i can now announce that as of this afternoon, we now have a warrant for the arrest of ryan alexander jenkins for the murder of jasmine. last night, officers from the blaine police department in the state of washington recovered one of the vehicles that we had previously announced. that vehicle is the black 2003 bmw x-5. the white 2007 mercedes benz is still outstanding and we continue to ask the public's support in the assistance in locating that vehicle.

at this time, it is our belief that the suspect has crossed the border into canada, and we are currently working with the royal canadian mounted police in our attempts to locate him. last night, the black bmw was located in the city of blaine, washington, with a boat trailer attached. later, the boat which is owned by ryan jenkins was located in port robert in the state of washington. which is located just south of the canadian border. it is now our belief that he has now crossed the border on foot. >> the fingers and teeth were in it. breaking news tonight. as you just heard from california investigators, murder charges have been filed in the brutal death of 28-year-old jasmine fiore. shocking details emerge. the suspect removing jasmine's teeth and fingers and stuffing her inside a suitcase found thrown away like trash.

tonight, police are hot on the trail of suspect, reality tv star ryan jenkins. jenkins' car and boat trailer found abandoned on the border of the u.s. and canada. good evening. i'm pat lalama. let's go out to john baird. john, a stunning revelation. >> a stunning revelation about the teeth and the fingers being removed from the body. obviously, that's an attempt by ryan jenkins to get himself more time, slowing down the identification of the body. and here he is now in canada. at least the authorities think there's a very good chance that he's already escaped across the border into canada. >> kelly, how do we know what proof -- well, is there evidence that he has crossed the border? is there any?

>> somebody said that they saw the bmw that he owns, they saw someone driving it that looked like him, and then they saw someone suspiciously driving a boat to point robert. so all signs point to this guy being gone. and it's him. now he's on foot into canada. >> we're privileged to have corporal norm massey of the royal canadian mounted police. i believe the border integrity program. this is a case, sir, where time is of the evidence. what are your people doing to try to effect an arrest? >> well, if the person has crossed into canada, he either has to come through a designated port of entry or if he goes around a port of entry and enters unannounced, then he has violated a customs act offense where he has failed to report to the canada borders agency, and therefore that would be the offense in canada. but we haven't confirmed if he is, in fact, in canada or his whereabouts. >> give us the protocol when it is a murder suspect, an american -- or i should say from the united states, a murder suspect. what is your protocol as canadian authorities?

>> well, our protocol is, of course, we have an extradition treaty with the united states. there would have to be a provisional warrant issued for that person's arrest. and that would go -- then go from the department of justice in washington to our public prosecution service of canada in order to effect that -- that warrant. so there is a procedure that is in place to eventually arrest the person and extradite. >> are you getting cooperation from the public? are you getting calls from people? >> i would have to check. i don't know what level of calls we are receiving on this right now. we have issued a public announcement on this. so i would have to speak with the investigators into what kind of response we're getting from the public. certainly people are aware that that person may be in canada. but, again, i -- we can't confirm that yet. >> is it true he may be armed?

>> that's right. at this press conference that just ended, they said that they believed that he could possibly have a gun. they said everyone should assume he is armed and dangerous. >> and what about a -- is there a fairly large bail in case he does get arrested? >> that's right. they announced that if and when he's apprehended, there is a $10 million bail on him. >> pat brown, one of our favorite criminal profilers, this is a real juicy one. what does it say to you that this person allegedly removed teeth and fingers? >> well, like the fact that she was found in a piece of luggage, it indicated to me right away that this was somebody who knew her. because if a serial killer grabbed her off the street, you're not concerned how quickly she's id'd or that she's found. you think they're not going to look at you. they don't know who you are anyway. but when you killed somebody, especially in your apartment, you have to get them out. you want to take off their clothes. in this case, take off her fingers and her teeth. put the body in the suitcase.

one way to get out of the apartment, that's why you put them in a suitcase. and then throw them away. you hope time goes by before they're found and they have no idea who it is and they can't get any evidence to link it to you. >> bethany marshall, we talked about the psychological aspects of this. what does it say to you to do this kind of a thing to a body? >> well, obviously he did not want to be id'd. could you imagine smashing a person's teeth out and cutting off their fingers? this guy had no feelings for her other than rage. but it suggests this was part of a crime of passion, that he was relating to her on the basis of power rather than affection. remember they were at a poker tournament. they were on their way back. something probably happened. he has a -- a history of domestic charges filed against him. he punched her, hit her in april. so probably something happened that destabilized him. another man looked at her, he thought she was flirting, they got in a domestic dispute. it went way too far. it was a crime of passion.

and when he realized he'd gone way too far, he had to find a way for the body not to be id'd so that he could get across the border. this is very different from premeditated homicide where the murderer actually prepares a dump site for the body where the body won't be found for hours or days. this is pretty stupid. he put her in a suitcase in trash outside of apartments where she would be found. >> dr. joshua perper, what does it say to you, and what does that do to investigators' case in an event like that? >> well, what does it say to me is that probably the culprit cut the fingers and took out the teeth in order to conceal the identification. and he hoped that the body would be decomposed. if the body was decomposed, by then the lack of fingers and dental records, dental presence of teeth, would have created serious problems for identification.

but let me tell you that in my fairly long career, i saw many ways of trying to conceal the identity of someone by cutting fingers or hands, by decapitating or mutilating the face, but i never saw somebody who extracted or broke teeth in order to avert identification. you know, but sometimes people think it's worth it. >> john barrett, you know, for people who may not know a lot of the details of this very interesting relationship, can you summarize for us as briefly as you can to give people a perspective of who these two were? >> our understanding was that they met at a strip club. although the mother has said other things about that. we understand they met at a strip club a few months ago, six months ago, and then got married a couple of days later. her mother said her daughter had the marriage annulled and then he talked her into going back into the relationship. also, the police tell us that there was a charge filed against

him in las vegas for hitting her in the arm a couple of months ago. of course, you know, in the past he also had another case against another ex-girlfriend in which he was charged with assault. so basically, they -- they've been having problems and they've only known each other something like six months. >> unbelievable. and, kelly, there is talk of evidence of text messaging that could point to potential jealousy issues or real, in fact, jealousy issues. can you talk bout that? >> yeah. jasmine's ex-boyfriend spoke today. we've heard reports that at the poker tournament, she had texted the ex-boyfriend and then ryan grabbed the phone and wrote something back that wasn't very nice. that text message that she sent may have sent him into such a jealous rage that he went completely loony-toons and killed her in a completely disgusting way. >> allen hepner, jenkins' attorney in the 2005 assault case, what do you know about this guy?

you represented him. how did he appear to you? >> he appeared like all of the other clients i deal with. i don't get emotionally involved. i run the file. he followed by advice. the family followed by advice. they did what i said. they followed my recommendations and i was on to the next file after it finished. so i dealt with him like so many other unfortunate domestic violence cases we have in canada and the u.s. >> i know it's hard to -- go ahead. >> go ahead. >> well, i was just going to ask you, i know you probably really can't speak too much about your clients, but did he seem like a normal person? were there any personality -- interesting personality traits? i mean, describe him for us. >> he was an ordinary guy. he was a designer. he built -- he was a designer in terms of building condos. he was a real estate developer in canada. there was nothing that i could

see that would suggest what the rest of your panel that seems to have him convicted already say about him. but, you know, this was an assault on a girlfriend. he got 15 months' probation with what we call in canada conditional discharge, which means if he completes the terms of the probation issued by the judge, while technically he was convicted of a low-level assault, he really would have no criminal record. that's what the essence of the charge was. so it was -- it was an assault. it was a domestic-related matter. but it was resolved. the reports were good. the letters of reference were good. the support was good. and that was then -- in that sense, it was levied in january of 2007. so he was on probation 15 months thereafter. but i suspect that he completed the entire term or else i would know that there was a breach and then we have a penal statute that would allow the authorities to charge him, which did not happen.

this message goes out to the family, his mother and father, and to the friends that are helping him try to leave this country. ryan jenkins is an animal. what he has done to jasmine is unspeakable.

u.s. authorities have seized this boat abandoned off point roberts, washington. it's a small border town south of vancouver where police received report the man wanted for questioning in the murder of jasmine fiore may have illegally crossed into canada. >> there is, you know, some speculation he may have gained entry on foot at any one point along that bordering area. >> police have been searching for ryan jenkins after the body of his wife was found stuffed in

a suitcase in this trash bin in california earlier this week. >> the zipper was partially open or it had burst open. i lifted up on it and saw that it was a -- a body. extremely small person. >> jasmine fiore married jenkins after meeting him in march. the marriage, though, hit a nasty bump months later when jenkins was accused of hitting fiore. it wasn't his first run-in with the law. in 2005 he was charge would similar domestic assault offenses in calgary, another city police are watching closely. >> we now have an arrest warrant for ryan alexander jenkins. last night, officers from the blaine police department in the state of washington recovered one of the vehicles that we had previously announced. that vehicle is the black 2003 bmw x-5. the white 2007 mercedes-benz

cls-550 is still outstanding and we continue to ask the public's support in the assistance in locating that vehicle. >> nancy grace producer, i keep hearing that he is a man of means, that he's got money. is that true? >> that's right. on the show he was on "megan wants a millionaire" it was reported that he had at least $2 million in the bank. he was a real estate developer, an investment banker. he was involved in building these condominiums in canada. >> you mentioned the show "megan wants a millionaire." of which he was a contestant. we'd like to help find the guy if possible. so if you're watching, take a look at this clip, and see if it's someone in your area. >> i'm with megan alone. it was enough to let her get in touch with my deeper side. and redeem myself for, you know, some of the silly things i said

at dinner. >> oh. we're waiting on my card. >> oh, i hope it's not declined. >> that would suck. >> for you. >> we might have to do some dishes. >> we? i'll meet you at home. just joking. >> don't do that to me. you're cute. >> you're cute. >> so is this the best date ever? >> maybe? >> maybe? >> i'll tell you at the end. >> i don't know if megan and i have had enough time together for her to loosen up and get to know me. >> i feel like you're manipulating me. >> i wanted to show her a little bit of vulnerability to, you know, maybe make her a little more comfortable with me. >> that charming, debonair man is now a murder suspect. that, of course, from vh1's "megan wants a millionaire." 51 minds entertainment said when they brought him on board for the show, they had no idea of any criminal past.

i want to go back to colonel norm mathy. the public's help will be important to you. hopefully people will recognize something. i'm just curious about -- because time is of the essence. what kind of geography are we talking about? is it difficult terrain? residential? where are you looking and how? >> well, along the u.s./british columbia border, there is well over 2,000 kilometers a lot of which is very rugged terrain. but the part that is crossable is heavily monitored by cameras and motion detectors of all sorts. so any detection, any crossing will be responded to by the united states customs and border patrol. >> i'm going to ken henderson, a ceo of best agency. you worked closely with jasmine. we, the public, don't know her. we see the pictures.

we see a young woman who clearly wanted her chance at a good life, fame, fortune, whatever. tell us a little bit about her. >> well, this news is just -- it's getting worse and worse. jasmine, she was -- she just was great. she was exciting to work with. her energy, the smile that you see in her pictures is what you saw always live with her. she was as beautiful inside as she is outside. and it was just a pleasure for our agency to work with her. and also to dispel the rumor -- and i think we would have known about it. jasmine was not a stripper. it just -- we know about those things. vegas is not that big of a place. if they're working for us as an agency, that isn't something that would work for us. i know that isn't true. from what i know of her and my conversations with her, it's not something that she would ever consider. >> ken, was she vulnerable? was she easy to buy into a story

of love and fairytale existence? >> i don't think so. my take on jasmine, she really had her head on straight. it isn't something that somebody could talk her into. she was a tough girl. there will be no stone unturned, and we will look under every rock for him. he needs to understand that he's now officially wanted, that we don't stop looking for him. the men and women of the task force and the various agencies involved will continue to work until we have him apprehended and in custody.

jasmine was a -- was a beautiful person. she was a very caring individual. she loved her family and friends. and a lot of the information that you're seeing in the news is not true. we had a very close relationship for a long time, and she is just a beautiful person. she had a lot going for her. >> that, of course, the ex-boyfriend of jasmine fiore. her most previous relationship,

ryan jenkins, now officially a murder suspect in this horrific case that involves an astounding revelation that her fingers and teeth were removed. i want to the attorneys. susan moss, peter odom, randy kesler. susan, you first. mr. jenkins' previous attorney that -- implied that we're jumping the gun here. go for it, susan. >> first of all, he allegedly put this woman in a suitcase. that's a bad way of packing up your troubles. but i have to agree with that attorney. he said this is just a sad domestic violence case. let me tell you something. it wasn't. it was an assault just like when he was charged with assault of jasmine before this unfortunate event. maybe if we take domestic violence a little more seriously both in this country and in our neighbors to the north, maybe something like this could have been avoided. >> peter and randy, are we jumping the gun on this guy? peter first. >> well, let me tell you something. right now they're building a circumstantial case. things are starting to look

pretty bad for -- for ryan alexander jenkins. but you know what? now is the time to slow it up. it's a circumstantial case. there might be physical evidence. certainly with this kind of a crime, cutting off the fingers, taking out the teeth, there's going to be physical evidence. let's see what it shows. let's not jump the gun. remember that under our constitution, he's presumed innocent right now. and whatever happened to him is going to have to happen in a courtroom and not the court of public opinion. >> right. running away -- running away doesn't mean you're guilty, but running away sticks in your mind. we all remember o.j.'s white van where he drove for hours and hours and hours. why do you run if you're not guilty? in the minds of the people out there watching and the viewers, he's making a -- he's digging a very deep hole for himself. >> bethany marshall, what does this say to you about this guy? on the run, got lots of money, allegedly cut off fingers and teeth. what are we talking about here? >> well, i think -- you know, he has the prior domestic.

then he goes on "megan wants a millionaire." if he's narcissistic, he has this grandiose substructure. he has to compete with other guys and may have destabilized him. he went off the show, sort of with a narcissistic injury. and then he finds this model trying to kind of recoup his self-esteem. it doesn't recoup his self-esteem because she has many friends. other men admire her. and that narcissistically reinjures him and then he strikes out. cock-a-doodle-do.

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in only 10 minutes. (announcer) perdue perfect portions. i can now announce that as of this afternoon, we now have a warrant for the arrest of ryan alexander jenkins for the murder of jasmine. last night, officers from the blaine police department in the state of washington recovered one of the vehicles that we had previously announced. that vehicle is the black 2003 bmw x-5. the white 2007 mercedes-benz cls-550 with paper plates is still outstanding, and we continue to ask the public's

support in the assistance in locating that vehicle. at this time, it is our belief that the suspect has crossed the border into canada, and we are currently working with the royal canadian mounted police in our attempts to locate him. last night, the black bmw was located in the city of blaine, washington, with a boat trailer attached. later, a boat which is owned by ryan jenkins was located in port robert in the state of washington, south of the canadian border. it is now our belief that he has now crossed the border on foot. >> an absolutely stunning revelation about the condition her body was in. i mean, you think you hear it all until you hear this, john. bring us up to date. >> well, the fingers and the

teeth were removed from the body. that was shocking. when they announced that at the press conference, i don't think anybody was prepared to hear that. i certainly hadn't even hurt a hint of that. you heard the gasping in the background, the family members crying. it was awful. basically, again, they're saying that somebody removes the fingers and teeth from jasmine's body. my first thought was this person obviously didn't want her to be identified or identified quickly. so it's a horrible thing. >> but, you know what, it doesn't seem like a very smart move. not that anyone who commits crimes are generally smart people. but he puts the body, the person, puts the body in a dumpster in public hoping it's going to decompose. certainly someone is going to find the body soon enough, and did, without fingers and without teeth. i mean, it's even really hard to say. now, as we know, canadian police, united states authorities are working in unison to try to find this guy, ryan jenkins. we want the public to get involved. of course, do is judiciously and

responsibly. let's go back to that clip we saw earlier from "megan wants a millionaire." >> i'm with megan alone. it was enough to let her get in touch with my deeper side and redeem myself for, you know, some of the silly things i said at dinner. we're waiting on my card. >> oh. i hope it's not declined. >> that would suck. >> for you. >> we might have to do some dishes. >> we? i'll meet you at home. just joking. >> i wouldn't do that to you. you're cute. >> you're cute. >> so is this the best date ever? >> maybe. >> maybe? >> i'll tell you at the end. >> i don't know if megan and i have had enough time together for her to actually loosen up and really get to know me. >> i feel like you're manipulating me. >> i wanted to show her a little bit of vulnerability to, you

know, maybe make her more comfortable with me. >> well, that's the man, ryan jenkins. looks very nicely dressed, charming, debonair. but now he is a wanted man and a man wanted for murder. that's from vh1's "megan wants a millionaire" from 51 minds entertainment, which says they had no idea about his criminal past. allen hepner, i know you think people are piling on with your guy, but, you know, looks can be deceiving. >> i can see that. the optics are bad. he's not around, he's left, there's the speculation that he's back in canada, somewhere in b.c. maybe. maybe making his way to alberta. i understand all that. but the way it's all being said, you know, i mean, those two lawyers you had before agree. i mean, there's due process and there's, you know, flight or the -- the flight from a scene does not necessarily mean you're guilty. i don't know anything about this. i haven't spoken to him, and i won't comment on the case other

than what i'm hearing in the media from your show as well as the -- the paper and the tv media in canada. i'm just saying let's just not -- >> do you feel comfortable telling me whether he admitted to the crime for which you represented him? was it a plea bargain? what was his demeanor and how did he accept the charges? >> well, i can't tell you what him and i talked about. you know, but i can tell you that he pleaded guilty. he was initially charged with -- in the canadian penal code, he pleaded guilty to common assault. and then we argued about the disposition or the sentence by the judge. we obtained reports and letters of reference and some support for him. everything was aired out. and the judge put him on 15 months' probation, a conditional discharge, which is what i talked about earlier. >> right, right. okay. >> so he pleaded to a lesser charge. he pleaded to a lesser charge. >> right. got it. let's get to some callers who have been waiting patiently. the first being rhonda in tennessee. good evening, rhonda. >> caller: good evening.

>> what is your question? >> caller: my question is, okay, he was -- he was a known abuser, right? >> uh-huh, yes. >> caller: okay. then did they not do a background check on him before he went on that "megan" show? and, you know, i mean, if they had, maybe this could have been stopped. >> that's a very, very good question. let's go to ellie. when these contestants try to get on these shows, what's the protocol? don't they check and see if there's a criminal past? >> well, as you mentioned before, pat, this is a production company, 51 minds, that did -- that produced this show. they said they weren't aware of his criminal record. i don't know exactly what kind of background check was done. they apparently weren't aware of it. >> and apparently he fell through the cracks, bethany marshall. we talked about that earlier, right? >> maybe he fooled them. or maybe he's so charming that he was able to fool them.

>> they could have done a background check and found out about his prior domestic. they probably did psych testing and he probably came up with some kind of a personality disorder. instead of then going on and then evaluating his propensity towards violence against women, they may have thought, oh, great, this guy has a personality disorder and the camera loves crazy. because that's what a lot of these reality shows are built upon. it is a train wreck. so if you get the people in the best mental health on these shows, it's not so entertaining. but i think that they had an obligation to do a screening and that obviously was not done. he got destabilized, and he left the show, even readier to offend than he had in the past. >> all right. and just for the record, we don't officially know what his mental state is. so just want to make that clear. but i want to go to dr. joshua perper? what's important for the investigators relative to her body? give us a science lesson here.

>> they're going to do a very extensive investigation. there's no investigation of rape, they are going to investigate that. obviously if his semen is in her vagina, that's to be expected. but this might raise some kind of questions. then they have to look at the body and find out where the strangling marks, if there are any kind of bruises or cuts or any kind of other injuries. and in some cases, they have succeeded by preparing the neck to leave fingerprints of the -- of the strangler. this is rather -- not commonly achieved, but it should be tried. >> i want to go back to the lawyers, susan moss, peter odom and randy kesler. susan, what do authorities need to tie him to this body aside

from the circumstantial? they got in a fight, the marriage was annulled, he was jealous allegedly. what do they need? >> the best would be dna evidence at the crime site, if that, in fact, did happen at his apartment or somewhere else where he had access to. if we can see her blood and his blood somewhere in close vicinity, there must have been a lot of blood when the fingers were cut off and when the teeth were broken. if his blood is mixed with that blood, then you're pretty much home free. >> peter, if this were your client, would you be on the phone with him saying, get your you-know-what back here? >> well, you know, i'd want to talk to him. i'd want to find out what he has to say. i'm probably not going to be advising to turn himself into the police. i mean, you know, also the -- it's up to the canadian authorities to either expel him or up to u.s. authorities to extradite him at this point. the burden is not on ryan jenkins.

i can now announce that as of this afternoon, we now have a warrant for the arrest of ryan alexander jenkins for the murder of jasmine. >> we have reason to believe that he is armed with a handgun. please use caution. we want our brothers and sisters, citizens and law enforcement professionals, to be safe when they take him into custody.

at this time, it is our belief that the suspect has crossed the border into canada. and we are currently working with the royal canadian mounted police in our attempts to locate him. last night, the black bmw was located in the city of blaine, washington, with a boat trailer attached. later, a boat which is owned by ryan jenkins was located in port robert in the state of washington. which is located just south of the canadian border. it is now our belief that he has

now crossed the border on foot. on behalf of those represented here today, and for from all of the men and women of the police department, i would like to extend our sincere and heart-felt condolences to the family and friends. and i can also promise the vigorous and judicious pursuit of justice in this case. >> i'm pat lalama in for nancy grace. there it is, mr. ryan jenkins, now officially charged with murder and the details are getting a little bit sick. each moment goes by. allegedly -- not allegedly, for certain, her body was found without fingers and without teeth. absolutely horrendous. kelly, maybe i've missed it in all the confusion here, but i haven't noticed many family members of ryan, friends, people coming forward saying, hey, he'd never do it.

have you seen anything like that? am i just missing it? >> no, that is interesting. we haven't heard anything from anybody that knows this guy. by the way, we talked about the reality show earlier. these reality shows do such extensive background checks. they do personality checks. if this slipped through the cracks, i really find that kind of impossible. this guy being on a reality show, people know who he is. they're going to find him. he's not going to be able to run for long. >> susan moss, do you think maybe they accidentally on purpose overlooked it? i'm not saying it's for sure, but i could imagine some producer would think it would make for better tv. i don't know. i am probably a cynic. >> absolutely. and maybe the fact that is happened in canada and not in america. i think a clue is in the clip when megan says i think you're trying to manipulate me. that is a key sign for abusers. the fact that she was able to pick it up and the producers weren't, well, that's -- that's leading for a lawsuit for them. >> peter, you got any comment on that?

>> yeah. well, you know, there's things people can point to and say that's circumstantial evidence. let's see some hard evidence. maybe it's there and maybe it's not. let's have the government put its money where its mouth is before we start convicting this person of murder. >> randy? >> well, first thing we've got to do is catch him. i don't know why everyone is getting upset with the tv show. the tv show may be the best way we're going to catch him. he's now well known. people know what he looks like. you can hide for a while, but even eric rudolph who hid in the mountains for years was caught. he's going to be caught, especially in this day and age. he will be caught. the question is how does he turn himself in or how does he make his first appearance? that's what it comes down to in my opinion. >> all right. we do have a statement. because it is important to note that, you know, we can't accuse any television production entity of, you know, allowing this to happen and knowing that he had a history. here's their statement. 51 minds was not aware of ryan jenkins' record when it cast him on "megan wants a millionaire."

obviously, if the company had been given -- let's go to the next screen -- a full picture of his background, he never would have been allowed on the show. 51 minds is investigating what went wrong and taking steps to make sure this sort of lapse never occurs again, and most likely that's the case. we have to take them at face value. chances are -- it's obvious if they allow that to happen, they can get in a lot of trouble. they're not in the business of getting themselves sued. i want to go to our callers who have been waiting so patiently. sheri, are you still with us in illinois? >> caller: yes, i am. thank you for taking my call. >> no problem. >> caller: if jenkins is in canada and when they do catch him, do they bring him back to the u.s. or, you know, how does that play out? >> pat brown, criminal profiler, what is the procedure? >> well, i'm not exactly sure what the procedure is between canada and the u.s., but i do think people are worried about will they -- will they be able to extradite him because of the death penalty issue? canada doesn't like that some

people back here might get the death penalty. i really don't think he's going to get that. it's going to be murder two because he is going to claim that it wasn't premeditated, he went crazy. there is no such thing as a crime of passion. there is only a crime of what you're willing to do should the opportunity arise. this guy was a psychopath. when his little possession not away from him, he wanted to do what he wanted to do to her. that's not a crime of passion. i see this guy as joren van der sloot number two. >> john barrett, have we heard anything from family, from his father who presumably is a very wealthy man? we just talked about that with kelly. what have you heard? >> we haven't heard anything from his family. one thing i should note, not only -- we're talking about circumstantial evidence. we're talking about the fact that he files a missing persons report and then he drives 1,000 miles to canada? they say they found his vehicle. then they say they found his boat. it was registered to him. one other piece of information there, there was a report this

morning that one of his relatives was seen dropping off that boat in the area. now, i don't know if police have confirmed that yet, but i know that during that news conference today, they were emphatic about warning people, and i thought it was directed toward the family, do not help him. you will be charged with a crime as well. >> ellie, have you heard anything about someone cooperating with him, helping him? >> we haven't heard anything about that at this point. not only did the law enforcement officials warn anybody who is aiding or abetting this guy, but we saw a family friend of jasmine fiore who specifically addressed anybody out there who might be helping him and said, you need to know who you're helping. and you need to support us in bringing this guy in. >> ken henderson, who worked with jasmine, i know you speak very highly of her. did you know ryan? >> i did not. in fact, no one in the agency even knew that she was married. i think it was kept very quiet or it was very short. >> but what about the fact that

she did get married in such a whirlwind situation? i'm not making a judgment. we've all made mistakes in our relationships. but did that surprise you when you heard that? >> no. i mean, i didn't know the circumstances. i didn't know how long she knew him or what. so after the fact, i guess maybe it was a little -- seemed a little off what she would have done. but obviously the guy doesn't impress me at all. i heard you guys say he's charming. maybe he just made her feel a little different. >> that may have been facetious. >> yeah. >> anybody that assists him, helps him in any way is also subject to being charged. as aiding and abetting and harboring a fugitive. so i would suggest to anybody out there that is looking to

assist this individual that they don't.

i can now announce that as of this afternoon, we now have a warrant for the arrest of ryan alexander jenkins for the murder of jasmine. >> there will be no stone unturned, and we'll look under every rock for him. >> there you have it. ryan jenkins now officially an alleged murderer and an alleged brutal murderer at that, because authorities are saying this poor young girl was without her fingers and teeth when her body was discovered. absolutely shocking. the callers have been incredibly patient. i want to take one more.

mickey from washington state. hello, mickey. >> caller: hi. i have so many questions. thank you for taking my call. i just want to know when did he find out that he was a person of interest now, because now i'm just like -- i mean, the mayhem that goes on with the fingers and the teeth, doesn't he get a greater charge than a voluntary manslaughter or second degree murder? >> very good question. susan moss, very quickly, different places have different rules about how they charge. can you answer that question for the lady? >> absolutely. there are absolutely going to be different charges because those are different crimes and apparently reality bites. >> peter, what do you think, how is it going to play out? >> first, they've got to get him back into this country. there are two ways that can be done. first of all, the united states can extradite him as long as the united states will guaranty that

it won't seek the death penalty or he can be expelled from canada. >> and randy, i'm going to give you a few more seconds to throw something in there. >> i think we're focusing on the escape, and the escape is not what he gets punished for. he gets punished for the murder, if he did it. >> thank you, guys. tonight, let's stop to remember army first sergeant john blair, 38 years old from georgia, highly decorated. awarded the bronze star, purple heart and national defense service medal. dreamed of digging a lake in his backyard to go catfishing with his grandson. leaves behind wife donna, two children and 4-year-old grandson. thank you to all our guests and you at home for being with us. see you tomorrow night, 8:00 sharp eastern. and until then, have a very good night. nancy, congratulations on your fabulous book. good night, everyone.

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