contenders robert jenrick, tom tugendhat , mel jenrick, tom tugendhat, mel stride and dame priti patel reportedly open to frontbench positions . elsewhere, labour mp

positions. elsewhere, labour mp dawn butler shared a social media post accusing kemi badenoch of representing white supremacy in blackface. shortly before she was elected as the new tory leader. the brent east mp has since deleted the repost from her x account. neither downing street nor dawn butler have made any comments. >> he's a race baiter. have made any comments. >> he's a race baiter . why is >> he's a race baiter. why is she still got the whip.7 >> look, that's up to labour. i mean, i think genuinely i genuinely think that given what she's said, she should have the whip removed from her. there should be some discipline and some disciplinary measure against this kind of really hateful device. >> i was reminded that the former conservative chancellor , former conservative chancellor, kwasi kwarteng, there. >> now, rachel reeves says the money raised through changes to inheritance tax to farmers will go back to public services. the chancellor says farmers also rely on good public services, including the nhs and schools, adding the funds generated by these tax changes will also put pubuc these tax changes will also put public finances on a firm footing . a joint investigation

footing. a joint investigation from both channel 4 and the sunday times has revealed. the full details of the property estates owned by the king and prince william. the investigation shows the vast array of commercial property the royal family's built up from the time of medieval monarchs. their contracts with public bodies are said to include a £37 million agreement with the ministry of justice and an £11.4 million deal with guy's and st thomas nhs trust. a spokesman for the duchy of cornwall said it was a private estate with a commercial imperative, while the duchy of lancaster said their business complies with all relevant uk legislation and regulatory standards . while that comes as standards. while that comes as prince william travels to south africa this week for his earthshot prize award ceremony. now that prize is hoped to recognise environmental solutions to repair the planet, and there are now just two days to go until the us election and shock polling from a traditionally republican. iowa has placed democratic candidate kamala harris ahead of donald

trump by three points. it comes as kamala harris appeared overnight in a comedy sketch on saturday night live in new york, where comedian maya rudolph, dressed as the current vice president. polls elsewhere in states such as pennsylvania and michigan showed the two candidates are tied ahead of election day on tuesday and will, of course, have live coverage throughout the night from 11 pm. on tuesday. and those are your latest gb news headunes those are your latest gb news headlines for now, i'm tatiana sanchez. more from me in an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gb news .com forward slash alerts . .com forward slash alerts. >> kemi badenoch becomes the new conservative leader. the taliban continues its war on women, and joe biden calls half the american electorate garbage. this is free speech nation .

this is free speech nation. welcome to free speech nation with me, andrew doyle. this is the show where we take a look at culture, current affairs and politics. and by the way, we're going to be deciding whether calling half of your potential voters garbage is a winning electoral strategy. coming up on the show tonight, i'll be joined by author and activist joan smith, who has worked for years to raise awareness of violence against women and has a new book out about rome's imperial women. last week , the taliban's last week, the taliban's minister for virtue banned adult women from speaking with each other. i'm going to be joined by yasmin mohammed, a human rights activist and author who fights for the rights of women living in muslim majority countries . in muslim majority countries. and we'll also be speaking to tyler fisher, the comedian who is banned for life after posting a joke about an airline on x. and of course, myself and my fantastic panel will be answering questions from this rather lovely studio audience and my comedian panellists. this evening are leo kearse and louis schaefer . are you comfortable, schaefer. are you comfortable, louis, because you were moving

the furniture around before? just before we went on air. now i like your anarchic quality. i find it charming, but some people find it annoying. >> i don't know who those people are. no . and number two. number are. no. and number two. number two. am i comfortable? i make a decent living. >> you do? all right. don't you? >> you do? all right. don't you? >> it's an old good. >> it's an old good. >> that's why we bring him in for the laughs. leo, how are you? yeah. i'm good. >> thanks. >> thanks. >> right. there you go. so i'm more interested in talking to louis than leo. let's move on. let's get some. no, look, don't pity let's get some. no, look, don't pity him. he gets paid a lot. let's move on to some questions from the audience. our first question is from alan. where's alan? i'm here. what about you, alan? >> hi. >> hi. >> should their whip be removed from dawn butler for sharing a racist tweet following kemi badenoch success? >> yeah, so this is an interesting one. i'm going to ask you in a minute what you think. i mean, for those who don't know, of course, kemi badenoch is the new leader of the conservative party, but there were some activists who were very angry about this, and there was an author called nell's abbey who posted a tweet saying that kemi badenoch was the was white supremacy in

blackface , which is obviously blackface, which is obviously a very offensive tweet, and that was reposted by dawn butler, the labour mp. what do you make of that? >> she's got to go. >> she's got to go. >> you think? >> you think? >> absolutely. if you did that for example, in a place of work, yes. you'd be fired immediately. >> yeah, absolutely. okay. this is really interesting because kemi badenoch victory to conservatives, it's wound up a lot of racist people. i've noficed lot of racist people. i've noticed on my own timeline . i noticed on my own timeline. i post an article saying this is why i think she'll do a good job. and i had authentic, proper, nasty, racist comments underneath. and it also wound up the sort of racist element of the sort of racist element of the far left who basically think that black people should all think alike. in other words, they should all think the way that nell zebby does or dawn butler does. and you know, these are just different forms of racism. >> yeah. no. absolutely. i mean, for a start, when we talk about removing the whip from dawn butler, she's going to call that racist because obviously, you know, that harks back to to the slavery. but when she shared that thing saying kemi badenoch

is , you know, white white is, you know, white white privilege or white supremacy in blackface, it's like, no, that's cami's actual face. that's her face. she's she's genuinely black. and i think it's such a it's such a sort of bigoted thing to assume that everybody who's black has to have these certain opinions. and it's a really reductive and racially divisive thing to say . and i divisive thing to say. and i think, cami, i mean, for a start, she's she's nowhere near a sort of, you know, this reactionary extremist that she's been painted as. she's just, you know, got some sensible ideas. >> she's a conservative. >> she's a conservative. >> yeah, she's she's a conservative. she's she's pretty sensible. she's she's worked things out. she's not swayed by ideology, which, you know, can be, can seem dangerous in these, these times when we've all got to, you know , we've got to be to, you know, we've got to be like galileo tiptoeing around the catholic church the way we've got to refer to, you know, gender ideologists and all that sort of stuff. but yeah, she's she's got some sensible ideas. and i think don butler, this isn't even the first thing that don butler has done. just a week or two ago, she posted this incredibly racist, black

supremacist poem where she claimed to be one of the chosen ones because she's from africa and all this sort of stuff. and it's like if a white person had done that same sort of stuff, never mind getting fired, they'd be in jail. >> you know, she also appeared on good morning britain. she said that babies are not born with a biological sex. so i think i think there's a there's a case for firing her on iq basis. but let me ask you, louis, about this, because this is reminiscent from an american perspective. when joe biden said, if you vote for donald trump, you ain't black. i mean, isn't this just a form of racism? >> but are you saying it's racism is a form of racism? i mean, it's for goodness sake, it's not even mean. it means it means that she's a member of the labour party. this is what these people believe. you can't fire her without firing the rest of the entire party. well, that's. this is what they believe. they think that if you don't think like them, whatever them are thinking like, then you're. then you're bad. and maybe they should call and call in obama to speak to kemi badenoch and to remind kemi badenoch to vote for the for the labour party. >> well, yeah, i mean, it is that that sort of monolithic thinking, isn't it? >> that's what they think. and

what business do you have to tell them who they want in their party? >> hey, louis, i have no power in the labour party. i'm just criticising , which is my job in the labour party. i'm just criticising, which is my job and my responsibility. >> it isn't your to job do that. it's their party. it's. >> by the way, people haven't seen louis before. this is what he does. he just. he's just a contrarian. >> he'll just say, i'm not contrarian. >> he just did it again. okay, so let's move on. let's get a question now from who's our next questioner. who is it? bob? it's bob. >> hi, bob. hi. >> hi, bob. hi. >> hi, bob. hi. >> hi, everybody. how's the budget? handed the tories and maybe reform for that matter. an open goal. >> how do you think labour are doing, bob? >> well, they haven't got off to a good start, haven't they ? a good start, haven't they? well, that's just this is just another one in a long list of absolute faux pas. >> well, there's been a poll of course, the most recent poll, which is a bmg poll which has actually found that the tories have now overtaken labour. and this is incredible. if you consider that not that long ago labour won a huge majority, 412 seats and all of a sudden it's flipped. can you explain to me how can that level of popularity? i mean, i know that

the tories did it with their stonking 80 seat majority, which they lost over a period of quite a long time. labour seem to have doneit a long time. labour seem to have done it overnight. >> yeah. no, absolutely. i mean, their honeymoon period was over before they left the airport. i don't think they even got to consummate the marriage with the bride. but yeah, i mean, basically we've had years of this march through the institutions of the hard left, you know, like the, like don butler's opinions that we just saw. we've had these marxist opinions, you know, going proliferating through our institutions, through the labour party. but it hasn't really impacted people materially. it's just been insanity. like obviously gender ideology and stuff like that. >> but labour have said that they've had a particularly difficult time that they've had to deal with some particularly difficult things, and that's why their popularity is going to go down. it's inevitable. >> no , no. now we're going to >> no, no. now we're going to see i mean, this budget shows that, you know, the material side of marxism is basically, you know, chopping down all aspiration, chopping down investment, chopping down any sort of growth in the free market and making the state the biggest, like just a real sort

of, you know, just hastening the drift into communism. and this is really going to start impacting people materially when you start having to eat out of the bin because of the labour government. you know, it's not about having to use pronouns. all of a sudden it's about you starving and having to eat squirrels or you're going to die. so we're really going to see this, this, you know, impact in this, this whole idea that marxism is a good idea. >> i know people who do that anyway. i knew a freegan and she was quite upper middle class, but she liked getting free stuff outside the bins at waitrose. yeah. >> so you know what's wrong with that? >> nothing. absolutely nothing wrong with that. it's not very classy, but look , where do you classy, but look, where do you stand on labour? tory? because, i mean, obviously, you're an outsider. i know you've lived here a long, a long time, but, you know, you're not really part of. >> you called me a contrarian. so you're not going to accept anything that i say. i will. >> well, no, i want to hear it. nevertheless. don't have a tantrum on air. lewis is. >> you told them not to accept what i say because you called me a contrarian. the fact. the fact is. here's the fact. the fact is, is. >> thanks, lewis. let's move on. >> thanks, lewis. let's move on. >> no, no, i want to tell you. >> i know you've got something

to say. let's have it. >> i'm sorry. is that is that is that it's labour? we know what labour is, but we don't know what tory is. and tory, the tory party is dead just because they've got a few percentage points in a poll. that's probably a lie. that's what we're learning from america. >> kemi badenoch and a lot of people are excited about kemi badenoch. you don't think that that might re—energize the party? >> i mean, i'm old enough to remember when i was excited about eugene nickerson and the nassau county commissioner's election in 1964. is that it's a lie? she's . she's. all she has lie? she's. she's. all she has going for her. is. lie? she's. she's. all she has going for her. is . she's black. going for her. is. she's black. that's not to say it. she's in de appointment. >> she's not. she's smart. she's she's she's they're all smart. >> they all think they're really. she's running for prime minister. i mean, maybe, maybe kamala harris isn't smart. the truth. the truth is no. i'm going to tell you something . the going to tell you something. the truth is, is that is that this political system is completely broken. labour only stands for wasting money. it doesn't stand for the core labour principles. and the tories. the tories are dead. >> i would agree that they certainly don't stand for the

working class anymore, which is odd since they're called labour. yes, exactly. >> so at what point does labour reject the idea that kemi badenoch is a di appointment? >> like if you see her, you know, engaged in debate. she's always incredibly well—briefed. she can really go for people, but she knows what she's talking about. >> but is she speaking for the pics and the angles and the saxons and the jews? is she speaking? is she speaking for the celts, the celts? is she speaking for the people who came to this country less than ten years ago? >> you speak, you speak for the picts. >> somebody needs to, and it may have to be me. you think i'm kidding somebody? somebody has to speak for the english people. >> okay, but if any picts are watching and they're worried about their representation, do do chip in. did i mention the jutes? look, we're done with you now. let's move on now to abdi. hi. >> hello. hi. hi . has google in >> hello. hi. hi. has google in this insipid woke universe gone where no one has gone before? >> yeah, well, i mean , google >> yeah, well, i mean, google obviously we know that for a while now, google have been sort of tampering with the way, you

know, the results that you get when you search for certain things . i when you search for certain things. i think there's a section in douglas murray's book where he talks about that. you know, you put a something in like a couple or a married couple, and it's always gay couples come back at you or you're put in a what are some of the others you put in a you always get like a mixed race couples. yeah. automatically. and it's like, let's just talk about like the whole of society. but now they've gone one step further because google apparently, to according stephen edgington, who's the telegraph reporter, formerly telegraph, now gb news , if you enter in now gb news, if you enter in searches for restaurants, google now indicates whether the restaurants are lgbtq friendly. now, i would have thought that all restaurants are going to take your money no matter who you're sleeping with. >> oh, there's a lot of restaurants that as soon as gay people come in number one, they can tell they've got a scanner at the door, or they can tell exactly what you've been doing with your bits, and they will throw you out on the street. they will give you the bum's rush. and they they don't call it the bum's rush because that's offensive to them. but yeah, this is ridiculous. i mean, lgbtq friendly, i can go in there as an asexual. i'm so i'm

so happy as a as a queer. >> i saw this during pride month where i went to a restaurant in london. i won't name it, but they had a table , matt, which they had a table, matt, which said, we are proud that we, you know, we are supportive of we have gay members of staff and we're supportive. i was like, i would assume you were like, i would assume you were like, i would assume you weren't segregating people by their sexual orientation. why do you have to tell me that? in fact, it makes me think you're actually homophobic. yeah. why else would you say that also? >> it's that sort of signal, like, oh, other restaurants might be bigoted. do you want to eat at a bigoted restaurant? and also, like, one of the things does actually advertise to bigots. they say, oh, this is a this is run by women and women work here. so if you're a man who wants to know that women are in the kitchen, then you can go to that place, an image of the search result. >> if you can have a look at that, that might come up now. well, well there it is. and as you can see it also says identifies as woman owned. so the restaurant doesn't have to be woman owned. they just identify as being woman owned. and that's fine. identifies as asian owned. just eat your food. if i go to a restaurant, i don't care who's running. i care how well they cook the food. i mean,

this should matter to you, lewis. as someone who only eats animals raw, raw animals. something with a pulse, that's all you eat? >> no, they don't even have a pulse anymore. but i might eat it with a. >> i'm sure you would. >> i'm sure you would. >> is there? this is. this is google. i was googling for the joe rogan donald trump debate and you couldn't find it because google, as you would say, andrew, is completely captured. captured. and that's why that's why kemi badenoch doesn't seem to be good enough . to be good enough. >> you're so obsessed with kemi badenoch. let's move on. now. we've got question from anton. >> anton, is it okay for biden to call people garbage? >> yeah, well. well, i mean, this caused a bit of a storm. i think biden calling people garbage and he denied it. i have to absolutely say this. he said he didn't mean that. he meant that the comedian who was performing at the madison square garden event, who made the joke about puerto ricans that that it was his garbage. there was apostrophe in supporters garbage. but actually, i've watched it back a number of times now. no, he's just calling trump voters garbage, isn't he? let's be honest. yeah, and also the actual white house went went

to the stenography office and made them change the position of the apostrophe. >> so instead of saying you know, trump's supporters are garbage, it was almost like trying to say it's they were referring to the litter drop by trump supporters. it was a real grammatical change work, because, of course, when hillary clinton called half the electorate deplorables, she lost. >> could this be the thing that swings it, louis? >> it's not going to swing one election. we're having we're having civil war when this thing is over. so it doesn't matter who gets elected. >> so cheery. >> so cheery. >> do you really think that's going to happen? i think it's totally going to happen. i think if kamala harris is elected, i think i think i think the maga, maga people are going to go after. >> i don't think the vice versa, though, and vice versa. >> two the truth is, the truth is , is that is the democrats is, is that is the democrats think that people who support donald trump and that side are garbage. they actually absolutely do. >> they think they're fascists. you know , there's no getting you know, there's no getting around this, which is which is just a prelude for us hacking each other to death, which i am against. >> i just want to go and i'm glad that you're against that,

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welcome back to free speech nafion welcome back to free speech nation with me. andrew doyle joan smith is an author and journalist and campaigner for women's rights, and she's just written a fantastic new book about rome's imperial women with the provocative title.

unfortunately , she was a unfortunately, she was a nymphomaniac. i'm delighted to say that joan smith joins me now. welcome to the show. hi. it deserves a round of applause, i think. but there we go. joan. now the title. unfortunately, she was a nymphomaniac. this is actually, according to you in the book. this comes from a tour guide. can you tell us the story about this? yes. >> so 18 months ago, i was about halfway through writing the book, and i've been going up and to down rome because i've been looking at places that they lived and places they were murdered and statues and things. anyway, i went to the palazzo massimo, which is one of the great museums in rome, and up on the top floor there's a room which has frescoes from the villa owned the country villa owned by the empress livia , owned by the empress livia, about 12km north of rome. and they're very beautiful. they're very famous. it's called il giardino dei livia. >> the garden of livia. >> the garden of livia. >> and a guide came in an italian guide with an english party of tourists. and he started his his talk and he said, you know, these frescoes were painted for livia, who was the first emperor. she was married to the first emperor,

augustus, and they were married for more than 50 years. and they loved each other very much. >> and my ears pricked up at this point, thinking, i don't think so. >> and then he said, but they never had children together. and in fact, augustus only ever had one child, and unfortunately she was a nymphomaniac. >> well, he's given you the title of the book. he has. yes, but it does feed in really well to a central thesis of your book. i mean, you're talking really about the way in which the roman women have been misrepresented in all sorts of ways, but there's sort of two layers to it. you talk initially about the historians, the ancient historians suetonius, tacitus , dio cassius, and the tacitus, dio cassius, and the way that they skewed the history, particularly when it came to women. but then you're also talking about modern historians. a recent books, and the way that they've just sort of blindly followed that precedent. do you want to tell us a bit more about that? yes. >> i mean, that really surprised me because i started thinking about doing the book quite a while ago, and then i went to the british museum's nero exhibition, and you know, it was advertised as nero. >> was he really as bad as he was painted? and the answer to thatis was painted? and the answer to that is yes. >> yes, i would have thought so.

>> yes, i would have thought so. >> but particularly where women are concerned, because he he's actually a kind of successful serial killer. so he, he kills his mother, his wife, two of his wives, his sister in law and his aunt, which is quite impressive . aunt, which is quite impressive. and so i thought that, you know, what is the british museum doing here? and there was a caption which said , ancient historians which said, ancient historians said that nero killed his, his mother and two of his wives. he said that they betrayed him. what do you think? and i was thinking, wow, that's like victim blaming on a huge scale, isn't it? but it's also in the british museum, of all places. and then when i started looking at, you know, modern writers, modern historians, you get the same thing over and over again. so they, they kind of unquestioningly repeat the slurs of ancient writers, and you kind of ancient writers, and you kind of expect it of, you know, of people writing 2000 years ago or 1800 years ago, but i really thought by now there might have been a kind of more nuanced response. >> do you think it might be because we think of these things as not real in a way? you know,

we've had the 1976 show i, claudius, which you're not happy with, although i have to say personally, i love it. i think it's such a great fun drama, but i don't think it's real. i think, you know, i think it's i think, you know, i think it's i think it's pure fiction. but do you think there's a sense in which, because that was so popular and because the myths that it perpetrated have become so widespread, that that's why we don't think of them as real historical figures anymore. >> oh, i think that's certainly true. and what that does is it wipes out actually the horrors of that. i write about in the book, because i decided there's five julio—claudian emperors from augustus, nero . and i've from augustus, nero. and i've written about 23 women who are very close to him. so the wives, mothers to them, the wives, mothers, daughters, sisters, and so on. and only half a dozen actually died of natural causes. the rest were, you know, and it starts off with the romans actually sanctioned child marriage, which is forced marriage. so girls were married at the could be married at the age of 12, boys at 14. of course, it's a bit different. and the youngest, the woman who's married at that age in my bookis who's married at that age in my book is livilla. who's the

emperor claudius's sister. and she's 12 when she's married for the first time. i mean, augustus's daughterjulia the first time. i mean, augustus's daughter julia was 14 when she was married for the first time. she was 16 when she was widowed. and then at 18, she was widowed. and then at 18, she was married again to a man more than twice her age. you know, horrible things happen to these women. yes. and they are several of them ended up on an island which i visited last year , about which i visited last year, about about 50 or 60km off the coast of italy . it's 800m by 3000m, of italy. it's 800m by 3000m, absolutely tiny. the only thing that grows there is lentils. and 4 or 5 of the women in my book ended , ended up there in exile, ended, ended up there in exile, and four of them were murdered there. yes. >> i mean, one of the things that you do so brilliantly in the book is that each chapter is talking about specific women with their stories, and i'm glad that you acknowledged that the julio—claudian dynasty is a morass of names. it's like a labyrinth of people of the same names and there's intermarriage and it gets confusing. but i think what you do by honing in on these particular stories is so readable and so accessible, even for people, i think, who don't know anything about it. >> well, i'm glad you think that, because , you know, there's that, because, you know, there's a proliferation of the same

names. so mark antony had three daughters called antonia, which must have caused some confusion at home. and then his, his final wife, he had another daughter with and you know, the roman tradition, she would have been antonia, number four. but his new wife was cleopatra, who was queen of egypt. and she said, no, i'm not having that. this daughter is cleopatra. so, so, so somebody at last had their own name, but it's an indication of how little women were valued, that men had three names. in ancient rome, women only had two. they didn't have what we think of as first names. so when we talk about a woman called juua we talk about a woman called julia or agrippina, it's like calling them smith or brown. those are their surnames . and those are their surnames. and you kind of assume there must have been nicknames. yes. because if you had three daughters, all you would have thought, antonia, it would have made life a bit difficult. >> i mean, gaius got called little boots. he got called caligula. caligula. so you have like, little nicknames here and there. so, i mean, is part of there. so, i mean, is part of the problem that when you're deaung the problem that when you're dealing with sources that are so biased, i mean, the emperors don't come off well either in suetonius and, you know, a lot of that stuff about tiberius and capri. of that stuff about tiberius and capn.l of that stuff about tiberius and capri. i don't believe a word of it, you know? so is the problem that we should really approach

all of these historians with a huge grain of salt? >> yes. but i think what's happenedis >> yes. but i think what's happened is that, you know, there's this revisionist take now , which is that, oh, you now, which is that, oh, you know, suetonius and tacitus, they're not reliable sources. and they they were really rude about the emperors, but the women, everything's true . yeah. women, everything's true. yeah. >> that's interesting. >> that's interesting. >> that's interesting. >> that's the problem. and i'm saying, what if we reverse that and say, well, maybe the things that the emperors were accused of, maybe those things are true and maybe, maybe it's the stuff about the women that's made up. >> so let's talk about a couple of the women. so livia is an interesting example because i mean, in i, claudius, the bbc show, i think sian phillips performance is incredible. and i think that's the best role in the show. but it's an interesting debate, isn't it? because to what extent do they have a responsibility to represent her accurately? because in that show she kills everyone. >> yes, she's the ultimate villain and that comes from tacitus is always quite careful. and he he doesn't accuse livery of murdering people. he'll say some people said, yeah, it was rumoured, you know, the things like that . so in, in robert like that. so in, in robert graves when he writes, i, claudius and claudius the god, he accuses her of eight murders.

and seven of those people were not murdered. yes, they died of natural causes or in battle. and the eighth was murdered, but not by her. yes. and, you know, i was listening a while ago. sian phillips, who i think is in her 90s now, was on woman's hour and it was interesting to hear her talk, but she was immediately introduced, as, you know, sian phillips, who played who played the murderous matriarch in i, claudius, which i suppose is true in the context of the drama. >> but but it's not true historically. so that's something that you're trying to redress in this book, isn't it? and that's what it very clearly comes across. we get a closer sense of who these people actually are. i mean, one of the other examples i wanted to mention was messalina. perhaps if you could talk a bit about her. >> yes. in the plates of the book, which which i chose. part of the reason i've been on this tour of italy is looking at pictures and statues. there's a wonderful statue of the empress messalina in the louvre. and, you know, she's a very young woman, probably only 18 or 19, and she's got her son balanced on her hip. and what i've put on

the opposite page is aubrey beardsley's absolutely vile caricature of her supposedly coming back from the brothel where she moonlighted as a prostitute. as as so many women do. and, you know, the contrast between the two is absolutely extraordinary. and it comes from juvenal, the satirist and he wrote a diatribe against women in marriage. and he describes messalina as having working night shifts in a brothel and the caption to the picture in the caption to the picture in the aubrey beardsley image, which is in the v&a, says this is this is her returning, unsatisfied from the brothel. yes, because he because juvenile. she juvenile calls. you know, this is another nymphomaniac. she's so unsatisfied. he talks about her having you know, he's a bit of latin for you. he describes her having a tend to go, which is the latin word for a male erection. and the reason she's so miserable looking in this, in this, this beardsley drawing, is that she's got a throbbing clitoris because she's never satisfied. i mean, all of this

is completely and utterly made up.and is completely and utterly made up. and this, this young woman, eventually, you know , who was eventually, you know, who was married at probably the age of 13 or 14 to, you know, the odious claudius who was farting and drunken and overeating and sex mad and she, you know, she provided him with two children. but it's a very sad story. and eventually she goes through when he's out of town, she goes through a kind of bigamous marriage, and he comes back and has her run through with the sword. it's a very, very sad story. >> well, i think your book is an excellent corrective to a lot of these myths that have been perpetrated. so it's called unfortunately, she was a nymphomaniac. it's out right now. joan smith, thanks so much for joining me. thank you . so forjoining me. thank you. so last week , the taliban's last week, the taliban's minister for virtue banned adult women from speaking with each other. i'm going to be joined by yasmin mohammed to discuss that story. don't go

welcome back to free speech nafion welcome back to free speech nation with me, andrew doyle. later in the show, i'll be turning agony uncle with the help of my panel, lewis and leo, and will help you deal with your unfiltered dilemmas. so if you've got any problems at all, you've got any problems at all, you can message us at gbnews.com/yoursay and we'll help you. last week, the taliban's for minister virtue banned adult women from speaking with each other. it's the latest in a long line of crackdowns by the taliban, as women's rights continue to be eroded in afghanistan. now to discuss this, i'm delighted to be joined by the human rights campaigner and author yasmin mohammed . and author yasmin mohammed. yasmeen, thanks so much for joining us. thank you so much for having me. when the taliban came back into power, when the americans withdrew from afghanistan, it was said that there was a taliban 2.0, that this was a more progressive taliban, that they wouldn't be so aggressive towards women. and they have just been making things worse and worse and worse. isn't that right? >> yeah, absolutely. as no surprise to any rational human being, this was expected. >> and women's rights in particular, of course. now women not being able to talk to each

other. so why is it do you think that people in the west didn't anticipate this? why didn't we see this coming? >> i mean, that's a really great question. i have no idea because in the time between the taliban before in the 90s and now we had al—qaeda, we had isis, we had all sorts of examples of the exact same kinds of people. but for whatever reason, they thought that these guys were going to be different. and they of course, not only did they do the exact same thing that they did before, but they've actually made it worse. you know, whereas before they were saying girls couldn't go to school. now on top of that, they've added girls can't even leave the house, they can't even leave the house, they can't go to the park, they can't ride in taxis, they can't drive cars, you know, they can't speak to each other. their voices can't be heard. i mean, it's absolutely insane. >> so is there more that people in the west and campaigners in the west can be doing? because i've seen a number of articles in publications like the guardian saying that wearing the huabis guardian saying that wearing the hijab is an empowering thing. when we had the women's march in 2017, it was a woman in a hijab. as the symbol of that march. how does that make you feel? >> that makes me feel incredibly

betrayed, incredibly sad, incredibly angry. there are women right now that are languishing in prisons, women that have been killed, that have been beaten to death over the hijab. we're not talking about history. we're talking about currently right now. and yet they can still pretend that this is some sort of symbol of women's empowerment. you know, how can how can you? so blatantly lie when these women are suffering? just today in iran, there is a young woman in tehran university who was being harassed by the morality police at her university, and they were pulling on her hijab. and so she got so frustrated, she pulled off the rest of her clothes, and then she walked around her campus in, in in such anger. but also in fierce defiance of their rules. >> i think we have some imagery of that protester and i think this is a particularly good example of someone who is so incredibly courageous to sort of stand there and let's have a look now at this image. we . put

look now at this image. we. put. now, yasmin, i know that in that clip, she's then eventually detained. and of course, there are this group called the morality police. and i mean, she's really putting her life on the line, isn't she? >> she is. absolutely. and how many more women have to continue to put their lives on the line? how many women were out for the women life freedom movement all across the world? speaking up for mahsa amini, who was beaten to death by the morality police over hijab , how many more times over hijab, how many more times do we have to say this over and over and over again? how many women have to die before people start to pay attention? >> so is it because people in the west feel that it might be deemed islamophobic or racist to criticise these other countries? >> absolutely. that's exactly what it is. but you have the same issue here in the uk, where they thought it was racist to

criticise the pakistani rape gangs and therefore they left those poor girls to continue to be you know, in rape gangs for years. girls as young as eight years. girls as young as eight years old and 11 years old, they will throw these women under the bus. they will. they're not interested in protecting women. they're not interested in protecting victims. they're interested in protecting the ideology. they're interested in protecting these extremist men who are the ones who are the perpetrators of these crimes against these women. it's absolutely insane. >> and you've got personal experience. of course. you were in a forced marriage with an al—qaeda operative, and you came from a background where your your mother at that point was very, very devout. how difficult is it to leave that kind of role? religion? yeah. >> no, that's a really great question. people ask it all the time, and the only thing i can liken it to is asking, why don't more people escape from north korea? it's really that bad. it is not only the mental, you know, prison that you're in because you're indoctrinated into this. you're indoctrinated to believe that you are lesser

than and you believe that as well. absolutely. i was told that there are ahadith that the prophet of allah has said that women are less intelligent than men . there are areas in the men. there are areas in the quran that tell men that they can beat their wives if they fear from them arrogance, or if they disobey them. there are areas in the quran that say that men are the guardians of women, and these are the areas that are used in places like saudi arabia and pakistan, and afghanistan. and you know, all over to keep women down. >> and yet iran, before the revolution, women could wear whatever they wanted. i mean, and things seem to be getting worse rather than better across the arab world. >> absolutely. and that's because now they have the islamic regime of iran and so this is why when you see things that are happening in iran and we can say, well, it's also happening in afghanistan, it's also happening in saudi arabia. and it's also happening in pakistan. these are all countries that people speak different languages. they have different languages. they have different cultures. they have different cultures. they have different traditions, they have different traditions, they have different food, they have

different food, they have different history. what is the one common thread that they all have in common? islam. >> and yet the criticism of islam is a real taboo . i mean, islam is a real taboo. i mean, in the uk we've had a cross—party support for a definition of islamophobia, which is a form of racism about muslimness or perceived muslimness. what do you make of that definition? >> first of all, islam is not a race, it's a religion. and like i just explained, there are people from all over the world. you can be somali, egyptian, indonesian. these are all different races. these are all different races. these are all different people all over the world. and so islam is not a race, it's an ideology . and to race, it's an ideology. and to criminalise criticising an ideology is i mean, this is the name of your show , right? like name of your show, right? like this is, this is you're now infringing on people's rights. can we not criticise communism? can we not criticise communism? can we not criticise conservatism? can we not criticise anything ? why is it criticise anything? why is it this is the sacred cow? >> so, so anti—muslim bigotry exists though. absolutely. and that could be the way that we describe it rather than islamophobia, i suppose. >> absolutely. that's right. and we already do have those things

in place. we already do have laws against bigotry, against people based on their immutable characteristics. you know, whether it be the male female, you know, gay , straight, their you know, gay, straight, their age, their religion, their skin colour, we already have those in place. >> so what can actually be done? because like you say, escaping from north korea, it feels like an impossible thing to do . these an impossible thing to do. these women are in that similar position. what what can possibly be done to improve their lives? >> great question. thank you so much for asking it. when women speak up in these countries, as they do all the time, instead of supporting the oppressors and the perpetrators of these crimes , the perpetrators of these crimes, how about we support these women instead? when you have women in eqypt instead? when you have women in egypt who are trying to make beating your wife a criminal offence, or when you have women in iraq who are fighting against the parliament, who want to claw back the age of marriage from 18 to 9 years old, support those women, support the open minded ,

women, support the open minded, liberal minded, progressive minded people in these countries instead of supporting the extremists , which is, as you extremists, which is, as you said earlier on, that's exactly what they do when they support groups like the taliban. >> well, i think that's a really compelling point that you make. and where can people find out more about you and your writing and that kind of thing? >> yeah. so my book is called unveiled how the west empowers radical muslims, which is exactly what we're talking about here today. and you can find it on amazon.co.uk and you can go to my website, asma mohammed.com to my website, asma mohammed.com to learn about my other work that i'm doing, including a podcast where i speak to many other people like me. >> fantastic. yasmin mohammed, thanks so much forjoining me . thanks so much forjoining me. and next on free speech nation, we'll be speaking to the comedian tyler fisher, who was banned for life from delta airline after posting a joke on x. don't go anywhere . x. don't go anywhere. >> court cases a presidential dropout. >> assassination attempts.

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>>i >> i say welcome back to free speech nation with me andrew doyle. >> now across the pond, comedian tyler fisher has been banned. yes, banned from flying with delta airlines for life. he got banned because he made a joke on x about the airline. we've got a little clip of him talking about it. >> holy . >> holy. >> holy. >> i just got banned from delta airlines for the rest of my life

for a joke. i put on x . for a joke. i put on x. >> hey, mr fisher, this is jesse with delta airlines . you have with delta airlines. you have been placed on delta's permanent no fly list. and your upcoming travel on august 11th has been cancelled. >> i got banned from one of the biggest airlines in the world for making a joke. nothing happened on the plane. this is it right here. i'm going to show you. that's the. that's the tweet right there. >> and i'm delighted to say, tyler fisher joins me now. tyler, welcome to the show. firstly, that was a week ago. are you still banned from delta airlines or have you sorted it out? >> i am, and i'm just packing because i have to take a few trucks. i dressed like a trucker. i'm taking trucks and trains. i'm still banned from delta airlines. i, i did finally receive a call from them. they said they wanted to have an important talk , which i assumed important talk, which i assumed was going to be some sort of woke virtue signal shaming. you know, they said they're going to

allow me to appeal right on. on monday . and i said, well, you monday. and i said, well, you you said it was a permanent lifetime ban. and they said, well, that's just the language well, that's just the language we use. so, as you know, with the very woke left language means nothing. gender means nothing. they're permanent. banned apparently identifies as a possible partial ban. >> well, look, tyler , i've had >> well, look, tyler, i've had a permanent suspension on twitter, and i came back . tell me though, and i came back. tell me though, like, is it because you were joking about the lgbtqia to plus movement? is that really what this is about? that it's because of it's a protected characteristic. >> yeah. you actually left out a couple symbols. there's an umlaut. there's now an umlaut, added andrew. absolutely , added andrew. absolutely, absolutely. for example, delta just changed their policy to ban all flag pins because somebody took a photo of a palestinian pin and a basically categorised them as terrorists . so delta them as terrorists. so delta didn't ban that customer. they

banned the pins. yeah, i made a joke about the pride pin. they banned the customer. so i think we all know what's happening, which is it's a protected group and free speech. i thought was allowed in my country. but we're looking more like you guys now. >> yeah, but you weren't you weren't having a go at someone for being gay. you were making a joke about the very idea that it's relevant to a passenger to know who the steward is sleeping with, which i think is a fair point . point. >> exactly. yeah, yeah . and >> exactly. yeah, yeah. and yeah, i wasn't i wasn't making fun of the sexuality. i also, under the tweet said i wouldn't want to see a straight pride pin. you know, i wouldn't want, you know, the pilot to have, hey , you know, the pilot to have, hey, i'm proud of my missionary. you know, i don't care. and it was a joke. but even if it wasn't a joke, you would think you'd be able to at least question it. but apparently not at delta. >> but tyler , you've made a >> but tyler, you've made a career now and become very well

known by joking about these things. and that's because is that because so, so many comedians just won't go near it? >> yeah. and for me, like i was always a very silly impressionist and i didn't really do anything controversial the last time i was on your show, we talked about a lawsuit thatis show, we talked about a lawsuit that is three years later, still pending , that is three years later, still pending, where i was denied acting in comedy representation because they said, we're not willing to hire a straight white male. i recorded that phone call and i'm taking them to the supreme court. so a lot of my comedy is actually just a reaction to what's happening. i didn't set out to create controversy or get banned from an airline. these are just basic human rights, like being able to be a white man and be an actor, or being able to ask a question or being able to ask a question orjoke about or being able to ask a question or joke about a or being able to ask a question orjoke about a rainbow pin. >> and i mean, that's quite a serious case. so you're saying it's still going on? it hasn't gotten to the supreme court, but

that could establish a precedent, could it not? because surely discrimination by skin colour is illegal in the us. >> absolutely illegal. but again, the woke left is creating these subset of made up rules that people seem to be following. and so i can't really say how it's going to turn out. ihope say how it's going to turn out. i hope that, you know, the jury agrees you can't make an exception. you know, just because i look like i stormed the capitol in a tesla doesn't mean i'm an evil white guy. so yeah , it's a it's a wild time. yeah, it's a it's a wild time. and if kamala gets in, strap in. because all of this stuff is going to get turned up. that's why you got to go vote. andrew. you could even come vote. you don't have to be a citizen. we'll fly you out and you can vote. i'll bring you in myself. >> but you know, you'll have a lot more material if that happens. so you're on tour at the moment. are you actually performing at the moment or is this really stunted things? >> yeah, yeah, i'm in cleveland. >> yeah, yeah, i'm in cleveland. >> i've definitely no, i've,

i've actually lost over $10,000 from delta cancelling flights. me not being able to you know, delta is a big one. so yeah. but i'm just i'm finding a way. i'm performing in cleveland tonight. yeah. i'll be in in san diego in missouri and everything is on my website . but also i'm shadow website. but also i'm shadow banned online right now. that's why i wear this hat with my instagram handle, because you have to check it out. >> yeah, tyler, that's all we got time for. but people will check you out. tyler fisher, everyone. >> thanks so much for having me. >> thanks so much for having me. >> that's the end of our first hour on free speech nation. don't go anywhere . don't go anywhere. >> heavy showers first thing will be followed by a warm, cosy day . boxt will be followed by a warm, cosy day. boxt boilers will be followed by a warm, cosy day . boxt boilers sponsors of day. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello there. good evening. this is your latest gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. we've been searching for the colour amongst the grey clouds this weekend and that is

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>> there's plenty more still to come on free speech nation this week, but let's get a news update first from tatiana sanchez. >> andrew, thank you very much. the top stories. well, some breaking news into us in the last few minutes that gb news understands that rebecca harris will be the new shadow chief whip. more on that breaking story as we get it. meanwhile, kemi badenoch says she'll tell hard truths to both the country and her party as she began her first full day as conservative leader. she's vowed to ensure a fresh start for the party ahead of announcing her shadow cabinet. she's also said partygate was overblown and the government should not have fined people for everyday activities dunng people for everyday activities during lockdown . kemi badenoch during lockdown. kemi badenoch won more than 53,000 votes in the contest, whilst her rival robert jenrick received 41,000. miss badenoch is expected to

name her shadow cabinet in the coming days. ahead of that first meeting on tuesday with former contenders robert jenrick, tom tugendhat , mel stride and dame tugendhat, mel stride and dame priti patel reportedly open to frontbench positions . elsewhere, frontbench positions. elsewhere, labour mp dawn butler shared a social media post accusing kemi badenoch of representing white supremacy in blackface shortly before she was elected as the new tory leader. the brent east mp has since deleted the repost from her account. neither downing street nor dawn butler have made any comments. >> she's a race baiter. why is she still got the whip? >> look, that's up to labour. i mean, do you think genuinely, i genuinely think that given what she said, she should have the whip removed from her. there should be some discipline and some disciplinary measure against this kind of really hateful device. >> i was reminded. >> i was reminded. >> a joint investigation from both channel 4 and the sunday times has revealed the full details of the property estates owned by king charles and prince william. the investigation shows

the vast array of commercial property the royal family has built up from the time of medieval monarchs. their contracts with public bodies are said to include a £37 million agreement with the ministry of justice, and an £11.4 million deal with guy's and st thomas nhs trust. a spokesman for the duchy of cornwall said it was a private estate with a commercial imperative, while the duchy of lancaster said their business complies with all relevant uk legislation and regulatory standards . well, that comes as standards. well, that comes as prince william's travels to south africa this week for his earthshot prize award ceremony. that prize is hoped to recognise environmental solutions to repair the planet . now, protests repair the planet. now, protests have erupted in valencia as king felipe visited areas affected by recent flash flooding. residents shouted murderers! when the king and queen arrived in the area and queen arrived in the area and mud was also thrown towards the monarch. the deadliest flash floods in spain's modern history have killed at least 214 people.

dozens are still unaccounted for four days after torrential rains swept the eastern region of valencia . now there are just two valencia. now there are just two days to go until the us election and shock polling from a traditionally republican. iowa has placed democratic candidate kamala harris ahead of donald trump by three points. it comes as kamala harris appeared overnight in a comedy sketch on saturday night live in new york, where comedian maya rudolph, dressed as the current vice president, polls elsewhere in states such as pennsylvania and michigan , show the two michigan, show the two candidates are tied ahead of election day on tuesday . and election day on tuesday. and those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm tatiana sanchez. more from me in an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gb news. >> .com. forward slash alerts .

>> .com. forward slash alerts. >> .com. forward slash alerts. >> welcome back to free speech nafion >> welcome back to free speech nation with me andrew doyle. let's get some more questions from the audience. our first question has actually come in from email. this is from martin ji. martin ji says did robert jenrick go too far? okay. but this is presumably his comments about former colonies and how they should be thanking us for they should be thanking us for the legacy of empire. and of course, this is, i suppose, to do with the debate about slavery , do with the debate about slavery, reparations and all the rest of it. what do you make of that? did he go too far? >> no, i don't think he went too far at all. i think people need to recognise that britain didn't invent slavery, but we did invent slavery, but we did invent ending slavery. we were the first country to ban slavery, and thousands of british soldiers and navy men died fighting to end to enforce the end of slavery. and we also, as a country, we paid a huge amount. and i think this call for reparations is really dangerous because it's saying that people should be divided to according, according to their

country, according to national background, or according to ethnic background and also people are responsible for things that other people did, not even people related to them. but like you know, people who just, you know, were from the same, same country. so that's making a really nationalist point. that's i mean, that's pure nationalism. and pure, you know, sort of ethnography as well. >> how do you how do you quantify it? how do you decide who gets the reparations? who do the turks give reparations to because of the ottoman empire? do i get reparations because my ancestors were were enslaved and killed in ireland? who gets what exactly? >> i mean , everybody's enslaved >> i mean, everybody's enslaved everybody else at certain points. everybody's ancestors have probably been a slave . have probably been a slave. they're only a tiny fraction of a percent of people in the uk who owned slaves . and we had who owned slaves. and we had berber slavery. we had viking slavery, we had roman slavery. so, you know, i mean, if we try and unpick all this and work out who owes what, we're going to be here all night, it's trying to work after going for a meal with lewis. >> yeah, i mean, it's interesting, lewis, because how

how do we know it's true? it's difficult to quantify. there's that element, isn't there . but that element, isn't there. but also there are actual slave trades going on in the world today. wouldn't it be better to focus our energies on stopping that rather than talking about people who aren't alive anymore? >> maybe. but we can't do that because they're coming after the engush because they're coming after the english people who brought more good the second greatest country in the history of the world is england. >> what's the first? >> what's the first? >> first, scotland should be the romans, the romans, the romans. yeah. and? and any country where england has been to has left a residue of goodness. >> but you can see in recent history. but wait a minute. >> we came in there late . if >> we came in there late. if they had just listened to listen to it. >> okay, but what about wait, what about i mean, there are some cases in recent history. so for instance, the policy of redlining housing allocation in certain states in america disproportionately affected black families who are today living with the impact of that . living with the impact of that. that's true, isn't it? so couldn't we do something? isn't that a form of reparations that might be justifiable? >> i think, you know, if you're

going back decades and decades and decades, then you know it really becomes it becomes too hard to sort of, you really becomes it becomes too hard to sort of , you know, give hard to sort of, you know, give any reparations or say anything . any reparations or say anything. right. and also, we've got to accept that, you know, sometimes the world is unfair and you've got to just pull on your big boy pants and deal with it. >> and anybody and anybody who asks for reparations, you might consider just killing them. yeah. >> lewis, i every time you say something like that , i have to something like that, i have to point out that lewis doesn't mean anything. >> he says he's not, in fact, calling for any violence there whatsoever. no, i'm not calling for it, but i think i think the fact is, i think just let it go. >> there's a saying every dog has its day. andrew, let's move on to a question from stephanie. >> stephanie, where are you? hello. hi. >> should rachel reeves apologise for raising our taxes? >> it's an interesting one. and with the budget of course, we, you know, the rachel reeves and the labour party kept saying that they weren't going to be doing this kind of thing. they've reneged on a lot, to be fair to labour. they say they've inherited a lot of these problems from the conservatives . problems from the conservatives. that's what this budget was about. don't you think that's

fair? >> yeah. we inherited a lot of problems, so we're going to make them worse. i mean, it's not the it's not the best pitch i've ever heard from a from a government. no, i mean, what this country desperately needed was the, the civil service, the pubuc was the, the civil service, the public sector to be to be slashed back and made much more efficient . and, and some, you efficient. and, and some, you know, obviously some purposes in the civil service are just completely useless. we don't need an arts council. we don't need an arts council. we don't need diversity coordinators. there's so much that can just be so much dead wood that can just be slashed away. each local authority doesn't need a policy department. what's what's camden's policy going to be different to islington's policy? they need different people writing it. so there's so much wastage. there's so much money sloshing around in the public sector. and instead our government is going to make it more so. before the pandemic, our the sheer gdp spent by the government was below 39% of gdp. after this, labour government is going to be 44% of gdp. it's insane. we're just the state is getting bigger and bigger and bigger. it's like hiring a it's

like they've come in like it's like they've come in like it's like somebody losing a job and then, oh, i've lost my job. i'm going to hire a butler. it's like, no, you need to cut back on your living expenses. >> but how on earth do they think that all of this will kick start the economy? i mean, i think they think it's they don't want it to kick start the economy. >> they want everybody dependent on the government, whether that's either in a public sector job or on welfare. i mean, what they're doing is actually slashing, they're slashing back. they're taxing investment. i mean, private investors know where to allocate money, allocate capital to get the best growth for the economy. and they're taxing that. they're going to they're going to restrict that. i mean, if they had any sense they'd be cutting taxes for private investors. >> let's move on to some balance. well, i mean, lewis, i want you to defend the labour party here and defend the budget and defend rachel reeves. >> where are you going? i'll defend her because everyone knows how horrible those people are. so why should she apologise for being as horrible as people thought she was going to be? >> i mean, it's an interesting form of defence. >> it is . it is nonetheless. >> it is. it is nonetheless. people know how horrible the left is. okay , what who who left is. okay, what who who deserves to be. who deserves a

lot of the left wing voters don't think they're horrible. >> that's why they voted for them. >> so why should they? they don't have to give an apology to those people because they think, well, that's what there needs to be done. the labour believes like magic money and just keep on spending money. it'll come out of the thing. >> so you think this budget is just a manifestation of evil? >> well, they are evil, but what makes them less evil than the tories is you had higher expectations for the tories and they just. >> no, i think left wing, left wing voters are motivated by envy and bitterness and so many of these policies like like putting vat on private schools. if you're a send your kid to private school, you've already paid for a place in a state school, and you're taking the burden off the state. >> but wait a minute, you don't think maybe that both sides are. neither are evil. they just think that they have a different idea about how to run the world and how to make things better. >> so people shouldn't be allowed to have the education of their choice. they're choosing for their own children. i mean, i don't think that's i think they think it's for the best. i think, well, i think that's an evil thing. i think, you know, thinking, you know, best for other people is an evil point of view. darth vader thought he knew best for the people of

tatooine. >> maybe darth vader was misunderstood. >> so now you're. but he's calling me evil because i know better than better than you are evil. >> you have a black heart. >> you have a black heart. >> yes, i have a black heart. because i know best these people don't know best british people. you shouldn't ask them to apologise. because the people who. who are their followers don't need an apology. and it's not going to work for the rest. the fact is, tories should apologise for covid for climate change. >> you've gone on to the tories now, is there anyone you like? >> yeah. somebody who's going to say we're going to fight for the picts, the vikings and the vikings? vikings , the angles, vikings? vikings, the angles, the saxons, the jutes, the normans, maybe the few residual romans that are still living here, the nigerian centurion living down my road. actually, you know what? someone should fight for that guy. >> absolutely should. okay. let's move on. because i do feel sorry for him wearing that helmet. yeah. anyway, let's move on. now to a question from rachel. where's rachel? hiya. >> hi. should schools concentrate on teaching children rather than what their background is? >> yeah, this is an interesting one, because apparently schools are now going to be marked down by ofsted. ofsted is the school inspectorate. if they've got too many middle class children. leo,

do you think that's fair? no, not at all. >> i mean, this is this is another example of labour just cutting down aspiration. the british dream is that you can work and scrimp and save to buy a semi—detached house in an area where you can, you can be middle class and send your kid to a nice school and now you can't even do that here. >> what's the thought process behind this? >> the thought process is nobody should be allowed to excel. everybody's got to be the same level of mediocrity. you're not allowed to have any, you know , allowed to have any, you know, two middle class people get together. they might they might conspire and start a functioning business. >> wouldn't it be better to just bnng >> wouldn't it be better to just bring back the old grammar school system, where working class kids could actually get somewhere, you know, wouldn't that be a better system, more social mobility? >> first of all, i don't i don't understand the terms that you're using in this country. what a grammar school is or a middle in fact, is i don't even know what you mean by middle class and middle class in america means someone who makes like a $50,000 a year. >> i thought it was more like doctors and lawyers and that kind of. >> no, it has to do with how much money you make. you call

yourself middle class, a factory worker back in the day before those before the american industrial base was destroyed were middle class. so here when you use that, you're thinking of a certain thing middle class evil. whereas kamala harris is using it even though she she wasn't. well, she says she's middle class. >> yeah. she's. yes. >>— >> yeah. she's. yes. >> because that means something goodin >> because that means something good in america. in this country, it just means something bad.the country, it just means something bad. the truth is, the truth is the government should be getting out of the business of like, sort of vetting schools of how good they are. we shouldn't have anything. >> you shouldn't have ofsted ofsted. >> no, you could you could have a private thing. you could have an independent website. that's great. my school is my school a good school? >> well, they do have things like that. >> yeah. so why should the government be spending our money to do that? and why should the government be owning schools? why should they be? >> so you think all schools should be private schools? yes. >> okay. we don't need because you bit to the public schools. my you bit to the public schools. my kids went to schools in peckham and just any good horrible. what do you think any good? >> well, i've met your kids. they turned out pretty smart, didn't they? >> well, smart for british people. >> okay, let's get a question now from hugh. where's hugh? hi.

>> yeah. was that too much? a bit too much. >> ignoring. >> ignoring. >> never too much with the national trust being so woke nowadays. do we even trust them with the nation's culinary heritage, let alone buildings? >> they're going for a vegan meal. they want 50% of the cafeterias in national trust properties to become vegan . i properties to become vegan. i mean, hugh, you make a point about, you know, they've been pushing sort of various woke ideologies for a long time now. this is now the vegan ideology. but the thing is, they're not really playing to their base, are they? because it's mostly elderly people who just want, you know, a shepherd's pie. >> they want a slice of gammon. yeah, yeah they do. and it's i think it's ridiculous. i mean, vegan food isn't isn't real food anyway. it's the food you put on your plate next to your real food and you scrape into the bin. once you've eaten your real food, it's a little they should have vegan options, right? a little vegan, little vegan cooking tip if you mix some tahini in with your vegan food, it actually makes it easier to scrape into the bin afterwards. >> be a nice tip, but this is the national trust. >> this shouldn't be. they shouldn't be dictating. and also they're also going to be going

on about net zero and stuff like that. you know, for vegan food you've got to have completely different cooking utensils. you've got to use different oil and all the rest of it. you can't frighten the same pan as you just fried pork sausages in. so all that is going to mean the carbon footprint is going to go up. yeah. >> interesting. what do you make of this ? you don't go to these of this? you don't go to these sort of stately homes or anything though, do you? >> well, i used to go to the stately homes until they, you had to be stately in order to pay had to be stately in order to pay to get into these. it's because they banned you. >> because. >> because. >> no, they're so expensive. the truth is, is i'm surprised they still have stately homes. they haven't torn them down and that they, you know, because they because there's heritage. yeah. because they hate the heritage. the heritage of old picts and jutes and vikings and cornwall people really on one tonight. because this is i realised what the issue is. it's the discovery, the truth is the truth is, is, is that i'm surprised is okay. there we go. >> whenever lewis says the truth is, you know, i don't absolutely no idea. >> i know i agree, i agree with with leo on this vegan food. if you eat vegan food, you deserve to die .

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welcome back to free speech nafion welcome back to free speech nation with me. andrew doyle. so the us election is nearly upon us as america prepares to go to the polls on tuesday in one of the polls on tuesday in one of the most consequential elections in recent memory. current predictions show that it's too close to call in the all important swing states. we'll, of course, be covering the election throughout the night on gb news, but now let's get the latest with a democratic strategist, bob wiener , and strategist, bob wiener, and former republican congressional nominee jake hunsaker. welcome to the show, gentlemen. bob , i to the show, gentlemen. bob, i want to come to you. first. you must be thrilled that it's looking like kamala harris is up in the polls in iowa. do you think she's got this one in the bag? >> well, the iowa des moines register poll is the gold standard. >> and for a state where she was

down to be up by three in the latest poll, you know, most people have closed down the polling already and they're not they're not actually doing it anymore. the major papers, the des moines register did, the trending is everything. and that's what happened in 2016 when trump won, was the late trending went toward him and the polling wasn't showing. it . so polling wasn't showing. it. so here we are showing it. and the reason is i've seen the worst close of any campaign i've ever seen in my life, with the garbage comment calling everybody against him, garbage protect women. whether you like it or not. hey, every woman and every man who loves a woman loves to hear that. especially with a guy who wants to grab you by, you know what? and to shoot to claim that cheney should have nine rifles trained at her and executed. what a what a dumb way to close out a campaign. so what's happened is he has scared the late comers. >> bob scared you do you do acknowledge that he wasn't suggesting she should be in a firing squad. he was suggesting that cheney might change her

policy on international military intervention if she were herself fighting in a war. that's clearly what he was saying, right? >> oh, seriously, did you listen to the clip? because that's not what he said. i it came later when he realised, oops, i gotta clean this one up. and suddenly the back half of i don't think you're right came in. >> i think it was very clear what he said. >> i led off with a nine rifles trained at her. i don't care what his reasoning was. nine rifles trained at liz cheney. that's what he said. and he can't get away from saying it. >> the other point i want to make on that, do you accept what bob is saying there that however, you know, whatever his intentions were behind these kind of gaffes, that the phrasing of that isn't very good and a lot of people are turned off trump when he when he makes his kind of points. >> you know what i've heard from colleagues and from voters is that republican voters who support trump typically take him very seriously. but downplay the seriousness of his words. democrat voters are opposite . democrat voters are opposite. they really, really take very seriously the words trump uses downplay him as a figure, as a politician . and i think in 2016,

politician. and i think in 2016, obviously the country got it wrong. the pollsters got it wrong. the pollsters got it wrong. look, tim walz was on record saying just yesterday to his campaign staff, don't follow the roller coaster in these last couple of days, the polls have been misleading. before they could be, you know, misleading. again, iowa is a surprise . but again, iowa is a surprise. but obviously we want directional a sense of where the campaigns are trending. look this morning and i'm no denier donald trump is in a little bit of damage control right now. this morning, his campaign coming out condemning his remarks about him not minding if the media, the fake news media, needed to take some bullets for him at some point. you know, words along those lines. look, you know, i'm a republican. i'm a conservative, i'm not stupid, and i'm i obviously hear the words trump says they are problematic. the behaviour that he exhibits over and over is actually counter to what pollsters expect presidential candidates to do in the last 48, 72 hours of their campaign. but it has served him well in the past. we'll see how

it pans out. this time. >> but, jake, if that is the case and if we all agree that trump has the tendency to say things that are going to alienate a significant proportion of the electorate, why should why should he have a chance in this? why do you think he still has a hope? >> you know what's interesting? i was reading an article yesterday, just yesterday in the new york times that indicated that the demographic shifts, the willingness of voters to follow identity political lines is diminishing, as you know. and they did, you know , review they did, you know, review analysis on 2020, 2016. people are much less woke inside of themselves when they take stock of their own opinions than they profess to be externally. voters behave differently externally than they do internally, and that's why donald trump has a shot here. because, look, you know, even our country's even split right now. swing states evenly split . he's not a fringe evenly split. he's not a fringe figure. his rhetoric is not fringe. it resonates with a certain subset of the american

voter base . and he. voter base. and he. >> let me bring bob in bin in on that because i want to ask you specifically about kamala harris, because, of course, a lot of democrats had huge reservations about kamala harris back when they thought it would have been biden running, you know, and she dropped out of the primary early because she wasn't going to get any votes. you know, this hasn't historically been a popular candidate. do you think something has changed? >> yes . jay is 100% right that >> yes. jay is 100% right that voters aren't following political lines. they are following cult lines now. and it's he's right that it's less about the politics. that's why nbc just today came out with a poll showing that the undecideds are breaking 10 to 15% in these last days toward harris new poll just today. that's the trending. that's what counts. and i've said all along, you remember, andrew, that the harris , the andrew, that the harris, the nikki haley votes the 10 to 15% at the end, that even when she

was out of the race, didn't vote for trump. and the 30% that voted for her when she was in, they will not tell pollsters that they are actually going to for vote harris. and the republicans are enormous for harris, there's no democrats for trump, there's the republicans for harris. and those are all the national security and former people in his in his cabinet. and this thing is breaking. i feel like this is now going to be a five point win, a larger than expected win for harris. that's my latest connection. >> that's very interesting. but can i ask you, bob, because you rightly pointed out that some of trump's rhetoric is ill advised , trump's rhetoric is ill advised, to say the least, but is it not also similarly ill advised that the harris campaign has been calling everyone fascists, calling everyone fascists, calling everyone fascists, calling everyone nazis? i mean, that kind of thing can be really alienating, given that fascism is a very specific historical thing. it's not really applicable to the more authoritarian tendencies of donald trump, is it? >> millie and kelly, the two

four star generals closest to trump , both said he four star generals closest to trump, both said he is four star generals closest to trump , both said he is fascist trump, both said he is fascist and kelly and millie both brought out the dictionary and went to the authoritarian routine and firing and victimising and imprisoning your opponents. that's what fascist does. opponents. that's what fascist does . that's what fascist is. does. that's what fascist is. and that's what trump tried to do at the end of his 2016 term, when his justice department refused and was threatening resignation , and then he had to resignation, and then he had to back off. he won't have that . back off. he won't have that. >> just a serious question, though, by that, by that standard, though, given that you know, obviously he was talking about locking hillary up but never actually did it when the democrats were cheerleading the manipulation of the law to imprison donald trump, does that not, therefore fulfil your criteria of fascism? >> it's not manipulating the law. when a jury of your peers calls you guilty, you're found guilty of abusing women. but the charge was serious, wasn't it? his foundation was closed . his his foundation was closed. his college was closed. this guy harris is right. she's prosecuted these kinds of guys

before . before. >> but it was beyond the statute of limitations. they had to literally hook it on to another allegation. >> and they closed. no, they closed his foundation. they closed his foundation. they closed his foundation. they closed his college, and he's found guilty of fraud in his in his company now. and he's look, this guy is scamming everybody to buy his bibles that are free when you get them in hotel rooms. >> jake, can i ask you about that? because you know, all of this rhetoric that's been thrown around fascist. to be fair, donald trump has also been calling has also been calling harris a fascist. and i would say that neither neither side are correct to call either fascist. jake, what do you think of all that ? of all that? >> you know, this goes back to my earlier point that the polling indicates that people don't really care about the rhetoric as much as and probably they should, to be honest. to bob's point, you know, some of this rhetoric is indefensible on both sides. the left has ratcheted up the rhetoric against donald trump, donald trump , that's his whole playbook trump, that's his whole playbook is rhetoric. and so the rhetoric needs to calm down on both sides. but listen , the rhetoric sides. but listen, the rhetoric is not pushing the polls right

now. it is policy. and bob should know better than anyone from the clinton era. it's the economy, stupid , that is economy, stupid, that is consistently voters. number one concern this election cycle outside of the drama of this sound bite, that sound bite, this campaign clean up, whatever you have happening in the last 48 hours. they know that prices have gone up. they know that it's harder to put food on the table. they know that we are not powerful trade partners anymore, and we are paying the price of that. as consumers. and we are paying the price of that. as consumers . look, and we are paying the price of that. as consumers. look, i'm as reluctant a republican in this dynamic as anyone, but i have to acknowledge as many voters in these swing states that times are tougher under a biden administration financially , administration financially, culturally, the conservatives have been penalised over and overin have been penalised over and over in the way that we've described. and these are the things that matter going into tuesday. >> okay. well, i can very much sense bob wanting to come in on that point. >> bob, the economy point is just not true. if you've driven around to your gas prices. now, i'm looking last night as i'm

driving 289 for gas under $3. pnces driving 289 for gas under $3. prices are down on gas, prices are down on food prices are down on housing. and the harris plan on housing. and the harris plan on the economy is to jack up things like biden did by the way, biden stopped the recession that all the economists said was going to happen. biden harris stopped the recession by jacking programs and funds into the economy. he gets no credit for that. he stopped a recession and now the world bank says the us is powering the world's entire economy. the international monetary fund says that and the economy is a lagging indicator. and it's coming around now. it is now coming around. >> so, jake, what can trump do to improve things if he were to get in, what do you think would be the main things that he would be the main things that he would be able to do, particularly with the economy ? the economy? >> look, i, you know , trump >> look, i, you know, trump could do himself a giant favour by staying on his talking points. will he do that? very likely not. but his talking points are valid there. the economy there, the sloppy border policies of the biden administration, the influx of illegal immigration. this is

just this is objectively the case that voters care about these things even in the aftermath of the puerto rico comments that trump that trump comedian made at madison square garden, we thought we would see fallout among latino voters . fallout among latino voters. what we're seeing is that latino voters in key areas like allentown, pennsylvania, even growing communities in georgia, certainly in nevada and arizona , certainly in nevada and arizona, they view the economy and the border as the number one issue. still, regardless of the rhetoric that trump and his campaign. >> but, jake, i understand your point that you're saying that the rhetoric is sort of beside the rhetoric is sort of beside the point and actually there are more substantial issues that people should be talking about and that voters care about. but it is true , is it not, that on it is true, is it not, that on both sides the temperature has been raised? i mean, we've had assassination attempts for goodness sake, and is it the case that after this election, either way that it goes , that do either way that it goes, that do you really believe that the other party will accept the result? because i have a sneaking suspicion that whichever, however the outcome is, it's going to be denied strenuously by each party? >> well, only one party has a

track record of denying election results and that's unfortunately mine. and so i'm going to give bob a point on this one. you know, i have i'm from utah and in utah we have a different brand of conservatism. we were a little bit reluctant on the trump train. we watched 2021, january 6th, very , very january 6th, very, very concerned. and we are taking many politicians on my side of the aisle have taken an oath, a pledge to accept the results of tuesday's election, whatever they are . and so i have to be they are. and so i have to be very adamant, very clear that, you know , only one party has you know, only one party has shown a reluctance to do this. and unfortunately, it's mine. i don't support that. >> but you don't you don't think hillary clinton was very sceptical about the result in 2016? and you don't think that nancy pelosi has said that this was this was a this was not legitimate. i mean, nancy pelosi did describe it as not legitimate, did she? not that result. >> hillary is a friend of mine. and she put into her book that that it was the comey news conference ten days before that flipped ten points. she accepts the results as they happened .

the results as they happened. but the reason they happened was comey's friendship with giuliani , comey's friendship with giuliani, who got his friends to call, you know, a star. that's what happenedin know, a star. that's what happened in that situation. >> but you know what? let me go back to let me get back to on on on tuesday. whatever happens, both parties have an opportunity to either put their heads in the sand or to recalibrate. and if trump wins, democrats will have a very, very poignant moment to recalibrate and recenter on what matters. they are losing minorities in droves. they are losing rustbelt workers in droves. and they've got to acknowledge that. now, if trump loses on tuesday, republicans have to acknowledge we're losing suburbs, we're losing college educated voters. we are not resonating with young voters. and the trump strategy now, if he loses on tuesday, will have lost us two presidential elections. we haven't taken the senate in three cycles. if we lose it on tuesday and so really, there will be a moment of reckoning if trump loses ,

of reckoning if trump loses, both parties should go, you know , both parties should go, you know, move on very quickly from denial and on to problem solving . and on to problem solving. >> well, let me ask bob specifically about that. so if it is the case that the democrats don't win in tuesday's election, do you think there will be that kind of soul searching? do you think they will say, well, why are we losing minorities? why are we losing minorities? why are we losing the working class? or do you think they might just double down and make things worse? >> well, for the record, harris has said if she loses, she will accept the results . trump has accept the results. trump has neverin accept the results. trump has never in his life said that number one and number two, the real movement here is, as many have said on on tv now, that people don't want the government and trump in their wombs, their classrooms and in their privacy, and they certainly don't want him stealing their votes, which is what he's trying to do. and by the way, on those assassinations, some of the one, at least one of the two was a trump supporter, it turns out. so let's not blame it. it's a nut. those are nuts that do that. it wasn't any political feeling that i think that is contested , bob. contested, bob. >> i think it was someone who

was once registered with the with the trump side. but i don't think we can call it a trump supporter necessarily. okay. well, bob and jake, i really appreciate you coming to on discuss this and good luck on tuesday . okay. well, next on tuesday. okay. well, next on free speech nation, germany this week has joined the list of 17 countries that allow citizens to self—identify their gender. i'm going to be joined by rowena dewey, live from berlin

welcome back to free speech nafion welcome back to free speech nation with me andrew doyle germany this week has joined the list of 17 countries that allow citizens to self—identify their genden citizens to self—identify their gender. and this week, protesters gathered outside of the german embassy in london as the german embassy in london as the new self—determination act came into force. the law makes it easier for those who identify as trans and non—binary to

change their legal gender. so joining me now is author rowena doven joining me now is author rowena dover. rowena, thank you so much for joining me on the show. forjoining me on the show. >> thank you for having me. >> thank you for having me. >> rowena, can i just ask you, firstly, what is this new self—id law in germany and what are the implications? >> yes, al fayed means that any man can declare himself to be a woman. it's not only for persons who are transgender or something. it's for every citizen in germany and they can just determine their own sex entry in legal documents. and there is no check or no security check at all for this. like before, with the transsexuals act. >> and what does this mean for women's rights in germany? >> yeah, for women's rights, it means somehow that women's rights are abolished because women's rights rely on sex, because the oppression of women relies on sex, not on sexist

stereotypes, but on sex. and so if you , yeah, change the law if you, yeah, change the law like this and say , okay instead like this and say, okay instead of law instead of sex as a factor for law, we take gender identity. this is dangerous for women. >> women. >> am i understanding is that there are rather heavy penalties. people can be fined a great deal of money if they misgender someone, if they if they don't go along with the idea that someone can identify their own sex. isn't all of this quite authoritarian, quite draconian. i mean, this is the kind of thing that it feels like a you're taking away people or the government is taking away people's rights to free speech. for one thing. >> yes, we have also this impression . and so we made our impression. and so we made our protest also with the images of orwell, because it has something orwellian that we can't see, say what we see, if we see a man and that we have to fear that we get

a fine of up to ,10,000 if we do it. >> do you think that that will actually be imposed? i mean, from from our perspective here, it sounds incredible. the idea that you could get a ,10,000 fine for correctly identifying the sex of someone who happens to identify as a different sex. i mean, do you think they'll actually go through with it, or is this just scare tactics? >> no, they just started to do it. and we have the experience also in germany that these trans activists sue their way through the through the courts to get their will. so they are also reporting us regularly to police , reporting us regularly to police, like in uk, for example, with kelly jackson . and i think they kelly jackson. and i think they will do it and they are already doing it. they are already trying it in a women's gym in germany to sue themselves into the gym. >> i mean , that's astonishing to >> i mean, that's astonishing to heat >> i mean, that's astonishing to hear. so when people like yourself campaign against this, is there a sense of fear? is there a sense that they'll come after you next? and is that putting people off from speaking

out? >> yes. of course it is. a lot of women go anonymously because they fear to have consequences in their work, or also to get reported to police if they say something wrong. and i think that this fear is rising now , that this fear is rising now, and germany is the biggest economy, the largest economy in europe. so this is another thing , europe. so this is another thing, as if it is in belgium or in iceland. it's another situation here in germany. >> so what do you say to people who will say , well, what does it who will say, well, what does it matter how someone identifies? what does it matter if someone feels that they are a woman and wants to use women's facilities? why is that something that that you think is wrong? >> yeah, because women have the right to female only spaces and it's female only spaces exist because women have to fear male violence. and so we need these spaces. we also need these spaces. we also need these spaces to just be with each other. for example, lesbians. for lesbians. it's really

important that they still have their single—sex spaces. so this is the reason , for example, and is the reason, for example, and you've made this case very persuasively, and you've been making this case to the government through your protests. >> have you heard anything back from them? are the government listening to what you've got to say? >> no, we have the problem in germany that we have this no debate strategy, strategy that the media is not really reporting about us. yesterday they reported somehow about us again, that we are financed by via putin or financed via mexico. this is something new or that we are all right wing . and that we are all right wing. and yeah, they don't really see, they don't really have our perspective on the whole law. so you're being smeared in germany. >> yeah. so you're being you're being smeared. you're being lied aboutin being smeared. you're being lied about in order to discredit what you've got to say. yes, yes. >> we are the terfs like in uk very, very interesting . very, very interesting. >> and it's an interesting cautionary tale, i think, for what could happen here. rona,

thanks very much for joining me tonight. really appreciate it. yeah. >> thank you . >> thank you. >> thank you. >> so next on free speech nation it'll be time for social sensations and your unfiltered dilemmas. so please don't go anywhere . anywhere. >> court cases a presidential dropout, assassination attempts. >> this has been a us election. like no other. >> and if the polls are correct, it's on a knife edge on tuesday night. >> stay up with us. as the drama unfolds and america decides their next president, we'll discuss what it means for them, for the world, and for our special relationship. >> america decides tuesday night from 11 on gb news

>> welcome back to free speech nation. it's time for social

sensations. that's the part of the show where we look at what's been going viral this week on social media. first up, we've got this video we have identified as your greatest and biggest improvement areas. >> and what have you done to improve them so far ? improve them so far? >> yeah that's a really good question. give me a second to think about it. so i think my greatest weaknesses are my communication skills. so i'm continuously working on enhancing my ability to convey complex technical information really clearly and effectively . really clearly and effectively. >> i just think it's so fraudulent. i mean, the thing is , fraudulent. i mean, the thing is, i've been playing around with chatgpt to see what this is all about because i think it's going to take over the world. yeah, this just means that everything is going to have to be face to face now, you know , everyone's face now, you know, everyone's going to be cheating. no new university degree is going to mean anything because it's going to be invented by a computer. >> i've got some news for you. university degrees mean nothing already. i mean, they're all nonsense. like people are going to say, oh, this, this degree in transgender poetry isn't as meaningful anymore. nothing wrong with poetry. some of the some of the best poetry, although it often identifies as

prose. but yeah, this this stuff, i mean, i think i think actually being able to harness chatgpt harvest harness ai is probably more value than being able to answer stupid questions in an interview. >> what do you think would you use that? would you exploit a computer to cheat and get role? >> of course you would. i mean , >> of course you would. i mean, people do it now. they they use a computer. i remember back in the day when you had to type in, if you made a thing and you had to use correct type, whatever it was. >> yeah, that's a form of cheating. i suppose it is a form of better education than people wouldn't need. anyway. we've got to move on. let's get this next video. what's this next one all about ? about? >> take my pamela. the american people want to stop the chaos and end the drama with a cool new step to take back in our pyjamas and watch a rom kamala like legally blonde and start decorating for christmas. fa la la la la . because what do we

la la la. because what do we always say? keep calm and carry on. la la . on. la la. >> so kamala harris on saturday night live there is that not slightly cringe worthy? >> that is 100% cringe worthy. but half the half, the population don't think it's cnnge population don't think it's cringe worthy. really? >> no, they think not. >> no, they think not. >> i mean, because curling their butt because your toes are curled, that tells you what political side of the aisle you are. >> i'm not neither. >> i'm not neither. >> i'm not neither. >> i don't like either. it's like during nazi germany there were some people going, yeah, concentration camps. yeah, go for it. >> i think that's quite an extreme comparison. >> what do you think? >> what do you think? >> did you enjoy that sketch? did that make you chuckle? >> no, i mean the left can't meme and they can't do comedy enhen meme and they can't do comedy ehheni meme and they can't do comedy either. i mean, comedy is supposed to be especially something like saturday night live is supposed to be really digging into, you know , the digging into, you know, the satirical, satirical, really poking at kamala for this person, not just this sort of softball lob so she can knock it, knock it out of the park. it's disgusting. >> well, what year are you talking about, leo? it's 2024, louis. exactly. you've just woken up 1976. when it first

came out, it was brilliant. >> we've got time for another video, i think. let's have another quick look at this one. here it comes. oh, hi . here it comes. oh, hi. >> hi. you're so cute. >>— >> hi. you're so cute. >> what's your name? he's deaf. oh. i'm sorry. it's okay. okay. he still likes his candy. okay . he still likes his candy. okay. so we. >> okay? so a fake child to get free sweets. is that moral? >> that's what. it's not moral, but it's a great idea. i mean, that's brilliant. we've heard that. we've seen stealing candy from a baby is bad, but getting a fake baby to steal candy from just put it through a grinder. it's totally not stealt's adults. that's genius. i've seen just put it through a grinder. it's totally not steal candy from a fake baby to steal candy from adults. that's genius. i've seen them. i've seen them do this them. i've seen them do this with a mannequin, put it in, with a mannequin, put it in, like, paint it gold and pretend like, paint it gold and pretend it's a musical statue. it's a musical statue. >> what do you think, louis? >> what do you think, louis? don't you think that's a that's don't you think that's a that's a that's a red line, isn't it? i a that's a red line, isn't it? i mean, it's supposed to be. no, mean, it's supposed to be. no, it's. it's. >> i think it's perfectly fine >> i think it's perfectly fine because they're getting candy. because they're getting candy. they're going to die of they're going to die of diabetes. these parents. so diabetes. these parents. so screw them. let them get as much screw them. let them get as much candy as they want to. and then candy as they want to. and then when they die, they'll say, i when they die, they'll say, i wish we didn't do that. i mean, wish we didn't do that. i mean, for goodness sake, you've got a for goodness sake, you've got a way of putting a fun story and way of putting a fun story and

just put it through a grinder. just put it through a grinder. it's totally not fun. it's it's totally not fun. it's like giving out candy. it's so evil. it's evil, is it? >> it's evil. may as well give out poison. >> and it's american candy, which is like fake chocolate. >> did they give out raw meat? >> did they give out raw meat? >> yeah, that's right. don't give them ideas. i think louis would be well up for that. well, unfortunately, we haven't got time for unfiltered dilemmas this week, but we will have plenty next week. so make sure that you do send in your dilemmas to gb news .com forward slash your say and we'll handle those as and when they turn up next week. anyway, thanks ever so much for watching free speech nation. this was the week when americans prepared to go to the polls. germany went a bit backwards on women's rights and the tories got a new leader. thanks ever so

the tories got a new leader. thankyes,ar so the tories got a new leader. thankyes, exactly. that's picts. yes, exactly. that's what you do. >> yeah. the calendar or they can find me on louis schaefer twitter. >> i didn't want this to be an opportunity for you to plug your website. >> people want that. louis schaefer co.uk unbelievable. and lucy is lucy is in the process of making the new louis. >> i'm trying to do the end of the show. when you shut up. mark dolan's on in a minute. don't forget that headliners is on every night at 11:00. that's comedians taking you through the next day's news stories. thanks for watching. free speech nation. i'll see you next week . nation. i'll see you next week. >> we can expect clear skies leading to a light and warm day ahead. lovely boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello there . good evening. >> hello there. good evening. this is your latest gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. we've been searching for the colour amongst the grey clouds this weekend and that is

continuing right until the very last hours of the day. so a lot of grey skies for much of england, wales and northern ireland throughout this evening and overnight. the odd spot of drizzle will be out there the clearer skies will be reserved for the far north of scotland. here temperatures will drop off a little bit more. patchy frost is possible overnight. elsewhere, though, that blanket of cloud will hold temperatures up on the positive side of things. with high pressure in charge, it does mean we have relatively light winds across the board tomorrow, but we are still plagued by all of this cloud, so the skies are going to be pretty grey and drab for many of us. mostly dry. but i certainly can't rule out the odd spot of drizzle around in places, particularly around coasts and over the hills, where it could be quite murky at times. the best of the sunshine first thing will be likely again for the northern areas of scotland, but once we get into the afternoon, hopefully we should start to see the cloud breaking up a bit more, particularly for the likes of western northern ireland, parts of western wales and potentially cornwall as well. also, the far south—east of england. tapping into some of this clearing sky

across france as well, allowing that sunshine to poke through later on as well. temperatures will be roughly where we'd expect them to be for the time of year, topping up around 11 to 13 c. but certainly those that hold on to the cloud throughout the day will be feeling quite cool as we head throughout the week. high pressure is still in charge. it's going to keep these weather fronts at bay out in the atlantic, so it is again going to be mostly dry away from those outbreaks of drizzle that the cloud could be thick enough to produce in time. tuesday morning could be quite foggy in places. do watch out for potential. a little bit of disruption around at times, but again, widespread grey skies for a lot of us just hoping for those locations to potentially see a few brighter breaks in there at times. but really, the outlook throughout much of the week is for the cloud to remain. although temperatures may be coming up a little bit later on in the evening. but by we'll see a cold snap which will quickly develop into a warm front. >> boxt boiler repairs

>> good evening. >> good evening. >> it is 9:00 on television, on radio and online in the united kingdom and across the world. this is mark dolan tonight in my opinion . following labour's opinion. following labour's catastrophic halloween budget and after a raft of tax rises, never previously mentioned this new government is pathologically dishonest. well, don't worry, i'll be dropping a few truth bombs about sir keir starmer and his devious new administration in just a moment. in the big story, labour mp dawn butler is accused of racism as she shares accused of racism as she shares a post now deleted, which said that the tory leader, kemi badenoch , represents white badenoch, represents white supremacy in blackface. should sir keir starmer chuck her out of the party, as it's revealed he's making hundreds of millions of pounds from a property and