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tv   Farage  GB News  February 5, 2025 7:00pm-8:01pm GMT

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>> good evening on farage tonight. well, they had many, many chances to stop the southport killer. and yet once again the prevent programme failed. what do we do.7 can again the prevent programme failed. what do we do? can we reform it or is it time to scrap it? local elections due on may the 1st this year. yet 5.5 million people are being denied their vote and talk in some quarters of people not even paying quarters of people not even paying their council tax. now, on the basis of no representation, no taxation without representation. really interesting to see where that one goes. and why is it different to burn a copy of the quran in the street, to burning a copy of the bible? all of that in a moment. but first, let's get the news with katie bowen. >> and nigel. thank you and good evening. the top stories at
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7:00, the governments counter—terrorism prevent programme prematurely closed cases into southport killer axel rudakubana. that's according to the prevent learning review published this afternoon, outlining the findings in the house of commons, security minister dan jarvis has told mps that the government has begun an internal review of the prevent thresholds and has accepted all 14 recommendations for improvements in the prevent learning review. the review found that there were 15 contact points between rudakubana and pubuc points between rudakubana and public services, including prevent and the police. over the years. also today, the families of the three nottingham attack victims have demanded a full statutory inquiry, saying names must be named after an independent review has revealed killer valdo calocane fear of needles prevented him from taking anti—psychotic medication before the killings. barnaby webber, grace o'malley—kumar and ian coates were murdered in the summer of 2023 by calocane. health secretary wes streeting
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says it's clear there were failings in how the care provided to calocane was managed at every level. grace's father, doctor sanjoy kumar, says for the loss of our beautiful, brave daughter grace, there must be change. barnaby webber's mother has called for a meeting with the prime minister. elsewhere today, the prime minister locked heads with kemi badenoch in prime minister's questions this lunchtime over the chagos islands deal. the conservative party leader challenged sir keir starmer on the money being spent, accusing labour of spending money that belongs to our children and their children, labelling it an immoral surrender. the prime minister hit back by arguing that legal certainty was needed over the status of the islands and the strategically important diego garcia military base. metropolitan police sources have told gb news that no action will be taken over allegations that sir keir starmer broke covid lockdown rules in 2020 by meeting with a voice coach. a metropolitan police spokesman said in a statement the specific
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legislation that would be used by police forces dealing with alleged offences during covid has a three year deadline for initiating proceedings, as this alleged incident falls outside of this time frame, no action will be taken, just a brief breaking line coming out of the white house this evening. us president donald trump has not committed to putting us troops on the ground in gaza as part of his proposal for a us takeover of the region. president trump said during a meeting with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu yesterday that he wants the us to take over gaza and turn it into the riviera of the middle east. the white house press secretary, karoline leavitt, said a short time ago in a press conference that that does not mean boots on the ground in gaza . and finally, his ground in gaza. and finally, his majesty the king has visited the poush majesty the king has visited the polish social and cultural association today, viewing a newly opened art exhibition and attending a reception with members of the polish community in the uk. his visit comes
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exactly one year on since his cancer diagnosis was announced by buckingham palace. during the reception, his majesty heard from staff, volunteers and community members about the centre's significance and its vital work in strengthening the poush vital work in strengthening the polish community. those are the latest gb news headlines. now let's go back to nigel. >> for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone. sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com/alerts. >> a statement this afternoon in the house of commons by the security minister, dan jarvis. let's just listen to what he has to say before we try to dissect it. >> the review concluded that too much focus was placed on the absence of a distinct ideology, to the detriment of considering the perpetrators susceptibility,
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grievances and complex needs. there was an under exploration of the significance of his repeat referrals and the cumulative risk, including his history of violence. >> well, of course, this is all about axel rudakubana, the triple murderer from southport. and i think that the way the security minister put it in that clip is frankly, a massive understatement. i mean, have a think about this. he'd already discussed the manchester arena bombing and stabbing people when prevent decided to end its involvement with him. we also learn from the report that his name was misspelt, which meant perhaps the leads around him had not been followed up sufficiently, and maybe you could forgive it if it was this just this one time. but it's not because a very similar thing happened, of course, when it came to the murder of that very popular conservative member of parliament, david amess. is this just part, once again of broken
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britain, where the institutions simply don't work and need radical reform? is there something that can be done to save it? i don't know, but i just can't even begin to imagine how some of those parents must feel if they're watching the news tonight and seeing the total failings of an organisation set up to try and prevent these sort of appalling murders. now i'm joined down the line by kevin jul, former home office security and counter—terrorism adviser. kevin, are you there? he's not there. right? i'm going to go to tom pursglove, former conservative member of parliament, former minister for legal, migration, immigration and significantly, crime and policing . now. tom, no one policing. now. tom, no one doubts that everybody that works in prevent intends to do a good job, intends to put a track on those that might prevent a
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threat. but it does. you know, i mentioned david amess, someone that you knew very well. the prevent programme completely failed. this is i mean, this is just extraordinary, even down to his name being spelled incorrectly on the prevent database. i mean, this is horrific. >> horrific. absolutely. and i, on this channel a few weeks ago described this as state failure. and that's precisely what it is. i don't actually think that the language that's been used today in describing the situation really lives up to the reality that we're dealing with here. >> i made that point. dan jarvis was completely understated in the house of commons. >> and you know, when you look at this case, it is clear to me that on a multi—agency front, there was a failure to grip this issue.i there was a failure to grip this issue. i actually would argue that they were safeguarding considerations that ought to have come into this. when it comes to axel rudakubana, beanng comes to axel rudakubana, bearing in mind that he was a child, while much of this was
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going on. and that poses some really, really serious questions. >> first, refer to age 13. >> first, refer to age 13. >> that is a terrifying reality, isn't it? and various parts of government, both local and national, should have been stepping in to intervene to make sure that there were proper safeguarding wraparounds put in place to deal with this. and i just don't think anything that has been announced today in terms of these new types of orders, which talk about things like community service, get anywhere near reaching the sort of extreme nature of the sorts of extreme nature of the sorts of incidents and issues that we're dealing with here. this is radicalisation, and the prevent programme has clearly failed in this instance, and i hope that lord anderson of ipswich will look at this in a really thorough going way. you've been very. >> you've been a home office minister, right? i mean, the phrase not fit for purpose, home office has been around now for almost 20 years. clearly, in terms of its purview and looking
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at prevent , the argument that at prevent, the argument that it's not fit for purpose is it's still valid. >> on this. absolutely, definitively valid. and it's impossible not to conclude that, isn't it? because look at what has happened. these young children have lost their lives in the most horrific way. >> imaginable, and many others very, very seriously with life changing injuries. >> this must never happen again. >> this must never happen again. >> i am now joined down the line, i promise you. by kevin jul, former home office security and counterterrorism adviser. kevin, we were just saying that, you know, for 20 years there have been descriptions of the home office and those under its purview as being home
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