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base. it took off and landed in palm adorea. the honduran president was held in the base for some time, and then they decided to take him to costa ricka. the american soldiers based in honduras knew about the coup d'etat. hence the contradiction. we wand -- wonder sometimes are there two obamas? there's the obama who spoke here yesterday. and does he have a double? the one who supports or allows his military to support the coup in honduras? i just would like to put out this question and we should think about it. .
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the world is calling for that obama. so, what is the backdrop of this? this is what we are talking about. this is the revolution in the south. this is not the kind of revolution where you have the columns of soldiers and the heroes, people in the high, bolivia and mountains, where you had mr. guevara. it is not that kind of revolution. this is a different revolution. this is not something that springs up in the mountains, with the guerrillas, and the guerrillas in the city.
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this is a peaceful revolution and it wants to remain a peaceful revolution. this is a democratic revolution. a deeply democratic revolution. do not fear democracy. i am paraphrasing. noam chomsky. i read this book when i was visiting the king of spain in madrid. he is going to the ibero- american summit. i said i will go, if you do not tell me to be quiet. we are actually good friends. i went there, to a good bookstore that i recommended. the book is called, the fear of democracy. this is by no chomsky --
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chomsky. the people -- they are afraid of the abraham lincoln democracy. democracy is the government by the people, of the people, for the people. this is not the government of the elite, and then when the people step out into the streets, they are shot down. that is what happened in honduras, and venezuela. and in the dominican republic. why were the people of latin america at and the caribbean is not allowed to build their own future? they were not. this is our century, and we are
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going to build our own pathway and nobody -- nobody can stop us. imperialism must be over. it has to stop. i was asking lula, what would happen in latin america, today? what if the governments of latin america, what would this be like, if latin america -- if the americans had not imposed their model, with firepower and blood, if they had not turned out the lights of the dawn. when i was born in 1954, fidel
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castro was in jail. guatemala was being invaded. president guzman and the bay of pigs. that was a failure. and then, revolutionary cuba. it was dignified, but blockaded. obama, lift the blockade in be consistent. do what you are talking about, or are there two of you. obama said yesterday, yesterday this is little left spoke before. obama said no political system can be imposed on the people. the sovereignty of each people
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must be respected. what are you waiting for? lift the savage blockade. the embargo on cuba. this anyone have a doubt about this? does anyone think that this is a figure of speech? no. any business that provides food to cuba is persecuted. it started with venezuela. castro recently mentioned that. a well-known company that makes and sells medical equipment -- this year and last year, was not able to meet their obligations to cuba or to us in venezuela. they did not provide the fair
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parts for the complex medical machinery. we have installed this across our country to provide basic health care throughout the country to the indigenous people, we have a lot of cuban doctors helping us. free or inexpensive. the company is phillips. we have tried to find solutions discreetly, but the company has refused to send the spare parts for the high-technology, for all of this. do we have obama number one, obama #2? who am i talking to? i would like to believe in the
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obama i listen to yesterday. but these things keep happening, and this affects the lives of millions of human beings. why? whose orders are these on? why does the united states continued to do this. fear of democracy? that is what happened in honduras. the fear of the dawn -- the mechanism of solidarity and integration. this is coming up all over. the government's and the people of nicaragua and honduras, venezuela, cuba and ecuador. st. vincent, the grenadines. we are attacked, they are
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trying to stop us that they will not be able to. this is all part of the geopolitical historic and great revolution in latin america. along the same lines, i would like to comment on the seven military bases that will be installed in colombia. he spoke about the four pillars, that is fine. we will take his word. non-proliferation. nuclear non proliferation. this is fine. condi destroy the nuclear weapons that you have. -- kindly destroy the nuclear weapons that you have.
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the first was non-proliferation. the second was the promotion of peace. obama, let's find peace in colombia. in our beloved columbia. there is a civil war in colombia. some people will not recognize this. this is a very old and historical conflict, in columbia. but the united states will have to face this squarely. we should all extend our hands, to columbia to help them out of this tragic standoff. within respect to their sovereignty. i mention this to obama, at the american summit. let's find peace in colombia.
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we were able to find peace in central america. in guatemala, i was there and i had a war in guatemala. thousands of dead, they disappeared. salvador and nicaragua, and now they are back with the government 20 years later. the people brought them back. >> what is good for the goose is good for the gander. with the people of salvador and the president -- he was brought to power in the sister republic. i know that the president was
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here. if they are able to achieve peace in central america, why not in colombia? this is one of the things -- i feel like i am and colombian. this is our columbia. is president obama hoping to find peace with seven military bases in colombia? these are a threat. military bases are a threat to the peace in colombia. and in south america. we are right to send each of them in our own way, how concerned we are about the
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installations of these bases. and i would like to announce this, and i would like to talk about this and i would like obama to think about -- let's promote peace. we can have a peace commission, we will cooperate, all of us who want to have peace. [speaking spanish] there is another topic that fidel castro speaks about in his thoughts on the 21st of september, and this has to do with climate change. some people think that this is metaphysics. some intellectuals. we are destroying our planet.
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as a venezuelan has said, this rocket that we are travelling in, because the planet is like a rocket, we are destroying this. he talks about a species in danger of extinction. and i will read this. in the international climate change -- the environmental conference that was held in 1992. i remember, i was in jail at the time. i said, one species is in danger of extinction. this is humankind. when i said this, people
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applauded me, the heads of state including the united states. the president at the time, who was a less dark bush and his son. those of you who think that there are several centuries to deal with this problem, i did not think that there was much time. 60 years or 80 years. but the danger is imminent. we already experienced the effect. the average temperature has grown 0.8 degrees, since 1980. this is scientific data according to the national space institute. zero. a decrease in 30 years. i am still quoting fidel. the last few decades were the warmest in centuries. the temperatures in alaska,
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western canada, and russia, have risen at twice the usual rate. the ice in the arctic is disappearing. and there may come the first summer entirely free of ice in two decades. you can see that the grape pieces of ice, are melting. but also the south, all the way to the antarctic. where the ice is melting -- and the concentration of co2 is higher than the natural range over the last 150,000 years. we are destroying the planet.
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we must be aware of this, and as lula said yesterday, there is no political will for climate change. nobody is wanting to make a decision. please do something. do this. but now it is time to act, not just worries. we have to save the planet. let's hope that at the copenhagen summit, there will be truly important and significant decisions, and we are willing to do this. everyone must contribute to the extent of their ability. on what is the basic cause of this pollution. this is over consumption. we are exhausting our fossil fuels. fossil fuels that we
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accumulated over millions of years are being burned, in one century. and this has to do with the economy. i should not read this -- i will refer to this and i invite you to analyze this. [speaking spanish] if you look at this, just this, there are 12 recommendations of this commission. let us assess them. i think that although we do not question the capitalist model, they do a dress the substance. we socialists do question the model, l.s.i. consensus solutions for the medium term, and then we will deal with the long term.
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the report says, look at the incumbent and the -- and come -- income and the solutions, the heritage, more importance for the redistribution inf income. -- of income. indications of noncommercial activities like child care. these only appear in national accounts they are carried out by a person. we know this has to do with accounting.
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pnb rises with traffic, but the anxiety of the people also rises. the passengers, their anxiety and discomfort rises. why is there more pollution? because there is more oil. all goes together. the capitalis systemt as indicators that are destructive. the report contributes useful contributions. we need indicators of climate change. this is very timely report.
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governments in particular, in the most developed countries, i think they are meeting in pittsburgh today. these are the presidents of the g-20. tomorrow i will ask lula and christina how the meeting went. they are coming to margarita for the ibero-american summit. let's talk about indicators. as obama said yesterday, his fourth pillar -- that is called socialism. obama, come over to the socialist side. we will build a real economy as
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a service of the individual. you cannot do this with capitalism. it is impossible. capitalism is just for a small number. it excludes the majority. destroys the environment. it eats up the life. that is capitalism. i think have spoken for 10 minutes now. let me finish with lula, something lula said. yesterday lula seaid there is no political will. i have already commented on that. i will add, because i know lula, and i know exactly what he said. he is calling upon all of us to increase our political will.
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unlike other governments that do not want change, despite the terrible crisis in which we are living, we in southern america have lots of political will. here i am speaking just from venezuelas point of view, but it is also common in south america and latin america. we have a lot of political will. this is by a hungarian professor in london. beyond capital is the title of the book. this is one of the masterworks of the 20th-century. it is a complete restructuring
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toward a new historic paradigm." for so long we have been hearing about the new world order, but what we actually have is this moribund, dying world order. what we need is a new political paradigm, a new world. gaddafi said yesterday we need to institutions, a new economy, a new model of society, something really new. a new world. now listed as day, and he finished that 10 -- now lula said yesterday, we have to be the midwives of history. i agree. i would add i wouldlula said.
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has the work already started? yes. the bird is not in the future. the birth has already started. let us do whatlula said, let us help the birth of the new history. let us help but see the light. those are the those who are trying to bury it, let them not prevail. let us help this new time, this new world, this multipolar new, free world, this economy, in the service of people, all people, not just minorities. i am a christian. christ said this one day when he said my kingdom is not of this world. it is a future kingdom, a world of love among ourselves where we can live eternally as brothers and sisters. last saturday and sunday in
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havana, there was a tremendous concert for peace. all kinds of singers were there, and they sang for the whole world. some people here in miami went crazy and tried to destroy cities just because he had gone to sing in cuba. how crazy can you get? try -- they tried to destroy cd's. i am sure he sang a song that said this era is giving birth to a heart, and he finishes like this. let's be a tiny bit better and a
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tiny bit less selfish. thank you, goodbye. >> this coming tuesday, the senate finance committee will continue work on health care legislation. we talked with a capitol hill reporter about that. >> alex lane joins us. as both houses of congress continue to work on their health care plans, the issue of the public option of coming up on both sides of the capital. broadly, tell us what aoption would do. >> it seems like they have been arguing about this for a year. it is a government run insurance plan that would compete with private insurers to offer coverage to basically middle- class americans under age 65. >> but the chairman's mark the not propose a public option. what does he propose instead?
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>> he has proposed a system of what he calls health cooperatives across the country that would compete with private insurers. a lot of liberals do not think competitor. that would be owned and controlled by the people they cover, rather than the government. the government would set them up and organize them. >> the finance committee will see a number of amendments coming up next week when they are reduced when they are in session resumes. what is most prominent among those amendments being proposed? >> senators john rockefeller and chuck schumer will offer at least one or two public plan amendments next tuesday. that will probably fail in committee. the point is to get the idea out there. rockefeller and schumer say they do not really expect to succeed, but they want to get the debate started in committee, and when they move to the floor, they will have a better shot.
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>> our house leader is going to shape a bill that has a public auction in when they will meet opposition from the blue dog democrats? >> they were talking about that today. the point of dispute is how the public plan would be structured and what rate to pay for providers. you can create a public plan that pays medicare rates are one that pays rates that are negotiated. a lot of more conservative democrats want negotiated rates. the liberals want medicare rates because you get stronger cross savings there. there is an $80 million difference there over 10 years. >> back to the finance committee, looking into next week, do you think any of these public option amendments will
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survive? >> no, they are all going to fail. senator baucus and senator conrad can simply join with the 10 republicans on the committee and kill each of the public plan amendments might at least a 12- 11 vote. the amendments will not survive, but we will see them again. >> the senate finance committee resumes work on their markup of health legislation this coming tuesday. live coverage starts at 9:30 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> president obama was at last night's black caucus conference
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>> they did not want me to be on the right. [laughter] >> this is cbc. [applause] >> to all the outstanding guests here tonight, to the chair of the congressional black caucus, barbara lee, please give her a big round of applause. [applause] to her outstanding foundation chair, please give them a round of applause. the house majority whip, george cliburn is in the house.
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chairman of thedcc is in the house. and my great friend and the chair of the dnc, tim kane, please give him a big round of applause, the governor of the commonwealth of virginia. [applause] i want to begin by congratulating all of the recipients of the phoenix award for outstanding contributions to american life. i have to single out one of tonight's honorees for whom i can personally vouch, our ambassador to the united nations, susan rice. [applause] susan is doing a fantastic job as ambassador, especially in
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this past week when we were at the united nations. we are all lucky to have her representing us there. please give her a big round of applause. [applause] i look out at all of you tonight, on members of congress, on state and local officials, leaders of all kinds, and i am reminded of the extraordinary tax of public service from african-americans today. i am reminded of the difference that each of you is making at every level of government. the neighborhoods of our small towns, the bustling streets of our big cities, but i am also reminded that it was not always this way. i am reminded of a time long before the cbc was born, when
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just a lone african-american was serving in the united states congress, north carolinian by birth, a child of slaves. he was a member of the first generation of african-americans elected to congress in the aftermath of appomattox. in the 1800's, when desegregation of the supreme court hammered down a separate but equal. strange fruit was growing on the poplar trees. once again, neither the house nor the senate would be occupied by a single african- american member.
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in the end of an aspiring farewell address, the gentleman from north carolina said, "this, mr. chairman, is perhaps the negro's temporary farewell to the american congress. but let me say that he will rise up some day and come again." [applause] members of the cbc, all of the gathered here tonight, this is a fulfillment of that promise. while george henry white may not have seen the exact details of montgomery and the south, while he might not have seen the precise outlines of the civil rights act and the voting rights act and the struggles to come, he knew that someday, african-americans would sit in
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our city halls and statehouses. he knew that, someday, the halls of congress would be walked by representatives and senators of every creed and color. [applause] more than a century has passed since congressman white left congress. in that time, we have passed tests and trials as a people and nation. we are not the first generation to be tested, but tested we have been.
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most recently, we were tested by a new economic crisis unlike any we have seen since the great depression. i have to say that some folks seem to have forgotten how bad things were when i took office. [applause] they seem to be exercising some selective memory. let's just take a stroll down memory lane. [applause] our economy was shedding 700,000 jobs every single month, more than the entire population of baltimore losing work every month. credit had dried out. everything from college to cars
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were nearly impossible to come by. our entire financial system was on the brink of collapse. you remember that. that is why we acted boldly. that is why we acted swiftly to put in place a recovery act was passed with the help of members of congress that are here tonight and as a consequence of those early actions, we are cutting taxes for 95% of working families. and now for the rich folks, but for ordinary folks, putting some money in their pockets. we are extending unemployment insurance for 12 million americans to help them weather this economic storm.
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we are making cobra 65% cheaper so americans do not lose their health care coverage while they are looking for work. [applause] we are saving the jobs of teachers, police officers that americans rely on across the nation and we're putting americans to work, rebuilding our crumbling roads and bridges and schools and waterways with the largest investment in our infrastructure since the interstate highway system was built in the 1950's. because of the action we have taken so far, we have stopped the bleeding in our economy. the next time some of these folks come up and asking what the recovery act has done, you tell them it has prevented us from going into a much worse place. that much we know. that has been confirmed. but we also know that we have a long way to go. the progress we have made has
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been uneven. this recession has hit communities of color with particular ferocity. today, nearly one in seven african americans are out of work. more than two out of tin are living in poverty. and this has become much worse. we all know that these problems have been there for a long time. communities were struggling to catch up long before this economic storm came ashore. one study that looked at trends in this company over the past few decades found that while roughly seven out of every 10 middle-class white children in that surpassing their parents' income, roughly seven out of every 10 black children do not. think about that.
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for the majority of some americans, of for mobility, for the majority of mothers, stagnation or even downward mobility. that was before the economic crisis. that is unacceptable in the united states of america. [applause] bringing hope and opportunity to places where they are in short supply is not easy. it will take a focused and sustained effort to eradicate the structual access to our communities.
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we need a comprehensive approach to anti-poverty to give people the tools to pull themselves up. that is why i have built an office of government affairs. that is why my administration, under the leadership of attorney general eric holder is serious about enforcing civil rights laws and tearing down barriers to equal opportunity. for all the barriers still standing in 2009, few are more unjust, few are more entrenched, few are more inhumane than the barriers to a healthy life and a good education. barriers that can and must and shall be overcome.
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for the sake of every american living today, and those yet to be born, we must bring together a better health care system in this country not in 10 years, not in five years, not in one year, [applause] this year. [applause] there are voices that say we are moving too fast. they're telling us to slow down. they are telling us to wait. there is a woman who discovered a lump in her breast in june and she was told it would be six months before she was eligible for health insurance that would cover the cost to remove it.
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we are telling her to wait? how are we supposed to tell a man to wait? he was left to frantically searched for another option or face $10,000 $10,000 in out-of- pocket costs. we have been waiting for health reform since the days of teddy roosevelt. we have been waiting since the days of harry truman. we have been waiting since johnson and nixon and clinton. we cannot wait any longer. there comes a time when the cup of endurance runs over. there comes a time to remember the fierce urgency of right now. now is the time to reform health care in the united states of america. now is the time to offered stability and security to
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americans who have insurance. now is the time to make it affordable for those who do not have health insurance. now is the time. that is the kind of reform that we need. now is the time. that is why so many members of congress tonight and across the country are working so hard to produce. many of you are probably familiar with our plan. but i just want to go over some things so you know what to tell your friends and neighbors and folks in the community that asked about this because they may be seeing some misinformation. i was up at the g-20 and some of you saw the big fines and all the world leaders coming in. michelle and i were shaking hands with them. one of the leaders comes up to
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me and we take a picture and we go behind and he says, tell me how this helps the day. they're putting a hitler moustache on you. that does not make sense to me. explain that to me. [applause] he did not understand. let me just clarify. if you already have health insurance, under the plan we have developed, you will not, i repeat, you will not have to change your coverage or your doctor. we are not requiring those changes in this legislation. what we will do is make insurance were better for everybody. it will be against the law for
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insurance companies to deny you coverage because of a pre- existing condition. [applause] it will be against the law for insurance companies to grab your coverage when you get sick or water it down when you need it the most. they will not be able to place some arbitrary cap on how much coverage you can receive in a given year or a lifetime. we will place a limit on how much you can be charged for out-of-pocket expenses.
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they called fdr all kinds of things that we cannot repeat here today. they said the same thing about lyndon johnson when we tried to pass medicare. they are saying the same things now trying to use the same tactics. but we are going to get this done this year thanks to work all across the country. [applause] ted thanks to you at the grassroot level that will stand up and insist that we cannot afford to wait any longer. [applause] the key to progress for all americans is a well educated mind. [applause] we know that the african- american community will fall behind the united states.
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and the united states will fall behind in the world unless we do a far better job than we have been doing of educated our sons and daughters and last week -- unless we close the achievement gap, unless we reach all of the students who are dropping out of school and giving up on their future. today, almost one-third of students drop out of high school. one-third. a disproportionate amount of them are african-american or hispanic. that is a loss for all americans not just those communities. it affects the work force of the 21st century when a good education is a prerequisite for success. we need the talent, energy, and contribution of all of our children, not just some.
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we need to prepare every child in america to compete any work in the world. there are a number of things that government can do. we can increase pell grants and perkins loans and simplify financial aid forms. we can reward teachers who are doing a good job. [applause] it can improve quality in early learning initiatives. it can rebuild crumbling schools. it can offer all of march children a complete and competitive education from cradle to classroom to college to career. that is what government can do and must do. that is what we have begun to do here in washington. i have said it before, and i
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know i might sound like a broken record. i will say it again. government alone cannot get u children to go to bed at a reasonable hour and put away the play station. government cannot read a book to your child at night. government cannot help them with their homework. government cannot make sure they leave for school on time. these are things that only a mother can do and a father can do. these are things that a parent can do. [applause] eacwe need to accept our responsibilities. parents and community leaders, we need to be good role models and encourage excellence in our children, every last one of them. we need to let them know that there is no excuse for doing your best all of the day, in
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order to achieve your dreams. i do not want all of our students to aspire to be ballers and rappers. i want them to aspire to be students and teachers and doctors and members of congress and supreme court justices. i want them aspiring to be the president of the united states of america. [applause] i want them to have their sights set high. [applause] no excuses. no excuses for mediocrity. if they come home with april "b" to not help -- with a "b", do not tell them it is great. tell them to work harder and get
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an "a" and set their sights high. [applause] a world-class education, affordable quality health insurance, jobs, opportunity, all of us must accept responsibility for ourselves, our children, our country. that is how we make life better for the african-american community and for the larger american community. that is how we will build a new foundation for our economy that leaves lasting shared prosperity. that is how we will take up the cause of freedom and justice and equality in our time just as earlier generations of americans took exception theirs. remember what it was like for george henry bright in the early days as he was bidding farewell to the house of representatives.
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remember the talks and the attacks braved by him, braved by shirley chisholm. remember all they did become also many others did to make it possible for us to be here tonight. to make it possible for you to be here tonight. to make it possible for me to be here tonight, because i know that if we had the same sense of unity and possibility, the same determination, the same sense of purpose, then we will not only help america have a healthier lives for our people, it will be said of us as it was said about our forbearers that the need was great, the moment was hard, the
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odds seemed to be against us, we did our part to help our youth. thank you. god bless you and god bless the united states of america. [applause] ♪ [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2009] ♪ [stevie wonder singing " sig ned, sealed, and delivered." ♪
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