amazing discovery in the murder investigation of the florida couple known for adopting special needs kids. valuable evidence uncovered. a stolen safe. several guns. including possibly the murder weapon here. plus an eight eighth person arrested. a woman, what do police know about her. within days we could know what killed michael jackson. the toxicology report due out anytime now. the d.a. jumping into this investigation. dozens of jackson's doctors under the microscope, are they responsible for killing the king of pop. love hearing from you. call in,s the number 1-877-tell-hln. you can e-mail us cnn.com/primenews, or text us at

hlntv. just start your message with the word prim. it's your chance to be heard. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com welcome once again. i'm mike galanos. this is "prime news." crucial evidence uncovered in the murder of a couple in florida. officials believe they have found the murder weapon, several guns plus a safe we told you about. this taken from the home. the state attorney believes that safe is the only motive, the sole reason that several men broke into the house, some in full ninja garb. also new in today, an eighth arrest. this time a woman, pamela long wiggins, now facing charges of accessory after the fact. of felony murder. we'll take your calls on this, the number 1-877-tell-hln. joining us to talk about it, hln law enforcement analyst, mike brooks. mike has been on this one since day one. let's start with pamela long wiggins. accessory after the fact.

what do police know about her role here? >> they're not really saying a whole lot about what her role is. if they found something at her house. but mike, last monday the officers were at her house because witnesses saw heavily armed officers pulling up at her house and basically serving a search warrant. what they found, we don't know. then they thought they maybe had spoken to her. apparently they didn't. now, there is a red van, a minivan. this is separate than the red van that we saw gonzalez sr., gonzalez jr. and code iron in during the robbery. we don't know what role this played. but apparently it was parked near the mansion before the robbery happened. you know, did she assist them in give them away? did she have some of the property or the guns? they're not saying. she did disappear to alabama. that's why law enforcement went up, they got her and put her in hands cuffs. but then took the handcuffs off of her and she and her attorney then returned back to escambia

county, where they were interviewed by law enforcement last night and charges late last night were placed against her. >> let's back track just a step, mike. so did she know of this plot beforehand, or is she someone when you say accessory after the fact, did she come in afterward and she helps cover up the crime? >> that's what it looks like to me. since it says after the fact. because if she knew of the plan, you know, they might have done other charges. so did she have some of the property? did she have this safe that they did recover? did she have some of the weapons? one wif they believe is the murder weapon but they said they haven't processed it yet. what role did she play? they're not really saying right now, mike. >> let's bring in rob williams. rob's providing expert analysis for cnn. good to have you aboard. rob, help us out with pamela long wiggins. what more do we know about her role, her relationship with the alleged mastermind here, leonard gonzalez jr.? >> they might have been good

neighbors, that's pretty much it. the we know he actually witnessed, or his name, signature is on her marriage license from last fall. other neighbors say they recognize the gonzalez kids being over to pamela long wiggins' house playing with the dog, for instance. so they were friendly. they were in communication. just very, very good neighbors. what we're not sure about, and the other mike points out very properly, we're not really sure where that safe went. we're not really sure where those guns went. they've been recovered. the safe is here. probably 50 yards from where i'm sitting in the sheriff's property locker, big warehouse, actually. and they're processing the guns, running serial numbers and such like that. it's still going to be a while. as you heard the state attorney say at the noontime news conference, they're not going to talk about any of this. that is the may be for some time now. >> i asked mike to see what with can glean from you on this, rob. do authorities believe wiggins knew about the plot or did she come in afterward to help cover

the crime? >> that's the business. the after-the-fact. so she may have come in afterwards. hey, can you hold some of this for us? can you hide some of this for us? can you take some of this to your antique shop, that sort of thing. >> let's get a call in real quick. beverly in new york, your comment or question here? >> caller: i'm just wondering, if they're still looking for somebody who had something to do with the security alarm system? did they have a nanny, a housekeeper? and the pamela long walking down with a smile on her face? i would love to see her if she's guilty go to jail and strut her stuff in prison. >> i was struck by that as well. rob, weren't you as well to see pamela, a smile on her face in the midst of this horrific crime and she's arrested as well? >> i know. she was sort of smiling when she walked off the boat yesterday in orange beach. and even almost had a smile on her face as they were doing what we call in the business the perp walk, where they come out of the

sheriff's office, and go basically about 200 yards across the parking lot to jail. we still put them in the back of a police car. she, of course, bonded out. in terms of what's going on at the house, the housekeeper, the nursing assistant, the home health aid, whatever, those people have all been checked up one side, down the other, front/back, top/bottom, and they've come out clean and clear with connection with this. but now eight people involved in this murder. >> yesterday, rob, authorities were talking about someone who didn't do their job possibly, that's a theory they were talking about, didn't shut off the surveillance cameras. is that a possible ninth person or is that one of the eight so far? >> that's going to be the ninth. that's going to be the current person of interest. by the way, the sheriff didn't limit it to just a ninth. today they pointed out there are several people who are persons of interest. there are more people they want to talk to. he said, we talked to probably 25, 30 people you've never heard about.

but you track down every lead that you can. >> right. mike, you're an investigator, many years. how big could this get? >> you know, mike, one thing i want to say, thank god they had the surveillance video, that's all i can say. but this is one of these crimes that keeps getting bigger and bigger. i think the sheriff even kind of said, you know, this is the biggest thing he's seen since the tate/la bianca murders. years and years ago. but i've not seen a case like this in quite some time. i'm always -- i'm still wondering, mike, were some of the people who were arrested, did they really know what was going to go down. did they know they were going to go in and kill these two people or it they just think it was a go-ahead invasion, rob them and get out of here. were they duped by gonzalez and codeiron and gonzalez sr.? that's a possibility. >> guys, just getting this in. go ahead, rob. >> can i jump on that? i think he's absolutely right. in terms there was no idea of how much money there really was in the safe from somebody on the outside.

so to sell some of these guys, especially the air force sergeant who's making more than -- close to $50,000 a year, that there's a payday out of this, there better be a pretty good payday if you're going to put your career and family in jeopardy. but i don't think anyone signed up on this one for murder. even in a good home invasion people say, what, $20,000, $50,000, we better be doing better than that. there's a big question how much money was in that safe. >> we're just getting this in here. i'll read it off the computer. the sheriff told susan candiotti that the number of weapons recovered is around the same number of suspects. so about seven. let me throw that one to mike brooks. mike, so let's look at this crime here. you're storming a place with, we're saying, what, special needs kids, up to nine, and two people. do you think everybody needed to be armed for that? does that make sense to you? >> we were hearing in the beginning that not everyone was armed. it might have been gonzalez jr., and codeiron that were armed.

with how many weapons they had, we don't know. we don't know if the other ones who came in. they came in from the north and the east. from the east, that's the red van. that's codeiron and gonzalez jr. thenny got the other ones who came in through the woods in the black escalade. were they armed? we don't know. it's really hard to tell in that surveillance video whether they were armed or not. keep in mind, there's also surveillance video on the inside, so they know exactly who was armed, who had a gun most hikely and what action they took and who was responsible for the shootings. but these guns will be analyzed. and i guarantee you, i would almost guarantee you there will be some history with some of these guns involved, maybe taken from somewhere else, a straw purchase somewhere. we don't know. that's the atf's job. they are good at it and they will find out. >> thanks so much. i'm sure we'll talk again soon. latest in the michael jackson investigation. speculation surrounding his death. the toxicology report could come out soon.

what are investigators focusing on now. was diprivan in his system? we'll take your calls, 1-877-tell-hln.

a matter of days we might learn what caused michael jackson's tragic death. his life cut short at just the age of 50. anytime now, toxicology results expected to be released. was his death an accident? how many of his doctors are being investigated? how many were associated with him? so many questions here. call in with your thoughts, 1-877-tell-hln. let's bring in our experts. joining us once again, carlos diaz, correspondent for "extra." also with us, emergency room physician from the university of

maryland school of medicine. also with us, cooper lawrence, psychologist, author of the book "the cult of celebrity." carlos, let's clear some things up for folks. toxicology, probably not until next week, right? >> right. >> let's start there. >> yeah. >> and how many doctors are we talking about here? five, is that the number? or could there be more, carlos? >> there could be more. that's the thing, with diprivan, it's tough to say, you're dealing with lot numbers, with propofol on diprivan. that's what may have caused michael jackson's death. it's not a situation where you can write a script or prescription for that, because it's not a drug that's usually prescribed, it's an anesthetic. right now the dea is looking at lot numbers and trying to narrow where the bottles that were found at michael jackson's home, where they came from, what hospitals, what facilities they came from, and if that's the case, then you have to examine the doctors that are in those medical units. >> clarify that as well, when we talk about the reports out

there. do we definitively know diprivan was found in his home, and how many vials? >> i can't tell you how many vials, we don't know how many vials were found. but i can tell you that diprivan was found in the home. we've talked to several different people, i have, several different doctors about the diprivan. the thing is, it's not a drug that is prescribed. it is not likes oxycontin or vicodin, it is an anesthetic. that's the unusual thing about this whole thing, it's not a drug whose high lasts a long time. it only lasts a few minutes. it needs to be regulated. that's why dr. conrad murray is still being looked after because he was there with michael at the house the day that it all happened. doctor, how difficult is it going to be to track that, how diprivan ended up in michael jackson's house and quite possibly in his system? >> he's absolutely right. it's not a prescription, so you're not looking for a prescription. you're looking at physicians,

what they had access to. did they order it from the manufacturers. the manufacturer knows who they send it to. they track the lots, because there was just a report out from the fda that some diprivan had bacterial contamination. i don't know if this is -- they're going to find anything related to that. but they were tracking down people that had had the anesthetic, because there was some bacterial contamination. so they have to see which hospitals and facilities the lot went to. >> let's get a call in real quick. jenna, your thoughts here? jenna, you with us? >> caller: i'm sorry. hi, how are you? >> good. >> caller: i just wanted to say, i live in connecticut. and i know, this is the longest and worst kept secret in hollywood. this prescription drug, when is the cover going to be blown. look at marilyn monroe, judy garland and now the biggest star ever. what are they doing about this? what can they do? >> carlos, i'll go to you as our -- i mean, how big is the problem? and our caller is zoning in on

hollywood. let's start there. it is a nationwide problem, but what about hollywood? >> it's huge in hollywood, because stars -- i mean, because doctors are human beings and they get star-struck. when a star comes to a doctor and says, i need this script, i need this prescription, the doctor is until recently going to say yes because there hasn't been any repercussions. we saw with anna nicole smith, with heath ledger, now with michael jackson, and that's why i'm hoping this investigation is far-reaching. because we need doctors in hollywood, and around the country, who are prescribing these drugs to these celebrities, to take a second and say, wait a minute, i don't want to get in trouble if something bad happens. >> when we come back, we'll talk to cooper lawrence about this, the author of "cult of celebrities." not only the celebrities themselves, but the star-struck doctors. we'll hit on that coming up. more on the investigation. taking your calls, 1-877-tell-hln.

continuing with it latest in the michael jackson investigation. toxicology reports probably due out as early as next week. we have our experts standing by to talk about this. taking your calls, 1-877-tell-hln. i want to bring you cooper lawrence, psychologist, author of the book "the cult of celebrity." we were talking about before the break, our caller actually brought it up, the prescription drug use in hollywood. and when you look at that, it all adds up, doesn't it, when you have a celebrity, and you have "yes" people around them who will get them this. no one will tell them no. it's just a bad cycle as we see it played out with michael jackson. >> there's celebrities who don't want to be said no to, and then there's people that people are doing something -- if they know psychology, they're going to say like duh, berging, basking in the glory of. if i hang around celebrities, some of their glory comes onto me. i'm a little bit of a celebrity, too. i can tell my friends and

family, guess who i know. it makes me a little fabulous as well. it's actually a well-researched term in social psychology, that's the person, with the celebrity, and then you have the celebrity who is wanting whatever they want. and doesn't want to be said no to. >> the cult of celebrity. a piece of it. >> there it is, right there. >> glenna in ohio, your comment or question? >> caller: love your show. thank you for taking my call. >> yeah. >> caller: can the doctor who gave michael the physical, can he be prosecuted? >> article os, do we know, was it dr. conrad murray, or who was the doctor who gave michael jackson the physical prior to this undertaking of what would have been a 50-concert tour? >> conrad murray was the doctor that was hired by aeeg live, the production company that was going to put on these shows. dr. conrad murray was also a friend of michael jackson's. a lot of people think he came to

know michael jackson through aeg, but he knew michael jackson through michael jackson's kids. he treated them. that's how he got to know michael jackson. michael jackson suggested him for aeg. i honestly, you know, not being a lawyer, i can't tell you definitively, but i wouldn't think that he would be giving the physical. it's not the bad health that possibly killed michael jackson, it's the fact that he was taking this drug propofol and diprivan that may have stopped his heart. >> dr. leigh vinocur, wouldn't the physical have shown -- is there any way michael jackson would have gotten a clean bill of health over the last few months? >> they didn't find any heart disease. but certainly if there were needle marks and things like that. if you were one of the doctors supplying him with drugs, i mean, i could see where there could be a conflict. and you wouldn't report it. >> more on this coming up, including another look back at the ill-fated 184 pepsi commercial. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

welcome back to "prime news" on hln. if you can believe this one, a math teacher, mother of three, married, accused of having sex with one of her teenage students in her family minivan in a parking lot. and getting frisky in the classroom. how did she get busted? cops say she was on facebook making friends with the teen. that's the first pitch. you're their teacher, not their friend. or sex fiend. call in if you have any thoughts on this one, 1-877-tell-hln. i want to update you on this story. believe it or not, five months now since little haleigh cummings went missing. 5-year-old girl vanished from her bed in florida. five months. early on we had the intense search, the focus on wooded

areas, nearby water, a dumpster at one point. we also have this side show to deal with somewhat. her father's sudden marriage to her 17-year-old live-in girl, custody fight. abuse allegations. yet we are here today, no charges, no suspects. and it looks like no clue where little haleigh is. we'll take your calls, 1-877-tell-hln. joining us to talk about this, michelle, and mike brooks. we also welcome back by phone t.j. with wsky in gainesville, florida. michelle, let's start with you. any new leads? investigators making any headway here? >> mike, 5,000 leads have come in on haleigh's case in the last five months. and any lead that has any credible information, or any kind of substantial information, i should say, investigators have gone out on. they have searched fields, they have searched the area in the neighborhood surrounding the place where haleigh did go missing from. even as recently as just a few

weeks ago, investigators were out at haleigh's mom's property, where they have reports a horse may have been buried on the land. what they did just to verify it was a horse that was buried on the land. they did not find anything else. they only did it for precautionary purposes. but at this point, still, as you mentioned, no suspects. there's no persons of interest in this case. mom and dad have been questioned extensively, along with misty, the father's new wife. and, you know, this is where the case stands right now. she has vanished. >> let's bring in t.j. hart, on the ground so close to the situation since day one. t.j., let's talk about the family. are they speaking to the media at all? are they talking to investigators on a regular basis, holding vigils? what are they doing at this point? >> the vigils continue. family members for the most part, the close family members, of course, get briefed by police on a fairly regular basis. some of the relatives outside

the immediate and secondary family, of course, don't get that kind of contact as regular. but some members of the family have been asked to keep the cards close to the vest. and let's proceed on this investigation. we don't need, you know, people leaking things out. and i don't think that anyone was really leaking things out. they were expressing frustration. those further out from the center of the family are expressing far more frustration as this investigation drags on. >> let's talk to mike brooks, investigator, hln law enforcement analyst. mike, what do you do as an investigator to keep this case fresh? to keep it in the public eye so you generate the leads you need to maybe crack the case? >> just recently, if you recall, a baby about three weeks ago, they decided they would get all of the parties together. you know, nanny, fbi, fdle, the prosecutor's office, to take a fresh look at this. and decide, okay, who's going to

do what. so they've been going back, going over and over all the leads they had, reinterviewing people. but right now, it seems like they don't have anything. >> michelle, what do we know came out of that roundtable that mike's talking about? >> sure. just sort of the same sort of information they've gone over before, but with a new set of eyes and new ears were inside of that room. kind of looking over those leads, and going back out, like i said, and just searching the lands, talking to people, going back out, reinterviewing the neighbors within a few-mile radius. a lot of those folks in that community have been interviewed up to ten times. i mean, that's a lot. if you think about it, mike, 5,000 leads for this case. that's a pretty substantial, not especially in such a short period of time, but this is still an active amber alert, sort of like the trenton duckat case. this is one of those that we have no answers, unfortunately. we just need a few little

nuggets there to put some things together. >> t.j., as michelle's talking about the number of people interviewed, we know we're going back to misty croslin, misty croslin cummings now, no consistent timeline with her story and she's the last one to see haleigh. >> she officially doesn't have a lawyer, so she does get spoken to from time to time. they're still trying to nail down the timeline. i want to go to the roundtable, the second roundtable, it never took place. but forensic evidence had not yet been analyzed. that was four to five months into the case, too. as far as reviewing a few things, there's been a request by some folks, including some family members, and believe it or not, even some psychics, to look at a piece of property directly behind ronald's home where haleigh disappeared. beyond some wods. there's a trailer there. they came to think that there's something that really needs to

be looked at once again, because of its closeness, and because of some odd and peculiar feelings that appear to be having about this resident, who is basically a squatter on this property. >> describe that for us, t.j. what is this property like? is it butted up against water? is it wooded? is it clear? is it an easy property to search? >> no, it's not easy. you can either take the dirt road, but it will take a little while because it's gated. but it's butted up against some property, there's mud out there, also metal hog pence that if you didn't know what they were, it would probably frighten the first person to ever come upon it. the gentleman who lives there is alone there by choice. and there are certain issues that have to be dealt with. we're probably dealing with this gentleman. >> mike, is that something you could? you circle back basically to ground zero here right behind the property where haleigh was last seen? >> absolutely.

if it's that close proximity and t.j. was describing that, why not? you know, look, you know me. we've talked about it before. i'm not a big fan of psychics in investigations. i don't believe in it. but you know what? at this point, 5,000 leads, no haleigh, why not. let's go there. if you need to get a search warrant, find out whose property it is, go to the property and find out whether -- take the dogs back there, cadaver dogs, anything else you need to do, take a look at this. why not. >> they said they have searched every square inch of that area. they say they appear to be satisfied with it. but i keep going back to the jessica lunsford case, where poor jesse was put in a plastic bag yards away from the house. >> after cops had already been there, you're absolutely right, t.j. >> thanks so much, guys, for the update. we'll continue to follow this. michelle, t.j., mike, we appreciate it always. now this. cops say they caught a teacher having sex with one of her

teenage students, getting friendly in the classroom even between periods. by the way, she's married, mother of three. prosecutors call this a calculated seduction. call in with your thoughts, 1-877-tell-hln.

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you can join us via e-mail, send us an e-mail via cnn.com/primenews. text us at hlntv, the number 45688, start your message with the word prim. all right. shocking allegations here of what authorities are calling a calculated seduction. prosecutors say a math teacher in suburban pennsylvania, married, mother of three, preyed on two teenage boys. here's a picture. heather zeo, actually video of her, 36-year-old accused of having sex with one of her 17-year-old students in the family minivan in a parking lot. the boy claims they kissed and fondled each other in her classroom before school, during second, fourth period. another 17-year-old student says she chatted him up about sex on facebook and claims she told him to delete evidence. we'll take your calls. 1-877-tell-hln. joining us to talk about it, her

attorney, defending heather zeo. and criminal defense attorney, former prosecutor. cooper lawrence, psychologist and author of the book "the cult of celebrity." mark, first off, is your client admitting she had sex with one of her students? >> mike, she hasn't admitted anything yet. what we're waiting for is the government to present her case. that started yesterday with a preliminary hearing. >> what's your defense here? where are you going as you question the victim here, and, you know, how are you laying out your side of the case? >> well, yesterday, a lot of interesting facts came out. number one, we found out that one of the victims had initially proposed to heather what he had seen in a dream, that is a dream about having sex with her. we further learned that he's been telling others and the public through his facebook account that he was actually over 18 years of age. and posted date of birth of 1989 for the public to see on his

facebook page. >> but even so, we've seen -- we've done stories and seen the stories where some man has sex with what he thought was a 20-year-old. she's 16. sounds like a flimsy defense to me. and he's quoted as saying she did know my age. she said once i turned 18, everything would be okay. i'd be a legal adult. sounds like she knew. >> that's not exactly what he said. in the testimony, i asked him carefully about whether or not he ever mentioned his age to her. he denied that. he said, no, i didn't tell her how old i was. i didn't tell her i was 17. and the only evidence we know that he set forth his age was on his facebook page. that would make him 19 yerj. >> but still, she's a teacher. she should know before she gets involved with a student whether or not -- i don't think ignorance is going to play well for you here. >> she's not charged with anything other than corrupting the more or less of a minor and endangering the welfare. so a critical -- a critical item

in the government's proof has to be that she knew that he was a minor. because having sex with a 19-year-old, whether it's your student or not, is not a crime. >> fred, help me out here. again, i'm seeing this as a flimsy defense. as i mentioned before, the example of a guy who says, i thought she was 20 and she turns out she was 16. that sounds like what this is here. >> you are seeing it as a flimsy defense. i know marc neff, he's a great lawyer. he'll go a good job with what he has to work with. but this lady was a teacher shesmt knew how old this student was. he can say what he wants. but in the eyes of the law, a 17-year-old is not in a position to make a decision as to whether or not he's going to hook up in the parking lot of the local target in the back of this lady's minivan. >> well, 17-year-olds, fred, as you well know, make that decision every day. >> look, marc, it wasn't that long i was a 17-year-old, maybe it was, and my hormones were

racing. in the eyes of the law i wasn't in a position. as a teacher, she's not in a position, and she should know better. even if she knew or thought he was 17. i understand what you're talking about as far as to get him convicted. but she was in a position of authority and took advantage of it. >> she's not charged with being a bad teacher. she's charged with corrupting the more or less of a minor. in order to prove that, they've got to prove that she knew he was a minor and that she did something that corrupted his more or less. if we listen to him, he was the one that proposed having sex with her. she was the one that had the dream. he was the one that wanted to go to bed with her. >> she's the teacher and the authority figure who should have said no. >> exactly. >> and that's what she's -- she's not on trial for being a bad teacher. >> she's on trial for having sex with a 17-year-old. which is exactly what she did. >> isn't there responsibility here, marc? she's a teacher. you don't prey op our kids. it's right, a calculated seduction.

>> the quote is from the prosecutor. okay? we don't view this as a calculated seduction. we view this as a 17-year-old with raging hormones who poses as a 19-year-old to get in the pants of his teacher. >> but she's the teacher who invited the students as a friend on facebook. she made the initial contact. so what if some 17-year-old or 18-year-old student is proposing sex to her. it's her job as a teacher to say no. cooper lawrence, help me out here. number one, our teachers shouldn't be friends on facebook with our students, am i right? or is that opening a bad door? >> it's inappropriate because it's a power relationship here. so in my opinion -- >> we lost cooper. she was making a great point. marc, did you have something to to with that? >> i did that on purpose. >> okay. guys, we've got to take a quick break. more after the break. we'll hear more from marc. we want your calls.

you're back here on "prime news" on hln. a math teacher, married mother of three, accused of having sex with a 17-year-old student and chatting up another student on facebook. possibly for another tryst. we have our experts standing by. i want to bring back cooper lawrence, author of the book "cult celebrity." she invited these kids as friends on facebook, that's a no-no. word of wise to the teachers, none of that. if you want to get a message to the students, give them a note. >> it's completely inappropriate. when you look at the history of sex and sexuality in this country, you know, the person who does the penetration is the one who has power. this is the first time we're

seeing the teachers -- the female teachers taking that position. so a lot of the parents don't take it seriously. they don't think there's anything going on. they think it's a female teacher and she's perfectly innocuous. perfectly innocuous. what they don't realize is the justice department is seeing more aggressive females than ever before and sexual aggression is something that we're seeing also with women, and this is an aggressive act on some level. >> yeah, it sure is. there are the numbers. 2500 students from the years 2001 to '05. that's just mind-boggling. let's get a call in real quick. craig in washington. craig, your thoughts. >> caller: yeah, i'm here. >> yeah, go ahead. >> caller: yeah, i'm here. >> go ahead. >> caller: yeah. i just wanted to say that there's more of this going on i believe than people think because i had an experience when i was 14. i went to a friend's house. and he wasn't home. so i waited for him. and his mother -- >> uh-oh. >> caller: -- jumped me. i mean, she jumped on me and

scared the crap out of me. and i didn't say anything about it for 20 years. because i was afraid, you know, i'd be called a wuss or something. that's what the other boys would have, or something. right? >> all right.÷ cooper, what about it? we saw the numbers there. and we have the caller with an example from even 20 years ago. is it happening more? >> i think it's happening -- that's a very good question. it's happening more because women feel empowered. >> but a married mother of three, cooper? >> that's the thing i was going to say, is most of these incidents go unreported. because you know, he was saying it almost like his mom attacked me, like it's kind of a no big deal thing. but it's a very big deal. but back then a kid, a little boy doesn't realize what a big deal it is, and they're not going to report it. a lot of sexual abuse goes unreported. that's the biggest problem. >> guys, we've got to run. fascinating conversation. we have more coming up about a possible murder on a cruise line. a husband killing his wife.

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a major discovery in the investigation into the murder of a florida couple known for adopting special needs kids. valuable evidence uncovered. a stolen safe. several guns, including possibly the murder weapon. plus an eighth person arrested. a woman here. what do police know about her? and within days we could know what killed michael jackson. the toxicology report due out at any time. plus the d.e.a. jumping in on the investigation as well. doctors associated with michael jackson under the microscope. are they responsible for killing the king of pop? you're a huge part of the show. love hearing from you. call in. the number 1-877-tell-hln. you can e-mail us.

cnn.com/primenews or text us. just start your message with the word "prime." text us at hlntv. it's your chance to be heard. >> controversy, opinion, your point of view. this is "prime news." welcome. this is hour number two of "prime news." i'm mike galanos. we have crucial evidence just uncovered in the murder of that florida couple who had adopted 13 kids, 17 children in all. investigators in escambia county, florida say they believe they have found the murder weapon among several guns. plus a safe as well. we'd talked about that. this all taken from the home. now, the state attorney says he believes that safe is the only motive here, the sole reason that several men broke into the house, some in full ninja garb. also today, an eighth arrest. this time a woman, pamela long wiggins. now facing charges of accessory after the fact of felony murder. take your calls. 1-877-tell-hln. joining us to talk about it, rob

williams, morning host for news radio in pensacola. also with us, hln law enforcement analyst mike brooks, and ed lavandera from our sister network cnn. ed's been on this one since the get-go. ed, let's talk about yesterday she was pamela laverne long, today pamela long wiggins, arrested. what more can you tell us about her and her possible involvement here? >> well, we do know that she was a long history apparently, or relatively long history with the man that authorities call the ring leader of this operation, and that is leonard patrick gonzalez jr. we have pamela's wedding certificate that apparently shows gonzalez jr. as one of the witnesses at that wedding, interestingly enough. authorities say she was his landlord, had various properties around here, and also had a lot of contact according to investigators here with gonzalez jr. in the days leading up and as well as the day of the murder. we also heard from some neighbors of hers that seemed to recall gonzalez jr., perhaps even his father, doing work around her house here in the pensacola area.

>> so that's the connection as far as them knowing each other. ed, anything on her connection with this crime? any specifics there? >> we had gotten a hold of the arrest report for her, and in that interestingly enough they -- we found out that authorities here had gotten a hold of a red minivan. this is different from the dodge bigger van that had come up in the surveillance video. but there's now a red minivan that was taken into -- taken by authorities here. and according to this arrest report, this was also used as a getaway vehicle. it was stationed near the billings' home before the crime was carried out according to this report, and they say that it was used as a getaway vehicle for the seven suspects that have been arrested. and authorities say that that red minivan is registered to miss wiggins. >> okay. mike brooks, our investigator. you hear that. does that tell us possibly she knew of the plot beforehand, or did they somehow get their hands on that van to use it as a getaway unbeknownst to her? >> i think if she had known about this plot beforehand she

would have been charged differently. this is -- she's now an accessory after the fact. but this van, it's very, very interesting because if you recall, mike, as eddie was saying, there was that large red van with gonzalez sr., gonzalez jr., and coldiron that came in from the east. or came in from the north. then you had the other team that came in a black or a gold metallic escalade. and now you've got this red van. okay? was this van, the minivan used to haul away the safe? that remains to be seen. was it used to dump the guns? that remains to be seen also. you know, they're not really saying exactly what her role was in this whole plot. >> bring in rob williams, morning host news radio 1620 a.m. he's been all over this one as well. rob, does pamela long wiggins have any kind of criminal history at all? >> well, they're not really talking about that very much. i've got the arrest report right here with all the details. and it does in fact look like based on the level of friendship that we're hearing between pamela wig sxinz pat gonzalez they knew each other, they were

good friends, neighbors, however you want to describe it, and he probably said pam, i need to borrow your van p. it might have been sitting around doing nothing. she said sure, here are the keys, see you later. that's all she may have known up front, which is again why it would have been after the fact. it turns out her husband had to tell the sheriff's investigators, yeah, that safe was here, it was in the back yard, it's not here anymore. >> got you. let's get a call in real quick, guys. vanessa in louisiana. hi, vanessa, your thoughts, comment, question here? >> caller: hi, mike, how are you doing? thank you. i'm calling in reference to the ninjas. you usually see like two or three men that will rob a bank dressed all in black. why on earth would it have to take eight, nine people to go in a home and kill two innocent people? >> that's a great question. ed, let's clarify here. so what number stormed the house? is it seven? is that the definitive number right now? or could it have been more? >> it was seven on the property. >> okay. >> authorities have said all

along that it was actually five people that broke into the house, three coming in through the front door and two from the back. were they working together? we haven't heard a lot of details as to exactly what happened once these men were inside the house. we do know that authorities have videotape of all of that and presumably they've been able to see it. but were they working together? did the two in the front know -- the two in the back know what the three were doing in the front? we can't tell you at this point. and that's why we asked early on, how big was this safe? was part of the reason that they needed five people inside the house, was it to carry something that was going to be extremely large and heavy? they described it as a medium sized one. when we saw the video of it, it was actually much smaller than -- >> that's a good point. let's take a quick break. when we come back we'll talk about some evidence found. our caller makes a good point. why seven people? and from what we're gathering here, they all could have been armed to rob a safe. that's what you're up against. you needed everybody armed? we'll sort this out for you.

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welcome back to "prime news" on hln. keeping you updated on the tragic murder of byrd and melanie billings. generous people who adopted special needs kids. we're finding out of an eighth arrest. we talked about that. pamela long wiggins. and we're also finding out about some evidence uncovered. let's go back to ed lavandera from our sister network cnn. been all over this since day one. when we were talking about and our caller brought up how this place was stormed and the caller said you need that many people to go after two folks. how many of them were armed? how many guns have been recovered, ed? what do we know? >> well, we've been -- some of

our colleagues have been asking some of those questions, and we understand -- in a recent interview we did with the sheriff one of my colleagues was told that there were -- in the sheriff's words, i want to make sure i get this correctly, in the sheriff's words it would be safe to presume that there were just as many guns found as there were people on the property. so you can kind of look in the neighborhood of seven or so. we've also heard from -- read in these public documents that there were several handguns and "long guns" used. every time they reference some of these weapons used, it's all in the plural form. so there are a number of them on the property. >> yeah, it's sad to think when you see the picture of bud and melanie billings and all their children that this is the end, the fate, the ill-fated end of their lives, stormed by these thugs here. we want to know more about byrd and melanie billings. who were they? their generous hearts and what they meant in the lives of the children and the lives of those around them in the community.

here's david mattingly from our sister network, cnn. >> reporter: outside the spacious pensacola home, a small memorial for an extraordinary couple. byrd and melanie billings, their love immeasurable, their deaths unthinkable. >> our mom and dad only had love in their lives. since the day they met 19 years ago, they knew they were soulmates. >> reporter: soulmates with a calling to let their family grow. byrd and melanie each had two biological children from first marriages. then together they adopted 13 other children, several with developmental disabilities. others came from abused homes and drug-addicted parents. all embraced with open arms and unconditional love. >> to our mom and dad, their children were perfect. angels that god provided them with to love eternally. >> reporter: for the billings the affection overflowed. from getting the kids ready for sleep to sending them off to school. >> they would get on the bus every morning, she would call them her little princesses, and

then one of the little boys, he would always get on the bus, and he'd blow her kisses and i'd say miss billings, he's blowing you a kiss. and she'd blow him a kiss back. >> reporter: financially the couple appeared secure. they were local business owners, operating a string of used car dealerships. they also ran a financial services company. public records show the billings took out two mortgages on their nine-bedroom estate, one for $300,000 in 2003, another for $265,000 last year. the house is worth an estimated $700,000. they also had an elaborate surveillance system. but authorities say it was there to keep an eye on the kids. >> those are special needs children. you cannot live in an open environment with that number of children that you have. so your surveillance systems, your security systems and those safety measures were placed there for what? for the safety of the children. >> reporter: tragedy has marked the billings before. three times. with the deaths of two adopted

children and one biological child. now in the wake of the killings a pledge from a family torn apart to stay together. >> we know our parents are watching over us now, reunited with their three angels in heaven. they will give us strength to make it through the hard times and their love to make the world a better place, just as they always did. >> reporter: the billings did make plans for the care of their children in case something ever happened to them. a spokeswoman says the children will be kept together as a family and raised by family. david mattingly, cnn, pensacola. >> sad, tragic story. let's bring back rob williams morning host news radio 1620 a.m. rob, do we know where the kids are right now? >> i had the lawyer on my show this morning on news radio 1620. they want to keep that a very secure, close piece of information. the sheriff's department knows. they probably have -- the police are sitting out front, for instance. but the family is very, very close on this.

not a lot of information coming out there. >> rob, what do -- we talk a lot about the investigation and how this went down and how we're going to catch these folks and convict them and get some justice here. but what about the people in the community? what are they saying about the lives of melanie and byrd billings? >> tragedy is the word you've heard. we're coming up short of one week since the attack occurred. tragedy is the word everyone uses. how sad. how sad for the family, how sad for the little kids who are getting unconditional love from people who actually could afford it and focus their attention and their resources into helping these kids, who really probably wouldn't have been adopted by anyone else under any circumstances. but the billings had it in their hearts to do that sort of work. >> well put, rob. again, we appreciate you coming on with us. rob williams, mike brooks, ed lavandera, thanks so much, guys. coming up, we're keeping you updated on the investigation surrounding michael jackson's death. toxicology report expected out

sometime soon. we want to know how many doctors associated with michael jackson are being investigated. were they responsible for killing the king of pop? call in. 1-877-tell-hln.

welcome back to "prime news" on hln. in a matter of days we might learn what caused michael jackson's tragic death. his life cut short. 50 years old. anytime now toxicology results expected to be released. we want to know, was his death an accident if diprivan was found in his system in is that an automatic homicide? dozens of doctors associated with him being investigated. we'll take your calls. 1-877-tell-hln. let's bring in our experts, joining us now, melanie bromley, west coast editor for "us weekly." also welcome back dr. leigh v o vinocur, emergency room physician from the university of virginia school of medicine. doctor, let me start with you. i just mentioned it. if diprivan is found in his

system, do we automatically have a homicide investigation? >> it would be pretty hard pressed -- i can't think of any reason why you should be taking diprivan out of a hospital situation when you're not having a surgical procedure or you don't need to go under general anesthesia for anything. so you know, i don't know about homicide, manslaughter, but it shouldn't be given outside of the hospital. >> i mean, is it safe to -- it's the height of irresponsibility at the least, right? >> absolutely. and ethically, as a physician giving something like that. i mean, i know he even traveled with an anesthesiologist. but we've talked before. you don't give this to someone to go to normal sleep. you make them unconscious with it so you can cut open their stomach or do whatever you need to do for surgery. so it's not a drug that you should be giving for sleep. >> will it tell us -- let's say diprivan is found in his system. does that automatically mean cause of death? >> well, no. they'd have to see levels of it and, you know, what was

happening. but certainly if you put somebody under anesthesia unconscious and you're not supporting their breathing with an intubation, a tube in their throat, i mean, that's a recipe for disaster. >> let's bring in melanie bromley, west coast editor "us weekly." melanie, we've mentioned it. there's been a number of stories. five doctors being associated with michael jackson being investigated. how many more could there be, melanie? >> i mean, potentially there could be tens of doctors. this is a guy who lived all over the world, who traveled all over the world, who i presume had doctors all over the world. and you know, money and fame kind of opens those doors so you can get access to things that normal people maybe couldn't. this is an investigation that could go on and on and include many people. >> back to dr. leigh vinocur. leigh, how difficult is it going to be in it almost cuts two ways. number one, to find out how diprivan was brought into michael jackson's house. that's one.

and also to find out how so many prescription drugs could have been in michael jackson's home. i wouldn't imagine there's a paper trail there on either front. >> well, prescription drugs there is more of a paper trail, but now we're giving out prescriptions in the name of his people, his entourage, and not using his name, that will be hard. and you know, don't forget, you can take non-fatal doses of anti-depressants or anxiety drugs or pain medicine, but when you put them all together that can cause the problem. and certainly diprivan, you can't write a prescription for that. so they do keep track. the pharmaceutical companies, according to the lot, which medical facilities get which drug. because if there's a problem with a certain lot they have to be able to go back to that hospital and say hey, there's something wrong with this lot number. so they do keep those records, but it's harder to figure out.

>> so leigh, they'll be able to trace the diprivan. >> they should be able to trace it. pharmaceutical k7z dispense to distributors who dispense to different facilities. you don't write a prescription for diprivan. it goes to a facility usually. >> we'll continue to follow it. again, toxicology report we heard possibly friday. looking more like next week. we'll keep tabs on that. couple other topics we'll hit on. we'll talk about the pepsi commercial back in 1984. we showed you the video yesterday. it's disturbing to watch. as michael jangs's hair catches on fire. that could have been the tragic turning pont in michael jackson's life. that was the opening when he became using pain medication and became addicted to painkillers. there's the aftermath as he was being treated for that tragic accident. and there's the picture of his hair on fire. we'll talk about that. and also a family intervention on michael jackson as told by one of the jackson family members. that's coming up. stay with us.

welcome back to "prime news" on hln. a math teacher, mother of three, married, accused of having sex with one of her teenage students in her family minivan. in the parking lot. and getting frisky in the classroom. how'd she get busted? well, cops say she was on facebook making friends with the teens. that's the first pitch. you're their teacher, not their friend. or sex fiend. call in if you have any thoughts on this one. 1-877-tell-hln is the number. want to update you on this story. believe it or not, five months now since little haleigh cummings went missing. 5-year-old girl van frshd her bed in satsuma, florida. five months. early on we had the intense search, the focus on wooded

areas, nearby water, a dumpster at one point. and we also had the sideshow to deal with somewhat, her father's sudden marriage to his 17-year-old live-in girlfriend, misty croslin, now cummings. custody fight. abuse allegations. yet here we are today. no charges, no suspects. and it looks like no clue where little haleigh is is. we'll take your calls. 1-877-tell-hln. join being us to talk about this michelle sigona with "america's most wanted moment hln law enforcement analyst mike brooks. also at.j. hart, news director wsky radio in gainesville, florida. michelle, let's start with you. any new leads? investigators making any headway? >> 5,000 leads have come in on haleigh's case in the last five months, and any lead that had any credible information or any kind of substantial information, i should say, investigators have gone out on. they have searched fields. they have searched the area in the neighborhoods surrounding the place where haleigh did go

missing from. even as recently as just a knew weeks ago investigators were out at haleigh's mom's property, where they had reports that a horse may have been buried somewhere on the land. what they did is went out there to verify it was a horse that was buried on the land. they did not find anything else. they only did it for precautionary purposes. but at this point still, as you mentioned, no suspects. there's no persons of interest in this case. mom and dad have been questioned extensively, along with misty. the father's new wife. and this is where the case stands right now. she has vanished. . >> let's bring in t.j. hart. he's been on the ground there so close to the situation since day one. t.j., let's talk about the family. are they speaking to the media at all? are they talking to investigators on a regular basis? holding vigils? what are they doing at this point? >> the vigils continue. family members for the most part, the close family members, get debriefed by police on a

fairly regular basis. some of the relatives outside the immediate and secondary family of course don't get that kind of contact, as regular. but some members of the family have been asked to keep the cards close to the vest and let's proceed on this investigation. we don't need, you know, people leaking things out. and i don't think anyone was really leaking things out. i think they were expressing frustration. those further out from the center of the family are expressing far more frustration as this investigation drags on. >> let's talk to mike brooks, investigator, hln laub enforcement analyst. mike, what do you do as an investigator to keep this case fresh, to keep it in the public eye sow generate the leads you need to maybe crack the case? >> well, you know, mike, just recently if you recall, maybe about three weeks ago they decided they were going to get all of the parties together, putnam county, fbi, fdle, the prosecutor's office, to take a fresh look at this and decide,

okay, who's going to do what, let's take a look at everything else. so they've been going back, going over and over all the leads they had, reinterviewing people. but right now it seems like they don't have anything. >> michelle, what do we know came out of that roundtable that mike's talking about? >> sure. well, the same sort of information that they've gone over before but just with a new set of eyes and some new ears were inside of that room, kind of looking over those leads. and going back out, look i said, and just searching the land, talking to people, going back out, reinterviewing the neighbors within a few-mile radius. a lot of those folks in that community have been interviewed up to ten times. that's a lot. and if you think about it, mike, 5,000 leads for this case. i mean, that's a pretty substantial amount, especially in such a short period of time. this is still an active amber alert, sort of like the trenton duckett case. this is just one of those that we have no answers, unfortunately. we just need a few little

nuggets there to put some things together. >> t.j., as michelle's talking about the number of people interview interviewed, we know what we're going back to, misty croslin, now misty croslin cummings, does she continue to be interviewed? because we talked about it. 30 hours. no consistent timeline with her story. she's the last one to see haleigh. >> she also now officially has a lawyer. so she does get spoken to from time to time. and we're still trying to nail down the course of that timeline. want to go back to that roundtable. a second roundtable was expected. it never took place. and in that first roundtable discussion some forensic evidence that was taken up by tech had not yet been analyzed and that was going four, five months into the case, too. and as far as revealing a few things, there's been a request by some folks, including some family members and believe it or not, yes, even some psychics to look at a piece of property that was directly behind ronald's home, where haleigh disappeared. beyond some woods. there's a trailer there. they seem to think that there's something that really needs to

be looked at, once again because of the closeness and because of some odd and peculiar feelings that they appear to be having about this resident who is basically a squatter on this property. >> okay. well, describe that for us, t.j. since you're there, what is this property like? is it butted up against water? is it wooded? is it clear? is it an easy property to search? >> no, it's not easy because you can take the dirt road but it's going to take a little while because it's gated. but it's out there right butted up against the property. there is some mud out there too. also some metal hog pens that if you didn't know what they were it would probably frighten the first person to ever come upon it. the gentleman who lives there is alone there by choice, and there are certain issues that have to be dealt with when dealing with this gentleman. >> mike, is that something you do? do you circle back basically to ground zero here right behind the property where haleigh was last seen?

>> absolutely. if it's that close proximity when t.j. was describing that, why not? you know me. we've talked about it before. i'm not a big fan of psychics in investigations. hocus-pocus. i don't believe in it. but you know what? at this point 5,000 leads, no haleigh, why not? let's go there. if you need to get a search warrant, find out whose property it is. get the search warrant, go to the property, and find out -- take the dogs back there. cadaver dogs. and anything else you need to do. go back there and take a look at this 37 why not? >> putnam county says we have searched every square inch of that area, they appear to be satisfied with it. but i keep going back to the jessica lunsford case where john evander couey killed poor jesse and put her in the ground in a plastic bag just yards from the house. if it wasn't for a second search they would have never found her. >> thanks so much for the update. we'll continue to follow this. michelle, t.j., mike, we appreciate it always. now this. cops say they caught a teacher having sex with one of her

teenage students, getting friendly in the classroom even between periods. oh, by the way, she's married, mother of three. prosecutors call this a calculated seduction. call in with your thoughts. 1-877-tell-hln.

welcome back to "prime news" on hln. continuing our conversation. a math teacher, married mother of three, accused of having sex

with a 17-year-old student and chatting up another student on facebook. possibly for another tryst. we have our experts standing by. want to bring back cooper lawrence, psychologist, author of the book "cult of celebrity." you were making a point. the point i'd made was she invited these kids as friends on facebook. that's a no-no. word to the wise to any teacher, none of that. you want to get a message to your students, give them a note. right? >> yeah. it's completely inappropriate. but you know what's so interesting, when you look at the history of sex and sexuality in this country, you know, the person who does the penetration is the one who has power. this is the first time we're seeing the teachers, the female teachers taking that position. so a lot of the parents don't take it seriously. they don't think there's anything going on. they just think oh, it's a female teacher and she's perfectly innocuous. what they don't realize is that the justice department is seeing more aggressive females than ever before and sexual aggression is something that we're seeing also in women. and this is an aggressive act on some level. >> yeah, it sure is. there's the number. 2,500 students from the years

2001 to '05. that's just mind-boggling. let's get a call in real quick. craig in washington. craig, your thoughts? >> caller: yeah, i'm here. hello? >> yo, eah, go ahead. >> caller: yeah, i'm here. >> go ahead. >> caller: i just want to say there's more of this going on i believe than people think because i had an experience when i was 14. i went to a friend's house and he wasn't home. so i waited for him and his mother -- >> uh-oh. >> caller: -- jumped me. i mean, she jumped on me and scared the crap out of me. and i didn't say anything about it for 20 years. because i was afraid i'd be called a wuss or something. that's what the other buys would have, or something. right? because it's -- >> all right. cooper, what about -- we saw the numbers there. and we have the caller with the example from even 20 years ago. is it happening more? >> i think it's happening -- it's a very good question. yes and no. it's happening more because women feel empowered, women feel

more -- >> but a married mother of three, cooper? >> that's what i was going to say. is most of these incidents go unreported. he was saying it almost like his mom attacked me like it was a kind of no big deal thing, but it's a very big deal. but back then a kid, a little boy doesn't realize what a big deal it is, and they're not going to report it. a lot of sexual abuse goes unreported. that's the biggest problem. >> all right. guys, we've got to run. all right. coming up, more on the death investigation concerning michael jackson. going to welcome in my colleague jane velez-mitchell. also ashleigh banfield. she's hosting "showbiz tonight." we're going to hit on a few angles. one angle we want to talk about, how they're going to track down dip prichb found at michael jachx's house, possibly in his system, as we await a toxicology report. call in. 1-877-tell-hln's the number.

welcome back. once again, you're a huge part of the show. we love hearing from you. here's how you can get in on the conversation. you can call us. 1-877-tell-hln's the number. you can e-mail us at cnn.com/primenews. or send us a text message to hlntv. the number's 45688. start your message with the word "prime." that way it comes right to us and then we can show your text messages, your thoughts throughout the show. at this hour building suspicion surrounding michael jackson's drorkts. we're not even sure how many to be exact are associated with him. four or five are being investigated at this point. are they responsible for his death? we know the toxicology report will be released soon. probably next week. we know all the allegations out there. and we have a ton of topics to hit on. we'll take your calls. 1-877-tell-hln. joining me to talk about it, my colleague, jane velez-mitchell, host of "issues with jane velez-mitchell" coming your way at the top of the hour less than 15 minutes away.

also with us, ashleigh banfield. she's hosting "showbiz tonight" right here on hln. she's also an anchor for in session. ashleigh, let's start with you. a lot of speculation around diprivan, the anesthetic that should only be used in surgery. whether or not it was in michael jackson's system, it was in his home. many asking, we talked about it earlier on the show, how are you going to track this? because it's not a prescription that you write obviously. how are you going to do that? who's going to get involved and who's going to track it down for us? >> it is a very, very controlled substance. we'll say that about this particular drug. and these things don't just fly under the radar. they're very regulated. and the d.e.a. has what you might call an electronic paper trail that they can fairly easily follow. they can go all the way from the manufacturer and through lot numbers and vial numbers they can go to the distributors as well. they can trace back months and months' worth of the sales of these things to particular doctors. and there are several reports out there, mike, right now that

suggest that is exactly what the d.e.a. has been up to for the last several weeks, going through that chain and using actual lots and vial numbers, if the reports are accurate at this point, of the propofol that -- and again, that's the generic name for diprivan. that were found in michael jackson's residence. >> get a call in real quick, guys. debbie in ohio. your comment or question here? >> caller: my question is how people that were around him so often, his friends like miko brando, are all claiming they had no idea he had a drug problem. >> very good question, debbie. let's go to jane velez-mitchell on that. jane, and you and i have talked about this. someone close to him needed to step up and love him and help him even if he wanted to try to push it away. there are so many stories out there, jane. can you help us get a clear picture? >> it's the dance of addiction, mike. and as a recovering alcoholic myself, with 14 years of sobriety, i'm very well aware of all the nuances. you have the addict and you have the enablers, the ones who cover

up and facilitate. that's an addiction in itself. it's called co-dependency. and co-dependency can be extremely strong when you're dealing with superstars because they have so much charisma that it actually supercharges the co-dependency, where these people will do and say anything for this godlike figure and they will go into deep denial. i mean, we've had, one of the trainers, talking nationally about, well, i never saw any track marks or needle marks on his arm but in the same breath he's saying, well, you know, he did work out with long sleeves and a jacket. who the heck works out with long sleeves and a jacket? so there's really this denial, the facilitation, the enabling, and the things that these enablers do is they minimize. in other words, oh, it's not a big deal. they rationalize. oh, the reason he did this is because. and they cover up. that's the classic co-dependent role. >> because they want to stay around michael jackson because they want the celebrity status

themselves, right, jane? >> absolutely. >> they don't want to tell him no and stand up to him and maybe get kicked out of hz life. let me ask you real quick from your experience, jane, did you have don't have to get specific, did someone come alongside you to help you in the victory of sobriety? >> oh, yes, absolutely. one of my best friends from college who sadly has passed away due to a completely unrelated illness, had gotten sober and he told me, hey, this is for you. and of course i didn't want to hear it, but then he was there when i hit bottom. as a matter of fact, i'm talking about all of this in my new book "i want," which comes out this fall, a recovery memoir. i found my real friends were the ones who would confront me and tell me the bad news. my fair weather friends, oh, you don't have a problem. henry david thorough said if you have three really good friends in your life, you're lucky. i don't know if michael jackson had three really good friends. >> he did have doctors around

him. ashleigh, five is the number we have now. how many more can there be, doctors associated with michael jackson? who betrayed him, in a sense? >> well, this could go back to 1984, mike, because michael himself admitted that his addiction to painkillers started from that horrible incident during the pepsi commercial filming where his hair caught on fire. and, listen, i have to say here, for so many years, so many people mocked this and made fun of it, but this video that's come out now has shown us just how horrible this actual incident was and how damaging it was to him. so, the painkillers that he needed and was prescribed after that incident, that could have been the turning point. we talked about that on "showbiz tonight" this evening. but all from that time forward, there could have been legions of doctors who were giving him full prescriptions, who were furnishing prescriptions to an addict. >> well put. >> what theanjane, we'll be wat "showbiz tonight" in about ten minutes. thanks, jane. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@