so i'm bringing management of >> so i'm bringing management of the nhs back into democratic control by abolishing the arm's length body, nhs england. >> i just look at the faces of the audience. the prime minister has given nhs england the axe, but the devil, as always, is in the detail. isn't this just a massive rebrand that won't make any difference to you.7 the any difference to you? the patients also tonight you might know. you might know who this man is, but it turns out that most of the public don't. at 10:00, i'll tell you why. the almighty reform bus stop isn't such bad news after all. plus, legendary columnist and friend of the channel, peter hitchens, thinks that dyslexia does not exist. so are we over diagnosing kids with learning difficulties? also, 3500 churches have vanished over the past decade. formerly the heart of most communities, they're now becoming nightclubs, houses and

swimming pools. how and why did christianity lose its way? on my panel tonight, it's former tory mp anna firth, conservative peer lord bailey and ex—labour adviser matthew lazar. oh, and what's wrong with this? >> i just caught a baby wombat. >> i just caught a baby wombat. >> buckle up, britain, it's bedtime. beverley knight. and tesco's yellow label food were all a fan of it, aren't we? well, it's free from 9:00 930 tonight. it's 9:00 now. of course. we sent a reporter to see what he can bag for our panel see what he can bag for our panel. all of that after arron armstrong with your news. >> thanks, bev. good evening to

you. our top stories donald trump says vladimir putin's comments on the us ceasefire plan are promising, but not complete. after the russian president suggested he has issues with the proposal. the us president was speaking alongside the head of nato, mark rutte, in the head of nato, mark rutte, in the oval office, shortly after putin appeared to set out a series of sweeping conditions that would need to be met before russia would agree to such a truce. well, ukraine's president volodymyr zelenskyy has said putin's response is manipulative. he's called for more sanctions against russia to force them to the table. well, trump says he'll make sure russia doesn't attack us allies, adding he has leverage on putin, without elaborating and suggests progress is being made. >> and maybe we're close. we're getting word that things are going okay in russia. and does it mean anything until we hear what the final outcome is? but they have very serious discussions going on right now with president putin and others, and hopefully they all want to end this nightmare. it's a

nightmare. it's a horrible thing. >> thousands of jobs in the uk's healthcare sector will be cut after the prime minister announced nhs england is to be abolished to tackle bureaucracy. nhs england employs around 13,500 people. the move is expected to take up to two years. well, sir keir starmer says the state's overstretched and unfocused, and he's described the world's biggest quango as a if they get rid of it, that'll refocus and reduce waiting lists. sir keir says the decision has been influenced by global events. >> national security is economic security and strength abroad, and we definitely need that more than ever at the moment. but that demand security back at home. >> a teenager who stabbed a schoolgirl to death in a row over a teddy bear has been jailed for at least 23 years. hassan sentamu had a history of attacking girls and carrying knives before he killed elianne anne diamond, croydon, in september 2023. he had admitted

manslaughter but was found guilty of murder and having a blade after a jury rejected his claim that autism affected his ability to exercise. exercise self—control. pastor mark russell gave a statement on behalf of the family. >> the fact that this crime was committed by a minor has unfortunately resulted in a sentence that we believe falls woefully short of true justice. despite the horror of the crime, the premeditated nature of the attack, the brutality of her death, and the permanent void it has left in our hearts, the legal systems response has left us feeling abandoned and unheard. >> when the killers of sara sharif have failed in their appeal against the sentences handed down in 2024 relating to the ten year old's murder. irfan sharif and bannau patel were jailed for life with minimum terms of 40 and 33 years respectively, after being found guilty of the murder. sarah's uncle, faisal malik, was found guilty of causing or allowing her death. he was jailed for 16 years. appeal. judges heard how

sarah had suffered 71 recent injuries at the time of her death, including broken bones, burns and bite marks. the judges rejected the appeal and ruled that sharif's sentence was not unduly lenient. those are the headlines. i'll be back with more in just under an hour. >> so beverley knight while patrick is on his holidays. holidays now. this morning the prime minister stood before a very bored looking audience in hull and announced the first stage of project chainsaw, a radical reforming of what he calls the flabby and overcautious state. but if you were sat at home watching me and my co—presenter this morning losing the will to live, maybe you're waiting for a new knee. did starmer channel his inner elon musk and get tough on wasteful spending? >> this is the chainsaw for

bureaucracy. future. >> let's just say he was the polar opposite of that. but did you see a radical refiguring of a broken system which guarantees a broken system which guarantees a new set of teeth? if you arrive from a calais on a dinghy, but may not be so rewarding if you've spent a lifetime paying into a system which, frankly, may not turn up. if you call 999. abolishing nhs england sounds impressive on papen england sounds impressive on paper, a whole taxpayer funded but non—governmental organisation that makes serious decisions on healthcare services instead of sitting alone. nhs england will now amalgamate with the department for health and social care. not so much an abolition then, then a merger. think about it. nhs england currently employs about 15,000 people. the dhsc employs only 3000. d0 people. the dhsc employs only 3000. do you really think that a labour government are going to make over 10,000 civil servants

redundant? and if they can, it begs the question what have they been doing all day? apart from attending meetings on the quality of their rainbow lanyards? the unions are already kicking up a fuss, so don't get too excited. in seven months, this government has spent £650 million on consultants in america. musk simply went in with his accountancy team and a gang of tech geeks, and made an alleged $100 billion of taxpayer savings with the flick of a pen. so i bet you that these merging departments in this country will cost thousands, hundreds of millions more. and that's before they've spent money on a new logo. and what changes might they want to bring into health that will require centralised government control? just think about it. for that is what they now have. reorganising is normally just a way of creating the illusion of progress. nhs

england, incidentally, used to be called the nhs commissioning board for england. this will simply be its third iteration. burning your taxpayers cash with no genuine imagination into how to change the nhs so that new knees and gp appointments become the norm. let's get the thoughts of my panel this evening. i'm delighted to be joined in the studio by anna firth, former conservative mp lord shaun bailey bailey and matthew lazar. good evening. good evening. all right. matt, did you hear anything today that seemed particularly radical? >> well, i think. >> well, i think. >> yeah, i think it is quite radical to cut away a whole layer of management. and i think the key thing which you heard in this clip there is to bring it back into democratic control, because the tories did these reforms in 2012, which set up nhs england. yes, they were committees and things before that, but they set up this big kind of big monster that has

got, you know, duplicates all the functions of the department of health. it's got its own strategy department, its own press office, its own, you know, future functions, which are all already done by the department of health. so i don't think it's going to transform life for every patient every day. but i think it's the right the right direction, the first step in moving in the right direction in terms of cutting out excess managers, they're going to cut 1000 jobs. i don't think they can have a new logo because they're going to use the existing nhs and department of health ones. but and i think that that is a really, really important because i think whatever whoever the health secretary is, whether they're a tory or labour reform or whatever, they need to be able to say, we want to make these changes and not then hit the blob, as people call it. and i think nhs england as an organisation was think nhs englan