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your chance to be heard. controversy, opinion, your point of view. this is "prime news." >> welcome. all right. at this hour, the civil case x against casey anthony in limbo. pf she's sued for more than $15,000, saying casey ruined her reputation claiming a nanny with the same name kidnapped little caylee. casey's attorney call the lawsuit frivolous but their request to have it thrown out postponed earlier by a judge. all this while casey's own parents may be forced to testify under oath or o face contempt of court charges. we'll take your calls. joining us to talk about this, we have criminal defense attorney former prosecutor in this case coal deboard and d. michelle gowan and joining us from the "nancy grace show"

leticia lance. what happened in court today? >> in court today, casey anthony's attorneys want this case to be completely thrown out, dismissed, if not dismissed, delayed until after the murder trial. now, her attorneys say the murder trial could take up to years and they want it to happen as soon as possible. however, this judge is not making a ruling anytime soon and we could expect to hear on it in possibly a month. >> that's the lowdown today. tomorrow, it could even be more interesting. george and cindy in the spotlight. why are they the eye of the storm tomorrow. >> right. if you recall, they had those depositions with sinai today gonzales's attorneys. in them there were several questions they did not answer. her attorneys want to compel them to answer the questions going before the judge saying these are the questions they didn't answer and they should answer them because of these specific reasons that. would be tomorrow. george and cindy anthony may possibly have to answer those questions depending on how the judge rules and, if they choose

not to answer those questions or the judge rules they should, they could be held in contempt. >> let's get specific here, what question are we talking about? i have a list of a few. if i go astray correct me or add if need in george refusing to answer anything about going into the trunk of casey's car, that's key. accusations of casey's stealing, jail calls between cindy and casey. the truthfulness of the zanny story, what else, am i missing anything. >> house hold items purchased and cindy anthony purchased about whether or not casey anthony used her credit card without permission. also talked about the ladder in the pool in the back of the house, there was always discussion about that ladder. >> that's right. >> bls that private investigator the anthonys had and whether or not george anthony had told him specific areas to go look for caylee anthony. >> let's bring in our attorney. nicole, should they have to answer those questions, how do you see they go playing out. >> absolutely. i can't think of any privilege or excuse they he shouldn't have to answer them. my guess, too the motion to

dismiss is going to be denied if i had to guess. doesn't sound like there is any legal theory why they shouldn't have to answer the questioned or the case should be concluded. >> let's listen to george anthony, this is george anthony in the deposition. he was being combative here. let's give it a listen as to -- also, he refused to answer questions here. let's listen. >> have you had discussions with your wife in which she raised questions of the truthfulness of the story of zanny, whether there was a babysitter named zanny. >> i'm not going to answer that. >> how come. >> because i don't have to answer it. >> almost defiant there. let's bring in our psychologist. what do you make of his demeanor, one questions we outlined there. >> well, i mean, he's obviously angry and defensive and i think the concern is is that the pattern of behavior that he could be revealing about -- about his daughter. >> yeah. nicole, we talk about these

questions and they're key, some points are really key here, how damning could they be? >> they could be very damning. i mean, a lot of talking was done while this case was in the investigation stage and now is when we learn why all that talking can be so dangerous to the defense of a case. you're going to have many inconsistent answers, no doubt. or things that quite simply just don't add up, as to what casey has said happened. so now, we're going to have the answers from parents about these questions and i think that can be very valuable to the prosecution. >> if you are prosecution, pick one point that cindy doesn't want to talk about a credit card. i mean, that's common sense f. casey's stealing money from her own parents via the credit card, how is she affording a nanny, right. >> exactly. besides that it certainly goes to her credibility. persons who steal from their own parents certainly may have a credibility issue in some jurors' eyes and very valuable information to the prosecution. >> if they say no, let me get this in quickly, if they say no, can they be held in contempt.

>> they sure can, they sure can. if the judge tells them they have to an sweater question and they don't, the judge can then hold them in contempt, that's correct. >> do you see that coming down the pike nicole? >> it's hard to say. at some point it would cement parents will have their own attorney weighing in on whether or not they should risk their own freedom to refuse to answer questions and so, it's hard to say. it's possible. >> michelle, do you want in? >> i just wanted to say that i think again it's showing her pattern of sort of nasr cystic self-centered behavior. stealing money, stealing money from her grandmother. you know, taking the credit card, all of those sorts of things, again, going towards her character. and how self-centered she is. >> exactly. we're going to pick up on that point, michelle. glad you prout that up. when we come back, we'll hear more from tracy mclaughlin as she was on of the staff members working with leonard padilla who bailed out casey at one point. regardless of what you think of

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george and cindy, they have to tell the truth, the whole truth, no matter the consequences for their daughter. more people want in. beverly with us from new york, hey, beverly. >> caller: what i'm wondering is i don't know if we are talking about -- but cindy and george, i feel they know she did it but can anybody honestly say that they would turn their own daughter in? i mean, you know, you're going to have to sit there and tell the truth and they know she's going to go to the death penalty, you know. >> all right. thanks for the call there. michelle, as you've watched this, michelle garland clinical psychologist joining us, you watched this and their demeanor, do you think they know more than they've let on? >> well, i think, again, they had very gut reactions when this first happened. >> yeah. >> and i think, you know, those are extremely important to remember. and i have to say that, you know, with the last caller, i mean, i can understand that, this theory, we say we wouldn't. or turn in our own children. >> right. >> but, again, i think this

family was in constant denial and in conflict, which truthfully is what led to her personality, her issues, and subsequently to what has now happened. >> right. >> and -- and i think we need to remember that we need -- we need to do the right thing, whatever happens within our family. >> yeah, exactly. you know, look at these cute -- new pictures of little caylee. look at the cute little dress, just a beautiful little girl as the song says "gone too soon" michelle you picked up on the point, in the midst of the butte of the pictures dealing with casey's personality. we'll listen to someone who worked with leonard padilla and had acswes to her. here's tracy mclaughlin talking to investigators about her demeanor when she comes in. let's listen. >> she comes in, happy as can can, hey, hi, gives me a big hug and just, oh, i want to take a shower and not a word about caylee, nothing. i want to take a shower and, oh,

those were so nice and i got to do this. they were sneaking me food in the jail and doing all these other things and they love me, they love me and i'm thinking she's not even upset. not a word about her daughter. >> back to michelle golland, any way a defense team can explain that away, you know, you expect her to come home and the first thing she says we've got to find caylee, instead showers and they love me in jail and sneaking me food. unbelievable. >> yeah, again, i think it's really clear, given her pattern of behavior hour nasr cystic she seemed to have been and continues to be. >> have you seen anything like, this michelle, this seems so over the edge to me? >> oh, yeah. well, i mean, i think who are of this sort of character and personality type, yeah, this is what happened and nasr cystic people will get rid of things that don't serve them or detract from them. >> okay. another call, kim with us from south carolina. hey, kim, go ahead. >> caller: hi.

i was just wondering why any lawyer would give the advice to a client to press for a civil lawsuit or any type of suit when the anthonys have made it clear i believe that they don't have any money or certainly casey doesn't. >> okay. let's bring in nicole deborde. talking about $15,000. gonzales says her life is ruin and figure she has a case, right, nicole? >> exactly. she probably just wants the opportunity to clear her name. she wanted an opportunity, it sounds to me like to be heard publicly saying you have to understand i had nothing to do with this, while her name got dragged through the mud time and time again, nationally, she never had the chance until this lawsuit really to come through and explain just all of the details about how it would be impossible she was involved. >> okay. have to leave it there. thanks so much to our experts, as always. thank you to you for your calls, as well. coming up we'll be talking about jaycee dugard. we know her biological father speaks for the first time, something new. while we zone in on this man

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welcome back to "prime news" shocking revelation it appears authorities missed dozens of opportunities to catch phillip garrido. detectives in antioch, california visited his home more than two dozen times in the past three years alone. his parole officer was also checking up on him but no one saw anything out of the ordinary here. specifically, jaycee and the two girls in the backyard police say jaycee dugard lived in a soundproof shed in the backyard held again 18 years forced to bear his children. this is disturbing details emerge about his 1976

kidnapping, admitted drug use and what experts call subconscious signs he wanted to get caught when it was said and done so. much to get to here. we'll take your calls. joining me to talk about it welcome back defense attorney and former prosecutor nicole deborde, michelle golland and sam stanton from the "sacramento bee." anything new on the investigation what's going in on around his home, anything to that effect? >> reporter: right now, they are preparing for a bail hearing for phillip and nancy garrido, to be held monday morning. they are both still in jail refusing all interviews. the investigation is progressing although their antioch home has been closed off. they are not doing anything, any type of search there at this point. right now, they are trying to figure out how they missed so many opportunities to find her over the years. >> let's talk about that real quick, sam. do we have the number correct here, three years, two dozen visits? >> reporter: well, no it was more than that. >> more than that.

>> reporter: he was on lichtime parole since 1999 on parole supervision by the state of california. now, they've told me that he would have been visited typically two or three times a month. at that home. so, you, you know, multiply that times ten years and then you look at the other cases where people came to the home, his home was the subject of this 1972 case, this rape allegation that was lodged against him back then three years after he graduated from high school. he picked up allegedly picked up a couple of young girls at the time and was later charged with drugging and raping one much them repeatedly while in the course of that alleged crime, he got into a police chase, where he eluded police in antioch near that home and has been on their radar all this time. >> and you make good point about the numbers there, sam, multiplying the two to three times a month over that period of time. let's go to nicole, our attorney, as you look at this, and that's one of the first questions, how could we miss

that? how could authorities miss what was going on in that home. >> it's absolutely heartbreaking. clearly somebody here did not do the thorough job they were hired to do, whether it to be to go to the house to do a parole follow-up or visitation. someone just did not do what they were supposed to do and here we have the result. >> yeah, exactly. all right. guys, i'm going hit on a couple other topics, one jaycee's biological father speaking for the first time, kenneth slaten, here's a quote. i think they should live as long as they possibly can and someone should torture them as much as they did jaycee and those little girls that's actually too easy. i'd skin him talking about ga ree do. michelle that's an expected response from a dad. >> oh, yeah. >> he's also talking about he wants to be part of her life. he really wasn't and now wants to be, that's way down the road, isn't it? >> you know, i think again that's going to be up to jaycee. all along what i've said is really right now, what matters

most is that jaycee has control of her life. she hasn't had that for 18 years. so, that may happen soon or later but i think it needs to be when jaycee decides. >> michelle, let us in. what do you think going on right now this far into it, the initial reunwith her mom is over with, with her younger sister, the girls, now you settle into the next phase. what's going on here. >> i have to say i've been fully impressed with the family and how they've handled this from the aunt and her statements at the end of last week and how they have handled the reunion and obviously the team of professionals that they have. i have very high hopes for jaycee and her daughters and the whole family. i think, again, what is going to than it is connection and reunification. >> what makes you so positive, michelle? i'm hopeful, as well. we are hearing. what makes you so? >> i -- i part of it is just my gut and my intuition about them and what i've seen the family

and how the step-father has been and i've been on other shows with him and the aunt and again the way they are handling this. it just is, i think, pretty spot on with what needs to happen and that makes me very hopeful. >> that is good news because when we -- when we come back from a break we're going to look at just the sick mind of phillip garrido and talk about the planning, not only -- it's an educated guess he planned the backyard compound well in advance when he brought jaycee back there back in 1981 and we also know about his sick planning for the crime he committed against catie callaway hall in 1976. we'll talk about that and much more. we'll take your calls, 1-877-tell-hln is the number. (announcer) what do people notice about you? people notice my devotion to family. people notice my love for animals./ my smile.

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molesters. >> how did he get out, real quick, dennis, how do you think this guy got out. >> caller: i don't even -- well, because of the laws in california. >> although i've heard some of the defense attorneys say california's got the strictest laws when it comes to sex offenders, i don't believe that. >> thanks again for the call. nicole do you concur with him here, when you look at this case, first your thoughts and we'll back-track a little bit. >> you know, while the reality is that you don't have a lot of options. i mean, he can either be incarcerated following some kind of plea or a finding of guilt or he gets set free and so there aren't a whole lot of options and the choice to put him from prison seems the best choice obviously in this circumstance. he should never set foot in the free world again. >> yeah, when you look back sentenced to 50 years he should have serveed a lot more than the 11. i mean, you look at the planning, the sick mind that

we're hearing b. back to the 1976 kidnap and rape of katy callaway hall. he tried to abduct another woman before thankfully she fought him off and ran but she was not at fortunate. he rented this warehouse two weeks in advance, all planned out. she pleaded with him, you know, basically assault me and let's get it over with. he's like, no, i have this plan. michelle, i don't even know where to begin on this when you talk about that kind of sick planning and he had to live this fantasy out. >> well, yeah. i mean, i think this is clearly a predator. you know, he was a child predator and he happened to catch katie callaway and brought her to a place that was set up, you know, with a mattress, carpeting and soundproofing, same m.o., you know -- >> yeah, that's right. >> the same m.o., he had laid carpet up and down in the storage unit where she was taken. >> so, nicole, back to the

point, how do -- do we not just lock imup and throw away the key. >> i don't think there is anything you can do but do that. he is clearly proved, i guess, given his own proof he cannot be released. >> i think -- >> i think psychologically, again, i think psychologically we need to really understand, at how high the recidivism rate is for child sexual predators and i think we need to really, really create a harsher system of keeping them in jail. because it -- clinically, it is extremely rare to, you don't get cured of this. >> especially the worst of the worst, right, michelle? >> yeah. >> zone in on them. >> and the problem is is that, you know, once we know what also can happen and not in all cases but when you are violently sexually abused, you can also then again go on and become an abuser, of course not in all cases but again a way to at least. >> got you. michelle hate to cut you off. guys thanks again. coming up the latest on heyley

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some parents worried over the weekend about president obama's speech to students, there might be some political agenda, hidden agenda behind the speech. well, we heard nothing of that. but now critics have shifted their outrage, zoning in on the lesson plan. necessary? were you concerned? call in. all right. this might be the break investigators have waited for a possible sighting of missing 6-year-old little haleigh cummings. investigators in florida now in massachusetts. step-mother, misty, has relatives there. the 17-year-old again the last

person to see haleigh, saying she tucked the little girl into bed the night of february 9th. she just disappeared. we'll take your calls 1-877-tell-hln. joining us t.j. hearty program news director -- in gainesville, florida, also malena, producer for the "nancy grace she" the alleged sighting in massachusetts what do we know about it? >> -- questioning a couple from florida about the missing 6-year-old. some of the calls indicated a possible sighting of a girl matching the description of haleigh at a walmart in abingdon, massachusetts, described at three feet tall, and a birthmark on her left cheek. >> what is the family saying about this, what's the -- i mean, are they hopeful, ron

cummings, anybody talking about this? >> absolutely. ron cummings said he couldn't sleep all night. i talk to his attorney right before i came to talk to you, mike, and he said he couldn't sleep all new knowing she's possibly alive in massachusetts. her grandmother also said they've been praying this is her. they feel really positive about this and they're really hoping they get more information this really soon. >> marlena, do you have any more of a description on who she was seen with? >> teresa said she was told she was seen with an adult. she was seen in a shopping cart. shopping with an adult. she didn't say if it was a male or they maifemale, trying to ge information herself. sle got a call from a reporter in massachusetts giving her this information. >> okay. t.j., anything to add to that? do you have any more info who haleigh was allegedly seen with? >> no i'm trying to track down possible pictures or videotape and working with walmart

officials to try to get more information on that, still working on it at this moment as a matter of fact. >> let's be clear. this has nothing to to do with authorities talking to misty's brother, tim, who lives in massachusetts. two separate issues, correct? >> two separate issues as of right now. >> as of now, okay. >> right. the authorities went up there. they said they were questioning him with regard to phone records they were investigating and this sighting actually came as a coincidence around the same time. >> does he live near where haleigh was spotted, allegedly? >> allegedly -- well, she was spotted a hour and a half from where timothy and his wife live. >> okay, hour and a half. t.j., anything -- any more on that? has anybody been suspicious of tim, misty's brother, up until now. >> not really. but, i will tell you that right now, the situation is that they have to talk to everybody. now, tim and his wife moved up there a couple of weeks -- not a couple weeks but months ago for

economic reasons and maybe there was something that has come out in some other line of questioning that has led them to make contact with him to also get further information. so they went literally in handcuffs, have not been incarcerate sod we don't know exactly what's going on there. the county officials are not saying be having tight-lipped about this. >> marlena do we know anything about the relationship between them and what misty is saying about all this. >> she speaks very highly of her brother, tim, actually and doesn't think he has anything to do with anything related to haleigh's disappearance. >> got you. do you concur with her there? >> that is absolutely correct. i talked with tim miller with texas equusearch which did the voice stress analysis and of course the failed polygraph with misty but anytime his name was mentioned, timmy was regarded highly by misty, who -- >> okay. you know, as we talk about this, the backdrop i'll ask you both

about this then we have to run, is misty the last person to see haleigh whether or not there is a straight story and authorities say there is not yet, have they talked to her since she reportedly failed the polygraph test? >> authorities have continued to speak to misty, the last person who has seen her. they still think they has the key to this investigation but right now they just cannot put their finger on what it is. they just know that there are some missing pieces from that puzzle the night haleigh went missing and they think she's the only person who can fill them in. >> t.j., are they going to talk to her again soon? >> -- it will be up to her whether or not she wishes to answer any questions. >> good stuff, guys, as we continue to follow it and hope and pray for the safe return ofx little haleigh missing almost seven months now. appreciate it. coming up gut-wrenching testimony from a grieving father his son dead after a tough football practice in the heat. the coach now on trial it for

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welcome back to "prime news" former coach on trial in a teen-aged player's death. testimony ended moments ago. we are getting player testimony in. here's the deal. that's key here, we have producers listening to this, getting notes together so we're all over there for you, here's what we are talking about coach david stinson is facing serious charges reckless homicide, wantton endangerment linked to the sophomore lineman at the high school outside of louisville, kentucky who died three days after collapsing in the heat during practice. his father, jeff, was there that day for the end of practice and testified under oath today said he initially did not notice

anything wrong. despite seeing his son vomit and other players collapse, two others to be specific, then he changed his mind when he talked to other people who had seen more of the practice. also on the stand moments ago players at that practice enduring that heat, their testimony just into us at hln, we'll get to all of that, joining us to talk about it, attorney nicole deborde and dr. cory slovis -- thank you both for being with us. all right. starting with dad, this is jeff gil pin. my understanding he was not there the entire practice but as a dad, thought another day of conditioning so initially did not have a problem with the practice, listen to his sound bite saying pretty much that, max gilpin's dad, jeff. >> dourl telling her that they, being the coaches, did everything they could, that i would have done? >> yes. >> do you recall telling her

that max was never denied water? >> i didn't see anybody deny him water while i was there, that's correct. >> do you recall telling her you didn't think anything wrong at practice. >> at that point, yes. >> okay. that was his initial take. bringing in nicole on this one. nicole, is that -- does that hurt the prosecution when you have a dad who saw some of the practice, i don't believe he saw all of it, say that initially he was okay with the practice. >> i don't really think it does. i mean, i think the defense is probably doing everything they can to muddy the water here a little bit and get him to stand pat with what he said before. but, you know, this guy's a dad. he probably had a very different perspective about what went on there that day than anybody else did. >> yeah, exactly. how -- i mean, an initial reading from dad, he didn't blame the coaches but heard more about practice and what went on. he changes his mind. how will that play into this? and how important is dad's

testimony, period. >> a lot of times, the parents in a case like this, their testimony isn't that important because people expect them to be very emotionally tied to the case. and so, their credibility is affected slightly as a result of that. and i think that jurors, most likely, will be far more interested in what the actual witnesses on the field have to say about what actually took place that day. >> yeah. that is key. and we're getting, again, players testifying toward the end of the day and notes from our producers a young man, antonio, now he collapsed, and actually rode in the ambulance with max gil pin on the way to the hospital. he talked about running gassers as the coach was not happy with the team's effort running in upwards of 20 gassers. the way i understand them, you run say 20 yards go back to the goal line, run 40, back to the goal line, pretty gruelling especially in that heat. doctor, i want to bring you in on this antonio talks about he stops sweating during practice even mentioned that to a teammate. what was going on in his body he would stop sweating?

>> the way we get rid of heat is switing, vap or tiff heat loss. when you stop sweating, you are critically dehydrated. >> period. >> period. >> okay. here's another key person here, joanne gail, watching on another field, a soccer game but looked back to watch what was going on at the football practice and talked briefly about whether or not the team was allowed to get water. again, this was from afar but here's what she had to say in testimony today. >> what did you hear him say in response to water? >> i'll let you know when it's time to get water. >> okay. nicole, talk about that. that's damning on the surface the coach is holding the key to whether or not they get water and when. but, this is swo someone watching basically a soccer game and turning around to look at football practice. how much weight does her testimony hold here? >> it would seem that could carry a lot of weight, basically appears an independent witness saying this coach is stopping

these kids from getting water until he tells them it's okay show the control. >> okay. doctor, heat index, from what we understand, 94 degrees. how long does it take for the body temperature to get in that kind of heat or -- or does it just depend on the player and their conditioning and how much hydration they have had leading up to the practice that day. >> all of those things are very important. each of us is individually sensitive or somewhat insensitive to the heat, how well we behave is based on our hydration, what kind of shape we're in, what we're wearing, whether we can dissipate the heat, whether you have a helmet on our a lot of equipment on. what medications you might be taking, whether you ate that morning, all of these things are important. >> what medications wool hurt, doctor? >> anything that increased your body temperature or metabolic rate, anything that decreased your ability to sweat. >> okay. guys, we'll take a quick break and take your calls 1-877-tell-hln, the number --

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some critics slamming president obama about his back-to-school speech before he said a single word accusing him of trying to brainwash kids. some schools refused to show it and some parents said they had pulled their kids from classes for the day. the president gave his

movational speech. here's a piece of it. >> you conditioning drop out of school and just drop into a good job. you've got to train for it and work for it and learn for it. and this isn't just important for your own life and your own future. what you make of your education will decide nothing less than the future of this country. paragraph the future of america depends on you. what you are learning in school today will determine whether we, as a nation, can meet our greatest challenges in the future. >> movational speak, stay in school, work hard, the good education. do you have a problem with it? we are taking your calls. joining me to talk about it, arizona school superintendent tom horn who thinks the president's accompanying curriculum crossed the line. we'll hit on that, as well. also with us cnn education contributor steve perry, founder and principal of the capital preparatory magnet school which prepares low-income high school

students for college. thanks for being with us. we want to hear you from. talking speech first off tom you did have any problem with the speech. >> no, i never had any problems with the speech. i think everyone agrees students should work hard and overcome obstacles and do well in school to prepare for good jobs. my problems with the curriculum that game to the schools with the speech and not the speech itself. >> what happened in arizona did, most schools show the speech, what reports are you getting? >> well, my recommendation to schools was that if parents were upset the school should provide and academic alternative. we're big on prarntdale choice in arizona, we have the strongest charter school movement in the country and open enrollment. >> okay. and so, i thought parents' feelings should be taken into account. i know that some districts did not follow that advice and made all the students watch. >> okay. got you. steve, your take on the speech. again speech itself i don't see how people could have a problem it's the president and there's no better example out there, or

would be hard pressed to find someone of someone who got the good education, look what he did with himself. >> i'm, in fact, embarrassed for any educators who folded under the pressure educators who fold the pressures of a few angry parents. when we don't allow the open exchange of ideas we rob children about the process of learning about others and ourselves. we learn what we know and don't know. there was nothing in the not necessarily curriculum, it was a couple of activities, or the speech that would be any different than what we would expect the students to say -- do if anyone came to talk to them about staying in school. >> tom, what specifically did you have a problem with the lessons, the questions, curriculum post speech. >> sure. i'll give you some examples. in preparation of the speech the students would do an exercise, imagine how the president will inspire us. after the speech, what were your favorite quotations.

this curriculum was written by an employee of the president who hero worships him, which i have no objection to. >> oh, my goodness. >> i think it is fine for employees to hero worship their boss. >> hero worship? >> you think it went that far, tom? >> that was my impression. if you read that curriculum and i have posted it on my website azed.gov. if you read it, you get the impression this was an employee who hero worships his boss. i have no objection to employees hero worshipping their boss -- >> i got to get in here. steve will kick us off when we come back. a lot of calls lining up. the curriculum we are going to zone in on. 1-877-tell-hln. do it.

what we have done is taken this mundane experience and turned it into something extraordinary because those interested in their role as an adult politician than as educators. i'm sad to hear the superintendent take the approach he has. >> let's get a call in. susan in north carolina. >> caller: hi. i took my son out of school today so we could watch the speech live because his school was only offering it on their lunch break. i was just very upset with that. i thought it was a great speech and i don't understand what the problem is. >> okay. the gentlemen we have here, okay with the speech on all fronts but tom, again, has issue with the curriculum.

>> your other guest said it is not mandatory and it is true. that is why i raised the concerns. we have local control in arizona. i don't control it. i can bring things to people's attention. i want to bring to the attention of schools they were given materials by the white house that did not teach independent thinking, critical thinking, the kind of things we want to develop in our kids. it was written by someone who seems to hero worship the president. >> steve, do you think we needed a curriculum? don't you think teachers could have come up with their own questions. >> it was so basic. i can't believe the superintendent continues down this road. he picked up on a phrase hero worship. you are a leader of a school district. the truth is you are making your point clear something you find offensive. i don't understand why that it is. all it did was suggest. these are the same basic tena

tenants. the activity, not curriculum. here is background information, when you look at language arts curriculum you have basic information. i don't understand how saying to a student that you should, in fact, have some knowledge of who is talking is a problem. so that is why it is so sad to hear because if you want to say you don't support him that's your right, to simply say that something is inherently wrong. that is a problem. >> tom about 20 seconds. >> i didn't say whether i supported him or not. i'm not the leader of the district. i'm the leader of the state of arizona. it is my obligation to point out things should be aware of. from your other guest's emotionalism he probably also hero worships the president. it doesn't belong in the schools. >> i hope you gave each of your

fair time. >> you did. i appreciate it. >> stay with us. @ @úh@; 8twxepg0ep%p'pk@,l3uñ

new today, casey anthony's attorney back in court pleading with a judge. her parents george and cindy may be forced to testify about her so-called nanny. answer grueling questions under oath. could their own words convict casey? plus after a weekend of outrage from some parents president obama delivers his pep talks to students. study hard, create your own future, get a good education. the white house says indoctrinating kids. some critics have a problem with the lesson plan that follows.

1-877-tell-hln. e-mail me or text. start your message with the word. >> controversy, opinion, your point of view. this is "prime news." >> this is hour number two of "prime news." at this hour the civil case against casey anthony is in limbo. zenaida gonzalez suing casey, saying she ruined her reputation claiming nanny with the same name kidnapped caylee. their request to have the lawsuit thrown out was postponed by a judge. casey's own parents may be forced to testify under oath or face contempt of court charges. we will get to that and new pictures of caylee. 1-877-tell-hln. joining us criminal defense attorney, nicole debord, clinical psychologist dr. michelle galan.

do you think the civil case is going to go forward or be thrown out? >> i think it will probably go forward. it is start to file a motion to dismisand standard for the court to say we are going to go on. >> you see this moving forward. >> i do. >> tomorrow it is going to be interesting in court. george and cindy, their attorneys fight ing sothey don't have to answer some questions. let's go over some of the questions they don't want to answer. let's start with george. he will not answer anything about going into the trunk of casey's car. that could be key if caylee's body was in there. accusations of casey stealing. if she's stealing how is she affording a nanny. jail calls between cindy and casey. the truthfulness of the zanny story. house hold items purchased by casey. all key but to a civil case.

>> it is possible they could be relevant because all along zenaida gonzalez is saying i'm not the person made to be the criminal in this case. all of what casey anthony said is a lie. in that context it is possible these particular things could be relevant. >> okay. let's listen to george anthony. this is george in the deposition where he refused to answer some questions as he is doing now. let's give that a listen. >> there is something wrong with you, sir. >> zanny. z-a-n-y. >> you are saying zeny. am i upset, sir, i'm darn right i'm upset. this is uncalled for. >> there is george anthony again playing coy at first, battling the emotions. let's bring in michelle. i couldn't imagine what he is

going through. there is so many ways to di seco sect this. >> clearly he is angry and defensive. he doesn't want to be brought into court basically incriminating his own daughter with his answer to these questions. they have had to compartmentalize a lot. their initial feelings, what they are trying to do to help their daughter. it is very complicated. >> george anthony contemplated suicide. no surprise there. let's get back on the court front, nicole, cindy anthony, the questions she doesn't want to answer, money stolen by casey via credit card. add these up and how important could they be if they are heard in the civil case, are they used in the criminal trial we are looking at down the road? >> absolutely. that is an excellent point.

what happens in the civil case is relevant to zenaida gonzalez herself except these depositions which are going to be under oath are going to be very useful to the prosecution because it is an opportunity to get testimony under oath that they can use to ask questions to build on their own questioning in court. if they change their answers they could face serious problems themselves. it gives the prosecution a peek into what to expect the testimony in the criminal case. >> prosecution, big rooting interest. >> absolutely. >> let's change up here a little bit and talk about some of the evidence uncovered on friday. tracy mclaughlin. she worked with leonard padilla. padilla bailed casey anthony out of jail. mclaughlin has access to casey anthony. here she is talking about casey anthony as casey is watching news coverage of the case and the news coverage is talking

about evidence in the case. listen to what casey anthony is saying via tracy mclaughlin. >> she walks out. i said there is signs of decomposition. she said, i know, i'm trying to keep lee and casey away from the tv. i'm shaking. by the time i walk in the bedroom she is in there with the news on. yeah, something came up. yeah the samples came back. she said a lot of people had access to that car. >> wow. let's get this on two fronts. michelle, again, nothing about caylee, but immediately covering her own rear. talking about air samples that others had access. that is stunning, isn't it? >> again, i think what has been clear is how it appears narcissistic casey is. and again, you can see again her

own self-interest and really that's the whole question of what may have happened to caylee, right? is about not being useful and inimpediment to casey. >> what is your read here, michelle? she shuts off empathy and feelings for her 2-year-old little girl? >> again, i haven't been treating her. but if she, as i believe, appears to have real narcissism and borderline personality traits, you know, she didn't have much empathy to begin with. >> yeah. some of the evidence we are seeing. some of the pictures. it will play out further in court. let's take a quick break. when we come back we take some phone calls. michelle's take about casey talking about the air samples. as we go to break looking at h some new pictures of cute little caylee. six days, that's fast!

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welcome back to "prime news" on hln. the latest with casey anthony. let's two to the phones. theresa in wisconsin, comment, question here? >> caller: yes, hi. i would like to say the anthonys should testify against their daughter because they hold a lot of evidence against her, especially her dad being an ex-police officer. >> we know as a cop early on in this investigation he said he smelled, he was hoping against hope, he didn't smell human decomposition. he said you never forget that smell. that was early on. as time went on he changed the tune saying it was rotty pizza

and cindy saying the same thing. nicole debord, our attorney is with us. when we look further in the criminal case, they will testify, what, as hostile witnesses for the prosecution? >> it's possible. you can bet the prosecution will subpoena them for some of the information they gave so readily in the beginning of the investigation. they will not have a choice in criminal court of whether or not they answer questions. unless they want to take the fifth or believe they are somehow implicated being guilty of some crime as well. they can expect to testify. >> i want to get your take on the quote from casey on air samples. immediately, others had access to the car. we chew on that in the court of public opinion. will the jury listen to stuff like that? >> absolutely. those comments are very damning.

one of the things that prosecution can use is behavior after the crime to show consciousness of guilt. how are they acting after a knowledge of a crime? is there information in their behavior to show they are aware of what they've done, they know what happened and are being taking themselves i guess holding themselves responsible for it is one way to put it. >> let's pick up with michelle goland. behavior after the crime. we have been appalled at some of the things we've seen, casey partying, her getting the tattoo, the beautiful life, after caylee is missing. >> yeah. again, what is frightening for any of us that are parents, that is not how we would be behaving. people handle grief differently but this goes beyond the pale. if you hear there is

decomposition in your car just that fact of thinking about your child being dead you know does she worry and care and become concerned? no. >> let's go back. let's get rid of those pictures and show the pictures that break our heart and not disgust us. do we have the new pictures of little caylee. 2-year-old little girl who now we know is gone. these are new pictures, caylee with the hat and the dress. michelle, we don't understand that. if that cute little girl r was missing, for most everybody we know, they are beside themselves. they are not talking about air samples. >> no. they are not posting pictures on facebook and not notifying anybody for a length of time. >> 30 days. >> yeah. it is clear her behavior what it says about her.

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it appears authorities missed dozens of opportunities to catch phillip garrido. they visited the sex offender's home in more than two dozen times. his parole officer was checking up on him, but no one saw anything out of the ordinary. jaycee and the two girls in the back yard. police say jaycee dugard lived in a soundproof shed in the back yard. forced to bear his children. this is disturbing details emerge about garrido's 1976

kidnapping, admitted drug use and subconscious signs he wanted to get caught when it was all said and done. we take your calling 1-877-tell-hln. joining me we welcome back criminal defense attorney nicole debord and michelle golland and sam stanton from the sacramento bee. what is going on around phillip garrido? >> right now they are preparing for a bail hearing for phillip and nancy garrido in el dorado county. they are in the jail refusing interviews. the antioch home has been closed off. they are not doing any type of search there at this point. right now they are trying to figure out how they missed so many opportunities to find her over the years. >> let's talk about that real quick, sam.úú three years, two dozen visits? >> well, no. it was more than that.

he was on life time parole since 1999 he was on parole supervision by the state of california. they told me he would have been visited typically two or three times a month at that home. multiply that times ten years and look at the other cases where people came to the home. his home was the subject of this 1972 case, this rape allegation lodged against him back then, three years after he graduated from high school. he picked up, allegedly picked up a couple of young girls and was charged with drugging and raping one repeatedly. in the course of that alleged crime he got into a police chase where he eluded police near that home. he has been on their radar all this time. >> you make a good point about the numbers, multiply the two to three times a month over that period of time. nicole, as you look at this, and that is up with of the first

questions. how could we miss that? how could authorities miss what was going on in their home? >> that is heartbreaking. clearly someone did not do the thorough job they were hired to do, a parole file up, a visitation. someone did not do what they were supposed to do. here we have the result. >> exactly. jaycee's biological father speaking for the first time. kenneth slaton. here is a quote from him. i think they should -- offenders like garrido, i think they should live as long as they possibly can and torture them as much as they did jaycee and the two girls. that is too easy. i would skin him. an expected response from the dad. he is talking about he wants to be a part of her life. that is way down the road, isn't it? >> i think, again, that is up to jaycee. really right now what matters

most is that jaycee has control of her life. she hasn't had that for 18 years. that may happen sooner or later but it needs to be when jaycee decides. >> michelle, what do you think is going on right now? the initial reunion with her mom. that is over with. with her younger sister, the girls, now you settle into that next phase. what is going on here? >> i have to say i have been fully impressed with the family and how they have handled this. from the aunt and her statements at the end of last week and how they have handled the reunion and the team of professionals they have. i have very high hopes for jaycee and her daughters and the whole family. what is going to continue is connection and reunification. >> what makes you so positive? i'm hopeful as well. what makes you so? >> part of it is just my gut and

intuition about them and what i've seen the family and how the stepfather has been and i've been on other shows with him and the aunt. and, again, the way they are happen handling this is spot on with what needs to happen. that makes me hopeful. >> when we come back from a break, we are going to look at the sick mind of phillip garrido. we are going to talk about the planning, not only -- it is an educated guess that he planned the back yard compound well in advance of bringing jaycee back there in 1991. we know about his sick planning for the crime he committed against katie callaway hall in 1976. we'll take your calls 1-877-tell-hln is the number. @@

plea or he gets set free. there are not a lot of options. the choice to put him in prison seems like the best choice. he should never set foot in the free world again. >> sentenced to 50 years, he should have served more than the 11. look at the planning, the sick

mind. go back to the 1976 kidnap and rape of katie callaway hall. he tried to abduct another woman, she fought him off. katie was not as fortunate. he rented this warehouse two weeks in advance. this was planned out. katie callaway hall pleaded with him, assault me and let's get it over with. he's like, no, i have this plan. michelle, i don't know where to begin when you talk about that sick planning. he had to live that fantasy out. >> well, yeah. this is clearly a predator. he was a child predator and he happened to catch katie callaway and brought her to a place that was set up, you know, with a mattress and carpeting and soundproofing. same m.o. >> that's right. >> the same m.o. he laid carpet up and down in the storage unit where katie callaway was taken. >> back to the point, how did we

not lock him up and throw away the key. >> i don't know how you can do anything but that. he has proven he cannot be released. >> i thick psychologically, we need to really understand how high the recidivism rate is for child sexual predators and really create a harsher system of keeping them in jail because clinically it is extremely rare to -- you don't get cured of this. >> especially the worst of the worst, right, michelle? >> yeah. >> zone in on them. >> the problem is once we know what can happen and not in all cases, but when you are violently sexually abused you can also then go on and become an abuser. that is not in all cases. >> i hate to cut you off. coming up, the latest on haleigy

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welcome back to "prime news" on hln. some parents were worried about president obama's speech to students. some hidden political agenda behind the speech. we heard nothing of that. some critics have shifted their outrage, zoning in on the lesson plan. necessary? call in. 1-877-tell-hln is the number. this might be the break investigators have been waiting for ah possible sighting of missing 6-year-old haleigh cummings. investigators in massachusetts, stepmother, misty, has relatives

there. the 17-year-old the last person to see haleigh say she tucked the little girl into bed the night of february 9th. she just disappeared.@@ t.j. hart program news director wsky in gainesville, florida. marlena schiavo, producer for "the nancy grace show." let's talk about the alleged sighting in massachusetts. >> some anonymous tips were given in the cape cod and boston area. a cup ol florida were being questioned about missing 6-year-old haleigh. there was a possible sighting of a girl matching a description of haleigh in massachusetts. haleigh is described three feet tall with blonde hair, brown eyes and a peanut shaped birthmark on her left cheek. >> marlena, what is the family saying about this?

ron cummings, anybody talking about this? >> absolutely. ron cummings said he couldn't sleep all night. i spoke to his attorney before i came to talk to you. he couldn't sleep knowing haleigh is possibly alive. haleigh's grandmother is praying this is her. they feel positive about this and hope they get more information soon. >> marlena, do you have more of a description of who haleigh was seen with? >> theresa said she was told she was seen with an adult, in a shopping cart, shopping with an adult. she didn't say if it was a male or female. the investigators haven't been telling them anything. she got a call from a reporter telling them. >> t.j., do you have more information? >> no. i'm trying to track down pictures or videotape. i have been working with walmart

officials to get more information. >> marlena, this has nothing to do with authorities talking to misty's brother, tim crosslynn who lives in massachusetts, correct? >> two separate issues of now. the authorities said they were questioning him with regard to phone records. this sighting just came as a coincidence around the same time. >> does crosslin live near where haleigh was spotted allegedly? >> she was spotted an hour and a half from where timothy and his wife live. >> okay. t.j. any more on that? has anybody been suspicious of tim crosslin, misty's brother, up until now? >> not really. i will tell you the situation is they have to talk to everybody. tim and his wife moved up there a couple of months ago for economic reasons.

maybe there was something that had come out in some other line of questioning that led them to make contact with them to also get further information. so they weren't in handcuffs. they have not been incarcerated. putnam county officials are being very tightlipped. >> marlena, do we know anything about the relationship between misty and her brother tim? >> misty has come out and said -- she speaks highly of her brother, tim. she doesn't think he has anything to do with haleigh's disappearance? >> do you concur with marlena? >> that is correct. i talked with tim miller. he did the voice stress analysis and failed polygraph with misty. any time timothy's name was mentioned timmy was regarded highly by misty. >> as we talk about this, the backdrop, we have to run,

marlena, is misty the last person to see haleigh? whether or not she is coming with a straight story t. authorities say there is not a straight story. have they talked to her since she reportedly failed the polygraph test? >> authorities have continued to speak to misty. they think she has the key to this investigation but right now they just cannot put their finger on what it is. they know there are some missing pieces from that puzzle the night haleigh went missing and misty is the only person who can fill them in. >> it will be up to her whether or not she wants to answer questions. >> good stuff, guys. we hope and pray for the safe return of little haleigh, almos@ missing seven months now. gut wrenching testimony from a grieving father. his son dead after a tough football practice in the heat. the coach now on trial for it and the dad having to admit

under oath@@ he initially did n see anything wrong with that practice.

welcome back. a former high school football coach on trial in a teenage player's death. today's testimony ended moments ago. coach david simpson facing serious charges linked to last year's death of max gillpin. a sophomore lineman. he died three days after collapsing in the heat of this intense practice. teammates of max took the stand today. some think they have never been through a practice like that. one player said the team ran at least 20 gassers, conditioning sprints. another player to testify, one who passed out that same day claimed he had stopped sweating. but the team was never denied

water. that is what coach simpson is accused of. 1-877-tell-hln is the number. joining me attorney nicole debord and tony kans. toni, let me start with you. let's start with the players here. did we get any of the players talking about being denied water? what did they unveil? >> i unveiled it was a very, very hard practice. both said they were dehydrated. one said he was so dehydrated he couldn't spit. he told his parents that. the issue about water, both players said water was given throughout the practice and they were not denied water. >> did they go as far, when the gassers started, the conditioning, did players ask for water then? was it offered? did they get that detailed?

>> no. these two players did not. >> normally at the end of practice water is not given. when you start running normally that doesn't happen. this is max gillpin's father, jeff. he testified early on. here is a key point with him, initially he didn't think the coaches did anything wrong. >> do you recall telling her that they being the coach did everything they could that i would have done? >> yes. >> do you recall telling her that max was never denied water? i didn't see anybody deny him water while i was there. that's correct. >> do you recall telling her you didn't see anything wrong with practice? >> at that point, yes.

>> let's go back to toni kanz. how much of the practice did dad see? >> he got there sometime after 5:30. they are saying max collapsed between 5:45 and 6:00. >> he saw roughly the end of practice. initially he did not think the coaches did anything wrong. he changed his mind. >> that is correct. he told a local television affiliate he didn't feel anything was done wrong and people started coming forward about water being deprived and witnesses from the nearby soccer field. two of those people testified today. that is when he figured something wasn't right. >> let's bring in nicole. dad saying that he initially was okay with practice, changing his mind, how big is that? >> i'm not sure it is particularly relevant. the dad got there for the last

few minutes of practice. he was occupied with other concerns. as soon as he realized his son was not well and collapsed. his recollection may be not as relevant as the people there for the duration of the practice. >> this is joe an gale, watching a soccer game on an adjacent field and started watching what was going on at practice. here is what she said about water. >> what did your hear him say in response to water? >> i'll let you know when it's time to get water. >> in a court of law, is that akin to a denial? >> that is pretty impactful testimony. basically this independent observer who is saying she heard the coach say i'll tell you when it's time to get water could be a pretty important thing she overheard for the jurors. >> how far away from the

practice was she, toni? that is important. >> they were adjacent fields, back-to-back fields. i'm not sure about how many feet. but very close where they could overhear the entire practice. >> let's get back to the players. nicole, as the players are talking, never run like this before. the numbers vary about how many gassers, sprints they ran at practice. >> i don't know if it is so much there was a denial of water. if there were any signs that some of these problems were having health concerns, these coaches, teachers, caring for our children while at school have to take on the role of a caretaker, parent. denying water, noticing health problems, seeing them stop sweating. >> toni, who is coming up to testify tomorrow? more players in. >> more players. we are not sure which one.

more players for the prosecution. >> toni, good to have you aboard. nicole, you as well. reality tv's tila tequila accusing shawne merriman of choking her. he says he was trying to help her because she was drunk. she says she is allergic to alcohol. what gives. who is telling the truth? i bring in jane velez-mitchell on that and we'll take your calls, 1-877-tell-hln. mr. evans? this is janice from onstar.

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welcome back. nfl star shawne merriman arrested after reality tv tila tequila says she choked her. tila says the san diego chargers linebacker grabbed her by the neck and wouldn't let her leave his house. merriman says he was trying to

stop her from driving home afted drinking. a case of two very different versions of what happened. jane velez-mitchell host of "issues with jane velez-mitchell" coming up at the top of the hour. i don't know what to believe. what is your take? >> i think they are both addicted to drama. this is a story that is he said, she said. it is getting uglier and uglier. she said he choked her. he said i was trying to stop her from leaving because she was intoxicated. oh, steroid abuse could be dangerous. now she is upping the ante. who knows what she is accusing him of. when she went to the hospital there is no report necessarily of her having any injuries and she is such a petite thing and he is such a huge guy. if he did do anything to her there would be a couple of bruises for proof. >> no marks on her neck,

nothing? >> my understanding is that i don't have any evidence that there are. okay. no photos. look at the rihanna case, you saw that photo. that shows you this was a serious incident. we don't have any of that in this case. on top of it, to defend her f she went to the hospital and she was drunk as he claims, maybe the nurses would have some evidence of that, too. so i don't see either of those two issues coming to the surface here. to me, this is an argument between two people who may or may not have hooked up but at the very least hanging out that night. >> it is getting ugly when she is dusting off the steroid allegation because he was suspended for four games, tested positive for steroid use 2006, missed four games last year. she is chucking that out there. how are we going to get to the bottom of this one? >> i didn't mean to laugh when you mentioned the issue of steroids.

it is a very serious issue and i don't want to make light of it. i imagined her tweeting. she is the master tweeter. she is dangerous because she has so on her tweet list, or whatever you would call that. so she actually has -- that's how she got her huge following was tweeting. so she can be a pretty dangerous tweeter and she better watch what she tweets because if she's tweeting something that's wrong, that could be a problem too. i think they both have lawyers at this point. >> dangerous tweeter, i don't know if i have ever used that term before, but she's it. she's a powerhouse, so far as tweeters go, right, jane? >> yeah, she really is. she has a huge following and that's how she became the diva she is by gathering all those people and that's a force to be reckoned with, because when she tweets, hey, i'm mad at so-and-so, you know that she's got an army. i think they call it tilla's army of people, who basically she says, jump and they say how high, and who do we write to? so don't miss with tila tequila.

>> the army could be becoming shawne merriman. haleigh cummings. a couple of new developments on that front. it could be big. a possible sighting in massachusetts. also misty cross lin's brother, tim, lives in massachusetts. now at least that the point it's two separate stories, where are you guys taking it, jane? >> i think it's pretty bizarre coincidence. >> yeah. >> that the authorities decide to interview misty's brother and then oh just by coincidence there's a sighting within,, what an hour and a half from where he lives. >> exactly. >> so that's a very bizarre coincidence, but the word bizarre seems to sum up this tragic case. none of it makes sense. none of it adds up. and we're going to be talking to an investigative journalist who has gotten down there and talked so many people and he's got new, new exclusive information for us tonight on "issues." >> we'll be watching, jane. coming up, more on president obama's speech. want to hear from you. pnip]p]

as a nation, can meet our greatest challenges in the future. >> all right even some of the more ardent critics didn't have any problem with the speech. sergeant though, didn't like the extra materials, some of the questions in that afterward. what do you think? taking your calls. 1-877-tell-hln. go to the phones. brian's with us in north carolina. brian, soundoff. >> caller: i let my kids watch the thing there and i would let them see the paper and i think some people just don't want their kids to be aware of what's going on. basically if they hear something about in this medical bill -- >> yeah. having the president talk about education -- brian, thanks for the call. having him inspire our kids, who's a better example? what you can do with a good education with him? whether you like his politics or

not, i thought it was a great speech today. donna, go ahead. >> caller: i just wanted to know who is giving the pep-talk to the teachers? because we have some of the worst teachers out there. and the students are telling -- my daughter, i have five children. one of them was told you might as well quit because you're going to fail. >> wow. >> caller: and i know that they are unpaid but you need to encourage them. >> donna, excellent point. we need to encourage our teachers. their job is huge. what they do now affects our kids and for generations to come. another call. james with us in delaware. james, sound-off. >> caller: yes, sir. i don't believe that it was -- the speech itself got people in our -- i believe what happened was about a week ago they gave a sound bite of what was going to be happening and part of that sound bite was a pledge of allegiance. and doing that pledge, the students said, a pledge of

allegiance to the president. >> oh, okay. >> caller: immediately after that, calls started coming in, news everywhere. they didn't want it. they didn't like it. didn't even have any idea what it was going to be about. >> james, thanks. james, the underlying point is there is too much adoration for the president and some said there was too much in the questions. personally, i thought the speech was good. i think our kids need to hear that. the education unlocks your future, basically. now the crib lumquestions afterward, personally i don't even know where you needed a curriculum afterward. i would trust that a teacher could just go to the students say, what did you think of the speech? were you inspired or not? but overall, i think the president speaking to our kids is a good thing, regardless of political affiliation. i think the president is our president. and our kids need hear him out. all right, thanks for sounding off.@ we'll do that each and every day. you help make "prime news" go. love hearing from you and so does jane velez-mitchell. "issues" with jane coming up. going to hit on the latest in the search for little haleigh cummings.r can cost you some money.

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