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breaking news tonight. live, to l.a., a quiet apartment community reeling after a suitcase discovered in the communal dumpster opened to reveal a female body. identity, unsolved for days. much less how she came to be murdered. then thrown away like trash. the body, inside that suitcase, is 28-year-old swimsuit model jasmine fiore, brutally beaten, her teeth pulled out of her head. her fingers removed. to conceal identity. how i.d.'d the body? serial numbers off fiore's breast implants. her body, that traumatized.
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in a bizarre twist, a reality tv star wanted for the murder found dead in a british columbia hotel room. 32-year-old ryan jenkins' luxury bmw and empty boat trailer abandoned on the u.s./canadian border. jenkins dead. hanging by a belt from this coat rack inside this hotel room. jenkins traveling with an alleged accomplice, a mystery blond driving a silver pt cruiser. she checks him into the hotel, while he stays hidden. was she with him in l.a.? did she help in the herculean task of dismembering and disposing of fiore's body? bombshell tonight, as we go to air, police confirm fiore's missing black mercedes located, abandoned in a west hollywood parking lot. is the car the key to a murder
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scene? in another stunning development, we also learn a pt cruiser spotted at the luxury condo where jenkins' sister reportedly lives. police interrogate the sister. what does she know. and in another twist, a calgary businessman contacted multiple times by jenkins while he's on the run. why? jenkins' family adamantly swearing he didn't do it. well, then who did? and tonight, the secret text messages reveal motive for murder. this, after video surfaces of fiore and jenkins at a luxury hotel just before the murder, seemingly in love. >> canadian police are investigating whether a member of ryan jenkins' family helped him flee canada. canadian media reporting a mysterious blond woman checked in jenkins in that motel, may
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have been his half-sister. she is being questioned by police. >> the lady that came, she left and then you never seen her again. when i took out the garbage i seen her car and it was a silver p it t cruiser. >> the car similar to the one reportedly seen at the motel when jenkins checked in. >> she only stayed for 20 minutes and left. she booked for three days. >> she made a phone call from a citizen who potentially spotted the outstanding 2007 mercedes at 8611 santa monica boulevard in the city of west hollywood. west hollywood sheriffs responded to that call, and have located our outstanding vehicle. >> that was the vehicle that they were in at some point just preceding the homicide. there is evidence that they were together in that car. we want to solve it, and put to rest this gruesome killing.
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>> and tonight, live to oklahoma, a lady pastor found dead inside the church. police calling the crime scene the most horrific in decades. the pastor, so dedicated, she drove 60 miles each way every sunday to preach the gospel. with no report of theft, no sex attack, motive remains a mystery. and now other pastors across the region warned they may be targets. who murdered beloved pastor carol daniels inside the church house. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com inside the holy sanctify church, someone committed the unthinkable act, the murder of pastor carol daniels. >> news that has devastated
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their family hearing their loved one, a pastor, had been killed inside her own church. even harder for family is learning investigators not only have no suspects, but few leads. the d.a. called it the most horrific crime scene he's ever witnessed in nearly 20 years as a prosecutor. he won't go into detail, but says it was brutal. >> the 61-year-old would travel an hour and ten minutes every sunday from oklahoma city to anadarko to minister to a small congregation. her mother wants to know whoever took her daughter away to be caught. not only to face the judge, but the lord. >> i can't rationalize it. i don't understand why this would happen. and i want them to have an opportunity to receive the lord and save their soul. >> good evening. i'm nancy grace. i want to thank you for being with us. a reality tv star wanted for the murder of swimsuit model jasmine
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fiore found dead in a hotel room. as the search intensifies for the mystery blond, jenkins' alleged accomplice, police confirm fiore's black-topped mercedes abandoned in a west hollywood parking lot. is the car a key to the murder scene. >> my son is innocent. and i think he panicked and i'm -- i'm just -- i'm dead. i'm dead inside. i'm devastated. what can i tell you? i love him. he's my only child. >> today cops want to know whether jenkins' family is somehow involved. they say a car spotted at that motel matched the description of his dad's silver pt cruiser. >> a vehicle very similar to that one is now 700 miles to the west of us in vancouver, british columbia, parked in the building where brian's half sister, alena, now lives. >> it was over by the dumpster. people usually park up by the room. i thought that's odd.
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she parks by the dumpster like she doesn't want anything to do with this guy. 20 minutes later she was long gone. >> a citizen located the vehicle in a parking lot. and thought it matched the description given by the media. and she called the sheriffs department who went out there, and they verified in fact it was her vehicle. we have secured the vehicle. we are towing it to a crime lab facility to process it. >> could it have been just a transport vehicle and she was removed from the car for that heinous activity? >> straight out to carolyn jarvis, global national reporter with cnn affiliate global news. she's standing by in downtown vancouver. carolyn jarvis, what's the latest? >> well, we found this pt cruiser today, nancy, and it raises all sorts of suspicions about who this mystery blond was, who was with ryan jenkins last thursday when he arrived at the motel in hope. the pt cruiser found at the underground garage here in downtown vancouver has alberta
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plates. that fits the description that witnesses say to the pt cruiser used in hope, and suspiciously backed up against the wall of this underground garage, saying, we don't want anybody to see this license plate. there's only one identifier right on the back. ryan jenkins' father had a pt cruiser listed to his name. and the number on the buzzer indicates that jenkins does live there. we believe it's his half-sister, alena. was there a link, was she tied to this, could she be charged with accessory after the fact to aiding and abetting, and did she know her brother was a fugitive if in fact she was part of this. >> we're taking calls live. out to paul. thank you for being with us. i want to talk about the black-topped mercedes and why police believe, now that they found it abandoned in a parking lot, in a very unusual spot,
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too, a place you would not normally look, why they think that may be a link to a potential murder scene? >> well, they think it's possible the body could have been inside the trunk. we're talking about jasmine fiore's body. the police told me they know jasmine and ryan were in that mercedes in san diego that thursday night. the next day ryan left the hotel on his own. jasmine was never seen again. that car had disappeared. police were looking for it for two weeks, until it finally turned up today. a citizen spotted it in this tiny parking lot in west hollywood. we're talking about a very busy area, with a specialty grocery store, a starbucks across the street. and here it was wedged in this tiny parking lot next door to the grocery store lot. and someone saw it and said, you know, that looks like the car. >> it's my understanding it was in a trader joe's parking lot, a kind of a boutique grocery of sorts, across the street from the starbucks. but that you had to go off to the edge and then down to a lower lot. where you could only park five
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or six cars. >> actually, it wasn't part of the -- i just went over there. i was over there 15 minutes ago. there's the trader joe's lot right behind the store. right next to it is the smaller lot. they already had tv crews setting up there and there were only five or six spaces in this small parking lot behind a building. it's no surprise to me unless someone really looked there -- >> you would never see it. >> exactly. hidden in plain sight. >> joining me also, corporal norman massey from the canadian mounted police, joining us from british columbia. corporal, thank you for being with us. what can you tell me about the pk cruiser found in the parking lot? >> i can't tell you anything about it. unfortunately, that can compromise details our investigation. quite frankly, the investigation from our point of view is going well. we've identified all the people that we need to speak with at this point. and they are cooperating. so we won't do anything to jeopardize that, by discussing the details of the
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investigation. >> so you say everyone you want to speak with is cooperating? >> at this point. there may be others that evolve from our conversations, but at this point, the ones that we have identified are cooperating, that's correct. >> with me, corporal norm massie from british columbia. we are taking your calls live. tonight as we go to break, our prayers to the family left behind by best-selling author, "vanity fair" special correspondent and friend, dominic dunne. at 83 he lost his battle with cancer just a few hours ago. dunne befriended me many years ago, confiding that he, like me, was a victim of violent crime. his 22-year-old daughter, dom i neek, was murdered, leading dunn to become a tireless victims right advocate. he covered the biggest trials in the world, including simpson, the menendez brothers, phil
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specter. i will never forget the many times he analyzed cases here for me on "headline news." and then back at court tv, many years ago, with five best-sellers, dunne was a hollywood producer. he has a documentary series dominic dunne's power, privilege and justice. he graduated williams college. very important, he was a world war ii vet who was awarded the bronze star. at his death, he was putting the finishing touches on a final novel, "too much money." he described it to me just weeks ago when we talked. he encouraged me when i didn't believe i could finish my own book. i wrote of him in my first book "objection" noting that his pen was mightier than a sword. truer words were never spoken.
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authorities in canada have identified and are investigating a woman who may have helped jenkins evade authorities. >> calm as could be. very cordial, very calm. no nervousness, nothing. >> when are they going to arrest her? it is a pretty serious crime, even more so in the united states, to aid and abet a felon after the fact to help them evade justice. the family can't have justice now because the guy killed himself? i don't think anybody deserves to die. but they deserve some kind of justice, and maybe if she helped him either get here from the united states, or hide in that stupid motel, you know, she
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should be prosecuted. >> you have to prove that she knew he was fleeing from authorities in the united states. and that she just wasn't helping him out and renting him a motel room. >> she parked over there by the dumpster. most people park by the room, right? i thought, that seemed odd. he seemed a little hyper. 20 minutes later she was long gone. >> who is the mystery blond. take a look at what happened to this woman, 28-year-old model jasmine fiore. not only was she murdered, we believe by strangulation, but then she was dismembered. every tooth in her head pulled out. her fingers removed, cut from her body. did someone help jenkins dismember and dispose of that body while he went on the run? this investigation is far from over. we are taking your calls to barbara in california. hi, barbara. >> caller: hi, nancy. i just wanted to ask you, isn't
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it out of character for such a narcissistic person as ryan jenkins to take his own life? >> you know, that's an interesting point. i want to go to the specialist, psychologist dr. karen stark, joining us from our manhattan studios. karen, what about it? i've got to tell you that all along, several people said, what if he kills himself, and i said, i went, no, no, he's so into himself, he would never commit suicide. i was wrong. >> well, nancy, i really believe that in most cases, you would be right. but this guy seems to have taken his aggressive impulses and turned it onto himself. maybe he just got totally out of control and then he realized that there was no place left for him to run. and he certainly didn't want to face authorities. he can be extremely aggressive. and he is narcissistic. he can't live like that. >> or maybe instead of manning up and answering up for what he
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did, i mean, he knew canada would not extradite him back to the u.s. if the death penalty was being sought. he was -- his intellect was such that he would know that. so it seems to me he took the easy way out wallowing in his own self-pity, poor, poor, pitiful me. that's my take on it. what about it, karen? >> that makes sense, nancy. he is somebody who couldn't live with that image. there is no way that he could live with anything but what he felt was a perfect guy. he was so manipulative. and i do know that he was aggressive. so i believe he turned it on himself. >> out to the lines, laurie, alabama. hi, laurie. >> caller: hi. >> hi, dear. what's your question? >> caller: i wanted to know was she killed first or did he cut her fingers off and pull her teeth out before he killed her and tortured her? >> the chief medical examiner joining us from miami. dr. bell, great to see you again. i assume that that is something
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that would be able to be determined from the autopsy? >> most likely yes. because i would expect to see bleeding or hemorrhage within the soft tissue surrounding, say, her gums, surrounding the teeth and also at the fingertips. if she was killed -- if that type of mutilation was done while she was still alive. >> i'm sorry, i couldn't hear you. could you repeat? >> sure. i would expect to see hemorrhage around the gums, around her teeth, and also at her fingertips and the soft tissues if this was done while she was still alive, as opposed if it was done after she was dead. >> >> he had his sunglasses on, baseball cap and stubble on his face and his head looked a little bit darker. he looked a lot slender, too,
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a sit citizen located the vehicle in the parking lot and thought it matched the description given by the media, and she called the sheriff's department who went out there and verified it was our vehicle. the detectives are canvassing the area for witnesses and surveillance video. we're looking for any evidence to the crime, whether it be blood evidence, or any other forensic evidence that we can find. >> straight out to carolyn jarvis, joining us from british columbia. what can you tell me about his frame of mind, his mental health? >> your earlier caller talked about suicide and taking his life. ryan jenkins. painting a picture of this man is going to be so difficult, because he's not here to answer any of the questions that so many people want badly answered. but sources close to the jenkins family tell me that he may have struggled with mental health, that he may in fact have tried
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previously to take his own life. and that aggression was definitely a problem with him. we've seen that in the court documents that allege that he may have hit jasmine, and also those that he pled guilty to in calgary back in 2005. so whether or not suicidal tendencies were something that were innate to him or not, we will never know. but there are certainly sources that tell me that may be the case, nancy. >> back to dr. karen stark. karen, isn't it true that when people try to commit suicide and they're stopped, that at some point they're going to try again? >> absolutely, nancy. you can count on it. unless something drastically has changed, they're in therapy, they really work on their problems, their den tense i to want to kill themselves remains. you have to take it very seriously. >> first to mike brooks, former fed with the fbi, "headline news" law enforcement analyst. mike, longtime no see. welcome back, friend. >> thank you, nancy.
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it's good to be back. >> mike, number one, the car, what's going to reveal, and number two, do you really think this guy, who seems to be weak, there's really no other way to put it, do you really think that he on his own could kill her, dismember her in that fashion, can you imagine him having the fortitude to remove every tooth out of her head, dismember her hands, and dispose of the body? do you see it? does that mean that there was an accomplice? >> you know, nancy, you can never count out that there was somebody was helping him, that he wasn't acting alone. but the rcmp, they're conducting their investigation up there. we've now got the car. now, that car, nancy, we're talking possible blood, hair, fibers, trace evidence. and the big thing is, it's in west hollywood in the trader joe's parking lot. there are so many surveillance video cameras in that area, nancy, i'm sure that they're probably going to be able to get the car coming in, possibly see
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jenkins traded a calgary real estate job for the life of a u.s. reality tv show contestant. >> he was perfect for the show. not only are you looking for charismatic, con viv yal, full of energy in real life reality contestant -- >> i want to appeal to all your senses. >> a contestant on vh1, that had 17 wealthy men competing for a woman's love. >> jenkins was also a real estate developer, investor and all-around party boy, say people who knew him. >> i spent a good amount of time with this guy.
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i was shocked, surprised. >> he ended up with more attention than he could ever have imagined. accused of killing and butchering his model wife. >> i had no thoughts whatsoever he could be capable of this behavior. >> he reportedly met fiore right after the vh-1 taping and married her a few weeks later. >> this is a tragedy. my heart goes out to the fiore family. no one could have seen this happen. >> straight out to a special guest, joining us tonight, the casting director who cast jenkins on megan wants a millionaire. first, let's see jenkins in action. >> i'm with megan alone. it was enough to let her get in touch with my deeper side. and redeem myself for, you know, some of the silly things i said at dinner. >> i hope it's not the client. >> that would suck. >> for you.
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>> i might have to do the dishes. >> we? i'll meet you at home. just joking. >> don't do that to me. you're cute. >> you're cute. >> is this the best date ever? >> maybe. >> maybe? >> i'll tell you at the end. >> i don't know if megan and i have had enough time together to actually loosen up and really get to know me. >> i feel like you're manipulating me. >> i wanted to show her a little bit of vulnerability, to maybe make her a little more comfortable with me. it's going to be the best night of your life. i'm definitely the most james bond out of anyone here. >> ryan saved the day. >> i decided to appeal to all your senses. and first, i'd like to start with your mouth. >> my mouth is not a sun dial.
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>> your mind. >> that's not a sense either, but i'll go with it, because you're so cute. >> the # stewart, i hope it wasn't you that picked out that music that was playing in the background. everybody who saw "megan wants a millionaire," please tell me you didn't pick out that music. >> nancy, i had nothing to do with the music. >> thank you. that aside, let's go to the larger question. with me, stewart brassel, casting director. now, more important, please tell me you were not responsible for not running his rap sheet. >> nancy, i am strictly the creative process. my job is to get big characters on the show. i have nothing to do with the vetting process. i interview him, i pass those tapes over, that's where the line stops with me. >> now, how did you two meet? and what about him? i'm trying to get -- because i'm certainly not getting it from
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watching him in action. all that fake giggling and those used-up lines. they're so tired. he was putting on that chick. but what about him? intrigued you to cast him? >> you know, nancy, it was one of the first times that i've actually had a potential contestant approach me. he came right over, full of confidence. you can see from that clip, that he's cocky. he has those lines. he was dubbed the smooth operator. he had confidence. he was attractive. he had what i thought would make for great tv. >> just the kind of man i would run from. run for the hills, as if i had seen a monster. cocky, attitude, coming on to you in such a way. why? >> well, luckily i'm not trying to date him, you know, i was thinking this is someone -- >> on air, how would he play on the airwaves?
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>> exactly on air. i thought he was going to make for good tv. he was going to have interactions on the house. he was always going to have something to say. he constantly refers to him as babies. he was a ladies man. i thought he would come on to megan. i thought he would make for good tv, simple as that. >> let me ask you, now, how did you two meet originally? >> i was in las vegas. as i said, i am not representing the show, i'm speaking for myself. i was parted of the casting team. me and the colleague take the escalator down at the ven eshan. we step off the escalator. he was on us three seconds later. babies, how are you. what are we doing? where are we going? you know, very confident. almost -- he was someone i could tell from his confidence in approaching us that he would make for outrageous behavior on the show. >> let me ask you how you respond to jenkins' father, who said that hollywood corrupted his son. now, i know he's obviously turning a blind eye to the fact
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that his son beat a woman in canada, another woman, and had been court ordered to counseling for sex addiction. that was before he moved to hollywood. but what about hollywood, and in effect you and the show corrupting him? >> first of all, nancy, i'd like to say, this shakes me to the core. what has happened to jasmine fiore, my heart goes out to her family. and hearing jenkins' voice on the phone. i understand what his father is saying. when he gleed to go on a reality tv show, you open that door. people can be sucked in. and i think what we need to look at is how can we better improve this process, what can be done to better prepare people to come off the reality show. and i think that some counseling could be very beneficial. >> you mean when he came off the show it was a downer when he didn't make it and he was broken up? >> speaking from my own personal
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experience, i was on a reality show, you go from the 24/7, you're working, you're putting yourself up to be judged. you're competing. you're making friends at the same time, yet competing with people. you're in this altered world. all of a sudden you're thrown back into your real life. do you know how to function in that normal real life again? >> susan moss, new york, rene rockwell, atlanta, allen ripka, new york. let's get down to the brass tacks. yes, i'm worried about reality show contestants and their emotions when they get kicked off the show -- not. i'm more worried, susan moss, with someone with a history of abusing women, not being treated or put behind bars when they should be. what do you make of this mystery woman, susan moss? do you really think he acted alone? >> they found this pt cruiser by the sister, you know, around the sister of this loser.
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this must have been a family affair. the fact that this exact car, it appears from the description, and the alberta license plate, what else could it be. what else could lead us to think that he was getting help by his family and they should be prosecuted. >> rene rockwell, i'm wondering if an accomplice was not used back in l.a. i find it really hard to believe that he could dismember her, that he had the fortitude to dismember her in that manner all by himself. >> nancy, just the signature crime itself looks like it's something that he acted alone on. but i'll tell you that the authorities will be interested, if anybody, especially his family, was involved in him escaping justice, even up to canada, and that, too, could be prosecuted. >> if it is the sister, are they going to cut her some slack. allen ripka, i don't see them bringing charges against the sister. >> i don't either. i think he called his sister in his moment of need, and all she
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did is drive him to the motel and left not knowing he would commit suicide. they won't have anything to charge her with and let her go. >> i see the calls stacking up. we'll be right to you. an eye-opening psa brings awareness about the dangers of texting and driving. you may not realize it, but texting while driving is so dangerous, it can be fatal. as talking on a cell phone or drinking and driving. southwell police teaming up with a filmmaker to show how a simple text message can end in fatality. the psa, public service announcement, showing a teen texting behind the wheel. seconds later she slams head-first into another car causing a chain reaction. the only survivors? the teen and a toddler girl. repeatedly asks about her parents. they're dead at the crash. according to aaa, the risk of accident increases 50% when texting behind the wheel. for more information, please, go to aaa.com.
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the trail leads direct ri to the jenkins family itself. when ryan jenkins ran the border in his power boat last week, he headed to port roberts, where his dad has numerous homes and police sources now tell us the fugitive from u.s. law was picked up by his step-sister, driving a pt cruiser, given to her by her father, with alberta plates. they drove to hope on thursday. the woman behind the wheel leaving quickly after paying crash for ryan's room. on sunday at noon, jenkins was found dead by staff, hanging from a coat rack, an apparent suicide. police believe he died alone. >> straight out to our chief editorial producer, ellie joseph. ellie, what more can you tell me? >> we're finding out now that police are putting together a comprehensive time line of what happened between the time that jenkins checks out of that hotel in san diego on friday morning,
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and the very next morning, when jasmine's body is found. they're looking through phone records. they're looking through bank records, trying to figure out exactly what he was and when. >> and if there is an accomplice help him dismember and dispose of that body, certainly text messages or cell phone calls may reveal who that person is. everyone, we are switching gears. we want answers. we are live in oklahoma. and the brutal murder of a lady pastor inside the church house. the police say the crime scene, the most horrific they have ever seen. with sex attack and thievery not reported as a motive. pastors throughout the region now warned they may be a target. >> friends say they believe god was saving a special place in heaven for reverend karen daniels. each sunday for the past five years, the 61-year-old pastor made the 60-mile drive from
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oklahoma city to this anadarko church. but her murder this past sunday sent a chill through town. >> i don't know what to think. i mean, who would do this to this woman. >> authorities have focused their investigation in and around the church, looking for clues as to who may have killed the pastor. >> we're still investigating, still gathering information, still doing interviews. we're trying to come up with a time line of events that happened sunday. >> while authorities try to piece together exactly what happened, family and the community are asking why. >> a couple hours every evening sometimes. we would talk. that was what she was all about, teaching. and making sure people would know that god is real. and they have an opportunity to serve him. >> no, it's no cathedral. but it is the house of god, and she was murdered inside of it. the pastor of this little church. straight out to rob hoye,
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joining us from oklahoma city. rob, what can you tell me. joining us from news radio 1000 ktok. >> well, nancy, thanks for having me on. basically what we know right now is that reverend daniels was preparing for a sunday morning service inside of the church when she was killed. now, the oklahoma state bureau of investigation is being pretty tight lipped. the details on the crime scene, how she was killed, what we do know right now is that she died from multiple sharp force injury, that is straight from the state medical examiner's office. >> oh! rob hoy joining us from ktok. rob, was she in the sanctuary? >> we're not sure where she was in the church. like i said, the osbi is not giving out very many details about where she was in the church, about the crime scene itself, or about how she died. >> to mike brooks, former fed with the fbi.
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mike, have you ever in all of your years in law enforcement, in all my years of prosecuting, i never prosecuted a murder where someone was killed inside the church house. >> no. i've never seen anything like this, nancy. and, you know, but there's something that's bothering me. there's something they're saying, they're letting the other pastors in that area know that they could be in danger. so nancy, that says to me there's something unusual about this crime scene, because apparently -- exactly. >> because if it was an isolated incident, if they thought it was someone she knew, ewouldn't see a $10,000 reward. you wouldn't see them telling the other pastors in that area to take precautions. there's something in that crime scene that's very unusual that they're not telling us about, nancy. >> that's an excellent analysis, mike brooks. investigative reporter on the story, what more can you tell me, nicole? >> good evening, nancy. i love your new book. thank you very much. we know the district attorney met with the local pastors
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today. this meeting was to discuss safety precautions, as mike brooks mentioned. this coming after the murder of the pastor daniels there. we know a lot about her. we know she was a very generous person. soft-spoken. a mother of five. no known enemies. we also know, this is a small town, of only about 6,000 people. they only have a couple of homicides a year. so basically everyone knows everybody. they know their neighbors. they're very accustomed to the neighborhood. so what went wrong, we don't know. we do know it was very horrific. we do know she was a precious woman whose life has been taken. >> with me right now, a very special guest, the son of the reverend carol daniels, alvin daniels is joining us from oklahoma city, oklahoma. mr. daniels, thank you for being with us. >> thank you for having me on. >> when was the last time you spoke to your mother? >> i spoke to her friday, i believe. >> and she was actually in the church preparing for sunday
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services when this happened? >> i'm assuming she was. i'm not for sure. but that's what she normally would have been doing. >> had your mother ever spoken to you about feeling threatened or any perceived danger in the area? >> no. she was very cautious for the most part. and she usually would leave the door open in case people came in to worship. >> you know, alvin, my mother is our church organist, and i can't tell you how many times she goes over by herself to practice on the organ for the following sunday. and i just can't tell you how much our hearts go out to you, not only about the murder, but that someone would do this, as she was preparing to spread the word of god. alvin daniels, what are police telling you? do they have any leads? >> at this point, they're not telling us much.
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just that -- we just found out this through the paper, that there were sharp in the paper that there were sharp trauma to her and we were just learning that at this point. >> could you tell me about her? could you tell me about pastor carol daniels? what kind of mother was she? >> she was the greatest mother. she was always joking with us and always taking care of us, even giving her last dollar even if she didn't have it. a very loving mother. i couldn't ask for a better mother.
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61-year-old pastor carol daniels, truly believed in her message. she has been found murdered in a little church where she preached. straight out to jessica brown, the pio with oklahoma state bureau of investigation. jessica brown, thank you for being with us. what more can you tell us about the search for her killer? >> i can tell you that osbi is conducting interviews, we're collecting evidence. we've put out a $10,000 reward for information and that has helped us even garner more information, more phone calls to osbi. we're getting in quite a few names of people in the area who live near anadarko who have been to prison, who have been
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convicted of similar situations and of course, we're looking into all of those people. we gathered a timeline. we know she was last seen at 10:00 monday morning and she was found deceased inside that church about noon. >> susan ross, renee rockwell, allen ripka, i assume that this may persuade a jury to give the death penalty, renee rockwell, if and when this goes on trial? >> absolutely. anything that's so horrific and so horrible and we can't discount the fact that although this is a stabbing and it seems to be a very personal offense, this could be just some crazy person that she was counseling. >> susan moss? >> what type of creature brutally murders a preacher? let me tell you something, you may not believe in hell, but this person's going to hell. >> allen ripka? >> we need to know the facts before whether or not the state -- >> of course, thank you. >> everyone, let's stop and remember army private, peter cross. left studies at moody bible institute to enlist. awarded the medal, an army service ribbon, dreamed of being
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a missionary. dedicated school years to mission trips. he loved handing out candy, pen, paper to local kids, leaves behind parents michael and kerry, three brothers, three sisters. peter cross, american hero. thanks for our guests and especially to you for being with us. and good night from friends of the show anna and alabama friends of the show, four generations of the sprayberry family. gail, tania, toby, angie, charles, kailey and mia. aren't they beautiful? everyone, i'll see you tomorrow night at 8:00 sharp eastern and night at 8:00 sharp eastern and until then, good night, friend. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com
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