tv Nancy Grace HLN August 28, 2009 1:00am-2:00am EDT
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breaking news tonight, florida. a 5-year-old little girl tucked into bed. five hours later, she's gone. vanished into thin air. the back door propped wide open. daddy comes home from the night shift to find not a trace of little haleigh. bombshell tonight. we learn girlfriend/babysitter misty croslin, the last known person to see haleigh alive flunked a private polygraph. flunked "miserably." not only that, reports she flunked a voice stress test as well. more disheartening, croslin changes her story.
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now saying up to four people in the home the night haleigh goes missing, but calling it a dream-like memory. this on the heels of police announcing haleigh was not kidnapped by a stranger. repeat, it was no stranger that snuck into the home that night and snatched the little girl. investigators say croslin refuses to give straight answers and to account for crucial hours surrounding haleigh's disappearance. in another stunning twist, cops reveal physical evidence at the crime scene contradicts croslin's story. tonight, where is 5-year-old florida girl haleigh? >> misty croslin-cummings told kim miller with equusearch she wanted to clear her name. so she set up a polygraph.
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she failed it miserably. >> it indicated that misty was deception indicated is the official statement. which is no surprise to us. we've said all along that misty has been inconsistent in her statements. >> i just woke up and my back door was open and i can't find my daughter. >> can't find what? >> our daughter. >> miller said she told him she wanted to clear her name, so he set up a polygraph. she failed it miserably. miller says croslin wanted to do more, and so he set up a voice analysis test and failed that, too. >> did you intentionally withhold any information regarding haleigh's disappearance? her answer was no. she failed it miserably with a 99% deception. >> she's gone. that's all i know. when i woke up, when i went to sleep she was there and then when i woke up, she was gone. >> here's the back door and here's the lock. it sticks. so there you go.
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now we open the back door and here is the back screen door. the one that was propped open with the cinderblock, okay? now if you see, when you close, it slams. it makes a loud noise. but if you leave this door, this slowly closes as well. >> i just want everybody to know that i didn't do anything with that little girl. i loved her like she's my own, and i'll do anything to get her back. >> i agree with the point that was made by tim miller's investigator, which is that misty's consistency is inconsistency. >> you'll do anything? then tell the truth. and breaking news. live to l.a., a quiet apartment community reeling after a suitcase discovered in a communal dumpster opened to reveal a female body. identity unsolved for days, much less how she came to be murdered and then thrown away like trash. the body inside that suitcase,
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28-year-old model jasmine fiore. brutally beaten, her teeth pulled out of her head, her fingers removed, cut off to conceal identity. how did they i.d. the body? serial numbers off of fiore's breast implants. her body that traumatized. in a bizarre twist, a reality tv star wanted for the murder found dead in a hotel room. 32-year-old ryan jenkins luxury bmw and empty boat trailer abandoned at the u.s./canadian border. jenkins, dead, hanging by a belt from this coat rack inside this hotel room. jenkins traveling with an alleged accomplice, a mystery blond who checks him into the hotel while he stays hidden. was the blond with him in l.a.? did she help in the task of dismembering and disposing of fiore's body? bombshell tonight. 911 calls released.
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we have the audio. and in another stunning development, photos surface of fiore and her ex-husband just days before the murder. did the murder occur during a jealous rage? fiore's missing black-top mercedes located in a hollywood parking lot. and this hour, techs combing every inch of the car. tonight, jenkins' ex-fiancee and his family members fire back.
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not only that, croslin reportedly flunks a voice stress test. this as cops announce it was no stranger that kidnapped little 5-year-old haleigh from her own bed. >> i laid down. it was about -- i'm not positive what time. it was like 3:00. you know, i seen 3:00. 3:00 in the morning. i got up and i got up because i had to use the bathroom but i didn't make it to the bathroom. i seen the kitchen light on. i walked in the kitchen, and the back door was wide open. i didn't notice about haleigh until i seen the back door open. >> the back door has two locks on the door. the second lock that you would have to turn is a tight lock, so it wouldn't be likely that little haleigh would have been able to turn the lock and then let herself out the door.
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>> misty cummings was the last person to see the girl before she disappeared from the florida home in february. she insists she has no idea where haleigh is. but the director of the texas company equusearch says cummings failed the polygraph test that she took voluntarily to try to clear her name. >> do you know where haleigh is now? she answered that. it was 95% deception. the fourth question was do you know who took haleigh? she answered no and it came back 42% deception. >> obviously, you're saying that this laceration was caused by the father. it came from a fall from the monkey bars according to this school report. >> straight out to t.j. hart program and news director at wsky joining us from gainesville. this is a major development in the case. the last known person, which is where every investigation starts, was misty croslin, the last known person to see the little girl alive.
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this case has been stymied at a standstill for months, and now we learn she flunked -- not flunks, but flunks with flying colors, a polygraph, t.j. hart. >> indeed she did. the fact, she has to take this polygraph to clear her name. the last time we spoke on your program, we talked about a message that was issued by the putnam county sheriff's office in a press release on haleigh's 6th birthday that asked the public to come forward with information they may have had on misty cummings' whereabouts the night the child disappeared. they said the story had been inconsistent. now it appears that misty had asked to get a polygraph taken care of. through tim miller with equusearch. he arranged a team, and like you said, flunked with flying colors. on top of that, still more inconsistencies arose from some of the stories she told them and that's according to the putnam county sheriff's office, who has received copies of this so far. one of them is with that
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timeline once again where she claims she put haleigh down at 8:00 p.m. and herself went to sleep at 10:00, woke up at 3:00 to find haleigh gone. guess what? ronald cummings says that bed was made. didn't appear that anybody had been to bed. it kind of contradicts a few things that have been mentioned earlier in that stream of inconsistent stories. so a lot of things -- happening really fast. >> ronald cummings -- with me, t.j. hart from wsky. are you telling me -- let me get this straight. she says she realizes the little girl is gone at 3:00 a.m. the little girl's bed about three feet away from her own, but ronald cummings comes home from the night shift and the bed is made up? >> that is what we are being told are the results of the questioning that took place over that two-day period, nancy. >> all i can say to that person
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i need somebody to be here now. >> i got up because i had to use the bathroom, but i didn't make it to the bathroom. i seen the kitchen light on and i walked in the kitchen and the back door was wide open. >> right beside me on my left is the bed where misty croslin was sleeping, and here on the right we have the bed where little haleigh was sleeping. and you can see it is all but about 3 1/2 feet from each other. and this is right where misty got up and had to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night. now, where i'm facing right now is the master bathroom. through the living room is the other bathroom in the house. you have to remember, she said when she got up to go to the bathroom she saw the kitchen light was on. the kitchen is over this way. that means she would have gotten up and gone out this door and then have noticed. >> do you believe that misty was, indeed, home and she's been telling the truth? >> yeah, i believe she's telling the truth. >> it's my understanding that misty did execute the polygraph
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and was pressured to do so. she was apparently -- i've confirmed this with mr. terry shoemaker, who is mr. ronald cummings' new attorney. and it's my understanding from both mist eronald and ronald's grandmother, that mr. miller was present and he apparently made a statement that if she did not take the polygraph, they were not going to bring the search teams in and search for haleigh. >> we are taking your calls live in a stunning development in the search for little haleigh cummings, missing out of satsuma, florida. we now learned that the last known person to see her alive, the person that allegedly put her to bed around 8:00 p.m. realized she was missing at 3:00 a.m., has flunked a polygraph. she was not forced into this polygraph. she asked for the polygraph. that's our understanding. what about it, to mark, the attorney for tim miller with texas' equusearch. what about it, mark? >> good evening, nancy.
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no, she -- she made the request. we got contacted by theresa nieves. the family all wanted to know what happened to this child. it was made very clear that we were only there to help out concerning finding this child. she wanted to clear her name, so we started out that way. >> and she flunked up to 99%? >> as i understand it, three of the questions were 95% to 99%. >> to mark nejame, a well-respected attorney, joining us out of the orlando area. mark, did she also flunk a voice stress test? >> yeah. after the results came in, clearly not in the direction that she wanted, she wanted to continue clearing her name. so tim went to satsuma, the town where they -- where they're from, and two different tests were administered. one was, in fact, the voice stress analysis. and apparently the results and
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the opinion was -- >> let me guess, she flunked that, too? >> same type of results, according to tim, and the same -- same percentages, basically. and then hypnosis was requested. and attempted and unfortunately, the results were that she was not willing to allow herself to be -- to go under. and if somebody is not willing to do that, then the tests are really of little value. >> so she would not go along with the hypnosis? >> according to tim. >> straight out to mike brooks. explain to me how a polygraph and a stress test -- a voice stress test works. >> a polygraph basically monitors changes in the body. it monitors your vital signs, your blood pressure, your respiration, your -- the sweat. >> sweat. >> exactly. the sweat on your hands. as the polygrapher is giving the test. now, i'm not real crazy about voice stress analysis. i think the polygraph is a better investigative tool. it's been used for years and
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years. and apparently, you know, tim miller is saying that the -- you know, the person who gave the test, who administered the polygraph, is a very, very experienced person. so i had -- i've used it many times when i was with the fbi. it's only as good as the person who is administering it, nancy. >> i have great faith in polygraph tests for the most part, if i know what the questions are and who is giving the polygraph. we're taking your calls live. out to susan in maine. hi, susan. >> caller: hi, nancy. god bless you. thank you for being there for all of us. >> thank you. >> caller: i would like to know if a person consistently flunks a polygraph test as this young woman has, why don't the police have the right to arrest her or do they? >> well, there's a little thing called the constitution that gets in the way of that. unleash the lawyers. mickey sherman, criminal defense attorney, author of "how can you defend those people" and richard herman, veteran trial lawyer out
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of the new york jurisdiction. what about it, richard? >> nancy, you know these tests are not admissible. >> wait. before you say that, if both parties consent -- >> yeah. >> -- then it is admissible. so be careful what you say and how you phrase these assertions you're making. >> okay. when you are a rock-star prosecutor in atlanta, if i sent you a polygraph exonerating my client, what would you do with that report, nancy? >> if that's what you sent me, and i knew nothing more about it, i would do absolutely nothing, but if i arranged the polygraph myself at the georgia bureau of investigations, i might pay it a little more attention. we'll be back with mickey sherman, taking your calls live. the last known person to see haleigh cummings, satsuma, florida, alive flunks a polygraph. is it finally a break in the case? where is haleigh cummings? ( revving, siren blares )
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that's actually retired from nypd, a detective, and everything was just miserably failed. >> not only does she fail a polygraph miserably is the quote, and that's a good way to put it, she apparently fails a voice stress test as well and refuses to go along with a hypnosis test. i'm talking about misty croslin, the girlfriend/babysitter turned teen bride that says she put the little girl to bed at 8:00 p.m. while daddy was at the night shift, only to find her missing at 3:00 a.m. here's what she said on the "today" show. >> why were there inconsistencies? why did you say one thing one time and one thing the other? >> i don't know. >> but you know you did do that? >> yeah. >> and you're not sure why?
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>> no. >> misty, as you sit here, do you believe in your heart that they see you as a suspect? >> no, i don't. >> i don't either. i talked to a detective. his name is john. >> and he said -- >> nope, he doesn't think that she's a suspect. >> that is misty croslin and ronald cummings on the "today" show with nbc. out to the lines. charlene in georgia. hi, charlene. >> caller: hi, nancy. >> what is your question, dear? >> caller: i have -- i've been wondering, the blanket that she supposedly washed in the middle of the night after she put the child to bed, has anybody tested that blanket for blood residue or -- >> excellent question. what about it, natisha lance? >> investigators have collected all the evidence. the only hindrance they have at this point they say is misty croslin.
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she is the key, and she is holding up the investigation with her inconsistencies time and time again. >> weigh in, mickey sherman. >> the problem is it's not an exact science. neither polygraph nor voice stress test. i mean, you might as well get a fortuneteller as well. my question is, why do we know about her flunking? >> mickey sherman, isn't it true that you have submitted some of your clients to polygraph tests? >> absolutely, but i'm not -- >> then why are you saying it's like reading the tarot cards. you've done it yourself. don't be dishonest, sherman. >> i'm not. it provides a road map and gives you an idea. imodium multi-symptom relief p) combines two powerful medicines for fast relief of your diarrhea symptoms so you can get back out there. imodium. get back out there.
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questions i have to. because i know i didn't do anything to that little girl. i would never hurt her. they love me. i mean, they look at me like their mom, you know. you ask little junior, he'll tell you. they talk a lot about me. i'm so good to them kids. >> i pulled into the yard, the front door was wide open. she was standing in it. i asked her what she was doing up. she told me that the back door was wide open and haleigh was gone. i turned the house upside down. told her to call 911. >> i took a polygraph. >> and you passed it? >> my understanding is that i passed it. >> have you and your girlfriend both taken a polygraph, right? >> yes, i have. passed with flying colors. she has, passed hers. >> and you volunteered to do that, and you've been cooperating with police, right? >> yeah. why not? i don't have anything to hide. i just want my daughter back. anything that's going to help them eliminate more people. that's the best thing.
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>> well, i got a call from misty. i missed a call and i'd gotten a text. at the third call, i got a third call from her, and i -- at that call, i determined that it must be an emergency. misty was on the phone. she was upset. she mentioned that mr. miller was there and he had taken a polygraph of her. i was, of course, shocked. i didn't really know what to say. at that point, she asked mr. miller if he would speak to me. he got on the phone. i spoke to a person that i was informed was mr. miller. he read to me verbally the statement that misty had written. i asked him why he was speaking to my client. he knew she was represented. he basically reiterated there was a waiver of some type and informed me that she failed miserably.
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>> straight out to bethany marshall, dr. bethany marshall, psychoanalyst, author of "deal-breakers." how do you discern her demeanor? misty croslin's demeanor? >> i think she is so arrogant, deceptive and manipulative and lacks big-picture thinking. she thought she could cheat on and ace a polygraph as a scheme to get equusearch in to detract the attention away from her. it's just an elaborate ruse. what that makes me wonder is, is she feeling the heat from her husband, from a relative or, more importantly, is she feeling the heat from the police? but it is so arrogant and so cruel to exploit equusearch. that's such a valuable organization, just to distract the attention away from her. it's small-minded, arrogant and mean. >> marc klaas, marc, what do you make of it?
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>> well, i don't -- i usually agree with bethany, but in this case, i don't. i almost think that equusearch is exploiting the situation. i know what my role is in these kinds of cases when we're called in to search. it's exactly to do that, to get our teams out there, to physically search for the person. but to conduct our own private polygraphs and then go out and spread the word out of -- around the world that somebody had failed the polygraph that we had put together for them, i think is -- is the height of irresponsibility. i really don't see how it serves anybody more than tim miller. it certainly doesn't seem to serve the case at all. i'm very concerned about this personally. >> marc, i'm a little more concerned about the fact that she flunked the polygraph and the voice stress test and would not submit to hypnosis. that's a little more disturbing to me than whether tim miller may or may not have overstepped his bounds. he's not a lawyer. he didn't violate any legal code. she asked him to set up a
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polygraph, and he did it. >> but that's -- but that's according to tim miller. he's the person whose word we have on that. we've all known and we've all said, nancy, from the first time this show -- this story was reported that misty has been deceptive, that her stories don't make sense and that the key to this case lies with her. nothing has changed as far as that goes. >> well, to me our suspicions are confirmed if, in fact, she failed a polygraph miserably. let's get a response from miller's attorney. what about it, mark? >> let me straighten him up. tim miller's role with texas equusearch is to find lost and missing people. there was a request for him to come in and do whatever was needed to help find this child. there's not a rule book that says you can only do it one way. if, in fact, she wanted to take a polygraph and she wanted to take these other tests to exonerate herself, she was given an opportunity by a civilian who's out there trying to help people.
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so for somebody to suggest that he's done something improper is ridiculous. he's out there trying to find children. if he could do it by this means, he did it by this means. if he could do it by another means, so be it, but to limit somebody to find a child or getting into political rules, that's nonsense, absurd, and inappropriate. >> hold on. i want to go back to the callers. terry in new jersey, hi, terry. >> caller: hi, nancy. >> what is your question, dear? >> caller: i have a comment more or less. didn't the cops figure this out when the child was missing and misty and ronald got married all of a sudden? >> well, here's the deal on that. a lot of people including myself first suspected did they get married so they couldn't testify against each other? but in florida, the husband/wife privilege does not apply in cases where a child victim is the center of the case. so if they got married for that reason, they were wrong.
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and out to t.j. hart with wsky, are they still together even after she's flunked a poly? and will not answer police's questions. is ronald cummings still married and living with her? >> yes. as a matter of fact, they just got done making a nice comment to first coast news just a little ago, stating that both -- misty made the statement just a moment ago that she and her husband will now have nothing more to do with tim miller in -- in this case. and there's more coming down the pike on this. this is just breaking. but yes, they are still together to answer the initial question. >> well, you know, it seems to me -- i'll throw this to the lawyers, mickey sherman, richard herman, if she's going to make a public statement, she should have said something like, well, i didn't flunk that polygraph. instead, she's going on the attack on tim miller. why, mickey sherman? how does that help anything? >> first of all, she's under age, and she has a lawyer. it's totally inappropriate to
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bypass the lawyer because the overriding reasons -- >> i'm not asking you -- miller is under no duty to get the polygraph or not get the polygraph. that's just like asking somebody on the street, can you help me set up a polygraph? it wasn't his duty to go, oh, no, i don't think that's appropriate. leave miller alone. that's not the problem. am i -- am i the crazy one? mike brooks, is everybody ignoring the fact the last person to see her alive has failed a polygraph? and a voice stress test. and would not submit to hypnosis. brooks, throw me a bone. >> nancy, i totally agree with you. you notice, remember early on -- we just -- they had taken a polygraph earlier from the fbi. we don't know what the results of that is. you know what? i don't blame tim miller. if she's asking for his help, he's going to put all his resources and volunteers out there, let's find out whether she's telling the truth or not. that's why he paid for this. >> i'm going to go straight to
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dr. kerry peterson from lennox hill hospital. internal medicine, highly respected. dr. peterson, is it possible that her body is there but in such a state it has not been found? i mean, what state would it be in if it had been outside all this time? >> hi, nancy. what's it been, about six months now? i mean, at this point in time, all the soft tissue has decomposed and all that's left is bone. this really reminds me of the caylee anthony case where -- when so much time elapsed, they just found bone and hair. it's very possible that the body could be missed because all that's left are subtle remnants. >> with me, dr. kerry peterson from lennox hill hospital in new york. we are taking your calls live. to tonight's "case alert." miracle. an 11-year-old california girl, snatched while walking to school two decades ago, found alive. forced into a gray van in 1991. in south lake tahoe.
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we received those reports that they did have a previous relationship that included marriage. we haven't been able to confirm that by seeing a marriage certificate. but that was at some time before the marriage and relationship with jenkins, the suspect. they obviously had some kind of an ongoing relationship. we don't know to what extent. we did receive a report that she did pick him up and had visited him at least once since the time he had been released from prison. and we don't have any details as to whether their relationship was being rekindled or if it was
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simply for old times' sake. >> straight out to john baird from knx-1070, these photos that are just emerging, we're showing you photos we've obtained by "inside edition," exclusive photos of jasmine fiore a few days before her brutal murder with her ex-husband. explain, john. >> that's what they're saying. this is a shocker to everyone. apparently this parolee, she picked him up from prison. she was with him a couple days before her murder. he apparently -- my understanding is he called his parole agent and came out. maybe he didn't want to be blamed for this after he found out she had been killed. they went out and interviewed him. they determined he's not involved in the murder, but they did arrest him on a parole violation and sent him back to prison. but this is an entirely different person involved with jasmine fiore and may be an ex-husband. >> well, it's my understanding he's an ex-fiance, but there may be more to that story. ellie jostad, what can you tell me?
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could this explain motive for murder? not that i think it's valid, but if jenkins, her husband, finds out she just spent two or three days with her ex, here are the photos to prove it. >> right. yeah. this guy actually was married to jasmine fiore from about 2004 to about 2005. as he explained, he was in prison. he just got out. apparently around august 11th or 12th. she went and picked him up. they apparently celebrated, spent some time at the beach. there are also reports they may have spent the night there together. we don't know if ryan jenkins knew about it, but that would explain a lot of things. >> but, ellie, back to what any we know about the night or two before she was murdered, wasn't she sending -- going to the restroom at a restaurant or the poker game and sending a lot of text messages on her cell phone and witnesses say jenkins became furious, wanting to know who are you
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texting? who are you calling? >> exactly. he kept asking her apparently according to people who were there, who is that on the phone and she said, oh, it's my mom. and really now her ex-fiance has come out and said she was texting me. we were talking. it actually sounds like they were planning to reconcile. she said she was going to come visit him. >> now, we understand that his family, his aunt in particular, and his fiancee are coming out swinging. what did the fiancee have to say? >> the fiancee says that he was a great guy, a sweetheart. she never saw any red flags to indicate something like this. >> let's take a listen to what the fiancee had to say just a few hours ago. >> hearing accusations of abuse and murder, is this the guy you knew? >> no. this is what is so surprising because, you know, i was with him for 2 1/2 years. of course, we fought, you know, just like any normal relationship.
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and there was no signs of, you know, violence and -- or even a -- at some point that person might, you know, commit a murder. nothing -- >> not even a hint that this would be a man in your opinion who would be capable of doing what he's now accused of doing? >> no. >> why did your relationship end? >> we actually ended on a good note, but he wanted to have an open relationship. he was definitely a lady's man. >> he wanted to see other people? >> yes, yes. and, you know, it was kind of a mutual understanding. we said, you know, not so much. i'm engaged to you. at some point i'd like to have a family and a solid marriage. we kind of ended on a good note. i wished him all the best with everything. >> that is ryan jenkins' ex-fiancee on nbc's "today" show. to bethany marshall, psychoanalyst, author of "deal breakers," hold on. did you just hear, oh, he was a nice, nice guy, but he wanted an
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open marriage? mutually exclusive. >> well, i wouldn't -- she may not be the most reliable historian of this relationship and what -- if you look at the 20-point checklist, this is the checklist used in forensic settings to determine if someone is a psychopath. at the top of the checklist, you have promiscuity, inability to form a commitment, unwillingness to get a job, charming, glib, superficial. it goes pathological jealousy, rage. treating a woman like a possession, the minute she disappoints you, you strike out, slice and dice. this is the classic profile of a psychopath, and i think she's minimizing the severity possibly of what was going on in that relationship for what was brewing for him psychologically. >> to the lawyers. we're taking your calls live. richard herman, you and i and mickey, of course, have handled
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a lot of homicide cases on two different sides of the fence. but i find it hard to believe that he had the wherewithal to dismember this body without an accomplice. >> unbelievable, nancy. the way she was brutalized, the reports that every teeth were removed and fingers removed. he had to be in a rage. i don't understand this. >> we'll be back with sherman, but as we go to break i want to thank two little crime fighters for this special crime scene book for the show out of blue post-it notes. note the bloody crime scene drawn. the bloody crime scene in great detail. caroline and huck are the beautiful children. thank you. i can always use a little more evidence. happy birthday this weekend to georgia friend of the show anne lynch. happy birthday beautiful anne.
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to caroline jarvis, global national reporter with global news. what's happening on your end? she's joining us from british columbia. >> everybody is waiting for word from the buena park police department. they're going to hold a news conference in a half hour's time to tell us what they found from those forensic tests in the white black-topped mercedes found in the trader joe's parking lot yesterday afternoon. everyone wants to know how that vehicle may have been linked to this crime. now, here's an interesting sidebar.
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dan jenkins, ryan jenkins' father from east of here in calgary, released a statement today saying he was pleased the vehicle was found. the reason why is he's maintained ryan's innocence is because he believes there's surveillance video from the neighborhood that will prove ultimately who drove that vehicle to that parking lot and then, of course, we know the rest of the story. >> sounds like a severe case of denial. to mickey sherman. you know what could be found in that car? remember the wayne williams case, the serial murderer convicted on fiber evidence. in that car there may be fibers from the crime scene where the murder or the dismemberment occurred. carpet, towel, whatever. >> i just don't think they'll find anybody else to prosecute here. she's dead and he's dead. the father is in denial, but why did he kill himself? that's persuasive he may have been guilty. everyone, let's stop and remember army sergeant douglas
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bull, 29, pennsylvania, on a second tour. also served in germany. awarded the bronze star, purple heart, national defense service medal and army service ribbon. never met a stranger. had a smile that lit up a room. loved football, paintball with friends. leaves behind grieving parents chris and mary, widow tara and 6-year-old daughter and 3-year-old son. douglas bull, american hero. thanks to our guests and especially to you for being with us. i'll see you tomorrow night 8:00 sharp eastern and a special welcome back to our chief line producer liz. until tomorrow night, good night, friend. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com
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