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officially concede trump to officially concede defeat after a hard fought and often bitter election campaign , often bitter election campaign, donald trump this morning declared himself america's 47th president. his win came when he surpassed 270 electoral college votes by securing the state of wisconsin, while his democratic rival, who's been silent all day , rival, who's been silent all day, will deliver a speech conceding defeat in front of her followers in two hours time. sir keir starmer and kemi badenoch have faced each other for the first time at prime minister's questions on the issue of farmers inheritance tax. sir keir said his government was listening to the concerns of those in the agricultural community. but the new tory leader accused the prime minister of giving the people nothing more than stock answers . nothing more than stock answers. >> scripted lines are showing that he has not even listened to
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the budget himself. but what does he say to farmers who are facing uncertainty about their futures as a result of the increased taxes announced by the chancellor? >> i'm glad she's raised farmers because the budget last week put £5 billion over the next two years into farming . that is the years into farming. that is the single biggest increase. unlike the £300 million which was underspend under the last government . government. >> the next election in ireland will be on november the 29th. the irish premier, simon harris, will meet the country's president on friday to seek the dissolution of ireland's parliament. the highly anticipated announcement will formally kick off a truncated campaign, which will last just a few weeks . the man, suspected of few weeks. the man, suspected of murdering estate agent suzy lamplugh almost four decades ago, has died in prison. the pfison ago, has died in prison. the prison service has confirmed that 70 year old john cannan stand shoulder to shoulder in defence of 0 old hared values stand shoulder to shoulder in died in full. sutton prison, defence of 0 old john values stand shoulder to shoulder in defence of 0 old john cannan that 70 year old john cannan died in full. sutton prison,
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where he was serving life for where he was serving life for the murder of newlywed shirley the murder of newlywed shirley banksin banksin the murder of newlywed shirley banks in the late 80s. he was the murder of newlywed shirley banks in the late 80s. he was named as a suspect in the named as a suspect in the abduction and murder of suzy abduction and murder of suzy lamplugh, who disappeared in lamplugh, who disappeared in london in 1986. her body has london in 1986. her body has never been found , and those are never been found , and those are never been found, and those are the latest gb news headlines. never been found, and those are the latest gb news headlines. we'll be back with more in an we'll be back with more in an hour for the very latest gb news hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , or go to gb news the qr code , or go to gb news .com. >> forward slash alerts . .com. >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> welcome back to farage with >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> welcome back to farage with me christopher hope. now, prime me christopher hope. now, prime minister sir keir starmer was minister sir keir starmer was quick to congratulate president quick to congratulate president elect donald trump on his elect donald trump on his victory this morning, saying as victory this morning, saying as the closest of allies, we should the closest of allies, we should stand shoulder to shoulder in stand shoulder to shoulder in
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defence of our shared values defence of our shared values of freedom, democracy and enterprise. the pm went on from growth and security to innovation and tech. i know that the uk us special relationship will continue to prosper on both sides of the atlantic for years to come. but there's no denying this is not the outcome labour had hoped for. after all, the party had helped arrange for 100 volunteers to campaign for kamala harris's campaign, prompting a legal complaint from trump's team. on top of that , trump's team. on top of that, several labour cabinet ministers have in the past, before they entered government, publicly criticised the new president elect as a backbench mp. david lammy, now the foreign secretary, called trump a neo nazi sympathising sociopath, a dangerous do you think for
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this mean, do you think for a labour government of the victory here by republican candidate in this election? >> well, of course , last night's >> well, of course, last night's election victory, a real political earthquake, no doubt. it's a huge shock to the sensitive souls of the labour party. and i think many in laboun party. and i think many in labour, including the top leadership, thought that kamala harris was going to win this election. they were obviously not following the polling very closely, and donald trump is once again going to be the president of the united states. and that's bad news for the far left socialist labour party who whose own leadership have relentlessly attacked donald trump in the past, including david lammy, the foreign secretary, who you have pointed out made some absolutely appalling, horrific comments about about donald trump previously . so i about about donald trump previously. so i think about about donald trump previously . so i think there's previously. so i think there's big trouble ahead, actually, for keir starmer and for the labour, the labour government actually. >> well, ngannou that expression of far left labour party raised
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a chuckle in the studio , not a chuckle in the studio, not least because that's the language used by by trump. but just explain that to us, because in this country, labour is sort of centre left. but i guess the politics they pursue, the labour party, the social, the social, the welfare state, the nhs in america, those are far left ideas. is that right? >> yeah. that's correct. i think that undoubtedly donald trump would view keir starmer as a as an ultra woke leftie, really . an ultra woke leftie, really. and i think that, you know , the, and i think that, you know, the, the impression that us conservatives have of the labour party is of a far left socialist political party that is in many respects turning towards woke totalitarianism, locking people up for their tweets and so on. they have a very bad image here in in the united states , and i'm in in the united states, and i'm in in the united states, and i'm in no doubt. i think that, you christopher, there have been a lot of developments that, you know, donald trump is going to in no doubt. i think that, you know, donald trump is going to give keir starmer a very hard give keir starmer a very hard time over his policies, his time over his policies, his
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agenda, and everything, of agenda, and everything, of course, that starmer and his and course, that starmer and his and his mates in the labour cabinet his mates in the labour cabinet have actually said about trump have actually said about trump in the past, trump has a very in the past, trump has a very long memory. he's not going to, long memory. he's not going to, i think, forgive and forget what i think, forgive and forget what what starmer's own cabinet have what starmer's own cabinet have said, although previously about said, although previously about him actually all of this, him actually all of nana although now although nana gardner when i questioned donald although now although nana gardner when i questioned donald trump in trump tower in trump in trump tower in september, said, what do you september, said, what do you think about keir starmer? think about keir starmer? >> he said he's a very nice man. >> he said he's a very nice man. so i think he may be he's he's a so i think he may be he's he's a pragmatic former businessman who pragmatic former businessman who knows he's got to get on with knows he's got to get on with with labour and the uk prime with labour and the uk prime minister, whatever. i mean, if minister, whatever. i mean, if you look back to the late 90s, you look back to the late 90s, early 2000, tony blair and early 2000, tony blair and george w bush formed an alliance george w bush formed an alliance over the iraq war, which caused over the iraq war, which caused them both problems. but even so, them both problems. but even so, they did become quite close they did become quite close mates, didn't they ? mates, didn't they ? mates, didn't they? >> yeah, those those are mates, didn't they? >> yeah, those those are important points. and certainly important points. and certainly i think donald trump is being i think donald trump is being very diplomatic in his remarks very diplomatic in his remarks about keir starmer. but, you about keir starmer. but, you know, since you you spoke to, know, since you you spoke to, to, to president trump, to, to president trump, christopher, there have been a christopher, there have been a lot of developments, lot of developments, including
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the fact that 100 labour current and former staffers went over to campaign for kamala harris in a seemingly organised effort, actually at the behest of the head of operations for the labour party and so that's a very serious matter. and i expect you'll probably see a congressional hearings in the united states looking into what what appears to have been a sort of foreign influence campaign. and keir starmer has not not apologised for it. >> no. do you think that there might be labour officials called to give evidence to congress over that? when trump gets into post? >> yes, actually i'm sure they will call on labour officials to testify about exactly what the labour party was doing, interfering in the us presidential election. there's been a lot of condemnation here in the united states of, of what the labour party has done. and keir starmer has not apologised in any way. this is a disastrous move, of course, by by labour.
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and they'll be facing the consequences, certainly. and you can be sure that donald trump is going to hold them to account. >> so some think that the trump win is quite good news for the uk. he's uk focused. his mum was from the isle of harris in scotland, but he wants to slap tariffs doesn't he. to protect us jobs. and that could impact couldn't it. on the on the uk and even a trade deal. i mean do you think is he is he is he kind of a thatcherite figure. you're from the thatcher institute or is he a bit more protective than that. >> yeah. so those are good questions. i've met the president several times
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questions. i've met the preside prime eral times questions. i've met the presideprime minister.; questions. i've met the presideprime minister. and you british prime minister. and you can be sure, i think that trump is going to advance a very pro—brexit us agenda on the on the international stage because he thinks brexit is good not only for the british people but for the american people. as well. >> well, brexit is back. listen, nigel gardner, great to see you again and take care in washington. and thanks for coming on. it's super waleses you are here. i'm joined by lord glassman. you of course, founded a blue labour. how does labour get close to trump? and are those historic tweets a problem? >> i don't i don't think they're they're a problem. i was also, as you know, a very strong supporter of brexit. and i had to take all this, what i call progressive abuse. you know , but progressive abuse. you know, but you know, we won and it calms down. and labour is committed to brexit and obviously for, for me and the part of the party that i represent, this is great news because what trump represents is a reassertion of sovereignty, and particularly in industrial
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strategy. you know, he reindustrialise if he followed his speeches in pennsylvania, in wisconsin, in ohio, blue collar jobs or. yeah. and we have to reindustrialise is very strong for us pulling our weight militarily. and i think that this opens the path for us to rebuild the army, rebuild weapons production, which is absolutely essential, drive the 2.5% target of gdp on defence, which today keir starmer wouldn't give a date on. yeah, for sure that's going to happen. and i think and i think just it's going to go further because >> we put our industrial production into further'his is >> we put our industrial production into further because it's going to go further because it's going to go further because it has to go further because the it's going to go further because it has to go further because the big difference between us and big difference between us and trump is that we really support trump is that we really support ukraine. we really, really ukraine. we really, really support trump does too. support trump does too. >> or trump wants a deal. >> or trump wants a deal. >> or trump wants a deal. >> no, he's going to do a deal. >> or trump wants a deal. >> no, he's going to do a deal. we have to move into a position we have to move into a position where our armed forces are where our armed forces are capable of stepping up and go it capable of stepping up and go it alone, without your support? alone, without your support? well, no, with us support, but well, no, with us support, but with our army, you know, in a in with our army, you know, in a in a bilateral and also what a bilateral and also what trump's done, we have to learn trump's done, we have to learn
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from he's built a really big from he's built a really big working class coalition against working class coalition against globalisation, against this globalisation, against this domination by a liberal elite. domination by a liberal elite. and so i think i, you know, i and so i think i, you know, i take this as opening up the take this as opening up the space for to labour really find space for to labour really find its way. the us—uk relationship its way. the us—uk relationship is absolutely vital to our is absolutely vital to our national interest. national interest. >> could we energise that >> could we energise that special relationship? >> oh, i think it's going to special relationship? >> oh, i think it's going to pushitin pushitin >> oh, i think it's going to push it in that way. yeah, >> oh, i think it's going to push it in that way. yeah, because there is some i mean by because there is some i mean the way, this really got on my nerves. this thatcher guy, i mean, what the meaning of thatcherism is, is that she basically empowered the chinese communist party. she put all the capital that we'd inherited over 150 years into china, because they didn't have any free and democratic trade unions. they had 24 hour a day production. now, china is a massive industrial power, so i take no lessons in dogmatism. >> you mean the uk invested money with china, with the city of outsourcing, outsourcing, manufacturing . manufacturing. >> we put our industrial
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push it in that way. yeah, because there is sorthinkrean push it in that way. yeah, because there is sorthink would >> yes. and do you think would he mind about those remarks we published earlier from david lammy and the like? there's some nazi remarks and this kind of thing. you know, it's a bit it seems a bit student politics to me. >> i was accused serious, you know , i supported brexit very know, i supported brexit very strongly. i was accused by all manner of people of being a fascist or this is what they do. they can't cope with. they lost, they can't cope with the change in reality. so we're going to have a lot of archaeological relics of the previous era, not least tony blair as well. it's not just it's not just the left who are committed to this idea of no borders. you know, the movement of people through space. no, the this is now an epochal change. and we have to the opportunity for labour because labour could be in charge of it. >> it could be a ten year labour government quite easily, and it should be . should be. >> yeah. and it could be a 12 year republican ascendancy because j.d. vance is not a trivial figure, and he's very interested in all these ideas. >> and just just very quickly on
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the fact that he's probably got control of the senate and the house and the white house. >> he's got it all. so he's got a free hand, i was oh told,, no, kamala will win. and he's very, very close. no, he's won the popular vote. the electoral college, the senate, the congress, and just all of it. >> i saw you last night in the house of commons. we arranged to meet tonight for the show. and you were you called it for trump last night. why were you so certain? >> because he's with the trend of history. see, this is the thing that the tweeters can't understand. they think they're on the right side of history, and they're always losing the right side of history is working class solidarity, rebuilding our industrial base and having a very strong national economy. that's the way ahead. >> and that's how you can get that from this, this deal, this almost like backing uk industry in a kind of trumpian way. almost like backing uk industry in a kind of trumpian way . yeah. in a kind of trumpian way. yeah. >> and also it has to be said we can move into that space in relation to ukraine. >> well listen, lord goldsmith, thank you very much for joining us today. >> it's a pleasure to see you soon. 500“. >> soon. >> see you soon. coming up next. kemi badenoch addressed the house of commons for a first
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welcome back to farage on gb welcome back to farage on gb news with me christopher hope. news with me christopher hope. now the new leader of the now the new leader of the opposition, kemi badenoch, used opposition, kemi badenoch, used her first appearance at the her first appearance at the despatch box at prime minister's despatch box at prime minister's questions to congratulate the questions to congratulate the president elect, donald trump. president elect, donald trump. she then took aim at keir she then took aim at keir starmer and david lammy over starmer and david lammy over their previous remarks about their previous remarks about trump when they were mps. let's trump when they were mps. let's take a listen. >> and so i would like to start take a listen. >> and so i would like to start by congratulating president by congratulating president elect trump on his impressive elect trump on his impressive victory this morning . the prime victory this morning . the prime victory this morning. the prime minister and the foreign victory this morning. the prime minister and the foreign secretary met him in september. secretary met him in september. did the foreign secretary take did the foreign secretary take that opportunity to apologise that opportunity to apologise for making derogatory and for making derogatory and scatological references, scatological references,
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including, and i quote, including, and i quote, trump is not only a woman hating, neo nazi sympathising sociopath, he is also a profound threat to the international order. and if he did not apologise, will the prime minister do so now on his behalf? >> the foreign secretary and i did meet president elect trump just a few weeks ago for dinner for about a couple of hours, and we discussed a number of issues of global significance. it was a very constructive exercise . very constructive exercise. >> okay. that's pmqs earlier today. now joining me to unpack this is my panel associate edhon this is my panel associate editor, the telegraph, moutaz ahmed, and the former labour mp lloyd russell—moyle . moutaz lloyd russell—moyle. moutaz ahmed, to you first. how do you rate kemi badenoch appearance in the despatch box today? >> i think she was good. she was a bit slow, but new leaders at pmqs tend to start off slow and they get used to it. you know, even mr sunak had a had a slow start. borisjohnson even mr sunak had a had a slow start. boris johnson was was a bit wobbly but she was good. she was confident. she was assertive. and it was the obvious set of questions. right. yeah.
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>> in fact we forecast them on air i think before she said them. >> exactly. so she was helped in that sense. but in future she'll be judged on the questions you ask. she'll have she'll have options. and i think she'll probably have to be a bit quicker with her wit and her answers. >> you do learn that, don't you, lloyd? russell—moyle? i mean, you the heat of
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knows as well in the heat of election campaigns and electioneering , people say electioneering, people say slightly nasty things about each other . trump does it to slightly nasty things about each other. trump does it to his opponents as well, and if keir and lammy are willing to do the deal with trump, he loves a deal for britain. and that's that's the key thing. now, even if we distaste the politics, you've got to do what's for best britain. if they're willing to do that, i think trump will probably play along. and that's that's what we have to do now, unfortunately, because that's yes, that's that's the way the world was made in 2017, 2019, both election years. >> that could be the case. but moutaz ahmed, things have been said today. i mean , look at this said today. i mean, look at this here. this is sadiq khan. he's the mayor of london. he's written on social media an important reminder today for londoners. our city is always and will always be for everyone that's on screen now. we'll always be pro—women, pro—diversity, pro—climate and pro—human rights. these are some of the values that will continue to bind us together as
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londoners. and then dawn butler, a former colleague in the house of commons of you, lloyd, she wrote on twitter the following i agree with our mayor of london, and the uk is a special place where we all agree with that. we have to be vigilant and to ensure that hard won rights are not eroded. take care everyone look after your neighbours. i mean, blimey, we're not under attack here. how do you explain? you know, grown up politicians making these remarks here? is there a risk to safety because of donald trump becoming the next president of the united states? >> there isn't. i think sometimes people forget he was president for four years and the world didn't blow up. so , you world didn't blow up. so, you know, but it doesn't help to have a foreign secretary who's made, you know, such childish remarks in the past. yeah . remarks in the past. yeah. donald trump has a long memory. we know he cares about loyalty. we know he cares about loyalty. we know he cares about sort of interpersonal relationships when it comes to diplomacy and foreign policy. we know that makes a difference with him. if we want him to prioritise the uk, it doesn't help to have a party in government with figures. oh, come , come who
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figures. oh, come, come who essentially he's already met and had dinner with lammy. >> and so, so the idea that he's taken these comments from a long time ago so personally know what trump would have done if he'd taken them personally, is he would have refused the dinner. there is already a few months i was there. >> i was there before the dinner happenedin >> i was there before the dinner happened in in trump tower and he said, he's a very nice guy. and then he said, but i've got to say that i would see him shortly. so it's quite jokey, as did trump about i saw that that was an interesting comment. >> you know, i think he did. there's one thing he certainly did take personally, which was the activist row, which they complained about. and i don't think he'll forget about that. >> i mean, i think that is a bizarre thing to take personally because labour and the conservative parties have sent people to the us to campaign for years, and conservatives have come here to campaign in all of the campaigns i've ever run on. we've had europeans and americans coming here and helping us. >> you say he he took issue with it. whatever you say. it's bizarre. he took issue with it.
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>> he did take well, i think the people around him took a lot of issue with it. he actually didn't personally talk about it much at all. but the people around him took issue with it. and again, i wonder sometimes with donald trump, it's often about how a lot of loud noises at the election campaign, that's that's what people like about him. and then in the end he say, okay, you've done that. now what deal can i cut with you? we'll find out. >> well, did you worry about about trump's policies? i mean, this is a moutaz ahmed. i mean, he he wants to do the largest deportation operation in american history. you know, he's also you end the war in ukraine within 24 hours, not mentioning ukraine or zelenskyy in his speech offering no further details about this. lots of worries here about what it means. you heard maurice glasman saying he thinks uk troops must step up if the us moves away from this conflict. >> i think we're going to have a very interesting trump term . he very interesting trump term. he obviously exaggerates during the campaign, but i think he's less likely to be extreme now because the key thing this time is he has nothing to run for. again .
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has nothing to run for. again. and what he'll care about is he wasn't so extreme in the first time. >> so if you're saying he's not going to be as extreme as he was the first time, then you're saying he's going to be a democrat. i mean , that would be democrat. i mean, that would be that would be an amazing turnaround. i don't think i think the only way he can be is more extreme than he was in the first. >> i think he'll be more likely to bring people together this time. yes . in to bring people together this time. yes. in washington, because he has nothing to run. >> he may start flexing with the uk again, flexing his muscles. i mean, the chagos islands deal that could unravel. there's suggestions that one can only hope that he kind of. >> i'm not that keen on it. i'm not that keen on it either. i think that the chagossians should decide what happens to their islands, whether they want to go to mauritius or stay british or be independent. and i think it's wrong for imperial powers, mauritius or britain to decide for other people. >> whatever's happened is we have now got in the past week a lot of changes in politics, a budget, a new tory leader and now a new us. how a new us. >> now a new us. >> and we'll find out pretty soon. by the way, how much donald trump rates keir starmer. we'll see who he makes his first
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phone call to and whether that's the uk parliament. >> he's already made a first phone call already, and i think kamala harris has spoken to that. >> they've spoken together, that no other world leaders, as far as we know . listen, thanks to my as we know. listen, thanks to my panel as we know. listen, thanks to my panel, lloyd russell—moyle and moutaz ahmed. coming up next, could sir keir starmer reach out to reform uk leader nigel farage to reform uk leader nigel farage to build bridges between
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welcome back to farage with me christopher hope. now the presenter of this show. nigel farage was the only british mp at donald trump's election night party in florida. joining me now is the man himself, nigel farage. welcome to your show , nigel. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> i've got to ask you a year ago, you're on the way into the jungle. are you back in the jungle? are you a celebrity? get you out of there . you out of there. >> i know the background does look rather like it. and i've had sort of, you know,
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shuddering memories of being in the australian jungle and cockroaches and snakes. but no, i'm here in the very properly named palm beach. and got to tell you, you know, when i was on this show yesterday, i said that i was very bullish about what i thought trump's prospects were for the day. and boy, was i right. it was it was it was extraordinary being in that ballroom last night, you know, trump was sitting in the middle family and very close friends around him. elon musk, very , around him. elon musk, very, very prominent indeed. and it kind of started off cautiously optimistic. i was the bull, but it was cautiously optimistic. and then it became just uproarious, you know, i mean, it was a really it was a proper party. and trump, trump just i mean, he was so laid back sort of almost sort of dispassionately looking at the screens. i mean, you know, whether you whether you like him or not, he is just the most resilient, most extraordinary bloke. he really is. >> have you spoken to him since he won? as he said to you what his plans are for the uk, us?
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he's clearly nowhere near his priority right now. but have you spoken to him? >> no no no no no, i spoke to him very briefly last night. send him a message today. no, no, no, listen, he will be recovering today. i mean, don't forget, on monday he did six rallies. he spoke for six hours on a platform on monday. he's been travelling the length and breadth of the country, living on hardly any sleep. i mean , on hardly any sleep. i mean, physically, physically. what he's put himself through over the course of the last few weeks is pretty much superhuman , and is pretty much superhuman, and his much younger aides can barely keep up with him. so he'll be resting today. but look, you know , in terms of the look, you know, in terms of the relationship between us and america, i mean, obviously we've got senior government figures that have said immensely disobliging things about him. we have the prospect of a trump government bringing in quite big tariffs for all foreign imports, something that we need to deal with by getting involved in negotiations as quickly as we reasonably can. and that means
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rolling out the red carpet. i'm pleased to see that speaker sir lindsay hoyle has said he looks forward to the american president addressing both houses of parliament next year when he comes on a visit. so that's at least a start. but we do need we do need to get talking to the trump transition team as soon as those big positions, such as trade are appointed . trade are appointed. >> and what's your role in that? nigel farage you're seen from this, this country anyway, as as the chief trump whisperer, will you have a key role in introducing people from the uk government to members of the trump transition team? >> well, what is likely, chris, is that when he appoints his cabinet, you know, i'm probably going to know quite a few of them personally quite well also. so i do think i do think that i might have a role to play in helping in helping to break down those barriers. i mean, don't forget, there are such
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fundamental disagreements politically. i mean, ed miliband wants us to go completely green. lucky we're all rich, isn't it? and can pay the electricity bills, whereas, you know, the trump administration is the trump administration is the trump administration is drill, baby, drill . and we can go right baby, drill. and we can go right through all of these different issues. there are huge differences between a very conservative trump government. you know , and a pretty left wing you know, and a pretty left wing british one. but on areas like intelligence sharing, on areas like defence, on areas like trade, and indeed investment. and it's worth remembering that america is the biggest foreign investor in the uk and vice versa. we in america, on all of these things, there is an essential national interest that we resolve these things to the satisfaction of both sides. and if i can help in any way at to all break down some of those barriers, i'll do so. and not because i support anything that keir starmer's government stands for. i don't, but it's in the national interest. and that's really the point. >> we've been here before, nigel farage i remember writing a story about you eight years ago, november 2016, when you were
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being mooted as a similar bridge between the unknown trump campaign, because back then no one knew him. he won the election. you had it into him because you helped him campaign. but no one knew who he was. i mean, and the establishment that back then turned their backs on you, i think slightly. that could happen again, couldn't it? >> yeah. i mean, the conservative government at the time were more interested in not being involved with me than serving the national interest. and we had an ambassador in washington who , frankly, had no washington who, frankly, had no access to donald trump and the white house what so ever. it was a self—inflicted goal . look, white house what so ever. it was a self—inflicted goal. look, i'm not going to be the ambassador for a labour government that's never going to happen. and anyway, i've been elected as a member of parliament for clacton, and that is my priority . clacton, and that is my priority. but look, you know, i say it again, if i can play a useful role, i'm very, very happy to do so. 50. >> so. >> there's talk here of peter mandelson, lord mandelson could take the role of ambassador. is he someone that you think donald trump would welcome ?
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trump would welcome? >> well, peter mandelson is a very clever man. you know, whether you agree with him or not. he's a very clever man who i watched him in the european commission, master his brief and whether he's quite the kind of guy that can bowl into the oval office and speak to donald trump, i'm not 100% sure he's the right guy, but but at least he would be respected because he's got a good brain. >> and just finally, there's chatter here about this chagos deal chatter here about this chagos deal. i know you've been very critical of it. do you think trump could veto that altogether? the idea of handing over some sovereignty to mauritius and then it transferring after 100 years away from maybe us influence ? away from maybe us influence? >> well, look , let's see who >> well, look, let's see who trump appoints to run defence andindeed trump appoints to run defence and indeed also to be secretary of state . they are very key of state. they are very key appointments. all i can tell you is that i've spoken to people in the military here. i've spoken to people close to the, the, the
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incoming trump administration. and there are deep, deep concerns about a mauritian government that is moving a long way to the left. that doesn't appear to like america very much. that is getting closer to china, even though it's not part officially of the belt and road initiative. and it's all well and good saying there's a lease deal and good saying there's a lease deal. but hey, we heard there was a lease deal on democracy in hong kong and look what's happened to that. and i, i think this will be a source of great concern for the americans would have been very difficult to do the gulf war. very difficult to do the iraq war without diego garcia. it is that and guam are the only real assets america's got in that whole part of the world. it is something that is very important. it is something that and it is something that will be discussed, obviously. and of course, i have my own view on that clearly. >> well, this nigel farage, thank you for joining >> well, this nigel farage, thank you forjoining us. it's thank you for joining us. it's been a long few days for you too. in fact, we appreciate you coming on the channel onto onto your show. of course. now to be
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a bit more about what a trump presidency might mean for america and the rest of the world, i'm delighted to be joined by hilton beckham, the director of communication for the american first policy institute and a former media adviser to the trump white house. hilton beckham, welcome to farage and gb news. to great see you there. thank you. >> hey, thanks for having me on. >> hey, thanks for having me on. >> now listen, we're looking at the your your politics in the uk, but it looks like we'll have a trifecta, doesn't it? with the republicans controlling the senate, the house and of course the white house. what would that mean, do you think, regarding, say, a uk, us trade deal, would it be sped through very quickly, suddenly ? suddenly? >> you know, i don't want to get ahead of trump, but it does sound like if we do have all three and knock on wood, we're still waiting for the house results. but with all three they are going to push forward a america first policy that puts american workers first. and so if that is dealing with a deal that with the uk, where we can
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have a fair trade deal, i'm sure that donald trump will want to put that forward. but again, i don't want to get ahead in front of the trump team because i'm sure they're working all of those negotiations out right now . those negotiations out right now. >> yeah, of course we don't get ahead of ourselves. but i mean, everyone talks and thinks here in terms of the uk, us relationship, how big is the idea? we describe it as a special relationship. i'm not sure it's viewed that way in washington all the time. >> you know what, donald trump, we all know he wants to be friends with everyone. he wants to negotiate with everyone. we saw that during his presidency in 2016 through 2020. okay, it doesn't matter if he gets along with you or not. he always wants to come to the negotiation table. and so we've seen that when he talked to kim jong un and when he talked to putin and to friendlier foreign people as well. so i think that uk and the united states will have a good relationship, but also too, we can't forget donald trump's main
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priority, and it's why he's going to be the 47th president of the united states, is to put americans first. and so any friendships, any policies that he puts forward, that is going to be his main priority. >> okay. just very quickly , >> okay. just very quickly, hilton beckham, why do you think the pollsters appear to get it wrong? and in fact, some of some of the media also call this wrong. they thought it would be much closer, and even kamala harris might have won. >> okay, this will i think this will go down in history for how wrong they were. first of all, we all know that donald trump underperforms polls, but the fact that kamala harris was underperforming biden and hillary clinton at such low levels. and yet the media was trying to drag her across the finishing line , telling the finishing line, telling the american people that she was the next president of the united states baffles my mind. but the main issue here is, is that the american people were very clear about what they wanted. all the polling showed, they wanted a secure border, a border that enforced the law. and they
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wanted a thriving economy. instead, the democrats kept telling us that our economy was fine or that will fix the economy. it was always flip flopping on what it was. they told us the border was secure and then they kept legislating trillions of dollars worth of legislation that kept ruining our economy and regulating our businesses. so the message was clear from american people. all they had to do was jump on it. but they didn't. and that's why donald trump is going to be president and his policies worked. >> yeah, those history books will be quite an interesting read. i think hilton beckham, thank you for joining read. i think hilton beckham, thank you forjoining us read. i think hilton beckham, thank you for joining us tonight from the states. thank you for joining us. now after the break. thank you. after the break, we'll be talking to the son of a farmer who took his own life due what could be changes or the plan changes to
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news with me christopher hope. now today we've had a very sad reminder of the very real pressures that farmers find themselves under john charlesworth was found dead on his farm near barnsley last tuesday, the day before the budget, which imposed inheritance tax liabilities on farms, family members have said since then that john was distressed at the prospect of losing his family farm to inheritance tax increases. his son jonathan wrote a social media post which was widely shared online, describing his father's death as the human cost of government policy or potential government policy. we're joined now by jonathan charlesworth jr to discuss his father's life and dreadfully untimely death. jonathan, thank you for joining untimely death. jonathan, thank you forjoining us untimely death. jonathan, thank you for joining us tonight on untimely death. jonathan, thank you forjoining us tonight on gb news. >> yeah, good evening . >> yeah, good evening. >> yeah, good evening. >> it's such a difficult conversation , jonathan, but conversation, jonathan, but please tell us about your father . please tell us about your father. >> well, my father was a
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wonderful man. he was a farmer through and through. you know, he was born into farming, spent all his life either working on the farm or in the farming industry. one way or another, he took on the farm pretty much full time in the 80s from my grandfather , built up, built it grandfather, built up, built it up from what it was. you know, i think every, every generation tries to build the farm a little for the next. you know, put a pig for the next. you know, put a pig unit on the farm, you know, it was just a worked hard every day of his life, very few days off, very few holidays. but, you know, we don't need holidays really , on a farm, when you really, on a farm, when you enjoy what you do, you know . enjoy what you do, you know. >> and you found he found him dead last tuesday. and the following day we heard the we heard these plans from the government on iht imposing, of course, an effective tax rate of 20% on agricultural assets were valued over a million pounds. you've said on on social media you've linked your father's
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death to worries about inheritance tax. but of course, he died before the budget happened. >> it did. it had been suffering for, well , that's just suffering for, well, that's just suffering might be the wrong word, but we've been caring for my mother for a number of years, probably the last five years. who has severe dementia that had brought him down a lot because obviously a lot of stress involved in caring for anybody that's got dementia . it put a lot of effort dementia. it put a lot of effort into that for another reason. really, to protect the farm, because if she got into home dementia care is very expensive, 50 plus thousand a year, possibly . and the longer we possibly. and the longer we could keep her out, you know, the safer things were going to be. but the last few weeks, the only topic of conversation has been inheritance tax. we've been looking at ways of passing the farm over, you know, handing the land over before it , before land over before it, before death and the seven year rule and various other things. we were talking about it the night before, had no idea it was going to do this, but i think he
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basically woke up on the morning and realised my mum's not got very long left and thought, you know, i've worked all my life, i'm just not going to risk it. you know, i'm not going to risk the tax man basically ruining the tax man basically ruining the ruining the farm that both my grandfather and my father have built up. you know, he was a typical yorkshireman. my dad, you know, it was tight with money. he spent it where he needed to, you know, and it was a help anybody. but it was, you know, it saved all his life. it saved all his life to build the farm up and pass it on to the next generation and hopefully the generation after that. and, you know, to see that potentially going, going down the path . the path. >> so, so, so before the budget he had he thought there may be some changes to the way farmers were treated in what was coming up from labour. is that right. >> well i mean it was, it was, it wasn't a secret that inheritance tax was pretty likely to come onto farms. >> we didn't have any details. there were no figures. i think that was probably a large cause. nobody knew. you know , i think
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nobody knew. you know, i think there was talk at one point about it being a half a million possible threshold, and then we didn't know whether it'd be 20%, 40%, whatever tax on top of that. but i mean, we made 15,000 last year. so if you if you're looking at a potential inheritance tax in the hundreds of thousands who are now going to lend you that sort of money , to lend you that sort of money, it's such a worry for so many people. >> look, jonathan charlesworth, thank you for joining >> look, jonathan charlesworth, thank you forjoining us >> look, jonathan charlesworth, thank you for joining us tonight on gb news. and we're sending you our condolences from the whole team @gbnews. thank you sir. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> joining me now in the studio is my panel of the associate editor at the telegraph, moutaz ahmed, and the former labour mp lloyd russell—moyle. lloyd russell—moyle to you first, you've heard that testimony there from jonathan charlesworth, junior. there is pressure all the time on farmers, isn't isn't there? and of course , he says the of course, he says the speculation about the inheritance tax may have had a factor in his father, his father's death .
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father's death. >> absolutely tragic. when anyone takes their life, tragic when anyone passes away. and of course, what we heard there is that this was a man who was struggling on many different fronts , including looking after fronts, including looking after his very sick wife. and we know that social care in this country is a complete disaster and puts lots of strain on people. and we know people in rural areas, particularly farmers, have even more strain because services are poor there. we've had 14 years of cutbacks of services and that support network. >> let's take it at face value. what he says is the case. his this concern about it had a beanng this concern about it had a bearing on him. do you think the government needs to listen more? >> well this farm probably wouldn't be taxed at all if my understanding of the reading is correct. yeah, it's a £2 million farm, and at the moment there's a £1 million allowance plus a £500,000 allowance for the house. that's on the farm. and if you're in a couple and his wife is still alive, as we heard
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you double that. so it's £3 million before you pay any tax. so in fact, that's the even sadder thing here. the actual details of the policy would have made it perfectly fine for him. what is problematic, i think, which is a wider issue, not about inheritance , is what we about inheritance, is what we can't do is leak bits of the budget out because then you don't see the full picture. >> it'sjust don't see the full picture. >> it's just very, very quickly to moutaz ahmed. i mean, a tragedy in jonathan's testimony was was so sad and so many people were affected by this. >> it's a tricky case. it's a very tricky case. and i'm not sure we can talk about details because, you know, if it was before the budget, he wouldn't have been aware. but one thing we do need to talk more about is farmers. and mental health. okay. >> which as i'm out of time. but thank you for your time tonight. and lloyd russell—moyle to you too. if any of you is affected by that story, please go to katherine forster. martin's helpline is available 24 over seven for free on 116123 or emailing jo at samaritans.org. coming up next though, state of the nation. first though, the
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weather with alex burkill . weather with alex burkill. >> even though we'll see a cloudy start, it'll be a bright outlook for the rest of the day. boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news. >> good evening. i'm here with your latest gb news. weather forecast coming to you from the met office. it's going to stay pretty cloudy, but generally dry as we go through tonight and into tomorrow. we still have high pressure dominating our weather. it is to the east of us, but nonetheless keeping things pretty settled and any weather systems to the west of us are staying at bay. but with that high pressure, we have a lot of cloud. that cloud is going to be quite thick. could be quite low in some places. some hill fog through tonight in a few places and also some outbreaks of drizzly rain. the greatest chance of any clear skies will be across northern parts of scotland and the far north of england. the cloud will keep things pretty mild, temperatures for many staying in double figures, so a mild grey
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and for some damp start to the day for many tomorrow. some places will have some sunshine through the morning, particularly northern scotland. some breaks in the cloud quite likely here across more central western parts , thicker cloud and western parts, thicker cloud and a bit of drizzly rain. quite likely, especially over any higher ground. further south across northern ireland and the bulk of england and wales. it is looking like it will be another grey, gloomy start to the day. there could be some hill fog around, perhaps not as much as we saw through today. nonetheless, there will also be a few outbreaks of drizzly rain. nothing heavy, and any drizzly rain shouldn't last particularly long. most of us will actually avoid it, but yes, there could be some damp weather around. staying cloudy still , just the staying cloudy still, just the best chance of any sunshine will best chance of any sunshine will be across the far north of scotland , perhaps north wales scotland, perhaps north wales and eastern england in the sunshine. not feeling too bad and generally temperatures on the mild side. highs and generally temperatures on the mild side . highs in and generally temperatures on the mild side. highs in the and generally temperatures on the mild side . highs in the mid the mild side. highs in the mid teens for many of us spot the difference when it comes to looking at friday again. lots of grey cloudy skies across the uk. still some sunshine breaking
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through again towards the north of scotland, northern england, nonh of scotland, northern england, north wales the best chance of catching any sunshine. staying pretty similar as we go into the weekend. another grey, mostly dry day on saturday and staying that way on sunday in the south but further north we may see some wet and windy weather for it. >> we'll see a cold snap which will quickly develop into a warm front. boiler repairs sponsors of weather on
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us election is a crushing defeat for the global elite, and a triumph for democracy. now it's time to reassert western values and power that have been undermined for too long. >> but the re—election of trump is good news for the uk, too. the question is, how will the labour government handle a trump presidency? united kingdom could be facing a risk to food security, as fury on british farms could lead to a strike, with farming influences planning to withhold produce to cause shortages. plus, i'll be speaking to the british businessman, founder of carphone warehouse and philanthropist david ross as the labour party's budget is set to devastate the nation's business landscape. state of the nation starts now . state of the nation starts now. joined by my most formidable panel joined by my most formidable panel, the former conservative cabinet minister sir john redwood , and the historian and redwood, and the historian and broadcaster tessa dunlop. as
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