president has ukraine's president has repeatedly said he will not accept a deal brokered between the us and russia without ukraine at the table. european governments fear a deal struck between the white house and the kremlin could damage security on the continent. meanwhile, there are reports the prime minister is preparing to overrule his chancellor, rachel reeves, and raise british defence spending from 2.3 to 2.5% of gdp. the prime minister has said it's a once in a generation moment for the uk, us and europe to work together. a stabbing in austria that killed a 14 year old boy and wounded five other people yesterday was an islamist attack. that's according to local police. authorities say the 23 year old suspect, who has not been named, is a syrian national with legal residence in austria who has sworn allegiance to islamic state and was radicalised online. he's been living in a centre for asylum seekers and was not known to authorities. the attack took

place in the southern city of villach, near the border with slovenia and italy. three of those injured remain in intensive care. the fbi and the us department of justice have joined the investigation into the southport killer. axel rudakubana. in a joint statement, merseyside police and the crown prosecution service say they're working in tandem to obtain material which may be relevant. it's understood investigators hope to recover deleted searches from rudakubana, google and microsoft accounts within weeks. rudakubana was jailed for a minimum of 52 years in january for murdering three young girls and attempting to murder eight others in a knife attack at a taylor swift themed dance class. the landlady of a pub where a woman was fatally shot on valentine's day has described heanng valentine's day has described hearing two loud bangs, which sounded like fireworks. and michelle thomas, who runs the three horseshoes pub in knockholt, has described

customers shouting and crying when they realised what was happening. a woman, aged in her 40s, died at the scene after a shooting in the car park of the pub. a police who found a car and a gun on a bridge crossing the river thames, believe the suspect may have entered the water , and awards are being water, and awards are being handed out right now at the baftas, the biggest night in british cinema. it's all taking place at the royal festival hall on the south bank. felicity jones is up for the best supporting actress award for her role in the brutalist. vanessa kirby, a former bafta winner herself is in attendance, as are demi moore, ariana grande and pamela anderson. simon pegg is there. the mission impossible star and the musical amelia perez has 11 nominations this yean perez has 11 nominations this year, and the brutalist it's up for nine, along with best actor adrien brody. but conclave leads the way. there's adrien brody up for the best actor award, but

conclave leads the way. it's the papal drama. it has 12 nominations, including ralph fiennes for best actor. >> some wonderful films here. yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. i mean, ’— yeah, yeah, yeah. i mean, i love amelia perez and nora and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. i mean, i love amelia perez and nora and the brutalists and wonderfully the brutalists and wonderfully strong films. it's a good time strong films. it's a good time to celebrate. we need to to celebrate. we need to celebrate these films and these celebrate these films and these filmmakers. filmmakers. >> the awards have been handed >> the awards have been handed out. i'll keep you up to date out. i'll keep you up to date with those a little bit later with those a little bit later this evening. now it's back to this evening. now it's back to free speech nation. >> for the very latest gb news, free speech nation. >> for the very latest gb news, direct your smartphone. sign up direct your smartphone. sign up to news alerts by scanning the to news alerts by scanning the qr code , or go to. qr code , or go to. qr code, or go to. qr code, or go to. gbnews.com/alerts. gbnews.com/alerts. >> james matthewson. >> james matthewson. >> james matthewson. >> welcome to free speech nation >> james matthewson. >> welcome to free speech nation with me josh howie. this is the with me josh howie. this is the show where we take a look across show where we take a look across the spectrum of culture, current the spectrum of culture, current affairs and politics and try and affairs and politics and try and reintroduce some common sense to reintroduce some common sense to

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reintroduce some common sense to them that.ing up reintroduce some common sense to them that. how1p reintroduce some common sense to think about this? >> i tthat.:hey should 7 h 77 think about this? >> i tthat. howshould 7 h 77 think about this? them that. how are you >> i tthat. how are|ld think about this? >> i tthat. how are you doing, about that. how are you doing, nick? you all right? about that. how are you doing, nick? you all right? >> i'm great. my train was >> i'm great. my train was delayed. i was i'm angry, i was. delayed. i was i'm angry, i was. it's just london. everything's it's just london. everything's broken. i was stabbed on the broken. i was stabbed on the way. suffered a couple of way. suffered a couple of terrorist attacks, and i was terrorist attacks, and i was misgendered once, so i'm quite. misgendered once, so i'm quite. i'm quite worked up. i'm quite worked up. >> but you're here. >> but you're here. >> but you're here. >> i'm here anyway. >> but you're here. >> i'm here anyway. >> i'm here anyway. >> that's what. that's >> i'm here anyway. >> that's what. that's brilliant. well, thank you so brilliant. well, thank you so much for coming here. let's hear much for coming here. let's hear what our audience have. let's what our audience have. let's have some questions. our first have some questions. our first question is from melania. hello, question is from melania. hello, melania. >> good evening. >> good evening. melania. >> good evening. >> good evening. >> is it a name? >> is it a name? >> yes, it's my real name. is >> yes, it's my real name. is complimenting a disabled person complimenting a disabled person microaggression? microaggression? >> yeah, it's complimenting a disabled person. >> yeah, it's complimenting a disabled person. microaggression. so an nhs trust microaggression. so an nhs trust has said that telling a disabled has said that telling a disabled person they are inspiring is a person they are inspiring is a microaggression. warning doctors microaggression. warning doctors against using stereotypes. the against using stereotypes. the gloucestershire hospitals nhs gloucestershire hospitals nhs foundation trust. inclusive foundation trust. inclusive language guide also advises language guide also advises avoiding traditional titles like avoiding traditional titles like mr and mrs, and discourages mr and mrs, and discourages phrases like the blind leading phrases like the blind leading the blind, which is a shame the blind, which is a shame because it's pretty apt for this because it's pretty apt for this document. melody, what do you document. melody, what do you think about this? think about this?

>> i think they should >> i think they should be grateful for any compliment. >> okay. wow. that's that's a that's a pretty strong take that. now, are you talking about disabled people or just humans disabled people orjust humans in general? >> disabled. >> disabled. >> wow. this is very. >> wow. this is very. >> he gave you a get out and you didn't take it. well, you really. >> this is. i'm just hearing in my ear. get away from her quickly, melania. of course you have braces. >> coming off tomorrow. >> coming off tomorrow. >> you are mentally disabled. yes, about the. >> to be fair, men want any compliment. men have never had any compliments. right? so if i was called inspiring, as i often am, i would love it and do love it when it happens every day. but isn't that true? we never get any compliments. >> yeah. yes, well, i'm a gay icon, so i do get a lot of gay. oh. that's true. i get a lot of compliments. what do you think about this? is it a microaggression to say how inspiring somebody is? >> it is. but what's wrong with a few microaggressions here and there? you know, like, it's annoying, it's annoying and it's patronising, but we deal with

that all the time, and you have to suck it up, you know? i mean, how many times will somebody say to you, especially as a woman, you're so brave, you're so brave. i want to kill them. but it's not illegal yet, so i have to just. we have. >> to kill them. >> to kill them. >> illegal. okay. >> illegal. okay. >> just to clarify. >> just to clarify. >> i mean, you're a christian, nick, so. jesus, i imagined he was being very complimentary to lepers. he was like, oh, well done. well done with your leper business. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i think they were like, don't, don't you dare call me that. i'm, you. >> know, i don't think he. did he call him inspiring? i'm not sure he did. he just he just got the job done and moved on, probably to another miracle. but i think it is like aidan said, it's a little bit patronising. but what? they're also in the same guy, they want to get rid of mr and mrs. and all this. so it is another woke nonsense. guide toby young was saying they don't haven't they got the memo that we've moved on but we haven't moved on. as one youtuber said we are still in woke north korea in britain, don't you think? we're just sort of where where the last holdouts where like the japanese soldiers

still fighting, it's ended in america, but we're still producing these nonsense guides. >> well, it's an interesting point in that the argument maybe has been won at some level, but these institutions are still heavily captured. and this. >> stuff, the memory remains. yes. that's a song, isn't it? who's that? but the memory remains. that wasn't take. >> that, take that. right. our next question is from georgia. >> oh, human beings like us. >> oh, human beings like us. >> are human beings. llamas. thank you. yes, because i've always wondered myself. yeah. so this is labour's new health minister. ashley dalton has faced backlash for claiming people can identify as llamas and insisting that same sex only toilets should be banned. dalton has also made controversial statements on gender, including saying that anyone with a willy can be a woman, and has sparked criticism from both within and outside her party for her views on gender identity. what do you think about this, georgia? do you think that? i mean, have you met a llama? have they spoken to you before? >> you know, i haven't hadn't really come across any cuz of llamas in the ladies toilets, but. >> you might have without

knowing it because i. >> identified as llama. no, i just think that these are really woolly concepts invented by the right llamas in government. the llamas in government? yeah, i'm sure they can believe that. they're all right. llamas, actually. >> nice. yeah. we don't need we don't need jokes. >> no, i mean, someone's going. >> no, i mean, someone's going. >> that's the joke. it'll happen on the whole show. did she? when asked if people could identify asked if people could identify as llamas, this dalton person said yes, and they should be treated with dignity and respect. quite hard to respect someone who thinks they're a llama. i hate to sound old fashioned, am i not you guys looking at me blankly? is that not right? are you guys on board with this llama thing? it's a bit mental. >> well, it's more than the llama aideen. you've got a health minister. someone who is actually advocating to make us all healthier, yet pushing what i would say is obviously extreme mental health. i think that we should. >> be alarmed by this. alarmed i was inspired. yeah. it's i mean, iused was inspired. yeah. it's i mean, i used to identify as a cat. i'm sure a lot of us did when we were small. we didn't have a pet. so i used to pretend to be

a cat and my sisters would hug me. now that i say it, it sounds very creepy, but you know this. >> there wasn't much to do in ireland at the time. >> very little to do. you're right. yeah, we didn't even have tv. so i mean,

right. yeah, we didn't even have tv. sothis,3an, right. yeah, we didn't even have tv. sothis, chris? what do you about this, chris? what do you think about this? >> i'm not sure what i think about this one bit easier. >> if you said you didn't like it. >> well, i'm not i genuinely am not sure i can understand why >> well, i'm not i genuinely am not sure i can understand why they might want to be inclusive, they might want to be inclusive, but shouldn't it be? shouldn't but shouldn't it be? shouldn't churches be inviting to everyone churches be inviting to everyone automatically? shouldn't it go automatically? shouldn't it go without saying? without saying? >> very interesting. well, nick, >> very interesting. well, nick, i mean, this is just one flag i mean, this is just one flag inclusiveness. i like i like inclusiveness. i like i like inclusiveness, but why this one inclusiveness, but why this one flag? why not every single flag flag? why not every single flag in the world, right? in the world, right? >> because it's exclusive. there >> because it's exclusive. there was a. i forgot his name. he was a. i forgot his name. he made a very good point. he said made a very good point. he said this is a violation of canon law this is a violation of canon law for two reasons. first, this is for two reasons. first, this is not inclusive but exclusive. it because am not inclusive but exclusive. it excludes people who do not excludes people who do not accept the false claims of accept the false claims of transgender ideology. second, it transgender ideology. second, it distorts and misrepresents the distorts and misrepresents the purpose of the communion table, purpose of the communion table, which is inherently inclusive, which is inherently inclusive, and it invites all to share in and it invites all to share in and it invites all to share in and receive the gifts of bread and it invites all to share in and receive the gifts of bread and receive the gifts of bread and receive the gifts of bread and wine, which remind us all and wine, which remind us all that jesus died for all. so the that jesus died for all. so the point is, it's not inclusive. point is, it's not inclusive. it's the total. it's the total. >> we've got a photo of it now. >> we've got a photo of it now. yeah. and of course, this is the yeah. and of course, this is the new pride flag which is includes new pride flag which is includes circles. >> and why is a church doing circles. >> and why is a church doing this? the answer actually is this? the answer actually is

because we have this thing. we have the total state, as oren mcintyre puts it, whereby every institution, public and private, has to fall in line with the prevailing ideology. and at the moment that's wokeness. so even the church, which shouldn't be doing any of this stuff, falls in line with that ideology. the good news is we've seen from trump how quickly it can change. if it changes, you'll suddenly see maga hats and stuff in the church instead. it'll all change very, very quickly. hulk hogan will be in there, and they're just following the prevailing ideology, which is still for now, hanging around, which is wokeness. >> it's interesting that you almost have two holy systems in play almost have two holy systems in play here. you have the church and you have the lgbtq+ ideology as well. and which one? actually, they both take faith. >> well, i yeah, i suppose they are both things that may not exist, but i think it's nice. why not have it the odd time? the church is inclusive and you know, if you don't agree with it, just say a prayer for patience and tolerance is the key. i mean, jesus, he hung around with people that were not acceptable in his time. tax collectors. i suppose you could

call them sex workers, you know. >> so do you really believe or are you just sort of playing the woke role? >> no, i do, i wouldn't say if was. >> in the woke role. >> in the woke role. >> if i was, if i was going to a church and was there every week and was there on the altar all the time, i wouldn't like it. but why not for pride week or every so often have it to show inclusivity? i do think so. as a as a catholic, i think so catholic. >> you want that in the church? it's insane. >> yeah, we won't be able to hear you, but

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welcome back to free speech nation. j.d. vance delivered a wake up call to europe on the retreat of free speech in a monumental speech at the munich security conference on friday. let's take a look. >> and what i worry about is the threat from within the retreat of europe from some of its most fundamental values , values fundamental values, values shared with the united states of america and britain and across europe. free speech, i fear, is in retreat. >> well, conservative leader kemi badenoch has echoed the us vice president's concerns as she urges britons to fight for free speech, which she says challenges dangerous orthodoxies and sparks change. meanwhile, the uk's online safety act has sparked civil liberty concerns, with nearly 300 charged for spreading fake news or sending

threatening communications. to discuss this, i am now joined by director of academy of ideas, baroness fox. welcome, baroness fox. or as i am privileged to call you, claire. >> yes. >> yes. >> you and everybody else. okay, baroness. >> oh, well, i don't feel so important anymore. so what did you make of that speech? it was. it was pretty monumental, right? >> it was probably the most important political speech of my lifetime. i think it will be studied in history books. it was stupendously the right message. and i think his his absolute emphasis that we concentrate on defending the west from things, but actually we've forgotten what europe is for. it seems to me to be so crucial. and the things that he emphasised were values of liberty and democracy. and one thing i'm sure that people who are watching gb news will really appreciate was that

emphasis on the idea that the demos, the public are not stupid. in fact, they're smart. and it's the wisdom of ordinary people that politicians are increasingly frightened of. and that's so key when we have any discussion on free speech, because it's always politicians trying to protect us from somebody else's speech, and they don't trust us at all. i did enjoy, by the way, the fact that he gave that speech to an audience who clapped him before he spoke and then sat in stony silence, they absolutely hated it. it was kind of, you know, eu commissars type. yeah. and of course, there's been a backlash by the very same people who don't understand what he was getting at. but i hope that that speech was a clarion call beyond the immediate audience and was heard by millions of people around the world and certainly will stir things up in this country. >> yeah, it's interesting to see the response in so many people on the traditional left who were sort of doing their usual, oh, it's all dog whistle and it's

all right wing. of course, he traditionally came from the left himself. donald trump used to be a democrat. and that's the point, isn't it, that the left or the far left has moved so far in one direction. of course, free speech is traditionally a left wing values. it's something that left wingers fought for. >> that's my tradition. and the truth of the matter is, is it's a kind of new form of identitarian left that i most objecting to. i mean, i still consider myself to be on the left, but the thing about jd vance is he's a kind of ohio working class lad who's made good, and he was able to cut through a lot of the nonsense that's spoken by these technocrats who have really tried to suppress our thoughts. but, you know, you gave the example of thoughts or speech. you gave the example of kemi badenoch has said that we have to actually actively fight for free speech. and that's a fair misinformation. but actually, it's proven t

heard that nearly 300 people heard that nearly 300 people have been prosecuted under the have been prosecuted under the online safety bill and the act online safety bill and the act as it is now, something which i as it is now, something which i spent hours and hours and hours spent hours and hours and hours of my life fighting against in of my life fighting against in the house of lords. and of the house of lords. and of course, kemi badenoch and the course, kemi badenoch and the tories led that piece of tories led that piece of legislation. and it's always the legislation. and it's always the same problem that you get into a same problem that you get into a situation whereby they brought situation whereby they brought it in under the headline. it was it in under the headline. it was about protecting children, but about protecting children, but actually it's adult rights that actually it's adult rights that have been really undermined by have been really undermined by it. and those 300 prosecutions it. and those 300 prosecutions for online speech have largely for online speech have largely concentrated on fake news, as concentrated on fake news, as you said, and malicious false you said, and malicious communication, it's called online. and then, you know, it's misinformation. i thought that jd vance was great when he called out something which was called out something which was called misinformation, which was the notion of a wuhan lab leak of covid. and that was described as russian inspired misinformation. but actually, it's proven to be accurate

changing rooms with a biological male and then suspended. we are going to talk about this actually later on the show, but also very interesting. i don't know if you saw today, but scottish daily express has now had a hate crime put against them for, for correctly identifying doctor upton as a male. they have made the policy and we by the way, we've talked about this many times on the show, but a lot of other newspapers will present some information and go woman in jail sentence, sentence for raping two kids or something. and then with a photo of a obvious male. >> yeah, i mean, i think so. there's the misinformation stuff. the other thing that that vance did, which was important, was he did give examples of other agregious attacks on freedom of speech from around europe. and one of the things that he talked about was an incident in sweden in which somebody has been sent to jail for burning a quran. yeah. and we know that that is something that's very present as a debate in the uk at the present time,

without going into the details. but the thing that was fascinating about the person who was sent to prison in sweden was that he burnt a quran in solidarity with his colleague, who, when burning a quran, had in fact been shot and murdered the week before. now i just want to make it clear i'm a free teacher. i personally do not think that burning books is a particularly savoury thing to do. i think it can be provocative, but do i think that you should a be put in prison for it, or b be shot for it and murder for it? no, i don't, and if you think of the consequences of these terrible cases, we can bnngin of these terrible cases, we can bring in blasphemy by the back doon bring in blasphemy by the back door. and i fear that's what's happening in the uk, by the way, because people say that if you offend somebody sensibilities, that that is a hate crime, that is a crime that should be prosecuted. and we've seen a lot of that happening. and i, i just want to remind everyone that this week as we speak and we've seen, you know, in new york,

salman rushdie's would be murderer who stabbed him viciously in his eye and his neck and his chest nearly killed him in court because he believed that a novel, a book, the words of salman rushdie, the writer, those words equated with action, with physical action. and i think the inability to be able to distinguish between somebody doing or saying something you object to and dislike, even burning a quran or burning any book, a bible or anything with actual physical harm is where i get very nervous. and the online safety bill actually equates psychological harm with physical harm. and that's where we get into very dangerous territory. >> well, exactly. because doctor upton argues that she that were to be there, how they identify. and then you have these competing rights, you have the rights for someone to say, i am actually a woman. i believe they believe biological woman, but we can talk about that later on in the show. but you've also got the show. but you've also got the right, of course, of muslims who will, you know to be. they

can be, of course, to be offended. this is their holy book. it's understandable. but there's always going to be these competing rights. we have the right in this country. we don't to blaspheme. yeah. >> and absolutely. and on the competing rights, i know it's been quite controversial that vance used the example of the person praying silently outside an abortion clinic as his example of an attack on on free speech in this country. and that's controversial in and of itself. and, and it's controversial because in some ways there has a competing rights part to it, which is, is that obviously women who want to access reproductive care, want to have an abortion, do not need to have an abortion, do not need to be going past a load of people shouting and screaming at them. >> or even people standing there. >> well, this is the point. i disagree. i agree with vance on this, but the reason i'm saying it is because these things are tncky it is because these things are tricky and we have to be grown up about it. i mean, when the bill was passed into law that introduced these buffer zones around abortion clinics, i at

the time argued that even though i'm pro abortion, pro women's rights don't like the kind of people who hang out outside abortion clinics. i think probably the guy who was silently praying was an activist who was kind of trying to be provocative. on the other hand, as a point of principle, i defend the right to stand outside anywhere and pray silently or do something which i think is a bit dodgy, or to say things right, if you actually turn that into physical harassment, then yes, that's a different crime, but it's the speech crime element. and to go back to speech, because i don't want to just get stuck on the speech part. what he was really calling for was that we rediscovered the heart of what it is that makes us a free society. i'm very aware that this is in the context of ukraine being thrown under the bus, arguably by the trump administration, with vance leading the way. and one of the reasons why i despise and hate russia so much is it's an authoritarian regime that marches into somebody else's

country and locks its own people up for what they say, what they read, and so on and so forth. and in order to defend and make a good case for why ukrainians sovereignty, but a free society and a free west is so essential, we must look to ourselves. and in that sense, i think we have been complacent about the erosion of rights and liberties in this country because on all sides, left and right, when somebody is being done over for a speech crime and you hate their politics, you kind of look their politics, you kind of look the other way. you get a bit, well, you know, i don't mind them. it's my mates. i don't want to be persecuted. i think we have to be consistent throughout. >> so very quickly, though, and i agree with exactly everything that you've said. do you think that you've said. do you think that that this has been a wake up call, this speech, this jd vance speech, do you think that there will be people in our government who will listen? >> so in the government. >> so in the government. >> i'm being optimistic here. >> i'm being optimistic here. >> there is a little bit of a trump vibe thing. i mean, you know, some of those executive orders. i mean, when he did the

executive order on women's sports, i mean, i actually stood up and cheered. i mean, you know, you kind of think, oh my god, donald trump, i can't stand donald trump. what am i doing? but i don't care as long as it's the right thing. so there's a little bit of a trump vibe. i think that it will cause some discomfort amongst the political establishment that he said the quiet bit out loud and that he said it in front of a global audience. so in that sense, i genuinely mean this. it will give succour to those of us who are fighting for free speech. it should give succour to free speech nation. you people participate in everybody who's watching tonight that actually we're not all going mad, that there is a sense in which this is a much bigger fight than the kind of each and every struggle that we face. but will the political leaders listen? no, i'm afraid we're going to need a fight on that one. >> all right, well, let's keep the fight going. thank you very much. the director of baroness fox, maybe one of the best fighters in the business. so we are going to have a little break now. but next on free speech

nation, should the faa face a legal threat over their pride, rainbow armband and laces campaign? don't go anywhere. >> i can't wait to get in that sea. >> lovely and warm. >> lovely and warm. >> just like the feeling of having great travel insurance. >> allclear travel insurance sponsors gb news travel destinations forecast. >> hello there! we've got rain for madeira over the next 24 hours. some stronger winds too, but much of the central med will be dry with some sunny spells we can see from monday. outbreaks of rain, strong winds 17 celsius in madeira, the canary islands generally dry, and much of western and central parts of the mediterranean, seeing some spells of sunshine unsettled further east towards greece and across to cyprus. thunderstorms outbreaks of showery rain. the outlook, though, is for plenty of sunny spells, temperatures in the high teens to low 20s. >> allclear travel sponsoi's sponsors gb news

>> it's all good. it's all good. >> it's all good. it's all good. >> football association is facing legal action over its rainbow laces campaign, which promotes lgbtq+ rights. human rights lawyer paul conrath sent a letter threatening to sue, arguing the campaign violates fa rules on political neutrality and clothing. mr conrath represents a newcastle united fan who was banned from matches after expressing gender critical views on social media. well, i'm now joined by that newcastle united fan, lindsey smith. welcome. patrick christys coming on. there she is. hello. hello, lizzy. how are you? >> i'm all right. i'm a bit full of calls to i'll have to forgive me, but otherwise. >> i'm good. well, i'm so happy you're not in the studio then.

so please. yeah, exactly. so first of all, for people, you have been on the show before. tell us about the previous case and what the situation with that is. >> well, basically 2023, i think it was like beginning of october, end of end of october, again in november, i got an email saying that my membership had been suspended because i was under investigation for a hate crime. this came from the football club, at which point i was incredibly befuddled, really, and i thought, this is quite serious. so i would have thought i would have at least known before a football club found out about such a serious allegation. i suppose a week of me going backwards and forwards with the police and the club, and then eventually i did get a visit from the police and i was pulled in for an interview under caution for a hate crime, where i was questioned over tweets that i posted. things like trans women are men. i was asked why i had the lgb and not the t—q and things like that, saying things about men and women's sport. you

know, obviously how i just point blank don't agree with it. you know, i'm all for them playing the sport, but create your own sporting category, you know, stop stop riding on the coattails of women i suppose. but yeah. and it's kind of gone on from there. they've dug their heels in about it. it's been well over a year now that, that we've been fighting it with them. but hopefully we're going to get somewhere in the next few months and, and get this thing into court and, and try and get this thing resolved. >> well that's it. it's the process. that's the torture, isn't it? rather than necessarily the verdict, they just keep you hanging. it keeps going. it's a blockage to just being able to live your life and certainly your life as a football fan. >> yeah. i mean, i think the biggest thing is, had i not been so fortunate as to find myself with the likes of harry miller, helping me, toby young, graham linehan, all these people like, i'm aware how many people probably go through this every day and don't find them self surrounded by such, such big voices to, to, you know, give,

give, you know, an audience to all of this i suppose. so i am really lucky in that sense. i think if i hadn't found myself with them, i'd be in this situation still, but i would be very much lost and unaware of what i'd be able to do about it, really. >> so it seems like a lot of other sporting boards, they've kind of woken up to the fact that men and women, believe it or not, are different and biologically different, and males have physical advantages. the fa seems to be really behind on all of this. >> yeah, it's quite a surprise as well. i mean, it's you don't see it at the professional level as well. like at the top tier professional level. you know it's funny, it seems to only be in the grassroots area where, you know, we're seeing women being pushed out of the game in, in replacement of a man who declares his gender identity as being a woman. you know, you've got women goalkeepers that are being kicked out of their position because there's a bloke who's six foot tall is decided

his name is brenda, and that, you know, because he can reach that top corner that little bit better. you've got women being being pushed out and losing their places and you know, for something that's that will be their passion. i mean, i play football once a week with, with my friends, you know, and i don't know what i'd do if suddenly i was just kicked out of there and told i wasn't allowed to do it anymore. >> yeah, well, let's have a little example. i don't know if you saw this thing. charlton athletic, did you see this new campaign? and it's about is it inclusion or is it indoctrination? let's have a little look at this clip. >> fantastic that charlton is dedicating a whole week to it's football versus homophobia activities. >> as someone who identifies as queen! >> as someone who identifies as queer, i form part of the lgbtqia plus community. >> everyone has the right to feel comfortable as themselves, and it means so much to us to be ianed and it means so much to us to be invited to saturday's game against bolton. whether you're a football fan or not, it should be a way to unite people. >> football for everyone. >> football for everyone. >> well, football for everyone, except for people who think that men and women are biologically

different, right. >> well, that's that's the biggest thing about it really. it's, it's. >> it's kind of been overtaken. the lgbt side of things has, has been forgotten. i mean, a comment i think i commented on this yesterday and i noticed in the background it had football versus homophobia, but yet they've chosen two of the most extreme ends of the q end of the acronym to actually represent homophobia instead of, you know, where are the regular lesbian, gay and bisexual people who, you know, don't play dress up every single day and things like that. you know, we just walk around and do what we're doing. but you know that i suppose that doesn't get as many eyes on it. like it did annoy me, if i'm honest, because it's not representative of gay people at all. it's queer theory, and queer theory is something i wholeheartedly reject, to be honest with you. >> yeah, the q and the plus, they're open ended categories and we don't really know what they're about. you know what we also saw? we saw two teenage girls who've been banned from the sport for a number of games

because they have called out men, biological men on the opposing team. that's not very inclusive or for women's football or doesn't promote it, does it? >> no. i mean, again, these are these are young girls who i think i think in the case as well, there's autism involved in it, you know. so and you're taught as a young woman, you know, to, to speak up when you don't feel comfortable, when you feel like something's wrong. but it seems to be apart from this, you know, like it's common sense, this person's this is a bearded man playing on a on a women's team. and all this girl did was, you know, ask, are you a man? and now she's been banned for like six games or something, which, you know, it's another thing i'm really pleased with free speech union have have their hands on, you know, because they're in the process of appealing it for that young girl. i was lucky enough to meet her a couple of weeks ago, when i was at an event with the free speech union, and she's really brave, to be fair. so.

>> yeah. and what about this campaign that's going on right now about the laces and the armband then? so is this a form of sort of compelled speech? >> i mean, yeah, i mean, it hits a couple of areas with me, this rainbow laces because for me, the rainbow, none of it represents me as a lesbian woman anymore. and i know a lot of lesbian and gay and bisexual people that don't feel like it represents them. because, as you saw with that charlton advert, their football versus homophobia. but there's nothing about gay people. it's queer theory and drag queens and trans and all of this. and it's not actually about sexuality anymore. so it's not actually inclusive to any of us at all. and if you have the audacity to speak out, you know, i do feel like as, as gay people, we're expected to just bounce along with it because we're part of the acronym. like, i get called a traitor all the time because i will not accept it. and if you want to call me a traitor, call me a traitor. that's fine. you know, it's. i've been called worse things, if i'm honest. but it's the other area it hits on

with me is. is the way that they're just forced this on everybody. like , i'm as well as everybody. like, i'm as well as being a lesbian woman, i am also a woman of faith. i am a christian woman. and i'm aware that even though i am a christian, there will be christians within my faith that that don't agree with the homosexual side of things. and that's that's their right. you know, if that if that's the way their faith leads and that's the way their faith leads them. but nobody should be forced to support this. and the problem for me is like players and fans and staff, you have to wear this. there's such a spotlight put on it that if you have the audacity to stand up and say no, or as mark gay did when he simply wrote, jesus loves you. and i've spoken on this before, jesus does love you. it doesn't matter whether you love jesus or not. jesus loves you. that is a thatis not. jesus loves you. that is a that is a perfectly valid comment. as a christian, what he is saying there he is letting everybody know about his love and yet he is threatened with sanctions. he has the media all over him and he's targeted by activists. and that for me is just wrong. because in the fa's

rules, you're not allowed to show political or religious leaning or anything like that, but in the next breath, they're going to make people support this ideological, political. it's been taken over by political activists as well. and yet we're all just supposed to accept that and go along with it? >> well, i would say it's. >> well, i would say it's. >> the hypocrisy. >> the hypocrisy. >> it is the hypocrisy. but i wouldn't say they're political activists as much as they have their ideological activists. it's just a different ideology that they're pushing. and also, i'd like to say there's also i believe i saw something today about a trainee referee, doctor david catlin, who has been banned because they found some old tweets where he talked about the biological difference between men and women. anyway, thank you so much for joining between men and women. anyway, thank you so much forjoining us and congratulations and keep on the good fight there. that's newcastle united fan lindsey smith. amazing. listen to that studio audience. so a spokesman said or spokesperson or spokeswoman we don't know. we believe that football should be for all. and we have supported the rainbow laces campaign for

over ten years, together with our partners and the leagues across english football, we have helped to promote this inclusive and voluntary campaign to provide allyship with the lgbtq+ community across all levels of our game. we do not consider the campaign to breach any of our rules. well, we'll see obviously, won't we? next on free speech nation victory for free speech. as the charity boss who cancelled for islamophobia wins his legal battle, he joins us in the studio. you do not want miss this. see you in a

>> kevin. >> kevin. >> welcome back to free speech nation, former trustee of the jewish national fund uk, gary mond , was disqualified by the mond, was disqualified by the charity commission in 2023 after his post, dating back to 2014, were deemed to be islamophobic. however, an appeal court has quashed the ruling, stating his right to free speech must be

upheld. the case is seen as a significant win for free speech, with the tribunal arguing social media activity did not qualify him as a charity trustee. the charities commission actions have sparked concerns over political influence in charity governance. i am now joined by the man himself, gary mond. >> gary thank you. thank you. first of all. >> congratulations for winning. i should point out straight away it cost you £60,000 of your own money to vindicate yourself. >> that's absolutely right. i'm hoping to look this coming week as to whether i can reclaim some or all of it. i'm not certain i will be able to. >> wow. so take us back to the beginning. when were you told about this case? >> in july 2023, i received a letter from the charity commission where they proposed they were going to disqualify me from being a charity trustee for three years. they gave five examples of social media posts. two of them were likes from an american anti—islamist activist called pamela geller. the posts

themselves weren't particularly controversial, but pamela geller had been disqualified from coming to the uk by in 2013 by by in 2013 coming to the uk by in 2013 by theresa may when she was home theresa may when she was home secretary. >> not even the content of the secretary. >> not even the content of the post, it's just the association post, it's just the association of the person. >> exactly right, exactly right. of the person. >> exactly right, exactly right. then there was an angela rayner then there was an angela rayner related post, which was in 2021 related post, which was in 2021 when sir david amess was when sir david amess was murdered, and i wrote that murdered, and i wrote that angela rayner still has not angela rayner still has not apologised yet for calling apologised yet for calling tories scum. and it's comments tories scum. and it's comments like that that can ultimately like that that can ultimately lead to events like the murder lead to events like the murder of sir david amess. to be fair of sir david amess. to be fair to angela rayner, she did to angela rayner, she did actually later apologise. but as actually later apologise. but as far as the charity commission far as the charity commission were concerned, it was a grounds were concerned, it was a grounds for banning me. and then there for banning me. and then there were two other posts from 2014 were two other posts from 2014 and 2016, one of which related and 2016, one of which related to the bataclan massacre, where to the bataclan massacre, where 150 innocent people were 150 innocent people were murdered by three islamic murdered by three islamic terrorists. and i called them terrorists. and i called them evil bastards, and also said evil bastards, and also said that this led to us being at war that this led to us being at war effectively with islam. and then effectively with islam. and then the last one goes back to 2014, the last one goes back to 2014, when we had a labour mp who when we had a labour mp who

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that's where we could see a touch of frost developing to start monday morning, but to start monday morning, but to start monday morning across much of scotland actually is a largely dry start out there. we'll even see some sunshine across northern parts of scotland to start the day, but across orkney there are some showers moving through out towards the west. that's where we have some showery outbreaks of rain that could turn wintry over the hills across northern ireland. cloudy to start the day and across much of england and wales, but there are some brighter breaks developing, especially across the south—east of england through monday morning. so as we head through the day then we should see some glimmers of sunshine coming into southeastern parts of england through the day, often cloudy out towards the west, with still a feed of showers across parts of orkney before more persistent rain comes into northern ireland later on in the day. otherwise, it is still chilly out there, especially in the east underneath the cloud but out towards the west. temperatures up to 8 or 10 degrees. so through tuesday morning this band of rain will continue to

push its way north and eastwards across scotland could fall as freezing rain and snow, so do take care of first thing. that then clears its way through and across much of england and wales. it's largely dry and fine. wednesday we'll see some outbreaks of rain, but on thursday temperatures will be climbing up to 13 to even 15 degrees by. >> expect a warm front moving from the kitchen right through to the rest of the

>> this is free speech nation with me josh howie. still to come on the show tonight. is it racist to call someone stupid and white? a school assistant has been vindicated following herjob loss after expressing her job loss after expressing concerns about sexual education lessons at a child's primary school. the ceo of a female only app school. the ceo of a female only app who refused to address a trans woman as miss, joins us to talk about her long ordeal in

the australian courts, and we'll be showing you the latest social sensations going viral this week. oh, and comedians answering some crazy culture war questions from a live studio audience. but first, the news with aaron armstrong. with aaron arm strong. >> with aaron armstrong. >> very good evening to you. it's 8:00, i'm aaron armstrong. let's get you up to date with our top stories. the prime minister will attend an emergency summit in paris tomorrow, as european leaders attempt to retake the initiative on talks about ukraine. the meeting will be hosted by the french president, emmanuel macron, who is determined the uk be closely involved in all future discussions about ukraine. and it comes amid growing concern over us efforts to agree a deal with russia to end the war, which european governments fear will damage security on the continent. well, president trump has sent two of his closest foreign policy advisers to saudi arabia for talks with russia, at which neither europe nor ukraine have

been invited to. and the us secretary of state, marco rubio, will also be there. volodymyr zelenskyy once again reiterated earlier his country will never accept decisions between the us and russia about ukraine without ukraine. well, sir keir starmer has warned president trump any talks about ukraine will fail if he shuts europe out. and starmer has offered to act as a bridge between the us and the eu. meanwhile, sir keir starmer is chagos islands deal has been hit by another revelation as the chief mastermind behind it. the former mauritian prime minister has been questioned over an alleged money laundering scandal. the shadow home secretary, chris philp, has urged the prime minister to abandon the deal, citing concerns about corruption. while speaking to gb news earlier, the business secretary, jonathan reynolds, said we need to focus on the deal itself. >> negotiation around the with the chagos islands is about securing the long term future of an incredibly important uk us

military base. that's what the dealis military base. that's what the deal is seeking to achieve. it's why the previous government began negotiations around it, and what matters to me is making sure for our national security, that long term position is upheld. and, you know, there's been a lot of commentary on what that deal is. when it's finished, it'll be published in the usual way. but let's not lose sight of what we're trying to do here. we're trying to secure the long term future of an essential facility. >> stabbing in austria that killed a 14 year old boy and wounded five other people. yesterday was an islamist attack. that's according to local police. authorities say the 23 year old suspect is a syrian national with legal residence in austria, who's sworn allegiance to islamic state and was radicalised online. the attack took place in the southern city of villach, near the border with italy and slovenia. three of those who were injured remain in intensive care. the government has announced a new multi—billion pound investment in the steel

industry. a consultation was launched aimed at looking at long term issues facing the sector like high energy costs, unfair trading practices and scrap metal recycling. it's thought the threat of donald trump's tariffs, plus those energy cost increases, have spurred the £25 billion plan. and the awards are almost finished being handed out at the baftas, which are taking place on the south bank in london at the royal festival hall right now. felicity jones, while she was nominated in the best supporting actress for her role in the brutalist witch, along with the religious drama conclave. and emilia perez has been leading this year's nominations. i can tell you that best director has gone to brady corbet for the brutalist, among other awards, and in the last few moments, the best actor award has gone to adrien brody for the brutalist. he would have beaten timothee chalamet, ralph

finch, hugh grant and sebastian stan to the award. there he is, victorious bafta winner and he's beaten the man next in your picture, there's ralph fiennes, but his film conclave picked up several gongs. i'll round it all up for you a little bit later. those are the latest gb news headlines. i'll be back with more a little later. >> for the very latest gb news, direct your smartphone. sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com/advent alerts. >> james matthewson. >> james matthewson. >> welcome back to free speech nation. i'm joined again by my comedian guests this evening, aiden mcqueen and nick dixon. >> hey guys. so we're going to get some. >> more questions from our audience. our first question is from brian. >> brinn. >> brinn. brian, >> brinn. brian, do >> brinn. brian, do you >> brinn. brian, do you identify

as brian? >> wow. >> wow. >> you know, guy. >> you know, guy. >> how appropriate. >> how appropriate. >> for this show. >> for this show. >> should the media take part in immersive role play? should the media call a spade a spade? >> yes, yes. should the media call a spade a spade? yeah. the scottish daily express has been reported to the police scotland. i think it is for targeted harassment of doctor beth orton upton, after the newspaper referred to the transgender medic as a man. the controversy stems from a legal case involving nhs fife and doctor upton, where a nurse, sandy pegi, is suing after her objection to doctor upton's presence in female changing rooms led to her suspension. have you been following this case, brian? >> how do i. >> how do i. >> how do i. >> how do i report that? sorry, but i've been following it very closely. i actually went to the tribunal. >> wow. and there were i mean, it was incredible. i was just

reading it on twitter or x and just some of the admissions that were coming out were insane. we have a doctor who doesn't acknowledge biological sex. >> pretty much. it's a nebulous dog whistle with no meaning. >> yes. well, there we go. well that's good. that'll helpful. next time, i need to get my prostate examined. aiden, have you. are you familiar with this case? >> yeah. well, i mean, as somebody called aiden, i've been misgendered as aiden many, many times. >> okay. you feel the pain of. >> okay. you feel the pain of. >> i understand, brian, and, you know, to the point where they introduced me at the stage as aiden. and everyone gets disappointed when the world's laziest drag queen comes on as aiden. but it's. it's annoying. but is it a hate crime? i don't know. i mean, it's rude. it's rude, i suppose to not call you what you want to be called. >> yeah, but the case. >> yeah, but the case. >> stems. >> stems. >> nick from not calling what one wants to call, but actually from being forced to go into a changing room with a male body person. now, it should be said, doctor upton has not had the

gender recognition change, has not got the certificate, is still a biological male. >> who claims to be a biological female. by some very strange reasoning. yes. and this upton person. i'm not even going to risk saying what they are said. i'm biologically female and said sex had no defined or agreed meaning in science. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i mean, i didn't, i needed to sign up to gcse, but i'm pretty sure it's. >> one day you'll be with a woman and you'll know. >> okay. thank you. >> okay. thank you. >> that's shots fired. >> that's shots fired. >> wow. this is. i've been here three and a half years. so she doesn't know? >> yeah, i think papers. but this is all about papers using the wrong inverted commas, pronoun or whatever or term. but people should never have accepted all this stuff. in my humble opinion, not relating to this case in case it gets sued. but in general, the daily mail allegedly rightwing paper has been falling for the pronouns stuff since the start, right? they immediately capitulated. yeah, okay. yeah, we're changing they immediately capitulated. yeah, okay. yeah, we're changing all language. >> what i find is they're taking all language. >> what i find is they're taking

away, say my language. i always away, say my language. i always identify as miss, and i'm sure identify as miss, and i'm sure you'll notice this when you go you'll notice this when you go down to scroll down in lots of down to scroll down in lots of places. you can't use miss places. you can't use miss anymore. you're forced to use anymore. you're forced to use miss. and so it has to work in miss. and so it has to work in every way. if we're going to every way. if we're going to cater for everybody, you know, i cater for everybody, you know, i mean, cater to people as best mean, cater to people as best you can. but if you can't do it, you can. but if you can't do it, don't sue them. >> well, it's because this this don't sue them. >> well, it's because this this science, the nurse she has science, the nurse she has basically she got suspended i basically she got suspended i believe that's that's the case. believe that's that's the case. so she lost her job. the nurse, so she lost her job. the nurse, again, so she lost herjob. the nurse, so she lost herjob. the nurse, her senior nurse. seems like her senior nurse. seems like there's a lot of shenanigans. i there's a lot of shenanigans. i have to be legal careful legally have to be legal careful legally for legal reasons here. but nhs for legal reasons here. but nhs fife have. not necessarily fife have. not necessarily represented themselves to the represented best ability. i believe they have some lost documents. and best ability. i believe they have some lost documents. and this is, and i believe that the this is, and i believe that the senior, the head nurse, also seemed to struggle in terms of differentiating between men and women beyond the fact that women can get pregnant, and that was the only biological difference that she could identify. and

fen-m first thing. that's the first thing. >> you see the eyes. >> you see the eyes. >> oh, yeah. and also just smacks of just kowtowing to the same minority group. you know it. anybody else would not be allowed to have their face covered. so. >> yeah, i mean, they the police have released both photos. the idea being that the judge did say that the press can use which photo they wanted. so it was providing an option between the two. but yeah. does this mean that sort of a burglar can say no. i identify now as a muslim or orthodox woman or and then that's it. that's the photo. they'll go out for them. >> it reminds me of the second time i got arrested. i didn't have any makeup on. >> i like how it's the second time. >> and i just felt so naked, you know? so i asked the police if i could get a bit of lipstick and they said, no. i mean, the women only laugh because they understand. but it was yeah, this is absolutely ridiculous. i can see why. if you're a

criminal, you would absolutely chance your arm at this, you know? you know, it's just like an episode of porridge, you know? it's ridiculous. >> well, this is it, nick. a terrorist, someone who wants to go and kill people, i believe, or martyr themselves. you know, lots of definitions of martyring. and there. what? her rights are more important than our right to identify this person. >> yeah. she said she was distressed by the original image. now, if you're going to go down that route, why not just say you're distressed by getting arrested? do you know what i mean? like, that must be quite distressing for her as well. yeah, it's absolute madness. she wants to join isis. k? >> i actually. >> i actually. >> like the photo with her covered up. i like her eyes. the focus. >> okay. >> okay. >> yeah, well, yeah. >> yeah, well, yeah. >> i. >> i. >> mean, it's great because no one knows who you are. you can do what you want. yeah, she's someone who wanted to go out to join a version of isis. she was preparing for terrorism. she was sharing images of graphic images and stuff to do with weapons. it's madness. but this is. this is the country we have now, josh, you've noticed we do endless stories now. it's always about the victim. you know, the criminal is the victim. they can't eat chicken nuggets, you

know, stuff like that. that's a real case. >> yeah, a paedophile. >> yeah, a paedophile. >> we have to be. >> we have to be. >> careful in case it causes his kids undue harm. we can't send them back. yeah, so this is the world we have now. this is starmer's. this is starmer's world. we did a what was that term the day someone said the term the day someone said the term lawyers for immigrants or something like that should be the new name of the labour party. >> that right. >> that right. >> anyway, that's. >> anyway, that's. >> my i would. >> my i would. >> just like to point out, in fairness, that this has been going on longer than starmer. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> oh yeah. if you want to get don't worry i'm absolutely destroy the tories as well. that's not going to solve me. both parties need to go. is that strong enough. that's i would destroy. >> that's pretty. >> that's pretty. >> strong there. our next question is from melvin. >> good evening. is it. >> good evening. is it. >> racist to call somebody stupid and white? >> yes. is it racist to call someone stupid? and right now, mel. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> now, melvin, you're stupid and white. now, what do you think about this? i mean, is it racist? >> i believe it is. because if you're going to have a go at somebody, why mention the colour of their skin? once you bring that into the argument, then it's got to be racist. >> fair enough. well, look, let

me explain the story. yeah. chelsea star sam kerr was found not guilty of racially harassing a police officer after a drunken incident in a cab. let's take a look at the video. >> honestly, you guys are stupid and white. >> okay. >> okay. >> i'm looking you in the eyes. why are you bringing racing you in the eyes like that? i'm stupid. >> kerr explained that she didn't intend to insult the officer and was expressing fear after a dangerous cab ride, the court ultimately cleared her of racially aggravated harassment charges. so nick, the only acceptable form of racism? >> yeah, a couple of weird things. she accused him of having power and privilege over her. well, maybe in an authority role, but the privilege of privilege is i can't say it was clearly with her because she's been let off this clear to me, it seems obvious that. >> she's very famous. she earns way more than the police officer. yes. and she's going on about how i'm going to get the chelsea are going to send their lawyers down and whatever. it doesn't sound like she's coming from a powerless place. >> no, you have to look at this claim of privilege. look at the white children, you know, raped and tortured by the thousands in the grooming gangs. if you're white in this country, you're

now a second class citizen. that is my claim. >> well, that is a well some people. >> agree with. agree with me. >> agree with. agree with me. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so more than two people. two people. >> guys aideen, this is if you did you see the story this week. yeah of course. so it seems like it's acceptable. the idea is there hypocrisy here. is it that you should be able to accuse people or they should be found to be racist? in which case, or is it in this case like nobody should be accused of? >> well. >> well. >> you can't have it both ways, is what i'm trying to say. >> i know, but it is. it is less of a crime. it's like there are certain rules. >> well, is it less of. >> well, is it less of. >> a crime? punching up in comedy, you can punch up, you can the french people, you can american people. you know, in ireland, we can english people. >> the french aren't better than us. >> us. >> calm down. they are a bit though. really? but you can. so? so i don't think it has the same historical feminine weight to say that. that. i mean, she was drunk in a cell. she was, she was being very annoying that her time i got arrested, i played

the same game myself and they didn't. >> how many times have you been arrested? >> there's a lot of times. but that's why i'm here. but. but yeah, i don't think it does hold the same venom. i mean, obviously in an ideal world she wouldn't say it, but she was drunk. she wasn't acting right. >> but the point is, if she. of course, if she had said stupid, you're a stupid and black, i think she would have been done for racial. >> oh, yeah, she would have been. >> yeah. and that's that's hypocrisy. >> then how is it punching up, though? because, you know, white boys are the least likely group to go to university. they have lower wages than many other groups. we've seen the way white girls are treated in the grooming gangs you can cite as examples. so why is it punching up? it's not punching coming. >> from her perspective, from her growing up. it's different than when it was now. and i mean, she i keep defending her like she was drunk. it's fine. whatever she does was fine. i mean, it's not ideal what she said. it's not good. she shouldn't have said it. i'm sure she was an absolute brat, but i don't think she should have been accused of racism for doing so. >> i'd get rid of all, by the

way. i'd get rid of all hate speech laws. but if we're going to have them, then they have to be applied equally. >> that's all. fair enough. great point. our final question is from robin. >> hello. hello. so how can we possibly find out when pride and black history month is. >> oh, yeah. how do we find out when? pride. thank you robin. so yes this is i believe google. they've removed several holidays including black history month and lgbtq+ pride month from its calendar app. the decision also affects women's history month, indigenous people month and others. google attributed this change to feedback about missing events and the need for a more sustainable approach, as they had been manually adding cultural moments. nick, this is quite. is this an interesting turning point? is it? it actually turns out they did it last summer, i believe. so it isn't necessarily part of the trump wave as some people are calling it. but you could also argue that the app would become unusable if they actually added every single holiday. >> yeah, well, that's what they found. they kept getting complaints because people said, well, where's my little day on

there? where's samoan canoeing day or whatever it is? i made it up on the spot. that was quite good. yeah. so became impossible. that's what happens with woke. it proliferates as we know, the endless number of letters, the endless number of events. so they just found it impossible. but like you say, this thing is happening with trump. google are getting in line. gates is getting in line, zuckerberg. but this may not be an example of it. >> yeah. i mean, if you actually look at all the lgbtq+ events through there, it's actually every month and day of the year almost seems like that. >> two years ago, because there's so much stuff in your calendar. two years ago, somebody offered me a gig on the 8th of march, and i looked at my calendar briefly. i was like, oh, there's something in the diary, i can't do it. and then when i looked again, it was actually international women's day. so i missed a gig on international women's day because i thought i had a gig because i thought i had a gig because of international women's day. >> and i thought, you hated. >> and i thought, you hated. >> women, right? since then, i've stopped being a feminist. yeah, so it does get too much. it reminds me of when i was growing up, and we'd get this calendar from the parish every yean calendar from the parish every year, and it had all these different saints like saint

patricia, the saint of the bleeding toenail, or, you know, the saint of the abominable snowman, you know, all these dates and you didn't really look at them, but they were there. so it's not a terrible thing to have all these things in your calendar, but it's not very practical either. >> well, i'll bet you that those saint holidays were not put in the calendar at the time. so next on free speech nation, the ceo of a female only app who refused to address a trans woman as miss joins us to talk her long ordeal the australian courts. you do not

hello. welcome, everybody. yes, hello. welcome, everybody. yes, you wanted to applause, didn't you wanted to applause, didn't you?in you?in you wanted to applause, didn't you? in a landmark case in you wanted to applause, didn't you? in a landmark case in australia, sal grover's women only app giggle has been found australia, sal grover's women only app giggle has been found to have discriminated against a to have discriminated against a trans identifying male after he trans identifying male after he was barred from using the was barred from using the service. the judge ruled that service. the judge ruled that roxanne tickle had suffered roxanne tickle had suffered indirect discrimination, and sal indirect discrimination, and sal grover was ordered to pay grover was ordered to pay

$10,000 and costs. the founder $10,000 and costs. the founder of the app, sal grover, is appealing this and she is here right now from australia in the audience, next to the audience here in the studio. sal, welcome. i hope you're jet lag is now finished. please update us on the case because you have been on the show before. we've known that this went to court and they actually found against you, right? >> yes. so basically in august last year, we got the decision and the judge said that sex is not binary. it's changeable. basically, men can be women. and

opera that the endless soap opera that is the giggle giggle vehicle case. the applicant, roxanne tickle, is actually cross appealing. so i'm appealing to the decision because obviously it's nonsense, but so is he. he's actually appealing the decision. he won and he wants it changed from indirect to direct discrimination. and he wants more money. >> wow. so the what's one of the interesting parts of this case is because in australia the situation is very different because here the courts kind of saved the gender critical movement, because we didn't have the legislation that you have in australia. right? >> yes. i mean, you guys are sort of fighting tooth and nail to make sure that gender identity doesn't go into law in australia. they actually got it in 2013. to wow. yeah. so and it's not like the law has been working well in the last 12 years or whatever. i mean, they've been in the australian human rights commission especially, has been intimidating women, men, businesses to comply to this nonsense. and i don't know, they

just messed with the wrong one. >> yeah. someone i there it is. yes. you deserve a round of applause because this has taken years of your life and taken potentially millions of dollars, right? >> yeah, yeah. i mean, basically it's just something so stupid, like it's very rare in life that you actually ever know that you are 100% right. like we actually usually do exist in some sort of humility where we're like, oh, look, there's a chance i could be wrong. men are not women. they're not in any way, shape or form. i'm 100% right about this. they are wrong. so when it first started, i and people were coming after me. i was like, no, no, you have to stand your ground on something like this. because obviously the women's rights and lgbt rights were the canary in the coal mine and child protection. but it's everyone. no one should be forced to believe this nonsense. it's freedom of speech, freedom of belief and freedom of association. gender ideology is against all of it. and you just some fights are too important, and some moments in history are too important that you can't sit

back. >> so yeah. and that's it. so you put yourself out there. what is what's been the personal cost to you? because at least it feels like in the uk the groundswell of women, mostly women, standing up and fighting back. you had we had jk rowling publicly making a statement on this case and being very pushing this case and being very pushing this and letting people know of people of all of the issues, highlighting this and letting people know of all of the issues, highlighting them. but it doesn't feel just them. but it doesn't feel just from here watching what's going from here watching what's going on in australia, it doesn't feel on in australia, it doesn't feel like there's the same focus. it like there's the same focus. it even gets the same kind of media even gets the same kind of media attention or anything. attention or anything. >> that's why i'm here, because >> that's why i'm here, because in australia, the censorship is in australia, the censorship is i mean, it's just horrific. both i mean, it's just horrific. both media and politicians want to media and politicians want to pretend that there is no issue. pretend that there is no issue. they keep telling us the they keep telling us the politicians will just dismiss politicians will just dismiss it, saying there's no issue. and it, saying there's no issue. and it's like, well, if there's no it's like, well, if there's no issue, can you let these human issue, can you let these human rights commission know? because rights commission know? because they've dragged me and other they've dragged me and other women through court for multiple women through court for multiple years, and if there's no issue, years, and if there's no issue, let us have women, only spaces. let us have women, only spaces. let us have women only sport. let us have women only sport. >> well, that's been the >> well, that's been the constantly. that's what it was constantly. that's what it was like here a few years ago. like here a few years ago. hashtag no debate there. there hashtag no debate there. there is no conflict of interest, men. is no conflict of interest, men.

there is no problem with women's there is no problem with women's sports, women being safe in women's only spaces and women's jails. >> there's so many sinister aspects of it as well. like even in our case, we put on, i think it was 16 affidavits of women just saying why this was important. you could have had thousands, but you just do a like a cross section so that the judge will actually read them of why women wanted women only spaces in various different domains, whether it was online in real life. we also had the un special rapporteur writing to say like , this is a man. the say like, this is a man. the judge dismissed it all. so, you know, we have like things like like sharia law. we've always heard that, you know, you need three women for one man. but in australia, i mean 17 women, including myself, our voice is dismissed for this one man claiming to be a woman. >> and how do you how must it be that level of gaslighting you're going to feel from your from from the totality of your society? >> it is it is gaslighting. and it's psychologically sometimes

really hard to deal with it. i have to take a moment and be like, okay, like the government is essentially trying to force me to believe something. i mean, and just so many different elements of it, even just in like a free speech aspect of it. dufing like a free speech aspect of it. during during the hearing, when i was being cross—examined, i was i would say

it's very rare that i would say this, but it makes me more grateful to be in the uk when it comes to free speech than to deal with what you're going through. but the slightly scary thing is that this actually has implications for the uk, right? >> it does i mean. potentially yeah.i >> it does i mean. potentially yeah. i mean yeah this case has implications sort of all around the world when especially when you're dealing with what they call novel law. and then you've also got situations where lots of jurisdictions don't have any precedents, which in australia, i mean, this is it. this is a precedent right now also common law countries. so we're all sort of joined together by cedaw, which is what we were all signatories of, which is the un's convention on the elimination of discrimination against women. so sex discrimination act is based on it's a document protecting women's rights. it's a beautiful document, but they're just misinterpreting it and trying to say that gender identity is in there. it's not. and so we're defending that. and it's like every case that happens, it sort of help can help. everybody else

was sort of in this global movement together. but this one just has very specific legal issues. >> yeah. so what are the next steps for you and your case then. >> so we're doing the appeal. so we have the next hearing. it's like an interlocutory hearing which is where the different interveners australian human rights commission has applied to intervene again against me. the australian christian lobby sort of bedfellows that you meet along the way here. they've appued along the way here. they've applied to intervene on my side. so they will be it will be decided whether they can also it's where the money fight is going to really happen. i mean i'm in a rights fight and this is public interest litigation. i want women's rights. i want my rights. the other side isn't a money fight. they want money. so if he is actually hasn't completely been established, we're trying to stop it. if he is awarded rights on top of the million dollar legal bill for my own legal team that i'm fundraising for, and i'm happy to pay my legal team because these are amazing people who are fighting for our rights for all of these very important freedoms. i'm not here raising

money for his legal team. he can go and do that himself. so but if he is awarded costs and we were to lose the whole thing. i'm looking at $2 million legal bill. just just for knowing that a man's a man. >> so shall we cover? we hear lots of stories. and my job is a very superficial compared to what you do. what i want to say is you're a hero. thank you. you're fighting for rights for all of us, including over in the uk. i'm sorry that you don't have the backing that you deserve in your own country. thank you so much for coming on. and you are. you're inspiring me. >> inspired so much. thank you, thank you. >> so, grover, everybody. next on free speech nation, a school worker sacked for sharing social media posts about lgbt relationships has won her appeal. ben jones from the free speech union is going to join us next. see you in a second. thank you.

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>> welcome back to free speech nation. a school worker sacked for sharing social media posts about lgbtq+ relationships has won her appeal. kirsty higgs was removed from her job as removed from herjob as a pastoral, pastoral, pastoral, pastoral, pastoral, pastoral, pastoral i don't know pastoral. is that a christian word? i don't know. we'll see. pastoral. we'll find out. administrator in 2019, after sharing one facebook post about brainwashing our children and another about suppressing christianity and removing it from the public

arena. but on wednesday, three judges backed her, saying that none of those posts were discriminating against her pupils. joining me to discuss this now is doctor ben jones, director of case management at the free speech union. hello. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> doctor ben. i'll call you. >> doctor ben. i'll call you. >> ben. yes, hello. >> ben. yes, hello. >> so this is a big victory, right? >> yeah, it's probably the most significant victory since maya forstater won the protection for all of us. that gender critical beliefs, i.e, believing in biological reality, should be protected. that you can't be discriminated against for that. so this is a great victory. but what i would say is, look at the cost that this inflicts, the toll this takes on somebody having to go through a process like this for six years, having been sacked, having done nothing wrong. and one of the most significant aspects of the background to her case, i think, is that she used a different name on her facebook account. she didn't identify the school she worked for. so this is somebody speaking in an entirely

private capacity, in a personal capacity, who still has a job. >> yeah. and there was no evidence of any discriminating behaviour towards her students as she was highlighting something. she was actually very ahead of the curve, really, to point this stuff out, because since then we have just seen so many examples of schools brainwashing young children in this gender ideology. >> yeah. so much. and this stuff, this ideology has been and is still rampant across the pubuc and is still rampant across the public sector, across the private sector as well. and i think we'll talk about later, evenin think we'll talk about later, even in the military and the armed forces of this country, this ideology is absolutely everywhere. and for a long time, trans rights activists who have wanted to bully people into going along with this nonsense on stilts have been able to and they've been able to create these mobs to pressure employers into getting rid of people and to tricking employers into thinking that actually, the great mass of public opinion is offended by these ideas, and that the simplest thing is just to get rid of somebody as soon as there is a complaint. but

what this case means is that there is now a much higher legal standard for an employer wanting to do that. the threshold is much higher. you have to show that real reputational harm has been done. you have to show that the comments in question are objectively offensive, or that they target a particular group, or a particular group of people with intent, and that imposes a much higher test that will protect many more people than was previously the case. >> but i guess it's getting it out there because, as we've seen before, so many times these cases happen, but institutions aren't necessarily aware of them, and they still act as under the guidance that they may have got from stonewall or other organisations who may be misrepresenting the law. they did so at the time. >> that's absolutely right. it takes a long time for these things to filter through to hr professionals. and at the free speech union, we have seen literally thousands of cases like this where ordinary people we're not talking about the j.k. rowling's of the world, we're talking about supermarket workers, soldiers, businessmen. we're talking about people in every conceivable walk of life who have been targeted in these

ways. and i'm happy to say that we win about 70 to 75% of the cases that we're involved in from beginning to end. so we are able to win. but as i said, this takes a huge toll on somebody. if you're if you're dobbed in by somebody you thought was your friend at work and you lose your job and you can't afford to pay your rent or your mortgage, and your rent or your mortgage, and your whole life is falling to bits, you might win after 2 or 3 years, but it's going to be a very long and very difficult struggle. >> yeah, well, i joined the free speech union this week. great, because i heard about a case. i heard about a case. let's a friend of mine, let's call him john dow dodi, and who has had some claims put out against him. and what is your advice to people going through this, this, this process of cancellation? what's the first step, do you think? >> contact the free speech union at the earliest possible moment. >> i'll tell.

>> i'll tell. >> him as soon as you think that there is even the chance of danger or trouble, just contact us. and one of our team will be very happy to speak to you and give you some advice about to how navigate it. and sometimes these things can be nipped in these things can be nipped in the bud if you just if you think that you might be investigated by your employer. or often we see people in a situation where their employer will say, come and have an informal chat with us about this issue. and in fact, it turns out to be an investigation meeting or a disciplinary meeting in disguise. if you're in that sort of situation, contact us, because it might be that a firmly worded email sent at this very early juncture will mean that the whole process is nipped in the bud, that the whole thing is terminated there and then, because by and large, employers in our experience, are ignorance of the fact that so many beliefs are protected under the equality act, there is legal protection not just for people who believe in biological reality, but all sorts of other things as well. and there is this growing list of beliefs that are afforded protection. and as i said, thanks to the higgs ruling, the

threshold for getting people in trouble in order for an employer to discriminate is that much higher. >> well, good. luckily, this person works for a good employer. so i also want to talk about the story of ex—royal marine jamie michael. he was this week cleared by a jury for stirring up racial hatred. are you familiar with this case as well? >> yeah, yeah, we provided we paid for his legal fees and we tracked him down. found him a lawyer. he. this is a terrible story. so he he was posting videos on his facebook page. you can see a common theme here. and this was in the aftermath of the southport attack. and he posted comments that i think if you polled the british public, about 95% would agree with the things that he was saying. he expressed concerns about immigration. he used some very, very strong language to describe people who've come in and committed attacks against children in this country. and he was reported to the police for this, for this video by a staff member of a

labour politician. the police had him locked up for 17 days. wow. it went to trial and the jury wow. it went to trial and the jury took 17 minutes to acquit him. wow. 17 minutes. so this again is another example of somebody where from summer until just last week, he's been in this position not knowing if he's going to be sent to prison or not. and this is somebody who fought in iraq, who is a royal marine. and i think the thing i would say this story is atrocious in its own terms about how this country has treated somebody who has served this country, but also look at how stories like this play out on the international stage. and we've had this extraordinary, epoch defining speech from j.d. vance in munich last week. what soft power does this country have or claim to have, if this is what we're doing to our ex—service personnel? it's astonishing, and our soft power will disintegrate. when you see stories like this, when they

reach american audiences, because they're just going to think that we have lost our minds in this country with prosecutions. >> well, that seems to be a theme that you see a lot on social media is about this. i would say that the examples that we've seen have been insane. i don't know if it's as bad as americans generally seem to be thinking now, but it has been called attention to and obviously there is the fight back. but as we were talking to claire fox earlier, baroness fox, about possibly being optimistic that this stuff is being exposed. do you get a sense of this? is it getting worse at your at the sort of at the coalface of all of this? are you seeing more complaints coming in? >> last, last week we had our busiest ever week in terms of new requests for help. >> busiest week. >> busiest week. >> any correct. >> any correct. >> last week. correct. so do you think that's some sense that people are aware more, that they have the ability to fight back? >> i think there's an element of that, but also the censorious attitude that we've been coping with since, say, 2016 or thereabouts in the beginning of

thereabouts in the beginning of the great awakening. so much of that still controls the commanding heights in this country, in cultural life, in the public and private sectors. as i've said, even in the military and uprooting this, it may be a work of, of many, many years. and we have a government at the moment which is incredibly hostile to freedom of speech. and i phrase that quite mildly. >> well, in the meantime, keep on fighting the good fight, doctor ben jones, everybody. >> and just join the free speech union. it's for a year of membership. >> 59.99. i'm going to try and claim it back on tax. so up next it's claim it back on tax. so up next wsfime claim it back on tax. so up next it's time for social sensations where we have a look at what's been causing a stir online. don't go anywhere. see you >> thanks. that's great.

>> okay. >> okay. >> welcome back to free speech nation. it's time for social sensations, the part of the show where we look at what's been going viral this week on social media. we're going to start with this video. >> rempe garlic bread. kick him in the face, will you? >> yes, that is peter kay being heckled this week. and then he got a couple of heckles hecklers kicked out. what do you think about that? was he right to kick him out? they seemed to create a bit of a hoo ha, which is ridiculous. >> we're just going through.

>> we're just going through. >> the post way over the top. come on. a little bit of heckling. yeah. his response to. >> if you had like a whole half of someone shouting garlic bread every two seconds, that's just we saw only a tiny clip there. and i'm aware that sometimes clips get taken out of context, but. but we're not seeing the full show. and if someone if you're doing a pie and every time you get to your punchline, just someone shouts out garlic bread, it's so annoying. there's got to be a point where you like. >> especially if you're not peter kay. yeah, you're. >> like. >> like. >> yeah, garlic bread. sorry. yeah, that was funnier than you guys realise. you'll get that later at home. >> i mean, what do you think, nick? >> the heckling me by their silence. well, i think absolutely, absolutely. it's a heckler. these aren't people. these are hecklers. they're the worst people on earth. i've only just seen it, but i hate. i did comedy for 11 years. obviously hecklers. everyone's like, oh, what's the best heckle you've ever had? nothing. they're idiots. they ruin the show. it's an art form that requires quiet and people listening and laughing. it destroys the art form. that absolute scum. sorry to sit on the fence. >> no, no. there are moments of hecklers being very clever. there's a famous the kirk douglas story. you know, kirk

douglas, his son, did stand up, and then he was at the comedy. >> michael douglas. >> michael douglas. >> no, not michael, but his other son. and he was dying on his butt. and someone shouted out like, oh, you're rubbish. and he went, don't you know who i am? i'm michael, i'm kirk douglas son. and then someone at the back stood up, went, no, i'm kirk douglas's son. that's amazing. >> that would. >> that would. >> be good. that is a famous, famous story. >> the story about bono as well. he was saying he kept clapping bono. and he was like, every time i clap, a child in africa dies. and then somebody said, stop clapping. >> so sometimes it's okay. but shouting out garlic bread, i think we can agree, is a totally annoying. so up next is this video. >> slowest. none. oh. slowest. your granddaughter. >> i don't have a granddaughter, only a grandson. who is you,

jake, isn't it? >> so this is from waterloo road, i don't know, have you seen the full clip? it's basically someone cut out. they're very good. count to follow. online mix finds these clips and puts them together. and in basically the narrative is the grandma misgenders her says, oh no, i've only got a grandson. and then later on this character is like, oh, my grandma didn't name me in it. and she's the vic, not the dying woman with dementia. but this this trans woman is the true victim of all of this. did you see this? >> i haven't seen it. no, this sounds absolutely ridiculous. i think once you get over the age of 70, you can say whatever you want and nobody should mind. you've done enough. >> fair enough. only 25 years to go. >> yeah, i couldn't actually hear the clip in the studio, but obviously i'm strongly against it. just i know my views now. i can look at it and know what my

view would be. but this is the problem with drama. you see these bbc dramas like doctor who and things, and they're just used as just vessels for woke ideology, aren't they? like, hello, i just i'm a trans alien. are you though, you know, i mean, it's just like, bring back the daleks. i'm sorry, i sound like a reactionary. >> i'd say. a bbc spokesperson said in the storyline about lewis's grandmother, there are many references to the cruelty of dementia. there is no inference that the character is transphobic, and the episode concludes with lewis declaring that her grandmother was a real super woman, you know? yeah. watch the clip for your. >> i take back everything said. >> yes. well, yeah, we'll see you. there's one more clip now. >> it begins in california with a little girl raised by two moms. i needed my own adventures, my own challenge. and after meeting with an army

recruiter, i found it a way to prove. >> i should. you might not know this, but that's actually an advert for the american army. yes, exactly. this is a fate. it came out about a year ago. this is in biden's administration. and they're wondering, of course, why conscription, not conscription, but why army levels down? people wanting recruitment. >> yeah, exactly. this is a famous abbott called. people call it the advert. yeah. it was, it was my two moms was like, why is no one signing up for the army? and now with trump, recruitment has gone way up because there's a new advert which is a big bloke lifting heavy weights and going strong. people are hard to kill and that's the whole advert and that's the whole advert and that's much better, except it means they're gonna send loads of people off to die in war. so i. >> want to show the latest army advert to see if things have changed in america. oh, okay. well, we're not going to do that. described it, but there is. yes, i wanted to. so the point is the latest advert is like america. hell yeah. and i can bench press 5000 terrorists.

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>> we can expect clear skies leading to a light and warm day ahead. lovely boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news. >> good evening. welcome to your gb news weather update from the met office. it is going to be largely dry on monday. still chilly out there, but it will be turning milder as we head midweek. so taking a look at the bigger picture then we're still in this battleground with higher pressure to the east, low pressure to the east, low pressure towards the west driving some south and south easterly winds. but through this evening and overnight we have a band of rain across northern ireland that will move its way north and eastwards, so affecting parts of western scotland and southern scotland later to bring the risk of some hill snow. elsewhere across much of england and wales, largely dry, often cloudy, but there will be some clear spells and that's where we could see a touch of frost developing to start monday morning, but to start monday morning, but to start monday morning across much of scotland actually is a

largely dry start out there. we'll even see some sunshine across northern parts of scotland to start the day, but across orkney there are some showers moving through out towards the west. that's where we have some showery outbreaks of rain that could turn wintry over the hills across northern ireland. cloudy to start the day and across much of england and wales, but there are some brighter breaks developing, especially across the south—east of england through monday morning. so as we head through the day, then we should see some glimmers of sunshine coming into southeastern parts of england through the day, often cloudy out towards the west, with still feed of showers across parts of orkney before more persistent rain comes into northern ireland later on in the day. otherwise, it is still chilly out there, especially in the east underneath the cloud but out towards the west. temperatures up to 8 or 10 degrees. so through tuesday morning this band of rain will continue to push its way north and eastwards across scotland could fall as freezing rain and snow. so do take care first thing that then

clears its way through and across much of england and wales. it's largely dry and fine. wednesday we'll see some outbreaks of rain, but on thursday temperatures will be climbing up to 13 to even 15 degrees by. >> we'll see a cold snap, which will quickly develop into a front. boxt boiler repairs

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