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>> but closer to home, i reveal shocking footage of yet another broad daylight knife attack. plus. reform surge ahead in the polls, which is hardly a surprise when you see the state of the labour chancellor. >> why did. >> why did. >> you say it was a decade? >> you say it was a decade? >> well, i think you're taking. i think it's one. >> of his former tory mp, anna firth, lord shaun bailey, an ex labour party adviser. matthew laza. oh, and find out why we should be worried about that happening now. asteroid? well, apparently it could all be game over soon. get ready britain, here we go. is it a death sentence to criticise islam in britain?
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next? >> patrick. thank you and good evening. the top stories channel migrants who put lives at risk will face up to five years in jail under a new border security bill. home secretary yvette cooper has outlined plans to make endangering another life dunng make endangering another life during a sea crossing to the uk a new offence. she also announced that people selling and handling boat parts suspected of being used in migrant channel crossings could face up to 14 years in prison under new laws trying to crack down on people smugglers. so far this year, more than a thousand migrants have crossed the engush migrants have crossed the english channel. gb news political editor christopher hope, sat down with the home secretary. >> just keep doing more of the gimmicks. it's got to be this really serious law enforcement, and we've got to treat the border security in the same way that we treat issues of security against against terror threats. and that's why we're introducing
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counter—terror style powers to give law enforcement much stronger powers , to act early in stronger powers, to act early in the same way that they could around terrorism cases, because that's a sign of really the seriousness of this. if we are going to strengthen border security and prevent lives being lost, we have to have stronger law enforcement powers to go after the dangerous gangs. >> in other news, president donald trump says the cause of last night's washington, dc crash between a plane and a military helicopter is still being investigated. and he says our hearts are shattered. authorities in washington say they don't expect to find any survivors after the collision. more than 300 emergency responders are searching, still searching for survivors. 64 people, including crew, were on that american airlines flight and three soldiers were on the black hawk helicopter. at least 28 bodies have already been recovered. helicopter was on a training flight when the crash happened just before 9 pm. local time. >> our hearts are shattered
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alongside yours. and our prayers are with you now and in the days to come. we'll be working very, very diligently in the days to come. we're here for you to wipe away the tears and to offer you our devotion, our love and our support. his great support. in moments like this, the differences between americans fade to nothing compared to the bonds of affection and loyalty that unite us all, both as americans and even as nations. we are one family and today we are all heartbroken. we're all searching for answers. >> and finally, retail crime is now at an all time high, with more than 2000 incidents reported a day last year. more than 70 incidents alone included use of a weapon, with double reported in the previous year. thefts have reached 20 million incidents per year, costing retailers £2.2 billion annually. those are the headlines for now. it's back to patrick. >> for the very latest gb news
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direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com/alerts. >> good evening. it seems like you get a death sentence in the western world. if you dare to criticise aspects of the islamic faith in sweden. this man who admittedly took things to the absolute extreme in a bid to make his feelings known, regularly burnt copies of the quran. >> in. peta. >> in. peta. >> last night he was shot dead in his apartment. now, i don't condone setting fire to copies of the quran, and i absolutely see how that could cause anger. but just think about this. if somebody set fire to a copy of
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the bible or the torah, would they be shot dead in their own home? i suspect not. in france, teacher samuel paty was falsely accused of showing obscene pictures of the prophet mohammed to schoolchildren. that was a lie. a girl who wasn't even in his class at the time made it up. he was beheaded in the street by an islamist. before that, we had charlie hebdo, didn't we? they ran a cartoon of the prophet mohammed on their front cover. then this happened. >> mohammed. mohammed. labuschagne. mohammed. nicola bulley. wahaca. come on. this quy- >> 12 people were killed because of that front cover. we all know about the batley grammar school incident, where a teacher remains in police hiding with his family after allegedly showing a picture of the prophet to some kids. and people gathered outside the school gates calling for his blood. there was a mob outside that
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school four days. >> after the incident from monday 22nd of march, must also be investigated from a criminal perspective. yes, given that it was a clear attempt to stir up religious hatred. we also use this opportunity to call upon the entire british muslim community to review the materials being taught in their children's schools. >> now, i do wonder if a teacher had said something that jewish or christian students found offensive, or made a joke about one of the hindu gods, whether they'd have received death threats and been forced into hiding for the rest of their lives. and then there was the autistic child who accidentally scuffed a copy of the quran at school. he also received death threats, and his mum had to go to the local islamic centre and beg for forgiveness. >> have had to call the police. he has received death threats. he has received death threats. he has received threats that he will be beaten up if he goes back to school. he's absolutely petrified. but i don't want anybody to be prosecuted.
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>> yet again, i'll ask if a copy of the bible had been scuffed, would we have seen the parents of a hypothetical muslim child forced into a church to beg for their child's life? i doubt it. it does appear to be a potential death sentence. if you do something, even accidentally, that offends certain elements of the muslim community. i wonder whether that's why this is allowed. or even why this is allowed. >> de1. zara aleena . moideen. >> de1. zara aleena. moideen. arbel. giorgia meloni. la. ten hag. obe. namo . alicia kearns. hag. obe. namo. alicia kearns. datchet. nana. george iv. >> but this is not allowed. a christian woman praying silently in her own head outside an
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abortion clinic. >> is you standing here part of the protest? no. are you? are you praying? i might be praying in my head. so i'll ask you once more. will you voluntarily come with us now to the police station for me to ask you some questions about today and other days where there are allegations that you've broken public spaces. protection. if i've got a choice, then no. >> i wonder if that fear of being put on some kind of hit list is why police seem to bend over backwards to please some aspects of the muslim community. >> salam alaikum. there is one tier of policing that applies to all of us, and that means that we police without fear or favour. chakram. >> would police ever ask for permission from the elders to address a christian audience, as indeed another police officer did at that time as well? again, i doubt it. and if a group of jewish people attacked a police station, or even, let's just say, a group of football fans, would you not expect the police
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to come out and deal with them with force? well, over to rochdale now. >> we saw you. we know you're in there. come out. explain yourself. why has only one officer been suspended? what about the rest of them? >> i don't think the particular community in that clip got in much trouble. why not? look, i don't think anyone should go out and set fire to a copy of the quran or needlessly offend muslims or be islamophobic. but what i am saying is there appears to be only one religion in europe where you might be shot, stabbed or beheaded if you cause offence to some of its followers. let's go to my panel this evening. we've got a former tory mp, anna firth. we've got lord bailey and we have also got ex labour party adviser matthew laws. anna, i'll start with you on this. do you think that basically we now have a situation possibly have had for some while where if you do offend aspects of the islamic community, it's a death sentence? >> well. >> well. >> i obviously do think that. because sir david amess, who i
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succeeded. he was actually butchered by an islamic extremist. not because he offended the islamic religion, because of how he voted against. syria and the extremists who murdered him, said that he had listened to the rantings of abu mohammad al—julani, the syrian isis leader who had made speech after speech. and that was the first time that that followers of, of, of the, of islam were actually instructed in his first speech to go and kill non—muslims in non—muslim countries. so, yes, we absolutely do have a problem. and we've discussed many times the prevent programme and shawcross's review, which has pointed out that 67% of terror incidents from 2018 to today were due to islamic extremism, and it occupies three quarters of m15's workload. so yes, of course, we've got we've got an issue and we need to its
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integration. we have got to deal with this. >> again, i will stress, i have, believe it or not, everybody, i have absolutely no desire whatsoever to go out and set fire to a copy of the quran. that man did okay. and i can understand why that's inflammatory. however, he did get shot to death for it, and it does appear as though that is a kind of reaction that seems to be happening quite a bit, whether you're beheaded or or whatever. if you offend islam, whatever. if you offend islam, what do you make of that, sean? look, i'm a card carrying christian, so the idea of burning the bible to me is very offensive. but what what. >> needs to be looked at here is what reaction does it cause and what reaction does it cause and what is that community asked to do in response? and what do the police do in response? one of the things that's beginning to generate community tension is the idea that certain people get deau the idea that certain people get dealt with in different ways. that's where the authorities have to step up and make sure that everybody is dealt with the same. what's happened is sweden, of course, is illegal. it was illegal before and it will remain illegal. but now it's how it's dealt with. but here in this country, the authorities have to really be able to put their hand on their heart and say, actually, we don't deal
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with people differently because they're from a different religion. because when you looked at the marches we had in london, that caused great consternation in many other communities because it looked like there wasn't a fair hand being. and that's the question we need to answer here. >> do you think there's an aspect of fear that grips our political institutions, our police force, maybe our education system as well? matthew, when it comes to, you know, basically in this country, you can say or do what you like when it comes to other religions. but if you criticise islam, it is a death sentence. >> well, i think. >> well, i think. >> there has. >> there has. >> been historically i think. >> been historically i think. >> that the left didn't cover itself. >> in glory in the late 80s with the satanic verses affair, when. >> salman. >> salman. >> rushdie's book was being. >> rushdie's book was being. >> burnt on the streets of bradford and sort of. >> left liberal apologists for that. >> at the time. >> at the time. >> were pretty disgraceful. >> were pretty disgraceful. >> i think they have obviously been. >> isolated examples of. >> isolated examples of. >> that since. >> that since. >> but i think that i think actually. >> partly because of the things we talked about on this sofa just. >> last week about the. >> last week about the. >> grooming. >> grooming. >> gangs, etc. >> gangs, etc. >> i think. >> i think. >> that people have now said that we must be. >> honest about what's. >> honest about what's. >> happening in communities,
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wherever the community is, and we shouldn't pander to any community. but by showing respect. >> for all communities. >> for all communities. >> the shame is it took so long and we've had so many terrible incidences to get to this point, and i really want to reflect on the police's behaviour and politicians behaviour. certain politicians behaviour. certain politicians behave that way because they don't want to lose the vote, other politicians because they don't want to create community tensions. where the police officer in london, who was in a chris kaba case, who was in a chris kaba case, who was in a chris kaba case, who was investigated in a very particular way, in an extraordinary way, because it might cause community tension. thatis might cause community tension. that is not the way to deal with something. and we have a legal system and we need to follow. >> those rules. absolutely. >> those rules. absolutely. >> do you think, do you think you should be able to burn a copy of the quran? do you think it's something that should be allowed to happen, or is it a crime? should it be a crime? what do. >> you think? >> you think? >> look, look, i believe in freedom of expression. you know, it's a it's a basic human, right? we live by that in this country. i would not burn a copy of the quran, but if someone were to burn a copy. i am a christian as well. but if someone were to burn a copy of the bible, i would consider that to be deeply disrespectful.
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extremely rude. i would not want anyone, but i would not expect. it's not even that wouldn't even be an offence. >> in my opinion. here's the thing. here's the thing that wouldn't cross most muslims by the vast, vast majority of muslim people wouldn't jump out of their house and come and murder you, or even or even come and shout at you over it. but but some would, and more than in most communities. the important thing here, though, even as a card carrying christian, i don't believe it should be illegal to burn a quran or a bible or a torah, or a humanist book for that matter, because it would lead to a blasphemy law, and that would put us in a far bigger problem. >> we don't we don't have blasphemy laws in this country, and i think that's for a reason. but we're missing the point here. there's no other religion that consistently leads to these violent attacks. >> is that fair, matthew? >> is that fair, matthew? >> well, i think clearly partly because of geopolitical issues which have involved the middle east and. >> muslim areas. >> muslim areas. >> of the world more. >> of the world more. >> than others. >> than others. >> i think we have seen particular sort of tensions. >> and anger. >> and anger. >> within the muslim community, frankly, over a period that stretches back. >> to the iraq. >> to the iraq. >> war 20 odd years ago. i tell you what, i do think just
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watching the footage that we saw earlier is i do. whoever the community leaders are, i hate that phrase. community leaders. and what you see is not the police talking to. >> ordinary muslims, but sort of doing a. >> little video to keep people who are on their community relations committee happy. >> and i don't like. >> and i don't like. >> that at all. and we shouldn't be having that. the police need to just just step back and police us all, not community leaders. >> there are no community leaders. they're all they're. >> all self—appointed. absolutely. >> and they're always the most militant. and that's the problem if you if you if you pander to the militant, they become more militant, not less. >> the thing. >> the thing. >> is, it's. »- >> is, it's. >> not just community leaders. what about abu hamza? what about anjan choudhury? you know, the hate clerics that we have had. unfortunately, we've got rid of them. why are they all come from this religion? >> the thing is, i'll put this to you, matthew. i think it's becoming increasingly obvious these days when you see stories like that and you just do a compare and contrast, don't you? the autistic child who scuffed a copy of the quran at school and his mum is, you know, there in the local islamic centre, basically saying, look, he's had death threats. please don't, please don't let any harm come
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to him. but i don't want anyone prosecuted for anything they might have said in the meantime. and you just have to flip that on its head. if he'd gone into school and done something, pred school and done something, ripped a page out of the bible or whatever, there's no way in a million years that that ends up in. >> a church. i think it's the walking. it's the walking on eggshells, isn't it? and i don't think i don't think any good comes of walking on eggshells or talking to community leaders. >> they're rather. >> they're rather. >> in the same bracket. and i think that people need to relax. they need to. realise that if people are from a particularly if they if they're if they're angry about something and what they're saying is out of order just because they're from a, from one community, they shouldn't be excused. >> i think i think it's what we do about it is actually the police and politicians and the press grow a pair and take people on because what happens is, again, i go back to my point. if you keep appeasing people, i mean, we should have learnt this with the whole second world war situation. you keep appeasing people, they keep pushing, you give them an inch, they take a mile and we are in that. we are in that situation. and police officers now, senior police officers, not a beat
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officer. right. could they really put their hand on their heart and say, well we dealt with that the same, even though even though it was a particular religion. >> they're terrified. and terrified of stuff. >> like that. >> like that. >> and then they end up doing silly things as they're walking on eggshells. >> perfect example. patrick, you mentioned it in your in your opening the batley grammar school. now imagine if a teacher had put a cartoon of jesus christ. we've had we've had those sorts of. >> lie—in anyone? >> lie—in anyone? >> yes, exactly. >> yes, exactly. >> i saw that. i watched that in school. i watched the life of bnanin school. i watched the life of brian in school. >> now i remember life of brian shows, and i remember my mother not being at all happy about me seeing that, because at that stage it was considered to be quite offensive. it was pushing the envelope. but but we're we accept that because we're a tolerant country. we should have the same rules for everybody. if you put a if you put a that that teacher should not have been hounded out of that school, he should not have been. >> having technically, technically we do. this is this is the point. technically, we do have the same rules for everybody. let's be clear about that. what we don't have is the same culture. when we deal with people, we have a. >> culture because of
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nervousness. >> and that's what needs to go. like, even if you talk about people smuggling, they've made some new rules about boat pieces. >> we'll talk about that. >> we'll talk about that. >> that's not the issue. the issue is enforcing the laws we already have. >> all right. well look good. i do quite enjoy actually when it's more it's more of a discussion than anything. but we'll have plenty of opportunities. i'm catastrophic at. there we go anyway. right? i've got loads more coming your way. we have unearthed the fact that there is a pride event now where three year olds are being taken to, so we're gonna have a long discussion about that. but before that time is running out and your chance to become our biggest ever giveaway winner £50,000 in tax free cash. don't miss out. >> lines close tomorrow on your chance to win our biggest cash prize so far. £50,000 in tax free cash. how would you react if you won? >> it's such a nice feeling. >> it's such a nice feeling. >> just go for it. it's one text and if i can win, anyone can win. i was on cloud nine. i'd say don't hesitate. >> do it for another chance to win £50,000. cash. text cash to 632321. entry cost £2 plus one
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for those benefits. but first, is it inappropriate to take kids as young as three to a mini pride event? it's time now for the head to head. the storyhouse theatre in chester has sparked outrage after advertising mini pride, arts and crafts and storytime sessions from performances by drag queens for children as young as three years old. >> exciting day out for the family at mini pride from storytimes. shh! sorry. ooh! to face painting to family. fun for everyone. >> the sessions are run by the lgbt charity curious arts, whose facebook shows very young children making posters displaying messages such as pansexual princess, bisexual body and curious liberation. it's not just chester, though.
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drag queen story time sessions are being run across the uk, for example, at this family friendly extravaganza in colchester in 2023, which drag queen and naama read a story to children despite allegedly being a recipient of an online fetish appreciation award. so is it appropriate to take kids as young as three to a mini gay pride event? going head to head on this are the co—hosts of the bombshells podcast, fleur mish and the social commentator amy ansell. great to have you on the show, both of you. thank you very much. fleur. i'll start with you. do you think it's acceptable to take a three year old to what is essentially a mini gay pride event? >> no, i. >> no, i. >> do not think this is appropriate at all. if we think about what pride is, it is being proud of your sexuality and your who you're sexually attracted to. 3 to 7 year olds are not sexually attracted to anyone. and if you look at what the relationship and sex education guidelines are, you shouldn't even be learning about puberty until you're eight years old. and sex education, you know, in
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context of science, isn't taught until you're nine years old. so why are 3 to 7 year olds outside of a, you know, a strict school context being taught this by people who, you know may not even be dbs checked? i searched dbs on the website and i couldn't find any results, and the team is just listed as first names and pronouns. no surname. so any parent who wants to do their due diligence and find out who is going to be teaching their children about something which is of its nature sexual and can't find any information about that? you know, if i was a parent, i would be really alarmed about this. >> well, quite, i imagine, amy, why should three year olds be taught about their pronouns and what they want to do with their genitals by a drag queen? >> well, this. >> well, this. >> is. >> is. >> not about. >> not about. >> having sex. >> having sex. >> or. >> or. >> really educating. >> really educating. >> children about sex. >> children about sex. >> this is really about inclusion, diversity, being proud of who you are. and think about it. i mean, my son is
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eight years old. he has a friend who has two gay dads. i need to explain to him why that is. and so it's important for him to recognise that this is out in the world. and i know this mini pride might be geared to children 3 to 7, but ultimately it's all about educating them, opening their eyes to what's going to be in the world. you know, kids watch youtube, kids watch movies, even an animated films. these days, there's gay characters, there's trans characters. it's important for them to see it now so that as they get older, they're not shocked. they don't become homophobic. they don't. you know, they have to understand that this is the world we currently live in. so it's important the earlier we start, the better. and i hope it rolls out throughout the entire uk and onwards. >> wow, wow. bold line to finish with that i will just put it to you then. how would you come back to that argument that actually stuff like this is necessary so that children can learn about the fact that we
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