liverpool crown court. >> and we are now joined by gb news home security editor mark white to tell us more. mark, you're in liverpool for us. please give us any updates that you have. >> well, very dramatic scenes. it appears from inside the courtroom at liverpool crown court as us axel rudakubana has agreed to go up to the dock, was sitting in the dock, but we're now hearing from our colleague inside the court that he is screaming in that dock, screaming in that dock, screaming that he is unwell, that he needs a paramedic. the defence apparently has said that he hasn't eaten for a number of days and he's hardly drunk anything. this, according to his defence. so he's also apparently, according to sophie reapen apparently, according to sophie reaper, my colleague, saying that his chest is hurting. the judge has told the prosecution

to continue, but axel rudakubana is continuing. it seems to shout so, as we feared, you know he can be brought to the dock, but he can be very disruptive to the process and it appears that is exactly what he's doing. now. if this disruption continues at the level it seems to be at, with him screaming that he is unwell, then it may be that the judge has to decide that for the sort of the continuance of the sentencing process itself, that he is to be removed from the dock. no confirmation that that will happen. he may calm down of his own volition, but at the moment he is continuing. it seems to be very disruptive in the dock itself, and some key information as the prosecution sets out the case that they would have put before liverpool crown court had this gone to a

full trial, had axel rudakubana not pleaded guilty, as he did on monday, there , that case would monday, there, that case would have been presented to the jury. now we're getting it in summary form and the prosecutor setting out the case said that after his arrest, axel rudakubana would not speak to investigators, would not cooperate. he's not being cooperative at all throughout this process. but in the custody suite, he was caught on audio. apparently muttering that he was satisfied, that he was glad that the girls had been killed and that he set out to achieve what he wanted to achieve. so absolutely horrific news, of course, for the families to have to listen to that. just getting some more information from court, right.7

we're now being told that he's been sent out and alice da silva, aguiar's father, has called him a coward. inside court. understandable that he would feel that way towards this man who carried out these horrific stabbings, killing his nine year old daughter, alice. alice's father shouting towards axel rudakubana that he is a coward as he's taken away from the dock and the proceedings now are continuing without him. they will continue, of course, now much more smoothly, and the prosecution will be able to summarise the case that they would have put in full towards a full trial. >> an apt word. what an apt word from the father of one of those murdered girls. that this is a coward that was in the dock

screaming that he needs medical attention, that he needs a paramedic clearly trying to avoid listening to the horrors that he wrought on the people of southport. what a snivelling little wretch. i mean, it is hard to imagine what those families are going through right now in court, seeing the attention seeking, cowardly and inhuman behaviour that this creature is performing. >> yeah, i mean, of course it's this was never going to be easy for the families of the three young girls who were murdered by this man and the others who were stabbed, including, of course, those two adults. it was never going to be an easy process. it was always going to be horrifying and traumatic. but to see this man acting out in the way that he has been inside the

dock, you can only well, you can't even begin to imagine just how that makes the family feel. and clearly, the father of alice da silva aguia deciding that, you know, she has to shout out and shout to this man as he's being taken away from the dock, back down to the cells, that he is a coward. he clearly was intent in not engaging as he has done throughout this case, refused to engage with that legal process, not speaking initially to investigators, not even confirming the most basic of facts in his various court appearances of his name, his address, his date of birth, sitting in the dock with usually a jumper obscuring his face , a jumper obscuring his face, pulled up over his face and just not engaging with that process. that's why it was such a

surprise. of course, on monday, when he said that he was going to, you know, plead guilty. and of course, then did plead guilty to the 16 counts that he is facing. but i think it's worth, tom, just reiterating what we have heard this morning, what we can tell you about what has happened here. he was brought axel rudakubana to court at about 1030 this morning. he had been admitted to hospital in the early hours of this morning, had been held in a local prison in the area, awaiting what was expected, of course, to be this eight week trial and now just a sentencing process taken to hospital for what we're told is treatment for unspecified reasons. the detail of that has not been revealed at this stage, although we did get a little from the defence counsel about

issues that he says his client has faced, the fact that he has not been eating for a number of days, that he's not been drinking. he was apparently in the dock, eventually persuaded to come up to the dock after initially refusing to go up to the dock, and that resulted in an almost half hour delay in the proceedings. he was shouting in the dock that he was unwell, that he had chest pains, that he needed a paramedic, and eventually continuing to be so disruptive and interrupting the prosecutor as he summarised the case against him, that the judge decided that it was in the best interests of the smooth running of justice for this man to be taken back down into the cells and for the hearing, the sentencing hearing to continue without him. >> so the sentence hearing will continue without him, as you say. is there any chance that

they might force him back up or try to force him back up for the actual sentencing? when that comes? >> i've just got another piece, an updated piece of breaking news. this is coming from merseyside police, who are disputing the reports of axel rudakubana being taken to hospital. now we're reporting what the press association had reported. this was a line that the press association had put out about him receiving treatment in hospital. now, merseyside police have said so we're imparting this. we have seen reporting that axel rudakubana attended hospital for treatment this morning. this, they say, is incorrect. so that is correction to the record. clearly he was not taken to hospital. whatever issues he might have had medically. according to the police, he was not taken to hospital. it's possible that he was seen by a

doctor or treated within the prison environment. we don't know the details of that, but clearly we did hear from the defence barrister in court. there were issues about his health because the likes of the fact that he has not been eating or drinking and indeed him himself in the court the first time, really, that we've heard from this man since he carried out these horrific murders, that he was not feeling well, that he was suffering chest pains. >> this is, of course, highly distressing for people to hear, but it does give an insight, i suppose, into the mind of this man. what do you think he's trying to achieve here? not eating for days, delaying his appearance in court and then screaming and shouting as well. mark, as that comment that you said that that was made to

police a little earlier where he said, i'm glad they're dead. talking about those girls. i mean, is he trying to put on a show? is this is this normal for murderers in the in the many court appearances that you've attended? >> sometimes, sadly, it is the case that those who are in the dock can be disruptive. i have to say, in the vast majority of cases, offenders convicted or appearing of course, in court before being convicted tend to behave themselves because clearly they want to receive a not guilty verdict. so being disruptive in court is going to count against them. of course, in the eyes of a jury. but all bets are in th