many alias. we also know when that -- the room he was staying in at that home in holmby hills, there are many pill bottles found at the home with various names on them. we also heard from various bodyguards of michael jackson who have said they were requested to get prescription drugs for michael jackson and many of them ended up leaving the job, because they ended up denying to do so. >> natisha, how many doctors do we think are being investigated now for writing these prescriptions? >> right now, they are looking at about five doctors. however, the attorney general's office is looking at dozens of doctors who may have been involved in getting prescription drugs for michael jackson. >> dozens of doctors writing prescriptions allegedly in the names of aliases. let's go out to a very special guest. so honored to have him. dr. joshua perper coming out of broward county, florida.

forensic pathologist, medical examiner for broward county. you have a wealth of knowledge you can impart to us. you did perform the autopsy of anna nicole smith. we did wait for a very long time until your results became public, results of the autopsy, the toxicology results. what you determined to be the cause of death for anna nicole smith. tell us what los angeles coroners are doing right now, because we are waiting for the results. who did you interview during this time, to give us a look at what they may be doing? >> there are a lot of really astounding similarities between the death of anna nicole smith, and the death of michael jackson. and in both cases one of the drugs which was used was an unusual drug, chlorohydrate, which is not used usually as a sleeping pill. in the case of michael jackson,

also a drug called propofol, which is, again, not used as a sleeping drug, used as anesthesia. basically at this time, because i understand that the medical examiner in los angeles asked for an additional delay in the toxicological examination, most likely they did not find so far sufficient amounts of the drugs or, perhaps, not enough explanations for the death. chemical overdose. so they have to expand it and try to enlarge the toxicological analysis or to do additional special tests in order to make a determination which drugs caused his death. and obviously, propofol is a major suspect, although, other drugs might be involved as well. >> when you look at diprivan, how long does it stay in the

system? because we don't know exactly when the testing was done, do we? >> no, that's a drug which is broken down or metabolized extremely fast. the half-life of the drug is about two hours. sometimes in rare cases, longer, up to 24 hours. so, this means that within two hours, the concentration, the amount of the drug in the blood is dropping by 50%. so, the long ter the person survived, the smaller the amount of the concentration of the drug. however, if he was a chronic user and used large amount of drug i think it's a very good probability that they would find the drug in the blood. the action of the blood is really taking place within seconds, within 40 seconds or so. the actual action is over in a few minutes, but the drug is still then distributed in tissue

so it doesn't enter the blood and affect the brain. >> one more question before i go on. there is toxicology testing. is there even more sophisticated toxicology testing they could be doing now at this point? >> it's possible that they try to come with more precise or better estimates of the actual concentration of the drug so they may use more sophisticated technique than they usually -- as i said, that's a very unusual drug which we see very rarely in a case of an overdose. >> let's go to lou palumbo, former nassau county police investigator, now a private investigator. the issue that the investigation is now expanding into alleged impropriety with physicians writing prescriptions for drugs in the names of aliases. we know that is a felony in california, it can be because of anna nicole smith and the doctors. howard k. stern was charged recently in that case.

they go to an internet database in california. how can that help determine what doctors wrote what prescriptions in what name? >> well, basically the database, what it will do is it will identify for any doctor in the state who dispensed the controlled substance. through process of elimination and tedious legwork, they'll go prescription by prescription if necessary. they'll break it down into region. they'll create almost like a grid and narrow it until they can focus in on the physicians that they believe were complicit in dispensing drugs to him inappropriately. >> that can take a long time i think. you know, the way i look at it, i think we have several investigations going on at this point. let's go to the attorneys. jason oshins. defense attorney out of new york. joey jackson, defense attorney out of new york. patricia saunders, clinical psychologist. we'll get to you in a second. to our attorneys, i see various levels of investigations going on now. because there is an investigation into writing prescriptions in bogus names. that could be a felony, under

the california health and safety code, especially when it's a conspiracy. there's also a investigation into the cause of death. there's multiple layers to this, right? >> absolutely. there really are. you're dealing with an iconic man right here. he's world renowned. everyone's going to be as thorough as they can be. as detective palumbo told you, they're going to scour all the records. they're going to check with manufacturers. they obviously have a finite list of doctors involved with them. they're going to keep pushing that until they come up with more answers for their questions. absolutely. >> indeed. jean, there's really two layers here. one is administrative in that the doctors certainly are going to have to be accountable for what they prescribed. administratively they face the loss of license. the second and more severe layer, of course, that's the criminal investigation as to whether they could be deemed criminally culpable for death. ♪ it don't matter if you are black or white ♪

he was the biggest superstar in the world. we're just now recognizing it. ♪ they don't really care about us ♪ >> aeg told cnn jackson passed a five-hour medical exam in preparation for his tour. >> all i know is the michael jackson that hugged me and said good night was a healthy, vibrant human being. >> when i hear people saying that michael was in great shape and that he was raring to go, i know this is untrue and they know it was untrue as well. michael was not in good physical shape. michael was not raring to go. >> reporter: in response to allegations aeg refused to make jackson's schedule easier, randy phillips told us jackson had agreed to 50 shows, adding, he needed the money. rowe believes jackson was weakened by what he calls the singer's addiction to prescription drugs. >> i'm doing well and i am strong.

as you may already know after my tour ended, i remain out of the country undergoing treatment for dependency on pain medication. this medication was initially prescribed for the excruciating pain i was suffering after recent reconstructive surgery on my scalp. >> reporter: rowe told me one week before michael jackson died he spoke with some of his family members about getting him help, including his father, joe jackson, and his brother, randy. he said they all agreed to get jackson into rehabilitation. but they never had the chance. he died before they could even make a move. >> i'm jean casarez of the legal network, "in session," in for nancy grace tonight. video has come out that has been sheltered for 25 years. it was in 1984 that michael jackson had such a critical, critical injury as he was filming a pepsi commercial. we want to warn you that this video that you're about to see is very, very graphic. it's very, very disturbing.

it's hard to watch, but it's important to watch because this may be the reason as to why michael jackson developed such a serious addiction to drugs. an addiction that he admitted in video. you see him walking down the steps there. he doesn't even realize that his head is on fire. it's reported that he felt a burning sensation, thought it was the lights. all of a sudden, as you can see, he realized something was wrong. everyone came in to help him. the fire department was standing by. when he raised up, we saw something that michael jackson allegedly wanted the public to see in 1984, he wanted the public to see that his head was burned. that it was very, very seriously burned. there is his scalp right there. to melanie bromley, west coast bureau chief of "us weekly." you are out in los angeles right now. that is a clip obtained by "us weekly" of the pepsi commercial

tape showing how severe michael jackson's injuries were when his hair caught on fire. you got this clip, i assume, after michael jackson died? >> yes. we obtained this clip recently, yes. it's 25 years old and it's still shocking to watch. especially knowing what we know now about his addictions and how long his addictions went on. you look at this tape and it's kind of haunting to think this could have been where it all began. >> sure. what more have you learned about his addictions that allegedly emulated from that injury? >> we know he suffered second and third-degree burns from this commercial that went wrong. because of that he was prescribed pain medication. this was when he was first prescribed it. this is kind of when it all began. it was also when he started having reconstructive surgery on his scalp in order to be able to repair the damaged skin. it's also when he started to make some sort of changes to his physical appearance as well. so it's kind of that you can

pinpoint this as a moment that really was, in a sense, the beginning of the end. it's when he started on pain medication. it's also when he started having surgeries. >> to brad lamm, board certified interventionist. changesomeoneyoulove.com. why didn't a rehab facility work for michael jackson? >> that's such a great question. i've had clients that have gone to treatment four and five times. sometimes families have called me and gone through this so many times. sometimes you don't know what the math is, you don't know when the miracle will happen. i encourage family members to keep trying and help and step in and separate their loved one from the addiction. when you're addicted to the type of medications it's reported michael jackson was addicted to, it's really hard to stop, it's even more difficult to stay stopped. >> to dr. joshua perper, what did michael jackson actually go through painwise with second and third degree burns? >> most likely he had physical burns from the second or third degree.

certainly third degree with destruction of skin, with reconstructive surgery. it's very painful. one of the most painful type of pain is that of burns. people who experience that know that. >> and would the skin on your head be more sensitive than skin on other areas that is uncovered? >> well, the skin on the head is a bit thicker, but it's still sensitive. as the skin in other areas. it's thicker than on other portions of the body, but it's still very sensitive to pain. there are a lot of pain receptors in the skin. >> to dana in delaware. good evening, dana. what's your question? >> caller: good evening. thanks for having me. my question is, do you think now with all of the suspicions around these doctors who prescribe all of these addictive medications that maybe now there can be new laws made concerning how these doctors prescribe medications or better enforce the existing laws concerning how

the doctors can prescribe all these medications? >> great question. we'll touch on it when we come back from break. i think one issue is diprivan is not a controlled substance. should it be? we'll look at that when we come back. ♪ because we got nowhere to go ♪ that's why i want you to know ♪ ♪ i'm starting with the man in the mirror ♪

we have got some breaking news coming into headline news right now at this hour. walter cronkite has died. the most trusted name in america. a newsman that we all watched, grew up with, walter cronkite has died at the age of 92. we will have more information on this as it becomes available. back to michael jackson, the investigation into his death. the investigation into the cause of his death. i want to go to the attorneys right now. jason oshins, defense attorney out of new york. joey jackson out of new york, esteemed defense attorney as well. i, myself, i called the drug --

the dea, the drug enforcement administration, to ask them questions about diprivan. what i found out was that as we may have known already, it is not a controlled substance at this point. but they said that they are involved in the investigation in los angeles in regard to the death of michael jackson. for two reasons. number one, they have so much expertise into doctors and issues of medications. but number two, they have been looking to make diprivan a controlled substance for two years now. they want to look at this case to help determine if they should do that. to jason oshins, there are a lot of federal laws that cannot be brought against any doctor at all, because this is not a controlled substance. >> well, you know, a couple issues we're talking about. one was the question just asked by the caller in terms of the laws in effect. there are significant laws in effect. you talk about enforcement. that only comes forward when a situation like this comes to light. certainly it crystallizes the need, perhaps, in the

manufacturer's mind to have this as a controlled substance to prevent this situation from happening. >> joey jackson, your thoughts? >> i think it's not because of its lack of availability. in other words, it's generally used in a hospital. it's used when it's supervised by doctors. certainly to the extent it could bring about potential prosecution or save lives, it needs to be considered in terms of that. >> that's one thing the dea said to me, it has not -- they have not found widespread abuse in it but it is growing. that is one reason they want to look at this case as a prototype. let's go out to teresa. caller teresa. hi, good evening. >> caller: good evening. my question is do you think at the custody hearing the judge is going to ask for dna testing on the kids and debbie rowe and the dermatologist that michael jackson, who claims is the father? because what's going to happen if katherine gets custody of the kids and she has a heart attack, falls over and dies, god forbid. what's the psychological effects the kids are going to have on all this?

>> that's a very good question. because it is presumed that the people that are on the birth certificate of the child are the parents. but that's a rebutable presumption. let's go out to jason oshins, defense attorney. what do you think? >> you're head on on that. that's only going to come up if someone asserts the fact that they are the parents of that child. that's when it will show up. ♪ because this is thriller thriller night and no one's going to save you from the beast ♪

unfortunately, he needed proper medical attention, and he said he didn't think he could pull it off. and by not pulling off those 50 dates, he had hundreds of million dollars in debt. he just felt this was the end. how was he going to pay these off -- >> you wrote in the book, he told me two hours after he died that, quote, michael was tired of living. explain that. >> well, what the source meant there was michael was confused. he really did not know where to turn because of all the debts. he didn't know how to dig himself out of it. he knew, and i said this the night his concert tour was announced. i said, i'm not even buying my plane tickets. i said this on british national television. i said these concerts would never happen. michael jackson realized quickly -- he was in a wheelchair wearing a surgical mask. they tried to prop him up with all kinds of drugs.

these enablers have got to be brought to justice. a proper investigation has got to be done asap. >> firpo carr, jackson family friend, former family spokesperson, do you know michael jackson in these straits? was he that sick the week before he died? do we have firpo carr? >> yes, hello, i'm here. >> hi, firpo. >> can you see me? hi, how are you? >> i can hear you. was he that sick in the week before his death? >> michael jackson was a healthy person. you saw him there. but he would fluctuate in and out of good health and bad health or poor health. i like to say, also, in regards to michael jackson, that he was a man who had a lot of weight on his shoulders, true enough. his investigation by lapd will be a good one. i'd like to defend them here, especially having worked for them. having known the principals there, particularly commander kyle jackson who's in charge of robbery/homicide division. also chief william bratton. these guys are top-notch guys

and they will have the best looking after this investigation. but in regard to michael jackson, very specifically, i'd like to make the point that this man was, yes, he was a conflicted soul, but he was a man who cared a lot for his fans and he would give 100% and he wanted everyone, obviously, to be on their best behavior. >> firpo, he didn't want to die, did he? one of the causes of death they're going to look at is suicide. he didn't want to die? >> no, no, no, no. this was not a suicide. forget that. no, forget that. that's madness. he knew he would not -- in fact, he kind of intimated that to me, that he would not be -- he would not grow to be an old man in this system of things. he felt, as lisa marie presley said after what i said which was similar that, hey, he would not grow old here. at the same time, this was not his time. this was not a suicide by any stretch of the imagination. >> firpo, we want everybody to listen to a brand new song, previously unreleased, of

michael jackson. this is allegedly michael jackson's unreleased song. ♪ she said don't you worry my friend i'll take my hand ♪ ♪ i'll take you there ♪ take me to a place without no pain ♪ ♪ take me to a place without no name ♪ >> and that was a song that has previously been unreleased. we have not received confirmation from sony. it is a song america recorded with a different name. in the 1970s. they were given permission to allow michael jackson to record it. that is the song. let's go to a caller now. to pam in massachusetts. hello, pam, thanks for waiting. >> caller: hi, jean, how are you doing tonight? >> i'm okay, thank you. >> caller: something is bothering about the day he died with this 911 call. there's been conflicting reports. number one, they said he was by

himself when the doctor found him. then they said that he collapsed in front of blanket. okay? what is this going to do to that child? when they made the 911 -- who made the 911 call? nobody's ever discussed this 911 call to any great length. it doesn't make any sense. they did not say the name of the patient who was michael jackson, which would have probably been much better for them to do. also, do you think there's a possibility that the doctor put him under and could not bring him back, so that's why it took so long for this to happen? >> you know, you have some questions that are at the heart and soul of the investigation that is going on right now. a very, very good investigation, i believe, from los angeles county. to mary margaret, senior news editor, radaronline.com. response? >> we do know that it wasn't blanket. we might -- prince might have been in the room. in terms of who made the call, it was his bodyguard.

we do know there was a lag time between when people found michael jackson collapsed and when officials were called. ♪ some things in life ♪ just don't want to be ♪ but if martin luther were living ♪ ♪ all i have to say ♪ they t about us about the living ♪ ♪ all i want to say ♪ they don't really care about us ♪

investigators scrambling to find 2-month-old baby boy andrew christiansen, after he's vanished. cops say andrew was supposed to go into child protective custody but that's when his parents disappeared. andrew's mom found days later but andrew and his dad still missing. >> i'm jean casarez of the legal network "in session" in for nancy grace tonight. we need your help in finding a 2-month-old baby boy, a precious baby boy missing now.

out to clark goldbrand, nancy grace producer. tell us what has happened? >> jean, law enforcement is concerned out of clark county, washington, for the welfare of 2-month-old boy andrew christiansen. he was taken by his parents in the vancouver, washington, area, sometime earlier this week. what happened was his parents were supposed to turn the child over to cps. now, jean, this was because of past violations including a home that was allegedly not fit to live in as well as the mom's alleged meth use. >> cps being child protective services. what is -- the belief now is he was with both parents. the mother is in custody? right? so he's not -- >> exactly right, jean. mom, shondra christiansen, was in custody since wednesday. she was picked up on a probation violation. the dad is nicholas christianson, 5'7", 190 pounds. brown hair, hazel eyes. law enforcement thinks he may

have his son, 2-month-old andrew. >> let's go to sergeant scott seanirker, pio, public information officer of clark county sheriff's department. thank you so much for joining us tonight. we want to try to help you to find this little baby boy. what is the latest on the investigation? >> i was just updated by one of our detectives who said he had warrants that were generated out of clark county for both the mother and father for a couple of different charges. one of them is custodial interference of the father. also issued a warrant for an assault in the second degree that was a "d," domestic violence related issue, not with the mother but with a previous -- >> domestic violence on the child? is that what you just said? >> no, the father had a warrant issued for him for domestic violence charges against another individual. >> okay. all right. when was the baby last seen?

>> the 15th is when they were supposed to be handing the child over to cps. >> now, the mother is in custody, is that correct? >> that's correct. she was picked up down in an area called lane county, oregon, on an outstanding probation violation. she's in their custody right now. our impetus was to get these warrants from our jurisdiction signed so they could hold on to her without allowing her to be released. >> i assume she was not with the father of the child or the baby. was she walking, in an apartment? where was she when she was arrested? >> i don't know those answers. that was from a different state, different jurisdiction, obviously. our concern was mostly she was scheduled to be released today at 5:00 had we not have gotten the warrants. we're going to hold on to her for that. they're going to hold on to her. >> what is your concern for this baby, andrew christiansen, right now? >> obviously, the concern that

is we just don't know where he is or the father is. shondra has been in jail for a couple of days and has not given any indication she wants to give information about the whereabouts of them. that's concerning. it's not an abduction type of a case. it's simply cps had determined this was an unfit home for whatever reason at the time and was going through a process with these folks. they obviously decided to not go by what the agreement that they had with child protective services. >> we want everybody to hear and see the tip line right now. let's see if we can show that. if you know where this baby is, the number is 1-877-274-6311. again. 1-877-274-6311. out to patricia saunders, clinical psychologist. what is the mindset of a parent that knows he should not be with his child at this point, that he should be with child protective services? >> someone who has really

impaired judgment, jean. that their judgment was bad enough they didn't fix the home environment, that it was adjudicated or judged to be unfit, they didn't do anything about it. this baby is really at risk with a dad who is on the run and may not be able to take care of him at all. >> obviously a 2-month-old baby does not know what is happening, right? there is nothing that could emotionally injure the little boy at this point, correct? >> not really. but there -- he could be at risk physically. and in terms of negligence or possible abuse. >> back to sergeant scott shoniker, pio at the clark county sheriff's office. the last time that the father was seen with the child, was he in a vehicle? could he be near an interstate? can you give us any more information so people out there, truckers out there listen to radio on this, could help find this child?

>> what we know is that the vehicle they were last seen in has been impounded down in lane county. it is unknown to us right now whether there is a vehicle. >> okay. so you don't believe he's driving with the child anywhere or are you just uncertain at this point? >> it's hard to tell. the vehicle that they had when leaving clark county is accounted for. so they don't have access to that vehicle. they could be in a borrowed vehicle or something like that that nobody knows about. >> as you can see, it's right on the border of washington and oregon. the state of oregon. once again, tip line. 1-877-274-6311. 2 months old. blue eyes and brown hair. let's find andrew christiansen. and tonight, "cnn heroes."

this is rio de janeiro, and it is so beautiful, but it has a dark side. >> it is the kids who have the toughest here. >> sometimes i am scared. >> they don't have any options, and kids dying everyday for making the wrong choice. every time i see a villa, the one thing that comes to mind is potential. i'm flavio can to, and i want to change kids' lives through sports. the one thing i tell the kids is you cannot get used to the violence around us. we have to fight back somehow.

instead of fighting the streets, they learn how to use your energy in the right way. >> i feel that flavio helps me win lot of championships, and he helps me feel very proud of myself. >> helping kids avoid the wrong choice is one of our goals. they don't need to follow the destiny everyone told them they would have. they can change it. they're the true heroes.

and now a look back at the stories making headlines this week. >> i want to show you that video that many people believe is the inception of michael jackson's addiction to prescription painkillers. that pepsi commercial taping shows how severe jackson's injuries were. >> they were blinded by the fame, blinded by the glitter and blinded by being close to a superstar. >> so the editor of "us weekly" that he traveled the world trying to get drugs from various doctors and succeeded. truth? >> absolutely. and he did it all the time in any way he could.

>> the "new york post" is reporting that debbie rowe, jackson's ex-wife agreed to drop any custody challenge for $4 million. now, her attorney denies it, and says it is completely false and rowe doesn't want jackson's post. she even asked for the "post" to file a retraction. >> bombshell, charges leveled tonight, charges that michael jackson was murdered. >> la toya jackson sat down for four hours with this reporter last thursday and began to discuss what she thought was, quote, the murder of michael jackson. >> a tragedy occurred in escambia county with the murder of byrd and melanie billings. >> police say the billingses were ambushed when two groups of men burst into their home killing them execution style. >> who would kill a couple who opens their homes to special needs kids? >> it is my honor today to tell you that we have found them and they are in custody. >> a lot of people are writing and calling in wanting to know where the 16 children are.

where are they? >> a lot of them are grown. the nine that were in the house were young and they're with other family members right now. >> tonight let us stop to remember 30-year-old marine corporal thomas saba, toms river, new jersey, killed in iraq. he was awarded the purple heart. he loved the movie "braveheart," the sport racquetball and tae kwon do. he planned on becoming an elementary school teacher. he leaves behind his mother barbara, his father anthony, one brother, two sisters. thomas saba, he is an american hero. thank you to all of our guests. but our biggest thank you is to you for being with us, inviting us into your homes this friday night. see you tomorrow night, 8:00 sharp eastern. sharp eastern. good night, everybody. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com

i'm richelle carey this is your hln prime news break. eight americans were hurt in suicide bombings at the jw marriott and ritz-carlton hotels in jakarta, indonesia, on friday. surveillance video at the marriott shows a man pulling a suitcase heading toward the hotel restaurant seconds before the explosion. six people kill and more than 50 wounded. a florida couple shot and killed in their home were laid to rest friday. they had 17 children, most of them adopted with special needs. police say a safe taken from their home contained only prescription medication, family documents and jewelry. seven men are charged in the murder and eight suspect a woman is charged as an accessory after the fact. and the space shuttle "endeavour" arrived at the international space station friday. before docking it did a back flip so nasa could photograph the heat shield for damage.

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