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breaking news tonight. a young mother with five little children in a minivan barrel down the wrong way on a packed interstate. slamming into another vehicle. tally? eight dead. one child, clinging to live. tragedy? had yes. accident, no. toxicology reports, mommy high on booze and pot. bombshell tonight. first, daddy claims drunk mommy
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had a stroke. bad tooth? she is not pregnant. and finally, a mystery and lump in her leg, moving toward her brain. why? why don't they just stop? tonight, daddy says, it wasn't the liquor in her stomach. it was the an anbesol on her tooth. yes, the new defense to criminal charges. mommy used anbesol. that's right. the overthe counter toothache gel they say made her plow into another car, killing eight. >> breaking news in the case of the tragedy on the taconoy, the "new york post" says schuler was taking the drug anbesol or for a toothache and that's what caused her blood alcohol level to be twice the legal limit. >> the operator of the 2003 ford
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van was responsible for this crash. the toxicology and autopsy shows diane schuler had a blood alcohol content of.19%. >> i go to bed every night knowing, my heart is clear. she did not drink. of she is not an alcoholic. >> in addition, the autopsy revealed that diane schuler had approximately 6 of grams of alcohol in her stomach. alcohol that had yet to be m metaboliz metabolized. >> i'm not saying that test is wrong here, but something had to happen. this is not a woman who would jeopardize five children. >> toxicology also reveals that diane schuler had a high level of thc. tetra hydro cannib ball in her blood. >> something happened to her brain. that doesn't give me an answer. does not give me an answer to the alcohol in her stomach. or the marijuana allegedly there. >> in conjunction with the collision reinstruction and its
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detailed examination of the schulers' family, investigators uncovered a broken, 1.75 liter bottle of vodka. >> she is not an alcoholic. >> if you believe the circumstances the way they are now described, you have to believe that a woman with five children in the car is smoking pot, and drink out of a bottle. >> and, breaking news as the mystery surrounding the sudden death of music icon michael jackson intensifies. it is confirmed. jackson's live-in doctor shoots jackson up with propofol, and then heads into another room to make private cell calls. jackson left to die, according to sources, and lapd tonight stops the release of jackson's final autopsy report. as feds and vegas police raid a vegas pharmacy for jackson's private doctor obtained the
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powerful intravenous drug. police executing at least five search warrants on jackson's sleep-over doctor, vegas and houston. tonight, after 49 days and nights, jackson's body still kept on ice, no burial in sight. why? and why have there been no charges lodged against these well-healed doctors, pharmacies, suppliers, and the entourage that copied up a dope addict until he died in front of his own children with blood allegedly on their hands. where? where is lady justice? >> doctor monroe comes down the stairs to the stairwell that leads into the kitchen, and screaming, hurry, go get prince, call security, get prince. it did seem like she was in a panic state. paris starts screaming, "daddy,
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daddy, dad quo. >> cops gave a search warrant in a pharmacy. >> two in a storage shed, two in las vegas, and this the fifth, a pharmacy not far from the clinic where doctor conrad murray practiced in las vegas. this comes on the heels of the conclusion of the coroner's report in la here, they finished their report into the death investigation. but they held it, because lapd has asked them the reason. they say the investigation continues. >> captain steve ruda from the l.a. fire department. and he told me that jackson was not breathing, and had no pulse when paramedics arrived at the scene of his rented mansion. he said he was in, quote, dire need of help. >> he's purpomping, not respond to anything. >> i'm told the doctor took responsibility at the scene, he was in charge, he was calling
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the shots. >> you cannot step out of a room giving a patient diprivan. the patient will stop breathing and the patient will be dead. >> and the search for a missing 5-year-old afflicted with cerebral palsy. the boy vanishes from the back seat of a car, just outside a shoe store at a busy suburban shopping center. how could i just disappear and nobody sees a thing? exclusive. as we go to air, we confirm the last person to see little hasani before he disappears takes a polygraph. his foster dad with us live. homicide investigators join contain ni canine tracker dogs across the city of oakland. where is 5-year-old hassani?
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>> we want who is responsible for this. >> after lewis ross parked behind the shoe store in rockridge. he says he told 5-year-old hasani campbell to wait at the back door while he walked around to the front to held his aunt to unlock the door. within a few minutes, the aunt, jennifer campbell says she opened the door, but hasani was gone. >> and i thought maybe he was hiding behind something, or maybe he was choking, or maybe it was something. or maybe he wandered around the front. >> police searched for six hours, but say there were no witnesses who could place hasani behind the store, other than ross. >> had not spoken to the media up until this point, not because we were shying or in hiding. we were with police and fbi, giving them all of the information. first day alone i was with police for 17 hours straight. >> our worst fear is he has gone somewhere and is lost, frightened, hurt himself. we want to try to find him before anything like that happens.
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>> good evening. i'm nancy grace. i want to thank you for with being us, everyone. very quickly, thank you for all of your calls, e-mail support for my first novel, a murder mystery thriller, "elevy enth victim," in bookstores. it goes to charities to provide a loving home to mentally handicapped. and thank you to everybody to came out last night to celebrate the release. a special thank you to my number one fans, my mother and father, my husband david, my brother-in-law, mac, friends, guest of the show, network presidents. my ep, dean sacoli and the whole staff. and last night, a very special group of people came to the aid of my father immediately following the book party. thank you to the nyfd, first responders, paramedics, security and the wonderful staff at the
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new york cornell medical center. i'm grateful to report he is well and with us tonight. and breaking news. god does answer prayers. thank you, friends. and to everyone i hope you like the book. and now, a young mother, five little children in a mini van barrels down the wrong way on a packed interstate, slamming into another vehicle. eight dead. one child left hanging on to life. tragedy, yes. accident, no. toxicology reports mommy high on booze and pot. and tonight, another stunning twist. >> the "new york post" reports the attorney representing the family of accused dui mom diane schuler says she was taking anbesol for a toothache and that's what caused her blood alcohol level to be .19, over twice the legal limit. >> prior to getting that car, she had numerous medical
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conditions. problem. >> one of them was an abscess which was almost two months old. which she would not go to the dentist for, no matter how much he begged. she had diabetes of various levels. also had a lump on her leg, and lump on the leg, not sure what it was, but it was moving. did she have a stroke and then have alcohol? >> autopsy from the medical examiner was very specific. it looked for stroke, heart attack and dissecting aneurysm, and it was negative on all those counts. >> the attorney for the schuler family told me that they are looking into tia. the possible explanation. tia is like a stroke in that it is an interruption of blood flow into the brain. but it does not cause permanent damage. it only lasts a few minutes, it can last up to the most an hour.
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but it doesn't leave any permanent damage, and therefore doesn't show up in an autopsy. it also does not explain why there would be all kinds of alcohol and drugs in her blood. >> i'm certainly not a doctor, but i don't think alcohol shows up in a tia. this problem is just a great example of women driving drunk and how increasing that is. and driving with their kids in their car like diane schuler did. it's a form of child abuse. >> we are taking your calls live. out to sophia hall, reporter with wcbs news radio, 880. thank you for being with us. sophia, i've got it all! anbesol, over the counter -- you know, if this could make you have ten shots worth of vodka in your stomach, there would be a lot of drunk babies in town, okay? because when the twins have teething problems, things like this orajel is very common, over
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the counter. >> it is very common, people go about their die. however, the dye an schuler's family attorney, her husband's family attorney is saying that's exactly why she had a .19 blood alcohol level. that's what the autopsy showed. however, the medical examiner says, there's a little bit of difference here. anbesol has something called benefit zil alcohol, and vodka has ethel alcohol. two different things, ethyl alcohol was in diane schuler's system. >> a rather bizarre and well-known incident of the taconac parkway was unique not by its uniqueness, but how much it mirrors what's going on in other lower profile accidents that happen every day.
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had a cup of coffee in the morning, packed the cars up like we always do and headed out. it was just like every other weekend or every weekend we go up there. >> the husband, nancy, is in denial. and it's understandable. if there was a condition of alcoholism, it's something that he just didn't know about. >> this isn't denial, it's repression. he's actually acted as though he knows nothing about his wife. were they living in separate homes? >> it's hard to imagine that he would let his own children in that car, if she is impaired behind the wheel. >> at a conference last week
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saying there wasn't alcohol or -- it was diane schuler's alleged medical conditions that caused this accident. >> he said a number of things through his attorney, as well, that maybe she had some stroke-like conditions that didn't show up in initial autopsy. or he also suggested that perhaps she had a tooth abscess. >> the autopsy from the medical examiner was very specific. it looked for stroke, heart attack and dissecting aneurysm. and it was negative on all those counts. and the only thing that would have put her out would have been a stroke. didn't happen. >> straight back to sophia hall, wcbs news radio report -- news radio 880. so sophia, right now we know that the police are meeting with prosecutors. that doesn't look good. the only person for them to be looking at logically is the husband. he was not in the car. so i'm assuming that their theory -- the theory they're examining for possible criminal
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charges is that he knew she was drunk or high when he sent those kids off in the car. >> and that's exactly right. and not only are authorities, the police department, looking at that, but also cps, child protective services. because there is the miracle of this crash, the lone survivor, brian schuler, the 5-year-old son of both diane and daniel. and right now, it looks like he is recovering, and he possibly and most likely will go home and live with the father. >> now, to amman ali with the "journal news," welcome, thank you for being with us. amman, why don't they just shhh. why do they keep talking? it seems to get worse and worse. >> that's true, nancy. irving anek, the bastardi's attorney, i talked to him today and he said he is taking anything the attorney for the schuler family, anything he says with a grain of salt.
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and he is saying more and more these explanations are becoming more and more incredulous. >> getting worse. normally, the lawyer tells the client to clam up. but it seems to me that maybe the client needs to tell the lawyer to shut his pie hole. all right. let's take a look at some of this lawyer's other high-profile cases. there is, of course, michael lohan he represented when lohan sued ex-wife for a stake in daughter's earnings. his client wanted his daughter's money. and then he represented joey buttafou buttafouco. remember him? let's see a shot of buttafouco. you remember the long island low lolita. jessica hahn, the tele advantage lift secretary turned playmate and represented her in a rape case against jim baker. and then the kidney doctor, richard batista.
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the lawyer sued his wife for $1.5 million or the kidney he gave her before their divorce. now, you think leash the lawyers. veteran defense attorney renee rockwell joining us in our manhattan studios and john burress, renowned defense attorney out of the san francisco jurisdiction. burress, come on, please. help me out here. why doesn't he just zip it? normally it's the lawyer telling the client to be quiet. >> well, i think he's trying to put forth a program to suggest -- >> i'm sorry, he's trying to put forth what? >> he's trying to put forth a defense, because he is trying to keep his wife and the husband from being prosecuted. and trying to show that the husband did not have any knowledge about her having this alcohol problem, so therefore, he wants to suggest that the alcohol issues she had were not necessarily alcohol. he's trying to demonstrate that there is another reasonable explanation. it's a tough argument. >> renee, wouldn't it be wise to
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save those explanations for trial, instead of blowing them all out of the water by blurting them out to the press? a moving growth up your leg toward your brain? anbesol over the counter, that made her have ten shots worth of vodka in her tunnely, and evidence of pot? >> yeah, it's hard to imagine how something you put on your tooth would just somehow get into your stomach. >> i mean, to come into trail. these zany theories, the lawyers coming up with. >> no, it's not coming into trial. but i think at most what he needs to be concerned with is a civil case.
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when they interviewed daniel schuler about his wife's medical conditions, they also asked him, did she do drugs recreationally, did she drink at all. and what he told them, she was a social drinker, and she occasionally smoked pot. >> at the time of the crash, she had a blood alcohol of .19 and six grams undigested in her stomach. >> there is no doubt this woman was drinking, from, you know,
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the minute she got in that car from mcdonald's until she crashed. >> the evidence clearly shows she was highly intoxicated. not only that, she was driving the wrong way. >> straight out to the lines. lori in alabama. hi, lori. >> caller: hi. >> what's your question, dear? >> caller: i just wanted to know, they said that she was camping? was the mother of the nieces with them while they were camping? >> good question. out to rupa, our producer on story. what about it? >> that's right. the family was camping 90 miles north of where the crash site happened, and they were together, but it was just daniel schuler, diane schuler, her -- their two children and the three nieces. so in other words, the uncle and aunt were not there. >> got it. let's go to brad lamb, board registered interventionist at bradlamb.com. all of these excuses amount to either a concerted effort to
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avoid cops looking at him. or more denial. that's why people don't have interventions. they're in denial. they don't want to admit there's a problem. now, this problem has cost eight lives. >> if i was the family right now, i would he look at trying to not just for right now with the boy -- the surviving child gets out of the hospital, but really talk about who is going to take best care of the child. when you have both parents in denial, i find it's best to get the kids out of the situation so we can really address the issues requesting on there, nancy. >> what about it doctor bethany? >> not only is it denial, this is pathological denial, and what is she covering up? did she have a history of drinking, did did she have an untreated bipolar illness, did they have a fight? did they have domestic disputes where she made threats against the children? and do you know what else, nancy? never once does he take all this
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air time to memorialize those beautiful children. the life of the 2-year-old and his nieces. that's the tragedy. >> at the time of the crash, toxicology has said she had a blood alcohol of .19, and she also had 6 grams of undigested alcohol in her stomach, as well as marijuana. (announcer) now skating...jim perdue.
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the nightmare began when 36-year-old diane schuler with five kids in her minivan mistakenly turned on to the exit ramp. >> schuler was disoriented when she pulled on to the parkway. called her brother and said she didn't feel right. >> she continued for 1.7 miles before it hit this suv carrying three men. the minivan with the kids then careeneded into a third car, rolled down them bankment and burst into flames. >> toxicology reports showed
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schuler was twice over the legal alcohol limit and showed evidence of marijuana use. >> it's difficult for me to believe that nobody knew the propensity of this woman to drink and have drugs. i think it's extremely unusual, extremely suspicious. i think that the family should have been immediately notified the state police to stop that vehicle. they knew the license plate, and not let her proceed. yet they let her proceed. >> the question asked, did she have an alcohol problem, did you know her to go to bars? >> absolutely not. >> did you know her to get drunk -- >> i never saw her drunk since the day i met her. >> sad. very sad. upset. lost my daughter, i lost my wife. all i have is my son. >> are you angry at your wife? >> no. i'm not angry at her. >> take us to that morning. >> it was normal. she was fine. we had a cup of coffee in the morning, packed the cars up like
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we always do and headed out. it was just like every other weekend, or every weekend we go up there. >> and according to reports, rupa mikkileneni, one of the nieces knew something was wrong and tried to call and said something is wrong with aunt diane. there they were helpless in that car, knowing that something was horribly wrong. seeing cars whizzing past. god only knows what was going on in that car, and i think of the children strapped in, no way out. no way to save their own lives. >> that's right, nancy. and during the time period of that amazing ride, four hours, there were several phone calls made, and one of the phone calls was with one of the children on the phone, indicating fear, and aunt diane is disoriented, doesn't feel well. she didn't use those words, but something was wrong. the children knew it. >> to glen birch, former mad men
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against drunk drivers, former president who lost his son to a drunk driver. glen, thank you for being with us. weigh in. >> you know, he's in denial, nancy. you know, when you lose children and your loved ones in such a horrific crime, you're in denial, you're stretched into two different worlds. first you have to face the fact that you have lost your loved ones. secondly, you're thrust into a criminal justice system, and he is trying to have a defense for his wife. but you know, clearly, she doesn't fit the typical picture we have of your drunk driver. she may be a soccer mom. however, her behavior, she clearly is a typical drunk driver. one who has a high bac, that's the fact. and the second fact is, driving the wrong way. and these two factors trump the anbesol. so clearly, we have to really take a look at who is going to be the voice of the victims, those innocent children, who are
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no longer with us. you know, evidence is going to come out, but one day when it comes to the trial, let's hope that the evidence speaks loud and clear of what really took place. >> doctor marnie makary, physician and professor of public health at johns hopkins, what do you make of these shifting, changing claims that they are coming up with to explain what happened? >> well, to be honest with you, nancy, the anbesol and the transient he is keepic attack or tia arguments are the most common arguments used in dui and alcohol-related crimes. that's because they're hard to trace. the problem with the anbesol argument is that it increases your breathalyzer alcohol, but not your blood alcohol. so it may give you a false positive on breathalyzer test, but this was a blood alcohol test, so that is going to be medically proven wrong, and that's a fallacy of an argument. the transient ischemic attack, same thing. it would be a trace report, a first time in the medical
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literature for a 36-year-old to have it. >> everyone, we are shifting gears, going live to california. take a listen. >> michael jackson's life at the end was being controlled and manipulated. >> we have a personal doctor here with him, sir. >> oh, there's a doctor there? >> police have executed a search warrant at a las vegas pharmacy in connection with jackson's death. more than a dozen law enforcement officers, federal drug agents, all inside the applied pharmacy in las vegas. >> this search was specific in that it was a follow-up on information that they were able to get out of murray's clinic and home when that search about a week and a half ago in vegas. they used that information, which now has basically taken them to the pharmacy. and then you could take from that that they are looking for the origin of specific prescriptions that had to do with this case. >> we learned the toxicology report is complete, but the cause of death still top-secret. >> if there is a single drug in his system, and a single obvious
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cause of death, maybe the case gets a little easier. but if there are other drugs in his system, if he has a history of use of other drugs, it does seem like a very hard case. >> you don't seek a doctor, and stick him in the room, and the doctor gives him something to make him rest, and then he's not going to wake up? something is wrong there. >> tonight we learn of allegations against michael jackson's live-in doctor. reportedly, he shoots jackson up with propofol, a highly powerful intravenous drug, and then leaves the room to make private cell calls? leaving jackson there alone to die? to our chief editorial producer, ellie joseph. what about it, ellie, what do we know? >> nancy, the "los angeles times" is reporting from three different sources that cardiologist doctor murray claims that he spoke to investigators. he told them that he had been regularly administering propofol, that powerful
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anesthetic to jackson to help him sleep. that night in question, jackson was under the influence of propofol. this doctor, reportedly told investigators in an interview that because there had never been problems in the past, he felt he could leave the room and make several phone calls. when he returned, jackson was not breathing. now, we spoke to the spokesperson for the doctor, they wouldn't -- or the doctor's attorney, rather. they wouldn't confirm all of the articles, details, but they would confirm the comments of that the attorney made. he said he was not going to dispute what these investigators said. but he says they are not telling the whole story. >> but that doesn't jive, allen duke, entertainment editor with the cnn wire with the earlier story that jackson fell dramatically. fell down, cardiac arrest, in front of his son, prince, michael jackson. and the boy thought that his dad was kidding. that doesn't jive. those two stories don't match. >> no, i guess they wouldn't. but what we're hearing today
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from about the phone calls, we're hearing from his attorney, the spokesman for doctor murray's attorney, acknowledging that he made some phone calls to family and relatives before finding jackson in distress in a bedroom. but we're not hearing that part of the story from, of course, the lawyer. >> ellie jostad, the two versions don't match. >> right, nancy. the version where the children saw michael jackson collapse comes from a "new york post" story originally i believe with stacy brown, the jackson biographer. other reports have said that rather doctor murray found jackson in a bedroom, he started house. it's not clear that jackson actually fell down in the presence of the children. >> to doctor marnie makary again, joining us and johns hopkins. doctor makary, propofol, don't you shoot it up intravenously, and you have to lay there with the needle the whole time when you're asleep? you take it out, you wake up.
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>> that's exactly right. the second you stop using it is the second you wake up. and basically you only use it for general anesthesia. i can understand how he may have gotten comfortable and left the room, but when you get a dose a little higher than the effective dose, it's very easy to stop breathing. >> everybody, we're taking your calls live. breaking news in the michael jackson investigation. the verdict is in. tonight's winner of our show's number one fan contest is north carolina friend good went lynn wall. she came close to winning studies at kaplan university after becoming extremely ill. but she says our show inspired her to keep working. and now she is only a few months away from graduating with a degree in paralegal science. she is not only one of our new fans, but she dedicates her life to supporting our troops. her favorite job, taking care of husband chuck, and 14-year-old daughter shelby. congratulations, gend lynn, you get the signed copy of the new
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really wanted to get a good night's sleep. and that he had gone through everything in the past, really didn't help him to sleep. and heed a -- dip ro van. >> search warrants to investigators think michael jackson was an addict. >> and exactly where doctor bethany marshall, author of "deal breakers," does the private live-in doctor, stripper girlfriend fit into that scenario? >> apparently, doctor murray had an ex stripper girlfriend with whom he had a love child, and he stashed her in an apartment near king of pop's home. according to one report, he gave this woman a $3500 check the night after their first encounter. is this the kind of grand osteoowe. >> wait, wait, hold up. their first encounter. you mean their first trick? >> their first sexual encounter? natisha lance, do cell phone
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records suggest that he deuces him up with an intravenous shot and leaves the room to call the stripper girlfriend? >> we don't even know how long doctor murray had had left the room for, but we do know when he returned, michael jackson was no longer breathing. >> to tom shamshack former police chief, and now an instructor at boston university, private investigator. tom, where would you go from here? >> nancy, good evening. the one investigative tool that i would use would be the time line, and i would make sure that we find out who was in the room with michael. make sure that the security, the doctor, the nurse, get an idea of who was there, and who was supposed to be there. >> john burress, what about it? >> that's appropriate. i think you've got to find out the time line. i mean, the doctor is in a very difficult position, because if he left that room for any period of time, and michael was
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unattended, he had some real problems there. >> what kind of problems are you talking homicide problems? are you talking about neglect? >> negligence. criminal negligence type problems. >> renee? >> because number one, the wrong drug, and secondly, negligence taking care of him. >> that's right, nancy. and if this criminal negligence rises to the level of just something so reckless and out of control, then he is looking at possibly manslaughter charges. >> very quickly, a 5-year-old little boy afflicted with cerebral palsy braces on his ankles missing. take a listen. >> authorities in oakland, california are searching for clues in the case of missing 5-year-old hasani campbell who is disabled with cerebral palsy. >> police say around 5:00, they received a call for help from the 5-year-old boy's father. they say he drove the son to the shoes of rockridge where he could leave the son in his mother's care. he left the boy in the bmw of the back lot of the store while he walked around to the front to unlock the door.
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when the father opened the store's back door, he told police his son was gone. >> i feel responsible for this. >> immediately, there was this -- five or six cop cars right after that. it was pretty quick. a number of our regulars ran out to see if they could find the little boy. >> the entire area was shut down by investigators as search dogs combed for clues. police feel hasani may have been abducted. >> the very latest in this case, to henry k. lee, san francisco chronicle reporter. what about it? >> it's been several days since anyone has seen hasani. we know his father, louis ross has taken a polygraph, and still no sign of the hill boy as every hour becomes critical. >> i understand he has agreed to a polygraph? >> that's correct, nancy. in fact, that went down yesterday, according to the reports we're hearing. now, the foster mother in the case did not want to take a polygraph. she is six months pregnant and
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was concerned there might have been a health risk involved there. but in fact, the foster father did take a polygraph test yesterday. with me now, special guest, that foster father to hasani, lewis ross. thank you for being with us. >> you're welcome. >> mr. ross, i understand you volunteered to take a polygraph. >> yes, i did. we have nothing to hide. and basically, it was just -- this has been a traumatic experience. we understand the police have a job to do, and so the polygraph was basically a normal process. >> mr. ross, i really admire that. mr. ross, explain to me in the moments that we have left, everyone wants to know, you left the boy in the car. but now that i understand what -- -- >> that part of our frustration.
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outside that -- being certify ankled through the media, the majority is incorrect. let's begin with my son was when i left. this is a routine that we have had for the past four to five months, because actually i'm in a class from 6:00 to 9:30 on those nights, and there is a time window when we needed someone to watch the kids. i would be in class, and jennifer would be at work. their aunt. so i would drop the kids off at the store, and they would stay in the back room and play with each other until she got off work, and they would all come home together, and i would see them at 9:30, 10:00 at night when i got home from class. as normal routine, i would pull into the back park -- there's a little small parking lot behind the store that accommodates about two to four cars. i would pull into that parking spot, then proceed to basically get out of my side, walk around, open up the door for hasani, and because that was normal routine,
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hasani is not as physically disabled as has been portrayed in the media. number one, he does not wear silver leg braces that's been thrown out there in the media, which is kind of disconcerting, because to me, that was a discriminator. if i'm scanning, looking for a child and you tell me he's missing and wearing silver leg braces on the outside of his clothes, that's what i'm looking at. we were extremely frustrated to say that that story got out. >> right. aren't they small, white braces on his ankles? >> yes. and you -- >> okay. >> don't need to wait for you to see them -- he was wearing shorts, and even then you would have to look down. >> so you open the door, and you're in this back parking lot, and then what happened? >> i opened up his car door. while i open up the door -- he has already taken off his seatbelt from his car seat and standing up, waiting to get out. as i walk around to hit the side with his sister, i say hasani, go by the back door. he has done this a couple times
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before. i grab his sister, 19 months, and take her with me. and i pop the trunk of the car and open the trunk and shut the door. so at this time, his door is open, and the trunk of my car is open. and then i proceed to the front of the store. at the front of the store, i don't walk inside. i'm still on the sidewalk. i see their aunt. she knows why i'm there. i tell her, open up the back door. >> okay. >> she turns to walk to the back to open up the door. i then circle back, the same way i came, right around the corner, to basically hand over alia. by the time i got there, jennifer is already out of the store, walking toward me, asking where is hasani, and i say, what do you mean, where is hasani, and i look to the side, and he is no longer there. >> everyone, with me right now is hasani's foster father, lewis ross, the subject of intense scrutiny being the last one with the little boy.
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his explanation perfectly crystal-clear. he is taking your calls. as we go to break, i want to wish a very happy birthday to a new york friend of the show. a proud mother of three, beautiful anita torres. happy birthday. and thank you to annette rosy, borders book store in new york, for hosting a book signing just before we went to air. thank you.
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back to the father of hasani campbe campbell, a 5-year-old little boy, he is not wearing big, silver leg braces, wearing little plastic white braces around his ankles. he simply can't jump or run. you wouldn't even notice them unless he had on shorts. lewis ross, it sounds like he was only standing there unattended for just a matter of seconds. maybe less than a minute. maybe a minute at most. >> it was about two to five minutes. and this was our -- this was our routine for months. >> and what flashed through your mind when she said where is hasanni? >> initially, it didn't hit me.
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he is probably standing around there, probably just got -- when hasanni gets frustrated, he freezes. so i thought he would still be on the side. and even jennifer thought he was hiding and joking around. >> how did you come to be his foster father? >> to make a long story short, his biological parents are not in a position mentally to take care of him. so jennifer had gotten involved with their lives, and visiting them, and we were approached by social services, would we be willing to take them. one of the concerns was hasanni most likely would not be placed, but his sisterly awould be placed so they would be split up. >> so you took them in even while your wife is pregnant, rile? >> she became pregnant after the fact, that's correct, and we're engag engaged. >> everyone, won't you help us? this little boy with cerebral palsy.
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510-238-2641. let's stop and remember marines lance corporal, met his baby for the first time after the tour. 48 hours since speaking to his wife. a big heart and smile. loved taping music, drawing, favorite football team. the new york giants. leaves behind parents, vicki and widow andrea and baby boy kaiden. thanks to our guests, but especially to you. see you tomorrow night, 8:00 sharp, eastern. until then, good night, friend.
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