absolutely impossible? >> you know, while i said it was thursday the sixth, it's actually friday the seventh. i hope we can. >> oh my goodness, it's all gone pete tong. but you know what else is coming up? we've got a lot more coming up, including including and not excluding. we have a big issue at the eurostar. in fact, there has been a bomb scare, an unexploded world war ii bomb has been found. and if you were heading off for a romantic trip to paris, where you can wave goodbye to that. >> travel chaos continues here at london saint pancras as thousands of passengers have been turned away after the eurostar service has been cancelled between london and paris for the rest of the day. >> and royal radio. >> and royal radio. >> life music is meant a great deal to me. >> tell us in advance. >> tell us in advance. >> it has that remarkable ability to bring happy memories.

>> and royal radio king charles is hosting a radio show on apple music featuring his personal commonwealth playlist. kylie minogue and bob marley have made the final cut, but can you guess who else? >> absurd. >> absurd. >> what the hell just happened? gb09 no clue, but i liked it. >> well, could that be the winning song for our team at eurovision 2025? it's our entry, these three girls girlband remember monday. that's what they're called. they've been confirmed as the act who will represent us on the international stage performing their song. what the hell just happened? well, hopefully it will be them winning. well, yes. eurovision. i can't

say i'm excited, nor am i particularly excited about that entrance. no offence remember monday, i'm sure you're very nice girls. >> you're not a fan. >> no, no, i'm a lot taller than you today. >> so we should. we adjust? >> so we should. we adjust? >> you have somewhat grown, i don't mind. >> well, i mean, ben was sitting here before. he's my chair. no, no, you're just taller. no chair. >> are i upset a few people in the newsroom a little earlier because i said that i'm not interested in eurovision. it seems to always be anti—british. you have some very strange entrants who can't appear to sing nor dance. and i can't get excited about it. am i just a killjoy, though? >> i think you need to lighten up. i think you need to embrace the weird, wacky and wonderful joy the weird, wacky and wonderful joy that is almost intentionally a nonsense singing contest. but that's the that's the fun. i don't think anyone's supposed to take it that seriously, you know, it's almost there to sort of be remarked upon, have the proverbial taken out of it, you know, all the rest of it.

>> well, we've had simulations of sex acts before. we've had a bearded lady. why is australia in it? we've had quite a lot of support for israel, though. >> and bearded lady, i mean, this is proper victorian hall entertainment. >> that's crucially we don't ever win. and it's always about politics, isn't it? >> bloomin well almost won. we came second. >> why was that? >> why was that? because >> why was that? because we >> why was that? because we put forward sam ryder, who was a brilliant talent contest entry. and then we hosted in liverpool. i mean, i think. >> is that why. >> is that why. >> we won? we put forward. >> we won? we put forward. >> bad politics. >> bad politics. >> we lose. no no no no no. people were saying after brexit we would never win. and then we then we basically we won that year ukraine actually won. but i mean let's let's face it, that was sympathy votes. so i think we can take the moral victory. >> but did not we did we not win because we were supporting ukraine? >> no, i don't think so. >> no, i don't think so. >> we were the best. you know, the germans were just talking about helmets and we were talking about actually putting our money where our mouth is. >> if you think about the countries that voted for us, were they voting because they thought that we were more

supportive of ukraine than them? i doubt it. >> so this band remember monday, apparently they did quite well in the voice. yeah. i was thinking, well, why didn't we just get the winners of the voice to do it? so we've got runner up. you know, we always seem to have second rate bands. no offence, remember monday, i'm sure you're fantastic, but, you know. >> i don't know. >> i don't know. >> budget, little mix. >> budget, little mix. >> i think some of our entrants have been. yes, second rate, others have been remarkable. to be fair, this year we could do a little bit better. it would be lovely to have it. >> back, i will concede. i will concede that you probably know more about this than i do anyway. gbnews.com/yoursay do you care about eurovision? am i just being a massive killjoy? anyway, that's your latest news. >> tom. emily, thank you and good afternoon. it's 12:05. i'm katie bowen in the gb news room. ukraine's president volodymyr zelenskyy has called for a truce in the air and at sea, as well as additional pressure on russia after a massive attack overnight that hit ukrainian gas infrastructure. he wrote that, quote, the first steps to

establishing real peace should be forcing the sole source of this war, russia, to stop such attacks. that comes as the president of the eu commission, ursula von der leyen, has rallied european leaders, calling for nation states to back donald trump in ending ukraine's war with russia. this is what she had to say. >> we all want a peace through strength, a just and lasting peace, but a peace from a position of strength. and this is also in the interest of president trump to have a peaceful strength. and if he wants to achieve this, it is only possible, with the support of the european union and its member states. >> while us president donald trump has insisted that the us will not defend nato allies who refuse to increase their spending, as peace talks between the us and ukraine are set to take place in saudi arabia next week. >> well, i've said that to them. i said, if you're not going to pay, i said, if you're not going to pay, we're not going to defend. other appeals. the murders committed by going killer other appeals. the murders committed by going to .er other appeals. the murders committed by going to defend. pay, we're not going to defend. i said that seven years ago. and i said that seven years ago. and because of that, they paid because of that, they paid

hundreds of billions of dollars. hundreds of billions of dollars. but even now it's not enough. but even now it's not enough. it's really not enough. they it's really not enough. they should be paying more. should be paying more. >> elsewhere. six protesters >> elsewhere. six protesters jailed for their roles in jailed for their roles in various climate demonstrations, various climate demonstrations, including the co—founder of just including the co—founder of just stop oil and extinction stop oil and extinction rebellion, roger hallam, have rebellion, roger hallam, have had their sentences reduced at had their sentences reduced at the court of appeal today. 16 the court of appeal today. 16 activists were sentenced last activists were sentenced last year for their roles in four year for their roles in four demonstrations held by just stop demonstrations held by just stop oil between august and november oil between august and november 2022, including climbing on the 2022, including climbing on the gantries over the m25 and gantries over the m25 and throwing soup over vincent van throwing soup over vincent van goghs sunflowers. roger hallam goghs sunflowers. roger hallam sentence has been reduced from sentence has been reduced from five years to four. the five years to four. the protesters challenged their protesters challenged their sentences at the court of sentences at the court of appeal sentences at the court of appeal, with their lawyers appeal sentences at the court of appeal, with their lawyers claiming they were manifestly claiming they were manifestly excessive. lady chief justice excessive. lady chief justice baroness carr, mrjustice baroness carr, mrjustice baroness carr, mr justice lavender and mrjustice baroness carr, mr justice lavender and mrjustice lavender and mr justice griffiths ruled that six of the lavender and mr justice griffiths ruled that six of the 16 should have their sentences 16 should have their sentences reduced, while dismissing the reduced, while dismissing the other appeals. the murders other appeals. the murders

committed by triple killer committed by triple killer kyle clifford show harmful online content can, quote, transform into physical harm, former culture secretary baroness nicky morgan has said today. kyle clifford was convicted of raping his ex—girlfriend louise hunt, before using a crossbow to kill her and her sister hannah and a butcher's knife to kill their mother, carol. prosecutors have revealed kyle clifford watched multiple andrew tate videos in the 24 hours leading up to that deadly attack, with a court heanng deadly attack, with a court hearing that the murders were fuelled by, quote, the violent misogyny promoted online. the 26 year old will be sentenced on all counts next tuesday. shadow justice minister doctor kieran mullan spoke to gb news earlier on. >> well, i think we have to always, in these circumstances, be clear about the individual responsibility of people like that. there are, you know, millions of us in this country who have access to that same content, and it doesn't lead to us committing these sorts of horrific acts. so people are responsible for their own actions. having said that, of course, we know that some of these things can have an impact,

investigation as part of operation aloft, connected to the awarding of commercial and business contracts from liverpool city council between 2010 and 2020. all those charged will appear at preston magistrates court on the 28th of march. those are the latest gb news headlines. now let's go back to tom and emily. >> good afternoon britain. it's nine minutes past midday now. a report from the centre for migration control claims that first generation migrants could make up 25% of the uk population by 2035. >> yes, the report also claims that britain's overall population will exceed 73 million in just over a decade, with many arguing that such a high rate of immigration will make integration nearly impossible. >> but are they correct, or should we see this as a positive? more people, more business? well, to debate this, we're joined by jonathan portus,

who is a professor of economics and public policy at king's college london and the political commentator aman bhogal. jonathan, let's start with you. this is going to be concerning for a lot of people. such a large rise in the population, dnven large rise in the population, driven almost entirely by migration. >> it's right that population increase is largely driven by migration. i wouldn't pay any attention to these nonsense numbers from a, you know, frankly, a joke think tank that lobbies against migration. they're based on absolutely nothing. they don't reflect either what's happened in the past or what's likely happened or likely to happen in the future. and in fact, we actually know from the visa statistics, actual real numbers that were released last week, that migration is now falling quite rapidly. it increased quite a bit immediately after the pandemic because of labour shortages and the introduction of the post—brexit immigration system, but it's falling back quite quickly. >> okay, so, jonathan, how much

of the population do you think will be made up of first generation migrants by 2035? if it's not 25%? >> well, it's currently about 16%. and on current trends, it might go up by another two, three, 4%. nothing particularly to worry about. >> and that's incredibly that's an incredibly large proportion of the country. i mean, the worry is that if you have such a high level of first generation migrants that you're not going to have a socially cohesive country, an integrated country, and that's not good for anyone, is it? >> well, why do you think we don't have a socially integrated and cohesive country now? what is the evidence for that? we know, for example, that residential and ethnic segregation has been decreasing over the last 20 years. the census tells us that. we know, for example, that children of a migrant background do about the same in school as kids from a non migrant background, including, for example, let's be honest, english. >> let's be honest. >> let's be honest. >> carmen, come in. >> let's be honest here. i think

the professor needs to get out a bit more outside london. we see. have we have seen. look, first of all, we've seen record numbers of migration. and i would argue it's not just, you know, 25%. it's one in third of, you know, every briton will be migrant born. that's a phenomenally huge number. but look, what this boils down to is just not just the manipulated figures that the professor might like to hide behind. it's what people feel out there on the doorstep. look, this is about national identity. this is about national identity. this is about national cohesion. this is about national cohesion. this is about national integration. and all those things flow from a shared culture, a shared language, which which is english. and when a million migrants cannot speak our national language, how are they going to be integrating? how do they communicate with the teachers who teach their children, with the doctors who treat them in our nhs hospitals, with the neighbours they are supposed to be living besides and not self—segregating in vast enclaves of the same communities, living together,

working together and not interacting with the wider public. >> i'm sorry, but this is, you know. but but that, i'm afraid, is just fantasy. 1 million people who don't speak english, who don't speak english very well, remember, some of them speak english. >> that is. >> that is. >> 3% of the population. 1 in 50. and as i said. >> this down. >> this down. >> let them come in, because, jonathan, you've spoken a little bit more, but we'll bring you back in in a minute. >> sure. >> sure. >> let's break this down. let's break this down. one in. every single one in every ten patients referred to the nhs. can't speak english. we are spending £100 million on translators at the nhs. we are spending £8 million translating for people who can't speak english at jobcentre plus, we are spending nearly £450,000 per police force to deal with criminals or alleged criminals who can't speak english. is that does that tell you a story that there is integration going on and that people are speaking

english? come on, let's be serious here. >> jonathan, do you think it's important to have a national culture for people to be able to integrate into? because this is the problem, because people do tend to group together with people who are similar to themselves. in london, you could say there is more of a melting pot, perhaps, but there are still enclaves where people sort of stick together in their ethnic groups. that is true. but elsewhere in the country, you've got areas of leicester where about 40 odd percent of people don't speak english, or very, very little english. jonathan, how can you pretend that that's a good thing for any society? >> so that's good. you mentioned the one particular part of leicester where a very small part of leicester, where 40% of people don't speak english well or very well, lots of them speak english, remember? >> is that not a problem, though? >> wait, let me, let me go. because i actually looked at the figures. so there is a primary school in that area. in that primary school. of the most recent, in the most recent year, almost every kid had a parent who came from a non—english

speaking background. that's correct. those kids scored at or above the national average for. engush above the national average for. english speaking english. let me finish. let me read it for engush finish. let me read it for english at key stage two. are you saying they're not integrated? they're doing as well as english speaking kids in speaking english at key stage two. so that is. let me finish. thatis two. so that is. let me finish. that is the fact of integration. now what's bad for integration in a natural culture? i'd say it's when you have loony commentators saying that people like me, for example, that i'm not english. so you have konstantin kisin claiming that rishi sunak and i are not english. >> rishi sunak is an english. he's british, indian like me. i'm proud to be british indian, but i'm also blessed to be born indian. are you really suggesting. >> wait, wait. well, let me finish on this one, please. >> okay, let's get jonathan. jonathan, have have another 30s or so. then we'll go back to emon. >> let me be clear on this. you are free to identify as you wish. if you want to identify as

a british indian. non—english indian, that's your privilege. but rishi sunak has made very clear that he identifies as an engush clear that he identifies as an english indian. i am very clear that i identify as an english jew. now, konstantin kissin claims that neither. >> why are we talking about konstantin kissin? no, no, no. why are we talking about konstantin kissin? no. >> you asked about a national identity and culture. and if you. >> i say. but you're denying that there's any problem at all. do you think it's a problem? that we have fgm in this country? do you think it's a problem that we have forced marriage in this country? do you think it's a problem that people that there are schools side by side where one is totally of one group and one is totally of another group? because that is what happens. that is what is happening in our country. and you're denying that there's any anything wrong with that. >> agam berger i'm saying, once again, you're making. >> things up. when i came to this country as an eight year old boy, i was the only child in my junior school back in 1992 who did not speak english. i spoke two words of english on day one of school, and today i've been a governor at the same school for the last many years.

we have probably half of children who have come from overseas who are born to parents who are not speaking english and require additional resources. is that a success story of integration? i don't think it is. and the single most important question that people like jonathan borders need 3071