tv Martin Daubney GB News February 5, 2025 3:00pm-6:00pm GMT
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>> very , very good afternoon to >> very, very good afternoon to you. it's 3:00 pm and welcome to the martin daubney show here on gb news. we're broadcasting for you live from the heart of. westminster and all across the uk. on today's action packed show, the pressure mounts on keir starmer as we can reveal that the under—fire prime minister has now been reported to the police for that voice coaching visit. i'll be joined on the show by the man who called 999 on the man they're calling non stick starmer and the mother of barnaby webber, who was stabbed to death by a psychopath. valdo calocane has branded the inquiry into nhs failings a horror show. on today's show, i'll be joined in the studio by emma webber, who says there are other calocane out there. enough is enough from today. change will happen and we will ensure it. and a group of panicked labour mps from 89 seats where reform came second at the general election, urging
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sir keir starmer to shout louder on both legal and illegal immigration. i'll be joined by one of the labour mps to ask them is this the beginning of a red wall revolt? and at 4 pm. today, reform uk will hold an emergency press conference. they are expected to blast labour's plans to cancel may's elections in nine council areas, meaning 5.6 million votes will be postponed. we'll be there for you live exclusively on gb news. and that's all coming in your next. okay. and we're going to go straight now to the house of commons. the security minister is speaking on the inquiry into prevent. >> on each. >> on each. >> of these occasions. >> of these occasions. >> the decision. >> the decision. >> at the time. >> at the time. >> was that. >> was that. >> the. perpetrator should not progress. >> to the. >> to the. >> channel. >> channel. >> multi—agency process. but the prevent. >> learning. >> learning. >> review found. that there was sufficient. >> risk for. >> risk for. >> the perpetrator to have been. managed through prevent.
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>> it found. >> it found. >> that. >> that. >> the referral. >> the referral. >> was closed. prematurely. and. >> was closed. prematurely. and. >> there was. >> there was. >> sufficient concern. >> sufficient concern. >> to keep. >> to keep. >> the case active while. >> the case active while. >> further information was collected. >> the review is. >> the review is. >> clear on. >> clear on. >> the. >> the. >> concerning behaviours. >> concerning behaviours. >> that the perpetrator demonstrated. >> it highlights. >> it highlights. >> his. >> his. >> interest in the manchester arena attack, that he talked about stabbing people, and it flagged that some of the grievances that could have been a motivation were not. >> fully considered. >> fully considered. >> the review also highlights the perpetrator's clear vulnerabilities and complex needs that may have made him more susceptible to being drawn into terrorism. the review concluded that too much focus was placed on the absence of a distinct ideology, to the detriment of considering the perpetrators susceptibility, grievances, and complex needs. there was an under exploration of the significance of his repeat referrals and the
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cumulative risk, including his history of violence. there were potentially incomplete lines of inquiry, and that at the time the perpetrator could have fallen into a mixed, unclear or unstable category for channel due to his potential interest in mass violence. indeed, the overall conclusion of the review is that he should have been case managed through the channel multi—agency process rather than closed to prevent this would have enabled coordinated, multi—agency risk management and support. madam deputy speaker, the prevent learning review made 14 recommendations for improvements to prevent. we have accepted these findings and rapid action has been taken to implement the recommendations. counter—terrorism policing have conducted in—depth assurance visits to every region to determine whether the issues identified in this case have
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been resolved by operational improvements made since 2021. urgent work is underway to address the findings. the prevent assessment framework was launched in september and is now in place across all regions. it was developed by experts and is being used to triage and risk, assess all, prevent referrals. it will improve decision making at all stages of the prevent system. roll out of this tool has been accompanied by rigorous mandatory training. we have begun an end to end review of prevent thresholds to ensure prevent thresholds to ensure prevent can deal with the full range of threats we see today from islamist extremism, which is the most significant terrorist threat that the uk faces, through to the fascination with mass violence that we saw in the southport case. this internal review will complete in april and further
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strengthen the approach to repeat referrals and ensure that clear policy guidance and training is in place. we have completed the first stage of a policy review into how prevent supports referrals who have mental ill health or are neurodivergent . actions for neurodivergent. actions for improving the operational approach have been identified and will be implemented swiftly with oversight from the new prevent commissioner. we are also strengthening our approach to the oversight of referrals that do not meet prevent thresholds to make sure that people receive the right support. next week, a pilot starts in several local areas to test new approaches to cases that are transferred to other services. and of course, the government has appointed lord anderson as interim prevent commissioner. this is the first time that prevent will have a dedicated, independent oversight
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in its history, and this will help ensure that prevent is always held to the highest of standards. his first task is to review the perpetrators, prevent history, drawing on the prevent learning review. this will identify whether there is further learning. examine improvements made to prevent since 2021, and identify any remaining gaps that require further improvement. lord anderson will complete the review within his term as interim commissioner, which will end with the appointment of a permanent commissioner in the summer of this year. but it is simply not enough to focus only on this case. we need to take an even more robust approach to identifying learning swiftly and driving that learning through the prevent system. the prevent commissioner will be tasked with overseeing a new approach to prevent learning reviews that
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enables rapid debriefing and urgent action after incidents, but also provides a clear framework that binds other agencies into the joint learning process. transparency and enabung process. transparency and enabling public scrutiny is also fundamental, and that is why we will take steps to publish the findings of other independent prevent learning reviews. where there has been an incident of national significance. so, madam deputy speaker, next week we will publish the prevent learning review into the appalling attack on sir david amess to enable further public scrutiny of this important programme. madam deputy speaker, the first duty of government is to ensure the security of our country and the safety of our people, because nothing matters more. and while we can never undo the hurt and pain caused by
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this unthinkably wretched attack, we can, we must, and we will do everything in our power to prevent further atrocities. as the prime minister said, southport must be a line in the sand for our country. if that means asking difficult questions about shortcomings or failings, so be it. if it means holding institutions and processes to account, we will do so without fear or favour. and if changes are required to protect the pubuc are required to protect the public and combat the threats that we face, then this government will not hesitate to act. i commend this statement to the house. >> hear, hear! >> hear, hear! >> shadow minister chris farrell. yeah. >> thank you, madam. >> thank you, madam. >> deputy speaker. >> deputy speaker. >> and can i thank the security minister for providing a copy of his statement so early and for providing a copy of the rapid learning review? i am grateful to him for his courtesy and consideration. let us keep in
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mind the three young, innocent victims of this savage attack. bebe king just six years old. elsie dot stancombe, seven and alice da silva aguiar nine. their lives were cruelly cut short at a taylor swift dance class. these young girls had their whole lives in front of them. lives they will now never lead. their parents and families will suffer forever. the unimaginable grief caused by their loss. i know they will be in the thoughts and prayers of every single member of this house. so, madam deputy speaker, it is vital, as the security minister has said, to learn the lessons. as i have said previously, i welcome and support the inquiry announced by the home secretary a couple of weeks ago. the security minister described it a moment ago as a pubuc described it a moment ago as a public inquiry. so can i firstly ask him to confirm that it will be a statutory inquiry under the inquiries act 2005? that is
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important so that it has powers to compel witnesses to attend, take evidence under oath and obtain documents. it is vital that we get to the truth about the opportunities which may have existed to stop rudakubana committing these sickening murders. so i am very pleased to hear the security minister say prevent thresholds are being reviewed. now. the lessons learned review at page 35 highlights a number of areas for further investigation. and the first of those is mental health interventions, which the security 1529 00:10:
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