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. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com breaking news in the michael jackson case. the man at the heart of the death investigation is speaking out for the first time. this hour, we will hear from dr. conrad murray as he breaks his silence and addresses his supporters. plus, caught on tape. as many as seven police officers accused of beating a guy to a pulp. he was pulled over for speeding going 15 over the limit. cops say he was defiant. you can see, was he he sifting? the beat-down. the guy was taserred multiple times, punched, kicked. you be the judge. did police go too far? always love hearing from you. we take your calls at 1-877-tell hln. we take e-mails as well and we
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welcome your text messages. start your message with the word "prime." that's all you have to do. your chance to be heard. controversy, opinions, your point of view. this is prime news. welcome once again. this is prime news. i'm mike galanos. back to our breaking story. new video just coming in. this from the man at the center of the michael jackson death investigation. dr. conrad murray, personal physician to the king of pop, speaks to his supporters in a one-minute clip on youtube. let's give it a listen. >> i want to thank all of my patients and friends who have sent such kind e-mails, letters and messages to let me know of your support and prayers for me and my family. because of all that is going on, i'm afraid to return phone calls or use my e-mail. therefore, i recorded this video to let all of you know that i have been receiving your messages. i have not been able to thank you personally, which as you know, is not normal for me.
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your messages give me strength and courage, and keep me going. they mean the world to me. please don't worry. as long as i keep god in my heart and you in my life, i will be fine. i have done all i can do. i told the truth and i have faith the truth will prevail. god bless you, and thank you. >> all right. want to hear from you on this. taking your calls at 1-877-tell hln. back with us to talk about this statement, jim moray, chief correspondent, inside edition and ann bremner. ann also sat in on michael jackson's molestation trial. jim, what do you make of this? first public comments and this is what we get. what are your thoughts here? >> well, it's a public comment but he really didn't say anything. he seems to be more of a public relations issue than anything
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that carries legal weight. he said i told the truth, he didn't really say anything beyond that. he's implied that he's gotten death threats or he's afraid for his safety, and we have heard those stories in the past couple of weeks, that he is concerned about his safety. but we still don't know the timeline. we don't know what happened the night that michael jackson took the drug, the propofol or the other drugs, what dr. murray's role was, what he was doing, why it took him so long to call 911. we really don't know anything. >> ann, it struck me that if these are your first public comments, you don't even mention michael jackson? you don't even mention how sorry you are that the guy's dead? >> unbelievable, mike. that's exactly what i was thinking. here's the man in the mirror, talking about the king of pop. i'm sorry he's dead. he was my dear friend. none of that. he says oh, don't worry, i'm fine and i'm just speaking to all of you, my parentients. by the way, he didn't have any patients. he only had michael jackson. not sure who he's talking to.
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it's bad on a lot of levels. finally when he talks about himself, this can be used as michael jackson in his own trial, in the sexual abuse trial, i say this case or this tape could be exhibit a in a potential manslaughter trial. >> go on with that. how so? basically, he didn't say a lot in the sense of, well, what he didn't say, he didn't mention michael jackson, so that's where you're going to take this if you're a prosecutor. >> what he also didn't say, he said i've told the truth and done everything i'm supposed to do. you know what, he's not supposed to be giving anesthesia in someone's home. and leaving and not monitoring the patient. and having -- prescribing to a drug addict. now he's also said he didn't know he was a drug addict. it just gets worse and worse for him. i think in an open mouth, you want to insert your foot in your mouth. a closed mouth gathers no foot is what i was going to say. i get so excited about this. jim knows me on these things. i think it's so bad on so many
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levels. >> go ahead, jim. >> the thing that really, anne has really touched on something, i think. there's a level of detachment here that i think the undercurrent is really disturbing, because let's face it, this has been a major story for the last, what, two months, and this is the first thing that we're hearing. no regrets, no oh, my gosh, you know, i'm working with law enforcement to find out what happened to michael jackson, i didn't know that he took various drugs, this, this and this. we're not hearing any of that. he didn't mention michael jackson and you're right, mike, he said don't worry, i'm fine. well, he's not the person we're all concerned about. we want to know what happened the night michael jackson's last night on earth. we want to know, was this man responsible, did he fall asleep, did he give him too much medication, did he not monitor michael jackson. what went on. and why. >> there you go. let's get a call in. lois is with us in massachusetts. your comment or question here? >> caller: hi, mike. yes, i think that anybody that
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didn't know that michael jackson was on drugs was really, really living in la la land because you could tell by looking at him at various times all through the court -- >> talking about the molestation trial, right? did we lose her? >> caller: no, i'm here. >> what do you think of what murray said? >> caller: i think he did give him something. i don't know what he gave him. but nobody has oxygen tanks in their home unless they are deathly ill. >> thanks for the call because we had heard the chef for michael jackson had made mention, we talked about what was the routine like. she told cnn's larry king that pretty much every morning, conrad murray would come down with the oxygen tanks and then the morning of michael jackson's death, that was not the case. guys, we will take a quick break. much more on this coming up. we are also finding out when and
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where michael jackson will be buried. we are getting confirmation on that this time. we will take more phone calls at 1-877-tell hln.
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we have a special guest for our next hour of prime news. hln's nancy grace is going to join me. we'll be talking about the debut of her novel, "the eleventh victim." it's in stores now. she will also take your questions on the book, cases she covers, we cover here as well. you want to call in on that. we will take your calls on this conversation as well, talking about michael jackson's personal doctor, conrad murray, laying out a one-minute youtube
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statement, basically thanking his supporters. couple folks diving in on facebook. i want to get those comments out there. john on facebook writes this, if i was him, talking about dr. murray, i would keep my mouth shut. the only thing he really needs to say is guilty or not guilty. how about this from melissa, also on facebook. he has no supporters. he just wants us to know he didn't do anything wrong. that's to anne's point. he doesn't have any patients. let's hit the phones. everyone wants in. tracy's with us in california. go ahead. >> caller: hi, mike. thanks for taking my phone call. as a former vet technician as well as having two eight and a half hour back surgeries, couple two-hour back surgeries, i take 2400 micrograms of medication, as well as six walks through the day. you've got to be very careful. this doctor is unaccountable and irresponsible in selling out the medication. >> thanks for the call. anne, i mean, sources have even
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come out to say he has admitted he gave propofol. to give propofol in a home setting, is there any way he's not in trouble for that alone? >> zero. i hate to quote a michael jackson song again, it's black or white. it's as clear as the day is long, you do not use it outside of a surgical arena. all experts say that. the indicated use is not for sleep. so why did he come on on videotape on youtube and say he's done nothing wrong when in fact, he's clearly done something wrong by all accounts and by all analysis. >> exactly. jim, he's saying at the end there i told the truth, the truth will prevail. if the truth is you gave michael jackson propofol at his home, the truth is going to damn you. right? >> and i'll tell you a big problem. you listen to anne bremner, she's a defense attorney. listen to what she's saying, she's saying this guy has problems. i have worked with anne for a long time and she's out there saying well, wait a minute, you could use this defense and this defense, and unfortunately, in this case, he's backed himself into a corner. he's apparently told authorities that he did give michael jackson
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propofol. he could say, i suppose, anne, maybe back me up on this, that maybe he had so many other drugs in his system that he wasn't aware of, so the propofol wasn't the sole cause. that may be what's causing investigators some difficulty right now. >> that's his best defense, isn't it, anne? >> absolutely right. jim is fantastic and a fantastic lawyer. >> you guys like each other. >> we do, very much. we go way back. but the thing is that yeah, he's like jim said, they're going to say multi-drug abuser and i didn't know it. that's what he said publicly through his lawyer. therefore, there's no proximate cause. in other words, this is an addict, once an addict, always an addict. died an addict. >> carol is with us in nevada. hi, carol. >> caller: i want to say something to anne. anne, i don't think you know all the facts. he did have patients. i was one of them. >> okay. >> caller: michael jackson doid on thursday. i was to have surgery on monday. i trust this man with my whole heart.
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with my whole heart. he -- he did not just do anything frivolously. he checked everything. he rechecked everything. and whatever might have happened with michael, i know that dr. murray's heart is in the right place. i know he's a good christian man. >> can i ask you a question? >> caller: yes. >> if he gave michael jackson propofol, which should only be given in a hospital setting, does that disturb you at all? >> caller: i don't know if that's a fact or not. i'm talking about me. >> right. okay. >> caller: i'm going to tell you something, this man is a good christian man, and i do know he has not been able to get anything to his people out here, that we're his patients that believe and trust him. thank god he made whatever, you know, you guys did today, because he couldn't call us. he is a very good man. >> all right. >> caller: i believe michael
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jackson had him there because he was a good man. >> all right. anne, i'll let you respond. >> thank you. we have heard so many comments about what a wonderful man he is and oftentimes, people can make mistakes. we don't know yet. he's innocent until proven guilty but the other part of it is when i say he didn't have patients, it's because he left his practice to be the private doctor for michael jackson. that was my reference, more limited. but bless you for calling in and supporting him. we have heard many great things about him. >> yeah. we'll see how this turns out. i'm sure, carol, we lost carol there. but as we are talking about, it's 100% across the board, every doctor we have talked to, jim and anne, you guys are agreeing with the doctors, he give diprivan and propofol in a home setting, wrong, that's irresponsible and that's the starting point. always great talking to you guys. we'll talk again soon. coming up, the desperate search for kristi cornwell continues. she was abducted in georgia. three states are involved. the last words to her boyfriend
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on the cell phone as she sees someone approaching from a vehicle, please don't take me.
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welcome back. new this hour, three states on alert in the hunt for a kidnapper and a missing mom. georgia, north carolina, tennessee all now immersed in this mysterious case. kristi cornwell swept up as she walked along a country road. the overtaker was bold. she was on her cell phone talking to her boyfriend. he hears a struggle and these terrifying words, don't take me. that was a week ago today. police now scouring neighborhoods, even questioning hundreds of sex offenders in the area. we'll take your calls, your questions, your theories on this. 1-877-tell hln is the number. we welcome john bankhead with the georgia bureau of investigation. john, welcome back. first off, give us the latest. any new leads in the search?
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>> we are still canvassing the neighborhoods around where the abduction occurred, talking to people at home that might have some new information for us. we are collecting those leads and putting them through our data base, then assigning them to agents to follow up on. the fbi's now involved. they had agents up here today so we are getting help with their resources, because the issue of crossing state lines, it is a kidnapping and so their resources are now assisting us and the county in this investigation. >> let's paint the picture here. when we say three states, in the blairsville, georgia area, it borders closely with tennessee and north carolina, right, john? >> right. right. the north carolina sheriff's department is involved in this investigation, they have been down to georgia. they have been working with us,
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helping us with the sex offenders in that county and that's just north of union county. then tennessee borders not too far away from here and if you go down to the end of the road where the cell phone was found, if you take a right, you go to north carolina. if you take a left, you could go into tennessee. so we are working with tennessee authorities as well, to interview approximately 180 sex offenders in the counties bordering georgia. >> wow. you mentioned the phone. do you know anything else about that phone call with her boyfriend? what was said, anything else you can glean a clue off of? >> well, we have interviewed the boyfriend and talked to him to get as much information as we can. we haven't released any specific details about what that interview contained. we do know that the call was made by the boyfriend in atlanta. that's where the cell phone connection was made to the tower. so you know, as far as his involvement, there's been a lot
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of questions about that, but he's pretty much been ruled out. >> okay. so he's in the clear. any physical evidence from the phone, dna, anything? because the folks who found it handled it as well, right? >> right. well, the people that found it, they were cutting the grass, they had lost a cell phone. they thought it was theirs, and so they opened it, turned it on, saw the battery was low and then saw enough information to realize it belonged to kristi and immediately called the sheriff and gpi to come look at it. >> okay. she has three ex-husbands. have those gentlemen been checked out? >> as you would with any missing persons case, you interview everybody in her inner circle, family, friends, people she worked with, and so far, we have not developed a suspect in that regard, and so it appears based on what we know so far that it's likely somebody familiar with the area that might not have known her. >> okay.
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we had also mentioned that she's a former probation officer so obviously she might have dealt with shady characters through that. any leads drawn from that? john? we lose john? i think we did. we would like to thank john bankhead, he's been keeping us posted on this for the georgia bureau of investigation. i'm sure we will talk again with john. we have about 30 seconds before the break and we'll talk further. what are you seeing here, pat? what are you zoning in on as you look at this case? >> one of the most difficult problems is she was in the middle of essentially nowhere, where any car coming by could grab her and go any direction. we actually don't know which direction the car went. it could even drop the phone and turn around and go some other way or it could be a very smart predator who knows you cross state lines and you cause trouble. i'm glad we have all of these people working together. >> pat and i will continue our conversation after the break.
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welcome back to prime news. in just about an hour, my hln colleague, nancy grace, will join me to talk about her first novel, a murder mystery, a real page turner. if you have a question for nancy about the book or some of the stories we cover, fire away. the number, 1-877-tell hln. nancy joining me at 6:30, just about an hour from now. all right, a mysterious lack of leads in the case of a missing 5-year-old boy with cerebral palsy. police in oakland, california say they have received less than 50 tips in hasanni campbell's disappearance. we will continue to follow this for you. let's bring in richelle carey with more. less than 50 tips for this little guy. sounds pretty unusual for such a high profile case.
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he has been seen in two locations. give us an update. >> it is unusual. this is what police are doing. they're hoping a $10,000 reward, that that will break this case wide open. there has been ground searches, air searches, nothing has turned up. still, hasanni's family not giving up hope. listen to this. >> if you want to help, keep our son in the news. don't let him become a picture on a milk carton that you never find. you want to help, that's what you do. >> ross is engaged to hasanni's aunt. he told police he left the boy near the entrance to a store where she works in oakland, california and says when he came back to the car a few minutes later, hasanni was gone. ross told detectives he left the child alone. he went to go unlock a door at the store. he says he left him alone because it can be hard for hasanni to maneuver with the
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braces he has on his legs. picture that. that cute little child right there. kind of helpless. >> we had a lot of questions yesterday. i know we will keep everybody updated. thanks for that. now this. new video, a group of minneapolis police officers caught on tape beating a man back in february. we're about to show you the video. we have to warn you, it is difficult to watch. here we go. this is in february, during a traffic stop. he's pulled over for speeding, going 15 miles an hour over the limit. police say he was not cooperating, got out of the car and that's when the struggle began with officer walker here, he's having a tough time, finally the tackle. you see him, it's back and forth, his pants are practically falling off. then back up comes and that's when you see, you look at multiple officers here, they've got the guy down, then more police officers coming in. you are going to see some punches thrown, watch this guy here. all of a sudden, it's field goal practice for that guy. a couple kicks. you wonder, let's face it, when
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we watch this, it looks excessive to us and we have our experts that are going to help us through this one here. the fbi is looking into it, what do you think? do you see excessive force? call in. 1-877-tell hln is the number. want to bring back anne bremner, she's defended police officers in the past, cases like this. and also with us, michelle suskauer, criminal defense attorney. before we get started, i want to hear from two sides. we will hear from darryl jenkins, the man who was beaten, and also police officer and we will take it from there. let's listen. >> all i remember was getting out, getting thrown down and feeling the punches. >> our officers respond to resistance and obviously, officer walker wasn't getting cooperation from the onset. >> anne, let me start with you. the respond to resistance. personally looking at the tape, i know the tape doesn't tell the whole story sometimes, but in
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this case, i'm not seeing resistance. i'm not seeing the guy even raise his hand to punch anybody. what do you see? >> i agree. clearly, the later arivals are the ones i'm really concerned about, because a lot of what they're doing with the kicking and everything else when they hadn't seen what the suspect had been doing looks to be excessive force. but even from the beginning, officers can use as much resistance as necessary to overcome resistance or take someone into custody, and it's a matter of force. their force can be higher and should be higher than that which they are confronted with. here, you don't see a lot of resistance. he's a pretty big guy and sometimes it takes a few more than just one officer to take somebody down, but it doesn't look it but we have to hear all the stories here. i heard they had to cuff him with two sets of cuffs. that usually means they can't get the hands behind him or he might have been too large. those are things to look at, too. was it too hard to get him under control. you couldn't cuff him normally and it took a lot of officers, with a lot of force, which could well be excessive. >> here's the statement. here's the statement from
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minneapolis police. i have reviewed -- this is specifically minneapolis police chief tim dolan saying i have reviewed the videos of the arrest of mr. jenkins by officer walker. hand-to-hand fighting with a suspect on the street is one of the most dangerous encounters for police officer officer walker's actions all appear to be very appropriate. it goes on to say some of the actions of responding officers specifically the kicking of the suspect, give me concern because of this, i'm asking for an outside review by the fbi. michele, as you look at this, and that statement cuts in half. the first officer, officer walker, are you okay with what he did and obviously, seems like everybody has a beef with the responding officers after that. your thoughts? >> well, you know, officer walker really, you know, we did not see any resistance that seemed to be necessary to throw this guy down into the snow. again, officer walker is going to say something different but those dash cams, interestingly, they are not just to protect the police but to protect the public as well. it seemed like him jumping on top of this guy and basically
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almost pulling his pants down, his pants falling down, seemed a little bit excessive to me. i think it was interesting that they did bring the fbi in, because his actions as well as obviously the other responding officers, the additional officers, need to look at as well. but i don't know whether -- certainly it's not as bad as the other officers who are kicking, who are doing multiple tasings but that officer still needs to be looked at, obviously. >> we know he was stunned with a taser three times. we saw the kicks. let me get anne back in. do you agree with the statement there? are you okay with officer walker but then you really have concern with the follow-up officers? >> i would say yes. i think that obviously, the object of any police struggle is for the officer to survive. number one, they are taught number one is safety. officer's safety. that is number one. so when you're dealing with someone that won't get out of the car, that's offering resistance, then you do use some force and he didn't use more than what appeared to be appropriate in the beginning of this. but the kicking and everything else later on, it just looks to
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be excessive. but you've got to look at the e picture. everything before the tape, everything after, and make a decision. finally, the fbi being involved, it's good to have outside agencies. it's a good thing. >> we will take a quick break. i want to take your calls. what are you seeing out there? are you seeing excessive force or not? are you okay with the officer at first, then really have a problem as the other officers come in? call in, 1-877-tell hln.
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welcome back to prime news on hln. this is an arrest that happens, you can see by the date there, february 19th. darryl jenkins pulled over, accused of going 15 miles an hour over the speed limit and as we watch this here, officer walker said he was not being cooperative, thought he smelled alcohol and he said that darryl jenkins got out of the car, so that's why he took him down. we're asking you what you think.
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did you see excessive force here? because when the other officers come in and you start seeing the punches and the kicks there, you're thinking this is one guy and six or seven officers are doing this. we're taking your calls. 1-877-tell hln. johnny is with us in georgia. what are you seeing there? >> caller: yes, i think they should have used the taser. i don't think it should have been excessive force. >> they stunned him with a taser three times. so that's a good point there. stunned him three times. i think the kicking is just, and the punching, that's what gets all of us. let's get jany in from tennessee. your thoughts? >> caller: disgust. i am a white 48-year-old male and i'm wondering why it would take six or seven officers to subdue this man. they weren't on the scene two seconds before they made a judgment to start punching this man. they need to be fired, they need to be sued and drug out in the woods and beat like a pack of wild dogs. how professional trained men do something like that to another
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human being that at first glance, and i know maybe there will be an investigation, it does appear he does nothing. if he steps out of the car, most police officers would tell him to turn around and put his hands on his head, not throw him to the ground. i think it's disgusting. >> thanks for the call. anne, that's another concern we're talking about one man and six or seven officers were in on this. >> absolutely. your caller had excellent points about dragging him into the woods, that aside, the thing you have to look at with these officers is they don't know if he's armed yet or not. until he's cuffed, they see him as potential risk. the other thing about it is that when you have more officers, you're supposedly using less force. that's something the officers are taught. so just the number doesn't bother me but the kick, the other things, hands, fists and feet are okay with use of force for the polic but not the way they were used here, especially at the end of the film. >> michelle, let's get back to basics. with him being taken down, are you okay with that? >> well, you know -- >> that portion of it? >> what was he doing? he was speeding. okay?
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was he eluding police? was he being reckless, did he commit some violent act? no, he was speeding. if we take the officer's word that he said that this gentleman, mr. jenkins, wasn't getting out of the car, well guess what, call for backup. i have someone, i have detained him, i can even draw my gun on him, he's not getting out of the car. then you can deal with him. but to take him out and then take him down that way, you have to look at, go back and see what did he do, allegedly. and what he did was he was speeding. that's it. >> we know he was charged with fourth degree assault, resisting arrest. >> they dropped it. >> all charges dropped here. >> absolutely. and he spent a couple days in jail as well. >> four days in jail. >> they will absolutely be a lawsuit, if not a state lawsuit, then definitely in federal court against these officers, against the department and there should be. >> guys, thanks so much. michelle, anne, we appreciate it. coming up, the mayor of milwaukee attacked, beaten, sent
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to the hospital. he's recovering after trying to break up a domestic dispute. >> it cost him physically and emotionally. he lost some teeth as a result of it. but he did the right thing. >> he did do the right thing. a grandma was calling for help, wanted someone to call for 911. this mayor stepped up and paid a heavy price.
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welcome back. sometimes we do stories about politicians. come on, they disgust us. sex scandals, corruptions. not today. today, it's a story about a politician doing the right thing. mayor of milwaukee, tom barrett, he was leaving the wisconsin state fair over the weekend when he walked into a dangerous confrontation, tried to help and ended up in the hospital. here's erica hill from cnn.
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>> reporter: until this weekend, most of the questions surrounding milwaukee mayor tom barrett's future had to do with whether he's planning a run for governor. that all changed after the mayor was attacked late saturday night while trying to help a woman and her granddaughter. >> reporter: one of the people who heard the woman's call was mayor barrett, heading to the car after spending the evening with his family at the wisconsin state fair. but he didn't make it home that night.
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>> reporter: that bleeding man was mayor barrett. >> tom stepped up and did the right thing. he called 911 and tried to calm the situation, protect the grandmother and her grandchild. as a result of his actions, tom was attacked and struck repeatedly with a metal object. >> reporter: an emotional john barrett on sunday, outside the hospital where the mayor was being treated. on monday, he gave cnn more details about the attack and how his brother ended up laying on the street in a pool of blood. >> the individual, after he knocks the phone out and stomps on the phone, says you're not calling. he says i have a gun and i'm not afraid to shoot everybody here, and then tom's kids start to cry, so tom says to my sister, you know, get the kids out of here. >> reporter: but the mayor stayed and took a punch in the gut that doubled him over. he came up swinging and
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shattered his hand. when it was all over, the mayor had also lost some teeth. had to have plastic surgery for cuts on his face and according to his brother, also stitches in the back of his head. tonight, the mayor is home recovering. and a 20-year-old suspect arrested on sunday is behind bars. the little girl's grandmother tells cnn they're both fine while john barrett is both proud and relieved. >> i'm just glad that he's okay. he's my brother and i love him, and i'm just glad that he's okay. >> reporter: this story has obviously been getting a lot of attention. a number of people have come out and commended the mayor for his efforts on saturday, including the president, who called the mayor yesterday afternoon, said he wanted to make sure he was on the mend. again, commending his bravery, saying he went above the call of duty, noting he was proud of his selfless act of courage. >> he really did. politician stepping up to do the right thing. quite a story. let's talk about the suspect. any charges so far? >> reporter: not yet. we're expecting charges to be filed this week but they are mum exactly on what the charges will
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be or what the date will be they'll filed. >> here's one thing that tonished me. the suspect's family, are they chiding the mayor for stepping in? >> reporter: well, it's stepping in? >> i guess it's open to interpretation. the suspect's older brother spoke to a local affiliate in milwaukee and said basically that the mayor in his opinion should never have stepped in, should have backed off, that this was simply never would have happened if the mayor hadn't gotten involved. he said his younger brother, the suspect simply wanted to see his daughter. he doesn't feel he gets to see his 14-month-old daughter enough and went on to say he didn't think his brother would have been arrested had it not been the mayor who was attacked. if was some other person attacked and beaten up, he feels he won't have been arrested. >> beg to differ. su beat up a guy with a metal pipe, you're going to be arrested. the suspect, criminal record? >> he does have a little bit of a criminal record. right now he's being held on some other charges and other
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warrants not necessarily related to this as they figure out the charges in this case. there is a prior record there. >> how about the mayor, when is he going back to work? >> interestingly enough, late this afternoon i got word from his office he's going to hold a press conference tomorrow. we should get more detail tomorrow 11:30 a.m. local time. he's home now. he was supposed to be on vacation this week. normally he would check in with his staff every day. he is still the mayor. no one else has stepped up. he's working on a limited basis from home. >> i don't mean to be a cynic, but if there's an election tomorrow, this guy's winning. political stock's up. when we get a politician ready to lay it on the line like that, we're all in favor. >> a lot of people were wondering whether or not he would run for governor. yesterday the governor of wisconsin said i'm not going to seek a third term. apparently, the mayor was joking to his brother in the hospital saying i'm sorry i stole his thunder taking all the front page.
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>> breaking news on the michael jackson case. the man at the very heart of the death investigation is speaking out for the first time. this hour, we will hear from dr. conrad murray as he breaks his silence and addresses his supporters. plus, in the studio this hour, hln's nancy grace and her latest accomplishment, fiksz writer. novelist here to talk about her new book, it's a page turner, "the eleventh victim."" we'll get her take on stories we talk about as well, casey anthony, michael jackson, as well.
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she's one of the best legal minds around and she'll take your phone calls. that's coming up in a little bit. call in on these top picks, 1-877-tell-hln. you can e-mail us or text us at hlntv. just start your message with the word prime. it's your chance to be heard. >> this is hour number two of "prime news." i'm mike galanos. new video just coming into us from the man at the center of the michael jackson death investigation. dr. conrad murray, personal physician to the king of pop speaks to his supporters in a one-minute clip on youtube. give it a listen. >> i want to thank all of my patients and friends who sent such kind e-mails letters and messages to let me know of your support and prayers for me and my family. because of all that is going on, i'm afraid to return phone calls for use my e-mail. therefore, i recorded this video to let all of you know that i
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have been receiving your messages. i have not been able to thank you personally, which as you know, is not normal for me. your messages give me strength and courage and keep me going. they mean the world to me. please, don't worry. as long as i keep god in my heart and you in my life, i will be fine. i have done all i could do. i told the truth, and i have faith the truth will prevail. god bless you. and thank you. >> all right. there he is, dr. conrad murray recent basically his first public comments since the death of michael jackson. we're taking your calls 1-877-tell-hln. back with us to talk about it, jim moret, chief correspondent for "inside edition" an attorney former cnn anchor, anne bremner, defense attorney, former prosecutor and sat in on michael jackson's molestation trial.
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ann, let me start with you on this one. i'm somewhat baffled by it. what's the goal here? help me out here. >> i guess it's to make people don't worry. i'm fine. the goal as sim said very aptly before is public releases that i'm a nice guy. you've been writing to me. thank you so much. and you know, i'll be here and thank you for your support. that i think is the goal. it's like the don't worry tape which he should be worried about because it's all about him. he wants to talk about himself some more. it's not about michael jackson. the man is dead, the man everybody wants to know about the circumstances of his death and it's about telling the truth, telling the about using propofol may put him in the hot seat for man slotter. >> jim, that's a point we have to make again. your first public comments and not one word about michael jackson, no remorse, he was -- nothing. nothing. >> i think you have to be careful if you're his lawyer. you don't want him to necessarily express remorse or
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admit any guilt. you know, i've been thinking about this since last hour and watching this tape a couple times. i do think there is one possible positive out of this. that puts a public positive spin and a face to this person who's been vilified over the last two months. and you see a man there who looks like a decent guy, maybe a good doctor, maybe a nice man. he didn't say he did nothing wrong. he said he's told the truth. and i think ann's write. it's a mistake in so many levels i think for this man to come out and say anything. i think he should listen to his lawyer, let his lawyer speak for him, deal with authorities and be trough with authorities but this isn't a pr ploy and shouldn't be used as such. he didn't say anything of any legal consequence. >> okay. i still stick to the point that you got to mention michael jackson. not to admit any guilt or anything. >> i agree. >> to say you miss him and
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you're sorry. vickie is with us in missouri. go ahead. >> caller: hi, mike. >> hey, vicki. >> caller: i just wanted to say i wasn't impressed at all with this dr. murray today. and the other question i have, mike, is why -- where is this person that made the 911 call? why haven't we heard anything about them? do you think that somebody would have been up there with him, what was going on. >> i'd imagine and let's hit on that real quick. jim, whoever made the 911 call, authorities are talked to this person. we may not know who it is exactly. >> that's my understanding but you've go the a bigger problem than that. that is according to the chef, she saw the doctor run downstairs possibly 15 minutes before that call was made screaming for prince michael, michael's son. if michael jackson himself was in distress 15 minutes earlier, why the heck did he wait another 15 minutes to call 911. >> a couple of great points. another call. tammy is with us in ohio.
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>> caller: thank you for taking my call. my opinion is i really think this is a failed attempt to, one, maybe try to humanize him a little bit, look like he's a human being and also to make it look like he really cares about his patients. i think like i said, a fatal attempt to do so. i can't contact you by phone, i can't contact you by e-mail making it look like he really cares about his patients when i don't think he does. >> anne, she's kind of hitting on the point that jim made. yes, we hear from him. we hear his voice. and it's a calm tone. do you see anything positive out of this at all, anne? >> i love jim and agree with everything he says and i think he's fabulous. all things jackson too, jim, you know. i think yeah, he's human. we see him and he's calm and he seems like a nice man and he seems thoughtful and also said he was a christian man. all those things could sell. but the fact of the matter is
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what he doesn't say is what may be the most important at the end of the day and how this film or video comes across, especially in a courtroom. >> alicia is chiming in on facebook. here's what she says. it didn't feel real. what truth did he tell? he should be sorry for what happened. didn't feel real. jim, do you think this is a lawyer that scripted this out for him? >> you know, i don't know. i'll tell you the big problem. this is what we know is real. michael jackson died under this doctor's care. that is an inescapable truth, whether he did something wrong or not, maybe up to ultimately a jury to decide but we want to know what happened. >> well, put, jim. we're going to take a quick break. we'll take more of your calls on dr. murray's statement and when and where michael jackson will be buried. call in, 1-877-tell-hln is the number.
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>> don't forget, 20 minutes away, bottom of the hour, we have a special guest on "prime news," hln's very own nancy grace is going to join me to talk about the debut of her novel "the eleventh victim."" a real page turner. she'll take your questions about the book, also some of the top cases she covers every story, stories we cover as well on "prime news." call in 1-877-tell-hln is the number. you can call in on this story as well as we continue with michael jackson, his personal doctor, dr. conrad murray the center of the death investigation. he goes out and gives a youtube clip, a one-minute clip basically thanking his supporters. he's fearful he can't get back to them. that's the impetus saying he told the truth and the truth
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will prevail. judy writes this -- think he'll be looking for financial donations soon to pay for his defense? thanks for supporting me. any chance you can lend me a couple of dollars for my defense? judy having a little fun at dr. murray's expense. we have our experts standing by, jim moret and anne bremner join us as we wrap up that portion of it. jim, do you think something's coming down that we're hearing from him now? >> i think he certainly thinks something's coming down. i think the autopsy report is in. we know that authorities are trying to get more details, maybe lineup some whites, maybe grant immunity to certain people. depends on where they are in their investigation, how many drugs are involved. this doctor's best defense might be that he didn't know how many drugs michael jackson was taking. but we do know that he had some serious money problems. that's one of the reasons he accepted the $150,000 a month job from michael jackson. >> yeah.
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another call, julia is with us in ohio. >> caller: how are you? >> good. your thoughts here? >> caller: yeah, i just wonder, you know, what ethical doctor would, you know, agree to do what he did, he admitted to do if he's so sweet and kind instead of taking the man and getting him help, taking him to rehab, contacting his family and telling him no, i won't do this for any amount of money. >> that's it. at the end of the day, he may have come on in a minute segment as a nice guy. at the end of the day, anne, the caller's right. >> the hippocratic oath, first do no harm. this is a personal doctor at $150,000 a month. like jim said, michael jackson's dead and we want to know why. the fact is he had exclusive care of michael jackson injecting himself with dem ral or not or being administered the
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propofol/diprivan ethically at minimum, there are huge issues. >> a couple other topics i want to hit on. michael jackson's burial, he's going to be laid to rest on his birthday, august 29th. any more details? >> yeah, it's not the same location where his body is now. it's at a forest lawn about 15 miles away. beautiful place. it's in glendale. the mausoleum where he's going to be laid to rest has replicas of michelangelo's paintings on the roof and ceiling rather and a beautiful last supper recreation in stained glass. it's a beautiful place. it's a fittinging place for him. and it's clearly where the family wants to put him to rest. >> okay. wendy is with us in california. hi, wendy. >> caller: how are you? >> good. >> caller: good. i just wanted to make a comment about dr. murray's speech. >> yeah. >> caller: it seems really rehearsed. he seemed like he was probably reading a teleprompter or something. and he never mentioned michael.
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basically, he was talking about himself and his supporters, i don't know who that's going to be. half of the western hemisphere is pretty ticked off about this. >> anne, as we look back at this, is there any way this one minute could hurt him down the road. >> absolutely. talk about me some more. he's going to be put in front of a jury to say here's a guy that may have probably did take the life of the king of pop, somebody so many adored as your caller said, half the hemisphere for two-thirds and he's only talking about himself. >> exactly. all right, guys. let's leave it there. jim moret ann bremner. i'm sure we'll talk to you soon. come up, this story we continue to follow. we want to know what happened to kristi cornwell, mother of a 15-year-old taking her nightly stroll near her parents' home, last heard on the cell phone talking to her boyfriend. last words the boyfriend heard,
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please don't take me. we'll get you updated on this search. stay with us.
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welcome back. new this hour, three states on alert in the hunt for a kidnapper and a missing mom. georgia, north carolina, tennessee all new immersed in this mysterious case. kristi cornwell with abducted while walking alone on a country road. this in blairsville, georgia. cornwell was on her cell phone talking to her boyfriend. he hears a struggle and these terrifying words, don't take me. that was a week ago today. police now scouring neighborhoods and questioning hundreds of sex offenders in the area. we'll take your calls, your questions, your theories on this, 1-877-tell-hln is the number. we welcome back john bankhead with the georgia bureau of investigation. john, welcome back. first off, give us the latest. any new leads in the search for
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kristi? >> we are still canvassing the neighborhoods around where the abduction occurred talking to people at home that might have some new information for us. we are collecting those leads and putting them into our database, and then assigning them to agents to follow up on. the fbi is now involved. they had agents up here today. so we are getting help with their resources because the issue of crossing state lines. it is a kidnapping and so their resources are now safetying us in this investigation. >> let's paint the picture here. when we say three states in, the blairsville, georgia, area, it borders very closely with both tennessee and north carolina, right, john? >> right, right. cherokee county, north carolina, sheriff's department is involved in this investigation. they've been down to georgia. they've also been working with us and helping us with the sex
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offenders in that county and that's just north of union county. and then tennessee borders not too far away from here. and if you you would go down to the end of the road where the cell phone was found, if you take a right, you go to north carolina. if you take a left, could you go into tennessee. so we're working with tennessee authorities as well to interview approximately 180 sex offenders in the counties bordering georgia. >> wow. you mentioned the phone. do you know anything else about that phone call with her boyfriend? what was said, anything else you can glean a clue off of, john? >> well, we've interviewed the boyfriend. and talked to him to get as much information as we can. we haven't released any specific details about what that interview contained. we do know that the call was made by the boyfriend in atlanta. that's where the cell phone connection was made to the tower. so you know, as far as his involvement there's been a lot of questions about that, but
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he's pretty much been ruled out. >> okay. so he's in the clear. any physical evidence from the phone? dna, anything? because the folks who found it, they handle it had as well, john, right? >> well, the people that found it they were cutting the grass, they had lost a cell phone. they thought it was theirs and so they opened it, turned it on so the battery was low and then saw enough information to realize that it belonged to kristi and immediately called the sheriff and the gbi to come look at it. >> okay. she has, kristi cornwell, three ex-husbands. have they been checked out? >> as you would with any missing person's case, you interview everybody in her inner circle, family, friends, people she worked with. and so far, we have not developed a suspect in that regard. and so it appears based on what we have so far that it's likely somebody familiar to the area that might not have known her.
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>> okay. we'd also mention that had she's a former probation officer. oh obviously, okay, she might have dealt with shady characters through that. any leads drawn from that, john? >> did we lose john? sounds like we did. we'd like to thank john bankhead keeping us posted on this from the georgia bureau of investigation. i'm sure we'll be talking with john again real quick. pat, what do you see in here. >> what are you zoning in on? >> one of the most difficult problems is she was in the middle of essential essentially anywhere where any car could grab her and go any direction. they could even drop the phone and turn around and go some other way or a smart predator who knows you cross state lines and you cause trouble. i'm glad we have all the people working together. >> if you have comments or questions, 1-877-tell-hln. ddd
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>> welcome back. you know, so many of the stories we do on this show cry out for justice and the first to sound the alarms many times is my colleague, nancy grace. she is a powerful voice for victims, one of the best legal minds in the country and her no nonsense, common sense approach, would great on tv and translated in the courtroom, as well. she had a perfect conviction record ace prosecutor. now new accomplishment for nancy. something we can all enjoy, now a novelist. here is her new book, "the eleventh victim."" it's a page turner. and it is an honor to have nancy join us now. we're going to be talking about the book, some of the stories we cover. nancy covers as well and we'll take your calls, you know the number 1-877-tell-hln. it's a tremendous book.
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great to be here, have you here by the way. >> it's an honor to be with you. we watch you every day as we're all getting ready for our show. if i could just take ten seconds and say hello to john david and lucy because you're normally asleep when mommy's at work at night and right now you're up watching this show watching mr. galanos. >> they are your pride and joy, aren't they. >> my whole world. i didn't even know what love was. i had no idea. i thought i knew what love was until i had them. >> well, let's talk about that. since you brought up the twins. i'm a dad. i have two, 13 and 10. after the first one, you're thinking how am i going to love number two. >> that's what i thought when i found out i was having twins. i was very concerned. i pythought, all this love and time and devotion that i should give to one chishlgsd how am i going to split that fairly and raise two children at the same
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time when only one should get that. it's not like that. your grows more love. it's not like you're splitting them. you grow a bigger heart i believe. praise the lord. >> let's talk -- that's one thing. there's already a few facebook comments wondering how do you do it. david writes in, how do you manage to write a back, take care of your family, do the nancy grace show. how did you write a book? you didn't have an easy pregnancy. >> no, i had a very tough pregnancy. i chalk a lot of that up to the fact that i was 47 when i got pregnant abdelivered at 48. twins. i had no idea what was happening. i just knew i couldn't breathe. but what the viewers and many people didn't know, i was in a wheelchair the last oh, at least two months of my pregnancy. earlier on, had i broken my foot. i was on crutches for a long time and when i got to where i couldn't breathe anymore, i went to a cheech and my staff would help me out of the wheelchair into the anchor chair and then at the end of the show help me
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out of the anchor chair back into the wheelchair. to try to get home. it was tough. how did i do it? i'll tell you what really happened. when i calm out of the room, i missed trying cases, striking juries, being with crime victims like myself, going to crime scenes, analyzing evidence, making cases that woul't work work. and i missed it so much that i started writing the book. that was way back when in about, see, i left the ho to do the show with johnny cochran in '97 and i started writing this book right after i got out of the courtroom. >> a little off a decade in the making. was there ever a point where you said this isn't going to get done or did you always know, i'm going to finish this? >> no, i always knew at the very beginning what was going to happen at end. i knew. i just had to get there. >> right. >> but in the very end, what happened was, i had written an
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objection, which is much easier to write because it's nonfiction and i would take very cares, high profile and nonhigh profile cases and analyze them. in those, the facts are given to me. i give legal analysis and research. this i had to create every detail. and there was a point at very end, the publisher had asked me to write two haly dean books after they read the first manuscript and right before i signed on the dotted line i said to my husband, do you really think -- i just don't think i should do this. i don't think i can finish the book and take care of the twins. i just can't do them both. the book was almost done. but i didn't think i could finish and be a good mother. this is what i did. when i would get home from work at night and the twins would be asleep i would write till they got up for their first night's feeding at 2:30. >> feeding time, stop writing. >> that's exactly what i would do. and then we would get up at around 5:30 or 6:00 every
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morning, sometimes earlier. but i was so close, it wasn't hard to finish it. >> you were at the finish line. >> just had to get it over the finish line. >> it's written in your voice. >> i don't know if that's a good or bad thing. >> i related.there's the one exchange where it's haily dean. we'll talk about her in a moment. >> don't give it away. >> i'm not giving away anything. >> i think i can reach you. it's early in the novel where haly dean has an exchange with the defense attorney and says, hey, leonard, your client's going to get the chair, you know? mr. sparky, that's nancy grace talk, isn't it. >> sparky, yes, old sparky is what the georgia electric care was named as was from florida. i thought it was original. apparently there are a couple of little old sparkies like that. i would laugh. there were also times that i would tear up. but there were a lot of laughs
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that went into this, especially when you would talk about the judge, judge carter. he's an malgamation of a lot of judges i've known. >> so nobody out there is going to be. >> i'm sure every defense attorney in atlanta goes it's so me. it's not you. it's not but. >> all right. let's talk about haly dean because there are the similarities. the book's hiro in. how much of it is nancy grace. >> very, very loosely based. she was a jump off point. i named her hailey because i always wanted a daughter, no offense john david, because i love you so dearly, i always dreamed if i could just have one child i'd have a little girl i could dress up and i would name her haily after hailey's committee for once in a lifetime. i thought that would never happen to me after keith my fiance was murdered. i thought that dream of wife and
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mother was not meant to be. so the closest thing i could get was naminging my heroine haily. then came lucy. that's where the name came from, haily and i grabbed the first name of my executive producer haily dean. in the book, her fi fiance is murdered as she is studying schooling. she drops her major and all of her life's dreams to become a felony prosecutor and dedicate herself to seeking justice, which is a very hard life. >> all right. we're going to take a quick break. we'll take your phone calls if you want to chat with nancy about the book, some of the stories we cover. nancy talked about some of the similarities. we're going to talk about, was it painful to write at all? more with nancy coming up. stay with us.
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here, little girl. you're going to need these in the big house.
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okay? all that sob bing and crying an carrying on it's all on video. >> they're going to have trouble proving the diprivan connection because you know what, nancy, they're going to be able to prove this case in all likelihood through the lengthy statements that conrad murray has already given to the authorities. >> yeah, what a blabber mouth. >> all right. that is the nancy grace that we see at 8:00 and 10:00 eastern here on hln. it's an honor to have nancy right here with us. >> he is a blabber mouth. posted on youtube. dr. conrad, hint, when you are the target of a federal drug probe, i'm not saying you are a target, i'm just saying if you are a target, dr. conrad murray, don't go on youtube and blab. don't. >> well put. we talked a lot about that one minute talking to his supporters. who are his supporters? i don't know. >> i've got some ideas but it might be slanderous, i'm not
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saying it. michael jackson saga, you know, this is a completely different animal from the child molestation charges. i was very clear that i did not believe that many little boys would get together and create a conspiracy. i think that somewhere in all of that, the little boys were telling the truth. okay? i think they were fondled. next, when i was prosecuting in atlanta, hard-core felonies, i would have to convince certain juries that it's a bad thing to kill a dope dealer. okay? a lot of juries are thrilled a dope deal ser dead. my point is, whether jackson did or did not commit child molestation is now irrelevant in this probe. what matters now is who doped a dope addict till he died likely of a heart attack in front of his own child. who did that? what doctor, what pharmacy what, supplier is responsible for that. >> i got to ask you this since
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we're on the topic of dr. murray. if he gave him diprivan in his home, there's not one doctor that says that's even remotely responsible. isn't he in trouble right then and there regardless of what other drugs are found in his system. >> it is way outside the normal parameters of the normal standard of care which is the term hospitals and medical facilitators use as to the standard by which you are judged. as to whether the care you give a patient is proper or improper. that is completely improper. is it a felony? i don't know because it is not a controlled substance by fda yet. how he got his hands on it, ma that i be illegal. so just the use of diprivan outside of a hospital is not necessarily going to be a felony. but negligent homicide is a felony. >> got you. let's take a call. christi is with us in michigan. your question for nancy. >> caller: hi, nancy.
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this is christi. i love your show. i watch it every night. two hours, i watch the rerun. >> thank you why are you calling him and not me? because you have never called into my show. >> caller: i know. i always get nervous. >> what's your question, dear? >> caller: of all the stories that you have followed, which one has affected you the most? >> you know what? christi, i have been asked that question so many times. and i've got to tell you, i not only me but my staff and they are scattered between new york and atlanta, everybody on that staff wants to fight crime. everybody. everybody cares about these cases. in their heart and soul get so into every case, i can't just pick one. i know that during the disappearance, i don't know if you remember danielle van dam, she was a little girl taken around san diego out in california and we had hoped and hoped and hoped that she would
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be found alive. and her, the discovery of her body she was identified by miby mouse earring. and it just broke my heart that was the only way they could tell who she was is by her little earring. i don't think i'll ever get over that. another little boy you may not remember i covered him on court tv. his name was matthew checky. and the whole family was having a picnic and his aunt took him to the public restroom and waited outside and he went, this is a long time ago, christi in michigan. and a nut job was in there and cut the child's throat while he was in the bathroom and he died. and at that time, i was just an aunt. i hadn't made it to mother sat us yet. from then on, i dragged my little nephews into the ladies bathroom with me which they would go kicking and screaming. i'll never forget the randomness
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of that vi leapt act. those are not necessarily famous cases anymore but two that have never gotten out of my heart. >> it's those details, isn't it, nancy, even when we show the video of little caylee anthony and there's the sippy cup. it breaks my heart. >> her voice. >> yes, with her great grandpa. >> when we do intros or outtros when you're coming back or going to break, i have to take my ear plug out when we play the video where i hear her voice, hear her laugh. it's just so real and poignant and i can't help -- lucy and john david are about to turn two and the thought of anyone harming a hair on their head just is -- i can't even bear to think of it. >> we're going to take a quick break. more with nancy coming up. we'll continue to talk about that. i'll ask nancy, how do we toughen up for lack of a better word or should we or let the
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emotions flow? is that the key to telling these stories and getting them out there. we'll take more of your phone calls, the number 1-877-tell-hln.
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welcome back to "prime news" on hln. it is an honor to have nancy grace with us again. you watch nancy 8:00 and 10:00 eastern. great novel, "the eleventh victim," murder mystery. i want to look at a quote from page 9, and it kind of picks up where we left off boof the break. this is hailey dean, the heroine. prosecutors similar to you, nancy grace. she is talking to the victim's mom and in the book it says haily tried to keep her an impersonal professional tone. the quote that stuck with me is she steeled herself.
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define that for me. what does it mean for you or anyone else to steel ourselves? >> well, you're saying steel as in s-t-e-e-l. harden yourself. block all your emotions and manage to think with a clear thought and speak with a clear head. it is something very difficult to do as a felony prosecutor. i would have behind me eats a row of the victims and serial rapes, serial child molestations, the families of the victims. expecting me to pull the rabbit out of the hat and somehow make everything okay again. which i learned after my very first murder prosecution of a young woman named mary. she was about 20 years old. she had the mind of about an 8-year-old child. she was murdered. and i got that guilty verdict.
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and there was no jubilation. there was no celebration. because when your heart breaks, you can't put your heart back together again. but there was at least the accomplishment of seeking justice. and to speak to a jury with everybody counting on you to pull it out is a very difficult thing. >> the clock is ticking on us. we should have gone a whole hour, nancy. more with nancy coming up. if you get in with your phone call, by the way, you get a free signed copy of the book. so kristy in michigan, we'll get you a free copy. we'll talk about whatever we can squeeze in in three minutes. >> come on. >> more with nancy grace coming up. ddddddddddddddd
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