give up his position willing to give up his position as president for peace in ukraine or a nato membership. zelenskyy says it's not his dream to remain president for a decade. his comments come as eu leaders are due to meet in ukraine tomorrow. sir keir starmer has urged donald trump to stand by ukraine with a security guarantee, and warned a bad peace deal would be a disaster for everyone. writing in the sun on sunday, sir keir starmer said kyiv needs strong security guarantees so peace will last and also says america must be part of that guarantee. the pope is still receiving a high flow of oxygen but has suffered no further crisis. vatican sources say today pope francis has asked for prayers as he continues to receive treatment in hospital for double pneumonia. the 88 year old spent a tranquil night in hospital in rome, according to the vatican. it described his condition as critical for the first time yesterday, reporting he'd also needed blood transfusions. in other news, the polls in germany have closed, with the exit poll

predicting that the conservative christian democrats will be the biggest party with 28.5% and the afd are on as much as 20% of the vote. looking for second place and social democrats are on i6.5%. it and social democrats are on 16.5%. it comes as the nation grapples with economic decline and a succession of highly publicised attacks on their streets. elsewhere, a body has been found in the search for missing runner jenny hall. missing runnerjenny hall. durham police said a body was found in a very remote area in teesdale this morning, and there are not thought to be any suspicious circumstances. the 23 year old was last seen leaving her home at barracks farm in county durham on tuesday. while formal identification has not yet taken place, mrs. hall's family have been notified. and a teenage boy has been stabbed in front of shoppers in a primark store in nottingham city centre.

nottinghamshire police said the 17 year old is in hospital with serious injuries after being stabbed in the chest this morning. officers believe there was an altercation outside the store between a group of young people before the attack happened.a people before the attack happened. a suspect then fled in the direction of market square. those are the latest ipp news headlines. for now, i'm tatiana sanchez. more news from me in an houn >> for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone. sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com/advent. >> good morning and welcome to the camilla tominey show here on gb news. i'm delighted to be joined in the studio by education secretary bridget phillipson. today i'm going to be asking her about her ongoing war of words with britain's

strictest headteacher, katharine birbalsingh. shadow defence secretary james cartlidge will be here to discuss defence spending under the tories, and whether british troops should be sent to ukraine. i'm also going to be speaking to israel's deputy foreign minister, sharren haskel, to discuss the bbc's coverage of the conflict in gaza and the appalling murders of an israeli mother, toddler and baby in hamas captivity. as ever, we have got a cracking 90 minutes of punchy politics lined up for you this morning, so don't even think of going anywhere. the education secretary, bridget phillipson, joins us now in the gb news studio. lovely to see you in the flesh. minister, thank you for coming in. i'm glad you're here in person, because i want you to address some of the concerns that katharine birbalsingh, the headteacher of the community school in wembley, raised with us a couple of weeks ago and i

wanted to give you a right of reply, because there's been this war of words between you. she claims you're a marxist. what's your reaction to that? i mean, do you consider that to be an inqu do you consider that to be an insult first of all? >> well, i think it will be a surprise to people that know me well. certainly a surprise to me. i've never really had my politics characterised in that way. i think what i would say, just generally, is i think that she has done a tremendous job, and i want to hear from school leaders across the country who have driven up standards in their schools and are really focused on the best life chances for children. i meet with school leaders every day. i really appreciate the chance to have quite open, frank conversations about what's working, what needs to change. but i also think that's done best on a basis of behind closed doors and on a private basis. >> all right. although sources close to you did sort of brief to the press that she had behaved badly in this meeting, that it didn't go very well, that it didn't go very well, that she had behaved. i think the word used was disgraceful at

some point. what went on in this meeting, did you just not get on? >> i'm really not going to provide a lot of detail on this, partly because i, i really do value the chance to speak with school leaders both out in the country when i'm visiting schools, but also in the department for education on a really open but also private basis, because i think that's where we can have the best kinds of conversations. yeah. >> a couple of questions on it. she claims that you hate academies and had always in opposition voted against academisation. is that true? >> i think academies which were started under the last labour government, of course, the academies programme have been a tremendous part of how we have delivered better life chances for children. what i'm focused on at the moment now, however, is making sure that the excellence that exists in some pockets is spread right across all schools, and that's why the focus that we are bringing on school standards is to those 600 schools that are stuck. so schools that are stuck. so schools that are stuck. so schools that where we know they haven't been performing as they should, where there hasn't been a focus on rising standards. and that's why we're putting in place more support into those schools with expert advisers,

our rise teams, people with a track record in education of turning around schools. so i think academies have delivered some amazing innovation, but i want that to be spread across the country. >> to be fair, i made that point to miss birbalsingh. i said she's worried about losing autonomy because she said, we're running a really good school here, and we're doing that because we've got choice, freedom of choice. presumably this is tailored to the schools that aren't that well run. you want to take more government control over them because you think that that autonomy is a bad thing. in some cases. >> we'll intervene more rapidly in schools that are not performing. absolutely. i would just add, however, that that appues just add, however, that that applies to schools that are run by local councils as well as schools that are academies, because sadly, some schools that are academies are not performing as they should or as we would or as they should or as we would or as parents would expect. but the changes that we're bringing in through the bill are things like, for example, requiring all new teachers coming into a school to be either qualified or to be working towards becoming a qualified teacher. i think your viewers would expect that, you

know, the teacher at the front of the classroom is either qualified or on the path to qualification, because i think teaching is a really valuable and valued profession. we should recognise the training, the professionalism, the quality of our teaching workforce, investing in them as we are doing. but also, if we're to do that, then i think it's a fairly, you know, reasonable expectation. this is about a core set of expectations that wherever you are in the country, you can be guaranteed as a parent that the teacher is qualified, that there's a good national curriculum, and that you have a school that is focused on better life chances for all children. >> are you going to visit michaela? >> i'm always open to visiting schools. of course i will always. and in addition, meet with school leaders in the department as well as out across the country. >> okay, so you're not ruling that out. >> i would never rule out visiting any school. >> opened openly, invited you on this show and others to go and visit michaela if you want to. >> sure. >> sure. >> on schools in general and the children's wellbeing and schools bill, which has been described by the opposition leader kemi

badenoch as a legislation that amounts to educational vandalism, there could be the argument, and i appreciate labour have been very, very critical of the tories 14 years of power. but at the same time, actually school standards have improved under the conservatives, haven't they? i mean, i think there is now, according to the oecd, a sort of record performance by english schools, at least in maths. so the question might be if it isn't broke, then why fix it? >> so there are real strengths within our education system, and i think that is where there has been consensus over many years about, for example, investing in our teaching workforce because we know the single biggest way you can improve outcomes for children is by really high quality teaching. but alongside that, other changes that have stood the test of time, like ofsted, making sure there is clear accountability around schools, although we're setting out reform in that space as well. what i would say just on the bill more widely is that the bill has is the single biggest piece of child protection legislation in a generation, something i know that is of concern to your viewers and people across the country. how do we do more to prevent child

exploitation, child sexual abuse? and there are lots of measures in the bill on that. alongside that, practical measures in the bill to cut the cost of school uniform for parents, we're putting more money back into their pockets and delivering breakfast clubs in our primary schools. and i'm setting out today our plan to deliver the first 750 early adopters free new breakfast clubs in schools across england that will make such a big difference to children's life. chances are soft start to the day. i've seen the difference breakfast clubs can make, and i want more children and parents to have that benefit. and on the schools measures, there are strengths in our system. absolutely. but let's be clear, there are real problems within there are real problems within the system too. too many children, including children with special educational needs, are not getting the outcomes that they deserve. we've got a big gap between outcomes for children from poorer families and better off families, something that did not improve in the way that it should have done under the conservatives and to our position in in international rankings. you've got to tread a bit with a bit of

care on the rankings. and the conservatives were told about this because it's a relative measure. what is clear, however, is that actually we're falling in terms of performance by way of scores. so yes, i will always celebrate and recognise what's working really well, but i think there's just such complacency from the conservatives more interested in defending their record than on delivering better life chances for children. >> today on the breakfast clubs front, isn't it parents responsibility primarily to make sure that their children have had breakfast in the morning? >> yes, of course parents have responsibilities. what this does is it will give parents more choices at the start of the working day, because i think everybody knows that your childcare needs don't end when your children start at primary school. so it will give parents more choice. it will provide really important childcare as well as that healthy start to the day. but the evidence is clear that breakfast clubs are it's about the club, not just the breakfast. there is evidence, clear evidence about the impact breakfast clubs have on children's attendance at school, their behaviour, their

wellbeing. i think that's a really important for all children and coming out of the pandemic, you know, we know that lots of children haven't spent the same amount of time with their friends. the same amount of time with theirfriends. it's the same amount of time with their friends. it's a chance to build those friendships, build confidence. and some of the examples i've seen have been not just the breakfast, but children having the chance to take part in reading activities. lego sports activities. this is a fantastic opportunity for children and for parents. >> and you were talking earlier about cien. we know that some sen children who are in private schools have been adversely affected by the decision to put vat on fees. we know that some schools have closed down. we should perhaps also point out that these private schools are also paying now higher employers, national insurance fees and indeed higher business rates. if private schools have closed down as a result of this policy. you can't claim it to have been a success, can you? >> private schools, i'm afraid to say, are close every year under any government. >> because of this policy. and a number of them have said they're closing because of this. if you've come out with a policy in

education that has ended up closing schools down and making teachers redundant, it can't be deemed a success, can it? >> this policy will raise a significant amount of money that we can then use to. >> invest in things. >> invest in things. >> but can you. >> but can you. >> just address that point? school closures on a education secretary's watch are are a bad thing, aren't they? >> look, private schools closed every year until the last conservative government. they close all. >> the time. >> the time. >> but they close all the time. because parents have got choices as to where they choose to educate their children. >> writing this policy as to why they've closed. >> their fees have gone up, you know, year after year, way beyond inflation. pricing out parents. >> but listen, how can you be happy that any schools are closing on your watch? private state in this case, it's private and they're citing this policy. how can you possibly advocate that? because you're not just talking about schools closing pupils, then having to go into the state system. you're also talking about teachers losing their jobs. >> so private theirjobs. >> so private schools, as i say, close every year. and they did

under the conservatives. private schools are independent businesses. they prize that. >> so it's okay for schools. >> so it's okay for schools. >> to close that dependence. well, of course no one would want to see that happen. but we do face alongside this both in the state and the private sector, a falling birth rate. and that is going to have consequences in the years to come. it's why we've got already significant numbers of spare places across the country because of that falling birth rate. but private schools, as businesses will face choices as to how they manage, as to how they manage their money. but alongside that, parents have got choices. parents have got choices. parents have got choices as to how they spend their money. and of course, if theyif their money. and of course, if they if they choose not to opt for a particular school and demand falls, that is how the market operates. >> okay, so that seems to me, to me to seem to you to be concluding that it's okay that some private schools close. i you're happy to see private school closures. >> i don't want disruption to children's education if that were to result. but private schools, as i say, have closed in significant numbers for many,

many years. this is not a new phenomenon. >> okay. keir starmer is doing giving a speech today. and he's going to be saying that reform represents dangerous right wing politics. what's dangerous about right wing politics? >> i think what we've seen with reform, just take, for example, an issue that will have be of concern to your viewers around how we continue to back the ukrainian people and president zelenskyy in their hour of need. i think reform have been very equivocal in the approach that they have been taking. this is a key issue around our national security. it's why the prime minister later this week will be visiting the us to underline our commitment, not just to the special relationship with the us, but also the fact that we believe that britain and our european allies need to play a greater role in european defence and security. >> so on that note, is defence spending definitely going up? >> defence spending is already going up at the budget. the chancellor put an extra £3 billion into the budget. >> there's been talk now of getting it to that 2.5 figure that was committed to by the

conservatives by 2028, now, not 2030. >> we know, we know we need to further increase defence spending. i think that is very, very clear. and alongside that, we are committed to reaching 2.5% of gdp. we'll be setting out the pathway towards that. but what we also need to do is make sure that we're backing the ukrainian people and the conflict that is happening as we speak. and that's why every year we are committing £3 billion of additional investment to support that effort to put ukraine in the strongest possible position. and this isn't just this isn't simply a distant conflict that has no effect on people here. this is in the interest not just of the continent around freedom and democracy, but it's also had big consequences here in terms of energy bills, for example, the instability that is being caused. and we believe that the british government should step up and play a bigger role. and that's why we do welcome the approach of president trump and bringing parties to the negotiating table in seeking to secure an enduring and lasting settlement for ukraine. >> all right. bridget phillipson, thank you very much

indeed for joining phillipson, thank you very much indeed forjoining me this indeed for joining me this morning.

shadow defence secretary james cartlidge joins me now. thank you very much indeed for joining me. mr cartlidge, we've seen the letter from kemi badenoch to keir starmer basically urging for more defence spending to be announced before starmer heads to washington for his meeting with donald trump on thursday. but i need to put it to you, mr cartlidge, that i'm wondering whether the tories actually have a leg to stand on when it comes to defence spending in real terms. defence spending fell by 22% between 2009 and 10 and 2016 and 17 . spending as a share of

and 17. spending as a share of gdp was at its lowest in 2015. that was when the tories were in power, and between then and now, defence spending has only increased in real terms by a total of 8.5 billion. so actually defence spending has gone down under. the tories watch not up. >> well, if you go back to the end of the last labour government, back in 2010, obviously the challenge we had then as a country is that we faced bankruptcy. essentially the chief secretary of treasury, who is in charge of public finances under labour, had left a note for us that there's no money left. so we did have to take very difficult and painful decisions. actually, the labour government were planning, if they won, to cut defence spending by 25%. so yeah, we did have to take some difficult decisions then. but the thing i would stress is that, you know, you look at 2019 when boris johnson became prime minister, the threat position was already starting to worsen and we had the biggest sustained increase in defence spending since the cold war, when it went up to 2.3%. it's been sustained at

that level since. we do think given what's happening, it does need to go up again. >> okay, so considering that admission, then do you admit now that it was a mistake not to invest more in defence spending? i appreciate what you're saying about the austerity years. i also appreciate what you're saying about what labour are planning to do. but that was under jeremy corbyn, which probably isn't the closest comparator to sensible politics. so do you now regret that you didn't spend more on defence? >> camilla, just just to clarify, i was talking about jeremy corbyn. i was talking about had labour won in 2010, they had a plan which was to cut defence spending by 25%. >> okay. i'm sure that jeremy corbyn may well have doubled down on that pledge when he ran for office. but in terms of the tories own record, then mr cartlidge, just in light of everything that donald trump has said in recent days, do you now regret that the tories didn't invest more on defence spending? >> well, the challenge for the country at the time was to get the books in order. we were

facing terrible financial crisis, just to put it in context, because i think a lot of people aren't aware of this figure, right. the budget deficit, which is the country's overdraft, which labour inherited when they won the election last july, was 4.4%. it was over ten. it was over 10% in 2010 when we took over. and the difference, if it was, if it was, if it been 10% last july, the difference is about 160 billion. that's the size of the nhs budget last year in england, just to give you a sense of the scale. so yes, we had to make very difficult decisions and obviously we'd rather not have done that. of course we would rather not have done that, but you have to govern in the national interest. and that was the national interest at the time. >> one more question looking backwards, because we must look forward. but the counterargument to that is why on earth did david cameron spend so much on foreign aid? he could have ploughed that money into defence. so you did have choices back then. many people criticised him for putting so much into foreign aid. he did that arguably at the expense of our own defences.

>> well, i mean, look, as you say, we can we can debate the past as long as we want to. i think the key thing is we did have to take some very, very difficult decisions at the time. i also think in the international situation we were in, there was also a bit more of a consensus and not everyone would have agreed with this. at the time, that aid was an important way of helping to improve our security by investing in countries, becoming less unstable abroad, etc. >> didn't really work though. >> didn't really work though. >> didn't really work though. >> did it? of the nation to nation. let me finish. there was less of the nation to nation military threat that we now face today. it's a very serious threat. that doesn't mean i wish we hadn't spent more of the time, but we had to make those difficult decisions. and i say, but the real test here is that you spend according to the threat you face. and in 2019, with the threat picture starting to deteriorate, we increased spending. the first sustained the biggest sustained increase since the cold war to 2.3%, 2.3%, actually significantly more than a lot of other nato countries. but look, we got to the election. if you want to measure, do we think, you know,

how much do we think defence spending should go up by? are we true to our word? well, we still at the general election with the plan to increase again to 2.5%, funded by reducing the size of the civil service. but, you know, i think i think how i would summarise it is this that basically since the second world war, defence spending has been falling, particularly since the end of the cold war. we thought we were in a new era of peace. that's clearly not the case anymore. and so spending is starting to go back up again. and it has to and we have to be open with the country about that. and the letter from kemi badenoch today makes it clear we as a party, are willing to be serious and face up to the difficult decisions you have got to make if you're going to find the money to significantly increase defence spending, as we have to deliver security for our country. >> we could summarise by saying that spending has gone down as the state has got larger under both labour and conservative successive governments. but let's move on to what trump actually said, because i'd like to know from you whether you think he is right or wrong on the following assertions. did the following assertions. did the ukrainians start the conflict in either 2014 or 2022?

>> no. they were invaded by russia. >> okay. is zelenskyy a dictator without elections? >> no. he is a democratically elected leader. he is not holding elections because his country is under martial law, because it is at war. when we were at war, winston churchill didn't hold elections because that was the national interest at the time. >> has ukraine strong armed the united states into spending hundreds of billions of dollars to go into a war that couldn't be won? >> well, america has actually given a huge amount of aid to ukraine. we should recognise that. i think it's tens of billions of dollars. we have also, relative to the size of our military, actually probably been the most generous donor if you if you measure it in those terms and we've given a huge amount of our inventory. we had to do that. it was in our national interest. if ukraine had fallen early and capitulated, i think the world

would be far more dangerous position than it is now. it's not in a good position now, but it would have been, you know, russia's forces would have been right on the edge of nato and threatening us directly. so it was the right thing to do. and i think we should recognise that, that america did give significant aid. >> okay. and what do you make of trump's comment? zelenskyy better move faster. he's not going to have a country left. >> if you've brought me on to go through every one of donald trump's comments, well fair enough. i mean, look, i think i want to step back and say he has his mandate and we respect that. but donald trump was elected president, united states with a clear mandate. he said to his people he wanted to get a peace deal quickly in ukraine, and he is proceeding with his usual vigour to try and achieve that. and we have to represent our national interests in this. and what i would say is i think they overlap, they overlap very strongly. and the key thing i want to see is that when the prime minister, keir starmer, goes out to washington, he stresses that an outcome we must avoid is that if russia is seen

in any way to win from any kind of settlement, should there be one?i of settlement, should there be one? i think that would be bad for the united states and for ourselves and all of nato, because it would send a terrible message to other adversaries, not least china. and i think it would embolden them. >> all right, james cartlidge, thank you very much indeed for joining me this morning. lovely to speak to you.

retired general lord richard dannatt, the former chief of the general staff, joins me now. lord dannatt, thank you very much indeed for your time this morning. i'm going to ask you a fairly straightforward question that probably doesn't have a straightforward answer, but how does this end? how does it end in ukraine? now trump has said

what he said, zelenskyy saying what he said, zelenskyy saying what he's saying. and we've got starmer and trump due to meet in washington on thursday. >> well, as you said, there is no easy answer to this, i'm afraid, in my view. we are in a new, different place to where we were three years ago, with putin having wanted to take over the whole of ukraine, absorb ukraine back into russia, and zelenskyy perfectly reasonably wanting to defend the sovereignty and independence of his country. those positions are irreconcilable and frankly, nothing has really changed. i mean, what is changing in the middle of that is donald trump's desire, his rhetoric, his grandstanding to say that he wants to end the war. now, that's perfectly reasonable and laudable, but the question is how to do it. and he hasn't got a formula as to how to do it. what he's pressing for is some kind of ceasefire, but a ceasefire would probably be the worst outcome at the present time. yes, of course, the killing would stop and the and the consumption of ammunition

and all the rest of it would stop. but the effect that that would have, would then be to give time back to the russians to reconstitute their armed forces, to regather their strength and consider either pressing again in a new offensive in ukraine, or even worse than that, pressing somewhere else against another european country that has a common border with russia. and it's all that thinking which is behind the pressure that so many of us have been trying to argue the case for, for not just months, but for years that we in this country and other european countries should increase their defence spending to make sure that not that we're capable of fighting a war, but we've got a sufficiently capable set of armed forces that we can deter further aggression from russia. that's what this is really all about. and that's why, yes, it's good to move eventually to 2.5% of gdp, but 3 or 3.5% is actually nearer the mark. >> so, lord dannatt, i can't be the only person that's quite

confused about president trump's stance in all this. on one hand, it does look as if he is handing some kind of victory to putin. if putin can walk away with what is effectively stolen ukrainian territory. however, the pragmatist in me says, you know, the ukrainian people are tired. they've had enough. the europeans and america haven't given them enough armaments to win this war. they've only given them enough armaments not to lose it completely. and then, equally, what are we saying? are we? are you saying that you think the western world, a little bit like in 2014, is once again being quite naive? this idea. oh, we cede 20% of ukrainian territory back to putin. we put some troops on the ground there in ukraine. we make sure that ukraine is viewed as a sovereign nation, and he will then leave the baltic states alone. is this is this the western world once again being asleep at the wheel? do you think. >> what you've just described there, camilla, is a supreme act of appeasement? and if we go

back to our history books and look at the 1930s, that's exactly what happened then the sudetenland and czechoslovakia were negotiated away between western powers, neville chamberlain in particular, and adolf hitler over the heads of the people that were concerned. and what did that lead to? it didn't lead to peace. it led to war. it led to war largely because we were weak. and here we are again all these years later in the same sort of position. so, i'm afraid, go back to the earlier part of the conversation we were having. i can't see any practical alternative other than countries, hopefully still the united states, but maybe less likely them. but other european countries continuing to support down double down on our support to zelenskyy and ukraine, and never endeavour to allow the ukrainians to be as strong as they can. yes, percent of their country is now in russian hands, but that doesn't mean we should we should give up on the principle of that being sovereign ukrainian territory.

yes, ukraine would like to be an independent country. it would like to be a member of the eu, and one day it would like to be and one day it would like to be a member of nato. that's entirely legitimate. what zelenskyy doesn't want to do is to allow his country to drift back to where it was in the days of the cold war, under russian soviet domination. he is rejecting that form of lifestyle. he wants the kind of lifestyle. he wants the kind of lifestyle that we enjoy in the west, and that's perfectly reasonable, and we have an absolute duty to support them. frankly, what trump does is just mystifying. he may well have duped a sufficient majority of the american people to think that his rhetoric will make america great again. but don't let us get dragged down and let him make the west weak again. frankly, it's not acceptable. and if he's not prepared to be a leader on the world stage, we've got to find some europeans to stand up and show that leadership themselves. >> what do you make so far of keir starmer's leadership on this issue? we've got john healey, the defence secretary, writing in the sunday times today, very much showing his allegiance to president

zelenskyy. how do you think the labour government is handling this? >> well, they're handling it as well as they can, given that they are absolutely hamstrung and caught in the headlights of spending. we've heard so much about the black hole that they inherited from the last government. and frankly, just let's remember that in 2010, when david cameron became prime minister, the then chief secretary of the treasury, the outgoing labour one, left a message on the desk saying there is no money. so we've been there before, so let's not go forward. looking back over our shoulders, let's look at the situation today, which actually is even different from july last year. look at the situation today and say what needs to be done. and if what needs to be done means that we've got to spend more money directly supporting ukraine, spend more money increasing our defence capability, then that's what we've got to do. and if, goodness me, camilla, if that means we've got to put up taxes in this country, shock, horror. let's do it. and you and i and everyone else watching this

programme will have to shoulder some of the burden . when times some of the burden. when times are tough. we all have to tighten our belts and we have to accept sacrifices. and if that's in the greater interest of the security of this country, that's much more important than new hospitals, roads, schools and critical national infrastructure. our security is what matters most. we have to pay what matters most. we have to pay for it. >> and lord dannatt finally, and briefly, we have this situation where you're describing what you think is going on right now as a form of appeasement. so is it overstating it to suggest that starmer, not least because of the lack of leadership in the rest of europe, in france and germany, both on a precipice when it comes to forthcoming elections, does this mean that starmer needs to be the churchill figure here, and is he capable of that? >> well, i don't know whether he's capable, but he has the opportunity. he's going to have a difficult time when he goes to the white house on thursday. but john healey, his defence secretary, are making the right noises. rachel reeves will hate this from a spending point of view. but go back to what i was

saying just now when needs must, then things must be done. this is starmer's opportunity to try and show some churchillian characteristics. and why not? this is a great opportunity. don't be faced down by trump, bullied by trump. britain can stand up, stand up for europe and i think this is his opportunity. so come on keir starmer. give it a good go. >> all right. fair enough. wise words from you as ever. lord dannatt. thank you very much indeed for joining dannatt. thank you very much indeed forjoining me this indeed for joining me this morning on gb news. we're just waiting for keir starmer to speak. he's going to be addressing the scottish labour conference, is going to be speaking about reform of all things before he does that, before i get the go to go live to starmer, just have a quick chat with you. andrew pierce lord dannatt there being, as we would understand, typically hawkish on the military front, can starmer be the churchill figure he needs to be next week in washington? >> it's a noble idea, but i suspect not. he certainly hasn't got the oratorical skills, has he? but what he's got a simple solution. kemi badenoch is written about in one of the papers today. cut foreign aid. >> i did make this point with

james cartlidge. he's going on about the camera. hang on. i think we can now cross live. no, we're just going to look at footage. >> yeah. cut the foreign. >> yeah. cut the foreign. >> aid budget preamble. he's walking onto the stage. i'm going to come to this in just a moment, but carry on. >> cut the foreign aid budget, which is £14 billion a year. you want 6 billion extra? cut it to 8 billion. there we are. done. and you can put that money immediately into defence. >> oh, look, there's a little photo opportunity taking place now, and the prime minister is about to speak in scotland. let's go live to that. >> in glasgow. churchill. >> in glasgow. churchill. >> thank you. thank you. thank you very much. conference. thank you very much. conference. thank you so much. it's really good to be back. i have to admit that after the rugby yesterday, i was after the rugby yesterday, i was a little bit nervous about coming out. but you have to let

us have that one. look, england victory is about as rare as the snp in westminster these days, so we got to have that one, i'm afraid. and thank you neil. that was really fantastic to hear your story telling it from up here. it's really hard to do that. you absolutely smashed it. and neil's mum is here today. you must be so proud. and rightly so. neil, you're showing what a labour government can do, saving harland and wolff, supporting scottish jobs, securing the future of scottish shipbuilding conference. that's the difference that labour makes. and we can only make that difference because of your hard

work. i saw it right here in glasgow when we kicked off the election. i've seen it right across scotland in the campaign, of course, but beyond that, everything the labour movement has achieved past and future, everything comes from the efforts of its people. so that victory in july conference, that's your victory. it belongs to you. you change the future of our country. and i say to you, thank you for your hard work. because of your work, scotland no longer sits on the westminster sidelines. >> can't wait to get in that sea. >> lovely and warm.

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>> welcome back. israel's deputy foreign minister sharren haskel joins me now from israel. miss

haskel, thank you so much for your time this morning. i want to begin by asking you about morning, by asking you about this documentary that the bbc has had to remove from iplayer. it's called gaza how to survive a war zone, and it was subsequently revealed to star the son of a hamas minister, the daughter of a former captain in the hamas run police force, and a third child who has been photographed in the past posing with a hamas fighter carrying an ak 47. what is your reaction to the bbc even putting this documentary out without telling viewers that the children featured in it are linked to hamas? >> well, this is absolutely outrageous. this is pure propaganda that is being promoted by the bbc. hamas propaganda. i mean, they surely knew about it. there is not a chance that they would film

children for an extended period of time without knowing who their parents are, more so the film crew and the photographers, the cameramen that they actually used. if they would have just done a small research on social media, they would see their celebrations and the murder of jews on the 7th of october and on other occasions where jews were attacked or targeted were brutally murdered. and those are the people that the bbc is funding, paying a whole lot of money to actually spread a pure terrorist organisation propaganda. this is just outrageous. and i think that, you know, the most basic and fundamental rule is that the bbc needs to be impartial. and if the bbc is not impartial, then he should then they should be

investigated in deeply. british people, the british, the british pubuc people, the british, the british public shouldn't fund and shouldn't pay for hamas propaganda. >> okay, so let me just drill down into those two areas. first of all, would the israeli government advocate an ofcom investigation into how this documentary came to be made? first of all, ofcom. miss haskel, i'm sure you're aware, is the regulator of tv and broadcasting in this country. >> well, you know, if they declare an investigation, i think this is the first step in a long row of actions that should have been taken previously. when we see for a year and a half that the bbc is reporting, one sidedly is distorting information, also reporting false information that's blackening the face of israel. and we've caught them numerous times. they tried to correct it time after time, but

where is the responsibility of the report from the start? and so i think that should only be the first step in a long investigation and accountability that they have. you know, they have to take. >> okay. and also there is a campaign group called defund the bbc, calling for the bbc to be stripped of its licence fee. what is your view on that in light of how they have covered the events since october the 7th? >> look, i try not to get into internal british issues, but if i would have been a british citizen and my money would have been paying for a terrorist organisation, propaganda, knowing the challenges not just that israel is facing, but the radicalisation all around the world, in europe as well. we've just been through two weeks with numerous terrorist attacks because people were radicalised. and, you know, we should

seriously have an open conversation about it. and i think that it's rightfully that the british people should be concerned where their money go to. >> miss haskell, we have been obviously very, very acutely aware of the return of the bodies of the bibas family this week. that's mrs. shiri bibas and her two children, a toddler aged four, a baby not even one years old. can you just confirm? has mrs. bebe batus body now been returned to israel over a confusion over whose remains were sent back in the original coffin? >> well, you know, the hamas is a murderous, monstrous terrorist organisation. and, you know, we knew it's very difficult to trust them from the start with many issues from the start of the ceasefire, where they broke some of the rules. but that was just monstrous. i can't even

describe, you know, the feeling and everything that israeli people have been through during this weekend. and it's not just that they sent an anonymous palestinian body instead of the mother of those two babies of shiri, you know, it's as a mother in israel with children, babies who were the same age as kfir and ariel. this haunts us knowing that those two babies were strangled with their hands. that's what the terrorists actually did. and then mutilated their bodies so that, you know, to try to deceive the world as if, you know, they they were attacked or anything like that. i can't even imagine what kind of monster you need to be to actually do something like that. and shiri body was returned in the same condition,

unfortunately. and you know what? this is a clear reality that us israelis have to face. when you hear them chanting. when you hear them chanting. when you hear them chanting. when you hear them saying that they want the annihilation of they want the annihilation of the israelis, of the state of israel, of the jews. i believe them. i know that because that's what they're capable of doing. and the world should know they're not joking when those leaders are calling publicly in interviews, on social media, on every platform to brutally murder, execute ourselves, our children. they really mean it. and when we say we need to defend ourselves against those monsters, then i. it means that me as a mother, i need to defend my babies against those monsters that are capable of executing them in the most horrific ways you can ever imagine. >> sharon haskell, we have to

leave it there. but thank you very much indeed for your impassioned words this morning. let's be honest, our hearts have to go out to the father of those children and the husband of mrs. bebe. absolutely horrific for him. i'm going to be back next week at 930, as usual. >> heavy showers first thing will be followed by a warm, cosy day. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> good evening. welcome to your gb news weather update from the met office. well, it's been an unsettled end to the weekend. we have met office warnings in force before sunshine and showers return on monday. taking a look at the bigger picture then we have a deep area of low pressure out towards the northwest. a real squeeze in the isobars indicating strong winds . isobars indicating strong winds. with this cold front sinking

south and eastwards. so there is a met office amber rain warning in force for southern parts of wales. so do take care. could be disruption on the roads but also some flooding. and this band of rain will continue to move south and eastwards through the night. clearer spells behind that across northern ireland and scotland. clear here, but it's going to be a damp but mild start across southern parts of england and parts of wales as we start monday morning. so a damp start monday morning. so a damp start across southern parts of england, but mild temperatures here already at around ten degrees across northern ireland. sunnier spells coming through and across northern parts of england and into scotland. but we'll start to see the return of some showers and some of the showers still could be on the heavy side. so as we go through monday morning and into the afternoon, then that rain clears across southeastern areas. so turning drier for a time with some sunny spells developing. but we'll also see some showers start to bubble up, and some of

these could be on the heavy side. most frequent and heaviest are going to be across northern ireland and parts of scotland, but for most we should see some sunny spells. just feeling pleasant enough in the sunshine. highs of 13 or 14 degrees. so to start tuesday morning we have a band of rain across the southeastern areas once again. behind that we should see some sunny spells, but we'll also see frequent scattered showers developing more widely across many areas on tuesday. similar picture on wednesday, perhaps with some longer spells of rain, but temperatures will return to average with some colder nights to come by. >> expect a warm front moving from the kitchen right through to the rest of the house. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> exciting news. every friday my patrick christys tonight show is going to have a twist to it. we're welcoming some special guests. you. that's right. on fridays, i'm going to be doing my show in front of a live

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>> good evening. this is free speech nation with me josh howie on the show tonight. are you worried about how white your local firefighters are? the bbc has pulled its gaza documentary after one of my guests revealed it to be hamas propaganda. a new investigation reveals grassroots cricket has been engulfed by a transgender row, as biological men are competing in women's matches. elon musk's favourite european party, the afd, is making serious gains in the german elections. oh, and comedians answering some crazy culture developments from a live studio audience. but first, the

news with tatiana sanchez. >> josh, thank you very much. the top stories. pope francis remains in a critical condition and reportedly has mild kidney failure, according to the sun newspaper. he is still receiving a high flow of oxygen but has suffered no further crisis. vatican sources have said today. pope francis has asked for prayers as he continues to receive treatment in hospital for double pneumonia. the 88 year old spent a tranquil night in hospital in rome, according to the vatican. it described his condition as critical for the first time yesterday, reporting he also needed blood transfusions. sir keir starmer and the french president have agreed to both discuss showing unhed agreed to both discuss showing united leadership in support of ukraine when they meet separately with us president donald trump next week, after the pair spoke in a telephone call today. the prime minister and emmanuel macron used a phone

call today to reiterate their support