morning and welcome to >> good morning and welcome to the camilla tominey show here on gb news. very busy news agenda today, so we're going to be getting through a lot over the next 90 minutes. i'm going to be joined by the trade and business secretary, jonathan reynolds. i'm going to be asking him why so many businesses are struggling and what the government is going to do to help them. i'm also going to be joined by tony abbott, the former prime minister of australia. he's going to be in the studio. i'm going to be asking him about that extraordinary munich speech by us vice president jd vance. have the americans thrown the ukrainians under a russian bus.7 how ukrainians under a russian bus? how does he think the right can be united in britain? shadow defence secretary james cartlidge joins me to discuss the security situation in europe. the tories plans for future defence spending and what he makes of trump's call with putin. i'll then be joined by small business owners james blackshaw and nick evans to discuss the impact of the budget. they work in hospitality

andifs budget. they work in hospitality and it's been very, very bad news for that industry. and as the ceasefire deal teeters on the ceasefire deal teeters on the brink between hamas and israel, i'm going to be speaking to amjad taha, a leading political strategist and analyst from the uae, who will give his insights into the middle east and why it matters for us here in the uk. as i say, we have got an absolutely cracking 90 minutes of punchy politics lined up for you this morning, so do not even think of going anywhere. but first with me now to review the sunday front pages is former mep and political commentator patrick o'flynn. patrick. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> quite a set of papers this morning. >> yes. last week, sort of first contact between the european political elite and donald trump's senior people, including jd vance, has just is a giant

rock has been dropped into the to the pond and there are waves everywhere. >> so let's start with the observer front page because it kind of encapsulates where we are now. we've got starmer now heading out to paris to attend a summit of european leaders convened by emmanuel macron. >> yes. so clearly they didn't see this coming, >> yes. so clearly they didn't see this coming , despite loads see this coming, despite loads of briefings about trump was going to go very hard in his first 100 days. so president macron is keen to be seen, you know, restoring some of the grandeur of his office as one of the key european defence players. so he's setting up a an emergency summit really tomorrow in paris. we expect keir starmer to attend and germany's chancellor schultz and other european leaders. but but to me the danger of this summit is it's just going to be a vague talking shop. i mean, i mean, the reality is that europe has got itself into a situation on defence and the technological end of defence as well, where

even if it if it if it wanted to and there was the political capital to do so, it couldn't really sustain ukraine in military operations without american input. it's not going to be there anymore. so the dangen >> is frozen out of this. >> is frozen out of this. >> whole thing. >> whole thing. >> because of their own indecision and inability to spend more money on armament. >> yes. the habitual dependency on america. now, we're partly guilty of that in, in britain. but we've been spending more than a lot of the other countries. i mean, germany as the industrial powerhouse, richest nation, you know, most populous nation has been under spending on defence for sort of ideological reasons, like we don't really trust ourselves with an army and stuff like that. as i say, i hope keir starmer, as a major military player by european terms, which is fairly low bar, but yeah, i hope he, he, he, he drives a bit of a hard bargain. if you want

our cooperation on this stuff, stop treating us like a pariah or on the naughty step about things like, you know, trade barriers within europe and get over the fact that we left the eu. i can't see him, him, him doing that. but as i say, the dangeris doing that. but as i say, the danger is at the end of monday, there's a waffly communique and it doesn't really deal with anything, and it just advertises the weakness of the european nations. and i think the next quite short order, 18 months or so defence spending in all these countries, which all have public finances, which are pretty shot to pieces, yes, they are going to pieces, yes, they are going to have to take some really, really tough decisions about what to axe to money what to axe to create more money for defence. >> we're going to get on to jd vance a bit more a little later, but let's just look at this telegraph but let's just look at this tel> yeah. >> yeah. >> chagos obscene.

interests. absolutely obscene. >> and the other thing is mauritius is entire gdp, i believe is about £12 billion a yeah believe is about £12 billion a year. so even if we're dealing with, say, an early payment of 1 billion, i mean, that's enormous money in mauritius terms, how many other politicians are going to end up with suitcases of cash in their. attics paid for by us? >> any money we spend isn't then caught up in some criminal scam that then reflects badly on us. the whole thing is a mess. i'll be putting it to jonathan reynolds, the business secretary, in about 15 or so

minutes time. let's move on to just the jd vance speech. him saying in munich, basically, you know, that part of the reason why this has happened is not just because of the europeans not committing as much spending to defence, but just the europeans generally adopting this anti—western woke agenda. he blames britain particularly. i mean, what did you think about the speech? because on one hand i'm like, yeah, i completely get your point, vice president, but i'm not sure it's a good idea to start criticising other western nafionsin start criticising other western nations in a summit for western nafions nations in a summit for western nations trying to talk about aggression from russia, china and iran. >> well, i didn't really bristle at that. i just thought it was a great speech. it's a real game changing speech, in my view, and it sums up the feelings of millions and millions of people across europe. he didn't just criticise britain. he also specifically mentioned germany and terror attacks by failed asylum seekers who never leave. i know there's been another terror attack in in austria next doon terror attack in in austria next door. in terms of us, he went

very much on the freedom of speech and expression. and the sunday telegraph has got an article about the number of people getting prosecuted, either for alleged threatening communications or misleading, i.e. fake news ones under the online. i think it's the online safety legislation. >> absolute waste of police time. >> and it all links into things like the non—crime hate incidents that allison pearson. >> got shoplifters going free. yeah, costing grocers and other shopkeepers thousands of pounds. yeah. nothing happens. there was a story last week about a man who literally identified his own burglar, took the details to the police. they didn't investigate yet. our thoughts are being policed on a regular basis. >> absolutely. and we're now braced for new islamophobia definitions and blasphemy penalties. yeah, absolutely. >> moderate muslims actually been very vocal in their condemnation. absolutely. it will just allow fundamentalists

and segregationists to prosper, complete madness. but also, i just thought i'd pick out that story in the sunday times about scientists weighing the musk problem. this is scientists at the royal society saying that they want to get rid of musk as a. fellow fellow, because they feel that he's too divisive. now he's backing trump, and he has been critical of other scientists, including anthony fauci. well, hang on a moment back in covid because the telegraph covered all this, scientists literally tried to cancel other scientists that were covid sceptic, that were lockdown sceptic. nobody said anything about that. this is a classic example of infringement of free speech. musk is surely there because he's a scientific pioneer and inventor. >> yes, i think the genesis of this clear effort to cancel elon musk is a letter signed by more than 2000 scientists worldwide, and their number one gripe is actually his department of government efficiency work

withdrawing funding for a certain scientific scheme. so it's a vested interest response really. clearly it's laced with with politics because they disapprove of his overall political leanings. i know that the president of the royal society has written a sort of be careful message to their members about. i think he's called adrian smith about the difficult ground will be on if we start taking a view on the affiliate political affiliation. >> people sign a letter is probably the silent majority, is perfectly happy with musk's