dinghies.7 net migration going up in 2023 to 1 million a year. there are so many people out there who feel literally betrayed. well, folks, i'm back and they won't get away with it. >> liberal democrats leader sir ed davey criticised the conservative brexit deal as an utter disaster for our country. >> lebanon is going to lead the debate in britain to have a closer relationship with our european colleagues. it's great for our trade, our economy, it's good for our defence and our security and a customs union, which i've called for the liberal democrats are championing would be great for growth, far better than anything the government has announced to date. we need to get rid of those trade barriers that the conservatives put up that are so hit. our small and medium sized businesses, our exporters. that's the way to grow our economy by having that closer relationship with europe. and the white house, says the recovery operation for the air collision in washington, dc has resumed, in which a passenger plane collided with a us army

helicopter yesterday, killing 67 people. 41 bodies have now been found. 28 of those victims have been identified. audio has emerged showing communication between the military helicopter and air traffic control before the deadly crash. in the clip, the deadly crash. in the clip, the helicopter is told of the proximity of the plane twice and acknowledges it, but it's not clear if the helicopter is responding to the wrong aircraft. posting on his truth social platform, us president donald trump said the blackhawk helicopter was flying too high. and those are the latest headlines. for now, it's over to headliners. >> for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts. by scanning the qr code, go to gbnews.com/alerts. >> hello and. >> hello and. >> welcome to headliners. this is your first.

>> look at tomorrow's top stories with three comedians. let's kick off with a look at some of the front pages the daily. mail leads with. andrew told epstein we'll play again soon. the express has. i will fight to honour the will of the people, and the times has. >> long term. >> long term. >> sick, facing crackdown on benefits and more front pages. >> to come. »- >> to come. >> in a second. but first, ben, what do you make of saturday's daily mail? >> well, prince. andrew told epstein will play. >> more soon. >> more soon. >> that's just i mean, at. this point. >> if you don't think prince andrew is a bit of a wrong'un, then i mean, what. >> more. >> more. >> do you need? >> do you need? >> i think. >> i think. >> if you're not convinced. by now, then you need. >> to be. >> to be. >> looked into. >> looked into. >> could a. >> could a. >> man golf? >> man golf? >> i'm here. >> i'm here. >> to offer balance. you've got to offer. >> broadcast balance. >> broadcast balance. >> and i think. >> and i think. >> i think he's a top. >> i think he's a top. >> top guy. >> top guy. >> yeah, you're right. >> yeah, you're right. >> out of context. it just sounds like an hr nightmare, doesn't it? >> but in the subject line it said re child abuse. >> it did. >> it did. >> not i pushed back. it did not. andrew can't. >> catch a break, can he? >> catch a break, can he? >> i just. >> i just. >> hope. >> hope. >> he doesn't do anything to himself like epstein did. you

know epstein? >> definitely 100%. >> definitely 100%. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> and that was definite. and so i'm very worried. >> why has this come to light now? >> why have we got fresh pressure? >> it's emerged. >> it's emerged. >> it's emerged. >> it's almost like someone's got something against him. and he's. >> like. >> like. >> i mean, what can anyone have against andrew? and they're like, let's see what we can do. the email. it's the whole thing of email, you know, emails. you send too many emails, you don't think it through. i get these emails and i'm like, she hasn't thought that through. i'm going to use that against her years later. and so that's the problem. the emails now come out. don't don't write anything down. no. >> that's the problem. i mean, if emails. >> from years. >> from years. >> ago come out then what. >> ago come out then what. >> can you do? luckily with me they'll just be like i've said it all on national tv. you need to check any archives. it's all there. >> that's your biggest problem with al, isn't it? that it'll be able to quickly go through your whole career and. >> find the worst thing. >> find the worst thing. >> you said? >> you said? >> by the way, do you know what's even more worrying than ai going through your whole career is candace owens. so there's a there's a story here, will ryan. nice guy reputation survive? his wife blake lively's toxic feud hits court, and it definitely won't survive because candace owens has latched on to it and she's been posting about

it and she's been posting about it all day. and she'll do like hours of podcasts. >> she gets a topic, doesn't she? >> she gets. >> she gets. >> it really runs. >> it really runs. >> it really runs. >> i met her at a party and i was so nice to her because if you're not, she will destroy you in hours and hours of footage. >> she probably. >> she probably. >> watches headliners. don't say that. >> well, i'm saying in a good way. she's tenacious. she's smart. smart cookie. >> agenda for her. nick dixon. >> agenda for her. nick dixon. >> there you go. >> there you go. >> okay, let's have a. >> okay, let's have a. >> look at the express. >> look at the express. >> nick. >> nick. >> happy to. it's. i will fight to honour the will of people. and that's kemi badenoch. she's leader of an increasingly irrelevant party called the tories. oh, sorry. we're not allowed to bash kemi on here because she doesn't like it. sorry, kemi. sorry. we all love kemi and she's written this piece and you know she's saying we want to honour brexit. she points out that keir starmer tried to block it 48 times. fair enough. you know he's not keen on it and she says he's going to get us back into the eu. red tape, fishing rights and freedom of movement suddenly will be the freedom of movement will be back. and she says look at the chagos islands. this is the guy we're going to have negotiating for. he likes to give away stuff. and i think that's a fairly compelling argument. the issue against kemi, of course,

issue against kemi, of course, is always that she was there the whole time. the tories weren't taking advantage of brexit, except to bring in the boris wave of waves and waves of useless immigration. some would say i wouldn't say something like that, but right wingers say things like that. and also today on twitter, she was getting a little bit of trouble with some friends of ben's because she said that the project of the united kingdom and some were pointing out, we're not a project, we're not america, we're not a propositional nation. >> friends of ben. yeah, i don't i don't really understand. >> his his right wing mates. >> his his right wing mates. >> oh yeah, i've got loads. yeah, yeah. >> they were kicking off. >> they were kicking off. >> their horrible yeah horrible horrible people. >> i don't condone anything they say. >> no i don't. >> no i don't. >> see the point of kemi. >> see the point of kemi. >> i really don't see. >> i really don't see. >> the. >> the. >> point of her. it's sort of at this point like well. >> no, she'll have another. >> no, she'll have another. >> meeting i don't care. kemi. >> meeting i don't care. kemi. >> come to me. >> look, it's pointless. >> look, it's pointless. >> no one's voting. >> no one's voting. >> tory, no one's. >> let's. >> let's. >> we just got to wait. >> we just got to wait. >> and wait and. >> and wait and. >> then hopefully we can get nige into the number 10. and then. we're laughing. but kemi. you know. >> no. >> no. >> you'll get the tories anyway because they'll do some sort of deal with reform. would you be

happy with that, ben? >> no, i wouldn't. >> no, i wouldn't. >> be happy. you wouldn't know. >> be happy. you wouldn't know. >> don't you think. >> don't you think. >> it's getting. >> it's getting. >> to a point now where people like kemi, it's like you've left. >> it quite late. >> it quite late. >> to jump. >> to jump. >> you know. >> you know. >> like. >> like. >> really, it's undignified. >> really, it's undignified. >> at. >> at. >> this point. yes, but they'll have to merge otherwise because labour and lib dems are going to vote tactically. you know how they do that. >> who's voting. >> who's voting. >> lib dems? i don't know who these lib dem voters are. >> i don't know actually either. no, they still exist. exist. >> they do exist. >> they do exist. >> they're people who really like theme parks because that's where ed davey's nearly. >> always is. >> always is. >> voters are lovely people. >> voters are lovely people. >> yeah, i'm sure they are. yeah. >> okay ruth langsford. >> okay ruth langsford. >> ruth langsford. >> ruth langsford. >> is looking. fantastic isn't she. on the front of the express. looking very glamorous. >> yes. good old ruth. i mean i'm team eamonn but i don't really know much. about them. so good. >> on her. you know divorce. >> on her. you know divorce. >> is painful. >> is painful. >> but my friends got me through. great. there you go. good stuff ruth. >> well done. do you mean your divorce? >> you're not my divorce. no. i'm very happily married. >> to ruth. got me through, and i was like, why is ben confessing that? >> no, no. ruth's friends. >> no, no. ruth's friends. >> oh. >> oh. >> ruth, i'm not one of them. but, ruth, if you're out there, i'm willing to be. >> out there. she's on the

papen >> yeah, but i could be friends with ruth. >> i think. >> i think. >> she's. >> she's. >> doing all right. let's have a look at saturday's. >> times, please. >> times, please. >> ben? yes? long term. >> ben? yes? long term. >> sick. >> sick. >> facing crackdown on benefits. >> facing crackdown on benefits. >> just going after people that have been sick for years and years and years claiming benefits, which. to be fair, i would say, oh, that's a good idea. if there wasn't a long line of things they could do before that. you know, let's stop having illegal migrants. let's stop giving them so much money, and then maybe we can come after the long term sick. but i'm. >> not sure i believe it. anyway, haven't we just heard this week that the caps been blasted? anyway, there was a limit on what we were going to have as benefits, and that's already been spent and we're not. >> going to stop. it's always the same, isn't it? well, we're going to put a cap on. benefits and it never happens. >> well, let's say it's going to be harder for people with mental health conditions. look, if you can't work with mental health conditions, i would never have a job. i think i'm an inspiration to the nation. you are go to work anyway. just do your best. it's going to be tricky because it's of course it's alienating part of labour's base even more. but now that starmer has been so cruel over the winter fuel

payments, i feel like he can take on that. he likes to be cruel, he likes to does tough decisions. now i'm going to take away benefits and fuel for old people. and so if you've done that, you've sort of broken the seal on cruelty. do you know what i mean? so now liz kendall is just going to cut benefits. she'd be like, look. >> you. >> you. >> look, you look like you can work to me. it'd be like leos. leos test of who's trans or not. you just have a look at them. >> like a man. >> like a man. >> to me. you could get to work. that's how. >> it's going to work. >> it's going to work. >> liz. kendall. just in a room, assessing millions of people. inefficient. but that's what they're going to do. >> nice. like an x factor type thing? >> yes. yeah, exactly. a panel of people. you you don't look ill. >> yeah. you didn't hobble enough. >> now get. >> now get. >> back to work. >> back to work. >> so brutal. okay, let's. >> so brutal. okay, let's. >> have a look at some more front pages. the mirror has. beeb has a wind warning. am i saying that right? >> win winning i don't, i don't follow it. >> telegraph trump. >> telegraph trump. >> kicks off trade war with china and the daily star has. orange man baby in goldmember. so the mirror. >> nick yeah i like the way he says don't follow it. don't follow the news. >> not the news strictly. >> not the news strictly. >> i know he's the.

>> i know he's the. >> guy. >> guy. >> i know he's put his. >> i know he's put his. >> hand on a woman's. >> hand on a woman's. >> waist and everyone's. >> waist and everyone's. >> very upset. >> very upset. >> it's celeb gossip. there's been a recording emerged and i'm very sympathetic because let's face it, we say a lot of stuff. sometimes stuff, ben says in the break is horrific and it gets recorded and they can use that against you. and this is the guy who did the strictly adverts. he used to play the character gio compario compario. i didn't know he was called that. i just thought he was the singing guy. i found out today and actually i think it's i don't know, i don't i don't want to speak too soon in case bad things come out, but i think it's probably quite harsh. the only thing i like about it, i was actually, i hate to sound like louis schaefer. i was in a gocompare advert when they went against this guy. they said, right, we've had enough of the singing guy. this is true. we'll put nick dixon in. and i acted very well, naturalistic acting, and we didn't have it. after that one advert, they said, okay, we're going back to the singing guy, but if they get rid of the singing guy, i'm back again. >> so you're going to sell us insurance? >> the question is, now with my brand, would they go back to nick nixon? >> good luck with that. >> good luck with that. >> with his current brand, it might be not a perfect merging. >> of i don't really know what

he's done. did he put his hand on someone's waist? >> no. i heard we don't defame anyone. i heard it was, wasn't it, about a recording that emerged? >> yes. i think he has said something as well. >> hang on. you put if you're dancing, you put people's hands, your hands on people's waist. yeah. there was. >> a clip of. >> a clip of. >> them, you know, when they. >> them, you know, when they. >> all. >> all. >> they stand together and he she sort of moves his hand as if to. >> say, get out. >> say, get out. >> of it. >> of it. >> oh, really? yeah. >> oh, really? yeah. >> but it's such a. >> but it's such a. >> it's such a fine line on the dancing show where you dance really close to people and everyone cheats on their partner. yeah, it's kind of like a fine line, isn't it? what are you supposed to do? i thought this was a cheating dance. >> that's not how. >> that's not how. >> it works, nick. everything's about consent. okay, let's have about consent. okay, let's have a look at the telegraph, please. >> ben. yes? trump kicks off trade war with china. this is trump with his tariffs. just i would to quote is it gen z. let him cook. trump can you know let's just see what he does. that's all good i like this idea about the tariffs i think it's a goodidea about the tariffs i think it's a good idea when people annoy you just up the tariffs keep upping those tariffs. and then people have to fall in line.

>> beautiful word joe. the most beautiful word tariffs. >> we love tariffs. >> we love tariffs. >> the funny thing is like it doesn't help us. he hasn't put one on us yet. the funny thing about it is it's so entertaining to watch as to be fair to aaron bastani, a leftie, but he pointed out it doesn't actually help us at all, you know, in the uk, but we're just enjoying watching it and wishing we could have it like a poor kid in some like dickensian story, looking at a window thinking, oh, if we could have that for christmas, but we just get a lump of coal again. but we're looking good. if we could have like nice policies, but tariffs. i don't even know if tariffs are good or not. i just enjoy him saying tariffs a lot. you know what i mean? i just like the fact that he's doing it and it's like tough. >> and it's a good idea. it makes sense. >> i like that he's going to he's proposing to get rid of income tax entirely. it's just such a radical idea. >> that is pretty radical. >> that is pretty radical. >> you said the richest period is when we did it was we get rid of it because it was beautiful income tax. i mean, why not? let's try it. >> yeah. give it a go. >> let's have a look at the star, please, nick. >> well, you say that it's a trumpy bullying by up with crackerjack plans and they're saying orange man baby again.

the star really needs a new insult. come on, star 2015 wants its insult back. orange man baby goldmember. they're calling trump. they're basically. what is happening in normal language is happening in normal language is that people are worried about inflationary pressures. they're worried that trump wants to cut interest rates, but the fed doesn't. so there's this instability in the markets. so what people tend to do with instability in my layman's analysis is buy gold. and so the gold and bullion is going up because people don't know what trump is up to. >> right? i don't know who this is for this headline trump he sparks bullion buy up with crackerjack plans. gold member who is it for. >> readers of the ft. it's for financial people. >> it's very strange, though, in that language. >> you could talk about evil mushrooms instead if. >> you want. oh. >> you want. oh. >> what are they doing? >> what are they doing? >> i mean, well, we don't know, but apparently all really, really evil. >> evil? >> evil? >> that's all the information. >> that's all the information. >> we've got. >> we've got. >> okay. >> okay. >> still to come, what's worth £450 million and has recently been lost by labour. and what is keir starmer going to spend an extra £100 million on? answers coming up, this is

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>> welcome back. >> welcome back. >> to. >> to. >> headliners, beginning. >> headliners, beginning. >> with saturday's daily mail and an update on what would have been a historic anonymity order. >> ben. yes, the daily mail judge, who handed custody of sara sharif to her father before he beat her to death, unmasked after mail victory. this was the first time in british legal history that a judge had been granted anonymity, and now it's all been revealed who she is and

what she stands for. and it's an odd one, this because it sort of makes her sound worse. the fact that there was this anonymity about it all and it's sort of just reading it sort of makes no sense why she was anonymous, but now it's been revealed who she is. it sounds. do you know what i mean? it sort of sounds worse than it actually is. >> well, this judge, judge raeside didn't ask. she didn't request to have her. >> no, no no, no, no. >> identity kept. >> identity kept. >> secret at all. and what comes out in this piece, i think, is. that that really she was following a team of people, wasn't she? there were social workers advising her, and it sounds like if she's if there are lots of people who were contributing. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> but being. >> but being. >> given back to her, this story sort of makes it seem that that she was the only one in the courtroom who listened to so the father and the stepmother sort of convinced everyone that it was the biological mother that was the biological mother that was causing all this abuse. and then the judge gave custody to then the judge gave custody to the father, who sadly killed

her. >> well, he didn't just kill her, did he? it was a horrific abuse. >> i'd say that was sadly killed. yeah. >> reading it again, i was it's almost makes me not want to do this job and you have to read. >> stuff like this. >> stuff like this. >> it's so horrific. and don't you think though, maybe i'm wrong. maybe it is, as you say, more complicated. but don't you think if you're a judge, you should be a betterjudge of character than to give someone back to this absolute monster? >> of course. but it's like it's what christine was saying. like she had all this information based on social workers and the case that had been going on. so, you know, i can't i can't say it's all her fault that she's standing there and going, well, this is my decision. and yeah, you can have custody. and then it's her fault that she she died. so it sounds. >> like there's a lot of social workers that that people might hold responsible. but on the wider topic, we don't we don't hide judges anonymity. that's a really important principle, isn't it? that's been upheld here. >> well, i actually don't want i mean, i don't want anything anyone to target the judge or anything, but i just the case is

so horrific. if it was me, i would think, i'm not sure i want to be a judge anymore after this because it's such a massive thing. whether it's her mistake solely whoever's to blame, it's solely whoever's to blame, it's so bad. the details are so disgusting. it'sjust i don't disgusting. it's just i don't think i could recover from that personally if i'd been responsible for that. that's just me. >> no previous. cases she gives. there are examples in here of where she she didn't give the child back to the parents. so it's i guess it's each case on its merits. but yeah, you're absolutely right. living with this will be horrendous independent now. and nick, i imagine you've got mixed feelings about this scrapped project. >> i see what you mean. it's fresh blow for rachel reeves as astrazeneca scraps £450 million investment in uk vaccine plans. so the mixed feelings are of course, because of course we want jobs for british people. but do we want jobs for questionable vaccines that my parents. >> safe and effective treatment. >> safe and effective treatment. >> some say, saved many lives? i always worry my parents took it and you know, they did get recalled, didn't they? the astrazeneca. yeah, i mean question marks. so i'm very worried about these vaccines.

but in general, in terms of investment in our country, rachel reeves has made an absolute pig's ear of it. it's the hike in national insurance contributions. then it's the rollout of employment rights, which sound good on in hippie world, but it just means endless people suing you because someone didn't buy someone a birthday cake. >> or something. >> or something. >> unless jobs ultimately. >> unless jobs ultimately. >> right, and restrictions on industrial action have been repealed i.e. constant strikes from labour's union mates. so no one wants to invest and she's trying to convince people, hey, we're great to invest in and everyone's going, no, but you aren't because. >> of all. >> of all. >> the stuff you just did. >> the stuff you just did. >> and what have i really amazing about this is that she's we've lost £450 million, having just heard a song and dance about going to china and getting 600 million. so it's that's not looking so clever now, is it? >> right. and it's ideological as well. why why do all these things you're all about growth, but then you're just looking out for your union mates and every worker complaint, and you've come up with national insurance, this national insurance contribution thing, which has been dubbed a jobs tax. so i don't understand it. astrazeneca

also citing the timing and reduction of the final offer. so i don't know. there may be citing something else, but whatever happens, it's fallen through. >> no, they're saying there was a bigger offer on the table and now it's gotten quite a lot smaller. it was 90 million to start with and we're now looking at 40 million. >> yeah, but for all the people who are going to tweet me, obviously i don't like the vaccine, which will definitely save lives, although i didn't take it and would never would. >> for me, it's two parties that i just don't trust in any way. so i'm like, well, it is what it is. i don't have much to say on this story, i'm afraid. >> oh yeah, astrazeneca versus laboun >> oh yeah, astrazeneca versus labour. like it's like godzilla. godzilla versus mothra. >> exactly, exactly. yeah, yeah. >> exactly, exactly. yeah, yeah. >> i get it. >> i get it. >> okay. >> okay. >> daily mail now, ben, our dear leader, has a shiny new plan to improve britain. what's he got up his sleeve? >> extra 100 million to be pumped into neighbourhood policing as starmer desperately tries to quell simmering unrest on britain's streets. i mean, he's causing a lot of it, but. so the government are going to put an extra 100 million into neighbourhood policing. but the

forces have warned that they don't have the police, they don't have the police, they don't have the numbers. so is it going to be more police on the streets that i don't know? if you've seen these videos and things of the sort of police that we've got on the streets at the moment, they're sort of four foot. >> tall, a policeman. but it wasn't they weren't a real policeman. >> oh, right. >> oh, right. >> okay. >> okay. >> all right. maybe it's oh, maybe it's that one. no, no, no, i've seen a few, but there's, there's a lot of policemen that they, they look very young. they're very small. they don't seem to be able to do the job. so yes, you could have all these police on the streets, but you need police that can actually do the job. >> the big tall ones are more expensive. >> tall ones are a lot more expensive. no, but but they can handle themselves. i mean, if, i mean, if any policeman came up to me, obviously i would bow down and, you know, kiss their feet and pray to them. but there's certain people where you need a strong force, otherwise you're just going to run riot. and then you can have ten police all trying to grab you to the ground. >> and we've all seen those

videos. i mean, my concern is 13,000 more police. sounds nice, but the police has to change ideologically and it has to be they have to have the right priorities and the right powers. so if it's 13,000 people kneeling to people with radical views that are against our values, then of course that's terrible. or 13 people ignoring gang rape and telling the children they're to blame. so these are some of the horrible things that have happened. so you have to fix the culture of the police, right? and you have to offer proper deterrence and give them actual powers they can use. i don't think any of this can happen under labour. if we get a proper government reform or something, maybe we could have a proper police. >> it just. >> it just. >> sounds like blaming individual officers who work very hard. >> no, no, of course not. no. >> many great people. >> many great people. >> it just sounds like that sort of classic ideology of, oh, the policeman walking the beat, you know, the bobby on the street. and we just don't live in that world anymore. >> i think that would be good. i'd like to see police on the beat. >> it would be good if. they if they do anything. yeah, if they do deterrent. but people have lost all fear because they can just shoplift. they can do anything. we live in a narco

tyranny. they can. but yeah, proper old fashioned bobbies on the beat with a big stick. >> oh, that'd be great. >> oh, that'd be great. >> who actually does something? >> who actually does something? >> and the hats. spring hats back. >> bring back the hats. >> bring back the hats. >> big hats and sticks. okay, moving to the telegraph. and the shadow home secretary has accused brits of laziness. has anyone bothered to argue with them, nick? >> good point. no. well, some have actually. but it's britain needs better work ethic, claims chris philp. it's always quite hard because i think it's going to be philip, don't you? but it isn't. anyway, this was on nick robinson's show political thinking. i've listened to the whole thing. it's quite a good show actually for the bbc. it's a podcast where it's a bit friendly but not totally so. i suppose it'll be like, you're a decent bloke, aren't you? but you're a bit horrible. i'll just stick that sticker like a horrible question in at the end. so this was towards the end of it. and he just said that in britain today he, he was asked if belief in hard work is something britain is missing. he says i do a bit. there are 9 million working age adults who are not working. and as we compete globally with countries like south korea, china, india, we need a work ethic. and i say fair enough. but i do have some caveats. one is that we have all sorts of people in social housing, many of them not really from this country. and you sort

of you can actually live in certain blocks and see them at home with a massive telly while you go off to work and you think i'm paying for them to stay at home. exactly. we've got a low trust society. we've got a government that hates british people. you can't buy a house and you've got ridiculously high taxes. we've got benefits, traps where it doesn't even pay to work. so i say it's great in theory to say that. but there are so many disincentives now in this country. >> i completely agree, yeah, sometimes it just does not. if you look at, oh, okay, i can go out and get a minimum wage job or i out and get a minimum wage job ori can out and get a minimum wage job or i can stay on benefits and actually get more money doing that. it's i mean, it's a no brainer. and of course, yeah. oh yeah, you should go out to work. and it's much better for your mental health to go out to work. but why would you, if you're going to get more, to sit at home and with your massive telly? >> yes. it's not always better for your mental health if you work with like lewis schaffer, but in many cases you're right. >> i think that's fair overall. okay. a story about power supply from the telegraph. next, the department for energy security and net zero did not immediately respond to requests for comment. perhaps their phones have run

out of battery. >> ben black out britain threat rises on collapse of norwegian government. so apparently is this. i read this as 4% but it's four pc. i don't know if that of the uk's power. yeah 4%. okay. 4% of the uk's power. it doesn't sound like a lot, but i guess it is quite a lot really coming from norway. and it's this idea of net zero but just getting power from elsewhere. so it's like just offsetting the carbon emissions. it just doesn't make any sense to me. like, yeah, we can get rid of all our carbon emissions. but if you're just giving it to another country, we're all in the same world. we're on the same earth. so to me, it makes no sense to do that. however, i would like some blackouts, which i don't hate. theidea blackouts, which i don't hate. the idea of blackouts, apart from the looting and the. >> you want to sort of. >> you want to sort of. >> purge riots. >> purge riots. >> purge riots. >> purge society. >> purge society. >> it would be. >> it would be. >> nice to wake. >> nice to wake. >> everyone up. yes. >> everyone up. yes. >> guys. >> guys. >> this is what it looks like, a little one. just everyone. everyone's tv turns off, people can't charge their phones and they go, oh my god. >> and then we say, this is because of ed miliband and

everyone just gets an idea. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> the problem is we're reliant on norway, and norway has gone mental. i mean, they're having this row about green energy laws. also, i read the other day, just just from memory rich person in norway, a sort of millionaire or whatever is losing 1/50 of their wealth per yeah losing 1/50 of their wealth per year. i think just by staying there because of the capital gains tax and the tax, there's some incredible tax sort of vicious cycle where they're just you can't keep money in assets or anything. and so norway has gone mental and now and we're dependent on norway the same. the same is true for all european countries. we need to develop nuclear and stop messing about. >> yeah, i think so. okay. still to come. has the guardian found something that isn't racist? and how is the nhs going to help lockdown babies? this is headliners only on gb

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at the guardian must be delighted. nick. >> yes, it's ethnicity, not key factor in england school exclusion study finds. and between the three of us, we couldn't agree what this article meant. it's like a guardian riddle where you always have to find out what are they trying to cover up or propagandise and you're never sure. so the idea is that that there was these findings that challenge the widely held views that children in some ethnic groups are disproportionately affected by exclusions and suspensions. and they're trying to say, actually, once adjusted for free school meal eligibility or special educational needs status, there's no significant differences between ethnic groups in rates of exclusion, which no one i wasn't thinking there was anyway. but they're saying there. >> is widely held belief is in their office. >> yeah, that's not what. >> yeah, that's not what. >> i think. i don't think that all teachers are racist in giving out punishments according to colour, but this sounds like they've discovered that, but they've discovered that, but they don't quite want to admit it. >> it just seems. yeah, they don't really know what to do with the story, that it's just it's a real odd one. and like

you say, nick, it's like, what are they going for? you're desperately trying to see how they're blaming white people. yeah. >> i can abuse partner with the guardian. like, what's the lie this time? i can't work out the angle. why are they back in my life? because i'm on this show is the reason. but you never know. the story could be about anything with a gun. it could be about a cat on a skateboard. we don't know the real story. i've got no idea. >> i felt so positive. i thought, oh, this is like the lord sewell's report that found that actually the uk is not systemically racist. i was saying, oh, it turns out no. >> right. so you thought it was like. >> that's what. >> that's what. >> i read, right? >> i read, right? >> right. i mean, maybe you're right. maybe it is just a positive story and we're just not used to positive stories. so we're like, oh, i thought, i thought it. >> was a guy trying to downplay anything that that people of different ethnicities might be excluded. actually they're not. but you're saying it's almost the opposite. >> it's just someone having a good day at the guardian going, oh, i don't know. great story. >> by saying it's a stark reality that an attainment gap persists between children from disadvantaged backgrounds. it's like, well, yeah. that's what it means. >> what disadvantaged. >> what disadvantaged. >> means, unfortunately.

>> means, unfortunately. >> ends on a pointless tautology. great journalism. >> okay, moving on. we are in the times next. and there's a radical idea that doing popular things would make a political party more popular than the other parties. nick. >> oh, yeah. sure. which one is this? >> number 12. >> number 12. >> number 12. okay, >> number 12. okay, fine. >> number 12. okay, fine. so i had a louis moment. god, i'm turning into louis. i've got, i've got i'm developing his blood pressure and his mental capacity. so this is tony blair. oh, is this a tony blair one? >> let's do let's go back to 11. we're going to do the. no, let's. yes. sorry. >> i'm so confused. sorry. because i've got 1111. >> it's all going very. >> it's all going very. >> well 11 guardian but i thought i wanted to let ben do that one. >> i say let's are we going for the guardian. we're going to go stick with the guardian. >> the guardian. >> the guardian. >> okay. illegal among words most often linked to migrants in uk politics. report finds. so apparently illegal has been one of the most one of the one of the terms most strongly associated with illegal migrants in uk parliamentary debates over

the last 20 years, research has found. i mean, so you can't say illegal when it comes to illegal migrants, or are they suggesting that you people are calling all migrants illegal even though they're not? >> well, it sounds to me like they're saying that people in government are using the word. >> a lot when. >> a lot when. >> we're discussing migration, but they would, wouldn't they? because that's a problem that politicians might be discussing. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> it's another it's another guardian non—story. i mean, it says researchers say that. i mean, who are these researchers? they're talking about this reinforcing the perception of migration as inherently unlawful. but they also found the words non—eu skilled economic temporary influx. so some of these words are positive like skilled, some are neutral. so it doesn't do what they're trying to make it say it does. they say that theresa may's 2012 pledge to create a hostile environment for illegal immigrants. i mean, that's a terrible idea to create a hostile environment for illegal people led to immediate 137% increase in hostile rhetoric, which is not surprising because the media sort of just parrots the media sort of just parrots the current regime. so i'm not

surprised about that. but it's all a kind of nothing guardian thing that i don't care about. >> but there is this problem when it comes to this subject, is people are so scared to say illegal. and they're also even when they say illegal, they don't they, they don't mean criminal. they're there's something sort of cognitive dissonance when it comes to illegal immigrants. they're sort of like, well, they're illegal immigrants, but they're not really criminals. and, you know, we still love them. but yes, they're illegal. and obviously they're illegal. and obviously the guardian are saying that, yeah, this is the politicians fault for bringing up the word illegal. well, it's a legitimate point. >> isn't it? if somebody is an asylum seeker, they might in the future not be illegal. and this is why we say irregular now, because we just don't have a clear irregular. have you not. >> heard this? no. >> heard this? no. >> irregular migration and irregular migrant doesn't have hasn't sorted their status out yet. >> the other thing that bothered me about this is there's something from the chief executive of the runnymede trust saying the last summer's racist riots were fuelled by politicians and the media and allowed to fester in online spaces. and you just hear like,

oh, you want to censor the truth and you're going to use racism as the reason to do it. alleged racism. >> yeah, absolutely. okay. moving on to the times and a story about populism. nick. >> yeah, this is a tony blair bringing digital ids to get tough on populism. and this is the kind of thing that tony blair loves to say. he loves id cards. they're the answer to all problems low energy piles, eczema, low id cards, low id cards don't even make sense. id cards don't even make sense. id cards id cards is always his answer to everything. he's been obsessed with this for years and years, and he sort of frames it in a very clever, blair esque style. sorry, i was put off by the other paper being out. that's why i made a very rare mistake. he frames it in his classic blair way, as if it's just a foregone conclusion. so he says, you've got problems with immigration and crime. he's like, well, do you want to do something about it? obviously, here's my id card with my face on it called the tony blair id card. but of course, it's not inconsistent to want a classical liberalism that we used to have in this country, whereby we have a naturally homogeneous society, and we have also a certain level

of freedom, and we don't have things like id cards. those are not contradictory. but in this new world, i do understand blair's claim that we need things like id cards. my big problem with it. and we're so trapped now. we're so trapped with cctv. your device can tell what you're thinking. i almost say i don't mind, but for one massive thing, which is that blair was pro vaccine passports. and so he would have people like me, and particularly ben, living as pariahs even more than i already am, you know, because people went mad about vaccine passports. it could be any of us. us. >> us. >> piers morgan yeah, i don't agree with you. i'm completely against this. and he he gives these examples saying, oh, it's no more information than you'd give netflix. it's like, yeah, netflix can't put me in prison and they're not going to pay my pension when i'm old. you know, i. >> ..- >> just. >> just. >> now. yeah, absolutely. i'm not into it. >> exactly. it sounds nice. it sounds oh digital id and it keeps track of all this and that. but yeah, the reality is like, what nick's saying is they'll just use it to force us into giving all our information out. we can't be. we won't be able to do it by anything without the government knowing.

and it's. yeah, like what tony blair has always wanted to do. >> i think he made a big. mistake on the vaccine passport because it was so unpopular to me, so unpopular, that if he hadnt me, so unpopular, that if he hadn't have gone for that, he could have got these id cards because people hate illegal immigration. he could have said this could have been his time, i think. but he got greedy on the vaccine. >> he's saying he thinks that people are prepared to trade privacy for efficiency. i think he's right. i just don't think it's good. >> yeah, he is right. yeah. people are willing to do that. yeah. >> just have long terms and conditions. nobody'll read them. telegraph now. and noble ambitions to improve children's interpersonal skills. how are they going to do that then? >> nhs offers speech therapy to lock down children on whatsapp. parents welcome life changing programme but professionals warn technology cannot replace expertise. they're trying to put something through on whatsapp to help these children. there's this phase of lockdown children where the children are non—verbal and they're not developing as well. i personally don't understand how lockdown did that because they're saying,

oh, they didn't have as much interaction with people. you still have interaction with your parents, you know, but it's. >> not the same, is it? they didn't have to train them to leave that. i mean, i saw a story the other day that said lockdown children can't use stairs. i thought, that's what you hear about rescue dogs, not people. >> they need to get them slinkies. and like this. >> it annoys me. like surely parents when you're in lockdown, when you're when you weren't working, you had way more time to interact with your children. you had way more time to teach them things like speaking exactly like speaking. and it just drives me mad. this whole there's this new phrase of non—verbal children, and it really annoys me because i just think, just read your children, just talk to them. someone out there saying, well, actually, ben, it's a lot more complicated than that. i don't believe it is. well. >> it's two things. the school shutdowns were criminal by the government and disgusting. but also, as you say, read the book. i see these kids like where i used to live. they were out in like the courtyard all day, all night, just screaming and just like kicking balls and stuff, like, just take them inside and ho. [10. >> no. >> that's good. we want them.

>> that's good. we want them. >> outside. >> outside. >> screaming and kicking balls that's. >> not near me and they can't speak or read. that's the problem. >> you just want rows of four year olds reading silently. >> yeah, like china. you'd love that. >> i just i think parents now just seem to. not all parents, but some just want to put their kids into nursery and say, you do the hard work for me. you teach my kids how to talk, how to wash themselves. >> this is very much like, has the state got a solution? yeah, we're going to do a whatsapp thing. i don't know what whatsapp. >> would come up with, something blair would teach. he'd be like. >> i'll teach your kids to speak. here's the blair id card. >> okay. >> okay. >> telegraph again now. and a man who let his hobby encroach on his career. he's the opposite of you, nick. >> oh, i see what you mean. i have no hobbies at all. so drill rappers, jail time for drug deaung rappers, jail time for drug dealing restricts music career. lawyer complains. oh, that's sad, isn't it? so this guy digga d, real name rhys herbert, real name rhys herbert. >> herbert. >> herbert. >> herbert. >> he was the judge said he was satisfied that the rapper had beenin satisfied that the rapper had been in possession of 50.65kg of cannabis. he was satisfied maybe he'd tasted it and sold at least

45kg for profit. i'm not that familiar with the kjt tasted it. kilograms tasted. i'm not familiar with the lingo because i think drug drugs are for degenerates, but i love that the lawyer was like, it's very, very sad and disappointing that he has a very least a year of his productive working life behind bars. now that's so funny. but i don't want to be too harsh because a lot of these people live quite near me. i want to say he's a great guy, great music. please don't come near my house and kill me. >> he's from the streets of notting hill, so he's. >> kill anyone, right? yeah. i mean, i say that if someone did a drill rap video in my old building and i was like, oh, they can they can just come into your building now. >> were you in. >> were you in. >> it. >> it. >> like the insurance act? >> like the insurance act? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i was, i was playing yourself. just playing nick bean >> all right. coming up, find out where you can attend a truly offensive rock concert and find out who's the messiest generation this is. headliners only on gb news.

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>> welcome back to headliners, opening this section with the guardian and anglicans. dancing with the devil in york. ben.

>> yes. york minster york minster congregation outraged over deeply inappropriate concert. so a metal band called the plague of angels would be outright would be an outright inqu outright would be an outright insult to their faith, says parishioners. now, i like metal bands, and i also like metal heads. i think you call them god, i'm old. but people that like metal music are normally the nicest, friendliest, very caring, lovely people. and i was all for them playing this, playing this gig until i read that. one of the members of the band was known for wearing the most controversial shirt in rock history that featured a topless nun masturbating, and the words jesus is a count. but not a count. and that that's just too far. count. and that that's just too fan there's no need for that. so yeah, don't let them play. >> i like that you were still okay when you found out a band called a plague of angel. the plague of angels. >> you've got to get people into the church. you've got to get

people in. that's what this is all about. yeah, exactly. yeah. >> bums on seats at. all costs. >> bums on seats at. all costs. >> but let's not insult the church while we're there. >> nick, you must be offended by this. >> i'm disgusted. i'm appalled. no, of course i am. the church has gone completely the wrong way. they've gone the way of like, let's just do anything and get anyone in instead of getting really, really strict. which would have worked. look at fight club people. weird example . club people. weird example. people want especially young men want something strict, harsh, old fashioned and that's what they would respond to. not this plague of angels. >> well, that's what we keep hearing, isn't it? that young men are going back to a sort of quite a conservative type of christianity? >> yeah. they're lashing themselves with whips, wearing all black stuff. >> but i would argue that the fans of plague of angels are those people. they're probably very decent, lovely folks. and so whilst i don't mind them being in the church, let's not. yeah, let's not blaspheme while we're there. >> fascinating. moving on. nick, the daily star seems to be suggesting that you and i live less cluttered lives than louis shaffer. that sounds true. >> thank you for acknowledging that i am technically a

millennial. it's. millennials are decluttering like i'm a senior, which is the best group of all millennials. we'll talk more later. millennials are decluttering like there's no tomorrow. here's how you can do it too. so millennials are decluttering their homes more than ever. weird turn of phrase. were they doing it before? i don't care at all. while oldies continue to hoard. although it's calling like gen x oldies now, so they'll be gutted about that. but yeah, i mean i like a good declutter. but the thing about but there's a limit to it. i mean, even marie kondo, the queen of decluttering, she even got bored of it eventually and like, retired from decluttering, which is so strange. like that really killed the dream for me. >> and just let stuff pile up around her. >> yeah, she realised like it wasn't, she wasn't. i think she like, got married or something or she moved on. she's like, i'm not sure about all this decluttering. and i'm like, you're the queen of decluttering. >> how strange. i mean, it is difficult in this day and age. you know, we have primark, the landfill emporium. we're kind of encouraged to own lots of things, aren't we? >> yeah. i mean, i'm i'm not a big fan of decluttering. just

have just don't have clutter. i don't like clutter. but i think, you know, little ornaments, maybe some action figures. let's, you know, make the place interesting. you live with. >> action figures in their boxes. >> yes, yes. »- >> yes, yes. >> you still be. you live like the 40 year old virgin. >> i really do, yeah, i really do. >> i think the reason young people can throw things away is because we're used to taking pictures of everything, and the. >> old people. >> old people. >> don't know they can do that. that's true. they throw it away. i won't have the memory. just take a picture. >> they also come from a time when stuff was good and lasting, and you had, like, the blacksmith and the cobbler, and they fixed stuff. now it's just been made. >> now you've just got, like, an ikea cabinet that lasts. yeah. falls apart and then it's so not worth it. there's no memories, no. [10. >> no. >> daily mail. now, ben, tell us what brits are dreaming of. >> what do britons want more of this year? it's lie—ins. apparently, enjoying a lion is one of the simple things that many, many britons want more for this year. and i completely understand it because the world is so horrific, the best thing to do is just lie in bed and dream of a better, better place.

everyone likes lying in bed, don't they? >> they do, and obviously i do because i go to bed incredibly late with this job. but. and my insomnia and crippling anxiety. but the point was, isn't it a bit depressing though, how britain is getting so horrible that all you want to do is just lie in bed and not hear starmer, because the country is going to decline even more. like, i'm going back to bed. there's nothing to look forward to. you just want to sleep. that's kind of depressing. >> oh, it's so depressing. but that's why you stay in bed. but don't. >> people watch this show at 5 am? they're up there, but a.m? they're up there, but they're hardcore. >> yeah, that's. i mean, i'm thrilled that they're watching it at 5 am, but that is. are you an early riser? you can't be. >> surely i was an early riser for a bit and then involved in this nonsense. yeah, no. and then? and then i stopped delivering for a doughnut company. but they. >> wanted doughnuts early. >> wanted doughnuts early. >> yeah. very early. what if you go into a supermarket? those doughnuts are fresh because we've been there at two in the morning, and it was awful. i wanted to wanted to die. but how. >> now. >> is this job better or worse

than that? you have to work with lewis schaffer. but up at three, delivering doughnuts. >> all this lewis schaffer. i like lewis schaffer. >> the show. >> the show. >> is nearly. >> is nearly. >> over. >> over. >> so let's take another quick look at saturday's front pages. the daily mail has, andrew told epstein, will play again soon? the express has. i will fight to honour the will of the people, and the times has long term sick. facing crackdown on benefits. the mirror has . beeb benefits. the mirror has. beeb has a win warning and the telegraph has. trump kicks off trade war with china. finally the daily star, orange man, orange man, baby in goldmember. that's it for tonight's show. thank you to my guests ben and nick. leo kearse will be back tomorrow night at 11 pm. with nick and lewis schaffer. and if you're watching at 5 am, please stay tuned for breakfast. good night. going to need the wider game. >> there will be a light breeze in the morning leading to a warm

front. boxt heat pumps sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello there. good evening. welcome to your gb views weather update from the met office as we head towards the weekend, often staying rather wet and windy to the north west. largely dry elsewhere and we could even see some sunshine at times. but for now, a frontal system. it's largely fizzling out across the country, but it's leaving behind a fair amount of cloud. a slight ridge of high pressure building behind this. this is where we're likely to see the clearest of skies. so turning chilly here even possible. seeing some frost by the time we reach the morning. but across a large bulk of the country, that's where the cloud is likely to stick around. and also starting to see some cloud push into the north—west. turning rather windy here as well. but most towns and cities just about staying above freezing. but in those clearer skies across rural spots, that's where we could just dip below and see that start to develop. so to start the weekend, then across scotland, a bit of a mix between clearer skies and also some cloud further south. so likely a chillier start across the far north—east with a risk

of frost, but a change on the way. turning very windy across western parts of scotland. some rain just starting to move in here. similar across northern ireland. fair amount of cloud here, turning very windy, particularly around coasts, but plenty of clear skies across wales, parts of the southwest. so a frost risk here but elsewhere. quite a grey start to the weekend. but the good news is the cloud should break up nicely, allowing for some sunshine to develop, particularly across wales. parts of the southwest and northern parts of england should start to see some sunshine, but across the southeast, staying rather cloudy for much of the day and still very windy across the northwest. a chance we could even see some gales to the very far northwest of scotland. cloudier here with some drizzle starting to move through, but temperatures around about average for the beginning of february. now sunday that front moves slightly more inland, so quite a damp day on offer across parts of scotland, northern parts of scotland, northern parts of scotland, northern parts of england, but any rain largely petering out by the time we reach the afternoon, and plenty of sunshine across the southeast, where it's been largely cloudy the last couple of days and into the new week. still rather wet and windy across the northwest, but

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