a huge break in the murder of a yale grad student, a lab technician arrested and charged today in the death of annie le. raymond clark, iii, now sits behind bars accused of strangling a bride-to-be. who is this guy? what kind of a relationship did he have with annie le? plus, new developments surrounding casey anthony. two new people set to be grilled in her first degree murder place. her brother lee's girlfriend and a private investigator who worked for the anthony family. a little girl's dead and they may have inside knowledge. what did they know? love to hear from you. call in on these topics

1-877-tell-hln. e-mail cnn.com/primenews or text us. just start your message with the word "prime" your chance to be heard. >> controversy, opinion, your point of view. this is "prime news." welcome this is "prime news." i'm mike galanos. first breaking news a story we've covered on a daily basis. moments ago a jury in louisville, kentucky announced its decision in the trial of a high school football coach charged in the death of one of his players. the verdict, not guilty on both counts. the two counts reckless homicide and wanton endangerment. over a year ago 15-year-old max gilpin collapsed and died three days later, collapsed in a very intense practice on a hot august day. the emotional reaction, you can almost hear it in the background. tears, tears of joy for coach david stinson and his family. we'll continue to follow this for you and have more a little bit later on, a couple of things to look at, what did they fail to it prove? legal definition of "recklessly

failing to perceive the risk, a risk a reasonable person would observe in a situation" obviously the prosecution could not prove this. we'll talk about the case for me personally, what can we learn from this? that's way want to know. hopefully, coaches around the nation are taking note of this and we're going to be wiser in the way we train our kids. more on that coming up in just a little bit. now to this story, another story we're following very intensely at this very moment, the man suspected of killing a yale grad student is behind bars. police in new haven, connecticut arrested raymond clark just this morning and today he was charged in the death of annie le. the guy's 24, police say he strangled this innocent bride-to-be, stuffed her body in a wall where it was found on what should have been her wedding day. so many questions here. did he know her, if so, what kind of relationship did they have. we know this, they both worked at the same research lab, same building. he had access to her. here's what police are saying. >> i think it's important to

note this is not about -- crime or university crime or domestic crime but an issue of workplace violence which is becoming a growing concern around the country. >> all right. there you go, workplace violence. we'll talk about that, what se referring to there. i want to hear from you 1-877-tell-hln is the number you guys have had some great questions about this case. so, please, feel free to call in. joining us to talk about it welcome back dr. clay watson, foreinsic psychiatrist also wit us dr. michelle dupree, medical examiner, forensic pathologyist and marsha chambers editor of the "branford eagle" mar sharks starting with you a lot of people want to know what kind of relationship did raymond clark, iii, have with the victim, annie le? >> not clear exactly what the nature of the relationship was, but they were clearly in the same lab for about three years. he was a 2004 gradual of branford high school and she

came to yale about three years ago. and he was a techie, which is a kind of a nicely put word for a guy who cleaned the cages and took carol of the rats and the rodents and stuff like that. and apparently, he had certain standards and they were, i gather, involved in some sort of an e-mail relationship because he was concerned that she wasn't taking good enough -- or clean enough care of the animals. that's still speculative. the police have been pretty quiet about exactly what happened, but that's the basic situation, they were in contact. >> okay. marsha, where are you getting that, the e-mail exchange back and forth? it's obviously interesting talking about someone who has standards like that and it sounds very intense standards that's the picture you are painting here. can you tell us more about where that information is coming from? >> it's just sort of the scuttlebutt around. >> got you. >> it's not been affirmed specifically. the cops are being pretty close to the vest on this.

>> got you. >> so -- >> okay. okay. again, cnn/hln not confirming that but we have so many questions about this. when we talk evidence let's bring in dr. michelle dupree, again medical examiner. with the arrest of raymond clark, iii, does this mean his dna was all over this crime scene, is that what you can deduct here? >> it probably means they at least found some on the crime scene or on the body, absolutely. >> okay. what we know here, michelle, they collect 250 pieces of evidence. seems like a pretty quick turnaround to get that arrest. what do you think they found? how did they connect the dots here? >> they may have found epithelial cells under the fingernails that would match the suspect's. they could have found some kind of fluid, anything that would actually give them dna, positive results. >> okay. that's what we have here, again an arrest, raymond clark, iii, arrested and charged in the murder of annie le. let's get back to the question of who is this guy? richard levin, yale university

president talked about that. gave us a thumbnail of who raymond clark, iii, is. >> mr. clark has been a lab technician at yale since december 2004. his supervisor reports that nothing in the history of his employment here gave any indication that his involvement in such a crime might be possib possible. it is very disturbing to think that a university employee might have committed this terrible crime. but, as i reminded our community, we must not let this incident shatter our trust in one another. >> okay. again, back to marcia chambers, editor of the "branford eagle" does he have any violent criminal history, marcia? >> he doesn't have any violent criminal history except one incident we can report and i reported on that appeared in the "new haven independent" which

occurred september 29th, 2003, when both he and his then girlfriend or -- or -- about to be his former girlfriend were both seniors at branford high school and she wanted to break up with him and he was very disturbed about that. he confronted her in the hallway, near where they had lockers. a dispute occurred. the situation was bad enough that the assistant principal summoned the police and, when the police came, they told clark that he was not to have any further contact with the girl. and then, the school official said that they would clean up the locker and they would take care of that part that. occurred in 2003. and then a few days later, the girl came to the police station with her mother and she told police that she had a sexual relationship with clark for a little while and that, at one point, he forced her to have sex with him. the relationship, however, continued, despite that. >> the relationship continued after that. >> yes, it did continue. i mean, this was in the context of the continuation of the

relationship. but, at this point in, in september of 2003, she wanted to break up. >> okay. >> she was, at that point, also concerned about what he might do as a result of the break-up. she was fearful in some way and she wanted to let police know that but she also told them that she would not press criminal charges. the detective who was assigned to the case did notify clark's parents about the situation and his parents, they did live in branford for a number of years. and so, that incident occurred but did not -- it did not result in any arrest. >> okay. all right. let's take a quick break here. when we come back i want to get dr. clair watson in on that as we see maybe not a criminal history but a history of an incident like that. we'll take your calls 1-877-tell-hln. stay with us. before i started this job, i admit, i had some doubts. probably a lot like you. but i like what i found. i think you will too. car for car, when compared to the competition, we win. simple as that.

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welcome back to "prime news" on hln reading facebook comments on this case. the annie le murder investigation. there's the man arrested, charged with her murder, raymond clark, iii, lab technician. he worked in the same lab at yale university with the victim, annie le. let me read one of the facebook comments, questions here, from teresa g. on facebook. writing this. i can't figure out what in the lab would make him so angry as to kill someone especially since he doesn't seem to have a history and about that history we just talked with reporter marcia chambers about an incident in high school in 2003, where he showed somewhat violent behavior to now a former girlfriend. dr. clay watson forensic psychiatrist, a lot to die jest here, i know. >> yes. >> what do you see here as a possible motive for raymond clark, iii? >> well, the first piece is that

it's important to note that there was a history of violence for this young man. and that gives us an idea of whether or not this person is capable of violence in the future. now, whether or not he has a particular motive now, we're not sure. we're still figuring these things out but based on what we've heard so far, he has issues of control. he's been rejected in the past, it sounds like and became violent with a high school girlfriend and then there, a blow to his self-esteem for mim hey have been reached and he needed to regain that. so, in a situation you can imagine with miss le, if she confronted him or criticized him in some way or even this e-mail exchange where she wasn't doing things the way that he wanted her to, they may have been a confrontation and possibly he became enraged and the only way for him to regain his sense of power and control was to become violent. >> back to marcia chambers. real quick, what was the working

relationship that we know between them? she was researcher and he basically did customerial work. so, she would have been above him in that lab setting, correct? >> oh, yes. not only that, she was a ph.d. student and in pharmacology and an student in the med school. she certainly had enormous promise. she was, in effect, you know, her parents were actually it was interesting because she's vietnamese and he was a member of an asian club in high school but he was a girl who had done superbly and he was a good student at branford high school but, you know -- >> okay. couple things to hit on there. clay, let me go back to you, from what we're hearing, i mean, not like there is a personality disorder when i believe when you talk to family and friends. all i'm reading an honor student, likable guy. so, how do you go from that to what we could have here, again accused in the murder of annie le? >> right. this is what makes it so shocking. you know unfortunately for many

of the viewers who, you know, and certainly myself, as well, we would really like to feel comfortable that we be able to sort of pick out the boogie man in the room and say, okay, this is the person that would be likely to behave this way but in all actuality, many people are -- you know, it's possible for many people to do lots of extreme things. most of us have some mechanism in place to put the brakes on when we become enraged dealing with our own issues and anger and such. but, for some people, those brakes, for one reason or another, under certain circumstances, they're not there. and then it goes to the extreme and their behavior is such that it's really shocking to all of us. >> okay. back to marcia chambers. as you relayed that e-mail exchange was there an under current of anger toward it. >> i haven't seen the e-mail exchange. >> okay. >> this is just what, you know, i don't know. i think the police will be able to, you know, to get to that and to explain it and i agree that it's very difficult at this

point to make any determination on exactly what happened here. we were able to get melissa bailey, at the "new haven independent" was able to find his former girlfriend on facebook. and was -- and was able to get some information that way. and she said that that whole -- realizing that what he had been accused of made her feel like the event was right back, or she was 16 all over again, bringing everything back. she was very distressed. and -- >> you mean she was distressed about the annie le situation. >> yes. and that this whole thing brought back her own memories. >> i see. >> of her own situation with him. >> got yeah. >> she said, quote, it's been a rough few days. >> let's take a quick break. we'll of much more of this coming up more with dr. clay watson on that front. thanks to the reporting of marcia chambers with history here. again with your calls, you have good ones on this. 1-877-tell-hln is the number.

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welcome back to "prime news" on hln continuing our conversation again breaking news in the murder of annie le, that man right there, raymond clark, iii, has been charged in her murder. we know this, that the two worked together in the same lab at yale university and we're also finding out he has a history muof violent tendencies anger issues we'll say dating back to a former girlfriend he had in high school of 2004. we have our experts standing by and taking your calls, as well 1-877-tell-hln is the number. cheryl with us from ohio. your comment or question? cheryl? cheryl? okay. hopefully we'll get cheryl back. she was be having patient there. please call in. you guys have really good questions on this. a facebook comment, anna chiming in on facebook writing it is possible that she may have rejected him because she was already set to get married, if

not, what other motive could there be? back to dr. clay watson. is that what you are -- is that the -- a strong possibility you to, clay? >> there are lots of possibilities. given the amount of information we have about this case, there are lots of things it could be. was it that? some sort of obsession. was it that they had some sort of relationship that we don't know about? was it that there was simply an argument, they ran into each other at the wrong time. he had a lots of things going on in his life at the time. there was a confrontation and argument that just went to the extreme measure or something more diabolical? we don't know. there are lots of possibilities. and, as we get more information from the police, certainly from the perpetrator, then we'll find out. >> okay. back to marcia chambers editor of "branford eagle" his fiance worked in that same lab, right and sister and brother-in-law. are they talking yet? >> no.

they aren't talking yet. i think the police did give her, the girlfriend, the fiance, a lie detector test that i read she passed. i might add here the new haufn police chief this morning said at a press conference that this was not a case involving romance. >> okay. >> at least -- i mean, whether that may not be -- i mean, it's hard to describe exactly the full implications of that except that they were not looking at it as a romantic rejection. >> okay. excellent point because we have had that question come at us the last couple of days and definitely today on facebook. mark, just getting word the lawyer called us at prime news, the former lawyer no longer representing raymond clark, iii. he will be represented at least this time by a public defender. what do you make of that, a lawyer bailing out so soon? >> money. there's the answer. >> plain and simple, huh? >> this is a huge case. this gentleman is in the fight for his life. the easily six figures deep.

s it -- i mean, dna evidence has to be analyzed, experts, this will cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to defend. >> mark, how do you think this went down? 2350 pieces of evidence. they searched his car and took dna. you think it was a pretty quick add-up to get to arrest here? >> yeah, i think that they had extensive forensic evidence indicating that he was the sole person responsible and i can't think of any possible defenses at this point, assuming he did this, other than trying to get a lesser included offense, pleading the case out to something less. i don't know, temporary insanity not with all the lengths he went through to conceal his identity after the offense. >> okay. guys we'll have to leave it  there. like to thank our experts. when we come back, an update in the casey anthony case. we know the prosecution wants to talk to casey's brother, lee's girlfriend mallory and also a private investigator. what could they know? óóóóóóóóóó

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1-877-tell-hln is the number. want to hear from you on this one a story we have followed daily, a jury in louisville, kentucky has acquit ad former high school football coach in the death of one of his players. here was the verdict read just moments ago. >> under instruction number one, reckless homicide, we, the jury, find the defendant, david jason stinson, not guilty under instruction number one. verdict under instruction number two. want ton endanger minute in the first degree. we, the jury, find the defendant, david jason stinson, not guilty under instruction number two. >> again, max gilpin sophomore lineman 15-year-old collapsed at practice. this was a year ago august. the team was running a series of sprints they call them gassers, heat index, 94 that day. max's body temperature, 107. some speculate it could have been higher. he died three days later. want to hear from you on this verdict 1-877-tell-hln's the number. joining us to talk about it former prosecutor thomas ken et,

also mark eiglarsh and ton toni kons on this since day one. starting with you, what was the reaction in the courtroom when the verdict was read. >> the reaction was very, very emotional particularly from the stinson camp, his wife, monica, shook and was crying. now the judge gave orders, to begin with, not to have any kind of emotional outburst in the courtroom but lots of sobbing. jason stinson turned and immediately hugged his attorney, brian butler. lots of emotion. >> how about any comment or emotion from max gilpin's family, mom, dad -- >> the family on max's side was -- i don't know how to describe it, other than that i think maybe shocked there. was not really much reaction at all. they had straight, you know, straight faces as they were walking out. though not from them, as well. >> okay. let's get our lawyers in on this one as we find out why this went this way. i mean, it did not take the jury very long to come to their

conclusion. thomas starting with you, what did the prosecution do wrong, where did they drop the ball here? >> mike, i don't know if it's so much a matter of what they did wrong. i mean, it was a tough case because on the one hand you wanted to see this coach sort of held accountable for what some people describe as an exceptionally gruelling practice, the word "barbaric" was thrown around but at the same time the concern among everybody either involved in this case or was spectating on this case through the media, and so forth. in the verdict would have come down guilty in this case, what sort of effect would that have had on high school sports or amateur sports, youth sports. >> right. >> -- all around the country and would a guilty verdict in this case really kind of chill, you know, that enthusiasm, that adults have to get involved in children's sports, volunteer for little league, to be high school coaches and so forth. >> yeah, that was a concern there. but, mark, as we look at this, you know, and i'll say this, if he was guilty then so be it and there maybe needs to be a chill

factor. but that's somewhat of a different argument. when i look at this case, i just don't know if you had the rules in place to say, coach, you violated x, y, and z and, by that, you are guilty. right? it just wasn't cut and dry. >> that's correct, mike. every criminal case the state has to have sufficient evidence. in this case, they a tough burden. it was a willful and than whaton disregard of human life and most people, first of all, felt like this coach was a decent person and second of all that it didn't rise to that level. perhaps he was negligent, perhaps he should have done things differently. >> right. >> but to hold him accountable and send him to prison for ten years, i think the prosecution just didn't have it. >> back to toni kons, again doing a great job reporting on this, has coach stinson, has he ever talked about any regrets of how he ran practice that day? are we expecting an interview from him any time soon? >> well, he did not give an interview today to the media. there was lots and lots of media, national media, local

media. i've never seen so much media in my life outside the courtroom today. he came out, walked right past all the media, did not talk to anybody now before -- now before the verdict when we heard there was a verdict, they did do a huge prayer circle, the first time i had heard, you know, jason stinson say anything throughout this trial. >> mike -- >> go ahead, toni, finish up. toni, he's never expressed regret how that practice was run that day, is that correct? >> not that i can tell, no. >> the reason i ask that, i hope at some point we'll get that oechlt i'd love to talk with the coach. we have an invitation to talk with the coach -- nimplsts his defense. >> mark, let me finish making a point. just that he will have an opportunity -- we can learn from this. my end goal with this, i don't think they had it to find a guilty verdict. i just hope we can learn, as parents, as football fans, what we can expect of our kids and we want responsibility from our coaches and wisdom from them as they train our kids. mark, go ahead. >> in his defense, his attorney, i'm certain would, have told

him, listen, they'll be time after the acquittal without ten years hanging over your head to tell it the public how sorry you are and wish things had been done differently but i'm sure we'll hear that later. he couldn't have done all that because that would have affected his outcome. >> good follow-up. >> -- a civil trial coming up, as well. >> max gilpin's parents filing against not the school but coach stinson specifically, toni? >> that's correct. against him and several other coaches and the principal at the school and that's going to go to trial in february of nexter. >> real quick, thomas, how do you see the civil going? do you think easier burden of proof, right? >> much easier burden of proof. and i think a lot of people thought that that's what this was, that was a civil -- as high as the supreme court has said, that school districts coaches, they act in lot parentes, in place of the parents, i should say. they have a duty in this case to guard after these children. one thing absolutely inexcusable

in this case we brought that up, not giving these children water. one thing coaches learn, anyone should know at this point, whenever you are doing any sort of strenuous training, water, water, water, you have to hydrate the children, hydrate the athletes, no matter how hard you want to run them. >> safety first. hopefully what we'll learn out of this. do we want hard work on a football field? certainly we do, part of the lessons our kids learn playing football but again want to do it responsible. toni, you've done a great job hopefully we'll talk again, soon. mark, thomas, appreciate your insights, too. >> thanks. >> coming up, we do a lot of stories that will break your heart this will do your heart good. a young -- little guy, there he is little d.j., rescued from a burning man because two men risked their lives. they laid down their lives, sacrificed so that this it little guy could live. we'll talk to one of the heroes. we'll talk to d.j.'s dad. if you want to call in, please do. 1-877-tell-hln's the number. úapa in my busy kitchen, i want nothing but the best.

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welcome back. thanks to two heroic off-duty firefighters risking their lives, a 5-year-old boy is alive today. just left the hospital, complete strangers, pulled d.j. harper out of a burning suv, two months ago in milwaukee. here was the scene. >> we need water. get back. there's a baby in there. >> so many people rushed to the aid of that -- look how cute he s. the little bandaged face. gosh, don't you want to give him a hug? put a packer shirt on him. i know they have the balloons there in milwaukee. a great story this little guy is out of the hospital, going home, a ronald mcdonald house. the heroics instead of mourning and grief joy for a little guy on his way to a ronald mcdonald house. i love this story. joining us to talk about it d.j.'s father chris harper and one of the heroes, john

reclids he and his brother, joel, risked their lives and went into the burning van. first off, chris harper, how is the little guy doing? i love the smile on that little guy's face, so heart-warming. >> he's doing good, great spirits, looking forward to going to disney world, healing a lot better, moving a lot better. he likes to play like normal 5-year-old little boys do. really hasn't limited his activity. he gets tired a little bit but, other than that, he's -- he's a normal -- normal 5-year-old. >> he's got a long road ahead of him, though, doesn't he, chris? >> yes. we've got more surgeries scheduled and it's going to be years of recovery. mentally and physically. psychologically there's going to be years to recover. he seems to be doing real well. >> that's g. i can hear the excitement in your voice. we going to have you go to a studio but you didn't want to leave his side that's why we were talking to you by phone. dad, we applaud oun that move.

how are you doing, as you've walked this road, a tough road but right now there's hope? >> i'm just -- i'm real happy that i can have him back. i'm real happy, you know, like the little things. we do a lot of little things, a lot of cuddling, you know, things that once he's not there, you know, you realize you miss. and it's the little things that mean the most. so, we do a lot of cuddling and i'm there for him and we're happy and we're trying to just get over this, get through this the best we can. >> so well put. the little things. i just -- john, i just applaud you, because, again, our heart breaks on so many of the stories we do and for what you did we can celebrate life today. let's show the video again what john and his brother and so many other volunteers, people were so sacrificing. what they were up against. let's listen again then we'll

hear from john. >> we need water! we need water! >> we need water! >> get back. there's a baby in there! >> john, as luke at that and we hear that again, has it all soaked -- really sunk in, a couple months later what you guys did? i'm sure your heart -- it's heart-warming, as well, to see little d.j. yesterday. >> oh, absolutely. you know, tuesday was probably one of the most joyous days of my life seeing d.j. walk out of that hospital and truly for me, it was that day that i was looking forward to since the incident. d.j., of course, had a long recovery and remarkable the progress that he did while he was in the hospital at children's hospital just did a wonderful job with him. and with plenty of support from his parents and it was just amazing to see him recover, you know, that fast. >> how are you guys doing, you and joel each had injuries.

how's the recovery for you guys? >> oh, you know what, we're doing just fine. i -- approximately one month after the incident, i went back to work and today, as a matter of fact, is joel's first day back since that incident. his wounds are all healed up now and looking good. >> good. are you guys going to be a part of d.j.'s life? i mean, because there's a bond there, no denying that. >> oh, absolutely. and, you know, on tuesday night, you know, i was able -- i had the privilege of being able to take d.j. out fishing out on my boat and truly, you know, to be a part of his life, yes, that bond was created at that incident but it was the fact that, you know, now that he's healing and acting like a normal 5-year-old, it's just, for me personally, you know, i want to be a part of that and make sure that he's going to have that a good recovery and if he needs any help, i'll thereabout to help him. >> chris, anything to say to john?

i'm sure you guys have developed a relationship, as well. >> yes. well, that's -- he's my brother-in-arms, he really is, him and joel both are, they're my guardian angels. d.j. considers them -- both them their uncles and their wives their aunts and that's how he addresses them, as aunt and uncle. they're a part of our family and are going to be a part of our family. >> well, in the same spirit of sacrifice as john and joel and others that helped little d.j. in that dire situation, we want to invite everybody and have the website right, helping david, that's dj helpingdavid.com if you want to help out. chris, i did get it right, the correct website. >> yes. >> forgive me for my emotions, i just again love this story. we do tough ones and this is such a good one. john, joel, we tip our hats you to and chris, tell little d.j. we are thinking about him. go packers, huh? >> yes, sir. right on. thank you. >> guys, thanks again. >> thank you. >> coming up, our heart is going to go the other way with this

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welcome back. help me out here. we just did a story about what's good with people so what is going wrong with some people? man 6'2", 215 accused of beating a mom in front of her 7-year-old daughter. police say this happened at a restaurant in georgia. mom says the guy nearly hit her little girl in the face when he swung open the door. she said, hey, be careful. next thing he started punching, kicking her, threw out racial slurs, as well. the fbi is investigating possible hate crime so. much to get to on this one. let's bring in our guests forensic psychiatrist welcome back dr. clay watson also with us former prosecutor thomas ken

et. let's listen to the victim in this, basically her own words, let's hear what happened. >> ex must, sir, watch out you almost hit my daughter in the face. he just came, he was like lighting a fire. he came back with me, you need to watch your f'ing daughter. he continued to punch me and kick on me. and he called me vulgar names. called me a racial slur. and then, you know, curse words. >> clay, what's -- i mean, this lady's half his size and the little 7-year-old daughter is watching. how does someone go to that place, and like that? >> you know, you can't really make sense of it at all. i'm not sure that there's much that mental health professionals would actually be able to say. what i can say is, it sounds like, you know, race issues are alive and well here in the united states. despite our hopes. one thing i would say that there have been some who have actually expressed that extreme racial

hate could be considered a mental illness in itself. but, you know, the jury is still out on that. there's no official diagnosis for it at this time. >> let's hit on that, what this guy could be facing. thomas, fbi looking -- i mean, he's throwing out the racial slurs as he's beating this woman. hate crime could be in the offing, right? >> it could be. i'm a veteran. it is absolutely sickening to think anybody could treat another human being this way, let alone, a soldier, out there protecting all of us. it's grotesque. whether, you know, the fbi needs to be involved at this point, or whether it needs to be classified as a hate crime or not, i'm not sure of. georgia does not have a state hate crime statute. that's where the feds might come in. >> you know -- we'll get more after the break. more coming up. 

a huge break in the murder of a yale grad student. a lab technician arrested and charged today in the death of annie le. raymond clark now sits behind bars, accused of strangling a bride-to-be. who is this guy? how well did he know annie le? so many questions. they're coming up. we want to hear from you as well. call in on that. new developments surrounding casey anthony. two new people set to be grilled in her first-degree murder case. her brother lee's girlfriend and a private investigator who worked for the anthony family. a little girl is dead. they may have inside information. what did they know? as always, we love hearing from you. call in, the number 1-877-tell-hln.

e-mail me, cnn.com/primenews. or text us at hlntv. just start your message with the word prime. it's your chance to be heard. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com this is hour number two of "prime news." at this very moment the man suspected of killing a yale grad student is behind bars. police in new haven, connecticut, arrested railed clark just this morning, and today he was charged in the death of annie le. police say he strangled this innocent bride-to-be, stuck her body in a wall where it was found on what should have been her wedding day. so many questions here. did he know her? if so, what kind of relationship did they have? we know this, they both worked at the same research building, same lab. so he had access to her. here's what police are saying. >> i think it's important to note this is not about urban crime. it's not about university crime. it's not about domestic crime, but an issue of workplace

violence, which has become a growing concern around the country. >> we'll take your calls on this, 1-877-tell-hln. joining me to talk about this, our expert panel, dr. clay watson back with us. forensic psychiatrist, dr. michelle dupre. and mary snow from our sister network cnn. and thomas kaplan yale daily news. mary, you've been covering this since the get-go. what is the latest into the investigation? anything new? >> reporter: well, as you mentioned, mike, raymond clark is behind bars tonight. this arrest comes after days after he was known to be the focus of the police investigation here in new haven. but it hasn't eased the shock in the yale community, that someone so close to them could be charged with this horrific murder. he was arrested early this morning. police had him under surveillance for several days. they've of course, as we all know, took dna samples from him the other day when he was taken into custody.

and police had been with him ever since then. the police chief here would not reveal more details about the arrest, because of a sealed arrest warrant, other than to say that forensics, interviews with over more than 150 people, and surveillance video led to this arrest today. we also know that the fbi's polygraph unit and behavioral analysis unit also were brought in. and as part of this investigation, with the scope of what's been going on in the past week here. >> okay. mary, i'll ask you this. i know the question is, how well did he know, if he knew annie le at all? we've heard of an e-mail exchange they might have had. what can you tell us about any kind of relationship they with, working or otherwise? >> reporter: there are reports out there that the new haven police chief didn't comment on, only to say that they've had no

romantic relationship, only this working relationship. he was a lab technician. his job included cleaning cages for laboratory mice. she, a ph.d. student, doing research in the lab. and in the building where she was killed is where he worked. they worked in the same building. beyond that, is what investigators have been piecing together. >> okay. let's get a call in real quick. brian's with us in ohio. brian, your question here? >> caller: yeah, i think maybe that they were like -- obviously they had contact with each other inside the workplace, you know. it just seems like to me when he got attracted to her, and it just seems like when she finally told him that she was getting married, that, you know, that it couldn't happen. and that's what pretty much made him go over the edge with it, i think. >> brian, thanks for the call. a lot of people have your same theory out there. let's get thomas kaplan in here. are you hearing how well raymond

clark new annie le? >> well, we don't really know more than what mary said. we know they worked together. but it's worth noting that raymond clark was also engaged to be married. >> and his fiancee works in the same lab. >> in the same laboratory. >> along with a brother and sister in-law. let's get dr. clay watson in on this. clay, there's that relationship question again. i know there's a lot of theories out there. what have you seen here? lay it out for us. >> well, we don't have enough information to say exactly, but in similar situations like this, where you see workplace violence, you may have some sort of intimate relationship. it doesn't sound like that's clear at this point. but it can also be a situation where it's sort of a pour struggle, someone has an argument and it goes to the extreme, especially if you come against the wrong person with a personality that does not care for having their control

challenged. and so we don't know really the circumstances of, you know, how this went down. but that's one possibility. but there are many others. >> exactly. okay. part of it's a relationship, another thing we want to look back at this guy, does he have a violent criminal history at all. mary snow, anything on that front? >> reporter: that is one thing that came out during his court appearance, that he did not have a police record. >> okay. no police record. last hour, and thomas, i'll ask you this, we had a reporter on that said that there was an incident back in high school where he had a former girlfriend, that -- the way the reporter tells it, that this was marcia chambers, the brandford eagle, talking about an incident where he didn't want to break up, forced her to have sex. she has, since this has come out about annie le, she's having a difficult time because it's bringing her back to the time when he was a high school senior back in 2004. >> right. >> what do you have on that? >> we've seen that report.

the brandford police have not commented on that, or released the record of that. the reason why that doesn't show up today is apparently the girlfriend at that time decided not to pursue the case. and not to press charges. >> okay. cheryl in ohio is with us. cherl, your comment or question? >> caller: yeah, hi, mike. great show. >> thanks. >> caller: i have a question. if she was strangled, where did the bloody clothes come from? and who did they belong to? >> that's a good question. a lot of people want to know that. death by strangulation, you wouldn't think there would be bloody clothes in all this. mary snow, i'm sure that's a question that's out there. is anybody talking on that front? >> reporter: that's an excellent question. and no, they're not talking about that. >> thomas, what about you? i think we fielded that one yesterday, thomas. >> yeah, it is a good question. i think one thing that's important to note is there is still -- we have not heard whether the blood on this item of clothing was ever linked to either mr. clark or annie le.

so it could theoretically be unrelated to the crime at hand. >> let's bring in our medical examiner, dr. michelle dupree. doctor, we know there was 250 pieces of evidence collected. what specifically do you think linked raymond clark to the annie le murder? >> i think that it was absolutely some sort of dna. back to the bloody clothes for a moment. probably there were defensive wounds. i don't think that she went down easily. and so i believe that there were also reports that she did have defensive wounds. and that there may have been scratches on his chest. the blood could have come from those areas. as well as dna. dna could come from epithelial under her fingernails. they could come from the bloody scratches. hair samples. anything that may have dna on it to tie him to that crime. >> let's take a quick break. when we come back, more on this. we'll take your questions. you guys have had some good ones. 1-877-tell-hln is the phone number. we also want to find out about raymond clark's fiancee. has she been questioned? he also has a sister and

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welcome back to "prime news" on hln. we're continuing our conversation. there has been an arrest in the murder of yale grad student annie le. her body found sunday, the day she was supposed to get married. found stuffed in a wall. she was strangled to death. raymond clark, the man you see there, he is charged with her murder. we have our experts standing by. we're taking your calls, 1-877-tell-hln is the number. one of the questions we have, who is this guy. what do we know about him? what are friends, family saying about him? here's what yale's president

saying, richard levin. let's listen to him, pick up the conversation. >> mr. clark has been a lab technician at yale since december 2004. his supervisor reports that nothing in the history of his employment here gave any indication that his involvement in such a crime might be possible. it is very disturbing to think that a university employee might have committed this terrible crime. as i reminded our community, we must not let this incident shatter our trust in one another. >> there you have obviously a surprised university president. let's go back to thomas kaplan, yale daily news. thomas, what are people who know him saying, neighbors, friends, anybody giving us that red flag and saying, yeah, he had it in him, or is everybody saying he's a great guy? >> we haven't really got much information about him. the folks we've talked to,

neighbors have said he was personable. he played baseball in high school. was popular in high school. certainly had no criminal record or anything like that. and his supervisor has told yale officials that, you know, he never presented any problem as an employee, and certainly did not seem like someone who would do something like this. >> let's pick up on that with dr. clay watson. clay? likable guy in high school. the one red flag, we already talked about, that he's showing that possessiveness, that jealous nature with a girlfriend back when he was in high school, right? >> right. apparently there was a history of some violence with his girlfriend after she wanted to break up, or there was some sort of relationship, disturbance there. and you can see that he had difficulty letting go of that relationship, and sometimes that shows a sign of problems with control. some issues with self-esteem, where deep down there's a sense of inadequacy. later on, those things can pop

up, when a person feels that their self-esteem is attacked again. and since he has a history, it sounds like violence under those situations, if this situation was something similar, it may have kindled something that, you know, happened with him in the past. >> so that seed that we see planted then, back in 2004, that could be the beginning that could lead to this. again, he's only charged, not guilty. but clay, is that what you're seeing here? at least the capability there, right? >> you're seeing the capability. >> let's go back to thomas. thomas, again, another fact that we're looking at, that he was living with his fiancee. what do we know about her? has she been talked to by authorities? i'm guessing so. >> we would assume so. we haven't heard anything official from police. but, you know, mr. clark has actually three family members, two family members plus his fiancee who work as fellow animal technicians at the same lab. we assume they've all been talked to.

>> a sister and brother-in-law? >> the sister, brother-in-law and fiancee. >> nothing from them either? >> no. >> this is from -- this is from his fiancee. i believe this is a face r facebook entry. who are you to judge the life i live? this is pre his arrest. who are you to judge the life i live? i know i'm not perfect, and i don't live to be. but before you start pointing fingers, make sure your hands are clean. thomas, any idea when that was written in relation to this crime and his arrest? >> we don't know. but that's certainly something that's been circulated and people are trying to decipher for clues. >> definitely intriguing. let's take a quick break. when we come back, more of your calls, comments, questions. i'm ed whitacre, the new chairman of general motors.

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ferreting out any clues as to why raymond clark would kill 24-year-old grad student annie le. looking into his past. interesting note here. let's go to thomas kaplan here. he was part of the asian awareness club in 2004. have you dug into that at all, as to what this club was about, why he was a member? >> yeah, that's a good question. we found that in his yearbook and something people are talking about today. it's unclear what motivated him to get involved in that. but it's something we are looking into. >> was it a club, mainly for asians? do we know anything about it at all? >> i think that's what one would suspect. but as far as why he was involved, it's speculation at this point. >> got you. here's another thing i'm sure people are talking about. safety on the school campus. police chief went out of his way, and we plated that sound bite for you at the top, saying this is not about a school issue, this is workplace violence. but i want to play this.

this is from anna williams, a yale university accountant, about whether or not she feels safe. let's listen. >> do you feel safe? >> you know, i feel much better that they did catch the person, and that that person is off the street. so it does make me feel a little better, definitely. >> clay, how do you calm the fears of people right now? something like this, something so heinous, right there, and this was broad daylight, the last we saw her, 10:00 in the morning. how do you calm people down here? >> first by letting folks know that these events are extremely rare. it is rare to have these sort of things happen, and relatively safe environment, academic institutions are very safe usually. and occasionally you have these extreme behaviors by individuals who act. and, you know, a measure of prevention, the good part of this is that a measure of prevention is always put into place by universities and by

other facilities once they realize there's a problem. they usually put safeguards in place to put things at ease. >> it's so ironic that annie le had written an article about staying safe on a school campus, being vigilant, aware of her surroundings, and here she is becoming a statistic. thomas, what is the mood on campus? >> on the one hand i think there's a sense of relief that an arrest has been made and what looks like a pretty solid arrest. at the same time, it is tough to sort of wrap your head around the fact that a yale employee, you know, a fellow member of our community, would do this to a yale student. that's obviously troubling. >> let's get a call in. kyra, your comment or question? >> caller: yes, love your show. just wanted to know if they released any information on clark's whereabouts during the fire alarm? at 12:00 noon that day. they determined le never left the building.

>> thomas, do we know anything more about who might have set off that fire alarm? annie le swiped herself into the building at 10:00 a.m. 12:40 this alarm went off and shouldn't have. >> that's a very interesting question. we don't know many details. police have kind of downplayed that and indicated they don't believe the fire alarm is not connected. we know the alarm was set off by steam from a laboratory. we don't know which laboratory. and we don't know whether mr. clark left the building at that time or what his situation was. when it went off. >> guys, we have to leave it there. still so many questions. we'll continue to follow it for you. thomas, dr. dupree, clay, we appreciate it. coming up, police lining up new people to question in the murder case involving little caylee anthony. here's what we know, casey anthony's brother, lee, his girlfriend could be on the hot seat as well as a private investigator who worked for the anthonys. people notice my love for animals. my smile.

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welcome back to "prime news" on hln. this is a good story. we're talking about heroism. look at this little guy. look at the smile on little d.j.'s face. he was badly burned. his van, riding in the family van, it erupts in flames. two off-duty firefighters risked their lives to save his. well, the update on this story is, this little guy's going to be able to go home now. that's what he said at the press conference, i'm ready to go home. we're going to talk with his father to find out how little d.j. is doing, and also one of the heroes in this case. and we're seeing the fruit of heroism. when we sacrifice for others, good things come. more on that coming up.

as always, we like taking your calls, 1-877-tell-hln is the number. we want to hear from you on this one. a story we have followed daily. a jury in louisville, kentucky, has acquitted a high school football coach. >> under instruction number one, reckless homicide, we, the jury, find the defendant, david jason stinson, not guilty under instruction number one. verdict under instruction number two. wanton endangerment in the first degree. we, the jury, find the defendant, david jason stinson, not guilty under instruction number two. >> again, max gilpin, sophomore lineman, 15-year-old collapsed at practice. this was a year ago august. the team was running a series of sprints, they call them gassers. heat index, 94 that day. max's body temperature, 107. some speculated could have been@ higher. he died three@@ days later. want to hear from you on this verdict, 1-877-tell-hln is the number. joining us to talk about it, former prosecutor, thomas.

and mike eiglarsh. tony konz, also with us. she's been on this since day one. toni, let me start with you. what was the reaction in the courtroom when the verdict was read? >> the reaction was very, very emotional. particularly from the stinson camp, his wife, monica, shook and was crying. now, the judge gave orders to begin with not to have any kind of emotional outburst in the courtroom. but lots of sobbing. jason stinson immediately turned and hugged his attorney brian butler. lots of emotion. >> any comment or emotion from max gilpin's family? >> the family on max's side was -- i don't know how to describe it, other than i think maybe shock. there was not really much reaction at all. they had straight faces as they were walking out. not much from them as well. >> okay. let's get our lawyers in on this one as we find out why this went this way. it did not take the jury str long to come to their

conclusion. thomas, i'll start with you. what did the prosecution do wrong? where did they drop the ball here? >> mike, i don't know if it's so much a matter of what they did wrong. it was a tough case, because on the one hand you wanted to see this coach sort of held accountable for what some people described as an exceptionally grueling practice. the word barbaric was thrown around. at the same time i think there was the concern among, you know, everybody who's either involved in this case or was speck tating on this case through the media, and so forth, that, you know, if the verdict would have come down guilty in this case, what sort of effect would that have had on high school sports, or amateur sports, youth sports, all around the country. would a guilty verdict in this case really kind of chill, you know, that enthusiasm, that adults have to get involved in children's sports and volunteer for little league and be high school coaches and so forth. >> that was a concern there. mark, as we look at this, you know, and i'll say this, if he was guilty, then so be it.

there maybe needs to be a chill factor. that's somewhat of a different argument. when i look at this case, i just don't know if you have the rules in place to say, coach, you violated x, y and z, and by that, you are guilty, right? it wasn't cut and dried. >> that's correct, mike. in every criminal case, the state has to have sufficient evidence. in this case, they had a tough burden. it was a willful and wanton disregard of human life. and most people, first of all, felt like this coach was a decent person. and second of all, that it didn't rise to that level. perhaps he was negligent, perhaps he should have done things differently. but to hold him accountable and send him to prison for ten years, i think the prosecution just didn't have it. >> let's go back to toni konz. toni's doing a great job reporting on this. toni, has coach stinson, has he ever talked about any regrets of how he ran practice that day? we expect an interview from him anytime soon? >> he did not give an interview today to the media. there was lots of media,

national media, local media. i've never seen so much media in my life outside the courtroom today. he came out, walked past the media, did not talk to anybody. now, before the verdict, when we heard there was a verdict, they had a huge prayer circle. that was the first time i had heard jason stinson say anything throughout this trial. >> mike -- >> go ahead, toni, finish up. toni, he's never expressed a regret of how that practice was run that day, is that correct? >> not that i can tell, no. >> the reason i ask that, i hope at some point we'll get that open. i'd love to talk with the coach. open invitation to talk with the coach. real quick, mark. let me finish, making a point. just that he will have an opportunity -- we can learn from this. my end goal in this, i don't think they had it to find a guilty verdict. i hope we can learn as parents, as football fans, what we can expect of our kids, responsibility from our coaches and wisdom from them as they train our kids. mark, go ahead.

>> in his defense, his attorney would have told him after the time of acquittal without ten years hanging over your head, to tell the public how sorry you are, how you did things differently. i'm sure we will hear that later. he couldn't have done that because it would have affected the outcome. >> there's also a civil trial as well. >> and that's his -- max gilpin's parents filing against not the school, but coach stinson specifically, toni? >> that's correct. him and several other coaches, and the principal at the school. that's going to go to trial in february of next year. >> real quick, thomas. how do you see the civil going? do you think easier burden of proof, right? >> much easier burden of proof. and i think a lot of people thought that that's what this was. that was a civil -- as high as the supreme court has said, that school districts, coaches, they act in in place of the parents. they have a duty in this case to guard after these children. one thing that is absolutely inexcusable in this case and we

brought this up last time is, not giving these children water. one thing coaches learn, anyone should know at this point is that whenever you're doing any sort of strenuous training, water, water, water. you have to hydrate the children, hydrate the athletes, no matter how hard you want to run them. >> safety first. hopefully that's what we'll learn out of this. do we want hard work on a football field? certainly we do. that's part of the lessons our kids learn playing football. but again, we want to do it responsibly. toni, you've done a great job. thomas, mark, we appreciate your insights as well. we do a lot of stories that break our hearts. this will do your heart good. a young guy, there he is, little d.j., rescued from a burning van because two men risked their lives. they laid down their lives, sacrificed so this little guy could live. we'll talk would to one of the heroes. we'll talk to d.j.'s dad. if you want to call in, please do, 1-877-tell-hln.

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welcome back. thanks to two heroic off-duty firefighters, risking their lives, a 5-year-old boy is alive today. he just left the hospital. complete strangers pulled little d.j. harper out of a burning suv. this was two months ago in milwaukee. here was the scene. >> we need water! get back! there's a baby in there! >> so many people rushed to the aid of that little boy. look how cute he is. the little bandaged face. don't you just want to give him a hug? put a packer shirt on him. they have the packer balloons in milwaukee. a great story. this little guy is now out of the hospital, going home, which is a ronald mcdonald house. it's because of the heroics, instead of mourning in grief right now there's joy for the little guy. i just love this story. joining us now to talk about it, d.j.'s father, chris harper, and also with us, one of the heroes, there he is, john rechlitz.

he and his brother joel went into the burning van and risked their lives. first off, chris harper, d.j.'s dad, how is the little guy doing? i love the smile on his face. so heart warming. >> he's doing real good right now. he's got great spirits right now. he's looking forward to going to disney world. he's healing a lot better. he's moving around a lot better. he likes to play like normal 5-year-old little boys do. it really hasn't limited his activity. he gets tired a little bit, but other than that, he's a normal 5-year-old. >> he's got a long road ahead of him, though, doesn't he, chris? >> yes. we've got more surgeries scheduled. it's going to be years of recovery. mentally and physically. psychologically there's going to be years to recover. he seems to be doing real well, though. >> i can hear the excitement in your voice. we were going to have you go to a studio, but you didn't want to leave his side. that's why we're talking to you

by phone. dad, we applaud you on that move. how are you doing, as you've walked this road? and it's a tough road, but right now there's hope. >> i'm real happy that i can have him back. i'm real happy. you know, like the little things. we do a lot of little things, a lot of cuddling. just the things that once he's not there, you know, that you realize you missed. and it's the little things that mean the most. we do a lot of cuddling. and i'm there for him. and we're happy and trying to just get over this. get through this the best we can. >> so well put. the little things. it's just -- john, i just applaud you. because, again, our heart breaks on so many of the stories we do. and for what you did, we can celebrate life today. let's show the video again, what john and his brother and so many other volunteers, people were so sacrificing. what they were up against.

let's listen again and we'll hear from john. >> we need water! >> we need water! get back! there's a baby in there! >> john, as you look at that, and we hear that, again, has it all soaked -- really sunk in, a couple of months later, what you guys did? i'm sure your heart, it's heart warming for you as well to see little d.j. yesterday. >> absolutely. tuesday was probably one of the most joyous days of my life, seeing d.j. walk out of that hospital. truly, for me, it was that day that i was looking forward to since the incident. d.j., of course, had a long recovery. and remarkable, the progress that he did while he was in the hospital, children's hospital just did a wonderful job with him. and with plenty of support from his parents. and it was just amazing to see him recover, you know, that fast.

>> how are you guys doing? you and joel each had injuries. how is the recovery for you guys? >> oh, you know what, we're doing just fine. approximately one month after the incident i went back to work. and today, as a matter of fact, is joel's first day back since that incident. his wounds are all healed up now. and looking good. >> good. are you guys going to be a part of d.j.'s life? i mean, because there's a bond there, no denying that. >> oh, absolutely. and on tuesday night, you know, i was able -- i had the privilege of being able to take d.j. out fishing out on my boat. and truly, you know, to be a part of his life, yes, that bond was created at that incident. but it was the fact that, you know, now that he's healing, and acting like a normal 5-year-old, it's just -- for me, personally, you know, i want to be a part of that, and make sure that he's going to have a good recovery, and if he needs any help, i'll be there to help him.

>> chris, anything to say to john? i'm sure you guys have developed a relationship as well. >> yes. well, that's -- he's my brother in arms, he really is, him and joel are. they're my guardian angels. d.j. considers both them his uncles. and their wives as aunts. he refers to them as aunts and uncles. they're going to be a part of our family. >> in the same spirit of sacrifice, as john and joel and others that helped little d.j. in that dire situation, we want to invite everybody, i want to make sure i have the website right, helpingdavid.com. chris, did i get it right, the correct website? >> yes. >> and again, forgive me for my emotions. i just love this story. we do some tough ones, and this is such a good one. john, joel, again, we tip our hats to you, and chris,