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you can e-mail us, cnn.com/primenews. or send us a text at hlntv. just start your message with the word prime. it's your chance to be heard. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com this is "prime news." i'm mike galanos. kidnapped 18 years ago, an 11-year-old girl, she's now 29. jaycee dugard found alive. walked into a police station yesterday. two people in custody. back in 1991, she was grabbed walking to her school bus stop. just 150 yards from her home. her dad was inside the house, actually saw the car pull up and take her. terrifying to think of that. now nearly two decades later, her family's in complete shock. listen to the emotion. here's jaycee's stepfather. >> my wife called me in, she said, are you sitting down? i said yes. she said, they found jaycee.

she paused for a few seconds and said she's alive. we both cried for about ten minutes. as a matter of fact, my voice hasn't come back yet. and we just talked. she had told me she had actually talked to jaycee on the telephone. >> i can't imagine all the emotions they're going through. we'll take your calls, 1-877-tell-hln. joining us to talk about it, karen stark, clinical psychologist. also with with us, welcome back, mike brooks. also with us, dan simon from our sister network cnn. dan's been covering this all day. dan, let's go back to yesterday. what are the specifics? what happened as she walked into this police station? >> reporter: well, we're actually getting some new details, mike. this coming from the department of corrections. it's saying a parole officer apparently became suspicious of the suspect, craig galedo, and basically alerted the concord police department in terms of what he had been seeing. not exactly sure why he was suspicious. but in any event, it eventually led to the suspect along with the victim in this case showing

up at the concord police department, basically saying, you know, who she was, that she was this girl who had been kidnapped all those years ago. and of course, the suspects, two people in this case, taken into custody. we're talking about phillip dorito, 58 years old and his wife nancy. mr. gurido charged with many different things, kidnapping, rape by force, committing a lewd and lascivious act with a minor, sexual penetration and conspiracy. the wife, nancy, charged with conspiracy, and kidnapping. both being held on $1 million bail. let me tell you where i am at the moment. i'm in front of the garrido's house in antioch, california, just outside of san francisco. you can see behind me all these vehicles here, those vehicles belong to law enforcement. we've seen about 20 or so fbi agents, and local police

officers conducting a search warrant on this house, taking various things out of this house. still an ongoing case. we should tell you that just about -- in an hour from now, the eldorado county sheriff's department, that's the area where the now young woman was abducted all those years ago, they're going to be holding a press conference in an hour from now. and give us more details on this case, mike. >> we'll be following that. let's start with jaycee. how is she doing? what do we know? >> reporter: in terms of how she's doing, according to the authorities, she is actually in good health. we know that the fbi got involved in this case, and telephoned her mother, jaycee's mother. and the mother obviously was surprised, ecstatic. i'm not sure that even captures it. in any event, there was a conversation between the mother and her daughter. the mother hung up that phone, absolutely convinced that it was

in fact her daughter, and apparently was en route to northern california. she lives in the los angeles area. en route to this area, to have what will be an unbelievable reunion, mike. >> exactly. all right. dan, what do we know about where they -- over the last 18 years, where they've been? what has happened to then young jaycee? >> reporter: we're hearing so much about this story, and a lot of it right now simply isn't reportable. we haven't confirmed all these details. but suffice to say, i think we can safely report that this woman had been in custody of this couple for many, many years. and not exactly sure what triggered all this to come out. but in any event, she's now in the hands of local law enforcement, and appears to be in good health. >> yeah. so the belief is, just for everyone's context here, south

lake tahoe where she was taken in antioch, california, about two hours. not like they -- we don't know where they went, right, dan? we're not sure if they went from south lake tahoe and spent the next 18 years in antioch? >> reporter: real good question. we know that jaycee's stepfather reported that 18 years ago he basically saw a two-tone gray sedan pull up in front of that house where they lived in sout lake tahoe, at an -- an unidentified person pulled the 11-year-old girl at the time, the little girl into the car and sped off. from then, you had a lot of reports come out about this missing girl. apparently "america's most wanted" even did something several years ago. and this case was cold for obviously 18 years. until she walked into that police department yesterday. >> unbelievable. let's bring our psychologist, karen stark in. karen, i can't even imagine what this reunion will be like. what kind of emotions, let's start with jaycee, could she be

feeling right now? >> well, part of her must be overjoy, but also fearful to see her family. because she's been away from them for so long. and i imagine she may not have good feelings about herself. she was only 11 years old. and so at 11, you blame yourself for what's happening in a situation like that. and she was abducted, and obviously it seems like she was sexually abused. so how could she have a good feeling about herself. this is going to be a mix of emotions for her, i'm sure. >> how about mom? >> mom is going to be overjoyed. she doesn't care. what a miracle. think about it. >> exactly. >> how miraculous this story is. >> we've heard jaycee's stepfather and mother talked, and he said they cried for ten minutes. again, we can only imagine the emotions they went through. let's bring in mike brooks. as you saw dan there, you saw all the investigators by the home. now you've got to slowly piece this back together, right? >> this is going to be a big, big puzzle, mike, to put

together. you've got local police and the fbi. when this broke this morning, i was looking at the aerial shots, you had the fbi's evidence response team out around the house. so they're assisting with the search. they're going to have to go back and take a look at this guy's records for years and years and years, going back to 1991, to find out exactly where she was. she may also, you know, jaycee may lend a lot of information to this. but it's still so puzzling to me, went into the police station, about a question, the parole officer let the police know and then they ran this guy's record and found out he had done apparently some time back in the '80s in federals prison in leavenworth. that's federal hard time, mike. he also is a registered sex offender. this isn't the guy's first rodeo. but how far back does it go. and are there any other victims possibly. >> we're continue to follow this. there's going to be a press conference coming up at 6:00. we'll get the latest

information. dan, mike, karen, we appreciate it. i want to end with one last facebook comment. this is faith writing, wow, if only all the abductions had these happy endings. another prayer answered. god bless her and her family. thanks for that facebook comment. we'll continue to follow this for you. let's go on to this now. another missing persons case, we're hoping for the same ending. that little haleigh cummings is okay. the last person to see her, misty croslin comings, miserably failed lie detector tests. we'll let you know what questions she failed and what this could mean in the search for little haleigh. @@@@@@w limb: dude that was sick!

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welcome back. haleigh cummings' stepmom, misty, has taken several new polygraphs. and in the words of one observer, she failed miserably. little haleigh disappeared from her bed in florida six months ago. her stepmom says she was sleeping when someone broke in and took haleigh. we're finding out about the new polygraphs, one taken just last week. the results will blow you away. do you know what happened to haleigh? misty, no. the result? 99% deception. wow, what are the police going to do with this? >> it indicated that misty was deception indicated, is the official statement. which is no surprise to us. we've said all along that misty has been inconsistent in her statement. and i agree with the point that was made by tim miller's investigator, which is that misty's consistency is inconsistency.

>> very well put. she's been inconsistent with her time line, and what happened really since day one. we'll take your calls on this one, 1-877-tell-hln. joining us to talk about it, john patrick dolan, criminal defense attorney. also with us, tim miller, texas equisearch. t.j. hart will join us shortly in gainesville, florida. tim, let's start with you. you pretty much conducted this search, correct? >> we did a big search when haleigh first disappeared. we were helping the law enforcement doing a search. and misty -- or ronald's mother, actually, contacted martin james and felt there wasn't enough attention being put on haleigh's disappearance. and wanted another search. and i actually had to go to orlando anyhow on some paperwork on the hearing on caylee anthony. so we went ahead and met with the cummings family. and we agreed to go ahead and do some more searches, whatever we could do to go ahead and get her

located. and misty just said that, you know what, she just wanted to take the focus off of her, felt as though law enforcement wasn't being honest with her, that she wanted to clear her name. and she asked me, is there any way i can take a polygraph, because i don't trust law enforcement. so i contacted the extremely reputable polygrapher in the area. so we went ahead and paid for that. there was just more questions asked. basically we figured this was going to be a po-minute polygraph, and it ended up five and a half hours. she failed the questions. literally just miserably. and, you know, and we asked her to clarify some of these questions, she really got upset. she stormed out of the room. she went to leave, and then she said, well, tim u i really need to talk to you. she said it seems like maybe i was dreaming or something, i woke up, it seems like maybe there was four people in the house. i really don't know. is there any we can do a truth

serum or be hypnotized. i said, is this what you really want to do? she said, yes, i have to clear myself. everybody thinks i'm lying. and she says, is there any way we can do a voice test? i hear they work. i contacted t.j. ward out of atlanta, which i worked with him in aruba in natalie holloway's case. and he agreed to do it. i made contact, did research contact, contacted a hypnotist that's actually retired from nypd, detective. known him for 35 years. everything was just miserably failed. >> okay, everything, whether it be -- let's go through some of the questions here. we went through one just a moment ago. here's another one. did you intentionally withhold any information regarding haleigh's disappearance? misty answers no. 99% deception again on that front. let's bring in our lawyer and

we'll take a break. john, seems this is pretty damning, isn't it? as a lawyer -- go ahead. >> there's a couple of problems here. first of all, at first blush, this does sound damning. but i would want to know who are the people who are doing these exams. voice stress analysis is not scientifically reliable. anybody who really knows what they're talking about will tell you about that. hypnosis creates a situation in which testimony is not admissible in court. i really don't know that that's going to be something we can rely upon. you need to know the scoring system. when i hear 99% deception, i want to know what scoring system and who has looked at these charts. jack is a guy you've had on before, a former fbi profiler, and polygrapher. i would like someone like that to take a look at this before we start using terms like filing miserably. and the question is, why is this being publicized when it has nothing to do with any evidence that might be used in the case. it seems to me like we're tainting the potential jury pool if there's going to be one, and there's really no value in

having this discussion in the public media. >> tim, let's take a quick break. obviously we're just getting started here. we'll take your calls here, 1-877-tell-hln. misty failing lie detector tests. what does it mean to the case.es pills to combat joint discomfort but is there a faster way to find relief? try new and improved elations. this delicious, once-a-day joint supplement drink is clinically proven to improve joint comfort in as little as six days. elations contains effective levels of glucosamine and chondroitin and it's more absorbable than supplement pills. in fact, some reported improved flexibility in as little as three days. improve your joint comfort with a fast alternative. try elations today. brand power. helping you buy better.

continuing our conversation, misty croslin cummings, we find out she failed a polygraph test, very basic questions, some damning questions as we look at it. failed, and the numbers are not good. we have our experts standing by. we're taking your calls, 1-877-tell-hln is the number. let's get a call in real quick. holly's with us in ohio. holly, go ahead. >> caller: hi. how are you? >> good. >> caller: hi. i believe there's some holes in her story, too. i don't believe she was home, or she knows something that happened to this little girl,

because why did she wash the baby's sheets? >> you know, when you talk about the time line, the bedding, she says -- t.j. hart's with us, he's been on this since day one. her time line was she put haleigh to bed at 8:00, she goes to bed at 10:00. but they start looking for haleigh, the bed is made. >> that is something that i was talking with members of the putnam county sheriff's office, they would not, you know, go with ronald's assessment of what he said. they would not say that's what they saw. they said that's what ronald told them. they're being coy about that issue of the investigation. but it's been one of those things where everybody is pretty much in the camp that's what happened, the bed was made. >> let's bring back our lawyer, john patrick nolan. she has not had a consistent story since little haleigh went missing. now you add in the failed lie detector test. legally, what can happen to her?

what do you to if you're investigators and you just can't get the straight scoop from her? >> well, first thing is, she should have listened to her own lawyer and not gotten involved in the polygraph. that's the first thing. the second thing is, when i hear these numbers like 99% and 42%, i want to know what kind of scoring system and who's doing the polygraph, and has anyone looked at the charts. because it's one thing to say, failed miserably. it's another thing to see whether or not this is reliable. polygraph is only as reliable as the people who do the polygraph. if i was her lawyer right now, i would say, enough with trying to go out and prove your innocence. you don't have to prove your innocence. let's see how this thing develops. i'd say, listening to her lawyer is more important than trying to -- >> let's take a quick break. i've got a statement from her lawyer. we'll also ask tim miller about who did con tuct the polygraph test. ( revving, siren blares )

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we're just getting our first look inside the home of byrd and melanie billings. cameras actually captured the minutes leading up to their brutal murder. photos and chilling new video shown in court today, from 16 surveillance cameras in the couple's florida home. the footage even shows the ninja-dressed robbers confronting the family. the most heartbreaking image, melanie billings, mom here, reaching for her child before she was gunned down. joining us, ed lavendera ho has seen the pictures and the video. ed, i'll let you describe what you see. >> reporter: well, first, i guess i should start with a little bit of background as to why this is happening today. under florida law, the way it works here is that anytime

evidence is turned over in the discovery process to defense attorneys, that makes it public record. so we were given access to see the video images and the pictures, just like any other member of the public will be given an opportunity to do that as well if they so choose. however, in this case, the billings family asked that -- asked a judge to not -- make sure that the video images and pictures not get released, or not be able to be disseminated by the news media. so the agreement here essentially under tightly controlled situation, members of the public, including us, the news media, have been allowed in to go see these video images, and with people kind of looking over our shoulders to make sure we're not reproducing them or copying them in any way. that is the caveat. we spent two and a half hours this morning looking through the video images, the surveillance camera footage, as well as about 2,000 photographs taken by crime scene photographers. so it was a rather extensive look into what has gone on in

this investigation so far. i was struck heavily by two of the camera angles inside the home. we've seen the video from outside the home where you see the red van approaching the home, several gunmen running inside. two are very striking. one you see the initial confrontation between the gunmen and byrd and melanie billings. just moments before they -- the gunmen burrs the into the home, you see a small child, between 5 to 7 years old, kind of wandering through the living room as if nothing's wrong. then that confrontation takes place. byrd billings throws his hands up in the air when he's surprised by two of the gunmen who approach from behind. he's then shot in the leg, we're told by authorities. you see him dropping to the floor. and then a little bit later on you see melanie billings reach for that child who's just a few feet away and tries to hold on to her. at some point you see one of the gunmen pick up byrd billings and put a gun to the back of their heads. byrd and melanie are moved out of the camera shot and moved to

their bedroom. what we've seen from the photographs, i'll spare you the gruesome details, that's where the murders took place. the other camera angle, video camera angle which i thought was incredibly striking, in many ways, much more powerful than seeing the actual confrontation taking place, is the video image from inside a second-floor bedroom which has a bed in the foreground and you can actually see out into the front yard through the window. you see a girl girl, young girl sleeping, between 10 and 12 years old, was my guess, and you see the red van approach justened neath the window. you see the gunmen run out of the van into the home while the girl's sleeping. there's no audio on the tape. you clearly see the girl is startled by the sounds and the gunshots. she gets up, walks to the door, comes back to the bedroom, or comes back to her bed, she hides herself underneath the covers. and appears to be covering her ears. and it's only after you see the gunmen run back outside and get into the van that the girl

realizes that those gunmen are just below her window. she race toss the window and sees the van drive off. so in a very odd way, you can kind of -- that really speaks to the trauma and the horrifying moments. less than five minutes that all of this took place inside the billings home. >> the horror of a child. what she must have gone through there, ed. is the video clear enough, ed, to where you can see exactly who the gunmen are, who shot byrd in the leg, or held a gun to his head? >> reporter: great question, mike. the video images are very dark and very grainy in many places. it is impossible to make out, you know, we have the long list of suspects in this case. i was unable to make out any particular faces. based on what we've heard, you can kind of guess as to who a couple of the people might be. but it's not based on being able to see their faces and comparing them to their mug shots, for example. impossible to tell from my perspective. but authorities and investigators say they're working with fbi teams that are enhancing that video, and then using the size of the video

images and extensive kind of analysis. they say they will be able to pinpoint exactly, and identify exactly who each of the suspects are in those video camera images. >> ed, is there a camera in the bedroom that captures the actual murders? >> reporter: you do not see that, the closest you get is that one shot of the living room. which was captured from two different angles. there's one on the second floor that looks over this big great room and kitchen area, or just off the front entrance to the home in the foyer of the home. you see it from a second floor angle, which is very hard, very grainy, very dark to see. and the first floor images is where you really get your most intense look. but once they come out of the bottom of the frame, and into the master bedroom, it is clear, you can't see anything up there. that's where we depend on the crime scene photographs to kind of piece together what had happened in there. >> okay. ed lavendera reporting for our sister network, cnn. good talking to you. coming up, lots of new angles in the case of the

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welcome back. did more than one woman help an accused killer get away with murder? shocking speculation just coming in on the man accused of killing swimsuit model, jasmine fiore. sources tell the los angeles times two women may have helped ryan jenkins while he was still on the run. then this, another model, once engaged to jenkins, is giving us all new insights into this guy. she calls him a ladies' man, charming, a real sweetheart. she nearly married the guy. here she is on the "today" show. >> this is what is so

surprising. i was with him for 2 1/2 years. we fought, just like any normal relationship. there was no signs of violence, or anything that would potentially say, well, at some point that person might commit a murder. >> all right. joining me to talk about this, clinical psychologist, karen stark. also with us, defense attorney, john patrick dolan. our hln law enforcement analyst, mike brooks. i want to get to what the ex-fiancee had to say. she dated the guy for 2 1/2 years. we'll get to that in a sec. just coming in to us now, the 911 call when the man found jasmine fiore's body inside the dumpster. let's listen to that call. >> the back building is empty, okay? and you guys, the police have been out here a couple of times for people who were evicted or something. so i came back here, and there's a big suitcase in here. i took my middle finger and lifted it up, and sure enough it looks like the body of a child in a suitcase back here. >> oh, man.

mike brooks, when you hear the man mention there the body of a child, it just speaks to what jasmine fiore went through, the mutilation, to be stuffed in a suitcase like that. >> you can't imagine, mike. he or someone else, did he act alone in this? that's the question. pulled her teeth, cut off her fingers. she was identified by her breast implants. and then folded up and put in a suitcase? you know, could this guy have done this by himself. now they discovered this car, mike, that is probably going to have a lot of evidence inside. you know, they're saying did the murder happen inside this car. there's a lot of things, especially video surveillance. it was found in the trader's joe parking lot yesterday. a lot of surveillance cameras in that area. hopefully we can find out when the car pulled in, how many people got out, was there another car that followed it in and maybe put some pieces of this puzzle in on the time line. >> there's the white vehicle, the white mercedes on the

flatbed there. mike, by having this car, will we know if she was murdered inside that vehicle? >> yes. they can probably tell, there's a lot of evidence, blood, fingerprints, trace evidence, hairs and fibers. was there a sign of a struggle. was there blood spatter inside the car. but it's going to be -- but was this the crime scene where he or someone else took the body, you know, and allegedly pulled the teeth and cut off the fingers? because there would be a lot of blood from wherever that was. or was she transported in this car. these are all questions. >> will the car tell us if someone else was involved in the murder? >> it could. unless they had on gloves. but everybody, whoever's involved in a crime, always leaves evidence at the scene. >> the "los angeles times" also reporting maybe two women helped him. the speculation is, nothing confirmed, that his half-sister, alena jenkins, helped him pay for his motel room in canada. that's the speculation. on the other side, did another woman help him go from

california to the canadian border there. john patrick dolan, get you in on this real quick. how much trouble if there's another woman helping, let's say there is, how much trouble could this person be in for helping him get to canada? >> i don't think too much. if there was a woman in washington, she would have known that the crime took place. she would have to know he was avoiding detection. you'd have to have a statement from her to prove that, and hopefully a lawyer would advise her, don't make any statements. and then there's no way to prove it. as far as the sister, if she helped him get a hotel room, she helped him in the country of canada, and our country simply doesn't have jurisdiction to prosecution who helps somebody who committed a crime here if they go to another country. frankly, i think we're stretching the point. this is a horrific, awful, terrible case. but i don't think that some women who might have helped him, maybe unknowingly, should be prosecuted. unless we really know that they participated in the homicide. that's a different story. >> yeah, exactly. as mentioned, some of the new evidence coming in, we'll find

out from the car, we'll see how that goes. guys, let's change topics a little bit, get back to the person, the ex-fiancee, on the nbc "today" show. was engaged, almost married him. listen to this ex-fiancee talk to matt lauer about the smooth operator, the charming nature of this guy. let's listen. >> swept me off my feet. a sweetheart. >> when he swept you off your feet, and here's a guy in a reality show, trying to sweep a woman off her feet, it makes it sound like he was either just a simple charming guy or a bit of a con man. is it possible that it's the latter? >> you know what, i can't really comment on that. because that's not the person that i saw. >> bring in karen stark, our psychologist. karen, so she was with a guy two and a half years. do you find it hard to believe there was no inkling to her that this guy had a violent nature? >> well, that's hard to believe that he never showed any

violence. but we do know that he's extremely manipulative. and there are many killers who are like him. he comes across even on the reality tv show very smooth and charming. kind of reminds me of the way scott peterson could be with other women. and if you think about a serial killer like ted bundy, everybody said he was a great neighbor. so they have that chameleon master of disguise kind of quality. but behind it all, they're cold-blooded. >> you look at -- according to her time line, they broke up in august. a year ago. and they were together two and a half years. well, within that time frame, again, this is according to her time line, he was charged with assault, hitting another woman in the back of the head. >> what does that tell you? if he's hitting another woman, just not her? >> caryn, is this a guy, if he's getting what he wants, when he wants it, how he wants it, it's okay. but if things go awry, he's capable of what we've seen as

things ended up tragic. >> extremely aggressive and able to put it out there. and also in some ways, he could turn that aggression onto himself as we know in the end when he was trapped and he killed himself. it's hard to believe she never saw an inkling of that other side of his personality. >> she said they argued like any other couple. but how violent did these confrontations with him get with the ex? she didn't say. >> yeah. >> and that's true. he's right. >> guys, we've got to take a quick break now. we appreciate it. coming up, you know, this is that time of year, football, we're getting ready for football. a high school coach is facing serious charges. ready to stand trial for the death of one of his players. a 15-year-old, practicing in the heat. his body temperature rose to 107. how responsible is this coach. f we'll take your calls, 1-877-tell-hln.iees, and they'll match any advertised price. so instead of searching for "deals" out there... you can go back to school for less, right here.

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this is a tragic case. 15-year-old football player, pushed to the limit, running sprints, during drills, scorching heat out there. heat index 94. max gillpin just a sophomore at pleasure ridge park high school, louisville, kentucky. he collapsed during the preseason practice, it was last august. his body temperature hit 107. he died three days later. now his coach is going on trial facing serious criminal charges. i want to bring in richelle carey. take us back, richelle. >> the prosecutors are saying they're denying players waters, running extra sprints on punish. back in the day in august. the coach is criticized for the way he handled practice. he's pleading not guilty to charges of both reckless homicide, and wanton endangerment. now, there's a move happening that could really blow this case wide open.

defense attorneys claim prosecutors didn't disclose a doctor's opinion that the teen's death was a tragic accident, not a homicide. despite despite gillpin's 107 degree body temperature the defense also claims that dehydration was not a factor in his death. stinson is scheduled to go on trial on august 31st. he has been replaced as head coach. really a sad case. >> it is. okay, richelle, thanks for that. joining me to talk about this now, i want to bring in a man who's played the game, has a son who plays it, steve diosi joins us now, former nfl linebacker, nfl analyst for weei radio in boston. steve, good to have you aboard. >> thank you. >> well, let's first off hit on that day. what we know. heat index 94. that's hot. to me anyway. and i love the game of football, played some high school ball myself, my kids play it, and i love that toughness that it brings. but i don't think that's the day to be running tough sprints, when it's that hot. >> as a coach, especially in

this day and age with all the information available to any coach out there simply on the internet alone, you have to understand what your kids are going through, you have to realize what position you're putting them in, and you have to realize that in any given situation you want to err on the side of caution. and in this situation, 94 degrees puts up a huge red flag. it's almost unheard of nowadays for coaches not to pay attention to that. >> are coaches better now, steve? rur your son plays, plays for the giants. you've been through it for years. >> well, i played youth sports back in the '70s, when it was de rigueur for guys to think you were making players tougher by not letting them have water, by running them a little extra, and there was a little stigma attached to if you had to take a break and go get water, and that was perpetuated not only by your coaches but by your teammates. >> let's take a quick break. they said it would never last.

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unbelievable story here. a kidnapped 11-year-old girl found alive nearly two decades later. jaycee dugard snatched from her street, 150 yards from her house, this is back in '91, then suddenly yesterday she walks into a police station. her mom gets that phone call. hears that voice. a voice she's been waiting 18 years to hear. and running some tough, tough drills in scorching heat, a teenage football player dies. body temperature 107. former coach is now going on trial facing serious criminal charges including reckless homicide. should the coach be held responsible? take your calls as always.

you know the number. 1-877-tell-hln. you can also e-mail us, cnn.com/primenews or text us at hlntv, just start your message with the word "prime." it's your chance to be heard. >> controversy, opinion. your point of view. this is "prime news." welcome. this is hour number two of "prime news." i'm mike galanos. kidnapped 18 years ago, an 11-year-old girl is now a 29-year-old woman, and she's alive and well. jayceeduguard's who we're talking about. she walked into a police station in california yesterday. right now two people are in custody. take you back. 1991. dugard grabbed walking to her school bus stop just 150 yards from her home. her dad was inside the house, actually saw the car pull up and take her. couldn't imagine the horror, the nightmare he's relived over these last almost two decades. her family now in complete shock. listen to the emotion. here's jaycee's stepfather. >> my wife called me in, basically said are you silting

down? i say yes. she goes, they found jaycee. and she paused ten seconds. and she goes, she's alive. and we both cried for about ten minutes. as a matter of fact, my voice hasn't come back yet. and we just talked. and she had told me that she actually talked to jaycee on the telephone. >> the emotions there. we just want to let you know we're awaiting a news conference right now in placerville, california. el dorado county sheriff's department. they're going to be giving us the briefing. now, she was found in the bay area. but placerville is in el dorado county. that's where she went missing back in 1991, south lake tahoe to be exact. we'll take your calls on this. 1-877-tell-hln. joining us, our hln law enforcement analyst mike brooks, and also with us, henry lee, reporter for the "san francisco chronicle." henry joining us by phone. henry, what do you know about what happened at that police station yesterday? >> well, looks like a very alert uc berkeley authorities actually realized that this guy was with

a number of children, grew suspicious, had the suspect talk to his probation officer in concord. that person then led everyone to the police station in concord, california and lo and behold, they realized that the young woman that was with him was in fact jaycee dugard. >> clear this up for me. the suspect is phillip garido, right? >> that's right. >> so all the focus was on him. why? because he's a registered sex offender? >> that's right. he is listed on the california department of justice website as a registered sex offender for a rape conviction. he also has a history in nevada and a federal kidnapping conviction. so he's got a lot of history. but how he fell under the radar for 18 years, mike, is is still under investigation. >> real quick let's go to mike brooks. mike, so take it as an investigator. how do you think this unfold 1234d ed? so somebody as henry said had the smarts. take it from there. >> something we hadn't heard,

the uc berkeley police contacted probation, probation then contacted concord police and apparently they came in and the officer there ran his name and came one all this information. the question i have is, mike, okay, he did some federal time for kidnapping, he's a registered sex offender. by law, by state law and federal law, you have to, if you move from one location to another location, you have to let the loc local jurisdiction know where you're living. maybe he's been living here this whole time and if he's not moving around his name didn't pop up on the radar screen. >> henry, let's get back to that. let me hit on jaycee first. how is she? do we know what she told police? >> we know that she was reunited with her mother, terry, this morning in the bay area. we do not have details. we're going to get details as to what may have been happening to her over the past 18 years. unfortunately, the couple in custody was arrested on suspicion of sexual assault charges, lewd and lascivious conduct for the male half, and both were arrested for kidnapping and conspiracy. >> just want to let everybody know we're waiting on a news

conference from placerville, california. it's el dorado county. that's the county where jaycee originally went missing back in 1991. i'm watching the monitor here. there's some activity. so it should happen any moment. in the meantime, we'll continue our conversation. mike brooks, henry lee with us. we'll take your calls. 1-877-tell-hln. the phone number. let's get a phone call in. tammy's with us in ohio. tammy, go ahead. >> caller: hi. i think it is remarkable that one of our children is returned home safely. and i commend this p.o. that noticed that something may not have been right in the home. and also, i know this young girl, young lady now, has had to probably give her statement over and over to several different law enforcement and her mother and her family probably already know what has happened to her. my question is what healing process, you know, does this family have to start to go through to get, you know, through to a normal society, which this girl probably knows nothing about? >> you know, we had -- thanks for your call, tammy, we had a

chance to talk to psychologist karyn stark in the last hour. that was the question i had, especially on jayce's side, who's gone through hell since she was 11 years old. and basically the psychologist said it's going to be mixed emotio emotions. as an 11-year-old the psychologist speculates she probably blames herself partially for what happened to her. so there's a lot of healing and it's going to be slow. but as of right now we're hoping it was a joyous reunion in the morning between jaycee and her mom, terry probin. again, press conference coming up any moment in placerville, california. hoping to find out more details about what many are dubbing as a miraculous twist to this story. jaycee lee dugard found 18 years later alive and well. pnip]p]ppp

welcome back to "prime news" on hln. continuing. this is just an incredible story. back in 1991 an 11-year-old, jaycee lee dugard, was kidnapped 150 yards from her home. an innocent theme you have there, an 11-year-old walking to a bus stop to go to school. her stepfather saw it unfold. now 18 years later she walks ton a police station and she is found, alive, hopefully well. it sounds like she went through some hell. we've got a news conference now going on in placerville, california. let's listen in. >> the speaker's going to be undersheriff fred kohler, and his name is spelled k-o-l-l-a-r. while there's -- >> they're just getting ready for the press conference there in placerville, california. that's in el dorado county. that's the county where jaycee originally went missing, was kidnapped, south lake tahoe,

back in 1991. we'll take your calls. 1-877-tell-hln. we'll go to that press conference when it starts. should be any second now. henry lee's with us, been covering it for the "san francisco chronicle." mike brooks with us as well, hln law enforcement analyst. guys, is it started? we got something going there? not yet? not yet. okay. let's continue on. all right, henry, phillip garrido, nancy garrido, they are arrested. do we believe that jaycee was with them the entire 18 years? >> hopefully, we'll find that out. but suffice it to say her whereabouts have been unknown until today. we do know that both husband and wife are in custody. fbi investigators are searching their home in antioch, california, which is east of concord in the east bay. and we will see what, if anything, these individuals are telling the investigators. >> okay. do we have any idea -- you mentioned. i'll ask anyway. i'm sure there's a lot of reports flying around there. what do we know, henry-b the 18 years? was it straight from south lake tahoe to antioch, or do we have

any idea? >> that's unclear to me. but what we do know, i've run records on this couple. looks like they have moved around in contra costa county, which is the county just east of oakland, california. so these guys probably did move around p unclear exactly how x÷ long they've lived in antioch, but they certainly have a history as far as the male suspect. he's got kidnapping convictions and of course is a registered sex offender. and as you know, you're supposed to register wherever you live. unclear why this girl,wom woman, flew under the radar. >> real quick i just want to let everyone know that's nancy garrrido the wife of phillip garrido. she's charged as well. mike, go ahead. >> i'm really surprised, if he had a probation officer that henry was speaking about, did the probation officer know this woman had was living with him? how many probation officers had he had over the years? these are all questions and things they're going to be looking for in this investigation. and the fbi evidence response team, they're on the scene, they're going to go through all

his records. they're going to go back all the way back to 1991, and it shouldn't be too hard to find out exactly where he was during this time period. >> let's talk about his history, mike. this is a guy, he was convicted for rape by force. federal records show him serving a stint in federal prison, leavenwor leavenworth, back in the 1980s. i mean, shouldn't we have a close watch on a guy like that, that he could just -- do you think he just slipped through the cracks? >> that's a great question. going back to 1991, i mean, his conviction when he served time in leavenworth was back in the '80s. and once you're released, back then it wasn't like it is now with some registered sex offenders where you put a monitoring device on your ankle. they didn't have technology lik that back then. so maybe he was out of his probationary period and didn't have to check in with anybody. these are all questions that we don't know right now. >> okay. let's go back to henry lee again, reporting on this for the "san francisco chronicle." henry, you mentioned, so already jaycee's been reunited with her mom, correct? >> that is correct. >> okay. so mom's there. other family members?

has anybody talked yet about what's going to -- how jaycee's going to basically start a new life? >> exactly. you keep in mind, as you know, a lot happens in 18 years. she may not know what is going on with her immediate family. they did have a conversation, mother and daughter, last night. and a lot can happen, obviously in 18 years. the stepfather told me this morgan by phone from orange county he had almost given up hope and was almost expecting some kind of a recovery. and imagine the phone call he got at 4:00 p.m. yesterday when his wife, from whom he is separated, said are you sitting down? they found jaycee alive. >> yeah, he had mentioned that they cried for the first ten minutes. and he said his voice hasn't come back since. who could blame him? the emotion that's they must be going through and the strain on their life, their marriage after this. just unthinkable when we talk about that.

henry, what else are police saying right now? are they talking anything else about what jaycee has told them right now? is she just under wraps right now? >> yeah, right now they're not telling us what, if anything, the woman has told the police. obviously at one point the couple was in jail in martinez, but at some point, i'm assuming that federal agents swooped in and removed the couple from that jail, probably undergoing an intensive interview, interrogation if you will. >> henry, mike, thanks so much.

welcome back. haleigh cummings' stepmom, misty, has taken several new polygraphs, and in the words of one observer she failed miserably. little haleigh disappeared from her bed in satsuma, florida six months ago. her stepmom says she was sleeping when someone broke in and took haleigh. now we're finding out about

these new polygraphs, one taken just last week. misty's results going to blow you away. here's just one of the questions she was asked. do you know what happened to haleigh? misty, no. the result, 99% deception. wow, what are the police going to do with this? >> it indicated that misty was deception indicated, is the official statement. which is no surprise to us. we've said all along that misty has been inconsistent in her statement. and i agree with the point that was made by tim miller's investigator, which is that misty's consistency is inconsistency. >> very well put. she's been inconsistent with her timeline and what happened really since day one. we'll take your calls on this one, 1-877-tell-hln. joining us to talk about it, john patrick dolan, criminal defense attorney. also with us, tim miller, director texas equusearch. t.j. hart will join us shortly in gainesville, florida. tim, let's start with you.

you pretty much orchestrated, conducted this search, correct? >> we did a big search when haleigh first disappeared. we were helping the law enforcement doing a search. and misty -- or ronald's mother, actually, contacted martin james and felt there wasn't enough attention being put on haleigh's disappearance and wanted another search. and i actually had to go to orlando anyhow on some paperwork on the hearing on caylee anthony. so we went ahead and met with the cummings family. and we agreed to go ahead and do some more searches, whatever we could do to go ahead and get her located. and misty just said that, you know what, she just wanted to take the focus off of her, felt as though law enforcement wasn't being honest with her, that she wanted to clear her name. and she asked me, is there any way i can take a polygraph, because i don't trust law enforcement. so i contacted an extremely reputable polygrapher in the orlando area that polygraphed

her. and of course she didn't have the money to do it. so we went ahead and paid for that. and there were just four questions asked. basically we figured this was going to be a 30-minute polygraph. it ended up 5 1/2 hours. she failed the questions. literally just miserably. and, you know, and we asked her to clarify some of these questions. she really got upset. she stormed out of the room. she went to leave, and then she said, "well, tim, i really need to talk to you." she said, "it seems like maybe i was dreaming or something, i woke up, it seems like maybe there was four people in the house. i really don't know." she says is there any way we can do a truth serum or be hypnotized? i said, is this what you really want to do? she said, yes, i have to clear myself. everybody thinks i'm lying. and she says, "is there any way we can do a voice test? i hear they work." so i contacted t.j. ward out of atlanta, which i worked with him in aruba in natalee holloway's disappearance. basically one of the experts in

voice analysis. agreed to do it. and then i contacted, i made contact, a lot of research, contacted a hypnotist that's actually retired from nypd, a detective, been doing it for 35 years. everything was just miserably failed. >> okay, everything, whether it be -- let's go through some of the questions here. we went through one just a moment ago. here's another one. did you intentionally withhold any information regarding haleigh's disappearance? misty answers no. 99% deception again on that front. let's bring in our lawyer, john patrick dolan, real quick, and we'll take a break. john, seems this is pretty damning, isn't it? as a lawyer -- go ahead. >> there's a couple of problems here. first of all, at first blush this does sound damning. but i would want to know who are the people that are doing these exams. voice stress analysis is not scientifically reliable. anybody who really knows what they're talking about will tell you about that.

hypnosis creates a situation in which testimony is not admissible in court. i really don't know that that's going to be something we can rely upon. you need to know the scoring system. when i hear 99% deception, i want to know what scoring system and who has looked at these charts. jack tremarco is a guy you've had on before, a former fbi profiler and polygrapher. i would like someone like that to take a look at this before we start using terms like failing miserably. and the question is, why is this being publicized when it has nothing to do with any evidence that might be used in the case? it seems to me like we're tainting the potential jury pool if there's going to be one, and there's no real value in having this discussion in the public media. >> tim, the person -- okay. let's take a quick break. obviously we're just getting started here. we'll take your calls here, 1-877-tell-hln. misty failing lie detector tests. what's it mean to the case? more coming up.

we're just getting our first look inside the home of byrd and melanie billings. cameras actually captured the minutes leading up to their brutal murder. hundreds of photos and chilling new video shown in court today. from 16 surveillance cameras in the couple's florida home. the footage even shows those ninja-dressed robbers confronting the family. the most heartbreaking image, melanie billings, mom here, reaching for her child before she was gunned down. joining us, ed lavandera from our sister network, cnn, who has seen the pictures and the video. ed, i'll let you describe. what did you see? >> reporter: well, first, i guess i should start with a little bit of background as to why this is happening today. but under florida law the way it works here is anytime evidence

is turned over in the discovery process to defense attorneys that makes it public record. so we were given access to see the video images and the pictures, just like any other member of the public will be given an opportunity to do that as well if they so choose. however, in this case, the billings family asked that -- asked the judge to not -- to make sure that those video images and pictures not get released, or not be able to be disseminated by the news media. the judge has agreed. so the agreement here essentially under very tightly controlled situation, members of the public, including us, the news media, have been allowed in to go see these video images, and with people kind of looking over our shoulders to make sure we're not reproducing them or copying them in any way. that is the caveat. we spent two and a half hours this morning looking through the video images, the surveillance camera footage, as well as about 2,000 photographs taken by crime scene photographers. so it was a rather extensive

look into what has gone on in this investigation so far. i was struck heavily by two of the camera angles inside the home. we've seen the video from outside the home where you see the red van approaching the home, several gunmen running inside. but two angles in particular are very striking. the first one is where you see the initial confrontation between the gunmen and byrd and melanie billings. just moments before they -- the gunmen burst into the home you see a small child, i guess anywhere between 5 to 7 years old, kind of wandering through the living room as if nothing's wrong. and then that confrontation takes place. byrd billings throws his hands up in the air when he's surprised by two of the gunmen, who approach from behind. he's then shot in the leg, we're told by authorities. you see him dropping to the floor. and then a little bit later on you see melanie billings reach for that child who's just a few feet away and tries to hold on to her. at some point you see one of the gunmen pick up byrd billings and put a gun to the back of his head. byrd and melanie are then moved

out of the camera shot and into their bedroom. based on what we've seen of the photographs, and i'll spare you the gruesome details, that's where the murders took place. the other camera angle, video camera angle which i thought was incredibly striking, and in many ways much more powerful than seeing the actual confrontation taking place, is the video image from inside a second-floor bedroom which has a bed in the foreground and you can actually see out into the front yard through the window. you see a girl, a young girl sleeping, anywhere between the ages of 10 and 12 years old was my guess. and you see the van, the red van approach just underneath the window. you see the gunmen race out of the van into the home while the girl's sleeping. there's no audio on the tape. but you can clearly see that the girl is startled by the sounds and the gunshots. she gets up, walks to the door, comes back to the bedroom, or comes back to her bed, she hides herself underneath the covers. and appears to be covering her ears. and it's only after you see the gunmen run back outside and get into the van that the girl realizes that those gunmen are just below her window.

she races to the window and sees the van drive off. so in a very odd way you can kind of -- that really speaks to the trauma and the horrifying moments. less than five minutes that all of this took place inside the billings home. >> the horror of a child. what she must have gone through there, ed. is the video clear enough, ed, to where you can see exactly who the gunmen are, who shot byrd in the leg, or held a gun to his head? >> reporter: great question, mike. the video images are very dark and very grainy in many places. it is impossible to make out -- you know, we have the long list of suspects in this case. i was unable to make out any particular faces. based on what we've heard, you can kind of guess as to who a couple of the people might be. but it's not based on being able to see their faces and comparing them to their mug shots, for example. so it's impossible to tell from that, from my perspective. but authorities and investigators say that they're working with fbi teams that are enhancing that video and then using the size of the video images and extensive kind of

analysis. they say they will be able to pinpoint exactly, and identify exactly who each of the suspects are in those video camera images. >> ed, is there a camera in the bedroom that captures the actual murders? >> reporter: you do not see that. the closest you get is that one shot of the living room. which was captured from two different angles. there's one on the second floor that looks over this big great room and kitchen area, or just off the front entrance to the home in the foyer of the home. you see it from a second floor angle, which is very hard, very grainy, very dark to see. and then the first floor images is where you really get your most intense look. but once they come out of the bottom of the frame and into the master bedroom, it is clear, you can't see anything up there. that's where we depend on the crime scene photographs to kind of piece together what had happened in there. >> okay. ed lavandera reporting for our sister network, cnn. ed, thanks for the insights. good talking to you. coming up, lots of new angles in the case of the murdered swimsuit model, jasmine fiore. her car is found, the white

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welcome back to "prime news" on hln. a press conference just started a few moments ago about the girl missing for 18 years. jaycee dugard. abducted as she walked to her bus stop when she was just 11. she's been found, found alive as she walked into a police station. we're getting more details. let's listen to some of that press conference, again, going on in el dorado county, where she was originally taken. >> very happy to be in front of you under these circumstances. jaycee dugard was found alive in antioch -- excuse me. she was found alive in antioch. just to remind you just a little

bit, she was kidnapped in june of 1991. she was taken off the street in front of her house. as you all know, there was nothing then, nor is there anything now to indicate that this was anything other than a stranger abduction of an 11-year-old. on august 25th, tuesday, the uc berkeley police encountered a suspect, phillip garrido, seeking access to the uc berkeley campus. this alert berkeley police officer took notice of phillip garrido and two young women who were in his custody. federal -- i'm sorry, police officers looked into garrido's background and found out he was on federal parole overseen by the california department of corrections and rehabilitation. garrido was convicted of crimes in 1971 involving rape and kidnapping. uc police contacted state parole, which resulted in garrido having a follow-up visit at the state parole office. garr -- certainly. garrido brought along with him two minors as well as nancy garrido and a female named

alyssa. a-l-l-i-s-s-a. the parole agent had never seen these individuals, allissa and the two young children during his visits at the house and thought that the females in garrido's company were sxshs contacted the concord police department. ultimately the female named allissa was identified as jaycee dugard. subsequent interviews with jaycee and the garridos provided information that only the victim and the kidnappers could know. dna confirmation is being sought to confirm jaycee's identity. the garridos, nancy and the male, were taken into custody. an investigation led to their residence in antioch. the two minor children turned out to be children of jaycee and the male suspect, garrido. they along with nancy garrido were living together at the administration in antioch since the original kidnapping. a search of the residence revealed a hidden back yard within a back yard. the hidden back yard had sheds, tents, and outbuildings where jaycee and the girls spent most of their lives. there was a vehicle hidden in

the back yard that matched the vehicle originally described at the time of the abduction. the tents and outbuildings in the back yard were placed in a strategic arrangement to inhibit outside viewing and to isolate the victims from outside contact. family reunification has begun and will be a long and ongoing process. the victim witness from el dorado county d.a.'s office, the fbi, as well as the national center for missing and exploited children are involved in that process. both suspects are now currently in custody in the el dorado county jail. we would like to thank our many law enforcement partners, uc berkeley police, california department of corrections and rehabilitation, the concord police department, the antioch police department, the fbi and the el dorado county d.a.'s office for their cooperation in this matter. photos of both suspects are on our website, and we would welcome any additional information linking them to this or any other criminal activity. please feel free to call 53 -- i'm sorry, 530-642-4747 with any additional information. and before i field any

questions, i'd like to defer to my partner with the fbi and also the d.a., who has some additional information to provide. then the three of us will be available for follow-up questions. >> good afternoon, everyone. in 1991 the fbi opened a kidnapping investigation and has been working it jointly with the el dorado county sheriff's office on the disappearance of jaycee dugard. on the day that she arrived at the parole officer's office with the subjects, the concord police department contacted the fbi in san francisco to advise them that jaycee lee dugard was alive. in -- subsequently, the fbi in san francisco contacted fbi sacramento to report to us the findings. the case agent on the matter, who has been assigned to the case for the last 18 years, is

in the south lake tahoe resident agency of the sacramento division of the fbi. i contacted him. he immediately responded. and we continue to work jointly with the el dorado county sheriff's office in furtherance of this investigation. >> i'd be happy to answer any questions, but just to bring some -- some calm to this -- hang on for one second, please. if you have a question, please raise your hand. i'll try to take them in the order that they come up. if i can't answer your question -- >> you've been listening to a press conference going on in el dorado county. that's the county, south lake tahoe, to be exact, where jaycee dugard was originally taken back in 1991. and we're getting now a clearer picture of what happened. let me recap for you. as we're piecing this together, listening. again, she was kidnapped 1991 on her way to the bus stop. a little over 100 yards from her own house. we know she was taken by phillip garrido and his wife, nancy

garrido. some of the more disturbing details we're getting, phillip garrido fathered two children with jaycee dugard. those children we believe are age 11 and 15. so if you do the math, that means when jaycee was 14 she gave birth to her first child, a daughter, and then another child at age 18. now, where did -- how were they concealed? we're getting -- the picture is being painted that there was a back yard but there was a back yard within a back yard, basically concealed all the way around to anybody on the outside. the way it's been told to us, you have two sheds. one shed soundproof, maybe to hold them when they were babies. a couple of tents. that's where jaycee and the two kids were living. basically, they were just isolated from the outside world. how this came to a head, we're finding out, that phillip garrido and his two children that he had with jaycee dugard went to uc berkeley, the campus there, they wanted to be able to

speak in public, hand out literature. what we don't know. but to do that you need a background check. and that's the break authorities needed, as they did the background check on this guy. they were suspicious. and they were able to figure out who he was. and ultimately jaycee lee dugard was found alive and well as she went to a police station. guys, we're going on a break, or do we want to continue here? i guess we're going to continue -- let's take a break. okay. let's take a quick break. @úp÷x÷

welcome back to "prime news" on hln. continuing our coverage of this story that is incredible and -- equal parts incredible and disturbing. we're talking about jaycee dugard. kidnapped back in 1991 when she was 11 years old. 18 years later she's found alive. is she well? we're still trying to -- we're still figuring that out. and let's face it, when we hear

this story -- when we first hear it, we're jubilant that, yes, one of these types of stories can have an ending like this. where now at age of 29 jaycee dugard is found alive. but the disturbing details somewhat temper our enthusiasm. again, we are happy she's alive and relatively well. living in a back yard for 18 years. let's bring in mike brooks, hln law enforcement analyst. mike, first let's hit on the good side here. the police -- the folks at berkeley, when garrido and the two little kids that he had with jaycee dugard were on the campus there and they wanted to be able to talk openly, they did the background check and that instinct went off, didn't it? and that's why we have jaycee now. >> yeah, apparently that uc berkeley officer, she saw something that just wasn't right, went ahead and ran his name, got his information, and then he came over back over to the parole office -- you know, these two kids, 11 and 15, both girls, mike. so my hat's off to good police work. and then the parole officer, you

know, he's under supervised parole, visitations. apparently, the officer would come to the house, but the sheriff said every time he would come to the house he these kids. never saw jaycee, never saw the other two. >> that's what everybody is asking at home. how could this guy -- he spent time in leavenworth for rape. how could his house not be checked, be able to have a concealed backyard to harbor jaycee and these kids? >> that's a great question. earlier today i was seeing the fbi's evidence response team from the aerial shots we were looking at. i saw a tarp up. having been a member of the fbi's er team myself, i said there's something else outside the house. now we hear this. you look at the house, mike. we're not talking about a rural area. it's not that big of a house. you know, if i'm parole officer. from now on if they make visitations they're going to

say, let me look around a little more. there was a little slit in a tarp that went back to a series of sheds. they've never been to a doctor. the kids have never been to school. it's amazing to me. >> jaycee, herself, has lived in a backyard for 18 years. i'm going to go to dan simon. covering this for our sister network cnn. anything to add as we listen to the press conference? you're in antioch outside the home there. >> reporter: i can tell you authorities are at the home. i'm going to step out of the way here. you can see all these cars still outside. this started very early this morning. this just shows you obviously a lot of evidence to go through. the fact there was a so-called backyard within a backyard is unbelievable. we're told authorities really had a hard time -- >> dan, quick break. more on the other side. stay with us. ayo hide it. sir, have you been drinking tonight?

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