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where police have now city, where police have now sealed off the site and are carrying out their searches. and it comes just hours after a teenager was arrested on suspicion of planning a separate attack on the israeli embassy in the german capital. so we will keep across any developments on that story and bring it to you. turning now to news here at home and reform uk's deputy leader richard tice has slammed labour, claiming they failed to take immigration seriously and dismiss working class voters. it comes after a letter seen by gb news reveals sir keir starmer told his ministers to admit his party ignored working people's concerns about immigration for too long. the prime minister says politicians have also become too scared to acknowledge that some migrants are genuine refugees and some aren't. he warns labour must stop patronising voters and counter the rise of reform's policies. and he's pledged to stand up for ordinary people who feel shut out and ignored. and an update on pope francis. he is being
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treated for double pneumonia but remains stable, according to his doctor. they confirmed that the pontiff is not in danger of death, but stressed that his recovery is ongoing. that's the latest news from the newsroom for now. i'll be back with you in an hour. now, though, let's get back to lee. >> for the very latest gb news direkt, your smartphone. sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , or go to qr code, or go to gbnews.com/advent alerts. >> all. >> all. >> welcome to the anderson's real world. i'm lee anderson, the reform uk member of parliament for ashfield, and joining me tonight the very lovely, the gorgeous lizzie cundy. thanks for coming back on.and cundy. thanks for coming back on. and this week our left in the corner is back. he's been released from the care home. it's stephen pound. he's got three drinks there and he's had three drinks there and he's had three already. former labour mp thanks for coming on steve and thanks for coming on steve and thanks for coming on steve and thanks for the gifts by the way. we'll chat about that later. little bit naughty of you.
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>> can you keep that to yourself? i'll keep that to myself. >> i won't declare that on my register of interest. but look, guys, this week she's up to her old tricks again, steve. and this is all. sultana. sultana, member of parliament. independent member of parliament. she was a labour mp. she had the whip taken off her, but still a labour party member, by the way. and she's been saying some pretty awful things about reform uk. and she said in about reform uk. and she said in a statement to gb news , as a statement to gb news, as a born and bred brummie whose parents suffered the violent consequences of far right politics, i speak for many in this proud, multicultural city when i say reject the politics of hatred and division. in my view, based on the comments they have made, that's us reform uk publicly about muslims and migrants reform uk. and by the way, our chairman is a muslim. reform uk is comparable to the national front and the british national front and the british national party. we pushed back against them before and we'll do
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it again. reform uk is a part is a party bankrolled by billionaires led by ex—banker pubuc billionaires led by ex—banker public school boys. its leader boasts of being the only politician in britain keeping thatcher's legacy alive. the same thatcherism that decimated pit villages and post—industrial towns across the midlands, leaving generational scars. look, it goes on a little bit longer. i'm not sure what. i'm not sure. >> i've heard enough, if you don't mind. >> okay, then. steve, over to you. this is a labour party member, was a labour mp, got elected on a labour ticket and i'm quite sure there's quite a few in the labour party still in the commons now, will pretty much agree with what zara's having to say. >> well, let's face it, as you say, sultana is currently not. i mean actually that goes well, doesn't it? she's not actually a labour doesn't take the labour whip. but look, i suspect that you know rather more about pit villages than she does. and i think there's a saying that once you start talking about the nazis and the national front, you've lost the argument because you've lost the argument because you've you've got to throw that
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in, i think, to compare a legitimate political party to an illegitimate force is completely absurd. however, what you're seeing all over europe, i think, is a move to the left and to the right. and i think there's no question that there's a group within parliament now. and you know, that this present group who've just signed this latest letter to the prime minister, it's people like jeremy corbyn and richard burton, there is a move to the left. and i think to a certain extent, reform is a move to the centre right. but from my point of view as an old labour and a very old labour member, very old, the labour party i joined was socially conservative, economically liberal and to be honest, you know, she could accuse us of being on the right. labour mps used to be she does not represent the mainstream, the warp and weft. >> are you trying to say that the old labour party is a bit like the new reform uk party? >> good god no. i think there are certain aspects of traditional labour that you and i let's be honestly, we agree on. >> yes we do. lizzie, you've seen this tweet is, you know, of the lunatics taken over the asylum once again. >> well, it seems so. i'm disgusted with this. i think it's offensive. i think it's
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sinister. and most of all, i think it's dangerous. incites, you know, division. it could incite violence. and most of all, it's not true. and i think she's inept. i don't think she knows what is going on in this country. >> what it is. lizzie, what led to this response to gb news was a tweet that zara put out was basically a picture of nigel with some graphics on nigel farage that is advertising the date of our conference in birmingham next, next month, the 28th of march, i think it is. and basically saying we're waiting for you. >> well, can you imagine if nigel did that to her, put a cross through and look what actually happened to nigel when he was campaigning. he had that milkshake thrown at him. could have been a lot worse. we've already had two mps assassinated. does she not realise the danger she could be creating? this woman is a disgrace. i am absolutely livid with this. and really, how about i look at the polls? because reform are the largest growing
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british political party we have? they are, and they are doing so well. 27% in the polls are. laboun well. 27% in the polls are. labour, i think are down at 24, conservatives at 20. >> stephen, you're of a certain age. i think you're a little bit younger than my parents who are still rattling about, well, probably watching this right now. but, you know, for them, ex—labour voters voted tory for the first time in 2019, voted for me and reform uk. these have been labelled. these are my parents. you know that's put a shift in gone to work for 4050 years. you know my grandparents fought in the wars. great grandparents fought in the first world wars. they're calling us these these horrible names. >> well, i mean, i hate to agree completely with lizzie cundy because normally we disagree quite violently, but i have to say she's she's nailed it. absolutely nailed it. this woman is a disgrace. but have a look at what happened in america. why did people desert the democrats in america? partly it was because of a perception that they had completely lost that contract that every political party should have with the electorate. and i think there are certain aspects of the
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labour party, not the majority by a long way, but a small percentage of them who are simply out of contract with the public. and i think the evidence is that you've now got, what, 200,000 members? >> 210,000. >> 210,000. >> all right. sorry. as of when i left the house this morning in. >> one year. stephen, we've amassed over 200,000 members in just. >> one year. if she's saying if zarah sultana is saying that over 200,000 people are national front and bnp sympathisers, then well, frankly, you know, she's made an absolute bigger fool of herself than i thought she was capable of. >> lizzie, i mean, unbelievable. i mean, 4 million voted for reform, as you say. the members are growing day by day, you know, so she's saying a quarter of the british electorate are far right mps. that's what she's saying. which to me is totally offensive. this woman needs to go. i don't want to ever see her again. it is so wrong. and imagine anyone else doing that through someone. that black line thatis through someone. that black line that is so wrong to do that. it's nasty, it's evil, it's
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sinister. >> so, steve, stephen, you played a big role >> so
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