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breaking news. the death report on the king of pop is complete. also new today, we're just getting in reports that michael jackson was finally laid to rest. so will fans get their chance to pay their respects? plus, jackson's estate could bring in nearly $100 million in deals after his death. plans for a movie, tv specials, trading cards, but the tons, you name it. but in court today, jackson's mother objects. we want to know why. also this, police say a woman tried to hire a hit man to kill her husband. they'd only been married six months. and investigators believe money was the motive. so who's the hero? who tipped off cops and saved
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this guy's life? you're a huge part of the show. we love hearing from you. call in on any topic. the number, 1-877-tell-hln. e-mail us or text us. start your message with the word "prime." it's your chance to be heard. welcome once again. this is "prime news." i'm mike galanos. lots to get to. let's get right after it here. breaking, urgent developments in the michael jackson case. entertainment tonight is reporting the king of pop was finally buried in secret. we'll get to that. his resting place, forest lawn cemetery in hollywood. and this just in today. the los angeles county coroner's office has completed its report on jackson's death. so when are we going to find out what killed him? we'll take your calls, 1-877-tell hln is the number. joining us to talk about it, russell weston, attorney, also with us, steve rogers, detective lieutenant, nutley new jersey police department.
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also, former member of the joint terrorism task force. anita kay is with us, criminal defense attorney, former prosecutor. and also joining us, ted rowlands, he's been covering this since day one on our sister network, cnn. ted, right to you on this one. we've got big news on the coroner report, complete. so what does that mean? take us from there. >> yeah, we've been hearing this, that the coroner was basically finished about two weeks ago and they've been waiting, delaying this sort of unveiling of the report and finally today the coroner came out with a statement saying, we're all done, but we've been told to hold it indefinitely by the lapd. so the coroner's office is saying now for the first time, we're completely done with the investigation into jackson's death, the toxicology, et cetera, but we cannot release it because we have been told to extend the security hold, which was placed on this. bottom line, police want more time to investigate before moving forward, and i am sure that they will unveil everything at the appropriate time, most likely in the next few weeks,
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but the coroner now is basically saying, stop calling for updates on when we are going to release this. we are done, you're right, but we can't tell you what happened. >> and your time line, what we're reading here is a few weeks until we find out time of death. is that right? >> that's right. until the detectives and obviously the d.a., they're talking, until they figure out where they're going with this case, they would rather that the coroner does not release this information to the public, and the coroner is going along with this request. so they're saying, we're done, but we're not releasing this until the lapd gives us the green light. >> all right. let's bring in steve rogers, former member of joint terrorism task force. steve, what's your read on this? why do you hold it? what's going on behind the scenes? >> coroner may have found something that they didn't expect and by releasing this information, it may hinder the police investigation. it's prudent to just wait until the police give the green light. >> okay. are you seeing criminal charges given here, steve? is that a reason to hold it? >> absolutely. they're going down the criminal
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charge road and i believe we'll see that soon. >> okay. anita, your read on this? same thing? you agree? >> absolutely. not surprising that they wouldn't release it, because there could be something in there that's going to lead them to someone else. as well as, the d.a. may want to look at everything before they decide to file charges or not file charges, so they don't want the autopsy released. >> okay. a few topics to hit on. let's get to the next topic. michael jackson buried, officially, forest lawn mortuary park in hollywood hills. russell, do we know when he was buried? obviously done in secret. what details do we know? >> there's not a lot of details we know about this, but a lot of people are breathing a sigh of relief that he has been buried. the question is, will fans be able to visit, and that's an open question. a lot of people may be disappointed to know that he won't be buried at either neverland ranch here or if they transfer it in las vegas.
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>> okay. has there been talk -- or how much talk has there been and how realistic of a graceland-like place for michael jackson, and the first place you think of would be neverland. >> that's right, there's been a lot of talk about this since the beginning of this whole event, because neverland has always been the focus of michael jackson and where he lived, up until, of course, the big trial and molestation. a lot of people have talked about whether there would be transfer. there have been reports that it would be transferred physically to las vegas. if each person who viewed that michael jackson tribute on tv, the memorial, came to visit, it would be one of the biggest spectacles we have ever seen in las vegas. >> and you're seeiaying vegas wd be the spot? >> that's right. las vegas, michael jackson had spent some time there, rebbie jackson was there. they would physically relocate everything on the neverland ranch and recreate it. >> all right. anita kay is our attorney.
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how much legal wrangling would there be before michael jackson would be moved and you would have some kind of graceland-lake place for him in las vegas, as russell is suggesting? >> well, obviously, the family wants that done. they would have a right to be able to move him. but then when we look at what could happen in las vegas. and i think this has talked a little bit about neverland, is what type of problem could this create? i mean, graceland first caused a problem because it was in a neighborhood. so logistically, you would have to get building permits, you would have to get permits from the county in las vegas, if it's clark county, to set up this type of event, this type of, basically, an attraction for people to come and see. >> yeah, ongoing attraction. all right, guys. we'll take a quick break. when we come back, we'll take a look at some of the business deals that are in the works that could increase the value of michael jackson's estate by millions. we're talking about a movie deal, bringing his final rehearsals to the big screen. that and other topics are on the way, and we'll take your calls, 1-877-tell-hln.
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welcome back to "prime news" on hln. continuing to keep you updated on developments in the michael jackson case. we know the coroner's report is complete, but they're not going to release cause of death, at least for a few weeks. we also know he was buried in hollywood hills. and the third item i want to talk about is business deals. it could increase the value of michael jackson's estate by millions. want to bring back russell wetanson. who knows how much money we're talking about here, but lay out what deals are on the table that we know of. >> that's right, today's court hearing, the money is starting to flow from the michael jackson estate, but not without a lot of judicial oversight. so today on the table we had a movie deal with columbia
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pictures to release footage from the rehearsal, of the upcoming -- or no longer tour of michael jackson. then we had merchandising deals, which involve agreements between aeg live and bravado to deal other events not associated with the tour. then -- >> go ahead. >> sure. and then there was a lot of talk about the aeg agreement, the overall agreement and the confidentiality of it. and the attorneys, there was a lot of sparring over how confidential that should remain and the exceptions to that confidentiality provision. >> so the aeg agreement is standing in the way of these business deals, is that what you're saying? >> no, they're a little bit different from each other. it's a separate issue. >> okay. and what -- there's one other item i know that jermaine jackson's rendition of the song "smile" at michael jackson's memorial, that could go to itunes. is that right? and that would bring in tons of money as well. >> that's right. that wasn't a part of today's
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discussion. the major things from today was the court approved -- the court had already approved the deal with columbia pictures on friday, but they revisited it today to make sure that katherine jackson's attorneys and katherine jackson did not object to that. the major argument today was over the merchandising deal. >> okay. let's get a call in. linda's with us in oregon. go ahead. >> caller: hi, mike. thanks for taking my call. >> yeah. >> caller: i think they've probably known for a very long time, the coroner's office, what, you know, what the results are. and i think they're just waiting for -- they don't want to make any mistakes, the police don't want to make any mistakes, they want all the dots and the ts crossed and i just think they're just waiting to get all the evidence gathered and then they'll probably make an arrest. >> i think you're right on with that, linda. let's bring back steve rogers, a former member of the fbi joint task force. steve, i think our caller's right on with that. there's no need to rush. certainly, we have questions, we want information, but you've got to get it right, especially if you're -- and how would it go down? would we hear reports, find out cause of death, and bang, you've
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got an arrest right after that? >> it won't go that quickly, but as the caller stated, every "t" that as to be crossed and every "i" has to be dotted. but once everything's in place, you will see an arrest. >> anita, as you look at this from a lawyer's standpoint, you've got to be methodical. there's a thirst for information from us, the public, we want to know answers, but you can't rush this. >> exactly. especially because it is so public. it's why we all want to know, but in cases that aren't this public, usually the autopsy report, you don't see it until the case is actually filed. it's just, in this case, we all want to know what's going on. for example, we could speculate and say maybe there were other drugs found in his system that may lead to new search warrants for other doctors or for other people. and if they release that autopsy report, now we're all privy to this information that the police need to investigate and want to do that secretly. they don't want to tip their hand to anyone.
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>> exactly. and these other doctors that are out there, they're tipped off too. guys, thanks so much. anita, steve, russell, we appreciate it. more coming up, this story is such a shocker, a newlywed accused of trying to have her new husband killed, hired a hit man, unknowingly was an undercover cop. coming up, we'll update you on -- we'll try to find out why and also hear from the husband.
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welcome back. not much of a marriage for these newlyweds. police in boyton beach, florida, say the wife hired a hit man to murder her husband. what she didn't know was that the hit man was an undercover cop. police say they were able to pull off an elaborate sting, tricking her into thinking her plot worked, and that her husband was actually dead. they caught her reaction on tape. the tears, the works, check it out.
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>> yeah right! i don't know how cops kept a straight face. and we talked to an officer last week said there wasn't one tear drop, just the verbal sobbing. richelle, how did cops pull this off? >> they're professionals, i'm telling you, mike. they really are. let me give you some background. police think the motive here was money. specifically, a $243,000 town house. dahlia dip lito was only married
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for six months before she wanted her husband dead. when she went to hire a hit man, they had an undercover officer ready to play the part. dalia allegedly told the officer she was sure, sure she wanted to carry out this hit. the price they worked out, $3,000 plus $1,200 for the purchase of a gun. police say she had an alibi and that she gave out photos of her husband, his schedule, the layout of their apartment. they say that they staged a murder scene at the home and when she got there, that's what you're looking at there, they told her the news that her husband was dead. and her reaction, you saw that reaction, mike, that it was the sobbing. and by the way, "prime news" just obtained a michael dippolito's divorce petition today. >> yeah, not too soon for him. richelle, thank you for that. joining me to talk about it, dr. tara fields is with us, marriage and family therapist. we could go an hour with her alone on this one. also with us, josh friedman,
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jason brody, attorneys for the husband in the case, and joining us by phone, andrew mara with palm beach post. andrew, first question still is why. do we know motive yet, andrew? >> the motive, like she was saying a minute ago, appears to be money. that's at least what his attorneys are alleging, that she had done this all to obtain his condo. and the day before, she had met with the -- what she thought was a hit man, she convinced him to transfer the deed to the condo into solely her name, so that obviously -- whether he passed away or not, it would be her condo. >> all right. so we've got money, what about another guy. would she cheating on michael? >> that's what his attorneys seem to think. they say the can confidential informant who tipped off the cops was a close male friend of hers. they seem to think the relationship was romantic. they don't know for sure, but that's certainly an intriguing twist. >> yeah. let's bring in michael
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dippolito's attorneys. so you're saying the person she's cheating with is the one who saved michael's life, basically? >> we're not saying that. we just know it was a male informant. whether or not there was a relationship, that's to be determined. the most important thing, whoever this informant is is the one who saved michael's life and michael's grateful to that person. >> yeah. the tip-off to the cops like that. you mentioned, michael, he was on the "today" show with jason and josh here. he was talking about, you know, obviously one of the questions, what about your relationship? what was it like? he talked about the relationship, and basically never saw it coming. let's listen. >> we hit it off, me and my wife actually got along so well, we were together 24/7. i was told, as she was walking out the door, she was going to bring starbucks coffee home. so it was a pretty normal scene. nothing at all -- nothing ever
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would have made me think what would could have happened. never. >> let's bring in dr. tara fields. tara, how could that happen -- as he's explaining it, they hit it off, they were together 24/7, how could he not know? >> yeah, well, i think we hear these kind of stories, i know we hear these stories in the news all the time and in my office, where somebody says, i never saw this coming, either i had no clues that my wife was an alcoholic or my spouse was having an affair. and often when we're in love, we choose not to see what we see or know what we know, because we don't want to really accept the reality that maybe this person doesn't love me and dangling all my money and my town house in front of her maybe was the reason that she married me. >> gotcha. i want to bring back his attorneys, jason, josh, guys, last week when i heard him interviewed, it sounded like he was kind of thinking, you know, maybe there were some signs. did he tell you what signs he was talking about? what things he might have missed that are kind of adding up now?
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>> without going into what he actually told us, what we can tell you is there were no signs to suspect that she would try to have him killed. that's something that no one ever thinks and no one ever looks for and he certainly didn't see any reason or any suspicions to think that his wife might try to kill him. >> did he talk about -- i strange. things were strange or not, he didn't see any signs that his wife would actually try to kill him. >> yeah, right. okay, a quick break. when we come back, we'll hear more from michael dippolito. your wife is going to starbucks and all of a sudden cops are at your door saying your wife wants you dead. 8
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welcome back. a couple topics that are going to have you talking. miley cyrus, disney star, teen sensation. well, we're going to be talking about this one. teen choice awards, she's dancing, basically, before a stripper pole in a pair of short shorts, daisy dukes, she's 16 and a lot of young girls emulate her. there she is. i'm scratching my head over this one, how this could happen. 1-877-tell-hln is the number. also this topic, "jon & kate plus 8," the mom, opening up, kate gosselin, opening up to the media about her divorce, and that she still wears her ring so that the kids don't get upset.
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kate gosselin, worrying about the kids, but they're still on a reality show. we take your calls, 1-877-tell-hln. we're taking your calls on this topic as well, a wild story. newlywed hiring a hit man to bump off her husband of six months. thankfully, was an undercover cop, husband, michael dippolito is okay. let's go to the phones. kurt is with us. >> caller: hey. a question about that. is that normal for a police -- i'm not questioning the police department, but is that normal for them to stage the death or -- i would have thought they would have enough evidence that they wouldn't have to do that, where something could go wrong and then they might be held liable or something. see what i'm saying? >> yeah. we asked last week. i want to get back to our reporter, andrew mayer is with us. how are police responding to that? you look at it on a layman's level, they've got all the evidence they need.
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look at this reaction. >> it was an unusual move, some would say a theatrical move, but the police say this is going to present evidence when they eventually go to trial and go to a jury. they say this will speak to her character, speak to her personality, showing her dual reactions when she's reportedly render a verdict. 5,000% sure i want my husband done. another call here. vanessa in nevada. go ahead. >> caller: my question is, is the husband, since they're married, is the husband ever going to be on the hook for her legal bills. is he going to have to pay for her defense since they're married for her trying to kill him? >> how about that for a twist. she's allegedly trying to kill
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the guy, i don't think he's going to have to cop up any money to defend her, right, guys? >> the answer to that question, you know, is as follows. when we file the petition for disillusion of marriage, that would be the cutoff date for determining marital liabilities and marital assets. if there was any debts incurred during the marriage before the petition was filed, and if that happened, we would ask for an unequal distribution of the marital state and the marital liabilities. >> just to follow up real quick, mike. >> real quick, go ahead. >> on the previous caller, michael dippolito came out this morning on the "today" show, you've been showing the clips, and he is very thankful to the police, both the boyton beach police department and he said as much this morning. >> yeah. they did a tremendous job, as the caller pointed out. thanks again, guys. we appreciate it. we'll keep following it for you. when we get the motive, we'll let you know as to why someone would do this. hard to figure. all right, here's an idea. i want to know what you think about this one. turn in your guns, you get a gift card to target. that's the deal in fresno,
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california. cops there say this year violent crime went up nearly 10%, 9.4%. so they decided it was time for the city's first ever gun buyback program. police collected 447 guns in less than three hours saturday, ran out of the cards. okay, great people can get some money for the old guns, but is it really going to be the great solver of crime there? here's what police are saying. >> these are firearms that are being used on the streets of fresno to do drive-by shootings. they're in the hands of the wrong people. >> it doesn't matter whether you're getting gang bangers in here or not, you're getting guns off the street. >> guns off the street, they have a point. the people who you don't want having guns, are they the ones, though, that are really turning them in the for the gift card? joining us to talk about it, welcome back, steve rogers, joint terrorism task force. also, detective lieutenant with the nutley, new jersey, police department. and joining us by phone, chief jerry dyer with the fresno
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police department. first off, chief, did you expect that kind of turnout? you've got people lining up, what, like three hours early, you ran out of gift cards. you expect that? >> yeah, we really didn't know what to expect, quite honestly. we hadn't done this before. i know other agencies had across the nation, but we were overwhelmed in terms of what the interest was for people to turn in firearms, and we were also surprised at the types of firearms being turned in. we had some -- two machine guns that were turned in, five sawed off shotguns, some sks assault rifles, and really a significant amount of handguns. but it's those assault rifles, machine guns, those types of weapons that are generally used by gang members and those are the ones we wanted to get off the street. >> that's good. i want to quote the mayor, and get your take on it. this is the mayor saying, i think our community is sending the message that they're tired of these guns being in the wrong hands. and i think people look at this and say, are the people with guns that are going to -- or the
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folks that turned in these guns, are they really the ones -- the wrong hands here, are the real hardened criminals the ones turning them in for gift cards, keef? >> i think two things. the people turning in guns, some of those individuals are law-abiding citizens. unfortunately, gang members get more guns we can remove street. did have a certain number guns. a crime in our city. >> let's bring in steve rogers. steve, your take on this program? >> the chief's point is well taken regarding burglaries and stealing guns, but the odds are against them. the national academy of sciences
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clearly concluded, after recent studies, that the program just doesn't work. it does not have significant impact on the crime rate. but go to it, chief, i hope it works out for you in fresno. >> yeah, we're hoping for the best. i want to hear from you. call in 1-877-tell-hln. i want to know your thoughts on this program. and also this, miley cyrus at the teen choice awards, dancing on a pole. she is 16! you're going to be astonished when you see the photos. again, 16 years old, disney star. call in, 1-877-tell-hln.
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with welcome back to "prime news" on hln. i want to hear from you. fresno, california, had a spike in violent crime, so here was the program they instituted. offered, basically, a gift card to target if you turn in your gun. $50 for a rifle, $100 for a handgun, $200 for assault weapons. they took in 447 guns in three hours and ran out of gift cards. we have chief jerry dyer is with us from the fresno police department. let's get to the phones. gary is with us in tennessee. your question here? >> caller: yes, i'm a coin and gun collector and i have a license to do so. and i was just wondering, i saw some of the guns that they're showing here now on your program, and some of those guns are -- looked like expensive, collector guns and, like i said,
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i have a license to do so, and i'm wondering if those guns are being chopped up with a cutting torch or dumped in the stove. >> what are they doing with the guns? what are you doing with them? >> a number of things. number one, we're checking to see which guns are stolen. we know a certain number of those will be stolen, try to get those back to the rightful owner. secondly, we're running ballistic tests on those guns to see if they've been used in previous shootings. third, if there is a gun out there that has some significant historical value, and we do know that there are a few that we collected that do, then we'll probably be doing something to render them safe and work out some type of an agreement with the museum, such as the museum we have in fresno, getting those firearms to them. >> it's really interesting. tina in our facebook page wanted to answer that question you just answered, can you trace them back to crimes. sounds like you're using ballistics to do that.
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tom's with us in north carolina. how you doing? >> caller: good. enjoy your show. 30 years military, fought right. get done. >> all right. tom, a big fan there. chief, as you guys divide this plan, what was the biggest pitfall or was there a negative that you were really concerned about? >> i think the biggest concern was, are these really the guns that might be used in crimes? and what we're going to do with some of those guns that had historical value, and we've addressed those concerns, and quite honestly, in fresno, you know, folks have been very, very supportive of the program and the outcome.
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>> yeah. because when you first -- on first glance, you look at this, it's like, okay, number one, let's face it, people can get a gift card, use a gun that might be laying around and get some money. but, chief, is it just your thought, if you can save one person, if there's one gun that could be a dangerous gun or in the wrong hands, as you guys like to use the term, if you can get it off the street, it's all worth it. >> you're absolutely right. if we can prevent one violent crime, one homicide from occurring as a result of this program, it's paid for itself. and we will never know the crime that did not occur as a result of this effort. >> where are you guys getting the money? what, 20 -- you gave in gift cards, what, $35,000, $20,000 from donations, is that right? >> yeah, we had $20,000 of private moneys that were committed either through the crimestoppers or my chief's foundation. and we also had -- well, that ultimately ended up being $20,000 that had been donated. and then an additional moneys, $15,000 from our asset
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forfeiture. those were money that were seized from drug dealers that we're now using to buy the gift cards to buy the guns. >> okay. wel well, we wish you the best on this. i'm sure you guys were so concerned, you see a spike in violent crime, almost 10%, kr f you've got to do something. coming up, miley cyrus, let's face it, she's a role model out there, hannah montana. well, she's appearing on the teen choice awards, and there she is. she's 16 and she's straddling a pole. what do you think of that? call in, 1-877-tell-hln.
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welcome back. happening right now, this is in santa clara, california, bay area, near san francisco, we've got live pictures. imagine this, a roller coaster,
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rescues under way right now. this is at the california's great america theme park in santa clara. there you see, fire department using cherry pickers to get people out of there. what we have, 32 people stuck midair on this roller coaster called invertigo. they are dangling there. there are no injuries, but they are dangling there, 50 stories up. in the back of your mind, you're hoping it never happens. roller coaster stuck, midair, thankfully, nobody hurt. but quite a scare for these people. 32 people up 50 feet in the air. we'll keep you posted. looks like things are going well as they get those folks off that ride. wow. now this. miley cyrus, she's a huge role model to a lot of young girls out there. she's dancing with a pole. are you kidding me? she's 16. in a pair of short shorts. this is going to be on the teen choice awards. take a look for yourself. judge what you're seeing here.
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i want to hear from you on this one. this is part of this -- a new song she's debuting. it's called "party in the usa." there she goes, straddling the pole, not much there, a pair of short shorts, daisy dukes. i'm stunned, i know she's growing up, but do we go from hannah montana to miley on a pole like that at the drop of the hat. joining us to talk about this one, welcome back, russell wetanson, popsquire.com. also with us, stacy kaiser, psychotherapist. you know the question to her, what are they thinking? and also with us, janell snowden, correspondent, vh1. janell, let me start with you, she's 16 years old! i know she's growing up, but like that? >> definitely going for shock value, but she's miley cyrus and
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this is what she has done. you have to remember that britney is a disney star, so is kris tina aguilera. i think there comes a time when all of them want to assert their independence and say to us, hey, i'm no longer 16, i'm no longer a little girl, but i don't know that the teen choice award is the most appropriate place to do that, given all the impressionable young kids that were watching. >> who's watching the teen choice awards, 10, 12, 14-year-old girls who idolize this young lady. not the place to unveil your new sexual self. do that in front of the adults, don't you think? >> yeah, it's definitely an odd choice of a place. even britney spears waited to sort of do a little stripper routine until she was 19 on the mtv video music awards. now, what's interesting, i just checked twitter a little bit before we went on air and miley compliment.
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compliment given last night's performance. >> not at all. and russell, i'll stay with you on that one, that's shocking right there, she wants to be the next to pull her life together and all that. but her life was a train wreck. is that what miley cyrus, that's where she's heading? russell, i'll start with you on that. >> well, let's also -- >> let's hope not. >> of course britney spears is a huge success and a big recording star, but of course we all know about the personal issues. let's hope miley cyrus isn't going down that road. remember, though, last year we had the "vanity fair" pictures. >> yeah. >> there's been a lot of stuff leaking out over time. and we have to see -- when i first heard about this, i thought, okay, let's try to defend this, maybe it's a little bit innocent. but the truth is until she was doing a psa for the fire department there wasn't much innocent about that performance. >> no, not at all. stacy kaiser, i asked the question. let me ask you again, what's she thinking here? what's going on? >> i mean, i don't know that this is her that's doing the thinking. she's a teenager. so to me this is about her parents, this is about her
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handlers, her publicist, her agent, and they're clearly given the green light because this looks like a choreographed stunt to me in trying to get her to look more like an adult instead of the young "hannah montana" that we all looked up to. >> i just can't -- can't there be a gradual maturing process? we have to go right to the daisy dukes here? janell, let's hit on that. billy ray cyrus, i read a report that said he was a part of this. is that true? >> well, she said in many articles and in many interviews that she's done her fathers is a major guiding force in her life. but i think that this is miley's way of saying i'm here and i adult performer and not just to assert herself in that way, exactly how they fall in line as to where they should be in their lives given what they're seeing from her. >> call in on this. 1-877-tell-hln.
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cnn, headlines news, or msnbc are locked on your favorites? if they are i've got the gift for you. i'm gonna richardson and my next guest is ken pullson. a pleasure to have you here. >> good to be with you >> what is the museum. most people know. >> sometimes there you an a museum in articling ton, virginia called the museum. it was an effort to remind americans of the value of news
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gathering in america and a nod to the first amendment. we did so well there so we decided to take it where the action is. we have a brand new museum called a the museum on pennsylvania avenue. it's a -- it's a 45 word sign out front with the words of the first amendment 'em blazed there. we think it's healthy for them to read that says congress shall make no law. we're attempting to put it in neon. >> it is flashing? >> it's not a tribute to journalists. we had a blogger say i'm not going to set foot in that museum until they do an extra special to copy editors. it is not about you. it is a museum of history but a different kind that reports what
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happened over the last several centuries through the eyes of journalists. so you get contemporary coverage of the assassination of kennedy and arrival of the beatles and the civil war and fascinating >> exactly. what have the visitors reactions been for the first year? exciting. we see the full range of course. tremendous amount of school groups and a lot of tourists visiting washingt washingto was. we bill ourselves as the world's most interactive museum. young people can play the part of a reporter or an editor or a journalist. we can even stand up in front of what you and your business called blue screen, to tape a broadcast announcement for their friends and family and then send it out to friends at home. amazing exhibits there. i well tell you, i can say this
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with some degree of humility. i just joined the museum in february, i've been the editor of u.s. a. today for the last five years. we have the largest piece of the berlin wall in north america. you can go there and see that and the guard tower in collaboration and partnership with the f.b. i.we celebrate their 100th anniversary and we have phenomenal artifacts. we have the unibomber's cabin believe it or not. and depending on your age, some of your viewers probably remember patty hurst and her tenure with the liberation army. we have the gun she used in the bank robbery and the leather jacket she wore. we have can coverage including
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dillinger's death mask and the bullet pruf vest he zn wear on that night >> with you have so many different exhibits. what do you have planned for us your second year? >> one of the great things about working for a museum where news is in the title we're updating and reflect the headlines in the museum. not long ago when there was an uproar in iran we covered the social network and the twittering. when newspapers have collapsed and some markets we quickly reported that. upcoming exhibits include: throughout the next year you'll be able to see manhunt exhibit about the assassination of abraham lincoln and barack ob a obama. >> i'm so sorry. we've run out of time but everyone has got and go and see
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the museum. >> thank you very much >> my guest has been ken pullson president of
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breaking news. the death report on the king of pop is complete. also new today, we're just getting in reports that michael jackson was finally laid to rest. so will fans get their chance to pay their respects? plus, jackson's estate could bring in nearly $100 million in deals after his death. plans for a movie, tv specials, trading cards, buttons, you name it. but in court today, jackson's mother objects. we want to know why. also this, police say a woman tried to hire a hit man to kill her husband. they'd only been married six months. and investigators believe money was the motive. so who's the hero? who tipped off cops and saved
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this guy's life? you're a huge part of the show. we love hearing from you. call in on any topic. the number, 1-877-tell-hln. you can e-mail us. cnn.com/primenews. or text us at hlntv. just start your message with the word "prime." it's your chance to be heard. >> controversy. opinion. your point of view. this is "prime news." welcome once again. this is "prime news." i'm mike galanos. a lot to get to. let's get right after it here. breaking, urgent developments in the michael jackson case. "entertainment tonight" is reporting the king of pop was finally buried in secret. we'll get to that. his resting place, forest lawn cemetery in hollywood. and this just in today. the los angeles county coroner's office has completed its report on jackson's death. so when are we going to find out what killed him? we'll take your calls, 1-877-tell hln is the number. joining us to talk about it, welcome back russell wetanson, entertainment reporter, legal analyst, attorney, with popsquire.com. also with us, steve rogers, detective lieutenant, nutley, new jersey police department. also, former member of the joint
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terrorism task force. anita kay is with us, criminal defense attorney, former prosecutor. and also joining us, ted rowlands, he's been covering this since day one on our sister network, cnn. ted, let's go right to you on this one. we've got big news on the coroner report, complete. so what does that mean? take us from there. >> yeah, we've been hearing this, that the coroner was basically finished probably two weeks ago and they've been waiting, delaying this sort of unveiling of the report and today finally the coroner came out with a statement saying we're all done but we've been told to hold it indefinitely by the lapd. so basically, what we have here is the coroner's office saying now publicly for the first time we're completely done with the investigation into jackson's death, the toxicology, et cetera, but we cannot release it because we have been told to extend the security hold, which was placed on this. bottom line here is police want more time to investigate before moving forward, and i am sure that they will unveil everything at the appropriate time, most likely in the next few weeks,
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but the coroner now saying basically stop calling us for updates on when we're going to release this, we are done, you're right, however, we can't tell you what happened. >> and your time line, what you're reading is a few weeks until we find out cause of death, is that right? >> yeah. until the detectives and obviously the d.a., they're talking, until they figure out where they're going with this case, they would rather that the coroner does not release this information to the public, and the coroner is going along with this request. so they're saying we're done, but we're not releasing this until the lapd gives us the green light. >> okay. let's bring in steve rogers, former member of the joint terrorism task force. steve, what's your read on this? why do you hold it? what's going on behind the scenes? >> well, the coroner may have found something that they didn't expect, and by releasing this information it may hinder the police investigation. so it's prudent just to wait until the police give the green light. >> okay. are you seeing criminal charges given here, steve? is that a reason to hold it? >> absolutely. they're going down the criminal charge road and i believe we'll
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see that soon. >> okay. anita, your read on this? same thing? you agree? >> absolutely. not surprising that they wouldn't release it, because there could be something in there that's going to lead them to someone else. as well as the d.a. may want to look at everything before they decide to file charges or not file charges, so they don't want the autopsy released. >> got you. okay. again, a few topics to hit on. let's get to the next topic. michael jackson buried official liu, forest lawn memorial park and mortuary in hollywood hills. let's bring in russell wetanson. russell, do we know when he was buried? obviously done in secret. what details do we know? >> there's not a lot of details we know about this, but a lot of people are breathing a sigh of relief that he has been buried. it has been a very long time for someone not to be buried. the question is will fans be able to visit? and that's an open question. a lot of people may be disappointed to know that he won't be buried at either neverland ranch here or if they transfer him in las vegas. >> okay. has there been talk -- or how
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much talk has there been -- i'm sure there was talk but how realistic of a graceland-like place for michael jackson and the first place you would think of would be neverland. >> that's right, there's been a lot of talk about this since the beginning of this whole event, because neverland has always been the focus of michael jackson and where he lived up until, of course, the big trial on molestation. a lot of people have talked about whether there would be transfer. there have been reports that it could be transferred physically from california to las vegas and set up one of the biggest theme parks we've ever seen. think about it. if each person who viewed that michael jackson tribute on tv, the memorial, came to visit, it would be one of the biggest spectacles we have ever seen in las vegas. >> and you're saying vegas would be the spot? >> that's right. las vegas, michael jackson had spent some time there, rebbie jackson is there. and it's a place that has some space to do that. they would physically relocate everything that's on the neverland ranch and then recreate it. >> all right. anita kay is our attorney. how much legal wrangling would there be before michael jackson
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would be moved and you would have some kind of graceland-like place for him in las vegas, as russell is suggesting? >> well, obviously, if the family wants that done, they would have a right to be able to move him. but then when we look at what could happen in las vegas, and i think this has talked a little bit about neverland, is what type of problem could this create? i mean, graceland first caused a problem because it was in a neighborhood. so logistically, you would have to get building permits, you would have to get permits from the county in las vegas, if it's clark county, to set up this type of event, this type of, basically, an attraction for people to come and see. >> yeah, ongoing attraction. all right, guys. we'll take a quick break. when we come back, we're going to talk about some of the business deals that are in the works that could increase the value of michael jackson's estate by millions. we're talking about a movie deal, bringing his final rehearsals to the big screen. that and other topics on the way. and we'll take your calls at 1-877-tell-hln.
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welcome back to "prime news" on hln. continuing to keep you updated on developments in the michael jackson case. we know the coroner's report is complete, but they're not going to release cause of death, at least for a few weeks. we also know he was buried in hollywood hills. and the third item i want to talk about is business deals. it could increase the value of michael jackson's estate by millions. want to bring back russell wetanson for that. all right, russell. who knows how much money we're talking about here, but lay out what deals are on the table that we know of. >> that's right, today's court hearing, the money is starting to flow from the michael jackson estate, but not without a lot of judicial oversight. so today on the table we had a movie deal with columbia
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pictures to release footage from the rehearsal, of the upcoming -- or no longer tour of michael jackson. then we had merchandising deals, which involve agreements between aeg live and bravado to deal with michael jackson merchandising arising out of perhaps other kinds of events not associated with the tour. then -- >> go ahead. >> sure. and then there was a lot of talk about the aeg agreement, the overall agreement and the confidentiality of it. and the attorneys, there was a lot of sparring over how confidential that should remain and the exceptions to that confidentiality provision. >> so the aeg agreement is standing in the way of these business deals, is that what you're saying? >> no, they're a little bit different from each other. it's a separate issue. >> okay. and what -- there's one other item i know that jermaine jackson's rendition of the song "smile" at michael jackson's memorial, that could go to itunes. is that right? and that would bring in tons of money as well. >> that's right. that wasn't a part of today's discussion. the major things from today was the court approved -- the court
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had already approved the deal with columbia pictures on friday, but they revisited it today to make sure that katherine jackson's attorneys and katherine jackson did not object to that. the major argument today was over the merchandising deal. >> okay. let's get a call in. linda's with us in oregon. hey, linda. go ahead. >> caller: hi, mike. thanks for taking my call. >> yeah. >> caller: i think they've probably known for a very long time, the coroner's office, what, you know, what the results are. and i think they're just waiting for -- they don't want to make any mistakes, the police don't want to make any mistakes, they want all the dots and the ts crossed and i just think they're just waiting to get all the evidence gathered and then they'll probably make an arrest. >> i think you're right on with that, linda. let's bring back steve rogers, a former member of the fbi joint terrorism task force. steve, i think our caller's right on with that. there's no need to rush. certainly, we have questions, we want information, but you've got to get it right, especially if you're -- and how would it go down? would we hear reports, find out cause of death, and bang, you've got an arrest right after that? is that the way it would go?
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>> it won't go that quickly, but as the caller stated, every "t" has to be crossed and every "i" has to be dotted. once the police take that -- the pieces of this puzzle and pull it together, you will see an arrest. but it's all got to be in place. >> anita, as you look at this from a lawyer's standpoint, you've got to be methodical here, right? there's a thirst for information from us, the public, we want to know answers, but you can't rush this. >> exactly. especially because it is so public. it's why we all want to know, but in cases that aren't this public, usually the autopsy report, you don't see it until the case is actually filed. it's just, in this case, we all want to know what's going on. for example, we could speculate and say maybe there were other drugs found in his system that may lead to new search warrants for other doctors or for other people. and if they release that autopsy report, now we're all privy to this information that the police need to investigate and want to do that secretly. they don't want to tip their hand to anyone. >> exactly. and these other doctors that are out there, they're tipped off too.
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so they can start covering themselves. guys, thanks so much. anita, steve, russell, we appreciate it. more coming up, this story is such a shocker, a newlywed accused of trying to have her new husband killed, hired a hit man, unknowingly was an undercover cop. coming up, we'll update you on -- we'll try to find out why and also hear from the husband.
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welcome back. not much of a marriage for these newlyweds. police in boynton beach, police in boynton beach, florida say the wife hired a hit man to murder her husband. what she didn't know was that the hit man was an undercover cop. police say they were able to pull off an elaborate sting, tricking her into thinking her plot worked, and that her husband was actually dead. they caught her reaction on tape. the tears, the works, check it out. >> miss dippolito? >> yes.
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>> [ inaudible ]. >> no! oh, no! >> yeah, right. what cops -- i don't know how cops, number one, kept a straight face. number two, we talked to an officer last week and said there was not one teardrop, just a lot of the verbal sobbing there. let's bring in richelle cary, our "prime news" correspondent. richelle, how did cops pull this one off? that was an elaborate sting. >> they're professionals, i'm telling you, mike. they really are. let me give you some background. police think the motive here was money. okay? specifically, a $243,000 townhouse. dalia dippolito was only married to her husband, michael, for six months before she allegedly wanted him dead. according to police, a male friend of hers, that's who tipped them off. they say when dalia went to hire
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a hit man they had an undercover officer ready to play the part. dalia reportedly told the officer she was sure, she was sure she wanted to carry out this hit. the price they worked out, $3,000 plus $1,200 for the purchase of a gun. police say she had an alibi and that she gave out photos of her husband, his schedule, the layout of their apartment. they say that they staged a murder scene at the home and when she got there, that's what you're looking at there, they told her the news that her husband was dead. and her reaction, you saw that reaction, mike, that it was the sobbing. and by the way, "prime news" just obtained michael dippolito's divorce petition today. >> yeah, not too soon for him. richelle, thank you for that. we're all on the same page here. joining me to talk about it, our expert panel. dr. tara fields is with us, marriage and family therapist. we could go an hour with her alone on this one. also with us, josh friedman, jason brody, attorneys for the
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husband in the case, michael dippolito. and joining us by phone, andrew mara with the "palm beach post." andrew, let's start with you on this one. and first question still is why? do we know motive yet, andrew? >> well, the motive, best we can tell, like she was saying a minute ago, appears to be money. that's at least what his attorneys are alleging, that she had done this all to obtain his condo. and the day before, she had met with the -- what she thought was a hit man, she convinced him to transfer the deed to the condo into solely her name, so that obviously -- whether he passed away or not, it would be her condo. >> all right. so we've got money here. what about another guy? was she cheating on michael dippolito? >> that's what his attorneys seem to think. they say the confidential informant who tipped off the cops was a close male friend of hers. they seem to think the relationship was romantic. they don't know for sure, but that's certainly an intriguing twist. >> yeah. let's bring in michael dippolito's attorneys. jason brody, josh friedman. guys, is that -- so you're
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saying the person she's cheating with is the one who tipped -- who saved michael's life, basically? >> we're not saying that. we just know it was a male informant. whether or not there was a relationship, that's to be determined. the most important thing, whoever this informant is is the one who saved michael's life and michael's grateful to that person. >> yeah. the tip-off to the cops like that. you mentioned, michael, he was on the "today" show with jason and josh here. he was talking about, you know, obviously one of the questions, what about your relationship? what was it like? he talked about the relationship, and basically never saw it coming. let's listen. >> we hit it off, me and my wife actually got along so well, we were together 24/7. i was told, as she was walking out the door, she was going to bring starbucks coffee home. so, i mean, it was a pretty normal scene. nothing at all -- nothing ever would have made me think what
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happened could have happened. never. >> let's bring in dr. tara fields. tara, how could that happen -- as he's explaining it, they hit it off, they were together 24/7, how could he not know? >> yeah, well, i think we hear these kind of stories, i know we hear these stories in the news all the time and in my office, where somebody says, i never saw this coming, either i had no clues that my wife was an alcoholic or my spouse was having an affair. and often when we're in love we choose not to see what we see or know what we know, because we don't want to really accept the reality that maybe this person doesn't love me and dangling all my money and my townhouse in front of her maybe was the reason that she married me. >> got you. i want to bring back his attorneys, jason, josh, guys, last week when i heard him interviewed, it sounded like he was kind of thinking, you know, maybe there were some signs. did he tell you what signs he was talking about? what things he might have missed that are kind of adding up now? >> well, without going into what
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he actually told us, what we can tell you is there were no signs to suspect that she would try to have him killed. that's something that no one ever thinks and no one ever looks for and he certainly didn't see any reason or any suspicions to think that his wife might try to kill him. >> did he talk about -- i did he tell you specifics or can you relay that to us, what he's tell you is, you know, whether he said things were strange or not, he didn't see any signs that his wife would actually try to kill him. >> yeah, right. okay. guys, we're going to take a quick break. when we come back, we'll hear more from michael dippolito. and we'll hear from him talk about what was it like. you think everything's fine, your wife's going to get you starbucks, and then all of a sudden cops are at your door telling you your wife wants you dead. we'll take your calls as well. 1-877-tell-hln.
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welcome back. a couple topics that are going to have you talking. miley cyrus, disney star, teen sensation. well, we're going to be talking about this one. teen choice awards, she's dancing, basically, before a stripper pole in a pair of short shorts, daisy dukes, she's 16 and a lot of young girls emulate her. we'll talk about that one. there she is. i'm scratching my head over this one, how this could happen. 1-877-tell-hln is the number. also this topic, "jon & kate plus 8," the mom, opening up, kate gosselin, opening up to the media about her divorce and that she still wears her ring so that the kids don't get upset. kate gosselin worried about the kids. but they're still on a reality show. bearing your soul before the
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camera, shedding tears. some emotion coming up from kate on the show. as we take your calls. 1-877-tell-hln. we're taking your calls on this topic as well, a wild story. newlywed hiring a hit man to bump off her husband of six months. thankfully, it was an undercover cop, husband michael dippolito is okay. let's go to the phones. kurt's with us in missouri. hey, kurt, go ahead. >> caller: hey. how's it going? >> hey, kurt. good. >> caller: a question about that. is that normal for a police -- i'm not questioning the police department, but is that normal for them to stage the death or -- i would have thought they would have enough evidence that they wouldn't have to do that, where something could go wrong and then they might be held liable or something. see what i'm saying? >> yeah. we asked last week. i want to get back to our reporter, andrew mara is with us. "palm beach post." that is a question. how are police responding to that? you look at it on a layman's level, they've got all the evidence they need. look at this reaction. what are police saying? >> well, you're absolutely right. it was an unusual move
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something, would say a theatrical move, and it did raise some eyebrows. but the police, what they say is this is going to present great evidence when this eventually goes it trial and goes to a jury. they say this will speak to her character, speak to her personality, showing her dual those two is going to really speak volumes about her when it 5,000% sure she wanted her husband dead. video speaks for itself. i'm not a lawyer. another call here. vanessa in nevada. go ahead. >> caller: my question is, is the husband, since they're married, is the husband ever going to be on the hook for her legal bills? is he going to have to pay for

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