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breaking news tonight, satsuma, florida, a 5-year-old little girl tucked into bed, five hours later, she's gone. vanished. the back door propped wide open. daddy comes home from the nightshift to find not a trace of little haleigh. girlfriend, turned new stepmom, misty crosslin's own father doubts her story about the night haleigh disappears. now, that's a bombshell. stating plainly, she may have well well left the home and the
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two little children sleeping alone there. this blowing the case wide open. crosslin's brother and sister-in-law undergo 14 grueling hours of police interrogation. police demanding to know whether they helped crosslin hide little haleigh. crosslin's family now distancing themselves from the new bride. this on the heels of an alleged sighting at a local walmart here in the brother's home. police sifting through the brother's phone records. those records confirming multiple calls between crosslin and the brother the night haleigh disappears. in fact, the whole crosslin family and bio dad ronald cummings trying desperately to reach crosslin by phone the night of the kidnap. she responds to no one. and major blowup between haleigh's father ronald cummings and misty crosslin just before
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the child disappears. but is it motive for murder? after crosslin flunk a polygraph family and friends push him to undergo hypnosis about the night haleigh goes missing. she refuses. crosslin caught on tape, trying to explain the failed poly. we have the video. her bed reportedly not slept in the night haleigh vanishes. she now says up to four people in the home that night that caused her to dream-like memory. tonight, where is haleigh? >> more develops today in the case of missing 5 year haleigh cummings. says investigators questioned misty crosscrosslin's
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sister-in-law. claims investigators wanted to know if chelsea crosslin or tim ne crosslin helped sister misty crosslin hide haily. >> there were a series of phone calls between mist 'her brother timmy. the same brother that lives in massachusetts. had is what led a police to question him for a half a day regarding things that were said to him by misty the night haleigh went missing. >> questions remain about the alleged sighting of haleigh at a walmart south of boston saturday. police refuse to comment. >> law enforcement's being quiet about what actually took place. hey can't confirm anything at that time but there was obviously a report that haleigh was spotted up there in massachusetts, and they're checking this out. >> while police still have no suspects in the case, lindsey crosslin says the family is now pulling away from misty crosslin. >> the latest twist in this family feud is this final judgment against hank crosslin jr. he was the brother of misty cum, formally misty crosslin. it says hank jr. can't go within 500 feet of misty or her home. and adds, he cannot have any firearms or ammunition. >> lindsey crosslin says she no
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longer feels safe in the area and is moving. fearing that if she stays she is setting her own three children up to be stolen. >> ronald, has the theory that misty left the home some time during the night been disproved? >> i'm not sure. i believe that it has, nancy. i'm almost 100% sure but i wouldn't tell you that and lie to you. i'm pretty sure it has been disproved. >> do you believe she left the home and left the children alone, ronald? >> absolutely not. >> and tonight, live to connecticut, in the mystery surrounding the sudden disappearance of a gorgeous young ivy-league med students set to walk down the aisle this sunday. the 24-year-old beauty last spotted on grainy surveillance video walking into a yale research facility. a false fire alarm mysteriously goes off in the research building. people rush out and leavand le
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never seen again. where is 24-year-old annie le? >> police looking for any clue to the whereabouts of this yale student who disappeared days before her wedding. the search for annie le seems to be intensifying. fbi agents and state police search dogs enter the build wrongdoing she was last seen in an effort to find the 24-year-old yale medical student. and just moments ago, they began going through the garbage behind this building. fbi agents also spent time inside her new haven apartment. >> this surveillance photo is the last time anybody has seen le. friends say she was on her way to the lab. co-workers say she just vanished leaving behind all of her belongings and her future news. >> she left her pocketbook, her
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cell, everything in the lab. she's getting married sunday. her fiancee hasn't heard from her so everybody's pretty worried. pretty scared. >> good evening. ipnancy grace. i want to thank you for being with us. breaking news, girlfriend, turned new stepmom, misty crosslin's own father doubts her story about the night haleigh disappears. stating plainly she may very well have left the home leaving behind two little children sleeping there. >> they left me alone for six months. i've been the one, the main focus. they just need to move on and look for the right person. >> new details emerge in the case of missing 5-year-old florida girl, haleigh cummings. mist crosslin's family is speaking out. giving details about investigators reportedly questioning misty crosslin's brother, timothy crosslin and his wife chelsea. haleigh's aunt tox affiliate wofl -- >> stay in had chelsea questioning for like 14 hours. yeah, they took her in the
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morning. let her go home and then they went back in and got her. and she was questioned. they just asked her the basic same questions. do you know anything about haleigh? did you know -- did you or tim try to get her -- get -- help misty to hide haleigh? i mean, yeah. crazy questions. >> it was near cape cod, mass, where a tip was called in saying someone had sighted haleigh at a local walmart. >> anonymous tips from the phone in the media outlets in the cape cod and the boston area. match think the description of haleigh at a walmart store. >> haleigh's grandmother teresa nieves also said she was told that she was seen with an adult. she was seen in a shopping cart. shopping with an adult. she didn't say if it was a male or female. >> misty has been deceptive that her story's don't make sense and that the key to this case lies with her. >> straight out to jean casarez,
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legal correspondent with "in session." jean, bombshell tonight, her own father claiming she may not have been in the home the night little haleigh goes missing. that cracks the case wide open. >> this is brand-new information, nancy. and this is coming from misty cumming's own father. he is saying that she believes that she may not had been at that home for the entire evening that night. now that is corroborated by some the questions we're learning that putnam county authorities asked in massachusetts to misty's brother and his wife, chelsea. chelsea cummings, the aunt of haleigh, was questioned for 14 hours in massachusetts. taken back home. taken back to the police station and questioned again. and one question that keeps resurfacing and we're learning this first time tonight is that ronald cummings tried to get ahold of misty that night, the night that haleigh went missing. he couldn't reach her. he called misty's brother,
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tommy. tommy called misty's brother timothy to try to find out where misty was. nobody could find her. >> art harris, investigative journalist, has been in satsuma for the duration. art harris, this is huge, that her own father is now saying she may have left the home. not been there. i mean, that voids her entire story. it's all -- it's down the trash chute now. >> well, when your dad says he doesn't think you were at the trailer when you said you were, that's serious, nancy. he is also saying, though that he stands by misty. he doesn't put much stock in the lie detector test. but he says he doubts her story. >> to marlaina schiavo, our produce or the story from the get-go. what about it, marlaina. >> when i spoke to hank crosslin earlier today he said he puts absolutely nothing into those polygraphs, he thinks that they are ridiculous, and they mean nothing to him. he stands by his daughter. >> marlaina -- >> yes. >> marlaina --
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>> yes. >> don't care what anybody thinks about a polygraph, okay? >> okay. >> i'm asking you, not as a polygraph expert, not as a polygrapher, what do you know about the bombshell that her own father doubts whether she was in the home? >> he told me that he didn't have anything to do with hurting hail neany way but the one thing she might be guilty of is possibly leaving the trailer the night that haleigh went miss to. >> to marc klaas. marc, if it were just that simple, do you really think, marc klaas, that was a shot of poly klaas, that was marc's daughter who was abducted and murdered many years ago. marc, if it that were simple that she simply left the home, don't you think by now she would have broken down and said, okay, i left the home.
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i went to this party, or i went out with so-and-so, or i did this. that's what happened. i don't know where haleigh is. don't you think she would have crack said and told that if that were all she had to tell. >> well, i think that's quite possible but she was a 16-year-old child whose job was to look after somebody else's two young children. and i can only imagine that this girl would want to get out and have some fun of some kind, whether it was a party, whether it was a man, whether it was anything. but just to get out of that stifling environment that we've all become accustomed to over the years. so i think this scenario is very consistent with what could have happened. >> to bethany marshall. dr. bethany. psychoanalyst. author of "deal breakers." i don't think it's that simple. i do not believe that she would have held out this long and clung to a lie if her only fault was leaving the home that evening. >> well, i agree. and what is her father's motivation for saying that she
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wasn't at trailer that night? i think his motivation is it does not look so good if she was there and something happened to that little girl. if she committed an act of violence, if she let a predator in the home, if she had a party, she was high, it doesn't sound so good and he is covering for her. >> my feelings are, we need to find my daughter. >> do you think that misty holds information that could hold you back? >> i don't think so that she holds any information that's going to find haleigh.
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you said your back door was wide open? >> yes. >> what is her story about what happened that night? >> the same thing that she's telling police or whoever that she went to bed -- she put haleigh to bed. did some laundry. went to bed and woke up to the door propped open. >> there was a break, like a cinder block that was holding the screen door open. and that brick -- that door, that screen door's always
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closed, you know? that brick, i've never seen the brick even around there. the cop said there was a whole bunch of bricks about 50 feet away but i've never seen any bricks at all. >> what kind of description of her pajamas that she was wearing? >> i don't [ bleep ]. >> the officers are going to come out there and do what they can. >> we are taking your calls live out to wilma in alabama. hi, wilma. >> caller: hi. >> hi, dear, what's your question? >> caller: nancy, i'm one of our biggest fans. and my question is -- >> thank you. >> caller: -- the little girl, haleigh, do you think maybe she was daddy's little girl and misty being a little girl herself, there was competition and she couldn't take the competition? >> that's an excellent psychoanalyst, wilma in alabama. let's go to the shrink, what about it, dr. bathany? >> i think it's a great question
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that wilma asked but what they would be able to do is measure this in a forensic psychological evaluation by asking her to talk about the little girl. and what they would look for is their empathy or does she talk about her in a critical and punitive way in a resentful way, talking about little girl's relationship with the father. so it's a great question. i'm sure they've already explored this avenue. >> why are you so sure? >> you know, that's a good question, too. i think it's because she hasn't cracked. and when you ask a question, in my field when we say when you ask a question all you get is an answer p meaning you may not get back what you really wanted. so if do you circles around the question, you ask about the person's attitude towards the child. did they have empathy towards the child? was there a financial incentive to get rid of the child? did they want a child of their own? so they resented the fact that this was not their own biological child. then you get a better sense of what may have happened.
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>> out to terry schumaker, the attorney for ronald cummings, haleigh's father. terry, thank you for being with us. terry, what does ronald make of misty croslin's father announcing that she may not had been in the home the night that haleigh goes missing? >> caller: well, nancy, ronald really hasn't discussed that particular comment by misty's dad. i know that he was in my office yesterday and we spoke a lot about some phone calls that he'd received from misty's dad. and today he did not say anything to me specifically regarding that. but there has been a lot of friction. so he doesn't take much stock if anything they're say reith now. >> so he takes it all with the a box of salt. back to the lines. jennifer, washington. hi, jennifer. >> caller: hi, nancy. i was curious about the time line, whether nancy -- whether misty had called 911 before or after ronald got home? because the way she worded it, we can't find our daughter. it wasn't as -- >> well, i've got a shocker for
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you, jennifer. she did not call 911. 911 was not called until ronald cummings came in the door from the nightshift. she had not bothered to call 911. now, speaking of phone calls, unleash the lawyers. bill schaefer, former prosecute owftv, legal analyst, joining us out of florida. mickey sherman, high-profile attorney. author "how can you defend those people?" and returning to us renowned attorney, defense attorney out of the new york jurisdiction, richard herman. richard, you don't have a problem with misty croslin, the new bride, turned stepmom? she's on a three-day awol. she's gone. nobody can find her. she comes back to the home that day. that night her phone's ringing off the hook. her family, every member of her family's calling her. ronald cummings' calling her. but conveniently that night, the
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night the little girl goes missing, she won't pick up her cell phone. will not answer any telephone. what about it, herman? >> hey, nancy -- >> hi, richard. >> -- that's a small community out there. if she left that home, surely by now, someone would have seen her. someone would have come to the authorities and. >> can you answer the question? >> i don't know her. her phone was broken. there's a million reasons for that, nancy. >> no, mickey sherman, we have no evidence the phone was broken. we have no evidence there was anything wrong with her reception. that is b.s. all right! let's address the fact as we know them. nerve her family and her soon-to-be husband trying desperately to reach her. what about it, mick. >> it's weird, bizarre. >> that's what you got for me, it's weird. >> no and i also added bizarre. >> schaefer, what do you think? >> i think it's more sinister than bizarre. and it's noteworthy that not only does her own father not
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let me show you the back door. and show you how both doors close automatically. so -- and i'm also going to show you the lock because the lock is about three feet from the floor. and we know that that's about as tall as haleigh stands. so here's the back door. and here's the lock. it sticks. so there you go. now we open the back door and here's the back screen door, the one that was propped open with the cinder block. okay? now if you see, when it closed, it slams. it makes a loud noise but if you leave this door, this slowly closes as well. >> we are taking your calls live. out to dr. joshua perper. we know that the home was the crime scene, at least of a
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kidnap. now why do you believe it may be difficult to find evidence of a perpetrator in the home? >> well, the reason is the victim was a small child. and it was not difficult to take her especially considering the fact that she had some kind of intellectual challenges because of her syndrome which she had. so certainly she would know the person who took her, there would be no problem. but even if the person would be a trancher, she wouldn't react as a normal child. and if the person would be gentle and didn't cause her any kind of pain, there would be nothing to be found. because there's no struggle. >> exactly. >> a child cannot struggle effectively. >> art harris, what can you add. >> i can add that dr. perper's onto something. would not behave in a placer way. who overheard talking to misty
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one night when he said if haleigh acted up to go ahead and spank her. in other words use corporal punishment on her so there is evidence that she did get a little bit upset at times. >> ronald, do you feel that misty is key to this investigation? >> no, i don't. i think they are barking up the wrong tree.
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a yale graduate student is missing. >> annie le is a bride to be, planning to be married on sunday. declared missing by yale police. this surveillance video was distributed showing her on tuesday morning here at the ten amistad building. she's not been seen since. her wallet person cell phone found left behind at her desk. >> energetic, always smiling, they loved her in the lab. great future ahead of her so
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we're just praying that she's just going to pop up somewhere and everything's okay. >> reporter: the tone and the tenor of this case has now changed. police cruisers line the street. there are search dogs going down that sidewalk. this evening, agents began searching the garbage found outside the building where annie le was last seen. >> 24-year-old annie le described as 4'11", 90 pounds. she disappeared without a trace. >> straight out to thomas caplane, the editor and chief of "the yale daily news." they broke the student of the missing student. thomas, what can you tell me about the investigation? you know, wait, let's back it up. let's go back through what we know about her disappearance. >> okay, well at this point, all we really know is that on tuesday morning, she went to work, as usual to her office. at about 10:00, she left her purse in her office, took her i.d. card, walk a couple of blocks to a laboratory she often
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went to. she swiped her card. went into the laboratory. and that's the last anyone's seen of her. >> was she scheduled to be in the laboratory at that time? >> it's not clear, but what we do know is that it was a commonplace that she worked. she would do experiments there. so that was nothing out of the ordinary. she had co-workers there and that was sort of a standard stop for or hoer any day. >> thomas kaplan joining us from "the yale daily news." what you can tell me about her? her wedding is set -- today is thursday. in any 72 hours. >> well, right, that's what's so strange about her. her friends and co-workers have said she's been planning her wedding for about a year now. she's been looking forward to it. very excited. she's a very sort of upbeat, outgoing, always sort of smiling. and that's what i think makes it so strange. there was no hint that anything was amiss. and really no hint that she had any issues with the wedding or any thoughts about the wedding. she seemed perfectly excited. and that's what everyone thought. >> to ted larson, reporter with metro network, joining us from
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norwich, connecticut. also on the story. ted, thank you for being with us. ted, what can you tell me about that false fire alarm that went off that morning in the research building where she was? people began rushing out of the building. none of the video surveillance seems to have captured her running out of the building but yet she's never seen again. >> well, she was in the building at about 10:00 and the alarm was at about 1:00 so there was a few hours in between that she was inside the building. but with all of the obvious chaos from a fire alarm going off and people rushing in and out, even looking at that video, it may be very hard to see whether or not she went in or out, or whether she was with anybody at that time. >> so she would had been in the building from 10:00 to 1:00. ted lorson is there surveillance all around the building. >> in is surveillance all around the building and there are a lo of cameras that police will have to go through and look through and i'm sure they've been doing that but so far as all of the way around, i'm really not sure
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exactly what camera view you have. >> here is a picture of her, annie le, just 24 years old. that's photos of annie and her fiance from facebook. they're set to be married this sunday in about 72 hours. back to thomas kaplan. editor in chief "yale daily news." what about the surveillance video around that research building? >> well from what we understand in sort of the chaos of everyone exiting the building, it was just really hard to make out the identities of the folks coming in and out. and there was nothing, at least on the sort of first viewing of the tape, that showed her exiting the building. >> now wait a minute, wait a minute. did she work in a kuby? did she work in a laboratory. >> it's more of a laboratory. >> was anybody in there? was she in the lab by herself? nobody can establish her being in there. >> people saw her when she got to work that morning but nobody really know where she went is my understanding. >> okay, now hold on. do you mean where she left her
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purse she was -- we've gite witness, or when she went to the laboratory we've gate witness? is. >> so there are two different buildings we're talking about. >> yeah. >> she left her purse in the office at first. >> right. >> and then walked to the lab there's an electronic record of her key card being used to enter the lab but that's sort of the last marker that we have. >> let me rephrase, thomas. once she got to the laboratory, did any living person verify they observed her there. >> i'm not 100% clear on that. >> okay. >> but i believe so. >> now, clark goldband, our producer on the story. clark, when did the fbi start going through the trash? >> now nancy, our understanding this has happened in the last few hours. >> i'm sorry i could not hear you. repeat our understanding this has happened in the last few hours and also tell you that law enforcement is also searching annie's apartment. they arrived there just a few hours ago. about four officers. >> clark, today's thursday, is it not. >> yes, ma'am. >> we know she's missing by 1:00 tuesday, correct? >> christmyes, ma'am.
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>> tom shamshack, you're the former cop, you're the former police chief, you're the instructor at boston university. you're the private investigator. why the heck are they just now going through the trash? the trash from tuesday's probably has been thrown in an insernrator, why are they just now going to her apartment? hello. >> yeah, investigative 101. what they should have been h be doing early on is looking at every container that was removed from the building regardless of the size, they should have wn, interviewed everybody in the building. you raised a very good point about nobody actually seeing her at that site. her card was used. could somebody else had used that card to get in there? i think they were a little slow to jump on this case quite frankly. >> thomas kaplan, i really don't have a doubt that she went into the -- there she is right there. that's video surveillance of her. is that her going into the laboratory. >> yeah. >> okay. so we know that was her that
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swiped. but shamshack raises a good point. we know that she was in that laboratory. we know it was after 10:00, between 10:00 and 1:00. that's when the alarticle went off. we know that she left behind her pocketbook, her keys, her credit cards, her atm, her driver's license. the works were in that pocketbook, but thomas kaplan, who's running the investigation? is it the university police? >> it's the yale police department. although, the state police and the fbi are also assisting. >> why is the campus police running a possible homicide investigation? >> well, i think the situation there is because it happened within the sort of territory for which the yale police has jurisdiction, they tyke the lead on those investigations. although the fbi has been heavily involved today. and they conducted the search. >> yeah, well that's a day late and a dollar short. where are her parents? >> that's a good question. we haven't heard anything publicly from her parents.
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although the yale police did release a statement today saying that her family and fiancee have been cooperating with the investigation. >> we're taking your calls. lakeishia in indiana. hi, dear hi nancy. i'm one of your biggest fans. i watch you every night with my little baby. >> thank you for watch. hey, little baby uneed to be in bed. >> caller: well, she's the third-shift baby. i than your kid be up at night sometimes before you get to the studio. >> oh, yes, they're up right until i leave. and i pray that they're not up when i get home. okay. >> caller: yeah, i only live off of four hours ofly sleep but it's okay with me. i'm just happy that i have a baby and that i'm blessed. >> me too, me too. >> caller: i was wanting to know if her boyfriend and her were arguing monday night before she became -- before this disappearance basically? >> you know good question. clark goldband, first of all let
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me get to the grass tax. where was the fiancee at time she goes inning. >> it's our knowing she was in new york city attending columbia university. >> in graduate school at columbia university. so i don't care if they argued or not as long as he's got an alibi and we can lock it in at the time she goes missing, it doesn't matter. but let's answer lakeishia's answer. to ted lorson, any rift between the two? >> i've heard nothing of that and i've seen reports today that the fiance is not considered a suspect at that time. >> we are take your calls live. a brainy beauty, annie le, just 24 years old, a brilliant researcher at yale university is gone. as we go to break, our prayers go out tonight to friend of the show, lieutenant colonel and u.s. arts directorate, jeff henderson. he heads to both iraq and afghanistan for a third tour. an apache helicopter pilot 23
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a bride to be vanishes just days before her dream wedding? a ceremony friend says she was excited about it. been planning for a year. >> this may be the last account of 24-year-old annie le. >> we're finding it extremely strange and unexpected that things would like that happen to a student in this manner. i mean she -- it's not like she's going it a weird pleas. >> police say this surveillance video was caught after she left her office. police found all of her belongings inside of sterling including her purse, wallet and money. investigators believe she took her grad school irchlts d. there was a fire alarm at sterling so that's why her belongings may have been left inside. >> the surveillance video shows her going into a laboratory. and does not show her leaving.
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and that the point, she has not been found. >> to the lines. patricia in georgia. hi, patricia. >> caller: good evening. how are you? >> i'm good, dear, what's your question. >> caller: my question, just curious. are both sides of family in favor of this wedding? are they supportive? >> what do we know about it, thomas kaplan? >> i've not heard from the family at all. all we know is we're told they're cooperating but we don't know anything about that. >> let's unleash the lawyers. bill schaefer, orlando. mickey sherman, new york. richard herman from new york, been joining us out of las vegas tonight. i don't even want to know what you're doing in vegas, herman. >> researching. >> right. weigh-in, bill schaefer. >> listen, earlier you asked why did this investigation lag? i'll tell you why it lagged because as early as wednesday, campus police are saying that the facts are more consistent with not -- no foul play.
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that this girl just disappeared. look, if you believe -- >> you mean, she's pulling a jennifer wilbanks? >> i'm going to say, if you believe she's a runaway bride as opposed to being a victim of some foul play, perhaps you'll believe me, nancy, when i tell you though that i'm george clooney's body double. >> now, mickey sherman, do you agree with schaefer, that this is more likely a kidnap or a foul play as opposed to a missing bride. >> yeah, it doesn't sound like a jennifer wilbanks' situation. what you have to remember is yale university is beautiful as it is kind of set in the middle of new haven. remember that more case mains years ago that we talked about on court tv. where the man was murder right in the halls of yale. >> i remember. i remember. >> good things can happen to good people in very nice places. >> richard herman. >> pretty lady, let me just say as marc klaas teaches us the first time, the first 24 to sen 2 hours are critical. it look like they dropped the ball the first 24 hours. they've got to wake up. the fbi's got on get on this.
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i don't think this is a mistake. >> marc klaas, herman is right. >> well, he is right. and i think people have to understand that college campuses are not the safe haven that people believe they are. in fact, college women are more likely to be victims of sexual assault than their noncollege-bound peers. 1 in 5 college-bound women is going to be a victim of an attempted sexual assault during their lifetime. and assaults on campuses are more often that the not conducted by somebody that is known to the victim. >> out to the lines. nancy, pennsylvania. hi, nancy. >> caller: hi, nancy. i finally got through. i'm so excited. >> thank you for calling in, dear. what's your question? >> caller: well, partially answered it because my first impression is i thought maybe she was a runaway bride but my actual question is this. maybe it's work related. maybe she was taken because of some project she was working on?
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>> interesting theory. thomas kaplan, what was her research? >> we don't really know. she was a graduate student in the pharmacology department. but that's all we know. we don't know specifically what she was working on. >> i'm not getting the feeling that she's been kidnapped because she has some super secret cure to a disease. i don't get it. but back to you, bill schaefer. following up on the runaway bride theory. you don't think that's accurate, why? >> she left all her personal effects, her money, her credit card, her wallet, her identification. if you're going to plan a runaway, you're not going to run away and leave all of those object it's. >> wait a minute, jennifer wilbanks did. remember she went out for a jog. and all she had on was the clothes on her back and some cash. >> yeah burke she's crazy for haven's sakes. >> okay, well -- okay you got me! okay, what about it, weigh-in, jean? >> something, nancy that hasn't been brought. you you're not going to like this. it is reminiscent of virginia
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tech but yale university knew she was missing tuesday afternoon. they saw that she left her purse and her cell and her money and her credit cards. they did not alert the student body that someone was missing. it wasn't until wednesday, yesterday, that they told the student body that there was a missing person. >> thomas kaplan, is that true? and if so, what's going on up there? >> well, we know that her going missing was first reported to the police tuesday evening. the first notification to the public came wednesday afternoon. so it's not immediately clear how quickly her co-workers got suspicious that maybe something had happened. >> well, even at best, we know is tuesday evening. and the campus was not alerted until 24 hours later. >> a little less than that. it was the afternoon on wednesday. but there was some lag. >> why. >> between the two times. that's unclear at this point. >> well, what is the -- what are the authorities saying at yale? >> i think -- i think the explanation is given so far -- >> nobody's going to ask?
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so well, i think what they have said is they were trying to sort of look into it and find out what might have happened, where she might had gone before blacking out. >> so many people are dropping the ball in the search for this young girl, set to be this girl. after we go to break, happy birthday to truly one of the sweetest people i know. donna abrams, married to steve abrams and mommy to two golden labs. she's artistic, creative, a tennis player with a lot of heart and she loves chick-fil-a. she's even been known to dress up like a cow, go to chick-fil-a and get a free sandwich. donna, happy birthday.
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state police blood hound has been called in and they've been searching this area. annie lee works on cedar street and comes here to the lab. police have been using their dogs to go up and down the streets to look for the scent of the missing yale student. >> ironically, she had just written this article, "crime and safety." clark, what was she saying on her facebook? >> on her page as recently as
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sunday, she was counting down the days to her wedding. >> ann, give me her description. >> she was a small little girl, 4' 11" tall. 90 pounds. last time she was seen, a knee-length green skirt, brown shoes and necklace. >> she had so many risk factors for being a victim. she was small and vulnerable. she walked the same route every single day. she was on a college campus. she was 24 years old. women between 20 and 24 are at the greatest risk of stalking and because she was about to get married, was someone stalking and extremely jealous. let's stop and remember
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marine sergeant ryan. on the second tour, dreamed of serving in the marines since high school like his father. dreamed of building his life with his wife. leaves behind his parents, brothers and widow, valerie. thanks to our guests, but especially to you for being with us and happy birthday to phyllis. secret, stay happy and healthy and leave negative behind. mom of 17 sons. happy birthday, mimi. i'll see you tomorrow night, 8:00 sharp eastern. until then, good night, friend. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com
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up next, horrifying new details about the early days and years of jaycee dugard's captivity. we are going to talk to a defense attorney who was sources close to the investigation revealing how she was kidnapped, how they went child shopping the day before. how she was kept for three years in isolation and the sexual violation. it's horrific. and there are other cases just like it. we'll look at the parallels, the connection to drugs and perverse sex. and speaking of perverse sex, another scandal, a family values conservative lawmaker asked to step down after he's caught
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bragging about sexual conquests. it's all coming up on "issues."
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