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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com this is "prime news." i'm mike galanos. we have shocking developments unfolding right now in the michael jackson case. number one, drug addict. federal agents actually use the word addict to describe michael jackson in the search warrant, served at dr. con ray murray's clinic and homes. could that ratchet up any charges. and michael jackson's personal chef said she saw dr. murray come downstairs with oxygen tanks in the morning. a lot to get to. as always, we love taking your phone calls, 1-877-tell-hln. joining me now to talk about this, we welcome back kim, senior editor for in touch weekly. and reporter from pop squire.com. and joining us, ann bremner, criminal defense attorney, former prosecutor. she also sat in on michael jackson's xhild molestation trial as well. ann, let's start with you. we've got the term addict being used in the search warrants. isn't that more trouble for dr.

murray when the inference is, you're enabling a drug addict. >> he's got trouble ahead and trouble behind, mike. you talk about overprescribing, prescribing to a drug addict and potentially manslaughter. and this is not only potentially criminal, of course, but also implicates his license at a minimum. we all knew back at the time i was at the jackson trial, to a certain extent with "headline news" and cnn, but i as a layperson/lawyer could see it at the trial. and his doctor certainly should have known. in fact, was part of that equation, according to the feds and the state authorities. >> ann, from your experience, through the years with michael jackson, could any doctor plead ignorance on michael jackson? >> you know what? ignorance is no defense when you're dealing with someone like michael jackson and his addiction, giving all the anecdotal information, but all the medical information, 19 aliases. what was uncovered in the 100 search warrants back at the neverland raid in '03 before the trial that i witnessed. >> we're talking about years here. >> right. >> let's bring in russell on

this one. authorities looking into -- as ann just mentioned, 19 aliases. we understand a cd was taken from dr. murray's office with the name omar arnold, one of those aliases. doesn't that further link him here? he had to know omar arnold, michael jackson, one and the same? >> that's right. these 19 aliases are fascinating. they are people of different genders, races just on their face. this is clearly an operation that involved numerous people. to say you didn't know you were part of that plot, it just seems ridiculous. >> kim, we've kind of touched on it. what aliases do we know? we know omar arnold, that's one. his own son, right? >> yeah, his own son, which i think is interesting. and then, of course, larry king did interview the private chef last night and apparently her name was one of the aliases he was using. she said she didn't even know that until recently. you have a wide array of names of people he knew. some of his employees.

some of them were just sort of random names. and again, prescribed not just by one doctor. it could be up to seven or eight doctors. that's why they issued all of these different subpoenas and looking how many doctors were in on this, and how many doctors knew he was an addict and prescribing these drugs. >> obviously dr. conrad murray, dr. arnold klein, dermatologist, five others in there that we haven't reported on as of yet. ann, when we talk about, let's go back to your point here, of years of drug abuse, prescription drug addiction for michael jackson, is that going to be a defense for dr. murray? hey, i was just on the scene the last few months. >> that's an interesting point you raise. in some ways it makes it more serious he was facing that he was prescribing to addict and potentially guilty of manslaughter. but it also could be a defense. he was an addict. i just dealt with one part of his life, the anesthesia. but to say there's a whole cocktail, that's what people have been describing, that michael jackson had potentially in his system. and that might be somebody else, not me. murray would say.

>> russell, that's his only hope is when this toxicology report comes out and we find the cause of death, he's got to be hoping for a cocktail as the cause, and not the main cause being propofol, or diprivan, right? >> i think that's right. and i think that's why exactly ed chernoff, who's dr. murray's lawyer, says to wait and hold off on judging until the toxicology report comes out. he's said this on numerous occasions. it's got to be because they're hoping that that report will show there were numerous drugs. remember, certain drugs linger longer. some stay longer. and some stay shorter in the system. that evidence is going to be really important in building a defense for dr. murray. >> kim, what are you hearing now, the toxicology report delayed indefinitely? what's going on here? >> yeah, this is a big deal. we were expecting it this week, possibly today. then pushed to next week. now they're saying indefinitely. which means it could be weeks and weeks. because they are trying to do due diligence. they want to make sure they have all the facts. it seems like there's more questions than lels. seems like these searches shus

answer questions, but instead they're bringing them to other doctors, other issues they want to investigate. they want to do this right. it's so high profile. everyone's watching this so closely, they want to make sure they have all the information before they make charges here. >> pam's with us in nebraska. pam, your thoughts? >> caller: yes. my question is, if his family was so concerned about these children, why in the world did they leave these children with him? if it was a common joe like you or me, alleged addict, they take the children and then they make the person go through like drug court, or rehab, and then they finish the rehab, and then hey have to go on and stay sober for so long before they give the children back. >> pam, that's a great point. let's go to ann on that one. as much as any of us here, you've had in-depth knowledge of michael jackson, inner workings of the family. good point there. because we've heard from family members saying they've tried

interventions. they knew he was having some trouble. and they also knew, obviously, the kids were in the midst of this. >> absolutely. your caller raises a great point. the fact of the matter is, they say they tried, and were turned away by jackson or through his security detail. the fact of the matter is, when you have children in harm's way, there has to be some intervention. gloria allred got involved at some point, luckily they're okay physically right now. but if indeed he was an addict as we've heard throughout many different sources and throughout many decades, maybe since 1984, those kids were at risk. >> yeah. and we're not saying he was an incapable father. we do not know the inner workings of the relationship with the kids. for his own sake, and obviously it would have been great if there would have been an intervention that did some good. we wouldn't have had this tragic ending. >> back when they did the raid in '03, there could have been grounds for charges back then. hindsight is 20/20. maybe he could have been safd.

>> sad to say. coming up we'll hit on a couple other topics. reports that michael jackson wasn't even in his own bed when he died. he was in a bed assigned to dr. murray. we'll talk about that, take your calls, 1-877-tell-hln.

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>> caller: it reverses the reaction of these drugs that he was on. now, i don't understand, he should have have that on hand. >> a couple great points there from denny. russell, here's the way i understand as far as cpr on the bed. the explanation i've heard was michael jackson only weighed about 110 pounds. so dr. murray was strong enough to hold him with one hand and do cpr like so. that's the explanation i've heard. >> that's the same explanation i've gotten. these are great questions. >> they really are. >> a lot of questions need to be asked of dr. murray. at first we saw his lawyers coming out and defending him in the media. but they've remained silent very recently. as this investigation continues, we can expect them to continue to remain silent, especially as charges of manslaughter loom large. >> and narcan something we've not heard at this point. the callers are making great points here today. here's another report, tmds quoting law enforcement sources saying michael jackson was not in his own bed, but in i guess a bedroom assigned to dr. mur rif.

kim, do we know anything about dr. murray's routine at that house? >> well, we do know, according to a few reports, including this interview that larry king did with the chef, that the doctor used to come at night, stay overnight with michael, and the chef said come down in the morning and get juices for michael. that seemed to be the routine. that goes in with all the reports are saying, all the rumors that he would come overnight, possibly give michael propofol so he could go to sleep and leave in the morning. this does sort of all play in. as every report comes out, as we talked to people who were there, like this chef, that's what everyone is saying. and apparently this the report was you have from tmz saying oxygen tanks, and i.v. stands were found in his bedroom. >> let me interrupt you. we've been talking about kai chase, the personal physician. this is kai chase talking about what she saw with dr. murray in the mornings. let's give that lacen. >> larry: did you notice oxygen tanks?

because if it was dep ri van and they had to measure blood pressure, they also needed oxygen tanks, if you're giving that drug. >> mm-hmm. >> larry: did you notice them? >> i saw the oxygen tanks, yes. >> larry: where were they? >> i would see dr. murray carrying the oxygen tanks down in the mornings. >> larry: that morning, or other mornings? >> no, i didn't see him that morning. i saw him in the afternoon. but other mornings. >> larry: he would carry them down? portable oxygen? >> yes. >> ann, that just screams diprivan use. and she said plural, mornings, like that was the ritual. >> right. the only morning that he apparently didn't carry them down is the morning michael jackson died, or we believe what he said it was in the afternoon. but yeah, the fact is, the monitoring device would have been him for michael jackson, because he didn't have the other kind of equipment, ekg, et cetera. so the routine kind of will tell us, or the lack of routine on the day of offense could lead to a more solid manslaughter charges against him, either first degree or second degree. >> guys, we'll take a quick break. much more on the michael jackson

story coming up. a different angle in a little bit talking about the custody. we thought a deal was done. hearing coming up on monday. we want to know, is it just going to be runner stamed or will a judge mix in there as well, and maybe even set up a priority, a list of, if katherine can't take care of the kids, then who's next? call in, 1-877-tell-hln.

welcome back. a major announcement coming from police who are desperately trying to find little robert man wil. he vanished a week ago today. just hours ago police revealed new evidence in their search, and it doesn't sound good. take a listen. >> the evidence we've uncovered shows that there are suspicious circumstances regarding robert's appearance. he may be injured or the victim of a tragic event. >> sounds so ominous. yesterday we told you about robert man wil's mom on

probation for smacking robert's 9-year-old brother so hard it fractured his skull. last night cops searched mom's apartment, car. take your calls, 1-877-tell-hln. let's welcome back michelle, correspondent for "america's most wanted," following this. let's pick up on the quotes from law enforcement. that he may be injured. a victim of a tragic event. what have they found that might tell us that? >> what investigators may have found is some sort of trace of blood, or dna left behind. not so much just regular dna. i'm talking evidence of some sort of struggle, or maybe some sort of accident that could have possibly occurred. and again, this is just speculation. this is not something that's come from investigators. the only reason why they may come forward and say there has been a tragedy, because of what they did find last night, and also what they may have found inside of her car. we're just kind of waiting at this point to see what it all uncovered. >> lay out that search for us. melissa scott jenkins, that's his mom. dad has custody, but he was

visiting mom, mom's family. >> that's right. >> what did they search? house, car? lay it out for us. >> absolutely. around 8:00 last night, investigators went into mom's home, and they started going through things until after midnight. and then evidently around 12:30 in the morning, that's when the car could be seen towed away from the scene. and so they'll probably process the car at this point, taking out physical evidence from inside of the house. but again, this is also -- i mean, that's the last known address that we knew that robert was at. so they could just be making sure that every single stone is not left unturned at this point. because that's all that they have to go on. especially with these extensive grid searches. >> you and i talked about it yesterday, the checkered path of the mom and mom's boyfriend. mom hit her 9-year-old son, fractured his skull, lost custody of him, we believe. her boyfriend, daniel erlick,

battery, drugs. he cannot be alone with her 2 1/2-year-old daughter fathered by another man. how relevant are investigators saying all that is? >> what investigators have told me, on numerous occasions, is that no one is considered a suspect, no one is considered a person of interest. yes, there is a past criminal history. but that is not into play right now. with the search efforts moving forward with robert, and that robert's mom and her boyfriend and robert's father, and aunts and uncles and everyone have been connelling into town, into boise, and are out there today, and out there yesterday, and for the past week searching for robert. everyone is cooperating across the board. so that's actually good news. >> was mom, or mom's boyfriend at today's press conference? when we heard those ominous quotes? >> i'm not too sure if mom and her boyfriend were at the press conference today. what was interesting is they were supposed to hold that press conference 2 1/2 hours later than what they did, and they

moved it up. we thought there would be a little bit more information given. of course, they just released the -- i think what they wanted to do and the reason they did that was because to give a little bit more information to folks searching, that you know what, we may be looking for signs of a tragedy here. in addition to robert. >> people came out in droves today. >> they did. oh, my goodness, it was amazing. by 9:00 a.m., they had 1,200 volunteers registered signing up. i was also on the phone with one of the family members, this was probably around 10:00 a.m. eastern, and they were like, look, there's still two foot lengths worth of people waiting to sign up and register. and more people throughout businesses, they were encouraged to close down and also come up, and employees come up to look for robert. >> our thoughts and prayers with the family. >> oh, absolutely. >> it's great to see that kind of outpouring. >> it is good. >> i know you're going to continue to follow it. thanks again. >> thank you, mike.

welcome back to "prime news" on hln. we're going to follow up on the so-called white house beer summit. the meeting over a glass of beer betweenment obama, vice president joe biden, professor henry louis gates jr. and sergeant james crowley, who had arrested him. what are we hearing? it was a frank conversation. there was no tension. what's a good thing, they're setting up a second meeting. what do you think of this? have we learned something? is this an example for the nation? we'll take your calls on this on our "what matters" segment, 1-877-tell-hln. we like to hear from you on this as well, michael jackson, we know the custody dispute is over. we believe it's official. now a judge is going to decide

in finality on monday if jackson's mom, katherine, will get sole custody of little prince, paris and blanket. ex-wife debbie rowe said to get visitation. will the judge rubber stamp this? welcome back kim from in touch weekly. and ann bremner, sat in on michael jackson's child molestation trial. we'll take your phone calls, 1-877-tell-hln. all right. ann, do you see the judge rubber stamping this or tweaks that could be made come monday? >> i see the judge rubber stamping it. there's been so much out there about what's going to happen. it's been such a complicated issue potentially. they'll be able to work it out. we favor settlement in the laws 98% federally and 95% in state courts settle. it looks to be fair. >> it's a good thing for the kids. this wasn't protracted. it wasn't nasty.

out in the media. it seemed it was katherine, debbie rowe and the attorneys getting involved there. here's something, i'll throw this to russell. katherine jackson, although everyone loves the decision of her, she is 79. and if she becomes sick, can't take care of the three kids, is there -- is this something that a judge will decide now on monday this should be the succession of who might jump in? >> the judge won't address that on monday. but this is something people should be considering. let's hope that debbie rowe and katherine jackson have started to consider this. given katherine's age, it could happen that these kids see the death of another guardian during their childhood. and that could be a very sad situation. so i hope the jackson family is preparing for what could happen next. >> ann, let me get you to weigh in on that. katherine jackson looks good, we hope she lives a long, healthy life, take care of the kitsds. but is now the time where you want to put in rebbie jackson could be next, or janet, or diana ross, that's what michael

jackson wanted in the will. >> absolutely. just do it all right now. we've heard about rebbie and janet. we don't hear diana ross saying she wants to step in, but she will if she's needed. why not get it all settled right now, up front, and move on. >> yes. it sure seems -- >> i don't think that's necessarily a good idea, sorry to interrupt, michael. i think because these kids are in such limbo, and there will be a psychologist involved, i think it makes sense to take a little time, see who the kids respond to well and how the kids are adjusting and then decide. an immediate decision might not be the best decision. >> we talked about that yesterday as far as debbie rowe's visitation, that a child psychologist has to get in on both sides. debbie rowe to interact with these kids on a regular basis, and the kids to interact with her so close to the death of her father. i'm sure the qualified people are going to jump in on this. one other thing i want to hit on, guys. the judge will decide on crucial estate matters. we know katherine jackson has talked about it. ann, maybe you can clarify this

for us, that she wants to be a third co-executor, along with john branca and john mclean. does she have a case? >> there's a no-contest clause in the will. if she challenges the will, that's what she's doing by making this potential case, she could be out of anything in the will. so she's got to be really careful about that. the fact is, she wants to know more information. it's something that could be worked out. what i was saying on the kids is, have people down the line potentially, because we've got, you know, a mother that's 79. but she's a guardian of the kids. she is not the executor of the will. she's not there for the business affairs of michael jackson. those two things are very separate. >> so is wanting to be a third executor, is that in a sense contesting? >> it is. it potentially is. she's got to be very, very careful. she does deserve to know certain things, but the fact is, he decided who he wanted to be the executor of his will. and it wasn't his mother. >> yeah. russell, real quick, and then we'll take a break and get kim in on the other side here. if you were to have three executors, do they have to agree

on everything? could katherine butt heads and stop some decisions from being made? do we know how that might play out? >> the way that would play out, she could likely be a tiebre tiebreaker. that doesn't seem to be likely the case that's going to happen here. >> you're right. branca, john mclean, both seem to be good business minds. when we come back, we'll talk about the worth of michael jackson's estate. we'll get kim in on the conversation as we talk about it being worth upwards of $2 billion. that's not surprising, especially if there's a vault of unreleased music. that would sell like hot cakes. we'll take your calls on all that, 1-877-tell-hln.

welcome back to "prime news" on hln. continuing our conversation on michael jackson, we talked about the custody of the kids, a judge, they're going to have a hearing on monday. the experts are saying the deal is done. katherine jackson, michael's mom, gets sole custody. debbie rowe, the biological mom, we're told the kids will have visitation rights. sandy is with us in west virginia. sandy, go ahead. >> caller: yes. i'd like to know who determines what's in the best interest of a child? is it the people who have never even laid eyes on these children to know who these children bond with? because the grandparents' love is a lot stronger for their grandchildren than it is for their own children. >> ann, number one, you've got

michael jackson's wishes were to have katherine. now you've got a deal saying katherine is, she's going to be the sole guardian. debbie rowe will get visitation. it sounds like it's worked out with the kids' best interests at heart. >> people say that debbie rowe couldn't pick them out of a lineup, but that isn't true. a biological parent has certain rights. debbie rowe's rights, the grandmother's rights, and they made an agreement. they struck an agreement. and they're going to have a psychologist involved as well to help with this transition. >> right. that's all good there. guys, let's talk about the estate. possible worth. i believe it was katherine jackson's attorney basically saying $2 billion. kim serrapin, in touch weekly, if there is a vault of unreleased music, that could be -- >> we kept hearing $500 million, $500 million. but $2 million does seem like a lot. but if you consider how his

music has been selling just over the past month, and these are songs everyone knows and has heard of before, they said it could be going back to his motown days, that could be great music. some of them might need a little work. some of them might be ready to be released. we haven't talked about the beatles album. we don't know where michael will be buried yet. there's extra money to come in there. the film that they're going to make from this rehearsal footage. there's a ton of money to be made. not even talking about what he already has sitting there, like those unreleased songs. >> you hit the rehearsal footage. lay it out for us, kim. what are we talking about here? how much footage do they have of those final rehearsals of michael jackson over the last weeks, months? >> they have a lot. enough to make a film out of it. people will be widely anticipating this film. look at that little minute snippet that keep playing, that we've been playing for the past two weeks. it's garnered a lot of interest.

he looks great. i think just the curiosity factor, even if you weren't going to go see his concert, even if you weren't a big fan, just to see what he was like in the weeks leading up to his death. was he ready to do it, did he really want to do these 50 performances. tur yos ti about this, this is his last final performance. enormous interest. >> if they make this a movie, it would be number one at the box office with the interest in the story and to see in full the final rehearsals of michael jackson. yeah, $2 billion might be correct here. guys, thanks again. ann, russell, kim, always like talking to you guys. coming up, the so-called white house beer summit. what did we learn from it? there's the picture. president obama, vice president biden, professor gates, sergeant crowley, they get together. frank conversation. two men are going to get together again. has it been a good thing for this to unfold before the nation's eyes. we want to hear from you. the number, 1-877-tell-hln. and right now we'd like to

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when the president invited a few people over for a beer, and gained so much attention. that's what happened yesterday at the white house. president obama hosted harvard professor henry louis gates, the officer also who had arrested him earlier this month, sergeant james crowley. vice president biden in as well. the president called the meeting a friendly conversation. we'll let richelle carey pick it up from there, "prime news" correspondent, taking a closer look at that in the "what matters" segment. >> the president said he wanted to calm the racial issues since professor gates was arrested on july 16th. of course, you remember gates was arrested after a neighbor calling 911 about a possible break-in at his home. yesterday there were no apologies, but everyone seemed to agree to move forward. gates and crowley are already actually planning another meeting. >> i would like not only to discuss, but i'd also like to listen to professor gates' perspective. certainly he has the credentials to enlighten me a little bit. and i think perhaps the professor as he sfresed to me

has a willingness to listen to my perspective as a police officer. >> and professor gates says he thinks he and sergeant crowley to use this opportunity to foster greater sympathy among the american public for the dailey perils of policing and the genuine fears of racial profiling on the other. so what does this meeting mean for race relations in this country. joining me to talk about this, roland martin, cnn analyst, and boyd watkins, founder of your black world.com. gentlemen, thank you for joining us. roland, i'm going to go to you. was this just a photo-op? >> look, i think the predominant focus of this meeting was indeed a photo-op. but look, i think what we can take away from this is we have to learn to have dialog when it comes to issues of race in this country. i remember when i was a student at texas a&m university, as a freshman, there was a white gentleman who just -- we happened to run into each other in our dormitories. we began to talk. he began to share his

apprehension about african-americans based on an incident when he was a kid when a black kid stole his ball and took it home. for ten years he was walking around not liking black people because of this incident. we can talk about racial assumptio assumptions, we began to learn without that dialog, it never happens. that's where we have problems in this country when it comes to race. we're afraid to have the honest and frank dialog. >> a nerve was touched, boyd, because this question came up at a primetime presidential news conference. not only that, the president felt compelled to answer it. what does that say about where we are in race relations in this country? >> i think that it says the obvious, that our country is racially sick. racism really is a disease that affects the very fabric of every institution in america. what's really more complex about racism, richelle, is that racism itself is not really the enemy. really, the enemy is racial inequality, which is created

through 400 years of perpetually keeping one group of field in an underclass of society. people who don't wake up and say, how am i going to oppress a black person today, just by very virtue of the fact that they continue to strengthen and apply the norms of institutions that have been historically racist and imbalanced, you're contributing to the problem as well. you can almost think of it like dumping toxic waste into a lake. you can stop dumping, but that doesn't mean the lake is going to clean itself up. you must be as deliberate and affirmative in cleaning the lake as polluting the lake in the first place. right now our so sigh it is like that polluted lake. >> understand where we are. for instance, if you ask whites, what are their favorite television shows, and you ask african-americans what are their favorite television shows, a whole different perspective. the reality is, we do have different worlds. it is not that somehow we're just separate countries, but the

reality is there are likes and dislikes. the point is not whites are right, blacks are wrong, blacks are right, whites are wrong. that we do see things differently. i simply learned to appreciate that as an african-american, i might see something different than a white a white person. the issue comes in when you begin to apply stereotypes and wrong perceptions to a situation. in the case of crowley and gates there is no doubt that gates being an african-american man seeing a white cop, you likely had preconceived notions and a history that played into how he responded. crowley, the same way. and so we have to recognize that. but only through dialogue and conversation can we come to the conclusion as to, ah, now i see why you responded that way and now that's where the learning opportunity comes in. if you don't talk about it and explain it in this raw true form, then you'll never be able to understand it. >> boyce, has there been anything, though, about this dialogue? roland is saying we need to step back and maybe not jump to conclusions so that we can get

to the next level. has there been anything about this dialogue that has made you uneasy that you've seen in the past few days? >> yeah. what bothered me tst dialogue was not what happened in this particular case. what bothered me were the reactions that people had. many people reacted to this case without knowing all the facts. and so i'm getting all these e-mails in my box saying oh, boyce, you're becoming an uncle tom because you're not jumping on our side here -- >> that's harsh. >> well, you know, it happens. a hustler's dream is a hater's nightmare, that's what i always say. so effectively that's going to happen. but the reality, though, is a lot of people were reacting based on preconceived notions of race and preconceived perceptions of police officers that may or may not be true. most people who hate police officers don't really know much about what police officers have to do, what they -- >> boyce, i'm going to have to wrap you there. but hold on, we're going to continue on the other side of the break. just as the temperature of this gates-crowley thing was cooling down, that nasty e-mail from a boston police officer surfaces. more on the other side of the break.

a michael jackson search warrant shocker. the feds actually using the word "drug addict." and now michael jackson's chef talking about oxygen tanks carted out in the morning. and then this jaw dropper. reports coming in that michael jackson wasn't even in his own bed the day he died. lots to get to here. love to take your phone calls. here's the number. 1-877-tell-hln. you can e-mail us, cnn.com/primenews or text message us your thoughts. all you have to do is start your message with the word "prime." comes right to us. hlntv. that's where you have to go. it's the key to unlock you being heard. >> controversy, opinion, your

point of view. this is "prime news." >> welcome once again. this is "prime news." i'm mike galanos. we have shocking developments unfolding right now in the michael jackson case. number one, drug addict. federal agents actually used the word "addict" to describe michael jackson in the search warrant served at dr. conrad murray's clinics and home. could that ratchet up any charges? and new clues for michael jackson's personal chef. she says she saw dr. murray come downstairs with oxygen tanks in the morning. a lot to get to. as always, we love taking your phone calls. 1-877-tell-hln is the number. joining me now to talk about this, we welcome back kim serafin, senior editor for "in touch weekly." also with us, russell wettenson, entertainment analyst, legal analyst from popsquire.com. and also joining us, anne bremner, defense attorney, former prosecutor, and she also sat in on michael jackson's child molestation trial as well. anne, let's start with you. we've got the term "addict" being used in these search

warrants. isn't that more trouble for dr. murray when the inference is here you're enabling a drug addict? >> he's got trouble ahead and trouble behind, mike. you talk about overprescribing, prescribing to a drug addict, and potentially manslaughter. and this is not only potentially criminal, of course, but it also implicates his license at a minimum. so we all knew back at the time i was at the jackson trial and with to a certain extent "headline news" and also cnn, but i as a layperson slash lawyer could see it at the trial. and his doctor certainly should have known. in fact was part of that equation according to the feds and the state authorities. >> anne, from your experience through the years with michael jackson, could any doctor plead ignorance on michael jackson? >> you know what? ignorance is no defense when you're dealing with someone like michael jackson and his addiction given all the anecdotal information. but all the medical information. 19 aliases. and what was uncovered in the 100 search warrants back at the neverland raid in '03 before the trial that i witnessed. >> we're talking about years

here. let's bring in russell on this one. russell, also authorities looking into, as anne just mentioned, some 19 aliases. we're also understanding a cd was taken from dr. murray's office with the name omar arnold, one of those aliases. doesn't that further link him here? that he had to know. omar arnold, michael jackson, that's one and the same. >> that's right. these 19 aliases are fascinating. they are people of different genders, races just on their face. so this was clearly an operation that involved numerous people. and to say you didn't know you were part of that plot, it just seems -- it seems ridiculous. >> kim, we've kind of touched on it. what aliases do we know? we know omar arnold. that's one. his own son, right? >> yeah. his own son, which i think is interesting. and then of course larry king did interview the private chef last night and apparently her name was one of the aliases he was using. she didn't even know that, she said, till recently. so you just had a wide array of different names of people he

knew, of some of his employees. some of them were just sort of random names. and again, prescribed not just by one doctor. could be up to seven or eight doctors. and that's why they've issued all of these different opinions and are now looking into how many doctors were in on this and how many doctors knew he was an addict and were prescribing these drugs. >> from what we know, it's obviously dr. conrad murray. dr. arnold klein, his dermatologist, five others in there that we haven't reported on as of yet. anne, when we talk about -- and let's go back to your point here -- of years of drug abuse, prescription drug addiction for michael jackson, is that going to be a defense for dr. murray? hey, i was just in the scene the last few months. >> and that's really an interesting point you raised because in some ways it makes it far more serious what he was facing that he was prescribing to ab addict and potentially guilty of manslaughter. but it can also be a defense, which is he was an addict. i just dealt with one part of his life, the anesthesia, if that's what it was. but to say there's a whole cocktail, and that's what people have been describing, that michael jackson potentially had in his system, and that might be somebody else, not me, murray

would say. >> and russell, that's his only hope-s when this toxicology report comes out we find the cause of death. he's got to be hoping for a cocktail as the cause and not the main cause being propofol or diprivan, right? >> i think that's right. and i think that's why exactly ed chernoff, who's dr. murray's lawyer, keeps telling us to wait and hold off on judging until the toxicology report comes out. he's said this on numerous occasions and it's got to be because they're hoping that that report will be there were numerous drugs because remember sfrn drugs linger longer some stay longer and some stay shorter in the system. that evidence is going to be re important in building a defense for dr. murray. >> real quick, kim, what are you hearing now, the toxicology report delayed indefinitely? what's going on here? >> yeah, this is a big deal. we were expecting it this week, possibly today then pushed till next week, and now they're saying indefinitely, which means it could be weeks and weeks because they are trying to do due diligence. they want to make sure they have all the facts that they're investigating, all these doctors, and it seems like there's more questions now than less. it seems like these searches

should have answered questions, but instead they're bringing them to other doctors, to other issues, to other things they want to investigate. and they want to do this right. it's so high-profile, everyone is watching this so closely, they want to make sure they have all the evidence, all the details, all the information before they make any charges. >> let's get a call in. pam's with us from nebraska. hey, pam, your thoughts? >> caller: yes. my question is if this family was so concerned about these children why in the world did they leave these children with him? if it was a common joe like you or me, alleged addict, they take the children and then they make the person go through like drug court or rehab and then they finish the rehab and then they have to go on and stay sober for so long before they give the children back. now -- >> pam, that's a great point. let's go anne on that one. as much as anyone here, you've had in-depth knowledge of michael jackson, inner workings of the family. good point there. because we've heard from family

members saying they've tried interventions. they knew he was having some trouble. and they also knew obviously the kids were in the middle of this. >> absolutely. the caller raises a good point. they say they tried and they say they were turned away by jackson or through his security detail. but the fact of the matter is when you have children in harm's way there has to be some intervention. i believe gloria allred got involved with respect to other children, not michael's children. but luckily they're okay at least physically right now. but if indeed he was an addict as we've heard through many different sources and throughout many decades, maybe since 1984, those kids were at risk. >> and we're not saying he was an incapable father. we do not know his inner workings of his relationships with the kids. by all accounts it was a good one. but for his own sake, obviously it would have been great if there was an intervention that did some good and we wouldn't have had this tragedy. >> one other thing is when they did the raids in '03 there could have been grounds for charges

back then. hindsight's 20-20, but maybe he could have been saved. >> sad to say now. take a quick break. coming up we're going to hit orrin a couple other topics. reports michael jackson wasn't even in his own bed when he died. he was in a bed assigned to dr. murray. we'll talk about that, take your calls, 1-877-tell-hln.

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reaction of these drugs that he was on. now, i don't understand. he should have that on hand. >> a couple great points there from denny. russell, here's the way i understand as far as cpr on the bed. the explanation i've heard was that michael jackson only weighed about 110 pounds, so dr. murray was strong enough to hold him with one hand and do cpr like so. that's the explanation i've heard. you've got anything different on that? >> that's the explanation i've gotten. these are great questions. >> they really are. >> a lot of questions need to be asked of dr. murray, and at first we saw his lawyers coming out and really defending him in the media but they've remained silent very recently. so as this investigation continues we can expect him to continue to remain silent especially charges of manslaughter loom large. >> and narcan not something we've heard before. call in, you guys are make something great points here today. tmz quoting law enforcement sources saying michael jackson was not in his own bed but i guess in a bedroom assigned to dr. murray.

kim serafin, "in touch weekly," do we know anything about dr. murray's routine at that house? >> well, we do know according to a few reports including this interview that larry king did with the chef that the doctor used to come at night, stay overnight with michael and then as the chef said would come down in the morning, get juices for michael, and that seemed to be the routine, which kind of goes in with what all the reports are saying, all the rumors, that he would come overnight, possibly give michael propofol so he could go to sleep, and then leave in the morning. so this does sort of all play in. and again, as every report comes out, as we talk to people who were there like this chef, that's what everyone was saying. and apparently, the report that you have from tmz was saying that oxygen tanks and iv stands, iv bags were found in his bedroom. >> let me interrupt you because we've been talking about kai chase, the personal physician. we've got a clip of that. this is kai chase talking about what she saw with dr. murray in the mornings.

let's give a listen. >> did you notice oxygen tanks? because if it was dip rin and they have to measure blood pressure they also need oxygen tanks if you're giving that drug. >> mm-hmm. >> did you notice them? >> i saw the oxygen tanks, yes. >> where were they? >> i would see dr. murray carrying down the oxygen tanks in the mornings. >> on that morning or other mornings? >> no, i didn't see him that morning. i saw him in the afternoon. but other mornings. >> he would carry them down, portable oxygen? >> yes. >> all right, anne, that just screams diprivan use. and she said plural, mornings, like that was the ritual. >> right. and the only morning that he apparently didn't carry them down was the morning mike the jackson died. or if we believe what he said, it's the afternoon. the fact is the monitoring device would have been him for michael jackson because he didn't have the other kind of equipment, ekgs, et cetera. sought routine kind of will tell us that the lack of routine on the day of death could lead to a more solid manslaughter charge against him. either first degree or second degree. it's very, very serious. >> guys, we'll take a quick break. much more on the michael jackson

story. coming up we're going to hit a different angle in a little bit, talking about the custody. we thought a deal's done, hearing coming up on monday. we just wanted to know is it going to be rubber stamped or will a judge mix in there as well and maybe even set up a priority, a list of if katherine can't take care of the kids then who's next? call in. 1-877-tell-hln.

welcome back. a major announcement coming from police, who are desperately trying to find little robert manwill. the 8-year-old is from boise, idaho. vanished a week ago today. just hours ago police revealed new evidence in their search. and it doesn't sound good. take a listen. >> the evidence we've uncovered shows that there are suspicious circumstances regarding robert's disappearance. robert may indeed be injured or the victim of a tragic event. >> it sounds so ominous. then yesterday we told you about robert manwill's mom, on

probation for smacking robert's 9-year-old brother so hard it fractured his skull. last night cops searched mom's apartment, took away boxes, even towed a car. going to hit all that. take your calls, 1-877-tell-hln. let's welcome back michelle sigona, correspondent for "america's most wanted." has been following this. all right, michelle, let's pick up on the quotes from law enforcement that he might be injured, the victim of a tragic event. what have they found that tells us that? >> what investigators may have found is some sort of trace of blood or dna left behind. not so much just regular dna, i'm talking evidence of some sort of struggle or maybe some sort of accident that could have possibly occurred. and again, this is just speculation. this is not something that's come from investigators. the only reason why they may come forward and say there has been a tragedy, because of what they did find last night and also what they may have found inside of her car. we're just waiting at this point to see what it all uncovers. >> lay out that search for us. they went melissa scott jenkins, that's the mom, that's who he was -- dad has custody, but he

was visiting mom, mom's family. >> right. >> what'd they search? house? car? lay it out for us. >> absolutely. around 8:00 last night investigators went into mom's home, and they started going through things until after midnight. and then evidently around 12:30 in the morning that's when the car could be seen towed away from the scene. so they're probably processing the car at this point, taking out physical evidence from inside of the house. but again, this is also -- i mean, that's the last known address that we knew that robert was at. they could just be making sure that every single stone is not left unturned at this point because that's all they have to go on, especially with these extensive grid searches. >> you and i talked about it yesterday, the disturbing details of a checkered past of both his mom and mom's boyfriend. i'll get everybody up to speed real quick. mom hit her 9-year-old skull, fractured his skull, lost custody of him, believe. her boyfriend, his name's daniel ehrlich, he spent time in jail for burglary, battery, drugs,

and he can't be alone with the mom, melissa jenkins' 2 1/2-year-old daughter, fathered by another man. so with all that said, michelle, how relevant are investigators saying all that is? >> what investigators have told me on numerous occasions is no one is considered a suspect, no one is considered a person of interest. yes, there is a past criminal history, but that is not into play right now with the search efforts moving forward with robert and that robert's mom and her boyfriend and robert's father and aunts and uncles and everyone has been coming into town, into boise, and were out there today and were out there yesterday and have been out there for the last week searching for robert. what investigators have said is that everyone is cooperating across the board. so that's actually good news. >> now, was mom or mom's boyfriend at today's press conference where we heard those ominous quotes? >> i'm not too sure if mom and her boyfriend were at the press conference today. it's actually something, what was interesting was they were supposed to hold that press