on christmas day. improve on christmas day. exclusive gb news footage shows hundreds at camps near dunkirk, with thousands more spread along a 50 mile stretch towards calais and boulogne. smugglers are offering so—called christmas specials for crossings, with uk and french authorities bracing for a possible surge over the next five days. border force says it is on a heightened alert as strong winds are set to ease overnight, allowing for more crossings. more than 35,000 migrants have now made the journey so far this year. that is 20% higher than last year's total. sir keir starmer has come under fire today for planning to jet abroad over new year after spending christmas at chequers with his family. critics have slammed his travel habits, with over 170 hours spent in the air since july, while key domestic issues remain unresolved. they say the prime minister's team won't reveal his destination for the new year, but insists he'll stay in charge rather than handing over to his deputy. his

latest foreign trips to norway and estonia wrapped up only just last week, looking towards a better and a brighter future. thatis better and a brighter future. that is the prime minister's christmas message, his first in power. six months into his leadership, he's urging people to look after those around us with calls for peace in the middle east. opposition leader kemi badenoch struck a personal note in her christmas message, calling the season her very favourite time of year and thanking the public for their support and kindness. meanwhile, lib dem leader sir ed davey has paid tribute to young carers, sharing his own experience of looking after his sick mother as a child. there's been more christmas eve frustration today for morrisons customers, with deliveries either late or even cancelled, and that comes more than 24 hours after a system glitch first disrupted orders yesterday. the chaos on the 23rd of december, the busiest grocery shopping day of the year, left shoppers waiting for deliveries worth hundreds of pounds. morrisons has apologised but hasn't revealed the cause of the problem, despite repeated

requests . and nasa's parker requests. and nasa's parker solar probe is set to make history today on christmas eve, with the closest ever approach to the sun. the spacecraft will skim just 3.6 million miles from the star's surface, enduring temperatures of nearly 1000 degrees and speeds of 430,000 miles an hour. scientists say the mission will uncover secrets about the solar activity of the sun, helped to protect satellites, power grids and even astronauts. the spacecraft will then reconnect with earth on the 27th of december, after hopefully safely completing that record breaking flyby. those are the latest headlines for now. i'll be back with you very shortly for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com/alerts. >> well hello there, it's finally upon us. in the words of

noddy holder, it's christmas! how exciting! you know what.7 i thought it'd be rude then, wouldn't it.7 not to do a dewbs& co special. so here we are, delighted to be sharing this christmas with you. and boy have we got a lot to discuss. let's cast our mind back then, shall we, to july. it feels like a lifetime ago, doesn't it.7 the general election. still massive debate raging on about whether it was the right thing or the wrong thing. but what did it mean for this country? and what will the future look like going forward under the labour government? of course, then we saw the budget, didn't we? oh, i can tell you now that really did divide opinion again. have they got their priorities right? who were the winners. who were the losers? and will we see any u—turns on some of the less popular measures. what do you think to that? and of course, a horrendous moment in our country's history saw the awful, awful stabbing of three little girls. what followed then were

riots and protests up and down the country. we remember it well. but what did it all mean for the future of community relations and so much more? also as well, a massive moment again, donald trump re—elected, selected again as the president of the usa. goodness gracious me, there is so much to discuss. so without further ado, let's get stuck in. well hello there! how exciting is this? i'm excited anyway. are you? i am michelle dewberry and i'm with you for the next hour. christmas special dewbs& co. what a treat! and i thought to myself, who best then to spend the next hour with me and with you? look, no one else was available, i'm afraid. matt goodwin, the pollster and academic. >> ho ho ho. >> ho ho ho. >> bill rammell. the former labour minister. i didn't really mean that, by the way. there was

lots of people available, and i said, no, the audience love you too. sorry. who are you? who am i? that isn't enough. that's $1 million question. actually. i often wander the streets late at night, thinking to myself, who am i? and how did i get here? i've never quite answered that, i've never quite answered that, i can tell you. anyway. how are you all? all you lovely people? how is your christmas going? and lots that we need to discuss tonight. and you have had an opportunity to be very much part of this conversation. i'm excited to share with the nation many of your christmas trees. you've all been getting in touch with me as well, telling me your highs and your lows of 2024. so as i said, it's a lot that we need to discuss. but do you know what i thought to myself? since it is christmas, it'd be rude, wouldn't it? not to start with a long standing tradition of dewberry tavern. so without further ado, cheers to each and every single one of you at home. cheers to each and every one of my panel. cheers, everyone! matt goodwin looks like he's been in my tavern for about six hours already. >> cheers. cheers. i helped

myself to this delightful cheeseboard i should add. we've got cheese in front of us. the nafion got cheese in front of us. the nation watching on. we have cheese. lots of cheese. >> we have lots and lots of cheese. actually, we don't have my favourite cheese though, which i'm very disappointed about. well, i just i'm a simple about. well, ijust i'm a simple person and i just like i hadn't person and ijust like i hadn't noticed, i know. well, you're too you're too kind. just like a simple basic cheddar, but like that's that. >> that's a red cheddar. no, the pale one. should we show viewers one? >> everybody. >> everybody. >> should we show viewers our rather? this is this one. >> i don't mind that i will. i will eat that if that's all that's available. i don't mean to be ungrateful, but i do prefer, like the paler coloured cheddar, if you know what mean. >> i'll tell you what though, that that one on the left with the red currants, it only appeared a few years ago and it's everywhere now. >> well, there you go. enough of the cheesy east park. do you see what i did there? yeah, and over the cheesy talk, he's getting a little bit too into it. now. i was going to be telling us all kinds of stats and statistics

about the cheese. will be it will be falling asleep after all of this. so you know what? without further ado, let's take a look back then, shall we? because i couldn't start this program without delving into the general election in july. of course, it took so many of us by surprise, didn't it? shall we remind ourselves of some of the key moments? >> earlier today, i spoke with his majesty the king to request the dissolution of parliament. the king has granted this request and we will have a general election on the 4th of july. >> so i promise this a new mindset. mission, government, an understanding at the core of everything we do for the year. >> the voters finally get to pack up this awful, out of touch conservative government. >> but i hope and believe we can get a cohort of mps in westminster so that we can be the voice of opposition. >> we did it. you campaigned for

it. you fought for it, you voted for it, and now it has arrived. change begins now. >> i'm going to say some of that stuff feels literally just like yesterday, doesn't it? let's just recap. where was you? where was you the night of the election? >> here i was, sat in this very chair. yes. the results rolled in and we were trying to figure out what the exit poll would mean in terms of the majority. and of course, you saw that big sweeping labour majority. but, you know, looking back, what what strikes me today, michel, is something that peter thiel, who's a big, big tech guy in the us said about the re—election of donald trump. of course, this year also saw that sweeping realignment. and he said, interestingly, he said if trump had lost this year, 2016 will forever be seen as the freak outlier. but because trump won, 2016 will now be seen as the beginning of a new era, and i

think the 24 election in the uk, i'm willing to bet, will be seen by historians in the same sense, because i thought what we saw this year was the beginning of the farage reform revolt, which i think will just get bigger and bigger. we saw the two old parties struggling to captivate enthusiasm. yes, labour won, but we all know it wasn't really a vote of big enthusiasm in starmer's labour and the demise of the british conservative party, the demise of the tories. i think 2024 will come to be seen as actually a seismic election that is ushering in this new era of realigned politics. >> where was you on the election night? bill rammell? >> i was at the count in my former constituency of harlow, cheering in the new labour mp. more interestingly, was the calling of the general election. i was sitting at home at lunchtime on the day the election was called, and i got a text from gb news saying, if the election is called this afternoon, will you come into the studio this evening? and i

just roared myself with laughter. yes, they're having a joke. and i tell that story because it still beggars belief that sunak went to the country when he did, and i think majorly he just had enough and he wanted to go to the country and there was that huge landslide. but i said before the election, labour would be elected and be the first party to be elected with a landslide, with no enthusiasm. and i think that's part of the problem that labour is grappling with in government. >> and when you say huge landslide, i know there'll be many people will be watching this in their christmas festive attire and they'll be shouting and going, well, hang on a second. yes, technically it was a landslide, but of course many people will say only 20% of the electorate there or thereabouts voted in this government. >> and that's true. but you know, you play by the rules and labour did get a landslide, but it wasn't with enthusiasm. and that's the challenge that it is facing. but it does have a

significant mandate. now, i'm the first to admit that the first five months of not being brilliant, i don't agree with understatement of the century. i don't agree with you, matt, that 2024 is a seismic election that will lead to the inexorable rise of reform, because i think reform has got a ceiling of about 25% of the vote, because for every one voter that farage inspires, he repels two. and i don't think there's a sustainable coalition to win the general election. >> but it's interesting, isn't it? i remember a lot of people saying that to me when they were at 15%. a lot of folks in westminster would say, well, nigel can never get over 15% of the national vote. but as we're talking now, december 2024, the polling now reform on 25%, 1 in 4 voters. and i think the one thing about this year, and this is true across the west, actually, not just in the uk. what we've seen this year is, is the unavoidable fact that what we call volatility in politics,

the churn, the chaos, voters switching around like consumers in sainsbury's, no longer tribally loyal, that that's now become this permanent feature of politics. so anything can happen in 2029. a guy said to me yesterday, so you don't really think a new party could win the next general election, do you? and my answer was, actually, i think anything is possible. i think anything is possible. i think we, i think we are where labour were built in the early 19005 labour were built in the early 1900s when everyone said, well, this little working class party isn't going to overtake the liberals, is it? and out of nowhere, boom, labour overtook the liberals. >> i think there are three reasons why reform is not going to win the next general election. one is history, and history does matter and a party has never come from that low to win a general election in one parliament. the second reason is geography. yes, reform is about 25% of the vote, but it's spread very thinly across the country and under the first past the post. that doesn't win you. it's not, it's not. the third reason is organisation, the reform organisation at the last general

election was chaotic. and i don't think there's a real sense that it's being pulled together. and finally, if it does look like farage is moving forward in a real contender for victory, he will come under massive scrutiny. and there the policies don't just don't add up, you know, £70 billion of public spending cuts. is that what the pubuc spending cuts. is that what the public wants? >> hang on a second. we're watching farage hang out with vice president elect jd vance, elon musk, donald trump and mar—a—lago. sorry bill, but he seems like he's closer to the incoming american administration than the governing labour party. i mean, it looks like this guy that you're sort of undermining here looks like he's got better relations with the next president of the us and keir starmer. >> we will build a working relationship with the trump administration. but there's no doubt we know what labour thinks about the trump administration and david lammy. and we know what the british people think about trump. i still think trump is a significant danger to the american country and to the keir starmers a danger to the british

community, if i'm honest, given what he's done with chagos and china. >> well, there you go. you've just teed me up nicely there because, he says about what the brits think about donald trump before the end of the programme. we'll be looking at that election results over in the states and asking, what does that mean for the future of britain? you've just mentioned there starmer and his popularity after the break. it'd be rude, wouldn't it, not to look then at labour's first budget. what did you think to this? was you cheering on some of those measures. do you think that they've got their priorities right or not? we'll discuss after the

hello there. welcome back everybody, to this christmas special of dewbs& co. jubilee tavern is of course still open. so i send my cheers to each and every single one of you. it's a

treat to be spending this christmas with you alongside me. he's very excited to be here. i've got to say, matt goodwin, have you ever. you could we could press pause on you doing that there. that could be the christmas card for next year. well, the cheesy thumbs up, couldn't it? look at that. there you go. that's a christmas card. havei you go. that's a christmas card. have i ever saw one? i'll order one alongside a lot of one. and alongside him, we've got the grinch. bill rammell the grinch. >> i'm not the grinch at all. >> i'm not the grinch at all. >> if you're listening on the radio, you're not watching on telly. you are missing the treat of the festive hats on display. i think yours looks the best, bill, just the way it's kind of balanced on your head. you can tell that you really want to be wearing this. i've got it. >> probably got it from lord alli. >> well, yeah, we're saying lord alli. do you remember all of that this year as well? we're looking back as part of this programme on some of the highs and lows of this year. well, of course it'd be rude wouldn't it then not to look at labour's first budget. of course we saw this. it really did divide opinion didn't it. some people say it was great. it had things like your compensation schemes for the postmasters, those

people also compensation for the infected blood scandal victims. labour would argue you had extra funding for the nhs and housing and teachers and all the rest of it, and that's really interesting. but the bits that most people will remember are things like the winter fuel allowance cut, farmers inheritance tax and so on. the bit that i'll remember personally, though, is this £22 billion black hole . billion black hole. >> the government has inherited a £22 billion black hole in the pubuc a £22 billion black hole in the public finances. >> we have inherited a projected overspend of £22 billion, a £22 billion hole in the public finances now, not in the future, but now £22 billion of spending this year that was covered up, in fact. >> so honestly, it makes me jump to a start. then it almost sends me to sleep. that 22 billion on repeat. it has the opposite effect of what it was intended. i'm sure it literally just makes

people zone off. certainly me. anyway, what was your memories, the highs and lows of the budget? >> well, the 22 billion was interesting, isn't it? because everybody from, you know, paul johnson, the head of the respected institute for fiscal studies through to senior business journalists, have all said this is absolute nonsense. laboun said this is absolute nonsense. labour. yes they have, yes they have. hang on a minute, bill. >> the obe a minute, bill, if they knew at the tory spring budget what they know now, their forecasts would have been materially different. that's as close as the obr comes to accusing the last government of. >> i don't know how many of those little drinks have you had, i'm telling you, because everybody in westminster knows, everybody in westminster knows, everybody knows. the numbers were there in the books and what labour are trying to do, understand why they're trying to do it. understand the politics. it's not us, guv. it was the people who came before. but no one's buying it anymore. which is why, as we sit here, december 24th, keir starmers ratings —32 rachel reeves is basically the same. that's what i'd call prince andrew territory in the polling world. everybody can see through this. and it's about, you know, i think for me this

yean you know, i think for me this year, it was about the political choices that this labour government has made. like we always knew that labour were going to be bad with the economy because labour are always bad with the economy. the only time labour has been good with the economy is new labour, when they inherited much of the legacy of the conservative administration. but the but the thing that really got me was the choices. let's smash british pensioners to save 1.5 billion while not doing anything with our asylum system, which is costing us 5.4 billion. let's smash family farms up and down the country to save 500 million. well, let's give countries around the world 100 million in the misguided hope that it will stop migration upstream. we even just found £11 million for syria out of nowhere. that's about 35,000 winter fuel payments for british pensioners that we could have given. it'sjust pensioners that we could have given. it's just these little political choices that the labour government has made. and here we are again, big, you know, big state, low growth, big tax, big regulation economy with growth rates built. if we come back and do this in five years, this growth rates of 1.5%. back and do this in five years, this growth rates of 15%. well dismal. >> well you know the

international forecast is that the uk economy will perform amongst the best in the world in the year ahead. let's come back not over the next five years. >> and you know what? >> and you know what? >> let's come back to reality. we can have a debate about the size of the black hole. but this labour government has had the worst fiscal inheritance of any government i can recall in my lifetime. yes, there was a hole. yes, there were a whole host of projects that were there, but there was no funding for them. you know, the 30 hospitals that were supposed to be built, not a penny of public funding for them. the commitment to move to 2.5% of gdp for defence, no funding there at all, just a press release. that's what labour has had to grapple with. now. we said we wouldn't raise the direct personal taxes, taxes on working people, and we did not do that. that means to get the investment that you need, you do need some taxes to go up. and labour has levied those on businesses and on the wealthy through inheritance tax. i think

thatis through inheritance tax. i think that is the right choice. and it has delivered 22 billion extra for the national health service, £1 billion to tackle homelessness, a record settlement for local government. the key will be the impact of that investment. and as it starts to deliver, i think you will see a change in political look at what some of the other choices this government has made, because there's a lot there i could take issue with. >> here's a little thing that really grinds me right, really irritates me. labour has even removed the requirement that we should prioritise british nationals when allocating social housing. now, why has it done that now? >> i would argue because local councils have the ability to make labour fundamentally is not really about prioritising the british people over other people. >> that's basically what's happened.so >> that's basically what's happened. so by what we've got here for the next five years slogan, but it's not true. well, it's actually what they've done. >> the last labour government, unlike the tories, significantly reduced asylum and immigration. this government is already beginning to make progress. deportations are at record levels, record numbers, asylum

rates, bill record numbers of flights, taking people back overseas, you know, deals with countries like iraq to stop migrants upstream that will begin more and more to have an impact of reducing immigration. >> sure. but that that this is where this is where we are with the old parties. they're just lying to the country over and over what labour have done in order to pretend you're an advocate for reform. i understand that pretend, but i'm an advocate for no political party. but i'm here to say that when conservatives and now labour are saying they're controlling the asylum system, let's be honest, this was the year 24 was the year where immigration became the number one issue in the country. it's the number one issue in all the polls now. no it's not, it is. it's the issue tracker. >> the economy and living standards are the most important. i acknowledge that immigration is important and it needs to be. >> i'm going to just respond to this because when you say we're sending all of these people outside of britain not true. what labour are doing is anyone who's made it to britain, including those who have arrived illegally, they're giving two thirds of those people the right

to asylum, which is basically like saying to syria, iraq, afghanistan, vietnam and anywhere else in the world come to britain and we'll rubber stamp your rights as well. >> deportations, removing people from this country. six, 9000, a 30% increase. >> you've allowed. >> you've allowed. >> 60,000 is real. >> you've allowed 60,000 people to stay. >> yes, because allowing people to come here, not dealing with their claims, as the last government did, was like a green flag to come to this country. your claim won't be dealt with. your claim won't be dealt with. you can disappear into the black economy and nothing will be done. >> we couldn't go on like 2024 was the year where again, everybody lied to the british people. >> i can just hear the cheers that have just gone up on the surface on that last statement. i can hear you from here. look, so many of you have been in touch with me as well, wishing yourselves each other a very merry christmas, mike. you're very nice. you said the highlights of his year has been getting to watch us five evenings a week. thank you mike.

we appreciate that very much. there is still lots that we need to discuss on dewbs& co this christmas special. donald trump. you can't argue whatever you think of him. a key moment of 2024 is his election. what will it mean for the future of the uk? and also awful, awful scenes that we saw in the middle of this year, the murder of those three little girls in southport. i want to look back on that. and of course, the protests and riots that followed that to go anywhere. wrap a merry little christmas. >> let your. heart be. light from now on, our troubles will

be out of. sight. have. yourself a merry little christmas. make the yuletide. gay. from now on, our troubles will be miles. away. here we are. as in olden days. happy golden days of yore. faithful friends who are dear to us. gather near to us once more. through the least we all will be

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you. >> well, we started this program by looking backwards as some of the key points of the year. we've looked at the election, we've looked at the labour budget and looked at what that meant at the time and may mean going forward for the country. but of course, one of the most monumental moments of 2024 was the horrendous, horrendous situation which unfolded in southport, which saw the murder of three little girls, three innocent little girls. the only thing that they were doing were attending a taylor swift concert with their friends to learn the dance routines of their idol. we all know what happened next, but let's take a second to remind ourselves. >> arrested on suspicion of murder and attempted murder after two children died during a ferocious knife attack in

southport on merseyside today. nine other children have been injured in the attack. six of those are in a critical condition in hospital. they all sustained stab wounds. >> whether the truth is being withheld from us, i don't know the answer to that, but i think it is a fair and legitimate question. >> police have condemned the disorder, which broke out in southport this evening on merseyside, where earlier a vigil was held to remember the three little girls killed in a multiple knife attack. >> i am very worried about high levels of knife crime and i'm absolutely determined that my government will get to grips with it, but today is not the time for politics. today is the time for politics. today is the time to focus entirely on the families who are going through such pain and grief. >> elsie dot stancombe alice akua and bebe king, who nine, seven and six years old. >> i am heartbroken about this incident as any parent or sane minded person would be.

>> now they're learning that crime has consequences, that i won't tolerate a breakdown in law and order under any circumstances, and i will not listen to those who exploit grieving families and disrespect local communities. but these riots didn't happen in a vacuum. they exposed the state of our country, revealed a deeply unhealthy society. the cracks in our foundations laid bare, weakened by a decade of division and decline, infected by a spiral of populism which fed off cycles of failure of the last government. i won't shy away from calling it what it is far right thuggery to those who feel targeted because of the colour of your skin or your faith. i know how frightening this must

be. i want you to know that this violent mob do not represent our country, and we will bring them to justice. many, many people across the country are concerned about immigration, but they wouldn't for a minute go on to the street and throw a brick at a police officer. the disorder is intolerable. it is incapable of justification. it's clearly racist. and i'm now expecting substantive sentencing before the end of this week. that should send a very powerful message. we had police deployed in numbers in the right places, giving reassurance to communities. we were able to demonstrate the criminal justice system working speedily in relation to online and social media. the first thing i'd say is this is not a law free zone, and i think that's clear from the prosecutions and sentencing. today. we're due sentencing for onune today. we're due sentencing for online behaviour. that's a reminder to everyone that whether you're directly involved

or whether you're remotely involved, you're culpable and you will be put before the courts if you've broken the law. >> i mean, that is just absolutely awful. the entire country, understandably, was shaken by what happened in southport. we've just been reminded people of what unfolded next. matt goodwin, your thoughts? >> yeah, i think obviously it was a watershed moment in our country's history. i think it also became a lightning rod for so much else. i mean, it wasn't only the fact that for millions of people in this country, the southport atrocities were clearly linked to much bigger issues around migration, broken borders, people not feeling safe and secure in britain. but as we've since discovered, the atrocities were also really about our free speech crisis. the clampdown on free expression, the state not telling people what it knows and when it knows those things. and we've seen mps like rupert lowe

and others in parliament now really running with that campaign and saying, look, you've got to give people the information, you've got to let them know what's going on. and i think as we look ahead to 25, clearly the court case, which we need to be very careful about, but the court case will be one of the biggest stories in 2025 as well. >> of course it is. it will be commencing that court case on the very same day of the inauguration over in the states. ihave inauguration over in the states. i have just got to say, there was so much misinformation and false false information as well coming out of social media around those times. bill, your thoughts? >> i think you've got to separate the two things. i mean, one, what happened to those three girls was disgusting and appalling and breaks your heart utterly unacceptable. but then what flowed from it was again, unacceptable. and matt, you've just said something that you've not got a shred of evidence for. there's not a shred of evidence to back that up and statements

like that. and there were others dunng like that. and there were others during those days afterwards, you know, nigel farage was at the forefront of spreading false information. it led to a scale of violence, thuggery and attempted murder that i've not seen on our streets before. you know, firebombing hotels where people were living, storming mosques, you know, throwing bncks mosques, you know, throwing bricks at the police. and i think in those circumstances, there had to be a coordinated action between the government, the police and the courts to restore order very quickly. and that happened, and i welcome it. none of that means that it is wrong for people to debate, to question and criticise immigration. that's absolutely right and proper. but violence and thuggery is not. >> i'm glad. i'm glad you said that, bill, because i think what has frustrated so many people in this country was that they could see this very clear, as you said yourself, this very clear attempt to manage a population

to clamp down very hard. and let's be honest, bill, some of the things, but in some cases but some of the things that have been said on facebook, i've read some of the cases in detail, some of the cases in detail, some of the things that people have said on facebook actually strike me as not views i would share, but being pretty direct, i wouldn't. certainly i wouldn't view them as illegal statements about the impact of immigration on the country. and i've looked at some of these cases since southport, and i've thought there's quite a lot of state overreach going on here in this case. now, when there's violence involved, it's a different matter. but i think what many people can sense is that the state in the aftermath of southport overreached and kind of went after people that maybe it should not have gone after. >> well, look, you and i have debated this before and, you know, i'm a very, very strong defender and supporter of freedom of speech and open debate. but there is a line and the line is committing acts of violence or inciting people to

commit acts of violence. and every one of those demonstrators who has been sentenced has been found guilty in a court of law of deliberately inciting, often by often by judges who didn't imprison, for example, paedophiles, which we know now know is the case. >> the other thing about 2024, this is no bill. this is really interesting. someone people at home will be saying 24 incites violence. >> people, do you think they should be prosecuted? >> do you think that a guy at home saying pondering out loud mass immigration might lead to conflict on our streets should go to prison? no. right. what he did there was a military veteran with ptsd who was sent to prison. the other thing is, lots of people quote all the other things, but lots of people at home have been there convicted for incitement to violence. there were people who went to prison this year who i don't think to be. look, to be frank, i'm a bit more radical than most people in that i don't believe anybody really should go to prison for something they write on social media, in the privacy of their own home. i think it's

orwellian to drag people out of their homes, put them into prison for something they've said online. now, if it is deliberate incitement to violence, absolutely, that's a problem. but if it's i'm not really comfortable with immigration or i'm not really comfortable with islam in british life, and you don't think that should be sent to prison for that bill? there are some very, very borderline cases. this is the other thing that this year where this is interesting. the first is people have watched, for example, huw edwards not go to prison, but they've watched people who have said pretty, you know, not not extreme views, and they've gone to prison. that's been one of the interesting things this yeah the interesting things this year. and the other thing is x, the platform x, we've seen a mass exodus of so—called liberals from x leave because they can't tolerate different views. and at the same time, i think many people out there now say, thank god for elon musk. thank god that we can really see what's going on. >> one of the problems in these debates is selective quoting of the evidence in cases, and you're doing it at infinitum.

matthew, if you go to the record of those court judgements, there were serious incitements to violence in the in terms of people who went to prison. and i think that was right. >> well, what about huw edwards? >> well, what about huw edwards? >> it's a separate case. >> it's a separate case. >> but but this is what people are asking. >> he wasn't inciting people to violence. >> so you don't think he should have gone to prison? >> i don't i honestly don't know enough about the case. >> i think if you download indecent images of children, you should go to prison. >> well, look, i've always said if i was the prime minister of this country, which i always say to you, it's a good thing that i'm not. quite frankly, i would make sure that anyone that viewed any child abuse imagery was behind bars. but that's just me. i mean, the key point in this southport situation, there's been so much speculation and that will continue. but really this is an ongoing legal case. the facts of the matters will really only become clear once that legal case commences in the new year. but i do just think it's really important just to take a second to remember that at the heart of this story,

three little girls lost their lives. i cannot even imagine what their families and loved ones must be going through this christmas. and i do just want to say, my heart goes out to each and every single one of you. >> i forecast a perfect holiday in the sun weather looking good then for sure. and no worries about our travel insurance allclear travel insurance sponsors gb news travel destinations forecast. >> no snow for the uk this christmas, but there is of course other parts of europe, particularly across the south east. generally. fine and sunny for the canaries on christmas day and across madeira as well. that will be quite windy here. plenty of winter sunshine on offer across iberia, but it will be turning cooler here with the winds coming down from the north. heavy rain across the balkans and italy on christmas eve clearing, but some snow flurries following and some heavy downpours across greece

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>> hello there! welcome back to dewbs& co, the christmas special with me michelle dewberry also alongside me some of my faves. mark goodwin, the pollster and academic and bill rammell, the former labour minister. lots of you have been writing in to me with your highs and your lows and your christmas trees. we started off this programme talking about the election. i can tell you one of the highs of my 2024. i don't mind indulging myself for a second. i hope you don't mind either. it was this moment the gb news election party over in essex. many of you kept me company there, but this was a particular highlight. listen. de—man. waafs vegas.

>> viva las vegas! william kedjanyi owen paterson. >> honestly, i could just suck off the rest of the show and sit and listen to him doing his elvis music. absolutely superb. i say cheers to him again and cheers to each and every single one of you at home. merry christmas, merry christmas, merry merry, merry christmas everybody. let's have a quick look at some of the trees. then there in the living rooms of our viewers as you speak. >> look at this. >> look at this. >> that's a nice traditional one. oh, nice. that's got a wide bottom. that one has nice and colourful. look at this. you're a creative. oh, massive santa there. is that a picture or a bay window? i can't quite work out because i'm looking at this on a small screen. i think it's a massive santa santa statue in a massive santa santa statue in a bay window. i like it. oh, it's a little grotto i think they've set up, i like that. what's been your highs, 2024? >> oh, it's got to be coming on this show with you, michel. thank you. >> let's just cut the programme there. >> can i carry on? dangle a little bit of mistletoe? we've

got any mistletoe backstage. hang on. >> i'll go backwards. bill rammell can step in. we're an inclusive, progressive organisation. >> i would say highlight. well, you know, the us election, that was a really big moment for me. i mean, watching that big trump landslide, i think that was really interesting being down on the ground in clacton actually, and just seeing, you know, that kind of pivotal moment of nigel farage going into the house of commons. i think for many people that was quite a big moment. but yeah, for me it's this kind of more evidence of what i've been working on for ten, 15 years that actually this realignment that actually this realignment thatis that actually this realignment that is unfolding across the west is real and it's accelerating. and i think many people, for the first time in a long time, michel, maybe people watching this are feeling like actually my voice is in the pubuc actually my voice is in the public debate now. i am actually applying pressure on the system. >> fill your highs of 2024. >> fill your highs of 2024. >> i'd be less than honest if i didn't say it was the labour general election victory. after 14 years in opposition to get a

majority of 172 was absolutely fantastic. so that was the high. the low, unlike matthew, was the election of donald trump. and i'm not in government. i'm not on the frontbench. i can say i think it's a disaster. >> oh, scrooge! scrooge over there. >> i want to bring you guys in, and then i'll bring in donald trump as well, because i'm telling you now, lots of you guys got in touch with me. i asked you for your highs and lows. and i'm not just saying this, but lots of people care. and you've said your biggest high was donald trump winning without a question. he says, me and my girlfriend were overjoyed. we celebrated with copious amounts of champagne. i hope you've recovered from said copious amounts, brian said. politics seems to dominate everything, and the highs for me, however, will always be the recovery. this is nice. the recovery. this is nice. the recovery of king charles and kate. and he says, i hope that that will be a permanent recovery. that's a good one. and he says the lows simple. he says the betrayal and dishonesty of the betrayal and dishonesty of the labour government. noel says the labour government. noel says the election of nigel farage to

parliament was a massive high for him. he says the lowest of the lows was reeves and starmer scrapping the winter fuel allowance. he says he doesn't know how how keir starmer sleeps. ray says the lows was that my cat went missing. oh, but the highs was that he came back one week later. yay! we do like a happy ending, ray. so we do on this programme. look donald trump, let's just finish just reflecting on him. what do you think his election will mean for the uk? >> i think it's a seismic moment. i think i mean, the implications are enormous. i think it offers us an opportunity to do something different, other than what the labour government obviously wants us to do, which is, you know, become chained to a stagnating, declining european bloc that is divided politically and unproductive economically. i think trump offers us offers us actually a genuine alternative. i think he also for many people

and one of your one of your viewers, i think has just summarised that, you know, it's a big pushback against this creeping censorship and clampdown on free speech that we've all felt in recent years. trump's not tolerating that. it's a big pushback against woke ideology. trump's not tolerating that. it's a big pushback against china, against all of those authoritarian regimes. well, keir starmers just signing a new economic relationship with china. well, trump's not putting up with that. he's actually, you know, if anything, you know, maybe i'm being no, i think i'm right in saying this. i think 2024 saw the west reasserting itself, the return of someone who is unapologetic in saying western civilisation is the greatest civilisation this planet's ever seen, and we're going to defend it and promote it. >> well, i know it's christmas and you're supposed to be charitable, but matt, that's the biggest load of bunkum i've ever heard. >> trump well, it's not surprising someone on the left doesn't believe in us commitment to free speech. >> this is a man who's now going

to use the power of the presidency to go after the press and go after people who've been critical of him. that's not the mark of a democrat. that's the mark of a democrat. that's the mark of a dictator. you talk about a beacon of hope for the west. this is a man who sucks up to putin, sucks up to dictators. he's got an economic agenda that's going to be damaging for the world and damaging for this country. he has commitments to tariffs, are economically illiterate, and he's committed to a budget deficit that dwarfs in terms of unfunded tax cuts, that which liz truss put forward. i'll give one ground of hope, though. trump likes to be seen as a good guy, and he likes to be seen as someone who brings peace. and he might just be the person who forces israel into a longer term settlement with the palestinians. and if he does that, it would be a good thing. >> one thing that i can be absolutely sure of when it comes to 2025 is that the debates regarding donald trump is going

to go absolutely nowhere. i imagine that in among some of your households this christmas, the debate will be fierce about donald trump and whether or not you support him, love him or love him. many people have got in touch as well about their highs. luke littler remember that name. i love this guy. many people saying that this is your high of 2024 as well. take a look. there he is. look at him. i was glued to the dance. i have to say, when he was playing for the first time. i've always wanted to go to ally pally actually and get dressed up. i've never quite managed it, but i've never quite managed it, but ihave i've never quite managed it, but i have to put that on my resolution list of something that i want to do. but look, our time has almost come to an end. i do just want to take a second. then by ending by saying thank you to each and every single one of you who've chosen to be with us, not just over the last hour, of which, of course, i appreciate, but much broader. we really do. we like all of our viewers. we do feel like quite a big family here on gb news. so

when you're spending time with your loved ones and your family, tell them about gb news. they'll all be very welcome to come and join us as viewers and listeners in 2025. but look, whatever the year ahead holds for us, we will be right here with you along your side for all the highs and all the lows. and don't worry, we will get it, get through it together. but for now, from me, from all of us here on gb news, we wish you a very, very merry christmas. we'll see you on the other side. cheers. >> cheers everybody. >> cheers everybody. >> merry christmas, merry christmas, merry christmas,

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>> good evening. welcome to the nigel farage christmas special here live from maidstone. i've got some very special guests tonight. i've got vixen and christmas joining me. i have to say, this is the most ambitious thing i've ever done on gb news. but aren't they beautifully behaved? we're going to have a great show for you. we're going to talk about reflections on the yeah to talk about reflections on the year. we're going to have a look at the amazing sparkling wines that kent is now producing. neil razor ruddock will be joining us for talking pints, and we've got a fab military band at the end. and i have to say with these reindeer, it's so far so good. thank you. >> thank you for coming. thank you for taking.