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>> hello, it's 7:00. welcome to gbn tonight with me emily carver on the show this new year's eve, farmers across the country have begun lighting their beacons of hopein begun lighting their beacons of hope in a new year's eve protest. we'll be speaking to one of the organisers as pressure mounts on the labour government. could 2025 be the year of the farmers revolt? meanwhile, as labour oversees a year on year increase in small boat crossings, gb news has been told by the former head of border force that labour will never stop the crisis unless they make one big change. and in what has been dubbed sir keir starmer's reward for failure,
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mayor of london sadiq khan has been knighted in the new year's honours. but why has khan, who loves decolonising things, agreed to become knight of the order of the british empire? plus, we'll be looking at some of the new year's eve celebrations across the country. they haven't all been cancelled. i'm hearing our reporters will be live on the scene and that's all to come this new year's eve after the latest headlines with sophia wenzler. >> emily. thank you. good evening. your headlines at 7:00. japan, australia and new zealand were the first to ring in the new year, with celebrations and fireworks displays. they were followed by hong kong and taiwan, who in the last few hours celebrated the new year. and thailand, vietnam and india have also rung in the new year in the past hour. but as world welcomes in 2025, severe weather is set to hamper britain's new
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year's events. the edinburgh hogmanay celebrations have been cancelled due to severe weather conditions. heavy rain and high winds are causing disruption in much of the country, with blizzards forecast in scotland and widespread travel disruption. fireworks displays in newcastle, blackpool and nonh in newcastle, blackpool and north yorkshire have all been cancelled. meanwhile, london has confirmed its annual new year's eve fireworks display will go ahead this evening despite the weather concerns. london mayor sadiq khan has received a knighthood in the new year's honours list, sparking fury among some amid his controversial ulez scheme and london's spiralling crime rate. sir keir starmer has been accused of rewarding failure as knife crime has increased in the capital by 50% since khan took office in 2016. the shadow home secretary, chris philp, said londoners would be furious. meanwhile, the newly appointed sir sadiq said he was truly humbled to receive the honour.
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in other news, tony blair's labour government pushed on with plans to open uk borders to eastern europe despite mounting concerns from senior ministers. that's according to newly released official files . the released official files. the national archives has published cabinet office files from 2003 to 2004, when tony blair was prime minister. the documents revealed the issue of immigration was top of the agenda, with senior ministers urging the then prime minister to delay granting employment rights to eastern and central european workers. when the eu expanded in 2004. but mr blair's government went ahead with the plans despite the warnings, and johnnie walker has been described as a broadcasting legend following his death, aged 79. it comes two months after the radio presenter called time on his 58 year career because of ill health. dj bob harris, who took over bbc radio two sounds of the 70s show after walker's
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retirement, announced his former colleagues death live on the station today. helen thomas, head of bbc radio two, described him as a much loved broadcasting legend, while the radio dj's wife tiggy has said she couldn't be more proud of her husband. and as new year celebrations get underway in the uk, police have shared footage of a driver who reportedly fell asleep at the wheel before crashing into a house as a warning about the dangers of drink driving. >> i suspect that you have had too much to drink and you're behind the wheel of this vehicle, so i'm currently going to lock you up for being unfit through drink or drugs, okay? you do not have to say anything at my defence. you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. anything you do say may be given in evidence. do you understand? >> south yorkshire police said officers in the force area came across a 40 year old man asleep in front of a car, which he had hit the side of a house in rotherham. temporary roads
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policing inspector brandon brown said we are releasing this footage on new year's eve to show road users just how dangerous drink driving can be. those are the latest gb news headlines. now it's back to emily for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to. >> gbnews.com/alerts. >> gbnews.com/alerts. >> welcome back to jennie bond tonight with me emily carver. happy new year's eve to you at home now, one of the biggest thorns in the side of sir keir starmer since his record tax raising budget has been the farmers. a number of disruptive protests have unravelled across the country in recent months, and the government still continues to show absolutely no sign of wavering on its decision to impose inheritance tax on farms, the family farm tax rate and the farmers show no signs of
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stopping. could it be that 2025 is the year of the farmers revolt across the country? farmers have begun lighting their beacons today of hope in their beacons today of hope in their latest demonstration against the government. here we go. here's for those listening on the radio. we're currently watching the beacon being put together in at the farm there by protest organiser oli harrison, who spent all day putting together this beacon before setting it alight moments ago, along with dozens across the country. there it is already alight. well, i'm delighted to say oli joins me now live from liverpool. oli, thank you very much indeed forjoining us. now you've organised this as a as a protest, a beacon of hope. you're in your tractor right now aren't you? and happy new year's eve to you. so tell us, what does this beacon protest mean? >> well, it was just something to give everyone something to do , to give everyone something to do, because everyone was wanting to get a little bit angry and start blocking roads and getting very european, shall we say. and we were like, well, what can we do to symbolise that, you know, the
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anger and the heat in the countryside at the moment, the fact that the countryside, you know, it's burning basically, you know, if it carries on and no one puts it out, there'll be no one puts it out, there'll be no countryside left. there'll be no countryside left. there'll be no farmers left, there'll be no uk food production. so we thought, well, it's easy to do. we can make some beacons. this is mine. you can see on the screen now it is actually behind my shoulder at the moment. but i think it's just, just off, off camera. it needs a few logs putting on it. but it was just a focal point really. you know, get get people involved. we've got over 3500 people registered today to do one. so it's been a massive success within 24 hours, really 3500. >> that's amazing. and will you receive all the pictures of these beacons from across the country? will you be showing them all online or wherever? how is it going to be broadcast? apart from of course, all gb news. yeah. >> so we've told we've told farmers to put them on and on all the social media, share it with the hashtag farming beacons. and hopefully, you know, you'll see all them. i know, you'll see all them. i know i put a video on very early. i lit it quite early just
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for your show and unfortunately it's you can't really see it behind me now. >> oh no it's not run out has it. it's not gone out has it. i can see it in the distance there. behind you. >> yeah yeah yeah. just, just it needs a few logs putting on it now, but yeah, mine's been burning since about 5:00 now. so it's ready for some some more timber putting on it. but no, 3500 across the country. the idea is everyone can see the neighbours. i could see one over there before actually. but yeah, that's an old map. actually, it's updated a lot since that point now, but no, it's gone. well, you know, we just want to sit down with the treasury and. oh policy. they've just got the numbers wrong. >> yeah. i mean, do you have hope?i >> yeah. i mean, do you have hope? i mean, you've got the beacons of hope. so presumably you do have hope that in 2025 the government might see sense on this policy. what do you think? >> i think so, yeah. i mean, some of the people that advised the treasury thought there was nothing wrong with the policy. after the first week or so, they
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quickly realised that it was wrong. and, you know, defra, nfu, everyone's figures are different to what the treasury were working with. they didn't have the best of data. we've got better data. they can still achieve what they want to without destroying family farms, you know. and we've just got to keep the pressure on, keep the heat on. there's other things planned in the new year, but this is just just to see out the end of this year. >> well, you know what, oli? i wish you all the luck in the world and a very happy new year's. and i hope 2025 does bnng year's. and i hope 2025 does bring potentially that change of heart from the government. thank you so much and good luck to all the others around the country lighting these beacons of hope this evening on new year's eve, right? i would like to introduce my panel. journalist and broadcaster linda duberly and speaker and social commentator adrian hayes. thank you very much indeed. i hope i haven't butchered your surname though. no, you did very well. okay. fantastic. thank you. i mean, what do you make of that? that's a lovely protest, isn't it, linda, do you think the government are going to listen, or do you think there is going to be some kind of farmers revolt come 20? >> i think they might listen, i think, do you know what those
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beacons remind me of? my school history books, where we saw the beacons that were lit all along the south coast when we were trying to repel the spanish armada. and i feel the same sense of optimism with this protest from the from the farmers. it's good to see such an impactful, peaceful protest, but i don't think it will remain peaceful. i think the farmers will become much more agitated. and i get the feeling that although i spoke to several comms advisers after the budget, that they felt that keir starmer would do something of a u—turn, would do something of a u—turn, would turn around and change things a bit. i think he's more than likely to dig his heels in now. and the problem is you've got the farmers who are going to do exactly the same thing, and in the end, it won't be a protest alone about the inheritance tax. it will be a really important division between the rural community and the urban community. and that's what i worry about, because that's that's a deep and profound split in this country. >> it does seem that way, doesn't it, adrian?
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>> i mean, i'm surprised the farmers took so long to protest because obviously on the on europe, they've been protesting against net zero regulations. but i'm from the country. i live in the new forest. i came back from the gym, i saw some tractors. i thought about 5 or 10. there was about 100. so there's a lot of passion, there's a lot of passion, there's a lot of passion there, a lot of support. i think what you said, linda, that right now the public is right behind the farmers. the problem they've got is, is if it does become a little bit more, let's call it aggressive. will you keep the pubuc aggressive. will you keep the public on the side? the beacon idea is fantastic because that doesn't harm anyone. but we've seen you've got to keep the pubuc seen you've got to keep the public on side. and of course with every cause in history, some of them great causes have been sort of not necessarily but just taken over by more radical elements. and i know in the farmers community there is some more aggressive talk of supermarket blockades and the like. once you lose public support, i think will lose it. but going back to the prime minister, i just don't think politicians, the metropolitan elite living up here in london, i just don't think they understand rural community. and i don't think he's he's a man
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fit for tony wood. >> they understand rural communities. if you look at the cabinet, all representing urban areas, not much experience of getting your hands dirty on the farm. i'm not saying you have to have that experience to be able to make policy for farming, but it might be an indication of whether you know anything about it. >> well, yes, but call me cynical, but historically, traditionally, most of the voters for the labour party, the density of voters are in urban areas. yes. and most of the voters for the conservatives are in the rural areas. so i think obviously that keir starmer will have done some kind of risk calculation before the budget to see whether he could introduce some of these really tough measures and still get away with it. and i think he's still he's still pressing forward because i don't think he's met enough resistance yet. >> do you think it all comes down? and perhaps that's the same with the winter fuel payments. it is that many pensioners, labour, although they have picked up about 100 rural seats at the last
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election, it's quite difficult for some of these new labour mps. that's right, to face their constituents. yeah, adrian. >> but the problem is that the money that they'll be saving or making is pittance, just like the winter fuel allowance. i mean, when you think, you know, it's been announced on tv yesterday, ed miliband's net zero campaign cult i would say is 37 billion. actually it's more it's going to be £100 billion per year for the next 30 years. when you're looking at the farmers, i think it's more of an ideological, as you said, linda and yourself, emily, an ideological sort of policy, not for anything for financial, but just it's horrible, though, because they frame it as if it's something that must be done in order to get this money into the treasury in order to pay for crumbling public services. >> and the same with the tax on school fees and all of that. talking about ed miliband, jan in dorset says keep lighting those beacons. it will upset miliband as well. presumably there's a few little carbon emissions, she says. double whammy. burn the beacon, burn the beacons, roy says. the whole country is fed up. join us in london on the 1st of february in
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peaceful protest. i'm not sure what protest that is if that's a farmer's one. grumpy grandad says happy new year. i hope you have the best one ever, which is rather nice. lots of support for these beacons of hope. it's quite a romantic protest. >> yeah, i think so. and it's kind of emblematic. it looks wonderful, doesn't it? and it's saying something really powerful without causing anyone any fuss. because adrian is absolutely right. once these protests, like, for example, just stop oil protests, for example, when they've had all the super glue onto the onto the motorways. you know, at the end of the day, people just get really, really fed up when they're sat for three hours on the motorway over some kind of environmental protest like this. so the farmers do have to be quite careful, i think. >> but they've got that's where you see just stop oil is this net zero coal? i'm an environmentalist and i'm a sustainability advocate. and, you know, politicians preach about sustainable this and sustainable that. one of the aspects of saying to sustainability is sustainable food production. we don't have enough food in our country to feed the burgeoning population, which is 70 billion, 70 million
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plus. so plastering farmland with with solar panels and wind farms does not help that situation either. so again, we've got to look at the big picture on this whole protest, why it started, why we need the fires, why we need food production in this country. >> well, yeah, i mean, some people would say, oh, we don't need to make all the food here. we can just import it from elsewhere. and yes, that is true. but what about if something happened? what if we entered wartime? god forbid. you know, who knows? you need to have food security. just like you need energy security. >> yeah, and it's already happened with energy. it's already happened. so we know there's going to be a problem. we should be trying to produce as much as we can. but the fact of the matter is, i don't think we can produce everything we need food wise in this country. >> we do have to accept we can't produce avocados, for example, and we know how important that is. yes, absolutely. all those are. anyway, mary says all farmers need to do to keep the pubuc farmers need to do to keep the public on side is to remind them that the government is sending the equivalent money in farmers tax to farmers abroad. yes, this is some of the foreign aid as well that is going directly to
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farmers in other countries, right? at the same time as taxes are being put on our farmers. i mean, i think it's fair enough to point out that that doesn't quite add up. right. thank you to my panel for now, linda and adrian, in a moment, we're going to be hearing reaction to the latest scathing critique of labour's small pox plan, if there is one, as total channel crossing figure revealed.
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yeah. okay. okay. welcome back to gbn tonight with me , emily to gbn tonight with me, emily carver and a very happy new year's eve to you. now, gb news has been told today that the government will never solve the small boats crisis unless it bnngsin small boats crisis unless it brings in this one thing, and that is, guess what? an effective deterrent. now, this comes as the number of illegal migrants who crossed the channel this year reached nearly 37,000 people. that's 25% higher than last year's total. so the former head of the uk border force, tony smith, he told us that more
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needs to be done to put an end to the crisis. >> listen, the best tactics are disruption. the criminal justice system does not work well. in my experience with international organised crime, the best you can really hope for is to disrupt the gangs, take their money off them, take them out of the business, bring in people into the criminal justice system is really quite difficult to do. so i mean, i think there has been an uptick in activity. i think, you know, the outreach to other countries, you know, other european countries and beyond is important. but this is international organised crime. so it's really difficult, you know, for a uk agency, be that the new border security council or the national crime agency to be able to smash the gangs on their own, they need the cooperation of the europeans of the source and transit countries. so there's a really big overseas outreach element that's required if we're going to make significant progress into this industry. i think it's right that the government are talking to source and transit countries. that is a key objective, and i think that will help in disrupting the
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international organised crime gangs. but it's not a panacea. it's a lot of work to get an agreement with a single country on on returns, because there's usually something in it for them. so i'd be really interested to see how how the government gets on in creating those kinds of agreements. and there's a lot of countries out there's a lot of countries out there where, you know, the migrants are coming through, be they source or transit country. so it's quite a big undertaking for them. i think the eu countries, many of the member states are now moving to the right on immigration. they are concerned, their communities are concerned, their communities are concerned about the levels because they are now doing interdictions on the high seas between, you know, places like libya and italy, which wasn't the case a couple of years ago. so i think the mood music is changing a little bit on how they patrol their external frontier. but we need to remember there's a huge number of migrants, asylum seekers already in the eu who'd very much like to come here. what i haven't seen is a real deterrent. the only real change we've seen from this government
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is the abolition of the rwanda scheme, which would have said to people, look, i'm sorry, we're not going to consider your asylum application or your human rights application in this country. you can go to rwanda for that. i thought that was a really bold attempt by the last government, although they never got anywhere with it because of continual legal challenges over a great many years to thwart it. i thought that was the boldest attempt since australia to try and set up an interdiction policy, which would have been a deterrent and would have made people, perhaps, who are already in a safe country, think twice about making that perilous journey. >> okay. that was tony smith, the former head of the uk border force, giving his assessment of where we are now. i don't want to depress everyone. it is new year's eve, but of course we need to look ahead to 2025 as well as reflect upon this year. and i think this is one of, if not the key issues that this country faces not only illegal migration, but of course legal migration, but of course legal migration numbers as well. so i'm delighted to say i'm joined by the chairman of migration. watch out, mehmet, as well as my panel as well journalist and
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broadcaster linda jubilee and speaker and social commentator adrian hayes. thank you very much indeed. and a happy new year's eve to you all. alp hard to know where to start, but would you agree with what tony smith had to say there? that there are some things that might help a little bit that labour want to do, but fundamentally there isn't a deterrent there? >> absolutely. i am tony smith and i have been actually saying this for quite singing from the same hymn sheet. we were immigration officers together 50 years ago, and there's not very much difference. >> not 50 years ago. >> not 50 years ago. >> absolutely. and i'm older than him. that that aside, look, there's as much chance of keir starmer yvette cooper smashing the gangs as there is of keir starmer walking barefoot across the channel. it just isn't going to happen. and the problem is that they there they were during the election campaign, you know, pretending to be coming in as
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batman and robin and it turns out that they're little more than laurel and hardy. they are just not going to do anything about it. and, you know, we laugh. but the problem is that we're going to get another 35, 40, perhaps 50,000 coming across next year because there's so much money in it and there's thousand. well, you know, who knows. you never quite know. it depends on the weather. it depends on the weather. it depends on. but we could do , depends on. but we could do, which means over 200,000 people coming in illegally across the channel since it all started in 2018, when sadiq sajid javid almost said it. khan. but even sajid javid declared an emergency. well, frankly, had he acted decisively then, had the government acted decisively, then we wouldn't have the problems that we do now. as it
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is, i think that the government at the moment is clueless about how to stop it, and it's just going to continue. >> i mean, fundamentally, it's one of the issues and we've seen this with this sort of botched chagos island deal that's been going on at the moment that that keir starmer is, you know, as his position as a lawyer, human rights lawyer and director of pubuc rights lawyer and director of public prosecutions and all of that. he's more concerned with international legal obligations and the like and looking good on the international stage and actually dealing with this issue, which is a very domestic issue, which is a very domestic issue, and it requires tough decisions that may not please everyone outside of the united kingdom. >> yeah, yeah. no, absolutely. what we need is really some firm hard action on those who are coming in. there's no question that those who arrive illegally should not be considered for asylum. they should be removed at the first opportunity. i think it's impractical, frankly, to start sending frigates into the channel to interdict as as
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they say. however, i think i see no reason why we shouldn't direct the removal, and it's easy enough to do on on the ferries and send them back to france. if france wants to send them back. >> but it's all of our international legal obligations, isn't it getting in the way of this? i mean, adrian, perhaps i'm wrong, and perhaps, you know, it is our duty to commit ourselves to everything that the international community says we must do and what the courts say, etc. we are in within international law rights to send illegal immigrants back to the country they came from. >> but this this problem could be solved within weeks when it's afghanistan, because you've got the taliban apart from when, you know, potentially pakistan as well. this problem could be solved within weeks. emily and al fayed alp, it takes quite something called a leader. leadership is something called courage, conviction and competence. keir starmer and emmanuel macron work with the french. i used to be in the military, the military. france and britain work very close together. we could stop these
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boats, turn the boats back, but work with the french. the australians did it. the belgians have done it. the it would stop within weeks. >> it's going to take them back. >> it's going to take them back. >> no, no but no, but hold on, hold on. but you don't let french pay for it. because these asylum seekers, which are turned back because they will they will not pay 5 to £7000. so these the, the gangs who are smuggling overin the, the gangs who are smuggling over in fact hopefully they lynch them, but you send them back and then you dispose of them the gangmasters. but you, you dispose of the of the asylum seekers, legal immigrants throughout europe. and so france doesn't suffer. it requires international cooperation. france and britain stop the boats. once you turn it back, they will not be flocking to calais to get across the channel when they know there's a good chance of coming back, right. >> well, i don't suppose we're going to be lynching anyone, linda. but would you agree? you know, on the whole, that something needs to be done with the french? or is that a lost cause? >>i cause? >> i don't i don't think it's ever a lost cause to enter into a negotiation. that's fine. and that maybe that should be happening. but let me tell you a story, because i do some media
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training as well. and a couple of years ago, i did the media training for the ceo of a bulgarian mining company. oh yeah. and he said, look, we don't have a problem with any asylum seekers. they come into our country and they just march straight through and out the other end because they know they can't stay here and they're on the way to you because they know they will get a soft landing with you. now that is what happens. and for a brief period of time after the fall of kabul, i worked with afghan women evacuees, not refugees or asylum seekers. in terms of the women's empowerment program that i ran for a brief period of time. but inevitably, i met asylum seekers inside asylum hotels. and that's very unusual for a journalist. and i can tell you what they do, where they hear about a deterrent, because it has to be a really strong deterrent, is they price that in to the risk calculation they do about getting from where they come from to here, and they bear in mind what they've been through when they leave afghanistan or syria. that's just one more
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risk. so i do believe in a deterrent, but it has to be a really powerful, hard deterrent. i think that would work. but the question is, what is it? >> alp last word. what is it? >> alp last word. what is it? >> well, you detain people, you deal with them quickly and then remove them, preferably to a safe country like. but what about human rights? what about their human rights? what about their human rights? what about the human rights of the people in this country? what about this is the problem is the people in this country paying for it, the costs are going to grow and grow and they're already massive. we've got to do something about it. it's unfair, it's costly. and the british people in their entirety, i would say stop it. >> but, you know, as soon as there's a deportation flight, what happens? it gets grounded. change the law. >> the law, change the law, introduce the appropriate laws, do away with the human rights act. that's what we need to do.
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we need to change the legal framework that allows us to remove people who are coming here, forcing their way into the country with no real proper claim for asylum. >> so bold legal change, essentially, and courage and some courage and backbone. so there you go. there's the wish for 2025. and thank you, alb. and to my panel, adrian and linda. now remember, you can join gb news for the ultimate countdown to 2025. yes, patrick, bev, darren, ben and i will all be together for a very special show gb news new years live from 10:00 to night. you don't want to miss it. we've got a lot lined up. it's going to be a lot of fun, so do stick with us into the night. but in a moment we'll be hearing from the reform party london assembly member who has lambasted the decision tonight. the mayor of london, sadiq khan. with us.
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okay. welcome back to gbn tonight with me, emily carver and a very happy new year's eve to you at home. now, fury today has erupted after london mayor sadiq khan was knighted in the king's new year's honours list. now sir keir starmer has been accused of rewarding failure because, among other things, knife crime has increased in the capital city by 50% since sadiq khan took office in 2016. now, the london mayor has also been responsible for rolling out the controversial ulez scheme in greater london, which a lot of people say is hitting the poorest workers the hardest. and why exactly does sadiq khan, who often talks about decolonising things? he likes to change street names if they're if they're not deemed politically correct? he wants to decolonise our statues and everything like this. why does he want to accept such an award? but let's speak to the reform london assembly
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member alex wilson, who criticised the decision, calling it yet another kick in the teeth to hard working londoners. he joins me now. alex wilson, a very happy new year's eve to you.so very happy new year's eve to you. so tell me what's what's your issue with sadiq khan getting this wrong then? >> well, when i first heard the rumour a few weeks ago and then obviously it was confirmed last night, my first reaction was a bit of shock because i think it's a very clear example of the honour system being used to reward failure. and you look at sadiq khan's record as mayor, and we have a city that is less safe to walk our streets in. we have a city that is more congested and harder to get around, and we have a city in which it is harder than ever to get on the housing ladder. and so to reward that record of failure with a knighthood, i think is utterly wrong. it's not surprising, though. it's a clear example of the political class and in particular, keir starmer looking after themselves. and starmer has a very clear incentive for creating a precedent for rewarding failure, because, let's face it, he's on exactly the same path. but what
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did surprise me was that, you know, following this, this story over the last 24 hours, none of the conservative assembly members on the london assembly have come out to criticise this. it's quite remarkable. i've gone through all their social media. i've been searching not a peep out of them. so i can only assume from that that they're quite happy for this to go ahead. which, yeah, that's the thing that surprised me. >> that's interesting. i imagine susan hall, for one, would have something to say about this. the tory candidate for the mayor of london, of course. but what's interesting to me, i should push back a little. alex on. he has been voted in three times. he's won three elections. fair and square in the capital city. is that worth a knighthood alone? >> no. i think winning elections and being elected to serve our constituents and our country and our capital city, that in itself should be the honour, not some kind of gong that is dished out like confetti to, you know, by people like keir starmer who want to reward his own, you know, acolytes. it's not right.
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it's a totally inappropriate use of the system. the honour system should be there to reflect people working hard in their communities, you know, charity workers, volunteers, activists doing really good, you know, kind of unsung hero kind of work. not just a reward for doing your day job and for doing it extremely badly. as has been the case with this example. >> and, alex, i think a good question too is why he's accepting it, why he's not handedit accepting it, why he's not handed it back. we know sadiq khan talks a lot about decolonising things and he's not not a great fan of the british empire and its legacy, i would say. but he's agreed to become a knight of the order of the british empire here. >> well, that's that's something you'd have to ask him. i can't speak for him, obviously, but no, you're right, we have. and not just with sadiq, but a labour establishment generally that's become increasingly woke and very critical of some of our british traditions. and yet when it suits them to take advantage of them, you know, the boot's on the other foot. the hypocrisy is there for all to see. >> well, alex wilson, thank you very much indeed. i hope you have a wonderful new year's eve
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