tv Nancy Grace HLN July 25, 2009 10:00pm-11:00pm EDT
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. tonight mystery surrounding the sudden death of icon michael jackson intensifies. questions mounting as to his sudden death. his half a billion dollar empire and the custody of his three children after murder charges leveled in the death of jackson, this family claiming jackson was murdered. bombshell tonight. after it is revealed police seized evidence from jackson's bedroom to make a case for homicide.
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including a bedside oxygen tank, a bag of liquid from an i.v. pole. multiple tanks of oxygen in the bedroom and garage. tonight as the secret location of jackson's body still kept on ice by his family, been uncovered. the body kept hidden, mile away, protected from would be body snatchers. the family planning to reclaim a portion of the milwaukee icon's brain. still health by the medical examiner. surrounding neighbors tonight mounting a battle to stop the jackson brother's plan for a burial theme park at neverland. it is war. this as we learn grandmother katherine strategized to challenge the will. insiders say she is being manipulated. played like a fiddle by father, joe jackson.
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now charges leveled against jackson's live-in doctor. jackson's family pointing the finger at the music icon's private doc. and tonight, as jackson took his dying breath, was he robbed of nearly $2 million? tmz reporting, this is a homicide case. the d.a. office denies it dozens of doctors probed over the death and was there a cover-up? a high-tech security system monitoring every inch of the home including jackson's private living quarters for the secret video of jackson's final moments gone. also a black leather bag full of drugs. an i.v. pole, seerngz and i.v. bags gone. a second autopsy revealing fresh needle marks in his neck. his veins riddled with track marks. skin paper white, body emaciated, drugs banned for consumers, found in the home.
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reports he wanted to be under with an i.v. drip for days on end, lying there like a living corpse. debbie rowe allegedly in negotiations for custody of the children. alternative? father joe who denies he wants the children, on stage making money. in a stunning statement, he blames 79-year-old mother katherine for all of michael's childhood beatings. as the vultures circle the dead body, including corporate giant aeg trying to sell jackson's rehearsal video for $50 million. that is right. make a buck off of the dead man's last dance, the fate of his three children unknown. >> something happened there. there were so many drugs. it was something else behind all of that. >> michael jackson's death was no accident. that is according to his father joe jackson pointed a finger at
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conrad murray last night. he didn't mention his son's doctor by name. police have said murray is not a suspect. joe jackson told cnn his son's doctor gave him something to make him sleep and he never woke up. he claimed the doctor ran after the singer died. >> i'm thinking that there is foul play. yeah, that is what i'm thinking. >> murray hasn't responded to jackson's accusation. his attorney has denied earlier reports the doctor was ever in hiding. >> katherine jackson's mom could be contesting the will. >> there is a no-contest clause in the will. stating that if you contest the will you get nothing. there is certainly an indication that she wants some guidance from the court. it appears her lawyers are possibly going to challenge the validity of the will with respect to those executors so that she could control the estate. >> michael jackson's life at the end was being controlled as manipulated. >> aeg told me two weeks ago that jackson had agreed to 32 shows.
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then agreed to do 50 shows because he "needed the money." >> michael jackson was controlling everything. he put a physician on his payroll for this concert. >> he was not a brother, a father, a child, he was michael the cash cow, the money-making machine. >> and tonight a beautiful espn sportscaster on the road checks into a well-known hotel chain, goes straight to sleep. little does she know that even though she is behind closed doors, she is being videoed. coming in and out of the shower, walking around her private room. to top it all off, she only finds out when the video of her without a stitch on surfaces on the internet, popping up on porn sites, viewed by millions. how did it happen, ladies? she was videoed through the door's peephole. sportscaster erin andrews
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fighting back. >> espn reporter erin andrews was secretly videotaped in the privacy of her own hotel room. the illegally recorded video then posted on the internet for millions to see. now, erin andrews' attorney striking back, saying he plans to seek criminal and civil charges against the people who did this. however, the culprit's identities remain unknown. just how did nude video of one of america's most popular sportscasters end up for the world to see? and police on high alert for a little 4-year-old in extreme danger. kidnapped. modesto. little landon last seen at a local bus stop. the search now desperate. the kidnapper accused of abusing another little child. tonight, where is 4-year-old landen?
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>> authorities are searching for a 4-year-old boy who they say was abducted by his own mother who only had limited visitation with him. police allege 31-year-old marissa jackson took her son landen to the park friday night after getting permission from the boy's father. that was the last time landon's father ever saw him. jackson and little landon were seen at a bus stop the following morning. officials say jackson has a previous physical child abuse allegation against her involving another child. it does not appear she faced charges for the allegations. good evening. i'm nancy grace. thank you for being with us. the mysteries surrounding the sudden death of music superstar michael jackson intensifies. >> if a doctor there couldn't bring you back, this doctor, he ran away. they had to look for him three
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days to find him. what do you think that is? to me that's foul play. >> breaking news. shocking allegations by michael jackson's father telling us just moments ago that his son was the victim of foul play and naming the people he blames for it. >> you don't take a doctor and stick him in the room and the doctor give him something to make him rest and then he don't wake up no more. something is wrong there. the doctor -- somehow -- i understand he left and went to sleep or something, i don't know what happened there. something went wrong. because when they tried to bring michael back, he was dead. something went wrong. >> joe jackson and family friend leonard rowe made a lot of allegations, again calling michael jackson's death foul play, saying he was controlled by the promoter of his upcoming concert. that promoter would be aeg. >> rowe claimed the organizers of michael jackson's upcoming london concerts aeg live may have been irresponsible by hiring a full-time personal doctor to stay with jackson around the clock. >> michael jackson was controlling everything.
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remember, he put a physician on his payroll for this concert. >> we got a statement from aeg. and it reads, in part, whether michael jackson will be doing one show or 50, the rehearsal preparation and schedule would have been exactly the same. he always had the option to change his schedule or miss a rehearsal and did, indeed, decide to miss certain days he had previously committed to. the show's schedule was based on his schedule. >> straight out to tom o'neil, senior editor, "in touch weekly." we are taking your calls live. tom, where's the body? it's been 26 days. are they going to bury the body? >> the body is at forest lawn cemetery. while they try to figure out this question, nancy. jermaine is one of the members of the family that says, look, we should turn neverland into not just graceland but disneyland, turn it into a shrine for michael and bury him there. the neighbors have banded together to form an organization called never to allow this to happen. then if they decide to bury him
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at forest lawn, you have another problem, nancy. where at forest lawn? there's a public section. there's a private section. bette davis, humphrey bogart are in the public section. that's where fans can go to michael's grave. they're worried about the body being stolen. remember, charlie chaplin's body, abraham lincoln's bodies were stolen from their graves. does that mean they have to put him in the private section where the fans can't go? the family's torn over there. >> when you say it's at forest lawn, which forest lawn? >> the one in glendale. >> how far away is that, about ten miles? >> yeah, from encino, the family compound, you mean? >> yes. >> yes, about ten miles. right next to warner brothers studios. >> how did it end up there? we thought it was in berry gordy's family crypt. >> it was at first. there were the threats of michael's body being stolen. notes being thrown over the fence. so they moved the body. >> this, while the neighborhood surrounding neverland is in an uproar. neighbors are promising a legal war.
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if the jackson brothers' plans materialize and a burial theme park is planted there. out to the lines. to maya in illinois. hi, maya. >> caller: hi, nancy. love your show. i have a -- i was wondering, i have a theory on why michael put the masks on the children. maybe it wasn't just to be odd. maybe so that the nanny could take them to public places and they wouldn't be noticed, so they could have a childhood? >> well, i mean, you kind of stick out like a sore thumb when you walk into target with an elaborate face mask on. however, it was my understanding, out to ken baker, executive news editor with e!, that he did that to hide their faces so their faces would not be publicized. >> yeah, he didn't want them to be able to -- he didn't want them to be exposed to the point where they became recognizable faces. don't forget, michael jackson was deeply scarred and intimidated by his own celebrity. and i think that he blamed his own celebrity and the attention
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he got as a child for a lot of his problems -- and he didn't want his kids to have the same problems. >> ken baker, what do you make of joe jackson announcing he never beat michael jackson? this is after jackson reveals it over and over publicly. >> well, my jaw was down to here. and i think everyone else's were. it defies the record. it defies what michael said himself.
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the star left a will drafted in 2002. it reportedly divides the singer's estate among his mother, katherine, his three children and charities, and nothing -- nothing -- to his father, joe. >> you've heard michael jackson say countless times how joe abused him. >> when katherine jackson filed prior to a will being discovered, she filed for guardianship, alone, not with joe jackson. even in the will, michael jackson made it very clear he wants katherine jackson alone.
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there have been many allegations that michael jackson himself made about being physically and mentally abused. >> we all at that time -- the belt was used to discipline. it wasn't used as an abusive weapon, okay? and my uncle and my mother disciplined us all. and then -- we were disobedient, that happened. >> they said i was too rough with the family. everybody spanked. i never beat michael in my life. >> my uncle did not abuse no one. he did not abuse me. we were disciplined. my mother whipped me with a belt but she didn't abuse me. no one in michael's family ever went to the hospital with injuries. >> i did spank the family once in a while. yes. katherine spanked them more than i did. bring it all on me. >> michael, my cousin, happened to be one of the children who didn't believe that a child should be struck with a belt or anything like that. but they wasn't abused. >> what is he talking about? michael jackson has repeatedly revealed, obviously very painfully, his abusive childhood. take a listen.
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>> there's a lot of sadness about my past life and, you know, adolescence, and my father and all of those things. it just made me very, very, very sad. >> so he would tease you, make fun of you? >> yes. >> would he -- did he ever beat you? >> yes. >> he did? >> yes. >> and that was difficult to take, getting -- >> yes. >> -- beaten and going on stage and performing? >> yes. >> and why would he beat you? >> because he -- he saw me -- he wanted me to -- i guess maybe -- i don't know if i was his golden child or whatever it was. >> that's jackson's interview with oprah winfrey back in '93 from harpo productions. obviously, lauren howard, the pain, it was still right there at the surface. a lot of people said joe jackson beat him so viciously to keep him off the streets there. where they grew up. but they moved out to hollywood when he was just a little kid. they were not living amongst
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gang members out in hollywood. >> you know, it's very interesting. you're rewriting history a little bit. michael's retelling is a rewrite and joe jackson's telling is a rewrite. it's really about how -- the effect of it, how it felt for michael. it doesn't matter whether, you know -- joe jackson, well, he hit him with a belt, it wasn't really a beating. what is clear is that there was a lot of psychological abuse that went on. we don't talk about that so much because there are no marks from it. it cuts very deeply. a kid can get over physical punishment a lot more readily than he can get over psychological punishment which there's no question that occurred. >> okay. take a listen to this. >> for me to keep talking about, saying that i beat michael -- that's not true. you know when the beating started? beating started in the slavery days when they used to beat the slaves and they used to torture them. that's where beating started, slaves masters. that's where that come from. a lot of people in america spank
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their kids. you know? if they say they don't, they're lying. they're lying. michael was never beat by me. okay. >> tom o'neill, how did joe jackson manage to work slavery into this thing? all right? how did that happen? >> he's just reaching all over the place. >> what is it, focus off me, focus back on 1860. i mean -- >> well, the ploy he tried blaming katherine the mother didn't work. we all pooh-poohed that. so now he's trying to reach back to slavery times. look, we know what michael thought of his father. you can see it in that interview with oprah there. also, you can see it in the will. he doesn't name his father at all. >> mary margaret. senior editor with radaronline.com. mary margaret, what can you tell me about why the body has been secretly kept all of this time miles away? what can you tell me about reports that the family has it on ice and they plan to reclaim a portion of jackson's brain? >> it's a twofold reason. why the body is still being put on ice at glendale at the forest
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lawn cemetery there. the first one is one we've already touched on, which were security reasons. they were really about ardent fans, body snatchers, other people, trying to take advantage of the situation. the other reason is the family simply doesn't know what to do with it. they're also waiting for reasons unknown for us for that other piece of brain which is unnecessary, but at the same time for them, a vital piece before they bury him. >> to dr. david posey, medical examiner, now with the glen-x medical examiner group. dr. posy, have you ever heard of reinserting a portion of the body, the brain specifically back into the body before it is buried? >> usually what happens, once the body -- the brain has been examined, the brain can be given back to the family. they'll actually put the container in with the body. i've never heard of it actually being put back into the body per se. but that can be done as well. it happens quite often where families want to recover the organs for their loved ones.
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she's covered football, basketball, baseball and hockey. one of america's most popular sportscasters was recently found uncovered in the privacy of her own hotel room. espn's erin andrews' attorney promising he'll file lawsuits against those responsible for surreptitiously videotaping the broadcaster in her hotel. the suspects in this crime, still out there. the five-minute video allegedly shows andrews curling her hair and ironing her pants. >> straight out to kelly zinc, host at celebtv.com, former
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sports anchor who knows erin. what happened? >> nancy, this case sickens all of us. basically we don't even know when this video was filmed. we are thinking maybe around the college world series in omaha, nebraska. erin andrews, who had no idea she was being filmed, getting ready in her hotel room. now this video is all over the web. what we have to remember is erin andrews is one of these women who travels all over the country all the time stopping in different places, covering so many different sports. so for someone to know where she was and when she would be getting ready several times, it's really suspicious. >> now, it's my understanding -- out to sandra golden, reporter with comcast sports southeast, sandra has been a sportscaster reporter for 16 years. she's a veteran. you've been in the same position many, many times. and what we're hearing is some freak, some perv, is looking through the peephole.
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in fact, apparently -- and i have not seen the video. you've got to go to a porn site if you want to see it. and they shut it down. then it pops up somewhere else. millions of people have seen it now, most likely. she goes up to the peephole and looks at it like most of us do to see if it is working in hotel rooms. the next thing we know, she's walking back and forth, fixing her hair in front of the mirror, doing all sorts of things, buck naked, no idea there's a perv at the door. what do you think? >> i'm horribly disgusted. i haven't seen it either. nancy, the more and more i'm hearing about it and i don't know whether this fish is growing or not, but i'm hearing it was from an adjoined room in the hotel room and that it was actually a peephole, there was a camera set in it. so whoever was doing this knew she was coming. and it's very easy to figure it all out. we knew that erin andrews has covered the college world series, if it was in fact in omaha, nebraska. they knew she was coming. you can go on the internet right now.
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june 13th through the 23rd. erin andrews covers it. whatever hotel. go to omaha, nebraska, you can find out the media hotel with about this much effort. so whoever wanted to get it had preparation. whoever worked at that hotel knew where she was staying. i bet you dollars to doughnuts erin already knows exactly who this was. >> sandra, you said you believed or have learned it may not be through the peephole. what did you say was the device used? >> i heard it wasn't -- like, you know, the door hole, like originally i had heard -- again, i had not seen the video at all. i heard it was originally through the peephole in the door. i thought, how in the world can somebody get this video that actually scans up and down, it doesn't make sense? so later on today, i was reading on the internet and god knows if that's true or not, but they were saying it was an adjoining room. so somebody knew exactly what room erin was going to and they knew where -- when she was going to be there and they knew to drill this hole in the wall and put this scan in there. it's creepy. somebody went to a lot of effort to get this.
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>> so, ladies, you're behind a locked door at a hotel, at a reputable hotel chain, and this can happen. i want to go out to jon mark, owner of spy tec inc. sells video surveillance equipment. jon mark, i understand you've got some props on the set. explain how this can happen with her not seeing it. >> well, if it was through the peephole, fortunately or unfortunately, there is a device called a peephole reversal. reverser. you can put it over the peephole and see into a room. it's sold sometimes to law enforcement and to process servicers to see if indeed there is somebody in the apartment. it's very difficult to hold a camera up to it. >> whoa, whoa, wait a minute. jon mark, owner of spy tec inc. hold on. there are legal alarm bells going off in my head right now. burris, don't go off on a tangent, please stick -- just
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keep it in the middle of the road, burris. but in a room where law enforcement doesn't have a right to be with a warrant, how in the heck, let me say, can they use a peephole reverser? that doesn't sound constitutional. burris! >> absolutely not. i mean, i'm shocked by hearing something like this. >> of course you're shocked, i knew that. >> without a warrant? >> how can that happen? >> well, it should not happen. you got to have exigent circumstances of some kind to justify that kind of activity and even that doesn't make any sense. you have to have some kind of warrant from the court that allows for you to do it. it's very much like wiretapping. therefore, you have to have some kind of discussion -- >> okay. >> or order from the court. >> that's the ticket, warrant. agree, disagree, gino brogdon? >> it's so invasive, it would take courts scrutiny to allow that to happen. because if you're able to do that, you're able to put tape recorders in the room. >> got it.
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>> and furthermore. >> amulsh, very quickly to you. i doubt very seriously whoever was taping and videoing erin andrews, the sportscaster, without her clothes on, doubt they had a warrant. so what kind of crime are they looking at? >> they're look at felony invasion of privacy. i looked at the laws in connecticut where she worked and georgia where she lived. all these states make it a felony to do what this person did. they're going to be have an extremely difficult time to figure out who did it. >> out to stake supirro. what do you believe happened? he's joining us, co-host, 790, the zone. what do you think? you're seeing video from espn right now. >> yeah, well. i've seen the video and i probably speak for a lot of guys in a lot of offices who said this is creepy, but then you all stand around, check out the video because somebody had access to it. it's a criminal act going on. if you look at the video, it looks like some kind of telescopic lens. it's scanning up and down. she absolutely didn't know she was being filmed.
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she's absolutely, you know, in the room, naked, walking around, and somebody is filming her. so, you know -- it's one step -- watching it is one step i guess close to -- like you're watching a snuff film because you know there's a criminal and a crime that's taking place. you just sit there and watch it. and somebody's going to get prosecuted. and i can tell you this. if law enforcement wants to find out, this is not a tough case to crack. they will figure out who this is through the drywall of the hotel room. with a telescopic lens. somebody is going to figure out who this is. >> you said it actually scans up and down? >> yes. everything i've read about it, it's a telescopic lens that moves around a little bit. which means somebody had access to move it around. that's why they believe it didn't go through necessarily a keyhole or peephole but was probably in a adjoining room. >> got it. thanks for being with us. i want to go back to jon mark, owner of spy tec inc. who sells video surveillance equipment. i cut you off earlier when you mentioned a peephole reverser. now that you're hearing the way
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the video looks, that it actually moves up and down, her body, does that suggest to you the mode of surveillance? >> the mode of surveillance to me, therefore, kind of represents that it is possible that somebody was next door. it doesn't have to be a telephoto or telescopic-type lens. it was just a camera that was able to be manipulated slightly. what i heard was it went up and down, it kind of scanned her torso unfortunately, and the hole doesn't need to really be too big for -- >> do you have one of those with you on set? >> yeah, we have -- >> let me see. >> -- a number of them. >> let me see what you've got. >> okay. >> what's the smallest one you've got, john? >> if you look at the lens on this, i don't know if you -- >> hey, i need one of those to watch the nanny. >> right. >> i like it. keep going. >> there are other things to watch the nanny. >> believe me, i've got it. the whole place is covered in nanny-cams. go ahead. >> right. so you understand.
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this is a very high resolution, video recorder. has a 60 gigabyte hard drive in it. the camera gets attached to it. whoever did it could actually watch on the dvr, digital video recorder, what was going on. >> okay, that adds to the freak level, that they're actually watching it while it's happening. out to special guest perry aftab, internet privacy and security lawyer, wiredsafety.org. perry, thank you for being with us. >> appreciate it. >> in a nutshell. remember, we're just a bunch of lawyers, perry. how can you track down somebody that puts this on the internet? >> well, i'm more than just a lawyer, i run the world's largest internet safety group. >> perry, i said we're just lawyers. you're the expert, so please repeat in a nutshell, how can you track down this person? >> well, when it was posted online if we can track back the first post, those sites collect the ip information. that's like the cyber bread crumbs that will help you lead
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back to the computer that was used to post it. although you can hide who you are, most of the time people don't. with a subpoena from law enforcement or a private subpoena from lawyers, we can demand that dailymotion or youtube or any of the other sites that have it provide the ip address of the people who posted it first. then you go back to the device. sometimes they'll collect back information which is the computer that's used itself. that will lead you to the old-fashioned proof. tie it to whoever's posted it online. might have done it at the time using a wireless access from the hotel. and you're going to get a lot more information. will help you figure out who on the ground was doing what they were doing.
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espn reporter erin andrews was secretly videotaped in the privacy of her own hotel room. the illegally recorded video then posted on the internet for millions to see. now, erin andrews' attorney, striking back, saying he plans to seek criminal and civil charges against the people who did this. however, the culprits' identities remain unknown. just how did nude video of one of america's most popular sportscasters end up for the world to see? >> how are you doing, miss andrews? >> good, how are you? >> good. how's the chin? >> the chin's good. looks pretty good, doesn't it? >> looks pretty good. >> only after a couple of days, too. >> oh, wow.
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>> not even much makeup on it, huh? >> it's looking all right. >> your dodgers, i was at the dodgers game. >> that's right. luckily it wasn't manny ramirez or somebody. >> i don't know if manny would have hit it that hard, huh? >> who his harder than manny, huh? >> i don't know. it wasn't the dodgers. they just didn't do a very good job fielding it, right? >> ah, i guess so. >> -- offered me his catching gear after this happened. yeah. >> that's very nice. >> exactly. >> well, she's a good sport. you're seeing tmz.com video. andrews was bopped by a ball at shea stadium. there she is, making light of it. i want to go back to stake shapiro, morning show co-host 790, the zone. now, you've seen the video. you say it scans her torso up and down. the video's about five minutes, right? >> yeah, we got through about 90 seconds of it. we're doing our morning show and wanted to see, you know -- a, we wanted to see what people were
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talking about and, b, like a lot of offices, as i said, around the country, especially a lot of men, they want to see the erin andrews video. it doesn't move around that much. it clearly, as you watch it, the first thing that comes into your mind, like i said, you are watching a crime taking place. that on the other side of that camera, there is a sick person that is filming a celebrity that has no idea she's being filmed. that at some point, this was released. you can't get it on the internet. like, where we found it, people started sending it to each other. once that happened over the weekend that means millions of people have this thing saved in their e-mails or whatever it is. so it is creepy. it is eerie. it is absolutely going to be, you would figure somebody's going to be paying the ultimate price. to say her attorney is on top of it would be an understatement. >> to detective lieutenant steve rogers, former member of the joint terrorism task force, now in nutley, new jersey. detective lieutenant, thank you for being with us. question. we know this is being downloaded and downloaded and downloaded. how hard is it going to be to find the perp? >> oh, i don't think it will be very hard. nancy, the police are going to
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interview everyone that's close to her, including hotel employees. then as far as the electronic footprints, as the prior guest said, the police will actually be led back to the original party who posted that on the internet. >> sandra golden, reporter with comcast sports southeast, she's been a reporter, believe it or not, 16 years now, sandra, he just mentioned hotel employees. what do you think, sandra, about the possibility this was an inside job? that it wasn't someone following her around the country, that it was someone within that hotel? >> well, it just makes perfect sense to me. i guarantee you, erin saw the hotel -- saw the video, said, wait a minute, i remember that. let's just say -- let's go along with the theory it was omaha, nebraska. the omaha, nebraska, hotel had that guest and media list probably four weeks out. so joe smith who works at that hotel says to his buddy, ooh, guess who's staying here, erin andrews, the sideline reporter, the super model, she's fantastic.
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guess what, and then wheels go into motion. you want to talk about prep time? i know that generally speaking when we travel, we know weeks ahead when we are going and arriving and listen, we are all trying to save a buck, so we book hotels way out. i would say absolutely it's an inside job. i guarantee you erin has seen it and said, know what hotel, i know what room i was in, called x, y and z. >> to kelly zinc, host of celebtv.com. former sports anchor, herself, she knows miss andrews. what is her reaction? >> i mean, erin -- she's not allowed to speak. her lawyer's speaking for her. i can only imagine how disgusted she is. erin andrews may be supermodel beautiful but she's well respected. "playboy" voted her the sexiest sportscaster two years in a row. but she's not posing in "playboy." she's not in "maxim." she's not one of these women who does these shoots. she's very well respected. and she's pretty conservative. i'm sure nothing is making her angrier or more upset or disgusted but this is not going to ruin her reputation. she's built a great reputation up until this point. >> and she really knows her
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stuff. out to the lines. ellen, kentucky, hi, ellen. >> caller: hi, nancy. >> hi, dear. what's your question? >> caller: you do a great job. >> bless you. >> caller: isn't the hotel somewhat responsible for the safety of their patrons? i can't imagine somebody standing in the hallway outside her door -- >> oh, listen, ellen, you are so right on. because once there's a criminal case, believe me, there's going to be a big fat civil lawsuit. i can only hope she brings it. what about it, burris? >> absolutely. i think the hotel, if you find out what hotel it was and they allowed this to take place, willingly or not, negligently or not, they're going to be held responsible, along with the people engaged in it. i see a huge civil case on her behalf. >> sherry in illinois, hi, sherry. >> caller: nancy, thanks for taking my call again. >> thank you for calling. what's your question, dear? >> caller: quick question for you. don't all these high-class hotels, don't they have cameras out in the hallways so even if
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somebody were to go into the adjoining room, isn't there surveillance in hotels? >> that's a really good point. jon mark, owner of spy tec inc., all the really nice hotels haveo have video surveillance. you remember o.j. simpson at the casino breaking in the room. every stitch of him was caught on surveillance. then the hotels where people stay on the road trying to save money, they have security cameras for safety reasons. >> well, a lot of the hotels that i deal with and consult for are wonderful upscale hotels, they have terrific directives of security that are on top of things like this. there are many, many cameras in these hotels. >> so the big issue is, once she sees the video and identified which hotel and date, have they
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