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your message with the word prime. it's your chance to be heard. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com this is "prime news." before we get to those stories, first this breaking news in the investigation into the death of michael jackson. just hours ago, federal drug agents raided the office of dr. conrad murray. that's him on the left. his office in houston on the right. dr. murray's lawyers say detectives are looking for evidence of manslaughter. he said the search is a complete surprise. dr. murray was michael jackson's personal doctor and was with him when he died. we'll take your calls, 1-877-tell-hln. joining me now to talk about this, randi kaye from our sister network cnn. first off, do we know what they were looking for, what they took out of the offices there? >> we do know what they took. we can tell you that they took a forensic image. this is according to his lawyer, to dr. conrad murray's lawyer. he said the investigators took a
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forensic image of a business computer hard drive. along with 21 documents. he also made a point of saying that these 21 documents, this was paperwork that had not been previously requested by the lapd, or even by the coroner's office investigators. so there is something curious about that. we know that they issued this search warrant. they went in there, the raid was completed by about 12:30 or so this afternoon houston time. this was done by homicide detectives from the lapd robbery homicide unit, by houston police and the federal drug agents. and we're told by dr. murray's lawyer that the search warrant authorized law enforcement, this is really key here, to search and seize items, including documents that they believed constituted evidence of the offense of manslaughter. mike, this is the first time we are actually hearing the word manslaughter officially used in this investigation. as you know, all along they've been saying this is not a murder
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investigation. this is not even a criminal investigation. and once again, we just checked with the lapd, right before i came on air here with you, this is still a death investigation, not a criminal investigation just yet. >> okay. so many ways to go here off this, randi. his lawyers basically have been saying, they've been working with investigators. whatever they want, they can have, right? >> absolutely. they've said all along that dr. murray is a witness, not a suspect. they've been giving them everything they want. in terms of paperwork, interviews. he's been interviewed twice already by investigators. and according to the spokesman for the lawyer, she told me today that the raid was a complete surprise. her exact quote is, the raid was absolutely a surprise to us, because we've had open lines of communication this whole time. so there you have it. they've been talking. in fact, she told me also today, the spokeswoman told me even this friday, a couple of days from now, they're scheduled to have another mect. this would be between dr. conrad
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murray's lawyer and lapd investigators. it's not clear yet whether dr. murray would be there yet. but investigators now want to talk to him for a third time. clearly there was some cooperation, a meeting scheduled on friday. she's not even sure if this is going to happen yet since this raid came out of nowhere. we know he was there with michael jackson in his house when he stopped breathing, when he suffered cardiac arrest. we know that he is his personal physician. michael jackson had personally asked the promoter of his -- what would have been his final tour to -- that he wanted dr. murray to come with him on tour. he would pay that expense by himself. so it's really interesting as to why they want to talk with him again. the doctor has always said that he didn't give him, through his lawyer, he said he never gave him demerol or oxycontin and never given him a drug that should have killed him was the exact quote. so again, what are they looking for, what do they want from him in a third interview? it's really tough to know at
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this point. >> do you know what triggered this raid? are they getting information from an autopsy report? >> it's possible. we know there have been two autopsies, one by the family, a personal autopsy and one by the coroner's office and lapd. we do know also that the toxicology results have -- keep getting pushed back. but they have to be close. so have they gotten a little bit of information that maybe they want to take a look at? we know that reportedly diprivan is very powerful sedative, found in michael jackson's house, along with him. la toya has said that there were oxygen tanks lining his bedroom and i.v. drips. these are all things that would have been used in association with this diprivan, which is not supposed to be used outside of a hospital setting. dr. murray refuses to comment at all through his lawyer about diprivan at all. so we don't know what they know, what the coroner's investigators know, what the lapd knows, in terms of the toxicology. but it supposed to officially be released next week. so they might be getting close.
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they might have seen something that sparked their interest and decided to go looking for it without any notice to dr. murray or even his lawyer. >> okay. again, developments there. randi kaye from our sister network cnn. thanks. also coming up, a jaw-dropping article from "rolling stone" concerning michael jackson, the last days of his life. one thing i can tell you, people who saw him in the hours before his death, at his final dress rehearsal, they say he was better than ever.
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1-877-tell-hln. joining me now to talk about this, eric baits, an executive editor at the "rolling stone." ken baker, executive news editor. let's start with you, eric. since we're coming off our discussion with dr. conrad murray and his offices in houston being raided. what more will this article tell us about the relationship between dr. murray and michael jackson? >> one of the most surprising things we found is the doctor had asked for $1 million a month in order to be jackson's personal physician. he wound up being paid about $150,000 a month. but still, that's a pretty striking demand on his part. >> $1 million per month. who is the source on that? i'll be hitting you with these questions with these startling revelations. >> i can't say the specific source, but we talked to dozens of people close to jackson, professionally and personally. that was somebody who was in a position to know. one of the thing we did have on the record is one of the concert promoters questioned jackson
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about the $150,000 expense. and jackson kind of re buffed him, which he didn't usually do, was quite angry, he said it's my body at the center of this whole money-making enterprise, and like president obama, i need an attending personal physician 24/7. >> how many doctors were -- do we know were being paid to tend to michael jackson? >> well, the two doctors that we know for sure who were treating michael in the last few weeks of his life were dr. conrad murray, which we've been talking about, but also dr. arnold klein. dr. arnold klein is a well-known beverly hills dermatologist who has been treating michael for 15 or 20 years. michael was going there regularly, sometimes two or three times a week in the weeks leading up to his death before he would go to rehearsal, down at the staples center. he would stop by dr. cleern's office. they were very good friends. dr. klein has been paid a visit by officials to his office where they did collect some evidence as well. he's been questioned by the
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lapd. so he has also been a witness to this investigation that they've been talking about. now, beyond that, it's been reported that as many as five, maybe six doctors have been sought out for questioning by the lapd to find out what their knowledge is of the drugs that michael jackson may have been getting, including prop i follow, which we've all been told was the sedative, this powerful anesthesia basically that michael jackson was on at the time of his death. >> let's get in a call real quick. a lot of folks wondering about that. when will other doctors' offices be raided. leslie in north carolina, hey, leslie, your comment or question here? >> caller: yes. mike, i just want to first say that your show is great. >> hey, thanks, leslie. >> caller: and i wanted to ask, is the coroner's office or the local authorities, are they obligated to release autopsy results if there is a criminal case filed? say someone's arrested. do they have to release it? >> good question there.
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ken baker, can you handle that one? >> that's a very good question. we asked that same question of the l.a. county coroner's. what they told us is if there's an ongoing criminal investigation, they do not have to release any information that can some way impede that investigation. so what we may find out is in a week's time, they may say, look, we have a cause of death, it is cardiac arrest but we're not going to get into the details, we're not going to share the results of the toxicology, because basically that could somehow impair tha investigation. >> okay. let's get back -- bring back eric baits of "rolling stone." eric, you had mentioned here before we started talking about dr. murray and the raid there, you mentioned michael jackson, needing a doctor. basically he set him up. you quoted the verbiage in the article, "my body makes this go" basically. what are your sources telling you? what we're hearing, in that last
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rehearsal he was incredible. >> he was still underweight a few months before the rehearsal, he was still down to 127 pounds. he was working out, interestingly, with lou ferrigno, who played the incredible hulk on television. he's six foot tall, so 127 pounds isn't much. he wasn't getting enough sleep, and not eating a lot. his choreographer was trying to get him to eat. the concert promoter brought in an assistant to make sure he ate enough. >> guys, let's take a quick break. we'll take some of your calls, 1-877-tell-hln. as we continue the conversation concerning the latest into the death investigation of michael jackson. we know dr. conrad murray's offices have been raided in houston. we're also getting one-of-a-kind insight into the final days of his life.
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you're back on "prime news" on hln. incredible heroic footage. a family saved from a fiery van. there you see a neighborhood came to their ris cue. two men went inside the fiery flames to pull out a 4-year-old boy. i'll have the honor of talking to dhos heroes coming up to hear that tale told firsthand. incredible. we all wish for that type of courage in that type of situation. we're going to talk to them coming up in just a little bit. more on the death investigation of michael jackson. dr. conrad murray's houston offices raided. looking for evidence of manslaughter. that's according to his attorney. we're also talking to eric baits, executive editor of "rolling stone," about really a jaw-dropping article. details of michael jackson's life, his goals. let's talk about that, eric. the goals of michael jackson. we've gone back and forth about the number of tour dates, whether or not he agreed to ten or 31, up to 50. how does that story play out according to your sources? >> he originally agreed to 31.
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it's interesting, because according to the promoter who negotiated the deal with him, michael chose that number specifically because he wanted to have more shows than prince had performed when he opened at the '02 arena in london. michael had in his mind a rivalry going with prince. he wanted to beat prince out and have more shows. after they announced the tour, the concert performances, there was such a demand that the promoter called michael up and asked him to increase the number. and he agreed to increase it to 50, but only on two conditions. first he wanted an english manor with rolling hills and animals that he and his children could stay in during the shows. and secondly, he wanted at the end of the shows to be given an award in the guinness book of world records for the most concert tours. he wanted to be recognized as the greatest. >> the article puts it very well. that's the two worlds of michael jackson. on one hand he wants to live the life of seclusion with his
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children, and wanted to be praised as the greatest entertainer ever. christine in florida, your thoughts here? christine? >> caller: yes. >> go ahead, christine. >> caller: they knew he was sick like he was, to me they should have got him help a long time ago. just adding more problems to the fire. >> yeah, he was -- eric, thanks for the call, christine, as eric points out there, when he was on stage, he was on. eric, any more description of that final rehearsal? he rehearsed for about three hours on stage, right? >> he was there for six hours on stage for about three. everybody there said it was like seeing the old michael again. he was back. he had that swagger. he popped. he knew what he was doing. the caller was right, he certainly needed help, and the people around him appeared to be enabling him. it was basically doctor driven, that michael would doctor shop to give michael the pills he wanted. but michael was very ambitious.
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he was in control of this effort to stage a comeback. he was planning every detail of it. he was at rehearsals, involved. he wanted this very, very badly. and was doing what it took to get him up to strength in order to be able to perform apparently. >> reading that article, it sounds like he was very involved. jim moret of "inside edition," former anchor for cnn. continue to paint the picture you and i have talked about. yes, when it was time to turn on the lights, he was there. but behind the scenes, it seems like a lot of yes men, and maybe women as well around him. and not always for michael jackson's best interests. >> even if you look back to the 23 3 raid when they found a number of drugs under aliases, and some of them in the names of employees, this is all consistent with the picture that's being painted about michael jackson today. and as eric said just a moment ago, the 31 shows is exactly consistent with what we found and completely inconsistent with what joe jackson claimed the
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night before last on "larry king live," that michael only agreed to ten shows and was duped into being 50. that doesn't seem to be the facts at all. >> eric when we talk about the shows, the tour, a possible album, one of the motivators i thought was interesting was kids. he wanted the kids to see why everybody praises their dad so much, right? >> that's right. the promoter who negotiated the deal with him said michael wasn't motivated by money, which is maybe why he was so bad with it and spent so much of it, he was really motivated by showing his children why the world was so crazy about him. his children were too young to see him in his prime. this seemed to be a big take your kids to work for michael. >> the number 1-877-tell-hln. as we continue our conversation into the death of michael jackson.
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[ music ] >> welcome to comcast local edition, i'm donna richardson, and my guest this hour is christine bergmark who is the executive director of the southern maryland agricultural development commission. welcome, christine, it's good to have you here. >> thank you for having me. >> that's a big mouthful, and i know that you're working on an extremely exciting program, bi-local challenge. >> it is an initial that we launched two years ago, and essentially what it is is the last full week of july we ask everyone across the state of maryland and beyond to take a pledge, and the pledge is eat something or drink from a farm every day during that week.
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>> oh. so where do we get the information about where to find the farms or how do we sign up for this pledge? >> well, there's a website. it's www.by-local-challenge.com that website will give you all sorts of information why to buy local and where to buy local and it connects you to other statewide initiatives that are going on at the same time. if you go to the website, we've added a count. people used to say, where do i sign up? normally you have to go buy, eat something from a local farm. this year we decided to add a counter to the website. when you are' counted, you can receive a certificate with your name on it that you can put up in your office or your home or wherever. >> which is very, very important. it's reduces your carbon foot print because you're driving
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hopefully a shorter distance, you have access to local products that are available, and also it helps the farmers. >> well, and in fact, our theme this year is healthy plate, healthy planet. all kinds of benefits to buying local, benefits for you, healthy, nutrition, it's fresh, and preserving our farms survive, we keep clean water, we keep clean air, we reduce the carbon footprints from things traveling 1500 miles, and it tastes good. >> exactly. now for those people who may not cook, how can they be a part of this? >> yeah, sometimes people say, well, i hate to cook. that's okay. you can go to a store or to a restaurant that features local farm products, and there are more and more restaurants every year, some of them are on our website, and you can click throughout to find out who they are,. >> what kind of items can we acquire localfully.
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>> during the last week of july, there is so much product available. there's sweet corn, blackberries, all kinds of tomatoes and melons are in season, and of course, there's always wine, cheese, eggs, meatss. >> so we do have a wide variety of things we can get. say that i go and i go to a local farmer's market and purchase something, what is a vegetable that i'm not quite familiar with, how did i find a recipe. >> excellent question. there are recipes on our website. people can post their own recipes of their own events and own blogs by why they buy local. some of the things i wanted to mention is the economic benefits. we talked about the planet, we talked about the fact that it tastes good, and it's fun, but there's also the benefit of
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supporting our farms, and if every household in the state mucofmaryland were to buy just 2 worth of products for 8 weeks, basically the summer season that, would put $200 million straight back into the pockets of our farmers. that would do a lot to keep our farmers thriving. >> which is so important. i know we have less than 30 seconds, but you have some partners that you wouldn't typically think of who have now joined in. >> yes. hospitals are joining in this year. fact, they're looking to do a competition to see how many people they can get involved. >> have you exciting. christine, thank you very much for coming in today. >> thank you. >> my guest today has been christine bergmark with the southern agricultural commission. if you're interested in what comcast is doing in your area, go to on demand and click get local. for comcast local edition, i'm donna richardson.
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call the mother lode of valuables behind? >> the only thing i can think of is it was either buried in the floor or it was a safe they couldn't move. keep in mind they were in there just a little over four minutes. the whole operation only took around ten minutes, from the time they unloaded from the van and the escalade and came in the house. so maybe it was just something they could not pick up. because the smaller safe that we've seen the deputies rolling out, it looked like that was just one they could pick up and go with it. maybe they thought the money was in there. or they had the other safe and knew they couldn't get in, so just took what they could get. >> did that change the way we look at motive here in a sense? as you point out the numbers, four minutes to commit the crime, ten minutes in all from the time they pull up to the time they leave. you don't think they would have spent another five, ten, 20 minutes to try to get that safe out of there? especially if they thought the surveillance cameras had been disabled. >> it was immovable. keep in mind, they did the dry run one time apparently at the house, and that wasn't covered on this video surveillance.
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there was no surveillance video of that at all. i've been talking around, richelle and i were just talking about maybe the person who was supposed to cut off the surveillance for the real deal just said, okay, we're going to practice it, and west through and did it, that's why there's no recording of the dry run there at the house. >> what do we know about the dry run? the obvious question off that one is, if you pulled off the dry run 30 days ago, and if you entered the house, why not steal everything then? >> exactly. but apparently there was something, mike, something that kept them from taking it at that time. there are also out in the woods, apparently practicing this whole thing, out in the woods a dry run at the house, maybe there was just a short amount of time, they knew that no one would be there, or able to come in and do the dry run. or was it under the guise of doing work for him. we don't know. these are just different theories that no one's talking about. >> we're getting a little better picture, mike, of the mastermind, the alleged
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mastermind here, leonard gonzalez jr., also his father, leonard gonzalez sr. the relationship, the way we understand it, had been estranged, but are in jail for separate crimes, have become reunited. let's listen to leonard gonzalez jr.'s sister talking about her own brother. >> they are hateful. they are dangerous. they need to be removed out of society. >> there she is talking about both leonard and his son. >> nice loving mentoring relationship between father and son in jail. >> do you think leonard sr. was the guy who gave him the idea, hey, i've been in that house, there are some valuables in there? >> it could very well be, mike. then they got the other ne'er-do-wells to join their little band of merry men to go ahead and do this raid. you know, but look, these aren't the brightest bulbs on the porch. after they did this crime, they
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all met up at a shopping center. what do you have at shopping centers, mike? surveillance cameras. and that's when they apparently were able to see that miss wiggins, the accessory after the fact, that's where they gave her the property from the -- the proceeds from the crime and she went and buried the small little safe in her backyard. >> allegedly she's helping conceal evidence after the fact. >> allegedly, that's exactly right. >> mike, thanks for the update. also this coming up. incredible fire rescue. it's been caught on tape. >> come back! there's a baby in there! >> told you, unbelievable video. neighbors turned heroes. they risk their lives to save a family. i'm going to talk with two of those heroes coming up. we'll take your calls as well, 1-877-tell-hln.
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an amazing rescue. neighbors coming together to save a mother and her two children from a burning van. what you're about to see, again, incredible video. let's take a step back. let's give it a watch here. again, this is a mom with her two kids driving. we're going to see the crash here. imagine you're a neighbor here. what do you do? what goes through your mind? who's going to be the hero? really, everybody jumped in. we're spot shadowing here. we see the little girl come out first. the little 4-year-old boy is still stuck in there, he's trapped because he's in his
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booster seat. and he's strapped in with a safety belt. so somebody had to get in there and get him out. two off-duty firefighters, they're heroes in this story, folks. john and joe went in. you can see the verbiage here. anyone got a knife? it's going to blow up. that gives you a picture of what's going on as people are watching this. this van could have blown, let's face it. in the end, everybody's out. the little guy still rufrg recovering. john and joel, guys, thanks so much. john on the left, joel on the right. john, let me start with you. you guys off-duty firefighters. you've got no protective gear. you see this unfolding. john, what's going through your mind? >> the only thing going through my mind is getting this little boy out of the vehicle. there is no thought process. we're reacting to the situation that's unfolding in front of us. our training that we receive at
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the fire department, our experience just teaches us to react. >> joel, same thing with you. there's no thought. hey, i could get hurt here. you guys are just reacting? >> no, there is no -- you know you're going to get hurt. you know you're going to get burned, cuts, but your number one goal is to save that child's life. that was everyone's goal there on scene that day. it was just a tremendous effort. >> joel, i'll stay with you. so you guys are in now. when you get to the van, what are you experiencing? what's going on? >> just panic. you can tell in everyone's voices, there's panic. everyone's in just a uneasiness. everyone's working very, very hard. at that time, john pulled back the windshield. as you see in the video. at that time i entered the vehicle. and i saw d.j. and you could see him at that time. he's still -- he was okay. but everything around him was burning. he's just screaming. >> oh, wow. you've got a screaming 4-year-old. john, i take it it's hot.
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let's be honest here. that doesn't register, huh? you guys are thinking, let's rescue this kid? >> correct. correct. you know, when we first arrived, i was able to actually visibly see the child, or look into the vehicle, i couldn't believe how clear it was. you know, typically our experience, when there's fire, there's smoke. our visibility is down to nothing. but in this case, visibility was fantastic. that aided in the speed of the rescue, because we knew exactly where d.j. was. we knew where the straps were. even though we initially tried to pull him out, and then we couldn't find the release, that's when i had to -- we had to call for the knife. >> you guys panicking at all? or were you pretty calm as this was unfolding? >> i think you can tell, there's definitely a sense of urgency there. our tone of voice, we need a
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knife. when you have a 4-year-old boy screaming for his life, and he's literally on fire, there is a sense of urgency. you know, a sense of panic. but you're focused enough to know what has to be done. again, john had the presence of mind to call for that knife and get in there. once he had it, and do the job that needed to be done. >> john, your feelings when you were able to cut that seat belt and free little d.j.? >> i tell you, i cut the seat belt, and again, did i get everything that i needed. when i started really feeling relieved at that moment, even inside the vehicle, was when he -- i was able to pull him forward towards me. and i basically rolled out of the vehicle with him in my arms. and you see me with him on the street. >> joel, your emotions as -- you basically saved a life here. >> again, it's such a great story. the best thing about it is that
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it's a total team effort. it really shows how good milwaukee is, how good the training in the fire department has given us. just how everyone comes together to save a life. and that story doesn't have a successful ending, or happy ending without the help of the neighbors smashing the windows. the garden hose and the person with the pocketknife. it's just a total community effort. it's uplifting. >> so well put. we've done some stories where people stand and watch when they should help. you had all the help you needed there. let's get a call in real quick. billie from texas would like to chime in. your thoughts for these heroes here? >> caller: i would like to add the same thing. you've got firefighters that are, you know, off-duty. but you've got all of these other people from the neighborhood that are stopping. and that's what makes this whole thing worthwhile. this is america. this is how we help people. >> that's right, billy. does all of our hearts good.
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hopefully it will inspire us all to want to jump in. i want you to listen to the boy's father. you may have heard this. we just want to -- just how thankful he is for, again, neighbors, friends, and heroes like you. let's listen. >> i'm sorry, i'm a little -- i'm trying to hold it together. that's my little boy. i'm going to turn it over to the doctors. but i just want to thank everybody, the citizens of milwaukee for helping us. it's wonderful. angels all around us. i'd like to thank everybody. >> i want to hear from both of you. your thoughts as you hear from an emotional father like that? >> i tell you, it's heart-wrenching. being a father myself, i can only imagine what he's going through, and the feelings he's experiencing. i was so glad i did get the opportunity the following day to get up there and meet d.j.'s
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father, james. and give him a big hug. i really -- it was tremendously emotional. >> i'm sure. joel -- >> it's just rewarding to see obviously we have a community that can come together at a time like that. and be recognized as a community. and the father was just so thankful. and it just -- it speaks volumes for like americans, we come together in times of crisis. >> before we let you go, we see you've got a bandage on your right arm. what are your injuries, john, as well? what's going on here? >> for me, nothing compared to what d.j.'s going through. second, third-degree burns. i'll be back working in two, three weeks. john's the same. we'll be back soon. all thoughts and prayers, please, send them to d.j. and his family. because he's the one that is the trooper going through the pain and the surgeries to make that full recovery.
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>> he's got to go through recovery here. he's got severe burns for him, correct, guys? >> yes. >> it's been an honor to talk to both john and joe. thanks for your story. thanks for doing the right thing. >> thank you. >> a great story. guys, appreciate it. >> thank you so much. coming up, a story, we're not reveling in it at all. it's horrifying. espn reporter, erin andrews, secretly videotaped in her hotel room. the video gone viral. some creep violating her privacy and then sending it out on the video for all the world to see. how can we catch these people and how can we get that video shut down? we'll be talking about that. taking your calls 1-877-tell-hln.
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female sports reporter in the privacy of her hotel room. erin andrews, very talented. now some sicko has posted her naked video all over the internet. let's bring in richelle carey. we're sickened as we hear this story. we want to know what happened. where did all this take place? >> we've got the story from herñ attorney. she was alone in÷ñ her hotel ro when this video was shot. about five minutes long. it's very grainy. and it shows andrews with no clothes on, getting ready in front of a mirror. we don't know where or when this video was shot. although there are reports this may have happened more than once. because the video appears to show her in multiple hotel rooms. as you mentioned, all over the internet, that's how these things go unfortunately. espn is doing everything it can to get those videos taken down. and her attorney is threatening to file civil suits against the
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person who created the video, and anyone who has posted this video, or even showed any still images of it. they are trying to stop this dead in its tracks, mike. >> so many ways we want to -- >> horrifying for her. >> multiple hotel rooms, huh? >> possibly. >> richelle, thanks for that. sick story. we want to find this perv and justice served in all this. we take your calls, 1-877-tell-hln. joining us to talk about it, hln law enforcement analyst mike brooks. also with us, attorney, law professor, avery friedman. and someone who knows this topic all too well, lisa guerrero, for "inside edition." also was a sports caster, fox sports, and had to deal with the same kind of garbage. again, we'll take your calls, 1-877-tell-hln. lisa, first off, on this incident here, then we'll get into your story as well, do we have any idea where this happened? richelle just reported multiple hotel rooms now. >> right. that's what we heard as well.
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the initial report we got was that it happened last week when she was reporting for the espys in los angeles. and since then,angeles. and since then some new information has come out that it may have happened to her multiple times over the last year. we certainly hope not. but as a sports reporter myself i can tell you that when you travel and you cover teams unfortunately being a female sportscaster is a double-edged sword because you want to have a big fan base but sometimes some of those fans have a tendency to cross the line. and apparently, that's what somebody has done with erin. she's got a beautiful look, but she's also a terrific sportscaster, and it's a shame that this would happen to somebody as talented as she is. >> lisa, a lot of our viewers are interested in your story, what you had to deal with. did you have this type of thing, where people were -- you had these crazed fans following you on the road in did they come to the studios at fox sports? what happened here? >> yeah. at one point i was on the sports update desk for fox sports net, and security came to my producer and i, and they said, lisa,
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we've got to put you in a secure place because somebody has just broken onto the lot. apparently, they got on a plane from florida, flew to los angeles with the intent of meeting me. they broke onto the fox sports net lot, and they had a bunch of pictures that they wanted me to sign. it ends up this guy had a very long criminal background. so fortunately, in my case they caught the guy. but you know, in some cases you just don't know when to expect something like this to happen. when i've done live sports before, you're sometimes in the middle of a crowd. you're on a sideline. you're right next to fans. and there have been times where a fan has reached over to try to touch me or grab my hair. and i'm normally -- when i was on "monday night football," they protected security. they had security with me everywhere i went from the hotel rooms to the field and back. but unfortunately, sometimes you have -- >> lisa, let me interrupt you real quick. we've got more after the break with lisa and our panel. stay with us.
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a huge twist in the murder investigation of a wealthy florida couple. a source telling us about a second safe inside their home. this one apparently considered, quote unquote, the mother lode. so why was it left behind? there's a baby in there! >> a fiery wreck. a mother and her two small children trapped inside a burning minivan. neighbors risking their own lives to be heroic in this situation. an amazing rescue. you can't stop watching it. i'm going to have the honor of talking to two of the heroes who went into a burning van to save a child's life. you're a huge part of the show. love hearing from you. the number 1-877-tell-hln.
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you can e-mail us, cnn.com/primenews. or you can text us at hlntv. just start your message with the word "prime." it's your chance to be heard. >> controversy, opinion, your point of view. this is "prime news." >> welcome once again. this is "prime news." i'm mike galanos. hour number two of our show. and before we get to those stories i just mentioned, breaking news in the investigation into the death of michael jackson. just hours ago federal drug agents raided the office of dr. conrad murray. you're going to see pictures here. dr. conrad murray on the left. that's his office in houston on the right. dr. murray's lawyer says detectives are looking for evidence of manslaughter. he says today's search is a complete surprise. and remember, dr. murray was michael jackson's personal doctor and was with him when he died. as always, we take your phone calls. the number, 1-877-tell-hln. joining us to talk about it, a man who's been on this story since day one, ted rowlands from our sister network, cnn. ted ofshlgs want to know, number
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one, what triggered this raid here? do we know anything on that front? >> well, basically, it was really a bombshell. not necessarily the raid, mike, but this press release from the attorneys for dr. murray saying that in the search warrant that federal officials along with the lapd detectives said that they were looking for evidence consistent with manslaughter. and that evidence that they took out of this clinic consisted of 21 documents and then, probably more importantly, a copy of the hard drive. and that's a portion of that statement. the search warrant authorized law enforcement to search for the seized items, consistent with manslaughter. so this is the first time we've heard publicly that this indeed is a homicide investigation. this should clear up any confusion around that, that they're targeting specifically dr. murray potentially with a homicide investigation. so from the standpoint of the search that's ongoing. yeah, that was big. but boy, the statement was really big in terms of where law
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enforcement's going potentially with this. >> let's bring in jim moret, chief correspondent "inside edition," attorney, former cnn anchor. jim, ted just said it. the game has changed. this is huge. murray's attorney talking about evidence of manslaughter here. >> yeah. it was confusing, to say the least. he also issued another statement. i want to read this because it's really fascinating. this is the attorney speaking of dr. murray. "he should not be a target of criminal charges. dr. murray was the last doctor standing when michael jackson died. it seems all the fury is directed at him." another odd statement, but it also implies, at least in this attorney's mind, that there were other doctors who are involved in the investigation. >> great point. ted, let's pick up on that. are other doctors -- how many other doctors are being investigated? and should we expect other doctors' offices to be raided like this? >> well, possibly. you know, and not just doctors, but we're also hearing that potentially a nurse-practitioner that dealt with jackson had her
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office not raided by any stretch of the imagination but had some documents subpoenaed from her. we're basically talking about a huge net that has been cast in this and there will be doctors most likely that are looked at not only for the potential death of michael jackson they're involved in but as a next step -- we saw this with the atlanta wrestler. that doctor. they may get hit with the d.e.a. investigating them on their prescriptions, who they've prescribed over the years. murray obviously at the center of this. but as jim just said, that statement, their argument here is that hey, he was the last in a long string of people, he did his best to save this guy's life. we'll have to wait to see where this all ends. but i think a lot of doctors are nervous and a lot of them have retained counsel. >> when we talk about what could have triggered this, in a case like this did those who pulled off this raid, they have information from the autopsy. could that have triggered this? >> absolutely. they have -- they may have a lot
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of information, frankly, from the autopsy. the coroner has said that information will not be released piecemeal. but clearly they've had questions. which is why the autopsy results were not released last friday, as first suggested. they aren't released now. we were told as of friday they may not be released for a couple of weeks. because of the additional questions the coroner's office had. so clearly they want to know the origin, where michael jackson got certain drugs that might have been in his system at the time of his death. and that may be why they're looking at additional records going specifically to the last doctor who treated him. >> good point. let's get a call in, guys. laverne in pennsylvania. hi, laverne. your thoughts, comments, question here. >> caller: yes. you know what, first of all i want to say you've got a good show. >> thanks. >> caller: i'm on air? >> yeah, you're up. go ahead, laverne. >> caller: oh, okay. sorry. what i like the most is the day that michael jackson's house got raided and they found all those drugs, why didn't they go to dr.
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murray's office after that? if he was the last doctor who was with michael and michael had all that stuff in his house and dr. murray left before the police got there, then he took two days and came back with the lawyer. why didn't they go to his office and raid that then? >> that's a couple great points there, laverne. jim, let's hit on the latter half first, and then i'll go to ted with the first point. why wait? makes a good point there. they confiscated his car. why not go to his offices at that time? >> well, it wasn't -- it was even more complicated than that. the lapd did not secure the house for four days. they didn't secure the house that day because the following day jackson's own family had a moving van and they were removing items from the house. so the area wasn't even secure. they took some items that first day, and then four days later the coroner's office shows up and takes out two bags of drugs. but you know, what we're talking about here specifically, if we're looking at diprivan, it's not something that would be prescribed. it's not under a prescription.
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so perhaps they're looking for things that were not ordinarily prescription drugs. it's hard to say specifically what they were looking for. they took 21 documents, and as ted pointed out also a mirror image of the hard drive. so they're doing some background checking. they're connecting the dots, trying to trace items, see where they came from and how they got to michael jackson. >> guys, we're going to have to take a quick break here. much more on this coming up. again, to reiterate, huge development. dr. conrad murray's houston offices have been raided. we'll continue the conversation about the death investigation kerng michael jackson. call in. the number 1-877-tell-hln.
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i love hearing what you think. call in. 1-877-tell-hln's the number. you can shoot us an e-mail. cnn.com/primenews. that's the website. or you can text us your comments. text them to hlntv. the number's 45688. just start your message with the word "prime," and we'll show your text messages at the bottom of the screen throughout the show. and there's a new way to get in on the conversation. just become a fan of "prime news" on facebook. we'll let you go behind the scenes with myself, richelle, the rest of the team, get a head start on some of the stories we're working on, some of the angles we're covering on that. love hearing from you. go to the website for more info, cnn.com/primene cnn.com/primenews. and we'll give you more information now about the death investigation concerning michael jackson. we know that dr. conrad murray, his offices in houston, texas have been raided. we have our experts standing by. again, we'll take your calls. 1-877-tell-hln. want to bring in lisa bloom, cnn
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legal analyst. also an attorney. lisa, what do you make of this? obviously, it's huge when even conrad murray's own attorney is letting us know, they're looking for evidence of manslaughter. >> yeah. that jumped right out at me. i'll tell you, it was buried way down in his statement this morning. but when i saw that word "manslaughter" i thought, wow, for the first time we're get something sort of confirmation that this is a homicide investigation. the police said a few days ago they're not doing a murder investigation. well, of course it's not a murder. no one's saying there's a premeditated killing of michael jackson. but that doesn't rule out other homicides like volunteer manslaught voluntary manslaughter, involuntary manslaughter, negligent homicide. and now the attorney is saying it's a manslaughter investigation. i think that's a very significant development. >> jim moret, you read the statement. clarify for our viewers again. and basically, the statement coming out is that what, dr. murray's just one of many doctors who had prescribed drugs for michael, right? >> yeah. it was curious. because all this attorney really had to say was dr. murray's
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office was searched, they cooperated as they have fully throughout the investigation, and ended at that. this attorney didn't have to use the word "manslaughter" and dr. murray in the same sentence for his client. it was curious why he did that. >> let's bring in ken baker, executive news editor for e. ken, what do we know about dr. murray's conversations with editors? when was the last time? when will he again? >> we've been told conrad murray actually spoke to the police at the ucla medical center just right after michael jackson was pronounced dead at that hospital. he had been with michael jackson that whole day. he was actually in the ambulance and assisted the doctors at the emergency room to try to revive michael for some two hours after he arrived. and he spoke to police there. we're also told that two days after michael death on that saturday he also met with investigators for several hours, answered all their questions. now, after that he sort of went underground. around that time he had a spokesman. he had a lawyer for him that was speaking. and then he stopped talking.
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we've been told the lapd has been seeking a third interview. and that could happen as soon as friday. but we don't have any confirmation yet. >> ted, do you know anything about that? is a friday meeting coming up? >> that's been reported and we haven't had confirmation of it. what we have heard time and time again from murray's lawyers is we are zblult cooperating. that's yes said they were surprised today, because he said those documents they wanted we would have given them to them. he didn't expect the lapd to show up with the d.a. and take the documents. he said they have had what he thought was a good discourse back and forth of full cooperation. >> lisa, help us understand that. so if they're cooperating and if they just would have asked, so why do you go in raid style in houston? >> because this is a competent investigation and law enforcement should never tell anyone when they're going to go in and do a raid because that obviously gives the target of the raid an opportunity to go in in advance and clear out any incriminating items. so even if the doctor has been cooperating, it only makes sense
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as a matter of good law enforcement strategy to go in there to look for prescriptions, to look for documents, to look for the computer hard drive, whatever else they're looking for, without warning. that's just how it's done. >> let's get a call in, guys. deanna in california. deanna, your comment or question here? >> caller: i think blanket looks like michael jackson. >> there you have it. that kind of threw me there a little bit. as we've talked about the three children. we know the first two debbie rowe we believe is the biological mom. and there's been question about whether or not michael's the biological father. well, thanks for the call, deanna. kind of threw us off there a little bit. let's get back to the investigation here. all right, jim. so where do we go from here? ken, ted both talking about a possible friday meeting. number one as we've been talking about -- let me backtrack for a second. if you're dr. murray, aren't you getting in your lawyer's face and saying hey, watch the words you use here in a public statement? >> well, and public statements, you underscore that. there's no reason. you don't need to portray your
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client as the target of a criminal investigation. worse still, a homicide investigation. look, manslaughter clearly a serious charge. i think that most people had expected a series of drug charges to come out of this investigation, not necessarily with respect to dr. murray, but clearly the investigators have been looking at drugs, the use of aliases, the use of doctor shopping, because as we've heard throughout the last few weeks michael jackson was known to have a drug problem and was believed by those close to him to be doctor shopping. however, this ratchets up the investigation and raises the stakes. not only for dr. murray but for other doctors who are involved who are also lawyered up now as well. >> thank you to my expert panel. more "prime news" coming up.
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female sports reporter with no clothes on. this while she was in the privacy of her hotel room. we're talking about erin andrews, one of the best-known espn reporters. very talented. and now some sicko has posted her naked video all over the internet. let's bring in our "prime news" correspondent richelle carey. you know we're sickened as we hear this story, richelle, but bottom line we want to know what happened, where did this all take place? >> all right, mike. we got the story from her attorney. erin andrews' attorney says֖ s was alone in her hotel room when this video was shot. about five minutes long. it's very grainy. and it shows andrews with no clothes on getting ready in front of a mirror. we don't know where or when this video was shot. although there are reports this may have happened more than once because the video appears to show her in multiple hotel rooms. and as you mentioned, it's all over the internet. that's how these things go, unfortunately. and espn is doing everything it can to get those videos taken down. and her attorney is threatening
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to file civil suits against the person who created the video and anyone who has posted this video or even shown any still images of it. they are trying to stop this dead in its tracks, mike. >> in so many ways -- >> horrified. >> yeah, it really is. now multiple hotel rooms, huh? >> yes, possibly. >> richelle, thanks for that. again, sick story. we want to find this perve, and we want justice served in all this. we'll take your calls. 1-877-tell-hln. joining us to talk about it, lnl law enforcement analyst mike brooks. also with us-a toe, attorney, l professor avery friedman. and someone who knows this topic all too well. lisa guerrero, correspondent for "inside edition," also was a sports caster, fox sports, and had to deal with the same kind of garbage. again, we'll take your calls. 1-877-tell-hln. li lisa, let me start with you. first off on this incident and then we'll get into your story as well. do we have any idea where this happened? richelle has just reported multiple hotel rooms now.
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>> right. that's what we heard as well. the initial report we got was that it happened last week when she was reporting for the espys in los angeles. and since then new information has come out that it may have happened to her multiple times over the last year. we certainly hope not. but as a sports reporter myself i can tell you that when you travel and you cover teams, unfortunately being a female sportscaster is a double-edged sword because you want to have a big fan base but sometimes some of those fans have a tendency to cross the line and apparently that's what someone has done with erin. she's got a beautiful look, but she's also a terrific sportscaster. and it's a shame this would happen to somebody as talented as she is. >> lisa, a lot of our viewers are interested in your story, what you had to deal with. did you have this type of thing, where you had these crazed fans following you on the road? did they come to your studio at fox sports? what happened? >> at one point i was on the sports update desk for fox sports net, and security came to my producer and i and she the said lisa, we've got to put you
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in a secure place because somebody has just broken onto the lot. apparently, they got on a plane from florida, flew to los angeles, with the intent of meeting me. they broke onto the fox sports net lot and they had a bunch of pictures they wanted me to sign. it ended up this guy had a very long criminal background. fortunately-n my case they caught the guy. but in some cases you just don't know when to expect something like this to happen. when i've done live sports before, you're sometimes in the middle of a crowd. you're on a sideline. you're right next to fans. and there have been times a fan has reached over and touched me or tried to grab my hair. when i was on "monday night football" they had security with me everywhere i went, from the hotel rooms to the field and back. but unfortunately you have -- >> lisa, let me interrupt you real quick. we've got more after the break with lisa and our panel. stay with us.
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i'll see you at 3:00! announcer: captioned telephone - enjoy the phone again! new details now coming out. a second safe found inside the home of a husband and wife murdered in an elaborate break-in scheme. the first safe we know was stuffed with medicine, personal documents, some jewelry, that's it. well, now a source tells hln there was a second one left inside byrd and melanie billings' florida home. it was considered the mother lode of valuables, supposedly stacked with $100,000 cash. the obvious question, why they did not take it. we'll take your calls, 1-877-tell-hln. joining us to talk about this, hln law enforcement analyst mike brooks. mike's been on this one since day one. mike, how does that happen? if you've got this elaborate scheme, you've practiced it for 30 days, you've had the dry run, you're going to leave what they're calling the mother lode
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of valuables behind? >> mike, the only thing i can think of is that it was either buried in the floor or it was a safe they couldn't move. because keep in mind, they were in there just a little over four minutes. the whole operation only took around ten minutes from the time they unloaded from the two -- from the van and the escalade and came in the house. so maybe it was just something they could not pick up. because the smaller safe, we've seen the deputies rolling out in some of the b roll we've seen, it looked like that was just one they could pick up and go with and maybe they thought the money was there. or they had another safe they knew they couldn't get in, so they took what they can get. >> does that change the way we look at motive here in a sense? he as you pointed out the numbers, four minutes to commit the crime, ten minutes from the time they pull up to the time they leave. you don't think they spend another 5, 10, 20 minutes to get the safe? especially if they thought the surveillance cameras had been disabled. >> right. it was immovable. because keep in mind they did the dry run one time apparently at the house, mike, and that wasn't covered on this video
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surveillance. there was no surveillance video of that at all. richelle and i were just talking about that maybe the person who was supposed to do -- to cut off the surveillance for the real deal just said okay, we're going to practice it and went through and they did it and that's why there's no recording of the dry run there at the house. >> what do we know about the dry run? because the obvious question about that one is if you pulled oft dry run 30 days ago and if you entered the house why not just steal everything then? >> exactly. but apparently there, was -- there was something, mike, something that kept them from taking it at that time. and they were also out in the woods, apparently practicing this whole thing. a dry run in the woods. maybe it was just a short time. or maybe it was under the guise of doing some work for him. we don't know. these are just a number of different theories that no one's talking about. >> we're get i go think a little better picture, mike, of the mastermind, leonard -- of the
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alleged mastermind here, leonard gonzalez jr. also his father, leonard gonzalez sr. their relationship, the way we understand it, had been estranged, but yet they're in jail for separate crimes. they become reunited in jail. want to listen to leonard gonzalez sr.'s sister talking about her brother. pretty chilling to hear. this is, again, talking about her own brother. let's give it a listen. >> they are hateful and dangerous. they need to be removed out of society. >> there she is talking about both leonard and his son. >> a nice, loving, mentoring relationship between father and son in jail. >> yeah. how do you think this went down? do you think they -- do you think leonard sr. was the guy who gave him the idea? hey, i've been in that house, there are some valuables in there. >> it could very well be, mike. then they've got the other ne'er-do-wells to join in their raid. these aren't the brightest bulbs
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on the porch. after they did this crime, they all met up at a shopping center. what do you have at shopping centers, mike? surveillance cameras. and that's when they apparently were able to see that miss wiggins, the accessory after the fact, that's where they gave her the property from -- the proceeds from the crime, and then she went and buried the small little safe in her back yard. >> and allegedly, she's helping conceal evidence after the fact. >> allegedly. that's exactly right. >> all right, mike, thanks for the update. we'll keep following it for you. also this coming up. it's an incredible fire rescue, and it's been caught on tape. >> come on! there's a baby in there! >> told you. unbelievable video. neighbors turned heroes. they risked their lives to save a family. i'm going to talk with two of those heroes coming up. we'll take your calls as well. 1-877-tell-hln.
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amazing rescue. neighbors coming together to save a mother and her two children from a burning van. what you're about to see, again, incredible video. let's take a step back, let you relive it. let's give it a watch here. again, this is a mom with her two kids driving. we're going to see the crash here. and imagine you're a neighbor here. what do you do? what goes through your mind? who's going to be the hero? well, really everybody jumped in. spot shadowing here. we see the little girl come out first. but the little boy, little 4-year-old boy is still stuck in there. he's trapped because he's in his booster seat and he's strapped
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in with a safety belt, that booster seat. so somebody had to get in there and get him out. two off-duty firefighters, they're heroes in this story, folks. let's just be honest. john and joel recklitz. they went in. you can see the verbiage here. anyone got a knife? it's going to blow up. that gives you a picture as we're watching this. this van could have blown. let's face it. but in the end everybody's out. little guy's still recovering. suffered some pretty bad burns. but let's talk to the heroes here. john and joel. guys, thank you so much. that's john on the left, joel on the right. john, let me start with you. you guys, off-duty firefighters. you've got no protective gear. you see this unfolding. john, what's going through your mind? >> the only thing going my mind is getting this little boy out of the vehicle. there is no thought process. we're reacting to the situation that's unfolding in front of us. our training that we received in the fire department, our
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experience just teaches us to react. >> joel, same thing with you? i mean, there's no thought, hey, i could get hurt here? you guys are just reacting? >> no, there's -- you know you're going to get hurt. you know you're going to get burned, cuts, but your number one goal is to save that child's life. and that was everyone's goal there on scene that today. it was just a tremendous effort. >> joel, let's stay with you. so you guys are in now. when you get to the van, what are you experiencing? what's going on? >> just panic. you can tell in everyone's voices, you know, there's payni. everyone's in -- just uneasiness. i mean, everyone's working very, very hard. at that time john pulled back the windshield, as you see in the video, and then at that time i entered the vehicle and i saw d.j. and you can see at that time he's still -- he was okay. but everything around him is burning and he's just screaming. >> oh, wow. so you've got a screaming 4-year-old. john, i take it it's hot.
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let's be honest here. >> yes. >> but that doesn't register, huh? you guys are thinking let's rescue this kid? >> correct. correct. you know, when we first arrived, i was able to actually visually see the child, or look into the vekd. i couldn't believe how clear it was. you know, typically in our experience when there's fire there's smoke and it gets very -- our visibility is down to nothing. but in this case visibility was fantastic. and that aided in the speed of the rescue because we knew exactly where d.j. was. we knew where the straps were. even though we initially tried to pull him out and then we couldn't find the release, that's when i had to, you know -- we had to call for the knife. >> were you guys panicking at all? or were you guys pretty calm as this was unfolding? >> well, i think you can tell, there's definitely a sense of urgency there. and in our tone of voice, you know, we need a knife. i mean, when you have a 4 older
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boy screaming for his life and he's literally on fire, there is a sense of urgency, a sense of panic. but you're focused enough to know what has to be done. and again, john had the presence of mind to call for that knife and get in there. once he had it. and do the job that needed to be done. >> john, your feelings when you were able to cut that seat belt and free little d.j. >> i tell you, i cut the seat belt, and again, did i get everything that i needed? when i started really feeling relieved at that moment, even inside the vehicle, was when he -- i was able to pull him forward towards me. and then basically i rolled out of the vehicle with him in my arms. and you see me with him on the street. >> joel, your emotions as you basically saved a life here. >> yeah. and again, i mean, it's such a great story. and the best thing about it is that it's a total team effort.
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it really shows how good milwaukee is, how good the training of the fire department has given us. and just how everyone comes together to save a life. and that story doesn't have a successful ending, or happy ending, without the help of the neighbors smashing the windows and the garden hose and the person with that pocket knife. it's just a total community effort. and it's uplifting. >> so well put. we've done some stories where people stand and watch when they should help. and yet all the help you needed there. let's get a call in real quick. billy in texas would like to chime in. billy, your thoughts for our heroes here. >> caller: well, i'd like to add the same thing. you've got these two firefighters that are, you know, off duty. but you've got all of these other people from the neighborhood that are stopping. and that's what makes this whole thing worthwhile. this is america. this is how we help people. >> that's right, billy. hopefully it can inspire us all to want to jump in.
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before we let you go, guys, i want you to listen to the boy's father. you may have heard this. we just want to -- just how thankful he is for, again, neighbors, friends, and heroes like you. let's listen. >> i'm sorry. i'm a little bit -- i'm trying to hold it together. that's my little boy. i'm going to turn it over to the doctors. but i just want to thank everybody, everybody, the citizens of milwaukee for helping us. it's just wonderful -- there are angels all around us. and i'd like to thank everybody. >> guys, i want to hear from both of you. your thoughts as you hear from an emotional father like that. >> i tell you, it's heart-wrenching. being a father myself, i can only imagine what he's going through and the feelings that he's experiencing. i was so glad i did get the opportunity the following day to get up there and meet d.j.'s
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father, james, and give him a big hug. i really -- it was tremendously emotional. >> i'm sure. joel? >> it's just rewarding to see that, you know, obviously that we as a community can come together at a time like that and be recognized as a community. and the father was just so thankful. just it speaks volumes for, as our caller said, america and just how as americans we can -- we come together in times of crisis. >> joel, before we let you go, i see you've got a bandage on your right arm. >> yeah. >> what are your injuries? john, you as well. >> yeah, nothing -- for me nothing compared to what d.j.'s going through. some second, third-degree burns. i'll be back, you know, working in two or three weeks. john's the same. you know, we'll be back soon. but you know, our thoughts and prayers, please send them to d.j. and his family because he's the one that's a trooper that's going through the pain and is going to be going through the surgeries to make that full recovery. >> yeah. he's going to go through some
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recovery here. some severe burns for him, correct, guys? >> yes. >> all right. well, it's been an honor to talk to both john and joel rechlitz. thanks, guys, thanks for your story and thanks for doing the right thing. >> thank you. >> it's just a great story we can all revel in. guys, appreciate it. >> thank you so much. >> coming up a story we're not reveling in at all. it's horrifying. espn reporter erin andrews secretly videotaped in her hotel room. the video gone viral. so some creep violating her privacy and then sending it out on the video for all the world to see. how can we catch these people, and how can we get that video shut down? we'll be talking about that, taking your calls, 1-877-tell-hln.
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female sports reporter with no clothes on while she was in the privacy of her hotel room. we're talking about erin andrews, one of the best-known espn reporters. well, now some sicko has posted this naked footage all over the internet. joining me to talk about this, welcome in my colleague, jane velez-mitchell, host of "issues with jane velez-mitchell." also here to talk about it, hln law enforcement analyst mike brooks about how easy or difficult it would be to catch this person who's doing this. jane, last word we're hearing here, multiple hotel rooms over the last year. that's definitely going to help law enforcement who's trying to nail this creep. >> yeah, and there are published repor reports, which i certainly can't independently confirm, that they're focusing in on a possible espn employee because who would be able to track her from place to place, hotel room to hotel room, without knowing her schedule? and if -- and i have no idea if it is. but if it is an even employee, obviously it would be pretty easy to narrow the focus and figure out who had access to her schedule, who was with her, and
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determine a very narrow list of suspects. >> yeah, exactly. mike, as we bring you in on this one. when we first heard about a hotel and we didn't know it was multiple, you were thinking it very well may be a hotel employee who set this up. but as jane points out once you start getting into multiple rooms over the past year, it gets narrowed down real quick. >> oh, absolutely. and espn knows who goes where with erin andrews and who was at these particular hotels. and it's going to make it pretty easy probably to figure this out, mike. former investigator, this is an easy one, i'd say. >> let's get a call in. harry in california. harry, your thoughts here. harry, you're up. >> caller: yeah. hey, i've got one comment. i think this is a person that works at that hotel is the one that did it. and i think that another thing, that it was a perfect that did it, a person that's a child
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molester or something that works in that type of trade. >> the pervert part i think we can all agree on here. jane, when we talk, i just -- again, we don't we don't -- as you pointed out, we can't confirm anything as far as what they're looking into, co-worker. but the whole idea of this is just, here this is -- erin andrews, very talented sports reporter, bright promising career, and someone would go and do this. >> mike, sexism comes in many different disguises and it's as old as time. and violating, denigrating, and humiliating a female sports reporter who's working in a high testosterone world, the high-tech version of the same old sexism before baseball was invented. i have a question for mike brooks, because i'm curious about this. you can't look at the peephole and see the other side in the hotel, how did that person change it around so you could actually look through and videotape? i don't think it's possible just on the fly. >> well, you know, it actually
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is, jane, because there's some things we used to use tactically called a peephole reverser. put it up, look through it and it shows you the room at an angle. what this person -- if this is a technician or someone who works for espn, they could put it up to that lens and probably get the grainy video that we've seen on the internet. >> well, that scares the whits out of my. i go to hotels, and the possibilities of any of us being videotaped in that manner or somebody using that technology to see if a person's in a hotel so they can go in and commit a crime against them, it's very scary. >> it is. you know, usually only law enforcement that i've known have used this. but -- >> guys, we've got to take a break. we'll be watching "issues" at the top of the hour. we have an astute e-mail from someone who can keep you safe in a hotel room.
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cnn, headlines news, or msnbc are locked on your favorites? if they are i've got the gift for you. i'm gonna richardson and my next guest is ken pullson. a pleasure to have you here. >> good to be with you >> what is the museum. most people know. >> sometimes there you an a museum in articling ton, virginia called the museum. it was an effort to remind americans of the value of news
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gathering in america and a nod to the first amendment. we did so well there so we decided to take it where the action is. we have a brand new museum called a the museum on pennsylvania avenue. it's a -- it's a 45 word sign out front with the words of the first amendment 'em blazed there. we think it's healthy for them to read that says congress shall make no law. we're attempting to put it in neon. >> it is flashing? >> it's not a tribute to journalists. we had a blogger say i'm not going to set foot in that museum until they do an extra special to copy editors. it is not about you. it is a museum of history but a different kind that reports what happened over the last several centuries through the eyes of
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journalists. so you get contemporary coverage of the assassination of kennedy and arrival of the beatles and the civil war and fascinating >> exactly. what have the visitors reactions been for the first year? exciting. we see the full range of course. tremendous amount of school groups and a lot of tourists visiting washingt washingto was. we bill ourselves as the world's most interactive museum. young people can play the part of a reporter or an editor or a journalist. we can even stand up in front of what you and your business called blue screen, to tape a broadcast announcement for their friends and family and then send it out to friends at home. amazing exhibits there. i well tell you, i can say this with some degree of humility.
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i just joined the museum in february, i've been the editor of u.s. a. today for the last five years. we have the largest piece of the berlin wall in north america. you can go there and see that and the guard tower in collaboration and partnership with the f.b. i.we celebrate their 100th anniversary and we have phenomenal artifacts. we have the unibomber's cabin believe it or not. and depending on your age, some of your viewers probably remember patty hurst and her tenure with the liberation army. we have the gun she used in the bank robbery and the leather jacket she wore. we have can coverage including dillinger's death mask and the
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bullet pruf vest he zn wear on that night >> with you have so many different exhibits. what do you have planned for us your second year? >> one of the great things about working for a museum where news is in the title we're updating and reflect the headlines in the museum. not long ago when there was an uproar in iran we covered the social network and the twittering. when newspapers have collapsed and some markets we quickly reported that. upcoming exhibits include: throughout the next year you'll be able to see manhunt exhibit about the assassination of abraham lincoln and barack ob a obama. >> i'm so sorry. we've run out of time but everyone has got and go and see the museum. >> thank you very much
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