just in, shocking clues on the accused killer, reality show millionaire, ryan jenkins. cops say he cut off a model's fingers, pulled out her teeth then ran to canada. did he have help escaping? new evidence where rye answer jenkins took his own life. a teacher might have saved his high school from being blown to smithder evens. cops say a teenager stormed into the school and this guy was loaded for bear. ten pipe bombs, a sword, chain saw. we all have that one split second, either we do something about it or we don't. thankfully this teacher did. we love hearing from you. call in, 1-877-tell-hln.

e-mail me at cnn.com/primenews, or text us at hlntv. start your message with the word prime. it's your chance to be heard. 234r7 -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com this is "prime news." we have new details coming in on the man accused in the swimsuit model jasmine muri's gruesome murder. cops found her stuffed in a suitcase dumped in a trash bin. jenkins ran off to canada. he killed himself in a motel room. cops want to know whether jenkins' family is somehow involved. they say a car spotted at that motel matched the description of his dad's silver pt cruiser. was it his father? what about this mystery woman who paid for the room where he took his life? could it even be both? there's a half-sister involved here. what did she know? we'll take your calls,

1-877-tell-hln. joining me to talk about this, jason, reporter for the calgary herald. also with us, anita kay, criminal defense attorney around former prosecutor. jason, let's start with you. we talked a lot about the last couple days about a mystery woman, a mystery blond woman checking jenkins in, paying cash for three days' use of the hotel. who is this person? do we know? >> we don't know for sure. we have what you could call circumstantial evidence. we know for a fact that ryan's father, dan jenkins, here in calgary, owns a silver pt cruiser which matched the description of the vehicle outside the hotel in british columbia. we also know that a vehicle very similar to that one is now 700 miles to the west of us in vancouver, british columbia, parked in the building where ryan's half-sister, alina, now lives. so kind of putting the pieces together, it certainly paints a picture that it may be alina in

some way. but we really don't know for sure. investigators aren't disclosing that. >> do we know if the description comes close to matching that of alina jenkins, his half-sister, the person who checked him into this motel? >> having seen picture urs of her myself, i would say yes. i think you have to take that with a grain of salt. because the motel manager was at first shown a picture of ryan jenkins' former fiancee, and he said, you know, i'm almost positive, 90% sure that's her. and of course, we now know that in fact it wasn't her. she's accounted for and was here in calgary over the time period that this thing took place at the motel in hope. >> but we don't know what the motel employee thought of seeing the picture of alina jenkins? >> not at this point. and it really wasn't an avenue we looked at. >> we don't know if authorities have talked to alina jenkins, do we? >> we're hearing that she has

spoken with authorities. they've spoken with her. whether that's innocuous, you know, trying to get a statement from her, you know, something routine, or something more -- or something more pointed to whether they're investigating her role, we're not sure. they're not saying anything officially. that's just what we're getting through sources. >> anita, if it's confirmed the half-sister checked him into a motel, paid the cash, what kind of trouble could she be in. >> she could be in a lot of trouble, either in california or california. in california, p would be accessory after the fact, because she's basically helping him escape. the problem, though, in california is they would have to extradite her. she's not a u.s. citizen. she's probably canadian. even if they extradited her and convicted her, if she were only given probation, how are they going to monitor her. in this county where this happened, they talk about deportation, so she would likely be deported if convicted.

it's kind of like what's the point in a way. canada would be the better one to go after her. because she helped him get across the border illegally, supposedly, by taking him to this motel. that would be the better jurisdiction in which to prosecute her. jason, whether it's the half-sister, alynn a jenkins, or not, when did whoever helped him come into the picture? do we have any idea of that, the timeline here? >> it's tough to say. just to look at the time line for a moment, jenkins was spotted, i guess, in the water between blaine, washington, and point roberts, washington, on august 19th. now, whether that person -- whoever it was -- comes into the picture at that point and conveys him from point roberts, you know, over a very border area into canada and to hope the next day, we're not sure. but, you know, i think looking at it, and without speaking of this person, and knowing what went through their minds, really

by august 19th, there was already a lot of news coverage about the fact that jenkins was on the loose. so without knowing what he might have said to this person, it's still very conceivable in my mind that whoever it was would have known that he was in trouble. >> let's bring in don clark, former fbi special agent in charge. don, how important is it for us to know who this person is and what kind of help he or she may have given ryan jenkins? >> even though both parties in this thing are deceased, the good thing is they've got to wrap this up in a nice, tidy bow and put this case to rest. it is important to determine just what happened in a case to bring it to its logical conclusion. when you've got somebody coming in in a car, the car fits the identification that they've been provided, then you've got to find out if in fact that person did come in that car. they can do that pretty easily. i suspect the canadian authorities may very well be very close to that car, have their hands on it, because they're going to take fingerprints from inside and

make sure that in fact it was jenkins that was in that car. it is very important for them to resolve this issue. i agree with anita, whether or not california will prosecute or not, will depend on what evidence that she had to do with the crime, which may not be any. >> let's take a quick break. when we come back, we talked about family, the family of ryan jenkins. his mom and dad making statements. we'll let you know what they have to say about their now deceased son. and take your calls, 1-877-tell-hln.

welcome back to "prime news" on hln. continuing our conversation. so many questions still in the death of swimsuit model jasmine at the hands allegedly of her

ex-husband, ryan jenkins, who took his own life in a motel in canada. his mom and dad both giving statements now. i want to read both of them to you. this is from his father, telling this to the "los angeles times." if my son was guilty, he was crazy. he was not the boy we knew. and this from his mom on the "today" show. i think he panicked. my little boy. and we need to protect him even now that he's dead. let's bring back jason van rassel from the calgary herald. what do we know about the family dynamic? was ryan jenkins close to his mom and dad? >> i can't really say too much about that. i would say at least in the case of his father, that does seem to be the situation. at least for a time. his father's quite a prominent architect in our city. and has as well a couple of companies in land development. ryan was in that business himself, involved in a couple of kond min numb projects here in

calgary. in a couple of instances, we know his dad had done the design work for those projects. they were certainly working together. you know, the family's comments in the wake of this betray a closeness as well. the facts coming out are very horrific. as you can expect the family members to, they're still in disbelief in defending their son. >> very well put there. and about his real estate work, was that just not fulfilling enough for him? he wanted to be famous, get on all the reality shows? did that become his goal, as you looked at this, jason? >> that seems to be the case. we don't really know a lot about his motivation to go down to the states and do this. i spoke to a friend a few weeks ago that actually had run into ryan back in march. just after he would have married jasmine. and they were just stunned that his life had changed so dramatically in a space of weeks.

so whether the impulsive behavior was a pattern with him, i'm not so sure. but it did take some of his friends by surprise. >> anita kay with us, our criminal defense attorney. you heard jason talk about his impulse behavior. what we believe happened is a jealous rage against his ex-wife. is that what you're seeing, anita? >> this was not a planned killing. there's nothing that says it was. it seems that something snapped. now, whether you would say as an attorney, oh, he's not guilty by reason of insanity is something else. we all look at it and say, obviously there was something wrong with him. because you don't just snap like that. that doesn't happen. but legally was he insane. who knows. we'll never know. what he did after the body -- or to the body after, is just so horrific for us to even talk about. but that says to me that there was a moment of clarity. because if you are that crazed, and that out of it, you don't plan like that.

that was thinking forward. why he did that. there was a motive there. so who knows what his frame of mind was after it happened. >> yeah. and we'll never know. >> exactly. >> mike? >> go ahead, don. >> if i can say real quickly, keep in mind, however, there was a pattern of bad behavior here. >> that's an excellent point. >> when you start having that kind of bad behavior going on, it sometimes escalates itself. i've seen it in too many cases it starts off with a push, a shove, so forth, then you've got something really drastic that happens. when we look at that bad behavior, you've got to believe that, hey, this could have happened now, it may have happened now and it could have happened even before now. >> real quick, don, you make a good point. 2007, convicted of an assault charge against a woman. had to go through anger management courses and charged with battery again this past june for hitting jasmine fiore. the earmarks were there, the red flags were there. never knew it would come to this, though, for shufr. thanks very much, we appreciate it. coming up, this could be

critical evidence in the case of casey anthony. we're getting the first look at a tattoo she got right after little caylee vanished. the translation of this tattoo, the good life. you're getting that tattoo after your little 2-year-old goes missing.

welcome back. a brave teacher risking his own life to protect his school, his students. police say a teenager walked onto campus, pipe bombs, a sword, chain saws. after two explosions. the teacher still had the courage to go after this kid. and save countless lives. we'll take your calls on that, 1-877-tell-hln. we want to hear from you on this as well. casey anthony case. what kind of mother does this. casey anthony goes out and gets a tattoo two weeks after her beautiful little daughter caylee reportedly vanished. and not just any tattoo. there you see the words, bella individuala, on her left

shoulder. it means a beautiful life in italian. are you kidding me? getting inked a beautiful life, while little caylee is missing? one shocker coming out of thousands of pages of documents. prosecutors just handed it over to casey's dream team as they try to spare casey's life. we'll take your calls, 1-877-tell-hln. joining us, stacey kaiser. also producer from the "nancy grace" show, natisha lance. and criminal defense attorney, former prosecutor anita kay. let's look again at the words, what that tattoo may look like. again, bella individuala, the beautiful life there. looks like good ammo to me, isn't it, for the prosecution? >> absolutely. if i was a prosecutor, i would have a field day with this. you've got to be kidding. first of all, she's out and about getting tattooed. if my 2-year-old was missing, i wouldn't be out and about, no matter what the tattoo is. she's out doing these things. we see another photo. then we're getting that tattoo. what does that say? now my life is better now that i

don't have the 2-year-old. as a defense attorney, it's hard to argue, you go with the standard, don't look at their actions, everybody responds differently to grief. but come on, that's one's going to be real hard to overcome or explain. >> yeah. stacey kaiser, psychotherapist. ugly coping, that's would be the only defense here, right? but come on. >> there are a few different stages of grief, and that isn't one of them. what that looks like to me is sociopathic behavior, stone cold heart. somebody who doesn't feel anything. >> natisha, anita alluded to it. little caylee is last seen june 15th. after that, until the 911 call about a month later, what kind of life did casey lead? >> it was june 16th, actually, that she was last seen. investigators believed she died about june 18th. casey anthony said she was a frantic mother, going around looking for caylee. however, we see pictures and now we see this tattoo that says the contrary to that. it looks like she was partying. it looks like she was getting to

get tattoos, starting a relationship with a new boyfriend. this is all things that the prosecution is going to bring up when they have their case. >> you see this, partying, tattoos. she's acting more like a sailor on leave than a mom with a missing 2-year-old. anita, with all that said, is that going to help convict her in court? >> absolutely. because jurors, you know, we're all potential jurors. we all sit there and we look at the individual and we look at their behavior. we expect people to act a certain way. not everybody does, you know, being convicted of a crime, nobody everybody does. but you expect certain things. it is real hard as a defense attorney to come in there and say, hey, my client was out drinking. she was partying. she was getting a new boyfriend. she was getting a tattoo saying the beautiful life while her 2-year-old was missing. that is real hard to overcome. because it goes against the core of everything that we believe in, or that we think is appropriate. >> yeah. facebook comment from lisa writing this, i can't believe she got a tattoo. yeah, she thought her life was beautiful because she didn't

have caylee anymore. there's a potential juror right there, anita, to your point. let's get on a couple other developments, guys. natisha, you covered this, about whether or not the check fraud trial is going to go before or after the murder trial. casey wrote like $800 of -- well, they weren't bad checks, just money from her friend, right? >> that's right. actually, jose baez just filed a new motion on monday. in this motion, he is asking, requesting from the court once again to push this check fraud case after the murder trial. what we see in this document that he filed is the first time we're seeing a date for the murder trial, which is june 2010. he wants that check fraud to be after that. >> i've got to agree for once with baez. the murder trial has to go before the check fraud case, right? >> absolutely. and there's judicial economy. usually you try the most serious case first. that should control. and the reality is, if she's

convicted and she gets the death penalty, is it important to charge her and go to trial on the check fraud? that doesn't mean as much. it doesn't have any meaning anymore. >> exactly. who cares about that at that point. natisha, the bounty hunter bailed out casey anthony. had real access to casey and the family. is his testimony going to be alouded in or not? >> this was one thing argued in court last friday. we haven't heard from the judge yet. we should hear sometime this week. >> guys, we'll have to leave it there. appreciate it.px coming up, an expert who has dealt with crime scenes for decades. says this is the most horrific he's ever seen. female pastor of a small oklahoma church, repeatedly stabbed. who would do this. what's the motive. we'll take your calls, 1-877-tell-hln.

welcome back to "prime news" on hln. sexting, it's wrong, it has to stop. the young kids, sending naked pictures of themselves via cell phone to the boy friend, girlfriend. what do we do about this? who should stop this? what kind of punishment is going to sink in? should the schools take the lead? a couple school districts in houston are. we'll talk about that. what about lawmakers, what do they do? we'll lay all that out for you. what you think the best solution is, call in, 1-877-tell-hln. now, this. talk about heroic. split-second, all it took for a teacher to stop his school from being blown up. just look here. at this picture here. cops, guns drawn. on the other side of your screen

a 17-year-old suspect. he's accused of storming into a high school, san mateo, california, strapped to him a weapons arsenal. ten pipe bombs, a sword with a two-foot blade, a chain saw. cops say this kid had already set off two pipe bombs. students, teachers, all ran away. but english teacher ran toward the blast. >> the type of vest that he had on is what is referred to as a tactical vest with a lot of pockets. so i see that he has this type of vest on. he's running towards people, instead of towards safety. so that kind of made me a little bit kind of weird about what the kid was doing. i kind of decided to -- i closed the distance and put him in a bear hug, then i decided to kind of flip him and put him on the ground, and that's when the thinking came in, i thought to myself, if i'm wrong, i'll apologize to his parents later. and if i'm right, then i'm going to hold this kid down.

>> there you go. thankfully he made that decision. there's the kid. cops say 17-year-old alex youshock was angry with school leaders. he'll be charged as an adult, serious charges, including attempted murder. we'll take your calls on this, 1-877-tell-hln. back with us, psychotherapist stacey kaiser. also joining us henry lee in the san francisco chronicle. i'm calling this teacher a hero, many others are as well. what could have happened? how bad could it have been if he hadn't acted? >> according to authorities, alex youshock could have well detonated up to ten pipe bombs he had on his person. sources tell us he also intended to use a sword or chain saw to kill any students who were not already maimed or killed by the blast, mike. >> it was bombs first, then whoever was left standing he was going to come at them with a chain saw and the sword. stacey, i've got to bring you in on that.

this just sounds brutal, ruthless what was going on in a 17-year-old's mind. >> this is obviously a child who's had a history of problems before. i can't help but wonder somebody had warning signs. this usually comes from agitation, and depression that hasn't been managed. so it comes out in this aggressive way. >> what's a red flag for this? stacey, as we look at this, try to learn from it? >> the red flag is you want to look for teenagers who are either isolating themselves, or who are obsessing on violent acts, whether it's online or on television. and seeming to not be able to pull themselves away from them. >> got you. let's listen to kennet santana, the man who tackled this dangerous kid and saved countless lives. he's talking about, we have the question, if he was sitting right here, we would say, what were you thinking? here's what he was thinking. >> it was a reaction. it was really quiblg. there wasn't -- after i had my hands on him, i made the decisions about what i wanted to

do. but the clothing, the distance and grabbing the young man, there wasn't a lot of thinking involved in that. >> just reacting. stacey, what clicks for somebody? because some will do what he did, and do the heroic thing. others will run. >> right. some people are born with it, ú and some people learn it.ú it's that fight-or-flight ú response. he's fighter.úú i want to encourage your ú viewers, you should know who yoú are, so you know how you will manage a situation. if you don't like the way you're going to handle it, you can learn to go the other way. >> good point there. let's go back to henry lee. henry. we kind of gave a thumbnail, this kid was angry with school leaders. what else can you tell us about his motives? >> we are learning today he had a specific grudge against a chemistry teacher and a security aide. he was apparently -- left the campus a couple years ago. today he was charged as an adult. with attempted murder and a host of felony explosives charges. he had some kind of a grudge,

whether it was real or perceived, we're still looking into that. >> he was going to a different school, just to be right? >> right. either that or an online internet school. >> greg's with us in ohio. greg, your comment or question? >> caller: yes. i'd just like to personally thank the man that tackled the kid and stopped what could have been really, really horrible. i think he deserves a medal of honor. he steps way above what is required of him. >> he certainly did. he certainly did. greg, thanks for the call. henry, what are authorities saying about the actions of kennet here? >> they're absolutely calling him a heroic person who stepped in, saved countless lives. i've also learned since then he's also the parent of a young child. he was also on the cover of a local bay area parent magazine. he downplays any topic. he's a hero he said in his family is his brother who's working in iraq with the

military. >> humility. another trait of a hero there. i want to read a facebook comment here. this is from camilla writing on facebook. how did he get into the school with the bombs? i guess we need to put metal detectors in the schools nowadays. henry, did anybody see this kid prior to setting off the first couple of bombs, notice anything suspicious, or it's explosions and we're alerted to what's going on? >> there was no prior. his chain saw was hidden in a violin case. by all intents and purposes he looked like the average 17-year-old student except that he had the tactical vest on, ten bombs on his person. certainly not your average student in that regard. >> guys, again, here's -- we do statistics all the time. that shock us. here's one that may encourage us. school shooting deaths down from 2003-'04 to '09. sometimes it takes heroic

actions like from kennet santana that stopped what could have been carnage at that school. how about this one. how fearless can someone be, or crazy. a man robbed at least ten banks across four states. he doesn't wear a mask. strolls right in. points the gun. he's got it sideways like he's a video game star here. police have billboards everywhere. when and how are they going to catch this guy? coming up.

welcome back. we have a ser you'll bank robber, got it thumbing his nose at the fbi. he's robbed at least ten banks, four states. kentucky, north carolina, south carolina, tennessee. thankfully nobody's been hurt. you look at him, no disguise, no mask. just whips that gun out. practically showing off the tattoos. the fbi's plastering his face all over billboards.

they want to nail this guy before someone does get hurt. let's bring in richelle carey. are they close to nailing this guy? >> not really, mike. no. i'll tell you why in a sec. right now they're calling this guy the buzz cut bandit. they're just asking for help to figure out who he is. they don't even know who he is. they're not really that close. take a look at him. his last job was in tennessee. police say after the robbery, someone saw him jump into a blue pickup truck with someone else driving. police say he's about 25 years old, 5'9", 5'11", weighs about 175, 200 pounds, somewhere in that range. reddish-brown hair. he's got a goatee. the police put his picture on electronic billboards in eight southern states. no one's been hurt in the robberies, but the fbi still think this guy's dangerous. >> this guy has made no effort to hide the gun. he's threatened the use of it in every bank robbery he's

committed. he's put the gun in the faces of tellers, threatened to use the gun against them, and threatened violence against the bank themselves. certainly we need to get this guy in custody before he does harm someone. >> there's all the reasons that they say this guy is dangerous. if you have seen this man, if you've got any idea who he might be, this is the number, the police hotline, 423-282-8090. >> okay. richelle, we see this, some we think -- someone has to have seen this guy that knows him. no one's coming forward yet? >> no, mike. they're surprised by that. they're hoping that someone will come forward with some information. an fbi spokesperson admits they are very frustrated, that they think that by now with all this video, all these pictures, that they would have caught him by now. they're just saying, we need a name. we need a name. but they're thinking maybe the reason they don't have a name,

maybe he's actually not from the part of the country where he's pulling off all these robberies. and no one recognizes him. they say it's just a matter of time. matter of time, they think, before they catch him. >> hopefully someone who knows him wherever he's from is watching this program so we can nail this guy. anyone helping him? >> they think there's got to be an accomplice. for a couple of reasons. in at least two of the robberies he's been seen with a blue tooth device and two-way radio. he's got to be talking to someone. also, in the situation, the robbery in tennessee earlier this month, police say they've gotten thousands of tips that they think -- let me back up before i get to that. they say the robbery in tennessee, that they had got in a vehicle with someone. they've gotten thousands of tips, but nothing has panned out so far. let's give out the number. they want the tips to keep coming in even so nothing has pan the out so far, 423-282-8090. if you've got a two-way radio

and get in the car with somebody, you've got to be working with somebody. >> richelle, thanks for the update. there's the story we're revisiting, sexting, wrong, stupid for teens to be doing it. sending naked pictures of themselves to the boyfriend or the girlfriend. we've got to do something to stop it. we've got to teach them that this is wrong. what's the wrect consequence? i don't know if we can't to charge our kids with child porn and labeled sex offenders. but what's a happy medium here? we're going to talk to a school district who's laying out an outright ban on this. is that the way to go. we'll take your calls, 1-877-tell-hln.

we know this. sexting has to stop. bottom line is, kids, it can ruin their lives. they could be labeled sex predators for using the cell phone to send naked pictures of

themselves it their friends, boyfriend, girlfriend. school officials in texas have had enough. he's posted an all-out ban on sexting in two districts. different game plan in new hampshire. the lawmakers are trying to protect teens from being charged under child porn laws. yes, there should be consequences for sexting, but should some teenager be labeled a sex offender? big question. what's the best way to deal with this? we'll take your calls, the number, 1-877-tell-hln. we welcome back anita kay, former prosecutor, criminal defense attorney. sarah locker, sex educator, adolescent psychologist. also joins us the assistant legal counsel to the houston independent school district. that's one of the districts that laid out this ban. hans, thanks for being with us. tell us about the ban. what is the ban going to do? some kids get sext message of themselves, get caught. what happens? >> what we did is we added a provision to our code of conduct

to concerns that principals raised when we were reviewing it this year. and what we banned was the possession sending of sexually explicit or indecent photographs on cell phones. and that's what we did. the potential punishment from our perspective, you know, we're not dealing with a criminal aspect of it. is that they could be, you know, could involve talking to the parents, having a conference. it could involve three-day suspension or in some cases referral to a disciplinary alternative education program. >> is that a different punishment than what was already laid out there? stricter punishment because the ban is in place? >> the difference in our policy is we've specifically addressed the issue of sexting. before we could have dealt with it under some more general provisions or sexual harassment. because it was raised and because it was an issue and we've had at least one call this

year from a principal, we just wanted to specifically give students notice that we're not going to tolerate it. >> yeah. that's good. anita, do you like this, that the school has taken the lead? and you like it out of the courts and out of the area where we're looking at criminal child porn garages charges? >> absolutely. the school, whether this particular district is having problems, it's great to be pro-active. and not just reactive and wait until there are problems. so it's good. and it's getting the students to understand, this isn't okay. there are consequences. we want to stop them from doing it before they do it and then have to deal with the consequences. you know, the one issue, though, the school can't monitor these kids at home. when they're off campus.@ so that's where i go back to th parenting to get involved.@ the school is taking the right steps. but where are the parents, too. >> that's a perfect segway to you, sarah. that it starts at home. we have to teach our kids, the

girls, that you're worth much more than your body and the boys that there are guidelines out there, dos and don'ts, rights and wrongs in cases like cases. anita makes a good point. but let me first hit on the ban. do you like the idea of a ban, sari? will that sink in with the kids? >> yeah. i think it is terrific that schools are making policies because this is an issue of our times and schools really should be identifying it specifically. but i think that schools need to do a lot more. according to the national campaign for teen and unplanned pregnancy, we've been talking about the statistic that about 20% of teenagers are sending nude pictures or sexy text messages. but that means that 80% are not. so what we need to do is we need to focus on how schools can teach to that 20% who are vulnerable to this and even to the 80% who is not doing it yet how they can teach in a way tha the adolescents won't be @ interested in getting to do @ this. and i think that@ schools real can intervene.@ so i of course agree that it's  parents. but we're finding that the @

reasons why teenagers do this, mostly teenage girls are doing it to get guys' attention, 85% to get a guy's attention, and they think it's a sexy present or they do it because they feel pressure. so what i'm starting to do is to go into some high schools and work with them in terms of educating their students about dating and about sexuality in a way that they can understand that this is not the way to flirt even though it's the new technological way that people are talking about. there are belter ways for teenagers to let each other know that they might like each other. >> people see this and think, what, 2009, that's the way we flirt nowadays in come on. >> yeah. and that research found that when do people do sext there's an expectation that something more physical will happen had they get together. >> let's take a quick break, guys. we'll take your calls on this, 1-877-tell-hln. what do you think's the best solution in call in.

just in. shocking clues on the accused killer, reality show millionaire ryan jenkins. cops say he cut off a model's fingers, pulled out her teeth so they couldn't identify her. then he ran off to canada. did he have help escaping? now new evidence straight from the motel where ryan jenkins took his own life. and a hero teacher. he might have saved his high school from being blown literally to smithereens. cops say a teenager stormed into the school and this guy was loaded for bear. ten pipe bombs, a sword, a chainsaw. we all have that one split second, either we're going to do something to stop what could happen or we don't. thankfully, this teacher did. call in. love hearing from you. the number, 1-877-tell-hln.

you can e-mail me, cnn.com/primenews. or shoot us a text at hlntv. all you have to do is start your message with the word "prime." it's your chance to be heard. >> controversy, opinion, your point of view. this is "prime news." welcome. this is hour number two of "prime news." i'm mike galanos. all right. new details just coming in on the man accused in the swimsuit model, jasmine fiore's gruesome murder. this case gets more bizarre by the day. cops found fiore stuffed in a suitcase, dumped in a trash bin, without her teeth, fingers. then fiore's ex, ryan jenkins, the reality show millionaire, ran off to canada, killed himself in a motel room. today cops want to know whether jenkins' family is somehow involved. they say a car spotted at the hotel matched the description of his dad's silver pt cruiser. was it his father? and what about this mystery woman who paid for the room we are took his life, paid in cash? who knows what here? we're going to get to the bottom of it, take your calls, 1-877-tell-hln's the number. joining us, jason van rassel,

reporter for the "calgary herald." also with us, anita kay, criminal defense attorney, former prosecutor. don clark also joining us, former fbi special agent in charge. let's start with you. what do we know about the car seen there at the moat snl is it jenkins's dad's or not? >> i guess what we can say at this point is dls strong circumstantial evidence that would lead us to believe that. the police not saying anything. they aren't confirming what we reported. but i can tell you what we do know. for one we know that daniel jenkins, ryan's father, owns a 2001 silver pt cruiser that matches -- certainly matches the description of the vehicle found at the -- seen at the motel. we also know that that vehicle has disappeared from the garage underneath his condo here in calgary after being parked there for an extended period of time. then we know that a silver pt cruiser with an alberta license estimate now parked in a garage underneath the vancouver condominium of ryan jenkins's

half-sister-a lena, and about 700 kilometers -- miles, rather, to the west of us in vancouver, and that vehicle, while we haven't made the entire link and closed the loop, it does match the description of a vehicle seen by witnesses right down to the tinted windows. >> what about the description of his half-sister, alina? did anybody get a good look at the mystery blond? i guess if she paid cash there was a straight up look. >> well, the manager of the motel had initially been shown pictures of ryan jenkins' former fiancee and had told the media at that time he was 90% sure that she was the mystery woman. we now know that not to be true. i've seen a picture of alina jenkins, and certainly in a general way, you know, she does fit the description. as far as going back to the motel owner, given how unreliable his initial information was, it really didn't seem like a worthwhile exercise to return to him and show him alina's picture.

>> got you. anita kay, criminal defense attorney, as you look at this, if the half-sister has some involvement, even paid for the motel room, what kind of trouble is she in? how are we going to sort through that? >> well, she's definitely in trouble and could be in trouble. i think the canadian authorities are the better ones to make a decision as to how much trouble she's going to be in because everything we're hearing, the help was given once reiner jenkins entered into canada. for her to get in trouble here in california you're talking about extradition. when people are convicted and they're not u.s. citizens, they get deported. there's so much more involved that it's probably not necessarily the right thing to do. after all, he is dead at this point. but in canada, absolutely, i think that they should go after her. maybe they would have caught ryan a couple days earlier if she hadn't been helping him. >> don, how important is it for investigators to talk thoer at this point? >> i think it's crucially important for the investigators to talk to her. and i know that the american authorities and canadian law enforcement authorities have

always had a good relationship, and i suspect that they will be working together to try to talk with this young lady. i've got to say, though, it's going to be -- it has to be a real detailed investigation here, mike, because they've really got to find out what she really knew about what activities that her brother had been involved in here to be able to give some good information to a prosecutor if they want to indict her or charge her with anything. >> got you. guys, we'll get a call in. rie hannon's with us in tennessee. >> caller: it's me. what's up? >> not much. >> caller: okay. i have a motive kind of. >> oh. okay. >> caller: i watch these reality shows like "megan wants a millionaire" all the time. okay? >> so you watched him in action? >> caller: yes. i watch it all the time. and on those reality tv shows, because they said that he made it to the finals, and on all those tv shows, whatever, that people make it to the finals-n an episode right before they bring in their exes like ex-girlfriends, ex-wife, whatever. and i just wanted to know if they brought the model onto the "megan wants a millionaire" show

at the end as long as his ex is -- maybe she's like he's abusive or anything like that. >> okay. he did not marry jasmine fiore until after the show had finished taping. they married in march, and the show was already finished taping. they met in las vegas a couple days later. that's when they got married. so she wasn't in the picture. but there is an ex-fiancee that we know about, and we also know that back in 2007 he was charged and convicted of assault, had 15 months probation, anger management courses. so don, we've talked about that. you know, we look at this, and you see the flashy smooth operator on this show, real ladies' man, but there's a root there of anger and rage in this guy, right? and we know it. >> absolutely, mike. you know, and this is not an isolated case. we often have a habit of seeing these activities take place, seeing this type of behavior take place, but we just sort of ignore it until something as

tragic as what happened to fiore takes place, and then you say oh, i saw that. but before it happens is when we have to get a handle on this. and i think investigators will probably go back to and at least try to talk to all of those people and get a better picture of who this person was, if for no other reason than for them to be able to close the book and maybe solve some other crimes for them. >> when we come back, we'll take again a look at this guy as he operated on that show, "megan wants a millionaire." real smooth operator. we'll look at that. and also let you know what his parents are saying. what mom and dad are saying after their son is found dead, hanging in a motel.

welcome back to "prime news" on hln. continuing our conversation, we want to know motive when we talk about ryan jenkins, accused of killing his ex-wife, jasmine fiore, then ultimately took his own life at a motel in canada. did his half-sister know anything? is she the one who paid in cash for his motel room? we'll take your calls in this. 1-877-tell-hln. we mentioned this guy, what he was like on the reality show. let's take a look. again, this is ryan jenkins on the show, vh1 show "megan wants a millionaire." and here he is laying it on pretty thick with megan hauserman. >> you're cute. >> is this the best date ever? >> maybe. >> maybe? >> i'll tell you at the end. >> i don't know if megan and i have had enough time together for her to actually loosen up and really get to know me. >> i feel like you're manipulating me. >> i wanted to show her a little of vulnerability too maybe make her a little more comfortable

with me. >> there you go. she felt manipulated. he's playing the vulnerability card. wow. anita kay, as you watch, that what do you think unfolded here, anita? i mean, obviously this guy is selfish, or was selfish, and do and say whatever to get whatever he wanted, right? >> right. there are a lot of issues going on because we have the prior domestic violence. then there seems to be a whole change in career and now he wants to be on reality tv. and you don't know what's going on inside. and shows like this, it's kind of win at all costs. so you really don't get a sense of who the person is and who they really are. and then he all of a sudden goes and gets married. there's a history of domestic violence with jasmine. there was a couple months prior to this. and it seems like his life has just changed dramatically and it's escalated and just gotten out of control. >> yeah. let's bring back jason van rassel, reporter "calgary

herald." jason-v you spoken to any of his friends? talking about a guy who's doing real estate in canada to a guy who's soaking up the spotlight in los angeles and marrying jasmine fiore. >> yeah, we don't really have a clear picture why he made that move. i spoke very shortly after he was declared a person of interest and when he was still alive and on the run, and friends were shocked that he was suspected of committing this murder and said that they -- the one guy i talked to actually had seen him as recently as march, very shortly after his marriage to jasmine fiore and said a lot of friends were really surprised at the seemingly abrupt change in his life, the whirlwind romance leading to a marriage, and couldn't believe it. and i asked this particular friend, i said, well, what did you think of it? and he said it certainly seemed impulse and out of the blue, but who aim to judge? you know, sometimes people just click. >> speaking of that, let's show that video if we have it of -- it's ryan jenkins poolside with his then new wife jasmine fiore,

and you mentioned it, jason just mentioned it, the impulse. i mean, he's theman happiest guy in the world. leslie, do we have that? okay. still digging for it. let's go for it. >> love you, babe. luckiest guy in the world. >> here you go. how could you go from that, poolside, to murdering jasmine fiore, cutting off her fingers, pulling out her teeth? it's unbelievable. laurie's with us in wisconsin. hi, laurie, your comment or question here? >> caller: hi. >> hi, laurie. >> caller: i've been following this case all along, and i was wondering if anyone's discussed the fact as to whether ryan grew up in a home where there was no respect for women. i'd really like to know how his dad treated his mom. >> hmm. jason, do we know anything about the home life? his father's remarried, correct? >> we know of three marriages.

there's the first marriage was to a woman named nada antic, who lives now in vancouver. and that's ryan's mother. >> okay. >> there's another marriage after that to a woman named -- >> jason, we've got to run. so three marriages in there. we'll keep following it.

welcome back. a brave teacher risking his own life to protect his school, his students. police say a teenager walked onto campus pipe bombs, a sword, chainsaw, and after two explosions the teacher still had the courage to go after this kid. and save countless lives. we'll take your calls on that. 1-877-tell-hln. want to hear from you on this as well. casey anthony case. what kind of mother does this? casey anthony goes out and gets a tattoo two weeks after her beautiful little daughter caylee reportedly vanishes. and it's not just any tattoo. there you see the words "bella

vita." it's on her left shoulder. it means a beautiful life in italian. are you kidding me? getting inked, a beautiful life while little caylee is missing? this is just one shocker coming out of thousands of pages of documents. prosecutors just handed over to casey's dream team as they try to spare casey's life. we'll take your calls. 1-877-tell-hln. joining us, psychotherapist stacy kaiser. also with us, producer from the nancy grace show, natisha lance, and criminal defense attorney, former prosecutor anita kay. anita, let's take a look again at those words, what that tattoo may look like. again, la bella vita, a beautiful life there. sounds like good m.o. to me, isn't it, for the prosecution? >> absolutely. if i was the prosecutor i would have a field day with this. you've got to be kidding. first of all, she's out and about getting tattoos. i mean, if my 2-year-old was missing, i wouldn't be out and about no matter what the tattoo was. you know? so she's out doing these things. we see in other photos. and then she's getting that tattoo. what does that say, my life is better now that i don't have the

2-year-old? i mean, that's what it says to me. and as a defense attorney it's hard to argue. you go with the standard don't look at their actions, you know, everybody responds differently to grief. but come on, that one's going to be real hard to overcome or explain. >> stacy kaiser, psychotherapist, ugly coping. that would be the only defense here, right? but come on. >> yeah, i mean, there are a few different stages of grief, and that isn't one of them. what that looks like to me is sociopathic behavior. it's a stone cold heart, somebody that doesn't feel anything. >> natisha, anita alluded to it. what was casey doing? little caylee is last seen june 15th. after that, until the 911 call about a month later, what kind of life did casey lead? >> well, it was june 16th, actually, that she was last seen. investigators believe she died about june 18th. now, casey anthony says she was this frantic mother, she was going around looking for caylee. however, we see pictures, and now we see this tattoo that says the contrary to that. it looks like that she was

partying, it looks like she was going to get tattoos, she was starting a new relationship with a new boyfriend. and this is all things that the prosecution is going to bring up when they have their case. >> you see this, partying, tattoos. she's acting more like a sailor on leave than a mom with a missing 2-year-old. anita, with all that said, is that going to help convict her in court? >> absolutely. because jurors -- you know, we're all potential jurors. we all sit there, and we look at the individual, and we look at their behavior. we expect people to act a certain way. now, not everybody does. you know, being convicted of a crime, not everybody does. but you expect certain things. and it is real hard as a defense attorney to come in there and say hey, you know, what my client was out drinking, she was partying, she was getting a new boyfriend, she was getting a tattoo saying "the beautiful life" while her 2-year-old was missing. that is real hard to overcome because it goes against the core of everything that we believe in, or that we think is appropriate. >> facebook comment from ilisa writing this, "i can't believe

she got a tattoo. yeah, she thought her life was beautiful because she didn't have caylee anymore." there's a potential juror right there, anita, to your point. let's hit on a couple of other developments, guys. natisha -- and you've covered this, about whether or not the check fraud trial is going to go before or after the murder trial. what casey wrote, like $800 of -- well, they weren't bad checks. they were just money from her friend amy highs enga, right? >> right. and actually, jose baez just filed a new motion on monday and in this motion he is requesting from the court once again to push this -- the check fraud case after the murder trial. and what we see in this document that he filed is the first time we're seeing a date for the murder trial, which is june 2010, and he wants that check fraud case to be after that, in november 2010. >> okay. anita, i've got to agree for once with baez. the murder trial has to go before check fraud trial, right? >> absolutely. and there's another thing called judicial economy, which is usually you try the most serious case first. that should control. and the reality is if she's

convicted and she gets the death penalty is it important to charge her and go to trial on the check fraud? that doesn't mean as much. it doesn't have any meaning anymore. >> exactly. who cares about that at that point? alast one, real quick, natisha, leonard padilla, the bounty hunter, bailed out casey anthony, had real access to casey and the family.xx is his testimony going to be allowed in or not? when are we going to get a ruling on that? >> we're still waiting to hear on that. this is one of the things that was argued in court on friday last week. we still haven't heard from the judge yet but we are waiting. we should hear sfiem this week. >> guys, we'll have to leave it there. appreciate, it zwras, natisha, anita. coming up, an expert who has dealt with crime scenes for decades says this is the most horrific he's ever seen. female pastor of a small oklahoma church repeatedly stabbed. who would do this? what's the motive? we'll take your calls. ñññoa

welcome back to "prime news" on hln. sexting. it's wrong. it has to stop. the young kids sending naked pictures of themselves via the cell phone to the boyfriend, girlfriend. what do we do about this? who should stop this? what kind of punishment's going to sink in? should the schools take the lead? a couple school districts in houston are. we're going to talk about that. and what about lawmakers? what do they do? people in new hampshire taking action. we'll lay all that out for you. want to hear from you what you think the best solution is. call in, 1-877-tell-hln is the number. now this. talk about heroics. split second. that's all it took for a teacher to stop his school from being blown up. just look here. at this picture here. cops, guns drawn, and on the other side of your screen a

17-year-old suspect. he's accused of storming into a high school, san mateo, california, strapped with him a weapons arsenal. ten pipe bombs, a sword with a two-foot blade, a chainsaw. cops say this kid had already set off two pipe bombs. students, teachers all ran away. but english teacher kennet santana ran toward the blast. >> the type of vest that he had on is what is referred to as a tactical vest, with a lot of pockets for things. so i see he has this type of vest on. he's running towards people instead of towards safety. so that kind of made me a little bit kind of worried about what this kid was doing. so i just kind of decided to -- i closed the distance and put him in a bear hug. and then i decided to kind of flip him and put him on the ground. and that's when the thinking came in, i just thought to myself-f i'm wrong, i'll apologize to his parents later. and if i'm right, then i'm going

to hold this kid down. >> there you go. thankfully, he made that decision. there's the kid. cops say 17-year-old alex youshock was angry with school leaders. he'll be charged as an adult. serious charges, including attempted murder. we'll take your calls on this one. 1-877-tell-hln. back with us, psychotherapist stacy kaiser. also joining us, reporter henry lee from the "san francisco chronicle." henry, as we look at this, and i'm calling this teacher a hero, many others are as well, what could have happened? how bad could it have been if he didn't act? >> well, it's very clear that according to the authorities alex youshock very well could have detonated up to ten pipe bombs that he had on his person. sources are telling us that he also intended to use the sword and a chainsaw to kill any students who were not already maimed or hurt by the blasts, mike. >> wow. so it was bombed first and whoever was left standing he was going to come at them with the chainsaw and the sword. stacy, i've got to bring you in on that.

i mean, this just sounds brutal, ruthless what was going on in this 17-year-old's mind. >> this is obviously a child who's had a history of problems before, and i cannot help but wonder if anyone saw any warning signs because there had to have been there. this usually comes from agitation and depression that hasn't been managed. and so it comes out in this aggressive way. >> what's a red flag for this, stacy, as we look at this and try to learn from it? >> the red flag is you want to look for teenagers who are either isolating themselves or who are obsessing on violent acts, whether it's online or on television, and seeming to not be able to pull themselves away from them. >> got you. okay. let's listen again to kennet santana, again, the man who tackled this dangerous kid and, again, saved countless lives. he's talking about -- you know, we have the question if he was sitting right here we'd say what were you thinking? here's what he was thinking. >> it was a reaction. it was really quick. there wasn't -- after i had my hands on him, i made decisions about what i wanted to do.

but the closing the distance and grak the young man, there wasn't a lot of thinking involved in that. >> just reacting. stacy, what clicks for somebody? because some will do what he did and do the heroic thing.@ú others will run.ú >> right. some people are born with it, ú and some will learn it, and it' that fight or flight response. he's a fighter.ú and i want to encourage your @ú viewers, you should know who you are so you know how you will manage a situation, and if you don't like the way you're going to handle it you can learn to go the other way. >> got you. good point there. let's go back to henry lee. henry, we kind of gave a real thumbnail. this kid was angry with school leaders. what more can you tell us about his motive as to why he wanted to do this? >> we are learning today, mike, that he had a specific grudge against a chemistry teacher and a security aide. he was a -- apparently left the campus a couple years ago. today he was charged as an adult with attempted murder and a host of felony explosives charges. sew had some kind of a grudge.

whether it was real or perceived, we are still looking into that. >> and he was going to another school, right? >> that's right. either that or an online internet school. >> greg's with us in ohio. hey, greg, your comment or question? >> caller: yes. i'd just like to personally thank the man that tackled the kid and stopped what could have been really, really horrible. i think he deserves a medal of -- medal of honor. he steps way above what he was required of him. >> he certainly did. greg, thanks for the call. henry, is there -- what are authorities saying about the actions of kennet here? >> they are absolutely calling him a heroic person who stepped in, saved countless lives. i've learned since then that he's also the parent of a young child. he was also on the cover of a local bay area parent magazine. he downplays any talk that he's a hero. he says the only hero in his family is his brother, who's working in iraq with the

military. >> yeah. humility, another trait of a hero there. i want to read a facebook comment here. this is from camellia, writing on facebook, "how did he even get into the school with the bombs? i guess we need to start putting metal detectors in the school nowadays." henry, do we know, did anybody see this kid prior to him setting off the first couple of bombs, notice anything suspicious, or was it explosions and then we're all alert to what's going on? >> there was no prior warning, mike. we do know his chainsaw was hidden in a violin case. so by all intents and purposes he just looked like the average 17-year-old student except for the fact they later learned he had that tactical vest on, ten bombs on his person, all those weapons on him. certainly not your average student in that regard. >> okay. guys, again, we do statistics all the time that shock us. here's one that may encourage us. school shooting deaths down from 2003-04 to 2008-09 from 49 down to 12. that's a good thing. sometimes it takes heroic actions, like we saw from kennet

santana, to stop what could have been real carnage at that school in san mateo. henry, stacy, we appreciate it. how about this one? how fearless can someone be? or crazy. a man, he's robbed at least ten banks across four states. he doesn't wear a mask, strolls right in, points a gun. he's got it sideways like he's a video game star here. police have billboards everywhere. when and how are they going to catch this guy? it's coming up.

welcome back. we have a serial bank robber so daring, i mean, the guy's thumbing his nose at the fbi here. this guy, never bothers to cover his face. there we get a clear look at him. he's robbed at least ten banks, four states. kentucky, north carolina, south carolina, tennessee. thankfully, nobody's been hurt. but you look at him. no disguise, no mask. just whips that gun out. practically showing off the tattoos. the fbi's plastering his face all over billboards. they have to. want to nail this guy.

before someone does get hurt. let's bring in our "prime news" correspondent richelle carey. are they close to nailing this guy? >> not really, mike. no. and i'll tell you why in a sec. right now they're calling this guy the buzz cut bandit. they're just asking for help to figure out who he is. they don't even know who he is. so no, they're really not that close. take a look at him. his last job was in tennessee. police say after the robbery someone saw him jump into a blue pickup truck with someone else driving. police say he's about 25 years old, 5'9", 5'11", weighs about 175 pounds, 200 pounds, somewhere in that range. he's got reddish-brown hair and a goatee. police have put his picture on electronic billboards in eight southern states. no one has been hurt in any of the robberies, but the fbi say they still think this guy's dangerous. >> this guy has made no effort to hide the gun. he's threatened the use of it in every bank robbery that he's

committed. he's put the gun in the faces of tellers, threatened to use the gun against them, and threatened violence against the bank themselves. so certainly we need to get this guy in custody before he does harm someone. >> so there's all the reasons that they say this guy is dangerous. if you have seen this man-f you have any idea who he might be, this is the number of the police hotline. 423-282-8090. 423-282-8090. mike. >> okay. because i mean, richelle, we see this, and we think someone has to have seen this guy that knows him. no one's coming forward yet? >> no, mike. and they're surprised by that. they're hoping that someone will come forward with information. an fbi spokesperson admits they are very frustrated, that they think that by now with all this video, all these pictures, that they would have caught him by now. they're just saying we need a name, we need a name. but they're thinking maybe the reason they don't have a name,

maybe he's actually not from the part of the country where he's pulling off all these robberies and no one recognizes him. but they say it's just a matter of time. matter of time, they think, before they catch him. >> well, yeah. hopefully, someone who knows him from wherever he's from is watching this program so we can nail this guy. anyone helping him? did you mention an accomplice in that, richelle? >> they think there's got to be an accomplice for a couple of reasons. in at least two of the robberies ooez he's been seen with a bluetooth device and a two-way radio. so they think he's got to be talking to someone. also the situation, the robbery in tennessee earlier this month, police say they've gotten thousands of tips that they think -- let me back up before i get to that. they say the robbery in tennessee, that he got into a vehicle with someone. and they've gotten thousands of tips but nothing has panned out so far. let's just give out the number. they want the tips to keep coming in even though nothing has panned out so far. it's 423-282-8090. but if you've got a two-way radio and you get in the car with somebody, you've got to be

working with somebody. >> there's somebody else involved. sure looks like it. richelle, thanks for the update. we'll keep following that one. there's a story we're revisiting. sexting. it's wrong, stupid for teens to be doing it, sending naked pictures of themselves veeate cell phone to the boyfriend or the girlfriend. we've got to do something to stop it. we've got to teach them that this is wrong. but what's the correct consequence? i don't know if we want to charge our kids with child porn and they're labeled sex offenders. but what's the happy medium here? we're going to talk to a school district who's laying out an outright ban on this. is that the way to go? we'll take your calls. 1-877-tell-hln.

welcome back. breaking news now on the brutal murder of swimsuit model jasmine fiore. homicide cops in california are trying to figure out whether this white mercedes-benz belonged to the murder victim.

there you see it being towed away on a flatbed. right now it's being impounded. someone spotted the mercedes at a trader joe's market in west hollywood. police had been looking for fiore's mercedes since she went missing on august 15th. the model, again, found dumped in a trash bin, stuffed in a suitcase without her teeth, her fingers, killed so brutally she had to be identified by the serial number on her breast implants. the accused killer, her ex, ryan jenkins. he took off for canada, killed himself in a hotel room there. the mercedes again being towed away today. will be taken to a crime lab in orange county. we'll keep you updated on that development. all right. now this story. it's one we continue to follow here. because we care about our kids. sexting. it has to stop. bottom line, kids, you know, they could ruin their lives, be labeled sex predators. we know what sexting is, where the kids use their cell phone to send a naked picture of themselves to a friend, boyfriend, girlfriend. well, here's what's going on to xwatd this. school officials in texas, they've had enough.

they've posted on all-out ban on sexting in two districts. much different game plan in new hampshire. lawmakers there are trying to protect teens frbing charged under child porn laws. all right. yes, there should be consequences for sexting but should some teenager being charged with child porn end up being labeled a sex offender? so then the question becomes what is the best way to deal with this? people are trying. we'll take your calls. 1-877-tell-hln is the number. back with us to talk about, it anita kay, former prosecutor, criminal defense attorney. also with us, sari locker, sex educator and adolescent psychologist. also joining us, hans graf, the assistant legal counsel to the houston independent school district, who laid out the ban here. they're not going to have any of it. they're not going to tolerate it. hans, why did you guys decide to do this? did you have an issue with sexting there in the school system or are you guys just trying to catch it before it really gets going? >> well, i'm not aware that we've had a lot of cases of it. but every year we review our

code of conduct. and lay out what we expect the students in terms of discipline and the consequences for not following that. and when we met and looked at it, it's a group of administrators and teachers and students, the administrators, a couple of school principals, raised the issue and said we needed to address this. and to the extent that they -- they're the first ones that see the problem. so to the extent that it's a problem, we came up with a policy to address it. >> okay. and then the idea -- so with the ban then the punishment -- what are we talking about? informing parents? suspension? expulsion? is that where we're going, just different degrees of punishment? >> it's kind of in the middle. we're not expelling kids for this. >> okay. >> but we could -- it could be anything from calling the parents, having a conference with the parents and the students, to a three-day suspension. or if it's a serious situation

it could result in the student being placed in a disciplinary alternative education program. >> got you. let's get a call in real quick on >> sherry? your thoughts. >> yes, maybe have had an idea that would help out a lot. why don't we have the cell phone companies perhaps work out a program that we designate a child's phone and when designated as a child's phone, any picture messages this child sends out, it will automatically trigger an automatic send to the parents of the same thing. a duplicate. >> interesting. sary, do you like that idea? >> absolutely. those things already exit. your regular cell phone provi r providers might have something like that. i talked to a mother who said

she monitors her daughter's cell phone by looking at all the pictures that have been sent and all the texts. she says that anything her teenager sends could get forwarded to anyone and even mom could read it. she said the trickiest part was learning how to use her daughter's complicated phone. you should pick the phone your teenager has. >> and that's one of the consequences that kids have to know. that whether it's a text or a sext, and it gets out there on the internet, there's no reeling it back. real quick, a facebook comment. mary says sending naked pictures of yourself on the internet will be viewed by some hairy, smelly, fat guy. call in, 1-877-tell-hln.