well . well. >> good morning and welcome to the camilla tominey show on gb news. don't go anywhere because we've got the best 90 minutes of punchy politics ahead. chief executive of labour together jonathan ashworth will be joining me. i'll be asking him how he would have voted or will vote if he had a vote in the assisted dying bill. that is currently before the house of commons. he's a former shadow health secretary, so that would be an interesting discussion. shadow secretary of state for levelling up, housing and communities, kevin hollinrake mp

will join me. i'm going to get his reaction to essex police dropping their investigation into journalist allison pearson. remember the non—crime hate incident? why the police investigating non—crimes will try and get into that. the former head of mi6, sir richard dearlove, will be with me to discuss the icc's decision to issue an arrest warrant for israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu , also be speaking netanyahu, also be speaking about russia's cyber threat. ollie harrison, the co—founder of the farmers rally, will be to here recap on a busy week for farmers and what needs to happen to protect the countryside next, and the father of elon musk, errol musk, will be live from south africa. i'll be asking him how he thinks his son will do as part of donald trump's administration. joining me now to go through today's front pages is the political correspondent of the

spectator, james heale james. lovely to see you. although i don't know why i'm being so cheery because we're headlining this gremlin in the kremlin, and we've got the double threat, haven't we? because we've got putin and his hypersonic missiles, and we've got pat mcfadden, who is kind of the de facto deputy prime minister. i know it's angela rayner, but he's quite important, isn't he? mcfadden in the whole regime, and he's going to be warning against cyber attacks tomorrow. i think in a speech this week, basically saying that, you know, the threat from putin for all of us is extremely worrying. >> yeah, absolutely cheery start to the sunday. >> but nuclear armageddon, this is really about big speech. that pat mcfadden, as you say, one of the really big but lesser known figures in the labour government is going to be making tomorrow at a nato defence summit and talking about how putin is potentially going to reply to the storm shadow missiles that went in in ukraine last week. one tool in his armoury, of course, is cyber attacks. and this is a piece looking forward to that speech and saying about some of the areas, some of the weak spots that putin might be targeting, either through his own hackers or through state

sponsored independent cyber attackers as well. and one issue, for instance, they talk aboutis issue, for instance, they talk about is the nhs and you could look at some of the very weak software systems we've got there. there's some cyber attacks earlier this year that caused hundreds of appointments to be cancelled. so all these different soft spots, putin and his goons are going to be looking at. >> i'm wondering whether we should be more worried about the idea of being hit by a hypersonic missile or our internet going out completely. i mean, neither are particularly attractive prospects. i note that tobias ellwood, the former defence minister, has been warning that we are under protected. there's also suggestions in today's papers that we need an iron dome, which would be the equivalent of what israel has to protect themselves against attacks from hamas. i mean, do we need an iron dome? james heale. >> well, i think we need a lot more things first. and obviously politics is about priorities and i think i'd rather have, for instance, an army that was bigger than we did at the end of the cold war, for instance. also looking at being able to redress the situation where you have one ministry of defence civil servant, for every one person we have in the army, it's at the ratio. it's about 58,000 each, i believe, reported last week. it's ludicrous, isn't it? i

mean, i don't know what they're all doing, but the point about the iron dome is that, you know, britain is 11 times the size of israel. we've got 75 cities with more than 100,000 people, compared to 15 for israel. we're very different in terms of concentration versus dispersal. i think it would be huge amounts of resources. it would be better to be looking at sort of integrated missile defence systems because let's face it, if it's coming from russia, it's going to be a long—range cruise style missile rather than what we're having in, say, israel, where they've got tehran firing missiles from short range, or drones, for instance. >> although some of the stats around the hypersonic missiles are completely i mean, just sort of defy belief, really travel at 8000 miles an hour can travel over the distance of 3 to 4000 miles, like it's really quite disturbing whether indeed he would turn those on us, of course, remains to be seen. and i'll be speaking to richard dearlove about it later. the former head of m16, because i'd quite like to find out how donald trump might change this situation in regards to russia. so that will come up on the show later. let's move on to another global story, which is this arrest warrant that's been issued by the icc for benjamin

netanyahu. his former defence minister yoav galant, and indeed the head of hamas. but we've got a couple of really good commentaries, both in the times. that's rod liddle writing about it, but also in the sunday telegraph. natasha hausdorf , who telegraph. natasha hausdorf, who speaks on behalf of israel from a legal perspective, basically both saying what on earth is this all about? i mean, what's your view of it? >> well, i very much sympathise with the point that natasha makes about talking about this. the icc was meant to be complementary to national courts. they were meant to work alongside the courts, which are functioning in proper democracies. israel is a functioning, proper democracy. and as she makes the point that actually there's been a number of different israeli leaders who have previously been prosecuted by their own national courts. what this was intended for, when it was set up only in 2002, the icc was set up, was for instances where the rule of law had broken down in countries, or were sort of african warlords, where they were kind of stateless territories. so i think that's the point. i also enjoy the slightly more light hearted point that rod liddle makes in the sunday times when he talks about, actually, if netanyahu did land at heathrow,

the cops probably wouldn't put the cops probably wouldn't put the cuffs on him until he sent a nasty tweet or something like that. yeah, exactly. >> allison pearson appropriate about transgender people. maybe he'd then be arrested finally. yeah, it's bizarre that again, i'll be asking dearlove about it. and also i've got jonathan ashworth coming in, who's the former labour mp. see what he says. because he had a very difficult election campaign at the hands of islamic extremists who this would very much appeal to this decision by the icc. so let's see, let's talk about assisted dying next. we've got this vote on friday, i believe it's been tabled by the labour mp kim leadbeater, who is the sister of the murdered mp jo cox. i know this debate has been going on literally for decades, but there are concerns that this legislation has been rushed. just explain that a bit, james, because we've got evidence in the to sunday times suggest that two thirds of us back assisted dying, but actually, i think mps are becoming increasingly concerned that the law i don't know , could run away with know, could run away with itself. we've seen that happen in places like canada and belgium, for instance. >> absolutely. so this is about, i think, the first sort of test

where we've had a free vote in the house of commons in this new parliament, where we now have 415 or so labour mps. it's a much more secular parliament. and i think it's a parliament where, on balance, a lot more mps are favourable to changing the law. but what people are looking at is two different things, one of which is international examples around the world. and increasingly some of the headlines we've seen coming out of canada, i think if you're talking to different mps who are on the fence, canada is the country that comes up most in all these discussions. and i think, second of all, the key point to make is about how will the law change over time. kim leadbeater is out there, and i have to say, to talking mps who are sceptical, they're very impressed with the parliamentary engagement she's done. 1502 00:07:39,792 -->