>> good afternoon britain. it's >> good afternoon britain. it's 12:00 on tuesday the 4th of 12:00 on tuesday the 4th of february. i'm tom harwood. february. i'm tom harwood. >> and i'm emily carver. it is >> and i'm emily carver. it is indeed february now. indeed february now. >> school stabbing horror >> school stabbing horror tributes are pouring in for the tributes are pouring in for the 15 year old harvey willgoose, 15 year old harvey willgoose, who was stabbed to death at all who was stabbed to death at all saints catholic high school in saints catholic high school in sheffield. sheffield. >> parents, students and members >> parents, students and members of the community have been of the community have been pounng of the community have been pouring into this school to pay pounng of the community have been pouring into this school to pay tribute to 15 year old harvey tribute to 15 year old harvey willgoose, who was fatally willgoose, who was fatally stabbed at this school stabbed at this school yesterday. with police yesterday. with police investigations continuing . investigations continuing . investigations continuing. >> elsewhere. us officials investigations continuing. >> elsewhere. us officials strike an extraordinary migrant strike an extraordinary migrant deal with el salvador. the country will accept deportees from any country, including

dangerous criminals. care. we'll have the latest. i mean, i'm sick. i don't know about you, but i'm sick of heanng about you, but i'm sick of hearing that children are being killed or stabbed or involved in awful violence. just going to school. and it doesn't matter where in the country you are, it seems. >> i mean, we've seen it in

we've seen it in wales, we've seen it in wales, we've seen it in yorkshire. leeds, sheffield, of yorkshire. leeds, sheffield, of course we've seen it in london. course we've seen it in london. you'd think that schools would you'd think that schools would be the safest place for children be the safest place for children to be when families send their to be when families send their kids off in the morning, you kids off in the morning, you would expect they would be in would expect they would be in safe hands. and just time and safe hands. and just time and time again, we see children time again, we see children bringing knives into school and bringing knives into school and complete disorder running riot complete disorder running riot in what should be, you know, a in what should be, you know, a playground or a place of playground or a place of learning. learning. >> absolutely. and it's the >> absolutely. and it's the children are violent against children are violent against each other, but also teachers each other, but also teachers can find themselves at risk of can find themselves at risk of dangerous children coming into dangerous children coming into the school with with weapons, the school with with weapons, just just violence. i mean, what just just violence. i mean, what do we do about this? do we do we do about this? do we really want to get to a place really want to get to a place where we have metal detectors as where we have metal detectors as mandatory? i know in some inner mandatory? i know in some inner city schools they already have city schools they already have that type of thing. yeah. have that type of thing. yeah. have police at the front of the police at the front of the school. i mean, is that really school. i mean, is that really

where we are now in britain? where we are now in britain? perhaps it is. >> i mean, we know there are metal detectors in many american schools. we know american schools. we know american schools have to do drills in case of school shootings. are we going to end up having not just a fire drill, but the stabbing drill in our schools? and more to the point, there are going to be the same tedious voices saying we need to restrict the sale of knives, that knives are too sharp, that no kitchen should have knives, that we should have knives, that we should all do with spoons. at what point do we realise it's not the knives, it's the people. and at what point do we find, particularly the incredibly violent elements in our society and frankly, remove them from society. >> is idris elba. wasn't it the other day who was saying we need to round the ends of our knives? so we all need to blunt the edges of our knives in order to stop knife crime. i'm sorry, but thatis stop knife crime. i'm sorry, but that is not the problem. that is not the flipping problem. >> no. >> no. >> i mean, for

continuing stories. police are continuing to question a teenager after a 15 year old boy died in a fatal

stabbing at a school in stabbing at a school in sheffield. the victim was named sheffield. the victim was named as harvey willgoose, a student as harvey willgoose, a student at all saints catholic school. at all saints catholic school. tributes poured in at the scene tributes poured in at the scene and on social media, with and on social media, with flowers, candles and balloons flowers, candles and balloons laid on a wall outside the laid on a wall outside the school. sophie willgoose, school. sophie willgoose, harvey's sister, has said my harvey's sister, has said my heart is broken into a million heart is broken into a million pieces. stop and search data pieces. stop and search data reveals children as young as ten reveals children as young as ten have been found carrying bladed have been found carrying bladed weapons. last year alone, just weapons. last year alone, just over 100 cases of youths between over 100 cases of youths between 10 and 17 years old were found 10 and 17 years old were found with weapons. shadow chief with weapons. shadow chief secretary to the treasury richard fuller spoke to gb news. secretary to the treasury richard fuller spoke to gb news. >> i lived in america for some >> i lived in america for some time and they had even worse time and they had even worse incidences of school shootings incidences of school shootings andifs incidences of school shootings and it's such a tragedy. it andifs incidences of school shootings and it's such a tragedy. it traumatises local communities traumatises local communities because parents then have to because parents then have to send their kids to school the send their kids to school the very next day or the week after, very next day or the week after, andifs very next day or the week after, and it's always going to be the andifs very next day or the week after, and it's always going to be the back of your mind. can it happen back of your mind. can it happen another time in that school or another time in that school or another time in that school or another local school? i just another time in that school or another local school? i just worry that we always think worry that we always think national government's got the national government's got the answer, that somehow if we put answer, that somehow if we put

some people in whitehall to some people in whitehall to think about it, the answer will come. actually, maybe we should just make sure that head teachers have that power. they know what's going on in their local school. they know where there may be a risk. maybe we should give more power to people who are on the front line, closer than expecting national policies to be the answer. >> the case of convicted child serial killer lucy letby is to be reviewed by a commission that investigates potential miscarriages of justice. the criminal cases review commission received an application from her lawyers yesterday. police notes have revealed she was absent for more than a third of suspicious incidents at the countess of chester hospital. lucy letby was convicted of murdering seven babies and attempting to murder seven others. today, a panel of international medical experts has given alternative causes of death in several cases against lucy letby. retired neonatologist doctor shoo lee said he believed his findings on skin mottling were misinterpreted by the prosecution. he said in a new paper he published in december last year, there were no cases

of skin discolouration when air was injected into the veins.

he may not hit the uk. elsewhere, angela rayner looks set to team up with conservative dominic grieve to form a new grieve to form a new council on islam and free dominic grieve to form a new council on islam and free speech. it's expected to have 16 speech. it's expected to have 16 members who will focus on what members who will focus on what they say is a rise in they say is a rise in islamophobia. the deputy prime islamophobia. the deputy prime minister is facing backlash on minister is facing backlash on other fronts today, after giving other fronts today, after giving the green light to six councils the green light to six councils to raise taxes by 10%. the to raise taxes by 10%. the government has announced a major government has announced a major trial aiming to transform breast trial aiming to transform breast cancer screening with artificial cancer screening with artificial intelligence, with almost intelligence, with almost 700,000 women expected to take 700,000 women expected to take part. it's hoped the technology part. it's hoped the technology will help specialists catch will help specialists catch cancer earlier, as well as cancer earlier, as well as freeing up radiologists in a bid freeing up radiologists in a bid to slash waiting times. to slash waiting times. according to breast cancer now, according to breast cancer now, about 55,000 women and 400 men about 55,000 women and 400 men are diagnosed with breast cancer are diagnosed with breast cancer every year in the uk. secondary every year in the uk. secondary care minister karen smith told care minister karen smith told gb news the national institute gb news the national institute for health research will start for health research will start recruiting these women as soon recruiting these women as soon as possible. >> what difference it makes is as possible. >> what difference it makes is

having less clinicians involved in in the work of the scanning and looking at those results. using ai and looking at those results. using al to do that, freeing up

headlines for now. more from me in half an hour. >> good afternoon britain. it is nine minutes past midday now. a 15 year old boy has died after community have been coming to the school here has ay after being stabbed to death at a 15 year old boy has died after being stabbed to death at a school in sheffield. school in sheffield. >> yes. the young man has been >> yes. the young man has been named as harvey willgoose, a named as harvey willgoose, a student at all saints catholic student at all saints catholic school. now a teenager, has school. now a teenager, has since been arrested on suspicion since been arrested on suspicion of murder and floral tributes of murder and floral tributes continue to mount up outside the continue to mount up outside the school in sheffield. school in sheffield. >> well, while the police >> well, while the police investigation continues, we're investigation continues, we're joined by gb news yorkshire and joined by gb news yorkshire and humber reporter anna riley, who humber reporter anna riley, who is at the site at that school. is at the site at that school. anna. just a terrible day. anna. just a terrible day. >> it really is, tom. sheffield >> it really is, tom. sheffield is truly a city in mourning all is truly a city in mourning all day, all morning and throughout day, all morning and throughout this afternoon, parents, this afternoon, parents, students and members of the students and members of the community have been coming to community have been coming to

the school here to lay the school here to lay floral tributes and pay their respects to 15 year old harvey willgoose, who sadly died yesterday, and police are currently questioning a 15 year old boy in connection with that. now, as part of these floral tributes, it's

with that. now, as part of these floral tributes, reads fly high, a party, and it reads fly high, you beautiful boy, forever 15. just truly shocking and saddening. any parent's worst nightmare sending your child to school for them never to return. now . police were called out to now. police were called out to this incident at 12:17 yesterday. they remain on site and as well as people coming to pay and as well as people coming to pay tribute, there has also been campaigners here as well. we spoke to one earlier, anthony allison. he's a founder of always an alternative, campaigning against knife crime in sheffield. and this is what he told us. >> we did a project with the school actually a couple of years ago called why me? it was a short film to raise awareness of knife crime, just to show that anybody could be affected by it. and it's just a it's just a shame that it's happened to this school. i think it's happened because it's been ignored by, you know, the government, the police and even schools as well. they try to

brush it under the carpet, try to act like it's not a thing when it is. and i think because there's not been no big consequences or, or anything to show the devastation that country. >> yethe1 april, a 14 year country. >> yethe devastation year country. >> yethe devastation that actually happens, people feel show the devastation that actually happens, people feel that they get away with it. that they get away with it. >> this school was also put into >> this school was also put into lockdown last week. on january lockdown last week. on january the 29th. the headteacher told the 29th. the headteacher told parents that the reason for the parents that the reason for the lockdown was due to threatening lockdown was due to threatening behaviour between a small number behaviour between a small number of students, where threats were of students, where threats were made of physical violence. now made of physical violence. now there's over 1300 pupils that go there's over 1300 pupils that go to this school. it's still to this school. it's still closed today as investigations closed today as investigations continue, police are asking continue, police are asking people with information to come people with information to come forward and we'll be here forward and we'll be here throughout the afternoon with throughout the afternoon with any developments as we get them. any developments as we get them. >> well, anna, thanks so much >> well, anna, thanks so much for being there for us. we're for being there for us. we're going to be following this going to be following this story, of course, throughout the story, of course, throughout the day. day. >> but the issue of knife crime >> but the issue of knife crime and stabbings in school has and stabbings in school has become a national issue for our become a national issue for our country. >> yes. in april, a 14 year country. >> yes. in april, a 14 year old

girl who stabbed two teachers and a pupil at a school in wales. that event took place just months ago. >> in may, a 17 year old boy was arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after a stabbing at a school in sheffield. >> and now a 15 year old boy has been arrested on suspicion of murder following this fatal stabbing of a teenage boy at a school in sheffield. >> it appears more and more teenagers are involved in stabbing incidents, particularly at our schools, where they should, at least in theory, be safe. so we got thinking and we want to know whether teenage murder suspects in general should be named when they're charged, should they lose their right to anonymity? as it stands, they are considered children and therefore there's no no one can can put their name out in the press or or anywhere at all. so should they lose that? right. >> well, joining us now is the former met police detective mike neville, who thinks they should be named, and the social campaigner and entrepreneur winston davis, who thinks they

shouldn't. mike, let's start with you. you want the law to be changed. why? >> well, i was a soldier at 16, so i was taught to use automatic weapons, and i was able to serve my country at 16. i think 16 is a good age. we're we're particularly told by the labour party that you should be able to vote at 16. so i think if you are at 16 years old, if you kill somebody or commit a heinous offence, i think you should be named. i think possibly with children who are somebody who's under 16. then there may be some reasons that we can hold it back, but they should be named when they are convicted. but if you're 16 years old, i was old enough, as i say, to serve this country. you're old enough to understand that the wickedness that you've done, you should be named. >> i mean, winston, a lot of people would consider these types of crimes stabbing or even stabbing someone to death as a very adult crime. surely the perpetrators should be treated or the suspects should be treated as such.

>> yeah, look 100% right. if someone has committed, like you said, a heinous crime. they've murdered, they've stabbed, they've done whatever they've done. okay. yeah, sure. 100% treat them as the way they should be treated as we've seen in recent weeks, right? 100%. however, if they've not been convicted and they are not, and we can't say legally that they have been proven to be guilty of that crime, then we're in this dangerous situation where where we see loads of times now, trial by media, the name goes out, it's we're going to

know, whatever we're going to do, you know, because there's no there's no judicial process there. >> and, mike, why would you cut this off at age 16? what about a 15 year old? >> that's i think 16 is a reasonable thing because you have to treat children differently, but the children mature much quicker. now, as i say, in 1983 i was 16 and i was a soldier. and there's a continual campaign. people have voted at 16 in scotland and wales. so there's this blurred line. what is an adult? let's make an let's make a decision and make it final. so let's say 16 is an adult. you can make all sorts of choices at 16 about who you have sex with or whatever, anything else. what do you you know, so let's draw a line in the sand and say, this is what it is. but at 16 you are old enough to face the consequences of what you've done. and the argument that winston puts forward about trial by social media that applies if you're 83 and you stab somebody in your name, so you either don't name anybody or there is a system where people are named. and in

this country justice is seen to be open. so people should be named. and i think if you are convicted and you're under 16, then you should be named. we shouldn't have anybody hiding away who's committed the most heinous of offences. once you're found guilty, you should be named winston. >> what about those who admit their guilt? so arrested. charged, plead guilty before so? so a trial doesn't even have to take place. there are cases, many, many cases across the country where someone who is considered a child by law under the age of 18 will have been arrested, charged, admitted their own guilt, and still the media can't name them. is that right? >> again, i know people are going to be screaming, oh, and i forget it. but until they've been convicted in law and again, the conversation goes back to are they an adult at 16 or are they an adult at 18? i have a 14 and 15 year old son. sons. they

are not adults. they are far from being adults. and what you just said a minute ago about children maturing quicker, they're not. trust me, people are buying houses later, they're getting married later, they're having children later. trust me, they are not growing up quicker. the erosion in our society of morals, of understanding the what it means to be a decent human being, that's the issue. it's not about their age, mike. >> what about the parents? i mean, if it is a child committing a very well, one of the worst crimes of violent crime, a stabbing, a murder, should something be done with the parents. >> i think they should be should be looked into. what was that? you know, sometimes you get a i come from a, you know, a single mum. when one boys get to a certain age, they're bigger than the mother. they can do really what they want, you know, when you're that age. but i think if some parents have been feckless, if they can be found to have neglected and allowed this to

happen, then some action should be taken. but that could be part of the investigation. are the parents in some way responsible for how this individual has turned out? some single, particularly mums, they'll have no ability to control that boy at all. but some will and some will have neglected them. and added to this, added fuel to the fire of how bad they are. and they could some action could be taken against them. >> it's an incredibly thorny issue, isn't it? and sadly, we're going to be having more of these conversations as more of this stuff happens in some way. children have never been more infantilized and we're not buying houses. and you're right, not getting married and having children until far later. but in other ways, school playgrounds are now looking more like battlefields. but for now, both mike neville and winston davis, thanks so much forjoining us and talking through what is, i'm sure, going to be a conversation that continues to be had. >> okay. well, let us know your thoughts. who do you agree with? gbnews.com/yoursay is the way to get in touch. this is good afternoon britain on gb news.

lots more coming up on today's show. yes. us officials have striked an extraordinary migrant deal with el salvador to accept deportees from any country, including dangerous criminals. is this a triumph on the part of donald trump? should the uk copy?

>> good afternoon britain. at 24 minutes past midday, we're going to go straight to downing street. our man on downing street, chris hope, is fresh out of speaking with the prime minister's official spokesman. and chris, what does the what does downing street have to say about this allegation that a voice coach met with keir starmer during the tightest level of restrictions in

december 2020? >> tom, hi. welcome to downing street. yeah, precisely. nothing on that. and that's no surprise because the pm's official spokesman is a civil servant. he speaks to the prime minister since he became prime minister back in july. so what we're told is that it's not a matter for him, the spokesman, to get involved. he's he was. we have the pm's words from last night. of course. the pm last night told reporters now they're in brussels for that press conference to shouted questions from other journalists. conference to shouted questions from otherjournalists. he said all the rules were followed, not for me to comment. a matter for political colleagues is what the line is from downing street and thatis line is from downing street and that is understandable. that's what should happen. the civil servant who speaks to the pm shouldn't be speaking about things before he became pm, but there will be other people speaking for him today and we'll get those lines to you as soon as we can. the big news from lobby, is that keir lobby, though, is that sir keir starmer the red starmer is rolling out the red carpet for ursula von der leyen. she is the european commission president and the european

council chief. he's antonio costa. on may the 19th. that will be the first of annual summits between the uk prime minister and the leader of the european commission, the top people in the trading bloc. they want to work further want to work on further collaboration the european collaboration with the european union. things happened union. and other things happened last night. of course, i was with the pm yesterday in brussels. as you as you both know, the talks last night were about security and defence. we are told other issues which are told the other issues which we want raise we know europe want to raise with whilst on with us, notably whilst on freedom of the under freedom of movement of the under 30 that was not raised. we understand on guidance and the pm will be meeting with a danish prime minister tonight here in downing street, but it is unlikely the uk will be working to sort out a solution to the issue with of greenland, with the us. >> really, really fascinating red carpet to be rolled out for ursula von der leyen. well, chopper, thanks for joining us and we will check in with you a little bit later. but of course,

elsewhere lot. the us officials have struck an extraordinary migrant deal with el salvador to accept deportees. >> yes. this has been described as the most unprecedented and extraordinary migratory agreement anywhere in the world. the deal will see el salvador take migrants of all nationalities as well as violent criminals now in american jails. >> it all comes as president trump secured border protection agreements from both canada and mexico. so joining us now is the conservative member of parliament, marc francois. because, marc, this is a pretty extraordinary deal. and many people will be asking, golly, couldn't we do the same? >> well. >> well. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> for having me on. >> for having me on. >> we had a migrant agreement. we had the rwanda plan. now, some people liked it and some people didn't. but it's one more plan that labour and labour have got. they have absolutely no

plan at all. they have a slogan. we will smash the gangs. well, the gangs, i'm afraid, remain resolutely unsmashed and small boat arrivals are up by a third since labour came to power. and it's worse. they've got this new borders bill they want to bring into parliament. that will change the law, so that people coming across the channel who, as they arrived illegally, weren't allowed to qualify for asylum, that would change the law to allow them to apply. what that means is more will come. it will be a pull factor. so not only have they got no plan, they do have legislation which is likely to mean even more people will attempt a perilous journey across what is already the most crowded shipping lane in the world. and, you know, and in the channel. unfortunately, a number of people have already died. so

you look at what trump is doing in the united states, and you compare that to the labour approach. the only solution they have is to make it easier for people to come across the channel and apply for asylum. >> keir starmer. >> keir starmer. >> absolutely bonkers. >> absolutely bonkers. >> keir starmer has been pictured with giorgia meloni. they're apparently working together on some kind of mafia style crackdown on the people smugglers and migrant routes. does that not show that? you know, at least he's trying to do something on this issue, mark. >> oh come on. so he's going to stop people illegally coming across the channel with a photo opportunity. i mean, come. >> on, with the mafia style crackdown, mark, really? >> does anyone believe that? i mean, this is a bloke who promised

pull. every procedural trick in erskine may to try. to relationship. it's all code. it's all smoke and mirrors. from wanting to take britain back into the european union without a referendum. that is what all these photo opportunities are about. that is what is going on. and the sooner people wake up to that, the better. >> wow. well, we'll keep our

beady little eyes on that one. mark francois, for the time being, thanks very much for joining us. conservative member of parliament. of course. >> thank you very much. well, yes. i mean, donald trump is doing what he said he was going to do. to be fair, he said he was going to launch a massive, unprecedented crackdown on illegal migration. he's doing that. he's throwing his weight around. when it comes to tariffs. it does look as though mexico and canada have both ceded ground, particularly on the border issues that trump is concerned about. so, you know, it might be unusual, but is he getting things done? >> el salvador used to have the highest homicide rate in all of the americas. now it's got one of the lowest. i think only canada is safer than el salvador. what did they do? they locked up all their criminals. they built the biggest prison in the world. they rounded up the gangs and they imprisoned them. no wonder they've got space in advertising this now to the united states. one thing, though, when all of the british prisons were completely full to bursting over the summer and we

had to let people out early and all the rest of it, a third of their sentence served. estonia offered their prison space to the uk, and the british government didn't take estonia up on the offer. why? because under the terms of the echr. >> for goodness. >> for goodness. >> sake, visitation rights must be upheld for criminals. so we couldn't take up space in other countries because we would then have to, as taxpayers pay for their friends and family to fly out and visit. >> makes me want to tear my hair out. i mean, how many of these stories do we have where you read a little bit and then you find out, oh, the echr that's the reason why that foreign criminal can't be deported. oh, that's the reason why this man, who has committed several crimes and continues to sexually assault women in the town centre of wherever. oh, he can stay too, because of his family life rights. >> because all this paedophile, this paedophile can remain in the country because he needs access to his children. yeah. >> that was a wild one. yeah. i mean, you know, do you feel

safer because of the echr? isn't that fundamentally one of the reasons why we have these things, you know, for the security of our nation? >> everyone talks about article ten of the echr. the echr protects your right to freedom of speech. and then a man burns a quran in manchester and is arrested. where was his free speech? right there. where is the echr protecting him for doing what he wants with his own property. >> and his name's just put out there by the police? i mean, what's all that about? he's certainly going to have a target over his head now, surely. anyway, lots more coming up on today's show. did you know that there is a theft every 12 minutes from a van in the uk? it's completely out of control. we're going to be joined by one white man, white van man who's had enough of it. that's after your latest news headlines. >> good afternoon. the top stories this hour. police are continuing to question a teenager after a 15 year old boy died in a fatal stabbing at a school in sheffield. the victim was named as harvey willgoose, a

student at all saints catholic school. tributes poured in at the scene and on social media, with flowers, candles and balloons laid on a wall outside the school. sophie willgoose, harvey's sister, has said my heart is broken into a million pieces. stop and search data reveals children as young as ten have been found carrying bladed weapons. last year alone, just over 100 cases of youths between 10 and 17 years old were found with weapons. the case of convicted child serial killer lucy letby is to be reviewed by a commission that investigates potential miscarriages of justice. the criminal cases review commission received an application from her lawyers yesterday. police notes have revealed she was absent for more than a third of suspicious incidents at the countess of chester hospital. a panel of experts are giving evidence today. opening the press conference, mp sir david davis described his convictions as one of the major injustices of modern times. lucy letby was

convicted of murdering seven babies and attempting to murder seven others, and china has retaliated after the us imposed 10% tariffs on its goods. that's as president donald trump made the announcement last night that the announcement last night that the us will delay imposing tariffs on mexico for a month after agreeing a border deal with the mexican president. not long after the us taxes on china began at 5 am. british time, china said it was imposing 10% tariffs on american crude oil and agricultural machinery. there will also be 15% tariffs on coal and liquefied natural gas. china also said it's imposing export controls on rare earth metals, but that won't come into effect until the 10th of february. global markets slumped earlier in the day yesterday following trump's announcements and his stated intention to impose tariffs on the eu, but hinted he may not hit the uk. and those are the latest gb news headlines for now. more news in half an hour. >> for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign

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>> good afternoon britain. it's just coming up to 20 to 1 now. you've been getting in touch about a lot of the stories we've been talking about today, particularly the stabbing crisis in our schools. >> yeah, a lot of you are deeply concerned. jenny in lancashire says schools are already practising a lockdown incident. my practising a lockdown incident. my daughter had one last week. the violence and murder is awful, not defendable. however, we need to tackle the cause. what is pushing youngsters to take these actions? is it radical views? are they victims of bullying, trying to get retribution, gang war, drugs, mental health issues? it might be all of those things depending on depending on the young person. >> it is fascinating to know that in schools. >> yeah.

>> yeah. >> i mean we were we were almost saying, me, i hope saying, goodness me, i hope it doesn't point where doesn't come to the point where there are drills like there are in the united states for school shootings, but it seems like there are already sort. >> of we're out of touch. >> of we're out of touch. >> children practising for stabbing incidents. >> yeah. so when i was at school, you know, you had the fire alarm test. the drill for that. i think that was it. >> that was that was true for me too. >> i think that was it. there wasn't anything about stabbing, that's for sure. and danny in the isle of wight, she says, for decades now, i've seen school bullies being kept in school and the bullied moved or told to home school their children. yes. we were talking also about how, you know, we're quite loathe to actually expel pupils sometimes. >> i've got a theory actually, that this is why. >> she says they get special treatment. the badly behaved kids. >> i think this is why grammar schools are so popular. i don't think it's the fact that that necessarily there are brighter children they've children just because they've passed their 11 plus. >> i just. >> i just. >> i just. >> i think that simply the benefit of grammar schools might well be removing maybe the 10% most disruptive children. and if

non—grammar schools were more easily able to remove, you know, the 1 or 2 kids in class who were the really disruptive ones, the quality of the others education would rise just completely through the roof. the amount of time the teacher could spend on, you know, the 98% as opposed to the 2%. >> now, this is this is a controversial one. richard says we need more male teachers. i wonder if there's some truth to that. actually, you know, what do all these boys and teenagers have in common with their female teachers? do they need. >> a male dominated profession? >> a male dominated profession? >> isn't it hugely female dominated? and is that the best for young boys, you know, do we neglect some of their needs with that? but then more males need to go into teaching then guess. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so there you go. keep the views coming in. very interesting to read your experiences, particularly that lockdown incident at school. well, are you a victim of van theft? do you know a victim of van theft? well, a tall theft from vans went up by 5% from 2022 to 2023. over 44,000 incidents reported to the police incidents reported to the police in just one year, the equivalent to one theft every 12 minutes.

>> well, yesterday, tradesmen gathered in westminster demanding tougher sentences for criminals as research found that tens of millions of pounds worth of tools are stolen every year. >> well, joining us now is the chief executive of band of builders, gavin crane. gavin, thank you very much indeed for coming on to talk about this. i mean, those figures are absolutely astonishing. can you try and put it into, you know, real life for us? i mean, have you been badly affected by this? >> good afternoon. absolutely. even our charity van has been targeted twice in the last 12 months. and whilst we don't carry tools like the tradespeople, we've suffered obviously the damage to the vehicle, the rise in insurance premiums and the loss of the vehicle while it's been repaired. but tools are trades, people's livelihood and losing them can mean to thousands of poundsin them can mean to thousands of pounds in replacement costs. many self—employed workers don't have insurance, and even those that do may struggle with claims because of the terms and conditions and clauses within the policies make it very difficult. and let's face it,

without tools, work grinds to a halt, leading to cancel jobs, lost clients and obviously financial instability. so it's a very tough time to be tradesperson. >> and this has been getting worse in recent years, not better. i mean, why is it getting so much worse now? >> i think certainly vans obviously trades people's vans are obviously known to carry a quite a substantial amount of in value of tools. and i think the thieves just see them as easy targets, which is why we're calling for action now for, for tougher sentences on on vehicle thieves and calling for the kind of opportunities to resell these items to be closed, such as car boots and marketplaces. >> yeah, that's the problem, isn't it? they go straight to the car boot sales or on the onune the car boot sales or on the online marketplaces, facebook and all of that. i mean, do you get the impression that the police care about this issue, that they're doing enough? so if your van gets, you know, attacked and they take out the tools or whatever's in there,

you're left with a, well, a huge expense. are the police on the case? >>i case? >> i mean, ijoined the rally yesterday and the police around parliament square were absolutely fantastic. we don't blame the police at all, i don't think i think they're short funded. they have very limited resources. but just talking from experience, for example, our case, which where our van was broken into two months ago again, that's now been closed. there's no further evidence or information. and again, someone gets away with, with damaging property. >> i mean, some of the stories that i've been reading are just desperate. i mean, tens of thousands of pounds worth of kit stolen in some of these cases, people who just can't afford to get back into the business after a particularly heinous theft. can you can you tell us some of the some of the personal stories that we were hearing about yesterday? >> i think it goes so much wider than that. i think we also need to consider the mental health and wellbeing implications of tool theft, the stress of financial loss, obviously, the

frustration, anxiety and depression and obviously repeated thefts can can make people, tradespeople feel that they're targeted and unsafe at work. and this is an industry wide impact for, for holding construction industry. with many tradespeople considering leaving the industry due to the repeated thefts and which will ultimately worsen the skill shortage. >> yeah, i mean, you go out to a job, a plumbing electrician, whatever you're doing, construction worker, you step into someone's home or whatever, and then you come back out and your van's just been emptied. i mean, i can imagine the anxiety and i can see how people can get into a depressed state, you know? gavin. sorry, sorry. >> there's not many occupations where you lay awake at night worrying about whether your your tool that you need to do your job will be there in the morning. >> yeah. it's one of those things about being a sort of a sole trader or someone just responsible for your own business. it's no, i can imagine that. gavin crane, thanks so much for joining that. gavin crane, thanks so much forjoining us. chief exec

much for joining us. chief exec of band of builders. and actually, perhaps the best surname of any builder that i mean, that's nominative determinism, isn't it? gavin crane? >> it's very good, very good. it's a pretty evil crime, actually, i think to destroy someone's livelihood like that with no care for the consequences. horrible. toughest sentences i say. anyway, labour say they plan to bring back neighbourhood policing with 13,000 neighbourhood officers to crack down on crime and keep our streets safe. okay, fine. >> well, we're going to get to that in just a second, but if you're in search of some winter sun, here's the forecast for some of those top european houday some of those top european holiday destinations. >> ready to soak up that holiday sunshine? >> well, we need some cover. >> well, we need some cover. >> no worries. all sorted. >> no worries. all sorted. >> allclear travel insurance sponsors gb news travel destinations forecast. >> hi there, if you're looking for some winter sun, actually the mediterranean is the place to find it. plenty of sunny skies during the next few days. although greece has seen some heavy rain . and that's clearing

heavy rain. and that's clearing on wednesday, followed by windy conditions through wednesday. thursday into friday, italy through the balearics into spain, portugal and the canaries. indeed, plenty of sunny skies and it remains that way until the end of the week, when it does turn increasingly unsettled. >> allclear travel insurance sponsors gb news travel destinations forecast. >> okay, lots more coming up. yes. angela rayner well, she's going to be ruling on islam. apparently she's set to create a council to tackle islamophobia. but critics are very much worried that this could free speech. that's next.

okay. good afternoon britain 1250 it is. angela rayner looks set to team up with conservative heavyweight dominic grieve to form a new council on islam. >> well, it's expected to have

16 members who will focus on what they say is a rise in islamophobia. but the deputy prime minister is facing backlash on other fronts. today, after giving the green light to councils raising tax. but let's focus in on the let's focus in on this council, because it has beenin on this council, because it has been in the context of a islamophobia definition, a definition that the labour party have adopted, that many people suspect might be hoisted upon the country, and might that limit what we are allowed to say about the religion of islam? >> well, emma trimble has a strong opinion on this. emma, thank you very much indeed for joining us. what do you make of it? i mean, you've written about an islamophobia definition and potential curtailment of free speech. what are your thoughts on this? >> i certainly do have a strong opinion. i don't think that it is possible to overstate how bad this is. you mentioned the islamophobia definition. well, way back in 2018, when this original all party parliamentary group was published, its report, there was a whole group of us, a

whole host of us from across the spectrum. we had secularists, christians, sikhs, all sorts of organisations who push back against this out of the concern that this is, is it is effectively a blasphemy law. it would stop you from being able to silence. it would stop you from being able to criticise islam. and so i think when we're we're talking about this also in the context of this man who's been arrested in manchester for burning a quran and has pled guilty to a racially aggravated pubuc guilty to a racially aggravated public order offence for that. and this is and there's no other way to put it, it is a blasphemy law that would be imposed on the whole of the british public. and we have to remember here that they've appointed, as you mentioned, dominic greaves, to be the chair of this new council, to come up with a definition of islamophobia. well, he's the person who wrote the foreword for the report. the initial report that put forward this definition of islamophobia

that would have extremely negative implications for freedom of speech. so this the damage that this would do to british society cannot possibly be overstated. >> i've read this , this report >> i've read this, this report and the definition of islamophobia. they say if you talk about islam being spread by the sword, that's islamophobic. i'm sorry. that's literally history. >> history. >> history. >> that's literally i mean, the whole point about the original caliphate is that it was expansionist and full of conquest. >> and expressions of muslimness. i mean, there's a it's so vague, emma. that's the problem, isn't it? >> yeah. i mean, it's an endlessly elasticated definition. it could be used. and actually at the time this was it was pointed out by former counter—terrorism chief that this would hamper our ability to deal with terrorism. this would it would effectively make it so that if you are an ex—muslim who criticises the hijab, who criticises the hijab, who criticises the hijab, who criticises the prophet muhammad, if i were to say that i think that the prophet muhammad was a liar, which of course i do, because i'm not a muslim. so i

don't believe that islam is true, that would be considered islamophobic. and so actually, the irony is that when the labour government want to make itself seem as if it's such a so welcoming to people who want to claim asylum here, but if you come here from a muslim country where you're not safe because you're perhaps an apostate and you're perhaps an apostate and you might be killed in, say, pakistan for your views on islam, you come here and then find out that you're going to. >> have to speak again on this, because we've run to the end of the hour, unfortunately. but we'll speak again. emma trimble there. thank you very much indeed. we'll be back in just a tick. so stick with us. >> despite the morning rain, it'll be a nice, warm, cosy day ahead. boxt heat pumps sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello! >> hello! >> yes, it's time for your latest weather update from the met office here on gb. news, wet weather edging across the country today, brightening up in many western areas this afternoon with some blustery showers in the far northwest. the rain is being created by

this wiggling weather front, which is, as i say, only slowly staggering across the country, providing some pretty heavy bursts of rain across southwest scotland earlier clearing from here now, but that rain only slowly spreading its way towards the midlands across northwest england. much of east anglia in the southeast will stay dry until dusk. brighter skies following to much of scotland and northern ireland, but some showers coming into the far north—west. pretty mild out there, particularly ahead of this weather front. but it's also really gusty as this band of rain moves in the winds. suddenly really picking up that rain, though, is kind of fizzling out, so it's going to be fairly light and patchy as it crosses east anglia in the south—east. but nevertheless things turning a bit damp here dunng things turning a bit damp here during the evening rush hour. dher during the evening rush hour. drier conditions following for wales and northern england, but lots of showers packing into northern ireland and western scotland. there'll be some snow over the tops of the hills here, the winds easing as that rain band moves through but staying pretty breezy across northwestern areas well into the

night. elsewhere, the rain will steadily clear from the south—east. so yes, a little damp here, but then turning clearer by midnight. and then much of england wales actually having a dry night and a night with long clear spells as well. a few showers will keep going into western scotland, and particularly the north of northern ireland, staying breezy here, helping to keep the temperatures up, most towns and cities dropping to about 3 or 4. but there will be some touches of frost in the countryside, so a chilly start, certainly colder tomorrow morning than this morning, but a sparkling day of sunshine for quite a few of us. maybe the odd shower brushing through wales, northwest england. certainly there'll be more showers in western scotland, but many areas fine and dry tomorrow, with plenty of sunny spells, a little cooler with temperatures about average for the time of year. >> there will be a light breeze in the morning leading to a warm boxt heat pumps

>> good afternoon britain. it's 1:00 on tuesday the 4th of february. i'm emily carver. >> and i'm tom harwood. >> and i'm tom harwood. >> well, the school stabbing horror tributes are pouring in for 15 year old harvey willgoose, who was stabbed to death at all saints catholic high school in sheffield. >> the sheffield community are in mourning with the loss of 15 year old harvey willgoose. as police investigations continue into his stabbing. >> we're keeping a close eye on that. elsewhere, u.s. >> we're keeping a close eye on that. elsewhere, us. officials strike an extraordinary migrant deal with el salvador. the country will accept deportees from any country, including dangerous criminals. should the united kingdom look to do the same? >> and angela rayner rules on islam the deputy prime minister, angela rayner, she's set to create a council to tackle islamophobia. but could a new islamophobia. but could a new islamophobia definition stifle

free speech? >> and a panel of international medical experts today claim there's no evidence that lucy letby murdered a single baby. they say the deaths can be explained by natural causes and substandard care. we'll have the very latest. >> on. the. »- >> on. the. >> well, a huge amount to cover on today's programme, not least the spate of stabbings that we're seeing in our schools. we'll get to all of it after your very latest news headlines. >> tom, thank you very much. and we start with some breaking news this hour that police in the city of orebro in sweden have confirmed five people have been shot in a school shooting in the city. the school is reportedly on lockdown and a major security

operation is continuing there. a police statement says there has been a shooting at the school. five people have been shot. the extent of the injuries is unclear at this stage. they also say the charges are currently attempted murder, arson and aggravated weapons offences. more on this breaking story as we get it. elsewhere, police are continuing to question a teenager after a 15 year old boy died in a fatal stabbing at a school in sheffield. the victim was named as harvey willgoose, a student at all saints catholic school. tributes poured in at the scene and on social media, with flowers, candles and balloons laid on a wall outside the school. the former children's commissioner for england has suggested knife crime involving teenagers is a national crisis that needs a national crisis that needs a national response. but baroness anne longfield also says i wouldn't like to see teachers in stab vests or body cams or metal scanners. stop and search data reveals children as young as ten have been found carrying bladed

weapons. shadow chief secretary to the treasury richard fuller spoke to gb news. >> i lived in america for some time and they had even worse incidences of school shootings andifs incidences of school shootings and it's such a tragedy. it traumatises local communities because parents then have to send their kids to school the very next day or the week after, andifs very next day or the week after, and it's always going to be in the back of your mind. can it happen another time in that school or another local school? i just worry that we always think national government's got the answer, that somehow if we put some people in whitehall to think about it, the answer will come. actually, maybe we should just make sure that headteachers have that power. they know what's going on in their local school. they know where there may be a risk. maybe we should give more power to people who are on the front line, closer than expecting national policies to be the answer. >> in other news, the case of convicted child serial killer lucy letby is to be reviewed by a commission that investigates potential miscarriages of justice. the criminal cases review commission received an

application from her lawyers yesterday. police notes have revealed she was absent for more than a third of suspicious incidents at the countess of chester hospital. lucy letby was convicted of murdering seven babies and attempting to murder seven others. today, a panel of international medical experts has given alternative causes of death in several cases against lucy letby. retired neonatologist doctor shoo lee said he believed his findings on skin mottling were misinterpreted by the prosecution. he said in a new paper he published in december last year, there were no cases of skin discolouration when air was injected into the veins. more updates throughout the day. china has retaliated after the us imposed 10% tariffs on some of its goods. that's as president donald trump made the announcement last night that the us will delay imposing tariffs on mexico for a month after agreeing a border deal with the mexican president. not long after the us taxes on china began this morning, china said

it was imposing 10% tariffs on american crude oil it was imposing 10% tariffs o