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you very date it is to me. thank you very much. yes. it's. yes, 15th. and this is the weekend on gb news now opposition leader kemi badenoch is calling for a review to hate crime laws to protect free speech after police launched an investigation into a journalist, allison pearson, over a tweet . and unhealthy over a tweet. and unhealthy eating habits are costing the country £268 billion a year, more than the entire budget for the nhs. so is it time we started taking more responsibility for our own health? and i love this story . health? and i love this story. the clifton suspension bridge yes, a bridge has become the latest entity celebrity to announce it's leaving the social media site x. but why are a growing number leaving that platform and why do they feel the need to announce it? it's not an airport. you don't have to. an actual departure. and 50 million people watched jake paul take on mike tyson overnight. but the boxing match has been
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branded a bit of a farce and a freak show. we'll find out why and which supermarket makes the best mince pies or the breaking news here that will be revealed later on. i'm dawn neesom and this is the weekend and it starts right here and now . starts right here and now. yes, but it is the 16th of november. i have no idea. i've got no idea what happened to october, to be honest with you. how we got to the 16th of november? i've got no idea. so. and we're nearly in december, aren't we? and that is worrying. because you're not ready, are you? i'm not ready either , to be you? i'm not ready either, to be honest with you. but we are talking about things you only put in your mouth at christmas time later on, so you don't want to miss this. stop over there at the back. but this show is nothing without you and your views. so let me know your thoughts on all the stories we're discussing today by visiting gb news .com. forward
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slash your say and join the conversation now keeping me company. you've heard them already. two very frisky young men. if i may say so. political commentators jonathan lewis and duncan barkes. thank you very much for turning up jonathan. yes, but before we get stuck into today's stories, here's the news with the lovely will hollis. >> hello, your top stories at just gone 12:00 kemi badenoch has described a police investigation into a journalist's year old tweets as absolutely wrong. amidst a row over free speech, the conservative leader told the telegraph newspaper that people should stop wasting police time on trivial incidents, while urging the government to review laws around non—crime hate incidents. telegraph journalist allison pearson was visited by essex police on remembrance sunday over allegations that a
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deleted social media post inched deleted social media post incited racial hatred. essex police said they invited miss pearson for a voluntary interview over the tweets. meanwhile, former prime minister bofis meanwhile, former prime minister boris johnson compared police action to that of the soviet union in the last century to the current prime minister. now he's just finished addressing the welsh labour conference, his first since the election in july, sir keir told conference wales carried the torch for 14 years to show the change. labour can deliver, but has now hailed a new era of opportunity, with labour governments in both britain and wales. the prime minister promised a partnership with wales first minister eleanor morgan to tackle nhs waiting lists and reinvest in industry . welsh labour won 27 industry. welsh labour won 27 out of 32 seats in the last election, kicking the tories into absolute oblivion with no seats. here's the prime minister
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speaking a few moments ago . speaking a few moments ago. >> ten years this nation here has carried the torch for the entire labour party. the only great nation on our island where we could show as a movement the change that we can deliver for working people. but now a labour government in cardiff bay, joined by a labour government in westminster. a new era, a new opportunity, a responsibility that we must now take to return wales and britain decisively to the service of working people. >> meanwhile, farmers have descended on the conference in protest over changes to inheritance tax, with trailers and tractors leading the way. farmers were escorted by police en route to the conference in llandudno . in changes announced llandudno. in changes announced in the budget, farmers who pass on their land will have to pay a 20% tax on assets worth more
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than £1 million. the prime minister defended proposals earlier, saying the government needs to keep explaining how it will work. earlier , gb news will work. earlier, gb news spoke to egg farmer rebecca tonks. >> need to support our our farming, our food security is incredibly important and the sustainability of that is at risk right now. and i can't i can't labour them that enough to europe now, where germany's chancellor has challenged vladimir putin over what sources describe as a grave escalation in the war in ukraine, olaf scholz spoke to the russian president for more than an hour, ending the western isolation of the country. >> that's been in place since the year 2022. the chancellor condemned russia's invasion of its neighbour while criticising the deployment of north korean troops in the conflict. he also promises to continue supporting
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ukraine until it can achieve a just and lasting peace . just and lasting peace. meanwhile, volodymyr zelenskyy, the ukrainian president, has said ukraine must do everything to ensure the war ends next year through diplomacy, adding that the war will end sooner with donald trump as president across the atlantic, mike tyson says his return to the boxing ring won't be his last after losing to youtuber jake paul by unanimous decision . boxing for unanimous decision. boxing for the first time in 19 years before a texas crowd, the. the 58 year old struggled to match his younger opponent, a man half his younger opponent, a man half his age streamed on netflix to the platform's 280 million subscribers. jake paul's reportedly earned £30 million from the fight and tyson 15 million from those eight rounds. it may still be november, but
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bratislava has been ranked the best destination for uk travellers seeking a bargain christmas markets break. the slovakian capital was found to have the lowest prices for a two night package holiday for two people out of 14 european destinations . and finally, for destinations. and finally, for now, a pregnant cow who became stuck in a residential swimming poolin stuck in a residential swimming pool in rutland, the uk's smallest county, has been hoisted to safety by firefighters. the team from leicestershire fire and rescue service drained the pool and then lifted her to safety using a downer cow harness . farmers a downer cow harness. farmers know that that's a piece of equipment designed to protect her udders. in a post on social media, the fire service joked that she had checked herself in for a spa day . that's all for for a spa day. that's all for now. i'll have more headlines later , but now it's back to dawn.
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later, but now it's back to dawn. >> thank you very much. well, right. yous lot started already, haven't you? this is eamonn and sheila on about my fringe. get out of my eyes. but it's cheaper than botox . what can i say? and than botox. what can i say? and darren has also mentioned that jonathan is wearing last year's christmas jumper. it's not a christmas jumper. it's not a christmas jumper. it's high fashion. he looks cool. okay, well, that's what he told me to say in any case. okay, let's get straight into today's story, shall we? opposition leader kemi badenoch has urged the prime minister to review hate crime laws in order to protect free speech. her intervention follows controversy over a police investigation into the telegraph. journalist allison pearson over a tweet she posted a year ago. it's also been revealed children, as young as nine are being investigated by police for non—crime hate incidents , including insults in incidents, including insults in the playground. i kid you not, i'm not making this up. seriously. joining us now is gb news political correspondent, katherine forster. she will be
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joining katherine forster will be joining us shortly. so i've just been told. but joining me now, because he is here, i can see him is former scotland yard detective peter bleksley peter . detective peter bleksley peter. i'm reading this story out. sorry, fringe . sorry. and sorry, fringe. sorry. and i can't believe what i'm reading . can't believe what i'm reading. this is a tweet that was put out a year ago and is being investigated now for either a non—crime hate incident or a racist incident. now, what do you make of this story ? it's insane. >> british policing has got itself into a dreadful, appalling mess, not just over non—crime hate incidents, but so many other aspects of policing that have simply fallen away and not done properly, and what it consequently means is that free speech is being attacked in many ways , and victims of crime are ways, and victims of crime are being repeatedly and appallingly failed. this incident here with
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allison pearson, from what we know , is actually pretty much know, is actually pretty much not in dispute, is that when the police officers turn up on sunday morning, remembrance sunday morning, remembrance sunday , they told her that there sunday, they told her that there was an investigation, but she asked two kind of two very important questions. who is the complainant or the victim? call them what you will and what is them what you will and what is the allegation? and she was told neither of those things. >> do police have to tell you that. i mean, i thought if i if they are investigating you , they they are investigating you, they have to tell you why they're investigating you at the very least. >> and what for? when you arrest somebody, you don't just tell them you're being arrested. you have to tell them what they are being arrested for. have to tell them what they are being arrested for . therefore, being arrested for. therefore, when you turn up at somebody's front door and tell them they're being investigated , you should being investigated, you should tell them exactly what they are being arrested for. there are countless examples, sadly, out there in the world of social
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media, of police behaving unprofessionally , appallingly unprofessionally, appallingly and quite often pathetically. they are under—trained. they've scraped the bottom of the barrel in terms of recruiting, so often with a lack of vetting so that they don't get suitable people and consequently years almost a couple of decades of senior policing roles being full of the wokerati academic types that wanted to get away from the front line of policing as quickly as they could. this is what you get. you reap what you sow. >> sow. >> so the problem you've got here. essex police have set up a gold group, which is usually reserved for dealing with major crimes. to handle this investigation now. but the meantime, people who live in essex are saying you're not even looking drug dealers on the streets. >> don't worry about essex. this morning alone. i've spoken to two people who have been involved in crime one the victim of an attempted robbery , the of an attempted robbery, the other person, a well meaning member of the public who tried
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to report to police. a violent and threatening drunk. and on both those occasions they've had appalling service. in fact , no appalling service. in fact, no kind of service policing is in crisis until we get these clowns out of the senior rank , until out of the senior rank, until people in policing get promoted on merit, until they start promoting leaders and not managers, until somebody gets a grip that policing is a service that should serve the public and not itself. this nonsense, this appalling nonsense, is simply going to continue. >> very, very strong words. there , peter. thank you very there, peter. thank you very much. you're staying with us for this debate. let's bring my panel on this. jonathan, liz and duncan. brooke, what do you make of this story? i mean, initially alison was under the impression it was a non—crime hate incident. essex police. that's because she lives in essex. have now said no. we are investigating her under a criminal charge of racial
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hatred, which alison obviously clearly denies. and i've seen the tweet and i can't work it out either. but what do you make this? a year ago, jonathan? meanwhile, drug dealers are just walking out of friends and family, live in essex, walk in the streets, not you. dial 999. you're lucky if you get response. >> well, one thing i would agree with peter on off the bat is that it seems to be a lot easier for police to trawl through social media than actually go on the streets, and that's why you have these ridiculous prosecutions that are taking place of people who say things on twitter and that sort of, you know , in a previous generation, know, in a previous generation, people would have said in a crowded pub and they might not be very clever things or very nice things, but i don't think they meet the criminal bar necessarily. i do think that we need to have hate crimes in this country, hate crime legislation. i should say in this country. i think that people should have. right. and i think that people should be prosecuted, prosecuted if they if they breach those laws , quite agree. and that and laws, quite agree. and that and that twitter is for example, is a different style of platform
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and people haven't quite understood this about the internet, it does count as publishing something. it's not the same as saying something in a crowded pub, and that's something that that's a difficulty that we have, because i can just type something on my phone and press send, and it's like i wrote it in a book and with the equivalent kind of legal threshold that meets. but having said all that , i having said all that, i completely disagree with most of what comes out of alison pearson's mouth. i think that she has made deeply inflammatory comments. she has . she has. comments. she has. she has. i think that she has the right to say things that i would consider islamophobic, and provided that she's not there , that doesn't she's not there, that doesn't cross the kind of the hate crime threshold. now, the tweet that we seem to be talking about, according to the guardian, is where she talks, where she called. she looks at a photograph of three protesters with a flag, and that is actually the flag of the mainstream pakistani political party with opposing with police officers and called those people jew haters based on the fact that they're opposing this flag . that they're opposing this flag. now, in my book, that is a
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racist tweet. now, does it should it be permissible? i don't look, i think that people might have been if she had been targeting those people individually, i think they would have had a very good grounds to sue her in a, in a, in a court of law, because that is obviously would be defamation or libel potentially. now, should it be a criminal matter, that's a different issue. and the person who complained is not one of the people who were called jew haters in this particular tweet. so i think it is murky. i'm not sure that i, i certainly wouldn't agree with the police getting involved in the way they do. and if people are going, if police are going to come to your doon police are going to come to your door, they need to tell you immediately what you are. >> but there's another part of this story, isn't there? which is someone pointed out that her tweet was incorrect because of the flag. >> she deleted it, which is why she deleted it. >> she deleted it soon after, and then a year down the line, she gets a knock at the door from the from, you know, essex nick. so i mean, she deleted the tweet that caused offence in the first place. is that not relevant? >> i think it is relevant whether you delete something.
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yes. look, as i say, the laws we have on twitter and social media probably need to be revised because at the moment they fall under broad publication laws, as they've written in in a magazine . they've written in in a magazine. and sometimes i think that if you publish something very stupid, you delete it after ten minutes. i don't think you should go to jail for it, let's put it that way. >> there's also an issue with how do you define hate ? i mean, how do you define hate? i mean, i for me that is the biggest question. what is hate and you brilliantly. a few moments ago, jonathan talked about the kind of conversations you might have in a pub. some people talked about banter, you know, banter can cross the line. i was reading in the times earlier, they've got a piece today where they've got a piece today where they've contacted various police forces around england to kind of like find out the kind of cases they've been looking at. and there was a case of someone in wales who complained to the police in wales about a social media posting, referring to a welshman. and i have to use careful words here. yes, i saw with a fondness for sheep in a physical way. yes. well, why are the police wasting their time with that? is that genuine hate? is that banter? and i think that actually is the nub of this. >> yeah, it is banter isn't it?
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and the reason we're talking about this, this story has been going on all week. and alison has been under investigation but has been under investigation but has not been charged, by the way, which is an interesting point of his criminal charge. and because kemi badenoch has come out now and said that hate crime laws must be reviewed to protect free speech, and boris johnson has attacked it in his column in the mail today saying the thought police in keir starmer's britain and compared it to the soviet union at its worst. this is completely nonsense. >> this is so this is so typical of johnson. everything that the police have done, they could have done under the previous conservative government, the labour party has not rewritten the rules of policing in the last five months. the police , last five months. the police, quite rightly, have operational independence now , 2995 00:17:42,024 --> 00:17:42
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