thatis that is around 5:00 uk time. that is around 5:00 uk time. that is around 5:00 uk time here, and has now been taken to hospital by emergency services. police in berlin saying a major operation is now underway following that attack at the memorial, which sits just next to the us embassy in the city, where police have now sealed off the site and are carrying out their searches. and it comes just hours after a teenager was arrested on suspicion of planning a separate attack on the israeli embassy in the german capital. so we will keep across any developments on that story and bring it to you. turning now to news here at home and reform uk's deputy leader richard tice has slammed labour, claiming they failed to take

immigration seriously and dismiss working class voters. it comes after a letter seen by gb news reveals sir keir starmer told his ministers to admit his party ignored working people's concerns about immigration for too long. the prime minister says politicians have also become too scared to acknowledge that some migrants are genuine refugees and some aren't. he warns labour must stop patronising voters and counter the rise of reform's policies. and he's pledged to stand up for ordinary people who feel shut out and ignored. and an update on pope francis. he is being treated for double pneumonia but remains stable, according to his doctor. they confirmed that the pontiff is not in danger of death, but stressed that his recovery is ongoing. that's the latest news from the newsroom for now. i'll be back with you in an hour. now, though, let's get back to lee. >> for the very latest gb news direkt, your smartphone. sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , or go to

qr code, or go to gbnews.com/advent alerts. >> all. >> all. >> welcome to the anderson's real world. i'm lee anderson, the reform uk member of parliament for ashfield, and joining me tonight the very lovely, the gorgeous lizzie cundy. thanks for coming back on.and cundy. thanks for coming back on. and this week our left in the corner is back. he's been released from the care home. it's stephen pound. he's got three drinks there and he's had three drinks there and he's had three already. former labour mp thanks for coming on steve and thanks for coming on steve and thanks for coming on steve and thanks for the gifts by the way. we'll chat about that later. little bit naughty of you. >> can you keep that to yourself? i'll keep that to myself. >> i won't declare that on my register of interest. but look, guys, this week she's up to her old tricks again, steve. and this is all. sultana. sultana, member of parliament. independent member of parliament. she was a labour mp. she had the whip taken off her, but still a labour party member, by the way. and she's been saying some pretty awful things about reform uk. and she said in

about reform uk. and she said in a statement to gb news , as a statement to gb news, as a born and bred brummie whose parents suffered the violent consequences of far right politics, i speak for many in this proud, multicultural city when i say reject the politics of hatred and division. in my view, based on the comments they have made, that's us reform uk publicly about muslims and migrants reform uk. and by the way, our chairman is a muslim. reform uk is comparable to the national front and the british national front and the british national party. we pushed back against them before and we'll do it again. reform uk is a part is a party bankrolled by billionaires led by ex—banker pubuc billionaires led by ex—banker public school boys. its leader boasts of being the only politician in britain keeping thatcher's legacy alive. the same thatcherism that decimated pit villages and post—industrial towns across the midlands, leaving generational scars. look, it goes on a little bit longer. i'm not sure what. i'm

not sure. >> i've heard enough, if you don't mind. >> okay, then. steve, over to you. this is a labour party member, was a labour mp, got elected on a labour ticket and i'm quite sure there's quite a few in the labour party still in the commons now, will pretty much agree with what zara's having to say. >> well, let's face it, as you say, sultana is currently not. i mean actually that goes well, doesn't it? she's not actually a labour doesn't take the labour whip. but look, i suspect that you know rather more about pit villages than she does. and i think there's a saying that once you start talking about the nazis and the national front, you've lost the argument because you've lost the argument because you've you've got to throw that in, i think, to compare a legitimate political party to an illegitimate force is completely absurd. however, what you're seeing all over europe, i think, is a move to the left and to the right. and i think there's no question that there's a group within parliament now. and you know, that this present group who've just signed this latest letter to the prime minister, it's people like jeremy corbyn and richard burton, there is a move to the left. and i think to a certain extent, reform is a move to the centre right. but from my point of view as an old

labour and a very old labour member, very old, the labour party i joined was socially conservative, economically liberal and to be honest, you know, she could accuse us of being on the right. labour mps used to be she does not represent the mainstream, the warp and weft. >> are you trying to say that the old labour party is a bit like the new reform uk party? >> good god no. i think there are certain aspects of traditional labour that you and i let's be honestly, we agree on. >> yes we do. lizzie, you've seen this tweet is, you know, of the lunatics taken over the asylum once again. >> well, it seems so. i'm disgusted with this. i think it's offensive. i think it's sinister. and most of all, i think it's dangerous. incites, you know, division. it could incite violence. and most of all, it's not true. and i think she's inept. i don't think she knows what is going on in this country. >> what it is. lizzie, what led to this response to gb news was a tweet that zara put out was basically a picture of nigel with some graphics on nigel farage that is advertising the date of our conference in

birmingham next, next month, the 28th of march, i think it is. and basically saying we're waiting for you. >> well, can you imagine if nigel did that to her, put a cross through and look what actually happened to nigel when he was campaigning. he had that milkshake thrown at him. could have been a lot worse. we've already had two mps assassinated. does she not realise the danger she could be creating? this woman is a disgrace. i am absolutely livid with this. and really, how about i look at the polls? because reform are the largest growing british political party we have? they are, and they are doing so well. 27% in the polls are. laboun well. 27% in the polls are. labour, i think are down at 24, conservatives at 20. >> stephen, you're of a certain age. i think you're a little bit younger than my parents who are still rattling about, well, probably watching this right now. but, you know, for them, ex—labour voters voted tory for the first time in 2019, voted for me and reform uk. these have

been labelled. these are my parents. you know that's put a shift in gone to work for 4050 years. you know my grandparents fought in the wars. great grandparents fought in the first world wars. they're calling us these these horrible names. >> well, i mean, i hate to agree completely with lizzie cundy because normally we disagree quite violently, but i have to say she's she's nailed it. absolutely nailed it. this woman is a disgrace. but have a look at what happened in america. why did people desert the democrats in america? partly it was because of a perception that they had completely lost that contract that every political party should have with the electorate. and i think there are certain aspects of the labour party, not the majority by a long way, but a small percentage of them who are simply out of contract with the public. and i think the evidence is that you've now got, what, 200,000 members? >> 210,000. >> 210,000. >> all right. sorry. as of when i left the house this morning in. >> one year. stephen, we've amassed over 200,000 members in just. >> one year. if she's saying if zarah sultana is saying that over 200,000 people are national front and bnp sympathisers, then well, frankly, you know, she's

made an absolute bigger fool of herself than i thought she was capable of. >> lizzie, i mean, unbelievable. i mean, 4 million voted for reform, as you say. the members are growing day by day, you know, so she's saying a quarter of the british electorate are far right mps. that's what she's saying. which to me is totally offensive. this woman needs to go. i don't want to ever see her again. it is so wrong. and imagine anyone else doing that through someone. that black line thatis through someone. that black line that is so wrong to do that. it's nasty, it's evil, it's sinister. >> so, steve, stephen, you played a big role in the labour party for many, many years was a labour mp and minister for several years. what were the big bosses in the labour party now be saying? of course, you know, she is an independent mp but still a labour party member. can she have the membership taken, taken away from her? >> well she can. it's a fairly convoluted process, but of course she can. look, the reality is that, i mean, reform uk have had a few wrong'uns standing under their banner in

the past because, you know, everybody tries to do due diligence, but you've got this tension when you've got elected people. on the one hand, you want to have the local party have the autonomy and the right to choose who they want. on the other hand, you've got to actually make sure you don't get some wrong ends through the net. i think in this particular case, parts of the coventry labour party, which don't forget, the only, only town in the country that actually elected a militant. i mean, dave nellis actually stood as a member of the militant tendency, got elected in coventry. they've got the but we need to do a bit more due diligence. she has no future in the labour party. trust me on that. >> no. i'm sorry stephen. your party, they were supposed to be for the working class hero. since they've come into power, they have been nothing but doing wrong. lie after lie after lie. >> then one. >> then one. >> single starmer. his judgement on people. >> oh wait. >> oh wait. >> rachel from the count. yeah. >> rachel from the count. yeah. >> there's another lie. yeah. >> there's another lie. yeah. >> rachel from accounts has lied and lied and lied on us. >> what about. >> what about. >> we're sorry. that's actually a criminal offence. did you know that? to lie on your cv? >> well, i've heard this week

that i think the business secretary, jonathan reynolds, he's been creative on his cv as well. claimed he was a solicitor. is that right, steve? >> jonathan. he trained as a solicitor. he was supposed to then do his pupillage where he was actually working with another. he didn't complete it because he stood for parliament. >> so he's never been solicitor. >> so he's not a solicitor, is he? and stop making excuses for him. they're liars. and the worst thing is keir starmer's judgement because he put her in power rachel accounts. you know it's nothing wrong with working in the halifax in the complaints department. but don't pretend you're doing something else. >> well, i'm sorry she said she she'd worked for the bank of england for the best part of ten years. she worked for six and a half years. >> she doubled it. >> she doubled it. >> but hang on a second, lizzie. where's where's these lies? you say the labour party has not individuals, but the party has lied. give me an example. give me one example. >> if your payment, your payments. >> one. pensioners taking off the pensioners. they didn't say that. >> sorry. >> sorry. >> the farmer's taking, you know, doing the inheritance tax. >> i'm sorry. the inheritance tax on farmers was something that the daily telegraph was pumping two years ago. >> lie after lie. what about

freebie gay and these free glasses and suits? where's where's lord alli? where's lord alli now? >> where's the lie? >> where's the lie? >> party of change. they're going to. change things. are things working? i'm trying to be impartial here. >> come on. changing it. changing for the worse. lie after lie. you know, they said they were going to be the party of integrity. yet what happened with freebie gay? you know, say taylor swift tickets, suits, glasses, the list goes on and on and on and on. >> so where's these? >> so where's these? >> it's embarrassing. steve and his judgement is. >> did you take freebies as an mp? >> good god, no, of course i didn't. nobody offered them to me. >> i wonder why that is. lizzie's got a good point. you know, when just before the election, we kept hearing sir keir starmer saying we're the party of change. we want to clear it up. we're sick of all this stuff that's going off in number 10, downing street stuff going up in government. you know, it's the politics of the gutter. all this. as soon as it gets in, it gets and this is going to carry on. by the way, stuff is going to be revealed every single week. now is that party? >> we're not allowed to mention

the vocal coach, are we? we're not allowed to look. what we want is a leader. we don't want a barrister. we've got a barrister that is prime minister, not a leader that sadly. what do you think? what do. >> you think, stephen? vocal coach is on christmas eve? >> well, i. >> well, i. >> don't think that's the only lesson i. >> have to say that shows dedication to duty, doesn't it? >> well. >> well. >> christmas eve, while the rest of us were, you know, lager ing it up. >> we weren't logging it up because we were locked down. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> we're locked down. and also, ihope >> we're locked down. and also, i hope he gets his money back because he sounds like a darling. he does with. >> he sounds like a distressed darling. >> with a hernia. >> with a hernia. >> yeah. with a hernia. >> yeah. with a hernia. >> i'm sorry. you know, play the ball, you know. you know, not the. yeah it's true. >> stephen. yeah. did you have vocal lessons? >> oh, you're having a turkish mate, lizzie. >> no, i don't need vocal lessons. i went to drama school, so i'm very good with. >> my drama. >> my drama. >> school vocals. yes, but i've just got to say, look, it is one thing after another with this government. it's lie after lie after lie, and, you know, people in my pub who are voted for labour because the conservatives were inept, that's the reason

why they got in. but saying we voted and it's a lie, we want to take back our vote. >> lively discussion guys. thanks, stephen. thanks, lizzie. but coming up next, we've got a special segment this week with adam brookes, the landlord of this place, and good old mucker of mine, chef

this country. it's not racist to pusyria. :k in syria. >> yeah. yeah. well, in syria it was families, lovely people. and to be honest with you, when i got there, like i thought maybe we wouldn't be very welcome. maybe there'd be, you know what i mean? like, because a lot of stuff happened over there, and i thought maybe i couldn't be more wrong. nicest people i've ever met in my life. families, kids. saddest thing i've ever seen. but then you get to calais and it's just single men. yeah, i didn't see any kids, any families, and i was genuinely scared there, like they didn't. i mean, i didn't see i didn't speak to all of them, but the people i did speak to, like they didn't seem like very. >> but what about the crime in northern france in these >> but what about the crime in northern france incrime. from >> a lot, a lot of crime. from what i spoke to a syrian family that was there and just to i think there were three blokes and they were saying that there's like rape that goes on and they were saying that there's like rape tgangsas on and they were saying that there's like rape tgangs and] and they were saying that there's like rape tgangs and the lot of knife crime gangs and the smuggling gangs are actually part of the immigrants. so they

do it between themselves and like they're using people's lives to make money. >> and you've had plenty to say about this in the past. we know. yeah. but i mean, i think some of these out—of—touch mps that work in that place i work at should try and make that same journey that dave. in. and and good old mucker of mi|about?f and good old mucker of mi|about? and we've had people know about? and we've had people from dunkirk officials as well, and in authority from dunkirk and in authority from dunkirk and in authority from dunkirk and in calais that that speak about gun crime, you know, immigrants letting off guns. yeah. machete and knife fights in the streets of calais. yeah. now, in a few months, those people end up in britain. yeah. so, you know, they're probably. how many of them are in the hotels currently being paid for by ourselves. we do not know their histories. we do not know their histories. we do not know their motives for being here. and they're being dumped into communities where their families, you know, there was a migrant hotel near here in

epping. now, i speak to locals of epping. these immigrants would walk up the high road. they would be spitting, they would be creating crime. yet no one wants to talk about it. in case you're labelled racist, one thing i'm not scared to is talk and speak about the issues of this country. it's not racist to push back

like, oh yeah, let me in. and these families that again, like i said, i'd love to bring them in. look. >> we're not monsters. >> we're not monsters. >> so sad. >> so sad. >> we're not monsters. i would generally always want to help people that families that are fleeing war. but we know the majority of these people coming across are economic migrants. they've said they're causing genuine people to miss out on a better life. and for me, what is the danger. >> of parliament, though? i mean, i've been there nearly six years, five and a half years now, and i'm in parliament and they still don't get it. they still i mean, i think, i think the labour party are suddenly, you know, now they're in government. they're sort of understanding it a little bit better. but before it was

everybody coming over on a boat on the channel was a genuine refugee fleeing persecution. now they're labelling them as migrants. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> look. >> look. >> labour are not suddenly understanding it. they are petrified of reform uk taking their constituencies. so they're not understanding now. they're suddenly thinking, what can we say to maybe get a few voters back? well, time for talking is done. people want to see action. >> and yeah, you're right. >> and yeah, you're right. >> i just don't understand it. i mean, it's me. i'm not part of any political party. i am reform voter, but i'm not part of anything. and like, what i don't understand is like, why no one's doing anything about it, because it's obviously a problem. but it is a problem. >> we've got a problem. >> we've got a problem. >> doesn't matter who you are. like if you're left wing, right wing, whatever you are like, surely you can see it's a problem. >> like there's a, there's a thing, i think on the telegraph this morning about or yesterday about a syrian asylum seeker sex attacker. >> yeah. >> yeah.

>> that we can't deport because it might breach his human rights. now. i'm sorry. i've got no feelings about their human rights. what about the human rights. what about the human rights of the women or the children that are being raped in this country? the human rights of a taxpayer like myself like to have a safe country? yeah. you know, a government's job is to protect its citizens, and they're not doing that. you know, we should just be putting them on a plane like trump has donein them on a plane like trump has done in america. >> oh, mate. i mean, with within days, within days. >> it proves that it can be done. >> it can be done. it takes political will. it takes backbone. >> we are so. >> but what we have seen adam over the past few weeks is the laboun over the past few weeks is the labour, labour government saying, look at this. 20,000 people were deported. what they're not saying is that the vast majority of them have volunteered to go back. they are they are overstayers. these are people who actually come here legally, not illegally. they've came here to work and or to study. and for whatever reason, they've been a bit naughty and stayed over. but we saw one, one

raid on a farm somewhere in the uk where they went and dragged all the workers, illegal workers, they overstayed. they'd been picking fruit or picking vegetables or whatever. and actually, i'm thinking, in the grand scheme of things, if we're going to deport people, they be the bottom of my priority because they actually working and picking vegetables. >> but what would you do, lee? like, i know you're you're in reform and i know you get labelled as like a big nasty gorilla or whatever it is, but i know that, like, maybe to be fair, but i know you personally from helping at food banks. i know you're a good person and i know you're a good person and i know in our area it doesn't matter if you're white, black. you look after everybody. yeah, simple as that. but like, what would you do to solve the situation? because these families that are met, i'd love them to get help, but they don't. yeah. and then why what would you do with your party? >> like people say, we need safe routes. yeah, that's always been the case. well, we had for afghanistan like we had for ukraine and other countries, but you cannot have that, dave, until you stop the people coming over on the small. >> yeah, this is it.

>> yeah, this is it. >> like you can't because, you know, there's what, 50,000 came last year, adam. the same year. >> before. >> before. >> the hotels. i mean, these idiots in parliament say we've got to get rid of the backlog. the asylum claims. what does that achieve? it achieves nothing. >> they're stamping everyone through. and look, let's be real here. and i sound like a broken record. we have had murderers. yeah. you know, we have had paedophiles, gangsters, rapists come across on these boats. and the left just put their fingers in their ears. oh, it's just a few of them. well, to me, one one is too many. yeah. >> you know, i don't know why the. >> hotel worker lost her life, unfortunately, and wouldn't have lost her life if these people weren't coming across on the boat. so we've got to start putting british people first, right? and we've got to start getting tough. like trump and elon musk are in america. otherwise we've just sent we are sending a signal to the world, come here. we won't. >> be the laughing stock, aren't we? >> we are. >> we are. >> not solving it. yeah. like what? i don't get it. political

work. >> it takes a backbone. and you know, there's. >> took hard to do. just say don't quit. >> i think what it is, dave in parliament i noticed even with the conservative party when they were in government, there's too many lawyers. >> is that what. >> is that what. >> it is? mps? >> it is? mps? >> can we not just can't swear, can you? >> not just. >> not just. >> can we not? sorry about that guys. can we just. >> if it was in my gift, i would ban anybody who's a barrister or a lawyer being a member of parliament because they get tied up with this nonsense. >> let's let's just mention the chagos islands. yeah, exactly. thatis chagos islands. yeah, exactly. that is a big boys club of lawyers that are divvying things up between them. you know. >> time's up. talking about chatting nonsense. time's up. every pub's a parliament. i think that discussion proves that. but coming up next, we've got versus

welcome back. and it's time for right versus left. we've got stephen pound and the lovely

lizzie cundy. look, you're ex—military, aren't you, stephen? you've done a bit of time in the navy rn. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> yeah royal navy. yeah. it was many many years ago. was that national service by the way? >> no, just after that volunteer. >> volunteer volunteer. so we 56w. >> saw. >> this week serving the queen. >> this week serving the queen. >> yes. there's been some developments this week with in ukraine where you see trump making some noises and he's been talking to putin. and then we've seen some of our i think our keir starmer has mentioned this week there may be a possibility that some of our british troops could be sent to ukraine. stephen, do you think that's a goodidea? >> well, hang on a second. i mean, the british army at the present day is under 80,000 people. it's about 78,000 people, 72, 72,000. so, i mean, the royal navy has got about 40,000. it's twice as many people in prison as there are in the royal navy. and he's not talking about sending combat troops in. now, what he's talking about is if there's a ceasefire and if there is a peace line, having united nafions peace line, having united nations troops supported by european troops, don't forget europe's given more money to ukraine than ever america has. but what seriously worries me

about this is volodymyr zelenskyy has been thrown under a bus here. and when i have to say when donald trump says that zelenskyy started the war, i mean, that is false news. however you look at it, even you must agree with that. okay, lizzie. >> i think keir starmer reminds me of dad's army. don't panic, don't panic. remember, because he. jones he he's jumped the gun.he he. jones he he's jumped the gun. he he's you know he's set off before he can walk. he really has he's so premature i. >> think what some of these politicians are far too quick to get something out on twitter aren't they. yeah. to get the clicks and likes. >> he was saying peace keepers. now it's boots on the ground. what does he actually mean? he obviously has no idea about the army. and one thing we do know is that the army is in desperate need of help. it's depleting. i mean, you said 72,000. there's and actually 10,000 of them aren't fit to serve. it couldn't. our army couldn't even fit it raises. >> raises a bigger question as well, stephen. not just about ukraine. i mean, how many young

british lads and lasses would actually go out now and want to fight not just for our country, but for another country? >> lee, i'm sorry. you know, when you wear the badge, you do what the orders are. you go, you go. we know that. but what worries me about this and genuinely worries me about this, is people who've never done military service are very keen to actually commit people who have done military service, and it slightly worries me. but when i first came in the labour party, i remember going to my first council meeting in virtually every labour councillor had a military tie on their regimental tie on. they used to be that tradition. okay, that's a generational thing to a certain extent. but nowadays we're talking about completely different world. we're not talking about the old regiments, we're talking about an asymmetric civil anneliese war. we're talking about a war where people don't wear uniforms. it's a dangerous world. but this business about. >> looked after our own army, have we? >> so we're going to. >> so we're going to. >> housing everything. >> housing everything. >> listen, everybody. >> listen, everybody. >> it's not an attractive. >> it's not an attractive. >> and to top it all, is he. if you do do something 30 years ago, the big black, thick leather gloves are coming, banging on your door and arresting you. >> what exactly. >> what exactly. >> is it? every single member of

every single armed force i've every single armed force i've ever known complains about their kit. you always do. i mean, my day. we said the americans had better boots than us. everybody complains about their kit. >> it's on its lowest ebb than it is today. and we can't have keir starmer saying without thought and without thinking as usual, saying, oh, we're going to put them out in ukraine. he hasn't got an army, he's got no army to do that. >> you know, we've actually got one of the best armies in the world. it may be one of the smallest, but it is one of the best. our royal marines. >> does it feel wembley stadium, stephen, and you've got spare seats. it doesn't even feel wembley stadium. it's a sorry affair. >> in my day, if you had 450 on a, on a warship, on, on a frigate, you know, now you've got about 110 different now. >> but the laughable thing is, stephen, i mean, sir keir starmer is talking about going to sending troops to ukraine to keep peace, to protect the borders. we can't even protect our own borders. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> it's a slightly different issue, not different. >> but what's he going to do? is he going to have officer dibble on the with a truncheon? he can't stop, you know, everyone coming over to top cat. yeah.

well exactly. but what i'm saying is he can't stop people coming over to this on his watch. how many have come in? he said smash the gangs. he can't smash the ice off his garden pond. >> exactly. stephen, people around the world have been looking at this and saying, look at keir starmer. he's going to send troops into ukraine, protect the borders. meanwhile, we've got thousands of young men, unarmed men coming over the channel. they can't even stop them. >> hang on a second. look, we've used it in east timor, in sierra leone, in kosovo. you know, british troops have actually held the line. today. there is a european force in georgia actually holding the line there. we can do this, but we have to first of all get the ceasefire. and what worries. >> me, we haven't done it for our own country, surely. >> of course we've done it for oui'. >> our. >> own country. any duty of any government is to put his own people first. and he hasn't done that since he got into power. >> lizzie, you're so desperate. >> lizzie, you're so desperate. >> to reduce your aggressive attitude. please. we have got ladies present. >> i'm sorry if putin wins in ukraine. that is an existential threat to europe. he will not stop. he will come into poland. he will come into moldova. he'll

come into lithuania, latvia, estonia. >> that is why trump is trying to do the deal. there needs to. be throwing. me under the bus. we have sent 12.8 billion to the ukraine. we are going to be this endless war. but it needs to be stopped. even my friends who are ukrainian want this peace deal. they don't. everybody wants peace. they surrender, not surrender. they need a peace deal surrender. they need a peace deal. the difference? we need a peace deal. we need this war to stop endless supplies, billions and billions of money and the lives that are lost. this war needs to be stopped. we all want peace, but it needs to be stopped. >> we could have stopped in 1939. we could have surrendered to nazi germany, and we could have saved all that money. that's not about that. it's about defending our rights, our european rights, our rights as a free country and free citizens. putin is a threat to europe. yes. >> i know he is, but we've got. >> i know he is, but we've got. >> what are you doing. >> what are you doing. >> about it? well, what did what did you know keir starmer is going over next week. he's only ever done. he's called trump names and trump is trying to do something with a peace deal. you've got to give him that. biden did nothing for trump has

said they have done nothing. >> guys guys guys guys. >> guys guys guys guys. >> guys guys guys guys. >> guys this war. >> guys this war. >> turn it down and get excited. we are red faced. but after this conflict is over, because you know it's going to be over one day. >> yeah, of course. >> yeah, of course. >> it is. what's going to happen to zelenskyy? >> well, to be honest, i mean i've been to ukraine quite a few times. you've probably been asked to go a few times too, when you actually move east. west. i mean, when you're in the donbas region, i remember going to donetsk areas. people are predominantly russian speakers there in the centre south of kyiv, predominantly ukrainian speakers in the west, up by lviv, polish speakers. the word ukraine in russian means the border. ukraine is actually a vast. it was the breadbasket of europe. yeah. now the problem is i think crimea has gone. don't forget putin occupied crimea. yeah, we did nothing about it. so he then got ennobled. to move forward, we have to draw the line somewhere. i think in the reality, zelenskyy would be quite happy to give up and walk away if that's the price of peace, but not without surrendering, you know, not with surrendering, you know, not with surrendering so much of ukrainian territory. >> we can't be calling him a

dictator. there's only one dictator, which is putin, and he's not a dictator. >> but can we agree on that? >> but can we agree on that? >> okay, we'll shake on. >> okay, we'll shake on. >> that. >> that. >> agreed on that. we'll agree on that. but we all want peace. and trump is there trying to do this peace deal. this needs to end. >> love him or hate him, stephen, donald trump is trying to end this conflict. whether you agree with what we've been saying over the past week or not, his words, his tone, that's a that's a different debate altogether. but finally, we've got a us president actually talking to putin now to try and end this mindless killing. >> why isn't he talking to zelenskyy? >> i don't. >> i don't. >> know. >> know. >> but but listen, he said zelenskyy has. look , we heard zelenskyy has. look, we heard trump speak that zelenskyy hasn't picked up the phone or rung to try and stop this war. look, there are words going, you know, they're giving each other, you know, slagging each other off, basically. but look, we all want this war to stop. but keir starmer has to be careful what he says. i think he thinks this is his like falklands moment where he's going to be the hero. he has to be very, very careful

of what this is really treacherous. >> time, i see and i want to have a, you know, slight go. some of my colleagues now in in parliament, i see all these mps, men and women running round in soldiers outfits, camouflage on in the 50s and 60s, pretending to be soldiers. they'd never served a day in their life. and they're going to be making these sort of decisions to send our young men and women to, to a foreign land and potentially risk their own lives. >> i couldn't agree with you. and don't forget, we've got a tradition in this country. do remember the kipling thing? it's tommy this and tommy that and chuck him out. the brute. but it's the hero of his country when the guns begin to shoot. yeah. we've always had this attitude. we have a thing in parliament called. >> oh, by the way, stephen, if these young lads do go and do defend the ukraine and do defend our country, when they come back and they're back in civvy street, they'll far right street, they'll be far right racists in. >> that is disgusting. and my poor father, who served as a colonel in the second world war. yeah. and it would be turning in his grave. what happened to this country? >> yeah. no, no, i'm just impressed.

>> not sure. look, if you want peace, you have to prepare for war. and this is why we have to put more money. >> right? >> right? >> our defence. >> our defence. >> stephen's getting a little bit. stephen. calm down. he's getting excited. and prepare for the yes or no quiz. stephen poundis the yes or no quiz. stephen pound is awful at this. he's got a terrible track record, haven't you, stephen? >> i've lost eight times. but i did win once. >> you won once? yeah, right. you know the rules, don't you? it's a yes or no. no verbal tics. lizzie, please don't let him win. i could not sleep tonight. if you do. right. number one. lizzie, should the uk send troops to ukraine? >> no. >> no. >> stephen. >> stephen. >> yes? >> yes? >> stephen. is zelenskyy dictator? >> no. >> no. >> lizzie. >> lizzie. >> no. >> no. >> stephen. should ministers be sacked for lying on their cvs? no, no. lizzie. >> yes. >> yes. >> this is not gonna end well, is it, lizzie? will starmer last the full term?

>> no. >> no. >> that's a firm no. >> that's a firm no. >> yes, yes. »- >> yes, yes. >> fifth and final question, stephen. are the labour government right to give away the chagos islands? no i'm not. there was a tick there weren't there? there was. i won't let you have that. there was something. there was a twitch. lizzie. >> no. >> no. >> did you say no? >> did you say no? >> am i allowed to talk now? >> am i allowed to talk now? >> no. >> no. >> that's it. >> that's it. >> yes. >> yes. >> that one again. i've done him again. >> he's done me like a kipper. i've done him. this is. >> this is. this is. >> i've been stitched up again. >> i've been stitched up again. >> yes or no to. >> this one. >> this one. >> did you say no? >> did you say no? >> no, no. >> no, no. >> winner. lizzie cundy. >> winner. lizzie cundy. >> thank you very much. fair and square. >> now the. this is interesting, stephen. the actual lying on cvs. you said. no, they shouldn't be psyched. >> well look what. >> well look what. >> sort of example does that

set. >> it's fraudulent. it's actually it's a criminal offence to lie on your cv. did you know that everybody. >> well it depends. if you use it for material benefit, it is. no, it's not a criminal offence on your cv. it's a criminal offence if you pretend to be someone and then use that for material benefit. but look, i don't know a person in the world who hasn't perhaps put a little bit of fairy dust on their cv. >> everybody's got a cv. >> everybody's got a cv. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> haven't you, can i just say though, rachel. rachel from the council, this wasn't like. >> have you. >> have you. >> did you hear that? it's a criminal record. that's the first. >> but this is the most. >> but this is the most. >> outside stamford bridge. >> outside stamford bridge. >> you think it's okay? you think it's okay for her to lie for the most powerful position in our country? and what's worse, keir starmer's judgement because he put her in there. >> guys, we're going to have to steve stephen calm down. what we have learned tonight is we've got a career convict a career criminal on the panel. afraid. did you say. >> it was outside fulham broadway tube station in the fulham chelsea game back in 1964? >> jesus. >> jesus. >> i was bound over to keep the

peace. >> and you've got a job as a labour mp. >> i've kept the peace ever since. >> there you go. >> there you go. >> like one of the major qualifications in the. >> labour party. god save. >> labour party. god save. >> look, coming up next, we've got last orders with chef dave. >> can't wait to get in that sea. >> lovely and warm. >> lovely and warm. >> just like the feeling of having great travel insurance. >> allclear travel insurance sponsors gb news travel destinations forecast. >> storm coral will be affecting eastern parts of the mediterranean, bringing in a cold plume so below average temperatures. these are set to affect athens parts of santorini. so feeling cold here. but as we move our way further west. milder, yes, but some unsettled weather on the cards, some rain affecting nice barcelona, also parts of portugal, but madeira and tenerife staying largely dry and that remains the way into next week. also the best of the temperatures and temperatures improving across santorini.

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>> well, that sounds like last orders at the barn tonight i'm joined by dave marshall, chef dave. >> let's meet again. >> let's meet again. >> he's from marshfield, one of our very own. and i've got a bone to pick with you. >> i'm going then. >> i'm going then. >> because it's your fault that the left call me £0.30 lee. >> it is. and you know what? back in the day, i didn't really have a platform to, like, defend you and defended me. i did, and. >> let me tell you what happened. >> it wasn't my fault. >> it wasn't my fault. >> but me and dave, just a few years back, i met dave. i was an mp. i was volunteering at a local food bank. dave was raising money, making batch cooking, making meals, and he was delivering them around ashfield to vulnerable families and well, carry on. what did you say to me? >> well, so i mean, like you were helping, like you were coming in on your days off. you were coming in at weekends, evenings helping, doing a lot. and i said to you, look, people

need to be people need to have help to learn how to cook. yeah. and so maybe if we do a project where i think i can feed a family of five per week for £50. yeah. as long as you put a bit. >> of work. i said that was nonsense. yeah. >> so i took you to aldi. we spent, i think it was £51. yeah. we did an event where we all cooked, batch cooked, and it worked out that each portion was £0.30. >> i remember that because we had five different recipes. yep. i think one was like a sausage casserole. then there was curry. >> yeah. so it was simple stuff. >> yeah. so it was simple stuff. >> simple stuff. >> simple stuff. >> and we made a nice. >> and we made a nice. >> 172 meals for £50. and it comes to £0.30 a portion. >> yeah. and then instead of like people going, you know what, that was a good thing you did. yeah. they didn't. they just jumped on you and said, oh, you said that you could feed a family of five for £0.30 a week, which is like nonsense. i mean, i don't get it. like you're trying to do something good. you're trying to do stuff in your area that's good. and people jump on you and give. >> you the food bank was volunteering that dave. they had

this like policy at the time where if you had a food policy, you had to well, they encouraged you had to well, they encouraged you to enrol on a cooking coui'se. >> course. >> to give you a card with recipe cards and stuff. >> cards and budgeting to help people, you know, buy the right vegetables, the right cuts of meat. >> this is another reason you got like, crap for it, because like you were saying and the same thing i was saying, it's like people need educating because like the old saying, isn't it take a duck to water, take a duck. >> to water. it's not. >> that one. >> that one. >> teach a man to. >> fish, yeah, it's similar. >> fish, yeah, it's similar. >> but animals aren't they? >> but animals aren't they? >> it's true. because, like, if people never know how to cook, they're never going to get out of that poverty. >> yeah. so why can't people cook these days? >> dave i personally i think food education is more important than maths, science, english, it in schools. i think it should be a mandatory subject to year 11 because no matter what job you're doing, you could be a politician, you could be whatever i do, but you need to know how to cook. yeah. and i think it just needs to happen, doesn't it? like it's more important. i mean, you need to know how to cook more than i, you know. >> i mean, i've had some of your

meals before when you worked in. >> rubbish, aren't they? >> rubbish, aren't they? >> no, they were nice. they cooked steak and actually now you're not working at the restaurant anymore, but you're not doing you're going to people's houses, big posh houses at the weekend. and yeah, you're cooking the meals for the friends and the family. >> yeah. no, it's going really well. >> how did that start? >> how did that start? >> just a bit bored doing social media. it's good, but i didn't really have a routine and i kind of i was a bit depressed and especially after doing the show, i was quite depressed with what i was quite depressed with what iseen i was quite depressed with what i seen and stuff. so i thought, i seen and stuff. so i thought, ineed i seen and stuff. so i thought, i need to do something that's like keeping my mind occupied. and i was losing my cooking skills and i didn't want to because it's all i've ever done. so yeah, i went, i thought, i'll do it. i didn't know how it would go. and i'm fully booked now till after may. so, so really enjoying it. i've been some big houses. >> big houses locally. >> big houses locally. >> all around. so nottinghamshire, derbyshire but mainly like nottinghamshire. really. >> yeah. and what's the, what's the main request you get. which meal do you do them. >> oh. blade of beef. slow cooked blade of beef. that's a really good one. wild mushrooms on toast for starter i love that. >> yeah. wild mushrooms.

>> yeah. wild mushrooms. >> what would you order? >> what would you order? >> i'll tell you what i had the other week for the first time, and i might seem a bit posh now. i was in notting hill and i. i didn't bump into matthew sterling, thank goodness. i was ianed sterling, thank goodness. i was invited to a restaurant by a reform supporter, and we had tagliatelle. i said that right. yeah, yeah, but with truffles. >> it's nice, isn't it? works well, doesn't it? adam? >> adam brooks was smiling in the background. you can't have that while you're training, adam. you've changed. >> he's going to treat me to a pie and liquor in a bit. but that is. >> but that was beautiful, mate. i've never tried it before. it looked very simple to me. some of the simplest dishes are probably the most tastiest. >> are you still cooking? are you doing out? >> no. not really. >> no. not really. >> you're missing a good cook, though, aren't you? >> no. terrible. that's why we have got chefs. >> you'll be watching this, you know. >> shares in the local chinese. local chinese, mate. that's where we go for nights. yeah. look. but, you know, moving forward, you've just done this show and you, we spoke about it earlier. go back to where you come from. what about their cooking skills in them places? >> goat. goat. goat. breakfast, lunch and dinner. it was nice

for the first day. and then it was. >> just first day. >> just first day. >> go all day, every day. yeah. and it gets to a point where you've had enough. it's either that or falafel for some reason. >> yeah. there you go. they've got to be quite creative though, aren't they. in places. >> they ain't got a lot. that's what mossad like. they haven't got all the ingredients. they haven't got a lot of things. but to be fair, the hospitality over there is unbelievable. i think we should take a few hints actually, because they're so nice, so kind, you know. >> right. dave, we've got you behind the bar. i know you've poured pints before, so get the pint pot there. the coloured ones. >> yep. >> yep. >> we're going to put you on the easiest one which is a neck oil. neck oil. one of my favourite tipples. we've got to pull a pint in in 30s. >> easy. there you go. >> easy. there you go. >> there you go. i want to give that a ten out of ten. you don't use a straw, use a proper scraper. >> if you've got a scrape. >> if you've got a scrape. >> you've just made a mess of adam. >> i have made a mess. actually. he's gonna tell me off, but i. >> try to try. it's a good point. let's have a try. that is my favourite tipple. >> and we could share pints now

cause there's no covid, so we're all right. oh. >> that's gorgeous. >> that's gorgeous. >> really good. >> really good. >> i could drink loads of that. but, dave, fast forward five years when you are 30. yep, 535. what are you going to be doing then. because you can't you can't keep up your social media forever, can you? >> to be honest, i'm really enjoying the private dining, so possibly more tv work. so i. >> think that could become a business like a proper business. private dining. >> i think. so, i mean, people want it. i mean, i didn't realise how people actually wanted it, but like i say, i'm fully booked. i'm turning people away. >> and where do you advertise for that? >> just on my facebook. just facebook. yeah. and then it's word of mouth, like everything like i do. i post like a, like a picture of what i've done. and then people are like, oh. and then people are like, oh. and then people are like, oh. and then people i've cooked for, they'll tell other people. so and i look after people as well. and i don't charge a ridiculous amount either. i mean, some private chefs charge like £90 a head.i private chefs charge like £90 a head. i told 4040. that includes ingredients, cause i want it to be available to everybody. i don't want it to be available just for the mega—rich. i want it to be available cause it's not my sole income. yeah. where if it was, i'd probably have to

charge more. but because it isn't, i can charge less. and it can be available to normal working families. >> and any plans to move out of ashfield? >> no, i love it. so to if people come down here much. london. it's all right. i can't. >> give you a challenge now then dave, you're in adam brookes pub in buckhurst. >> you're a lovely pub by. >> you're a lovely pub by. >> the way. it's a lovely pub. great people that come in here. and if somebody came in now, you had to rustle them up a quick, a quick dinner, a wholesome dinner, cheaply. what would it be? >> beans on toast. >> beans on toast. >> oh come on. >> mate. >> mate. >> something a bit more. a bit more creative. >> than that. i'd probably do stew. >> a stew. >> a stew. >> cheap, easy to do. i mean, like like with families, especially if you're struggling financially. like get some slow cookers. yeah. chuck it all in it. morning. go to work, do the school run, come back fresh. what about air fryers? i hate them, i can't see why i can't stand them. i mean, they're good. yeah, but i've been classically trained, like french, classically trained, and like, i've tried to do chips in one once and i ended up throwing it. bin. yeah. so not for me. >> there's chef dave classically trained chef dave thanks for

coming all the way down here. >> to inviting. >> to inviting. >> me down. and good luck with the show that's on. is it on channel 4. advertise channel 4. can we do that. it's on channel 4. when's it on next. >> this monday is the last final episode, but you can catch up on it's all on online now, so catch up. >> dave. thanks. >> dave. thanks. >> thank you for inviting me down. >> thank you. orders with chef dave, not dave the chef dave, thanks for joining me dave, not dave the chef dave, thanks forjoining me on the real world. it's been another great show with some great guests. but coming up next we've got state of the nation. >> we'll see a cold snap. oh which will quickly develop into a warm front. boxt boiler repairs sponsors of weather on gb news. >> good evening. here's your latest gb news. weather forecast from the met office. looking ahead to the weekend and saturday is going to be the driest, brightest day for many before some heavy rain and strong winds arrive on sunday. but before this, well, we have had a couple of frontal systems push through today. most of the rain associated with that is now clearing away, but in the southeast, a frontal wave means we're going to see more heavy at times. persistent rain as we go

through overnight and into tomorrow. elsewhere, it's a dner tomorrow. elsewhere, it's a drier story. some showers, though, towards the northwest of the uk. some clear skies here, elsewhere, quite cloudy at times and with that temperatures not dropping a huge amount. perhaps a little bit lower than some recent nights, but most places holding up in mid to high single figures. so not an especially chilly start to the day tomorrow, but it is going to be quite a wet one, particularly across parts of east anglia and kent. otherwise largely dry across much of england and wales, though fairly cloudy. a greater chance of some sunshine early on across parts of northern ireland and scotland, but western areas will have a scattering of showers, and some of these could be a little bit on the heavy side, particularly as we go into the afternoon. i am expecting a few more showers to develop now through much of the morning across england and wales, away from the southeast it is going to be generally dry, but a few more showers across parts of wales southwest england are likely to pep up as we go into the afternoon, and there's a good chance that some of these could be quite heavy and spread

a bit further eastwards whilst the rain in the southeast clears away. temperatures down a degree or so compared to today, but with some brighter skies, light winds. if anything it will feel a bit more pleasant. not so pleasant. on sunday we have some heavy rain and strong winds pushing in from the west. rainfall totals could really build up, particularly across parts of south wales. do stay up to date with our warnings as there's a chance that we may need to escalate them in some places, and we have strong winds with coastal gales, perhaps gusts in excess of 60 to 70mph for some. so a really unsettled day ahead. bye bye. >> we can expect clear skies leading to a light and warm day ahead. lovely boxt solar

>> hello. good evening, i'm christopher hope. gb news is political editor covering state of the nation now. coming up tonight, a leaked letter seen by

gb news reveals keir starmer wants to toughen up immigration to win back votes from reform uk is ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy a dictator like donald trump? says reform uk leader nigel farage thinks not. meanwhile, wes streeting condemns a loophole that allows doctors to change their gender to have past wrongdoings scrubbed from the public record. plus has been revealed by tony blair's think tank that labour is overestimating the number of jobs to be created from net zero. state of the nation starts right now. we'll see. i'm also joined this fight by my panel. senior reporter ellie wheatley and political journalist and broadcaster zoe grunwald. as even broadcaster zoe grunwald. as ever, please let me know your thoughts, your views.

gbnews.com/electionparty. but now it's time for the news with sam francis. >> very good evening to you. the top story from the newsroom at 8:00. well, donald trump has accused emmanuel macron and keir starmer of doing nothing to end