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>> there are some glimmers of sunshine amongst the clouds today. join me later to find out if you're likely to see any of them. >> well, it's just gone 6:00. i'm anne diamond. >> i'm adam cherry, and this is gb news breakfast. >> yeah, there's a lot of interesting stories about today. i mean, this this story about the mp. well, he was a minister, wasn't he? >> he was a health minister. >> he was a health minister. >> gwen who? who was in a whatsapp group and said some very unsavoury things on the whatsapp group. but to a certain extent, do you expect privacy in a whatsapp group? >> it's interesting. what do you think about about that? because on the one hand, i do think i reckon what 80 to 90% of the people watching, they might have said something somewhere on a whatsapp group and maybe that's a little bit high, but we could

we could all get caught out by this to a certain extent. >> you can, but don't. there's no such thing as privacy, adam. if it's 20 people on the whatsapp group, how can you possibly do that? >> and if you're an mp and there are other mps and councillors in there as well. >> i worked with somebody. >> i worked with somebody. >> somebody on that whatsapp group leaked it to the mail on sunday. yeah. and they are horrid things are being said. really quite nasty things for it, especially for an mp and a minister. i mean, what was he thinking? >> i had a colleague who fell foul of this maybe ten years ago. and it was a it was it was ago. and it was a it was it was a comment he'd made on facebook. and he said, yeah, but facebook's private, you know, it's different. and i said, mate, you've got a thousand friends. how can it possibly be private? >> a thousand of your closest friends? >> well, one of the things that happens when you're trained as a journalist is, is you learn about what they call essential law for journalists. >> mcnay. >> mcnay. >> yeah, absolutely. >> yeah, absolutely. >> there's a copy of it, i just. >> yeah. it is a bible to journalists because all young journalists because all young journalists are taught that almost first thing. and you know that the minute you say anything

really to more than one person and even maybe to one person, you have published that information, you've published it. >> more so in the digital age. sorry, more so in the digital age. >> yes, absolutely. completely. people think that when they put something on their twitter account or whatever, that they're entitled, but you should be checking it legally before you put it up there. >> of course it's public. it's in the public domain, isn't it? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and he's not coming back now. that's it, i think. >> yeah. i don't see how he can. well he's apologised for what he said. we'll go into it a bit later. but he's apologised for what he said and he's been sacked. and he's been his membership of the labour party has been suspended. >> it has. yeah. >> it has. yeah. >> have they removed the whip. because that's the only. >> thing that has the whip. so i'm just going to clarify that in a second. it's a different process. you can be a member of the labour party and not have the labour party and not have the labour party and not have the labour whip in parliament or vice versa. they are actually separate. but he has definitely had his membership of the labour party suspended. should we just get.

>> into that? let's get into that because the prime minister has sacked him basically. so he moved quickly over those offensive comments that he is reported to have made in that whatsapp group. >> as i said, he's also been suspended as a member of the labour party, and he has actually apologised since for what he called, quote, badly misjudged comments. >> now, all of this follows an expose by the mail on sunday, in which he is reported to have made a litany of really horrible comments, some of them deeply offensive. >> yeah, some anti—semitic, as well as saying he hoped non—labour voting pensioner would die before the next election. it's pretty grisly stuff. >> isn't it? it's also reported he attacked members within his own party, including making racist slights about the labour mp diane abbott, diane abbott, mother of the house, and sexist comments towards the deputy prime minister, angela rayner. so it's really, he should have thought before he said anything, even if he thinks it. but actually, maybe you don't even want a minister who thinks those

things. anyway, in response, a government spokesperson has said we better read this out. the prime minister is determined to uphold high standards of conduct in public office and lead a government in the service of working people. he will not hesitate to take action against any minister who fails to meet those standards, as he has in this case. >> well, let's get the thoughts of the former mayor of middlesbrough, andy preston. andy, thank you for joining middlesbrough, andy preston. andy, thank you forjoining us andy, thank you for joining us live on gb news. i suppose the first question is should he expect or should? should andrew gwynne have expected a level of privacy here, or is everything you write as a member of parliament, a politician in the pubuc parliament, a politician in the public domain, and he's sort of got what was coming to him. >> morning, adam. morning, everyone. hi. categorically, andrew gwynne should not have expected a scintilla, a hint of privacy when you put something on whatsapp to a group, even if it's private with one friend, you have to assume that that might be disseminated in some way, often without ill intent.

but once it gets 2 or 3 people beyond your initial correspondence, it can go anywhere. i mean, these things he said, were genuinely horrible, weren't they? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i think in his if i was trying to defend him, i think i would say that it was years ago. literally some of them, i think, go back to 2019 and i would say that actually he was joking, which i suspect he probably was, but it's a wake up call to all of us that he said some horrible things. it's cost him his job. things. it's cost him hisjob. i can't see how he comes back, but he's really damaged the government on this. i'll i'll stop talking because i've given you a very long answer. but the government's very much damaged over this. >> i think some people will, though, be wondering where how far do we police people's jokes or just, you far do we police people's jokes orjust, you know, off hand or just, you know, off hand comments? because, you know, there's always been this joke, isn't there, that doctors, when they're in their own room together, you know, surgeons and people, they're quite rude about

their patients to people. it's sort of, i don't know, a sort of gallows humour, isn't it? when does gallows humour? i mean, have we gone too far in wanting to police everything people say, even if it's just offhand comments? >> morning, anne. it's really interesting that you talk about doctors and their private discussions, and sometimes they're not private, are they? they get caught out, actually in a paperwork version of this where they, they off a patient or say really offensive things and it ends up coming back, doesn't it? and people find out. so it's a reminder to all of us. i think that the problem for all of us politicians, doctors and members of the public is that there aren't any set rules. so there aren't any set rules. so the boundaries are interpretable, and that's where people get caught out. i was going to mention earlier that for labour, you know, this is a big issue. now keir starmer at the moment seems quite distant to this. but this is one of a range of issues as well as the economic issues we've got. there's a sense of pessimism out there. we've got tulip siddiq

under investigation relating to corruption. we've got the runcorn mp with the violence where he punched somebody. louise hague resigned for fraud. and now we've got these really offensive, stupid comments that aren't funny and will cause a significant offence. these are mounting up. and i think what's interesting is they're adding to a sense of chaos just eight months into a new government. so it's 1547 00:08:2