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and reality. skills shortage and reality. let's have a closer look at those front pages, starting with the times. >> yeah, the times. >> yeah, the times. >> they. >> they. >> mentioned starmer and macron double teaming trump. more on that on the. next paper. but that's just a mental image i thought i'd leave you with. hard right on. >> course for big. >> course for big. >> gains in germany is the main story. >> with these election. you what.7 >> sorry. >> sorry. >> they've been working. >> they've been working. >> out afterwards. >> out afterwards. >> what you've got to do to get. >> what you've got to do to get. >> the big gains. >> the big gains. >> that's the one thing i know about going to the gym and that's about it. so yeah, the interesting the election results. so what we're hearing is that the conservative christian democrat union, they are going to be in first place, but. >> second place could. >> second place could. >> well be this adf. >> well be this adf. >> and it will afd. afd. >> and it will afd. afd. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> think one of them. i think. >> think one of them. i think. >> that's. >> that's. >> where i bought a carpet. >> where i bought a carpet. >> one of it won't make that much of a difference because. fascism is that. if you're building cheaply, it won't make that much of a difference because they're firewalled off. so the odds of them being part of this coalition, as long as there's. >> enough to scrape. >> enough to scrape. >> together to form a coalition, they won't be involved. but, you know, it's interesting. although for the for.
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>> the cdu. >> the cdu. >> probably got that wrong as well. the leader said that. >> his priority will be to. strengthen europe and it. >> could be achieved because it wants independence from. the us. >> because the. >> because the. >> us don't care. >> us don't care. >> yeah. then we found that out over the last couple of days. >> didn't we.7 yeah. >> didn't we? yeah. >> didn't we? yeah. >> we'll mention that in the next story. >> and simon, do you think this this firewall will hold because i mean, in recent months the, the afd have actually i think they helped get a bill through parliament to, to restrict immigration in germany. so, you know, it's not as if they're, you know, the firewall seems to be it seems to be made out of adf as well. it seems to be burning in the heat. >> it'll have. >> it'll have. >> to be found to be made of asbestos and have to be removed. and they're being told, stay, you're not to cross. well, we replaced this firewall. several interesting things. i mean, big european elections, always vastly more complicated than we're used to with our first past the post. build a coalition, then go to the electorate kind of system. and i hope that people who are always campaigning for proportional representation see the sort of mess it can create. certain things which i've been trying to follow it and get into the detail. one of the interesting things there are two small parties, the fdp and the bfw. i
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have no idea what they stand for. if either of them break 5%, then they have to be included in then they have to be included in the calculations and that will create an almost impossible coalition challenge. so they'll be probably having a minority government, and that will obviously make it more possible for the afd to create problems. and also i find this more interesting, but possibly because it plays to a very, very simple, sort of cartoonish image of politics, it is extraordinary the degree to which the afd vote is concentrated in the former eastern germany. it clusters around berlin, which which remains, you know, left wing and disco. yeah, but but the whole of the rest of what was formerly prussia, the. >> and might be again. >> and might be again. >> the source of the whole of german magnificence in the 19th century, spikey helmets and all the rest of it. they are so solidly. and the point of this is so. the afd have won about 20% of the vote, which is roughly what they'd have been
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the minimum they'd have been hoping for. it's not an unbelievable triumph, but it's a solid game. but it is so heavily. if that was dispersed across the whole of germany, you might conceivably say, listen, we you know, we have our cordon sanitaire. it's all very well. you're voting for them, but they're not going to get anywhere near power. but they're being so concentrated in a particular geographic region. yeah, i think it's, it's not a stable it's not a sustainable situation. could you say that they're not involved in in power in discussions about building policy. >> you sort it out with. >> you sort it outwith. >> you sort it outwith. >> a wall. would that in any. >> a wall. would that in any. >> way help? well you could come up with ideas. >> they have a gate. i believe it was every popular rule. >> and of course, i mean their policy. i mean, i think in the uk they're mostly known for their sort of anti—immigration policy. and, you know, with the spate of islamist stabbings that have, you know, hammered europe, particularly germany, that's that's been something that's pushing that lever. but they're also very russian friendly. and maybe this is why, you know, they're so popular in the east.
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but it's also interesting that they're popular, not just geographically focused in the east, but focused amongst the youth, particularly young men, young men really. and we're seeing this across europe, young people who, you know, traditionally have been the, the loftiest of all are really turning to the, to the right. >> it's essentially anyone who's still got any testosterone in the system. >> yeah. that gets. >> yeah. that gets. >> drained away and replaced with various little blue pills. >> it should be. >> it should be. >> there should. >> there should. >> be more. >> be more. >> athletes who are oddly voting right wing. >> yeah, a short. >> yeah, a short. >> putter on svelgen. >> putter on svelgen. >> even even arnie turned left. he didn't. >> he was. >> he was. >> well, yeah. and delinking or whatever they're called. which means. is that the left. so they, they had a surprisingly good result there. they're pushing. >> hard left. >> hard left. >> well there's been. >> well there's been. >> a perception as well against the afd. yeah. >> yeah. but they're really, you know, freakishly, outlandishly, cartoonishly left wing. and you know, everybody always talks about, oh, the threat from the hard right. why is nobody talking about the threat from these freaks? well, i.
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>> mean, i suppose there are historical reasons for being anxious, but more broadly speaking. yeah, i think you're right. well. >> given the history with the berlin wall and everything, you'd be more worried about the left, i don't know. yeah. it's crazy. >> quickly mention. >> quickly mention. >> as well there. >> as well there. >> is the story. >> is the story. >> britain's held by. >> britain's held by. >> taliban for helping women over. >> oven >> 30 teaching them how to be mothers. >> and it. turns out over. there they're not really into women. learning stuff. and that's a shocker isn't it? i mean, obviously upsetting for these, but it reminded me of the story about women aren't even. >> allowed to. >> allowed to. >> look through windows. >> look through windows. >> now that when they banned windows near women. and if you've already. >> got if. >> got if. >> you've got a house that's got a window near a woman, the advice was build another wall. they don't have blind technology out there. they need another wall out there. >> so it's not they're not allowed to use windows as in the only. vista that. >> the torture. >> the torture. >> of women over. there's too much. they're only allowed windows vista. or you could make a. >> fortune if you took curtains to afghanistan. and said, have you tried these? look, when you're getting changed. or washing some potatoes. yeah. and just draw these and we've. >> got them. well obviously.
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>> got them. well obviously. >> we've got the daily telegraph as well. simon with the zelenskyy saying he's, he could possibly quit his job. >> yes. the trouble with the daily telegraph when it arrives in this organisation is we get it on a, on an a4 sheet in which it's typed becomes so impossibly small. anything from the bottom line. i am kind of guessing about what it said, but i think it says volodymyr zelenskyy has said for the first time he is ready to give up the ukrainian presidency, if doing so were to deliver peace. and also he said he would give it up in exchange for nato membership. now, i don't think realistically nato membership is on the cards. in fact, i don't think even many brits. i don't think keir starmer would like nato membership to become immediately profit, because that would plunge us into war. we would be immediately responsible for their defence and. >> that contravenes the rules of nato. a country at war can't can't save a country with other, you know, other countries, soldiers inside its borders can't. >> absolutely try and get insurance. >> after a crash. >> after a crash. >> exactly the same. >> exactly the same. >> but it is interesting, i have to say, and maybe this just, you
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know, demonstrates that my feeble grasp of the situation, but the rhetoric is just sliding all over the place at the moment, isn't it? it's like trying to rig a sail in a gale, you know, and it's almost impossible to understand what anyone might actually be hoping to achieve. ignore what they're saying. ignore the above the line, you know, content of the rhetoric. it's also hard to understand what might be below the line. i think i had some some time for the idea that that trump was essentially firing warning shots across zelenskyy's bow, that he would have to take the process that was coming in seriously. yeah. so by sort of essentially excluding him from the negotiations, he forced him to say, no, i want to be a part of the negotiations where if he'd said, would you like to come and have some negotiations, zelenskyy would have said, no, i want to carry on with the war. do you see what i mean? so there was that kind of calculation, but, you know, very hard at this point to decide. >> well, yeah, i mean, steve sort of optimistically hoped that might be the reason trump is saying it. but now i'm kind of i'm kind of thinking that trump might just be really
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capricious and sort of running the world like a 14 year old girl runs a high school. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> i think you should have lost. >> i think you should have lost. >> that faith. >> that faith. >> when? >> when? >> before. even before the like just after the phone call. but any talks happened. they were already giving ground, going, well, you can't expect to have all the territory back and oh, we're going to have american. >> troops there. surely they'd. >> troops there. surely they'd. >> be things you'd be mentioning in the negotiation. i'm not an expert in negotiating peace deals, but it also looks like possibly they're not either. but it does it very much. i'm not surprised by this news story saying. >> that he'd quit. >> that he'd quit. >> i mean, he's a comedian and we know what it's. >> like . slot on headline. yeah, yeah. >> you know, you're. >> you know, you're. >> a corporate gig. it's running late. and they say, do you mind only doing five? >> yeah, fine. absolutely fine. >> yeah, fine. absolutely fine. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i wouldn't be at all surprised if he has a world tour at the end. >> of this. amazing. >> of this. amazing. >> he is really sort of raised the bar for what comedians can achieve. but when. >> my wife was looking at me in 2021, like, you see. >> and now you're going, you see careful what you. wish for. >> and also, i mean, if he does call trump's bluff and step down
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and the whole election, even though, you know, i understand why ukraine wants to avoid elections, because having that sort of strife in the sort of, you know, the necessarily divide a country, but zaluzany would be overwhelmingly likely to take overwhelmingly likely to take over from, from zelenskyy and zaluzany, who's the sort of envoy. >> just purely on alphabetical order. >> he. yeah. >> he. yeah. >> they've got the a's and b's and c's went a long time ago. >> way back. >> way back. >> yeah, yeah, they were fighting the mongols. but yeah, i mean, zaluzany is an incredible military leader. so he would probably play much harder ball with, with russia and with and with trump. and the idea that, you know, that ukraine is a spent force and, you know, russia could roll over it in a matter of days. i mean, putin has been saying that since the war started. i think russia is now a spent force. it's sending donkeys and horses and men to the front, which is never a sign of, you know, overwhelming success. >> and there's some videos of, like the challenger two tanks that we sent over. absolutely. taking out an entire column of soviet era things. and the quote i heard was, it reduces them to nuts and bolts. you think, all
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right, so we know who's got the bigger tank there. but if you have this peace deal and some time. to restock and get some extra. >> tanks in. >> tanks in. >> that's the that's the risk further along from the horizon. >> isn't it. >> isn't it. >> yeah. yes. it was true that russia didn't win this in a couple of days. it looks like trump might. finish this in a couple of days by teaming up. is it a peace talk if you've only got one side of the wall there, and someone who. >> seems to hate. >> seems to hate. >> the other side of the wall, or is that ganging up? >> yeah, i guess we'll have to see if trump i don't know, maybe he's playing, you know, five d chess because this has actually been very unpopular with him with the american electorate. and so maybe, you know, he'll look at the polls. >> no. absolutely. he and look at the polls as well. but yeah. no you're absolutely right. and it's created ripples all over the place. we were talking i don't think it's on any of the news stories that paul poilievre. poilievre who's the was the virtually the president elect of canada. you know prime minister elect. he was 30 points ahead and it's all evaporated just because of how unpopular trump has made the right wing politics. yeah, it's high stakes. >> it's incredible. we've got
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the i steve with labour trying to build homes. >> yeah. labour's plan for. >> yeah. labour's plan for. >> 1.5 million new homes under >>1.5 million new homes under threat from skills shortage. bob the builder was asking. >> the right questions. >> the right questions. >> it turns out we can't build it because no one knows how to build this stuff. the workforce is ageing out. there was that weird period where all the builders were from one particular country, and they've gone home because their economy has been better than ours now. so no, you can have the plan to build stuff, but if no one knows how. >> to. >> to. >> do it, yeah, it's not going to happen. >> but i've been inside some new homes in the uk, and i've got to say, the people who built those homes don't know how to build ehhen homes don't know how to build either. so, you know, maybe we could solve this problem by just not importing 1.2 million people every year who presumably don't bnng every year who presumably don't bring a semi—detached house with them. well. >> this is this has been the accusation levelled at angela rayner from the very first moment that she announced this, this project, which is that. so you're going to have to import builders to do this. where are they going to live? they're going to live in the houses they build. yes, it is a ponzi scheme. and i mean, it's
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interesting to see it on the front page of the eye, because i've seen this headline and this story repeated without any this doesn't seem to have moved it on at all ever since she first announced it. there is a massive skill shortage. now, arguably this is this is worth announcing regularly so that young men and indeed women conceivably, and people of no fixed gender can identify potentially profitable line of work to go into. yeah. i mean, i think it would be great if we if we built up the, the artisan trades and maybe some, some corny specialists, maybe. >> we should make it illegal to do gender studies. if you walk when you walk through the door for gender studies, you actually walk into a bricklaying course. and that could solve our problems. do something useful. >> wonderful. you know, like a liberal arts degree, but for building, you know, just. >> like all the skills. >> like all the skills. >> yeah. go for it. >> okay, well, moving on, let's have a look at some more front pages with the daily mail. was licence fee payers cash given to hamas? well, they already got council houses in london. why not give them bbc money to the sun has fat jabs linked to 82
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deaths and the daily star has bought batter boffins. so yeah. simon the daily mail with the licence fee money going to hamas. >> yes. well i mean the way they present that title, it's almost as if they deliberately, you know, sidelined it and just like channelled it straight into the fighting fund. the point is that they made a documentary. anything the bbc does is, of course using licence fee because that's all the money they've got, you know. and so that is a given. the bbc made an hamas documentary, and it seems as if they may well have ended up parroting hamas talking points or however you want to put it. there has been considerable concern that the bbc seem to have been quite gullible on a number of occasions, accepting hamas and gaza and propaganda and figures and so on, without proper scrutiny, or whether something was deliberately targeted because it was a hospital and so on. and this seems to be part of an ongoing part of that. but kemi badenoch has decided to really go in hard on them. apparently it's a quite eye—watering attack and
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potential collusion with hamas, which, you know, i mean, the point is, of course, the daily mail has had it in for the bbc for a very long time before gb news even existed. but we are seeing now the point at which it is increasingly difficult to justify the bbc's funding model, especially if they are inclined to make controversial programming like this rather than the last of the summer wine, you know. >> yeah, as well as the controversial programming, they're also doing a controversial campaign at the moment to shake down people for money, because apparently half a million people slashed their, like, didn't stop paying their licence fee. so they've sent letters out to everyone who isn't paying. i got one, and it basically says we can kick in your door any time, day or night and we can, you know, rip the fings and we can, you know, rip the rings off your fingers. it's like they're like a cheap, you know, cheap debt. >> i always say this. so there was a time when. >> i moved. >> i moved. >> out of the. >> out of the. >> flat in with the missus. >> flat in with the missus. >> i had. a house. >> i had. a house. >> with with. >> with with. >> no tv in it. >> so i got the letter saying, you've not paid your tv. licence and i just like tick the box saying, yeah, i don't watch.
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>> tv, they're done. >> tv, they're done. >> i don't know what everyone onune >> i don't know what everyone online seems to make it seem. maybe i just didn't read the threatening bit lower down. it's like, no. >> i know i tick the box. >> i know i tick the box. >> that's complying with the soviet bureaucracy. >> well, are you saying people shouldn't comply with this legal. >> requirement to have a. >> requirement to have a. >> licence to watch tv? >> licence to watch tv? >> i'm saying if the law is wrong, then you shouldn't comply with it. oh, i mean, you. >> have someone telling you here to say different. >> all right. there is that funding model and then there is the attempt. every single time gb news secure a new advertiser to de—legitimize their right to advertise on the channel. yeah. as if as if they may as well be bayoneting babies and chucking them onto burning leaves. you know, it's i mean, you cannot help but notice there is a little bit of a gap in the approach there. yeah. so it does it does rankle. >> yeah, absolutely. and here on the sun steve we've got fat jabs unked the sun steve we've got fat jabs linked to 82 deaths. fat jabs was one of gaza's mates i. >> think probably was. yeah. so i've been trying to read the actual story on, on the website because the front page simply says that they're linked to it. simply it says these people died. after taking the drug. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so the thousands. of people,
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including not just the modern trend of using it for weight loss, the ten years of study of people with diabetes, taking this as a diabetes diabetic treatment. >> of course, you're. >> gonna have people who die like they'd be 82 people who die. >> we're talking. >> we're talking. >> not necessarily the healthiest cohort. >> doesn't it provide immortality as well? >> well, no, it doesn't provide immortality. so that's that's where they've got you. yeah. if you fell for that. but. so these these drugs. i can't see what these drugs. i can't see what the link is yet. we definitely know that some people took the drugs and then some people died afterwards, which would have happened anyway. people say you should have salad instead. i've looked into it. and people who ate salad, they all end up dying ate salad, they all end up dying at some stage. what we might be confusing here is correlation and causation, but it's a drug. there will be side effects that at some point, if enough people take it, some people will die. the side effects. i wouldn't be surprised if that. >> was. >> was. >> the case. »- >> the case. >> and also some people, some people are getting getting it from drug dealers and some people are doubling up because, you know, prescription drugs are more easily available. you just fill in a form online. so i know people who are doubling up with the doses and also they're not changing the lifestyle. so
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they're still just eating the living, the lifestyle that made them fat in the first place. >> well, the ozempic, but the point of ozempic is it's supposed to stop you wanting to do that, isn't it? >> so yeah. so eat less. but if you're still just eating, you know, danish, danish, pastries and stuff like that, then you're not getting any healthier. in fact, you're probably getting fewer nutrients. >> all of. >> all of. >> that's not the drugs. >> that's not the drugs. >> fault, is it? >> fault, is it? >> it's the people's fault. >> it's the people's fault. >> if you're getting if. >> if you're getting if. >> you're getting. >> you're getting. >> drugs online illegally and you die. >> that's kind of on you, isn't it? no. >> the drug. >> the drug. >> should put some sort of, like, nanobot in your arm that, like, nanobot in your arm that, like, goes to your brain and tells you to stop being a fat idiot who sits in the couch like that's what it needs. like you need the you need the stop sitting on the couch bit. i mean, apart from people watching this. >> tabloid newspapers absolutely revel in wonder drugs, and then they just play on that seesaw for as long as they possibly can and sell papers. i think on balance, it's probably a good thing post hoc, ergo propter hoc and all that. but yeah, i think. >> i think i was. >> i think i was. >> treated by one of those. >> treated by one of those. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> well, that's the front pages for you. in the next section,
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enough me and lewis shaffer who's another headliner, we're doing a show in banbury on the 27th. that's this thursday. so if you want to see us in real life, come along to banbury. there's tickets on my twitter, on google, wherever you want to look. anyway, let's get back into the show. we've got the telegraph now, and the french knife attacker faced deportation ten times, and each time the asylum system waved the white flag. that's so french, steve. >> isn't it? so. islamist terrorist accused of knife murder in france avoided. deportation ten times. is your story. french ministers accuse algeria of glaring imbalance, of refusing to. take the suspect back. that must be so annoying that you're a. nation and someone leaves you, and they had no real right to do so. and they should be deported. and you won't accept them back. oh, france, that must be so annoying. what could that possibly be like? but this man stabbed a man to death. he was in prison. he was considered medically unsafe. he's a wrong'un. he shouted allahu akbar multiple times during the attack. to be fair, you would, wouldn't you? like if i were attacking someone, you'd throw one in just for, you know, just
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to mess with the newspapers. >> it does feel good to shout. >> it does feel good to shout. >> it does feel good to shout. >> it on a crowded tube. have you tried that one? that's my favourite. the algerian. algerian consular. having none of it going. no, thanks. and after a week of the telegraph specials, it feels odd that that's where the story stops. like they wanted to deport him and they just ignored instead of, like, because of chicken nuggets or because, you know, he wore the wrong kind of wig or whatever the story will be. that's it. no, they just said no and should have been deported earlier. >> and we've seen this before, simon, with, you know, when the uk tries to deport people back to pakistan. yeah, yeah. i mean. >> i lose my sense of time when we go to stories like this. >> i don't know why we can't just turn around to the countries that are, that are refusing to take the this, the deportees, whatever they're called. and you say, okay, you're not going to take them. well, no more visas issued ever and no more aid from us. and in fact, those are the things we should be saying anyway. >> we should be saying those things, and we should be able to take significant physical measures to eliminate them from
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providing further threat. yeah, i mean that quite seriously. i think they should be able to if not lock them up or, you know, well, i have certain ideas about emasculation that would be quite effective as well. i don't know, i mean, to be fair, macron is not denying this. and this chap, monsieur rupert lowe, the interior minister, he says it's a result of migratory disorders, which sounds more like something that would happen to the african swallow if it, you know, lost track. >> well, i mean iceland. yeah. >> well, i mean iceland. yeah. >> oh, it's just sick. i mean, we laugh about it, but it is just it's just so relentless, isn't it? and of course, this is you know why why you have the afd and why you have le pen and why there is just like such growing exasperation and impatience. yeah. frustration across the whole of mainland europe now, because stories like this just come on in a constant stream, you know? yeah. >> and i think regular people can see something that perhaps are sort of indoctrinated
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leaders cannot they can see that it's idiotic. >> i like the. >> i like the. >> idea that every. >> idea that every. >> time there's a story about some failed. deportation case, like you wake up in bed like. >> bill murray listening. >> bill murray listening. >> to sonny and cher, i got you, babe. oh, what day is this? still in the loop? >> yeah. okay, well, moving on. we've got the daily mail now, and labour wants more british food in prisons, which is great because under their speech crime laws, that's where half of us are going to end up. yes. >> you lot , hospital food. >> you lot, hospital food. >> you lot, hospital food. >> dear. >> dear. >> i think this is quite interesting. the mail are positioning this. i don't know whether it can be honestly said to be consciously so that the to order labour, to order schools, hospitals and prisons, to buy more british food in a bid to appease farmers who are furious at rachel reeves tax rate. now, of course, we know we've covered this in some detail. the family farm tax, which it is highly disputed how many farmers it will affect, but they are likely those who can , who find those who can, who find themselves within that bracket, inherit property worth more than
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a million, and they will have to pay a a million, and they will have to pay a 20% rate of inheritance tax on it, which will often mean that they have to sell it. and so, you know, in exchange for that, they get to supply bangers to hmp. and i don't know whether that will be regarded as a significant enough sop, to be honest. but on the other hand, to be fair, the charity or the pressure group who represent them, no farming, no food campaign said the changes were a step in the right direction. so maybe they are. i happen to know i've mentioned it before, my wife does pr for morrisons and they've been very keen on this stuff, trying to get british farmers to supply institutional catering operations. and, you know, it's obviously a very major outlet, especially the prisons, you know, would probably take the wonky carrots, you know. becoming a bit later. >> so they're not going to be fussy. but yeah, there's no sign of the government even though this is a really like unpopular move, there's no sign of the government rolling it back. it seems to be an ideological part of a left wing government to
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always mess with farms. >> yeah. but also i was listening. to a podcast where they were talking about this. saying it's part. of like the core numbers of the budget. so if you mess with this, you're undoing the budget. and that's step one of chancellor. you know, there's another election. so it's not you can tinker with some of the things on the side of it without it being like, yeah, we're ripping up. >> look what happened. >> look what happened. >> when with liz truss it was the get rid of that budget, get jeremy hunt in to totally redo it. and then of. >> course, you're. >> course, you're. >> out. >> out. >> of work fairly shortly. >> of work fairly shortly. >> i will say this though, if you want. >> to have a conspiracy theorist. >> what you do is you point out. >> what you do is you point out. >> that by getting all. >> that by getting all. >> of the. >> of the. >> farms to. serve all of these places within the uk, they make more money, so they become worth more. so more farms will. >> be over a million. so then inheritance tax. gets thrown on them. done it. >> into the trap. >> into the trap. >> that is superb work steve. well moving on, we've got the daily mail again and the sas say they won't go to ukraine unless they're protected from prosecution for actions on the battlefield. and given that we've seen ex soldiers prosecuted for criticising the government, they should extend that exemption to when they get
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home. steve. >> yeah. sas soldiers threatened strike action if deployed to ukraine. this follows. i mean, that's a picket line no one's going to cross, isn't it? it's this is the coroner's not doing that twice. er, coroner's ruling that twice. er, coroner's ruling that special forces were not justified in using lethal force against four ira members in 1982. that's what sets the precedent for this. and so they want protection. the same protection. it turns out the m16 agents get, you know, your license to kill. and what do you think you're sending the sas in for? it's not tickling, is it? so i will say it's also true to say that we are way too early to be having this discussion. no one's talking about who's going to be sent in doing the peacekeeping. there's no peace been established to be kept yet. so they are kind of hitching this story to the one that's ukraine and therefore in the news and fair play. i'm not going to argue with them. they are bigger than me. >> i guess it's the fact that, you know, the precedent has been set that, you know, sas or other armed forces won't have don't have immunity and can be prosecuted for actions taken in afghanistan and iraq or wherever, which, i mean, it's a terrible precedent to set. and it says your morale is through
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the floor. blokes are leaving, the floor. blokes are leaving, the regiment is suffering. i mean, this is not what we want to hear, right? when, you know, we could be heading into an armed conflict. >> absolutely. we've always taken an enormous amount of pride in the sas. politicians occasionally may overstep the mark. michael portillo, of course, famously got a bit too excited about the sas. yeah, but generally speaking, they are a source of great pride. and as our army shrinks its capabilities and its and its sheer number of troops shrink, we lean more and more heavily on the notion that the elite troops are still the best in the world, and there is still some force to that argument. but we have to maintain that credibility because, as i say in so many other metrics, our our capabilities are not what they once were. and i think it would be a very great shame if we lost the ability to recruit the best of the best at this point. >> absolutely. or maybe they could just stage a military coup. maybe that would sort everything out. anyway, loads more great stories to come. elon musk asks bureaucrats to prove they actually work. someone gets
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welcome back to headliners and let's go to gbnews.com/yoursay to see what you've been saying. andy dai davies says it's nice to see some intelligent faces on headliners tonight. oh that's nice andy. oh wait there's more. and leo is on as well. okay, well everyone's a critic. we've got more daily mail now with trump freezing foreign aid and suddenly stonewall because of this freeze. might have to cut half of its staff. why on earth was overseas aid paying for child gender propaganda in britain, simon? >> it's a good question, leo, but before i get into that, i think the intelligent faces are the ones with the high brow.
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>> yourself in. >> yourself in. >> there, i'm afraid. yes. trump aid freeze may force stonewall to cut up to half of its staff. that's in the times. stonewall. of course, as i'm sure our viewers are aware. a long standing charity initially dedicated to lesbian and gay rights and then bisexual rights, lgbt and in more recent years overwhelmed by focus on the tee. much to the disgust, in fact, of many of its original former members. yeah, it's the one that's been drawing up various criteria by which companies could be judged as to whether or not their diversity hires were adequate. they would then earn points from stonewall, horrifically corrupt, sort of. >> it's been compared to a sort of mafia shakedown where you pay, of mafia shakedown where you pay, you know, five grand or whatever. a company pays five grand to stonewall, and then gets this plaque on the wall that says burnt to the ground on twitter. >> that's right. they attend some classes and they go on some courses and then they get a little badge. you know, it's like being a member of the tufty club or something. but anyway, what i find quite interesting
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