question. can the most important question. can president trump, i hope, yes, with some other allies to stop putin, withdraw this enemy's our enemy, withdraw these troops from our land. and i think that you asked about the history, about the i think that if president or when he will stop putin, if president trump will bring peace to our country, i think he will be on this wall. think. >> we�*ve had very, very good >> we've had very, very good talks. >> mr president, do you think you'd like to see. >> military aid to ukraine? >> military aid to ukraine? >> mr president zelenskyy just said that there would be no compromises with vladimir putin. ijust compromises with vladimir putin. i just wanted to compromises with vladimir putin. ijust wanted to ask both of you, firstly, are there compromises that you think the president zelenskyy is going to have to make? and president zelenskyy, is there anything that you might you think you may be able to offer or bring to the table, for example, elections? thank you. >> i think you�*re going to have >> i think you're going to have to always make compromises. you can't do any deals without

compromises. so certainly he's going to have to make some compromises, but hopefully they won�*t be as big as some people think you�*re going to have to make. that's all. it's all we make. that�*s all. it's all we can do. i'm here as a as an arbitrator, as a mediator to a certain extent, between two parties that have been very hostile, to put it mildly, they have been very hostile. this has been a vicious war. this has been a vicious war. this has been a vicious war, you know, it's a very level battlefield. and those bullets go out. and as i�*ve said many times, we�*re talking about it with pete. many times. the only thing stopping those bullets is a human body. and in the case we�*re talking and in the case we're talking about, generally young human bodies are stopping a lot of bullets. it�*s dead level. that's why it's great farmland. it's great land, it's great farmland. but there's very little protection against the bullets that are being and other things that are being and other things that are being shot. 50 all that are being shot. so all i can do is see if i can get everybody at the table and get an agreement. i think we're going to end up with an agreement. otherwise i wouldn�*t

probably be here today. >> mr mr president, openly, you're do you think compromises. >> mr president, i've got two >> mr president, i�*ve got two questions for you. do you think ultimately your legacy will be the peacemaker and not the president that led this country into another war and. >> well, you've just been >> well, you�*ve just been watching president zelenskyy and president trump at the white house where that was cordial. it got a lot more bad tempered a little later on with donald trump accusing volodymyr zelenskyy of being disrespectful and of gambling with world war iii, as zelenskyy has now left the white house early. the scheduled news conference has been cancelled. much more on this in our later news programs. but now it's time for lee anderson's real world. >> welcome to lee anderson's real world. i�*m lee anderson, real world. i'm lee anderson, reform uk member of parliament for ashfield. and joining me tonight, it�*s the first it�*s

tonight, it's the first it�*s susie stride. she's our left in the corner and a former adviser to the labour party. is that right susie? >> well i mean i'd more describe myself as a former parliamentary candidate, but back in the day i did a little bit of advisory. >> okay. and he's back. he's henry bolton, it is former ukip leader and now a member of the sdp. is that leader and now a member of the sdp. is that right? that's right. are you feeling well? i'm feeling how many fingers have i got up. about ten. ten. no, no he's not feeling very well at all. but listen guys, serious point that this week we saw on monday night in camborne in cornwall the i think it was antifa turned up who tried to stop a conference of reform uk conference. it got pretty, pretty unnerving. i think that's probably the best word for some of the people entering the venue. just have a look at this clip here guys, and tell me what you think. >> 0h woe is. >> oh woe is. >> oh woe is. >> anti—fascist. >> anti—fascist. >> who is anti—fascist? who is anti—fascist? >> whoa, whoa, oh. >> whoa, whoa, oh. >> s0 susie, you've seen the

clip. angry mob massed up. i think one of nigel�*s security think one of nigel's security guards had two teeth knocked out as well. no arrests made. surely this has got to stop. and you know, just this week, i met with the speaker again at the speakefis the speaker again at the speaker's conference to discuss mps safety. but it's more about it's more than just mps. it's about political candidates. it's about political candidates. it�*s about political candidates. it�*s about activists. it's about people who support political parties and free speech. >> yeah, i think it's really >> yeah, i think it�*s really important, isn't it? like if you want to, if you want to have good debate, if you want to have, i would even say good democracy, you know, you've got to have that place where people can share what they think, have their opinion, not be cancelled. and all this other rubbish, you know, you can disagree, but there's got to be that level of you can call it tolerance, you can call it whatever you want. i believe in respect, you know, and respecting the other person. and i think actually one of the things that makes our country great is we're not a country of great is we�*re not a country of these great extremes. now, we had this problem with the hard left within our party going back whenever it was five years ago

whenever it was five years ago when there was. it's that when there was. it�*s that intimidation part, which i just think is not acceptable. and i think is not acceptable. and i think it is really important, especially as we have seen, you know, we've seen the death of mps. >> yeah. and it always seems to me from the conference that i've been to and rallies, which is conservative and reform uk conferences and rallies, it always seems to be the hard left at these, at these conferences outside with the masks on causing problems. you know, i went to one a few years back in birmingham, a tory conference, quite terrifying, walking from the hotel to the actual conference centre and people shouting and spitting and throwing stuff at you. what? >> well, i�*ve experienced it >> well, i've experienced it myself when i was the leader of ukip and yeah, it�*s the it's the ukip and yeah, it�*s the it�*s the left. and you don't see it coming from the right nearly so much. there�*s a little bit. but you know, these people are fundamentally anti—democratic. as susie says, these people are trying to shut down free speech. if you don't have freedom of expression of your opinions, you cannot have democracy. it�*s fundamentally anti—democratic. and i�*m going to be even more

and i'm going to be even more sort of firm on this and say, you know, back back in the day before tony blair messed around with it, the definition of terrorism was trying to bring about political change through the threat or use of violence. now, this is the threat and to an extent, the use of violence for a political purpose. and i�*m not going to call it terrorism, but it is verging on that. and for the police not to take action. and, you know, i�*m a former police officer as well, and there are occasions when it is very difficult to make arrests. i wasn't there, but arrests. i wasn�*t there, but we've got to, as a nation, confront this violence in politics and this intimidation, because otherwise our democracy fails and it fails, if only because people are afraid to stick their head above the parapet and express them. >> and i'll tell you what, susie, people you know have a proper tour. me and nigel and richard and rupert and james, and that's fair enough. we can and that�*s fair enough. we can handle that. but when you see members of parliament like sara

sultana putting stuff on a on her twitter feed, you know, nigel's coming to birmingham with a big cross through him, encouraging people to turn up and demonstrate against this. surely this has got to stop. >> yeah. i mean, this is my thing. i think it's absolutely fair enough for people to challenge ideas, to challenge and to debate, you know, and even, you know, even want to get a bit lairy and angry about it. that�*s fine. what is not acceptable? any form of violence, any form of intimidation, any form of harassment, you know, and i think it's problematic on social think it�*s problematic on social media. we're going to talk about online safety bill stuff later, and it's problematic in the things that you�*re saying. there's nothing wrong with people saying, i don't like reform. i don�*t agree with their reform. i don't agree with their approach to this. the intimidation stuff, the harassment stuff that, you know, people getting a milkshake thrown in their face, like we've said in the last ten years we've had is it two mps in the last ten years? i can't remember, you know, it's not acceptable. again, one of the things that makes this country great is we do not have that within our

politics. there is that level of respect that, you know, off the camera people talk and they they there is that working together for the common good. >> we