all of that to that question. all of that and lots more on alongside me. my and lots more on alongside me. my panel, i've got zoe grindelwald, the political journalist and broadcaster, and charlie downs, the political commentator. but before we get stuck in, let's cross live for the 6:00 news.

>> good evening. i'm sophia wenzler with your headlines at 6:00. labour have no serious plan for ending illegal migration. that's the message from conservative leader kemi badenoch, who says we can no longer be naive. giving a speech a short while ago, she said the conservatives are to thank for a reduction in net immigration expected to be confirmed tomorrow. the tory leader laid out her five point plan for tackling immigration while admitting her party got it wrong in the past . meanwhile, admitting her party got it wrong in the past. meanwhile, earlier today, the conservative leader accused sir keir starmer of making everything worse and dodging the chancellor's pledge making everything worse and dodging the chancellor's pledge not to raise taxes or borrow not to raise taxes or borrow more in the future. in a fiery more in the future. in a fiery exchange at prime minister's exchange at prime minister's questions, sir keir starmer hit back, saying the leader of the :*-= saying the leader of the opposition wanted all the back, saying the leader of the opposition wanted all the benefits of the budget without benefits of the budget without explaining how she'd pay for it. explaining how she'd pay for it. >> two weeks ago, she stood >> two weeks ago, she stood there and said that she wanted there and said that she wanted

all the investment, all the all the investment, all the benefits of the budget. benefits of the budget. >> but she didn't know how she >> but she didn't know how she was going to pay for it. was going to pay for it. >> i noticed that having come >> i noticed that having come here criticising the national here criticising the national insurance rises over and over insurance rises over and over again on monday, she admitted again on monday, she admitted that she wouldn't reverse the that she wouldn't reverse the position that we set out . position that we set out . position that we set out. meanwhile, her science minister position that we set out. meanwhile, her science minister was saying he was going was saying he was going energetically to do the energetically to do the opposite. they really haven't opposite. they really haven't got a clue what they're doing in got a clue what they're doing in response to roars from the response to roars from the labour benches. labour benches. >> kemi badenoch suggested sir >> kemi badenoch suggested sir keir starmer should resign over keir starmer should resign over what she described as labour's what she described as labour's lies. lies. >> if he wants to know what >> if he wants to know what conservatives would do, he conservatives would do, he should resign and find out . should resign and find out. until then, i'm and

bomb threats and tonight, ladies and gents? lots that we nee bombiscuss. tonight, ladies and gents? lots that we nee bomb threats and targeted by bomb threats and swatting. that's according to a targeted by bomb threats and swatting. that's according to a spokesperson for the us spokesperson for the us president elect. it's understood president elect. it's understood the threats were made on tuesday the threats were made on tuesday night and this morning, and law night and this morning, and law enforcement acted quickly to enforcement acted quickly to ensure the safety of those ensure the safety of those targeted . those are the latest targeted . those are the latest targeted. those are the latest gb news headlines. more in an targeted. those are the latest gb news headlines. more in an

hour for the very latest gb news hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to the qr code, or go to gbnews.com/alerts . gbnews.com/alerts . gbnews.com/alerts. >> thank you very much for that. gbnews.com/alerts. >> thank you very much for that. i'm michelle dewberry and i'm i'm michelle dewberry and i'm keeping you company till 7:00 keeping you company till 7:00 this evening alongside with my this evening alongside with my panel this evening alongside with my panel, zoe grunwald, the panel this evening alongside with my panel, zoe grunwald, the political journalist and political journalist and broadcaster , and charlie downs, broadcaster , and charlie downs, broadcaster, and charlie downs, the political commentator. good broadcaster, and charlie downs, the political commentator. good evening to both of you. you're evening to both of you. you're very welcome tonight, as are very welcome tonight, as are each and every single one of you each and every single one of you at home. what's on your mind at home. what's on your mind tonight, ladies and gents? lots tonight, ladies and gents? lots that we need to discuss. that we need to discuss. we'll look at kemi badenoch new immigration plans. i want to ask you a very simple question. who should feed your kids? is it you or is it schools? also, did you see what went down at pmqs today? a labour mp, he's facing criticism as we speak, for basically what many people are

interpreting as calling for blasphemy laws. if that's not interesting enough, you wait till you see keir starmer's response to that question. all of that coming up in the programme, you can get in touch and get involved all the usual ways. email me gb views @gbnews. com go to the website gbnews.com/yoursay. or of course you can tweet or x me. and don't forget if you need to go out you can take me with you. what a treat for you he is because of course we are on the radio now. before i get stuck into all of those topics, i do just actually want to start my programme by paying my want to start my programme by paying my respects to peter lynch. we'll all be familiar with who he is. he very sadly had his funeral this morning . 61 had his funeral this morning. 61 year old grandfather and we all know the story. he took his life very sadly in jail recently. he of course was sentenced to two years and eight months for basically shouting at the police and saying things that you perhaps shouldn't say to the

police . many people suggesting police. many people suggesting racist, provocative remarks. and he ended his life . i mean, what he ended his life. i mean, what kind of society are we in when people are being jailed for acts like this, ladies and gents? and speaking of who is being jailed and who isn't? another story that also caught my eye as well. this fellow, did you see this one? he got released from prison this week. abdul rauf abdullah, he was released two months ago. ladies and gents, the parole board said the following things about this man. i mean, it really stuck in my. well, it stopped me in my tracks, quite frankly, because they're basically the probation officer, the prison officer, the psychologist said that he this guy apparently poses a serious a high risk of serious harm to the public. he shows levels of engagement with extremism and intent to commit terror related offending . apparently they were offending. apparently they were worried that when he was released from prison, there were not plans that were robust

enoughin not plans that were robust enough in place to keep people safe . he was sentenced. he had safe. he was sentenced. he had an extended sentence of nine and an extended sentence of nine and a half years. this was for helping people go to syria and fund and prepare terrorism attacks. i just i don't understand how someone who a parole board literally two months ago as deemed to be all of this high risk and so on and so forth, a high propensity to radicalise others. he is now out on the streets of britain very sadly, grandfather's peter lynch and people like that behind bars for awful words. i mean, i'll leave it to you to be the judge of what you make to it all. and the justice system in this country, a big story today. moving on from that kemi badenoch she has that a lot to say about immigration. let's listen to her define what she thinks the problem is. >> i believe our country is a beacon of light that shines all over the world, a place of

security , opportunity and security, opportunity and prosperity where people policy, >> we will review every policy, treaty and part of our legal framework, including the echr and the human rights act. and in designing our detailed policies, we will put the following elements at the core a strict numerical cap with visas only for those who will make a substantial and clear overall

contribution. a fully transparent approach, publishing all the data so that for the first time, everyone can see the real costs and benefits of different types of migration . a different types of migration. a reconsidered approach to citizenship and settlement making the path to a british passport a privilege to be earned, not an automatic right. zero tolerance for foreign criminals remaining in the uk and of course, an effective deterrent for illegal migration. >> well, there you go. the problem and the potential solution. do you sit there feeling optimistic, going, yes. finally, we've got a plan that's going to fix the immigration that's so very much out of control or not. charlie, where are you on it? >> i are